Cal Kestis Vs Starkiller | WHO WOULD WIN?
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Star Wars Jedi: Survivor is an action-adventure game developed by Respawn Entertainment and published by Electronic Arts. A sequel to Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (2019), it was released on PlayStation 5, Windows, and Xbox Series X/S on April 28, 2023.[1] The game received generally favorable reviews.
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor maintains many of the gameplay mechanics from its predecessor with new elements. In lightsaber combat, there are five "fully realized" stances in the game that Cal Kestis can use. The single blade and double blade lightsaber stances return from Fallen Order, while the special dual-wield single blade attack is expanded into its own fully playable lightsaber stance; the dual-wield stance was intended to be a fully playable stance in Fallen Order but Respawn did not have enough time to finish it before release so it was changed to be a special attack. A new, heavier Kylo Ren-style[clarification needed] crossguard lightsaber stance is added that requires more confidence[clarification needed] to use due to longer timing windows in blocking and parrying enemy attacks. The second new stance is the blaster stance which allows the player to use a lightsaber and blaster combo for both close and ranged attacks. These different stances are designed to be used to combat specific types of enemies which Asmussen says will make the player "figure out what the best weapon of choice is".A new Force stasis ability, similar to the one used by Kylo Ren in The Force Awakens, allows the player to freeze enemies and blaster bolts in mid-air.Level designThe level design of Jedi: Survivor features larger, more expansive maps populated with more non-player characters. The design of planets like Koboh have been made more open and expansive compared to Fallen Order. Lead level designer Martin Badowsky said that Respawn wanted Koboh to feature a dense central area with more open outskirts areas as the player explores outwards. In addition, the Mantis landing pads have been moved to a more central location on planets to provide easier access to the various regions on the planet.The planet Koboh has been described as a "home away from home" that the player will revisit throughout the game, and with each revisit, new pathways will open up. Design director Jeff Magers said that "By exploring the worlds, players will both make Cal more their own through customization" and many of the optional areas contain skills, upgrades and perks that will make Cal "more powerful and equipped to take on the challenges ahead". By comparison, revisiting planets like Bogano in Fallen Order was done primarily in service of progressing the plot rather than for encouraging exploration. Exploration is made easier in Survivor with the addition of fast travel at meditation points where the player can be quickly transported to another meditation point on the planet that they have already discovered. However, Respawn wanted to ensure that using fast travel was not necessary to ordinarily traverse the environment or to complete the story. Scattered throughout planets are Jedi Chamber Trials for the player to discover which have been compared to the Shrines from The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Jedi Chamber Trials feature puzzles and challenges for the player to complete which provide rewards such as skill points for the player to upgrade their skill tree.
Player cosmetic customization options have been greatly expanded in Survivor over the limited ponchos options in Fallen Order. Survivor allows the player to customize Cal's appearance with entire changes to his outfits. Cal's hairstyles and facial hair are also customizable cosmetic items.
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed is an action-adventure game developed by LucasArts and part of The Force Unleashed multimedia project. It was initially developed for the PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Wii, and Xbox 360 consoles and on iOS, second-generation N-Gage, Nintendo DS, PlayStation Portable, and Java-equipped mobile phone handhelds. The game was released in North America on September 16, 2008, in Australia and Southeast Asia on September 17, and in Europe on September 19. LucasArts released downloadable content for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 consoles. An Ultimate Sith Edition of the game, containing both new and previously released downloadable content, was released in November 2009,[3] and later ported to the macOS and Microsoft Windows. An enhanced remaster of the Wii version, developed by Aspyr, was released on Nintendo Switch on April 20, 2022.The project bridges the first two Star Wars trilogies, acting as an origin story for both the united Rebel Alliance and the Galactic Civil War depicted in the original trilogy.
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The only thing asked when matching up Starkiller vs. Cal is "how long can Cal live before he finds a way to escape?" Because that's the only outcome aside from his death.
Cal kestis choices:
1) RUN CAL RUN ! 🏃♂️ (hold long enough to find a way to scape this BEAST)
2) Get *Atomized* 💣💥 (ESCAPE TOTALLY PAINFUL DEATH)
If he can Starkiller is stronger than Vader who he can’t do anything to.
@@christopherbull7856he’s stronger but darth vader is definitely better when starkiller took down the ship it put a toll on his body and almost passed out
More like, is Starkiller gonna need a clone to help him fight Cal?
@@gabrielliu152 Nope, he won't. Just the feats from his first game puts him way above Cal.
Putting Cal in Galen's crosshairs is a cruel move.
You know, be sick if cal n galen links up together to stop the empire or cal learn some ability from galen
“Master Marek there’s too many of them what do we do?”
@@user-nu2sl9yn1c "clown on them with force lightning"
Never underestimate Cal. Dagan Gera made that mistake.
@@rumblefish9He is still stronger he was messing around with cal.
I love Cal, he's now in my top 3 Jedi, which is why after this fight I'll be there to help plan the funeral.
I agree
LMAOOOO
No casket needed lmao
Got me dead wich this one
Not once in either Fallen Order or Jedi Survivor have I ever felt as POWERFUL as I did when playing as Starkiller.
Well they are totally different games and genres,not to mention villains and antiheroes are always depicted to look stronger and more intimidating in media
@@casualcookin3893 yeah and one pulled down a star destroyer and the other didn't
@@kplayzxp2376 Its exactly the same thing i said but more specific
Honestly the force is potrayed more in cannon in Jedi fallen order the force unleashed was too over the top love it still
@@Quet723no it wasn’t , the force has unlimited potential
Let’s also not forget that Cal is very much the kind of Jedi Starkiller was trained to take down.
Didn't think about that but that is also very true. I don't think it really matters that much with the difference in raw power and skill, but another nail in the coffin I suppose.
True but it’s the power that does it technically that training is in the inquisitors too and they can’t do it it’s just he has the power to act on the training
@@MrJoester19 Skill is also a major factor. The Inquisitors I doubt were as thoroughly trained as Starkiller. Inquisitors we’re deployed in numbers whereas Starkiller was sent alone to take out his targets.
@@codyconnor6981 oh yeah they were a group not one person of course they didn’t get trained as thoroughly and they all hated each other including Vader which is kind of part of the training but still I’m just saying the core concepts of their Jedi takedown skills pretty similar and both very effective one just way more than the lol you can’t effectively do that skill if you’re not more powerful than the Jedi you’re hunting was my point
Yep completely disregard his natural strength of force his skill in using lightsabers and how honed his use of it is it's not hard to see cal would be lucky to last a few minutes against the relentless force starkiller is
Starkiller: *pulls down star destroyer*
Cal: understandable, have a nice day
Exactly no one is topping that anytime soon. He actually defeated Darth Vader twice in his games. He only defeated the emperor because the emperor lost his lightsaber. If he kept it would of been different
@@christopherbull7856 Nah, Palps wouldn't be able to keep up with Starkiller even with a lightsaber.
Actually he doesn’t stand a chance since the emperor easily overpowered. This is shown in the first game if u kill Darth Vader.
@@christopherbull7856 Yes, that's called a sneak attack, if Starkiller was fighting Sidious with zero distractions, he would win, lightsaber or not.
Except the star destroyer was already going down he just redirected it (still a good feat, but one the most people get wrong). It put massive strain on his body and he was nearing passing out.
Can we all just admit they should make a new Starkiller game?
The force unleashed 3
I mean, they already add new Legends stuff to Old Republic, so why not add even more?
They should just reboot it and make it cannon again
Remake the force unleashed games 🗣🗣
Let’s put this in perspective, Cal struggles to fight one rancor that they treat it like this big boss encounter, Galen on the other hand fought rancors casually like common grunts. They’re incomparable
Yeah, we need a Cal Kestis legends game where he would be able to like slow down the f-ing world when exploring his TRUE potential and getting trained like Galen. Then if he was on the dark side all the time and like 5.000.000.000x stronger than before, he probably had lightning too and be op af. That would be nice as hell
@@Completely_stonedit bothers me you don’t know that force unleashed was canon at its time it wasn’t until Disney came in that they retconned it so starkillers power fit in the universe
Cal utilzies the Force like a tool and a performance enhancer.
Galen Marek UNLEASHES the Force.
Best nd most simplest explanation, but that’s what sith are trained to do, they are taught to exploit the force, jedi are taught to balance the force
Lmfao that’s a great pun
Cals starting to turn sith so maybe the third game he’ll use the force more
Exactly. That’s why my favorite part of Force Unleashed is when Galen says “it’s unleashin’ time” and then he unleashes the force.
Galen uses the force for like everything, Jedi use it to enhance themselves and for non violent reasons, Galen uses it to interact with the world.
I love Cal and Jedi Survivor really made him into one of my favorite characters in the new canon but even high balling him he isn’t scaling to Galen
if he doesnt then the only reason we beat galen is plot. which is stupid
This. Galen was literally trained to hunt Jedi. He legit beat a jedi master as well. This is a mismatch
I was just about to comment something like this. I love Cal, but Galen is crushing him by a lot.
let's not forget Galen takes down both Vader and Sidious, at the same time....Nothing really scales to that other than Legends Master Luke.
let's not forget Galen takes down both Vader and Sidious, at the same time....Nothing really scales to that other than Legends Master Luke.
I love how the thumbnail says "Will Cal survive" my first thoughts too. There's a reason star killer hasn't been brought into the Canon. If he was, he could solve all the problems in the galaxy before they even popped off. And thats him as what I'd assume, is a night. Can you imagine GRAND MASTER Star killer? Dude would be throwing battle cruisers left and right
Good that he is not cannon
Starkiller is like Anakin
@@marcellburton9349 Starkiller in legends is what I imagine a fully intact anakin using the darkside would be like. That being said, the dude also went toe to toe fairly easily againest vader many times
Just saying that Galen (Starkiller) was planned to be canon before Disney took over so it was scrapped. Btw, did you do Sith master? It took me 4 hours in my VERY best speed run.
@@khotunkhan3950 George Lucas considered starkiller canon, so :)
I love Cal but Galen is a whole entirely different monster
Starkiller is the monster that hides under Vader's bed.
God damn I miss Starkiller. I love Cal, but it's so limiting being on the light side. Starkiller's force abilities were WAYYYY more fun to use. Not just the lightning and force choke. Starkiller could throw a tie-fighter and pull down a star destroyer. Cal can barely lift regular combatants.
Idk man, Cal has lifted groups of enemies in Jedi Survivor. Also crushes droids when he pulls them with the Force. So while not *super* powerful per se, I'd say he's around the level of Anakin during Attack of the Clones right now. With obviously a lot more fight IQ 0.O
@@thedutchwolf97 Nah bro, i need to force choke someone right now. Bring back Galen! lol
I'm really hoping we see Cal use more dark side abilities in the next game. I'm glad they're even toying with it in Survivor.
@@thedutchwolf97 wouldn’t even give him that. Maybe ventress level
@@thedutchwolf97 to be fair he has to tap into his darkness to crush people and he can only do it to droids
Even with removing Starkiller's overpowered force abilities (lets just go with nerfing them to more standard power levels), he'd still have a high advantage against Cal due to their respective training.
Cal never got to complete his Padawan training because of Order 66 and the death of his Jedi Master, whereas Galen was trained for most of his life by Vader under some very harsh Sith training methods (even having PROXY frequently attack him with the combat profiles of several Jedi Masters).
While Cal did manage to adapt to the times and grew to become a seasoned survivor, Starkiller was forged into a lethal weapon from day 1 and not even turning towards the Light Side kept Galen from his destructive potential.
Amen
Can't forget the fact that Galen was 17 in the first Force Unleased game
Well galen doesnt have a poncho so idk
@@Thesneakyassassin fax. Mans was like the xxxtentacion of the force lmfao
“Master Marek there’s too many of them what do we do?”
One thing I don't understand about the star destroyer getting pulled down feat. Everyone just takes into account. The weight and size of the craft and not the fact that its engines are also actively working to keep it up directly contesting against his power as well, he pulled that weight and overpowered the ship's engines.
Size matters not. Is the saying that usually comes to mind. I mean look at what some of the old Sith Lords were doing, if they ever make that cannon again, which I don’t think they will? And if they do, they might nerf that too. But. that’s nothing to what Luke did, from what I hear, he literally made a black hole explode in upon itself. I don’t know, I’d say star killer pulling down the star destroyer is pretty minimal compared to what Luke displayed right there.
And star killer is one of my favorite characters of all time. So I don’t say that lightly.
He didn't pull it down, it was already crashing. Still very impressive, but all he did was redirect.
If we're getting specific, gravity helped. But yeah, Starkiller walks away every time, Cal doesn't. Every time.
In force unleashed 2 I believe some of your force powers disintegrate your enemy's when they are upgraded,cal might be able to kill you with a force push but starkiller will atomize you with one
Force repulse basically makes him a force bomb.
If you use confuse while in the embrace the darkness state you can instakill the storm troopers
@@TonyJaaFan1587This isn't talked about enough- Cal has the potential to instantly shut off the minds of people.
@@supergoodadvice853
When focusing or unconsciously? Which many situations did this happen and why did it happen to shut off the mind? Haven't seen the game honestly but not gonna see it yet anytime soon since I'm busy with other issues. Just curious.
Doesn't Starkiller have the ability to "Unleash" the force in a deadly sphere shaped explosion?
Starkiller beats Cal 10/10 times, no contest. Agreed on your points of legends vs canon. Great video!
I mean. Legends characters are basically gods at even mid end.
Cals force slow from Survivor changes the discussion tbh
@@IBeJaMz Not even in the slightest
@@IBeJaMz it really doesn't
@@IBeJaMz Force users train to have a barrier around them to resist Force powers during encounters. That is why you don't see many Force using during duels.
I'm going to bring this up whenever I can just because it's really cool.
Starkiller's force repulse disintegrating people in-game is actually the censored version. In the audio novel of the force unleashed 2, when Starkiller is fighting the clones on Kamino (during the Darth Vader fight), he uses force repulse and it describes the aftermath of the air being a blood red mist and smelling like corpses.
TFU ones book also had a bit when got eaten by a ramcor he basically blew it up. When Juno saw him after this he was caked in blood
As much as ive grown to absolutely LOVE Cal, in Starkillers crosshairs, he's getting both scrambled like an egg *and* folded like an omelete simultaneously.
As soon as you referred to Starkiller as the Broly of the Star Wars universe, you immediately got a like from me. Literally both of my favorite characters from each series
In Legends, Force Users were capable of great feats (Starkiller pulls a Star Destroyer down out of the sky, Mace Windu wipes out a Super Battle Droid army with his fists, Yoda defends Ilum from an army of droids and defends one of the front lines on the battle of Coruscant almost by himself)
In Disney canon, they just seem so weak. They barely use the Force, and when they do, the best they can manage is Force pushing someone a few feet away.
Can't forget surfing a nebulous b into a cloning center on kamino
Palpatine's Clone in the Dark Empire basically doesn't need a Death Star anymore and can destroy planets with a Force Storm. The EU really went hard on nothing being a match to the force.
@@l0rf the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force after all!
@@TGPDrunknHick I find your abundance of faith reassuring.
You’re talking about they most exceptional of force users vs average or below average ones
Honestly? I think the biggest mark in Galen's favor isn't all of his skills, it's that Cal NEVER displays an aptitude for Tutemenis or being able to withstand large voltages, and Galen's go-to maneuver is Force Lightning. He'll use that first, most often, and he is EXCEPTIONALLY skilled with it. Lacking an answer to that, Cal would get wounded or at the very least winded quickly, giving Galen more than enough openings to take advantage with his exceptional speed, force powers or melee repertoire.
Maybe the third game will give him the boost he needs
@@AZDfox not likely
@@MeltyZombieMore possibly.
@@FirestoneAnimationThis is starkiller we talking about. The guy who spent most his life who went through some of the most grueling training under Vader himself.
@@AZDfoxthere is no boost that he could get that would put him in the realm of starkiller without darth vader intervening and inevitable killing him because that much power would legitimately threaten the emperor himself
I think if they were ever going to bring star killer back, it should be In Cal’s third game. It would never be a fight that he could win, but wouldn’t it be awesome to see those two interact?
Imagine starkiller's creative application for using his raw power. It'd be like Kratos fighting Atreus
The only way I can see this become reality 100% for sure is composite Star Wars (everything canon and maybe some event re adapted) and I think if they have to meet they would fight at first(obviously Galen doesn’t go all out from the get go,like gauging cal power for how much he needs to output to put him to sleep) when they realize that they can be ally’s and maybe they can help each other with stuff that they don’t have like:Galen can help cal to have a better grasp and control over his dark side and help him refine his combat a bit,while cal can teach Galen some counters for those lightsaber styles that he uses,some force tricks and giving him some Jedi history lessons
Imagine Starkiller teaching Cal some of his shit. now we get to pull down two SDs
honestly wouldnt want Starkiller to be canon. They'd tone down his character and nerf him to the ground. They'd probably make him lose to some guy with a blaster
they wouldnt though, because cal would never get away, starkiller is the strongest character in the star wars universe and has never once let someone escape a live, I mean he even killed himself lol
The gameplay mechanics speaks for itself, as StarKiller is mostly used to take out entire ARMIES by himself with ease, along with the strongest of individual force users. While Cal is used to take out small groups or to only get by strong force users until he becomes just strong enough to rival them. But even with Cal’s versatility, his feats don’t even come close to StarKillers, on and off screen.
Regardless of how i feel Cal is outmatched, I'm happy to have found a new character to appreciate that's on par in my heartfelt regards to not just Starkiller but also Revan and Kyle Katarn, all Jedi I adored in my childhood. Cal joined a roster that's hard to live up to.
Starkiller was designed to be a grenade you throw at an enemy and feel over power, cal is designed to be dark soul game where every win feels like an great achievement with the boss
The nostalgia that that this vid brings. You just feel so powerful when playing as star killer.
Even if the difference in power scaling wasn't so drastic, there's also still the fact that basically all of Starkillers training boils down to letting him fight other force users. Additionally, he basically spent his entire life either training or using what he learned in combat.
Cal on the other hand had his training cut short by Order 66 and he then went into hiding for several years, lacking a teacher until he met Cere.
Whilst Cal was keeping a low profile, Starkiller was cheerfully climbing over mountains of corpses left by the imperial armies elite.
Galen can also cast sith seeker a move even stated by Palpatine to be extremely dangerous not only to the opponent but to the caster themselves if not properly executed
Starkiller: “You ran away from Vader? Must be lucky. I, though, bested him.”
Vader was holding back
@@frostbite2179 what?
@@Castigar48 both physically, stronger and faster than his legends counterpart his legends suit restricted him much much more than the cannon suit i’m not talking about force powers, which they should be roughly equal should’ve made it clear I was not talking about the force powers
@frost bite starkiller will still have some advantages like force lightning, more agility quickness athleticism flexibility ect
@@frostbite2179 thats a lie like where do you get that disney vader is stronger than legends? do you even have a calc to prove he's faster?
I love how the title is “Who wins?” but the thumbnail is “Can Cal Survive?”
What I like about Cal is that he's the underdog, similar to characters from other franchises like Star-Lord or Hawkeye. He isn't the toughest or the fastest, but always manages to pull through, and makes it look as badass as possible. He's the definition of slow and steady wins the race. And you could argue that he has far more willpower than most very powerful Jedi. Hell his entire rogues gallery is a testiment to that fact. Dagan was the worst of them, being one of the best Jedi of his time yet falling to the dark side due to his pride alone. He wasn't even thinking about his dead fellow Jedi prior to his turning.
I agree.
let us just take a moment to appreciate the actors who these iconic Star Wars characters are playing
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The starkiller in force unleashed 2 was heavily implied to be the actual starkiller. The novels practically even say he's not a clone. The darkside ending wasn't canon as they planned a 3rd game about the lighside ending where they would comfirm he wasn't a clone. Also it's also implied Vader was trying to convince him he was a clone to better control him and break his will. There's a lot of stuff that basically implies he's not a clone. Other than that great video!
This is the first time someone said in the force unleashed 2 starkiller wasn't a clone. Because, everyone really think he was a clone but not me. My theory was when he died in the force unleashed 1, he was just unconscious or maybe vader somehow revived him and when he woke up vader told him he was a clone. This is my theory man, I am glad someone else believes starkiller was not a clone in the force unleashed 2.
Very good breakdown. Can't argue with your analysis of this one. WELL DONE!
In the third game, Cal will fight Galen who is the most powerful member of the Inquisitorius! Remember this comment.
This would be kinda funny
@Lord Tyranus agreed, he did say he'd love to return as the character on the insideofyou podcast a few weeks back but honestly the way star wars has been going under Disney I think it's just not time to see him yet and they'd have to massively under power him or keep him the same but show what he's doing after the 2nd game
@@Tyrosine0910 he only needs to be on par with Ahsoka, which is all he ever was anyway
@@anarki1177 what has she done to show she is even close to him , stop overhyping Ashoka . She’s a great character one of my favorites but she hasn’t done anything to show she’s near as powerful as Galen . Maybe her saber skills cause they’re great but her force feats just DO NOT match Galen’s at all really.
Don't get me wrong im rockin wit masta kestis HEAVILYYYYY. But theres actually no chance he beating starkiller even on a bad day my guy
20 minutes to explain Starkiller stomps the dog shit out of Cal.
Putting starkiller and cal in the same room would be like that time mike tyson shouts at the reporter
Respect for not overating starkiller and giving some respect to cal
Always do my best!
Double respect
@@Dark_Lord_of_Mustafar Starkiller.
You don't have to overrate Starkiller to understand he would clap Cal despite my love for the ginger menace
@@NnullXdon't waste your time on slow ppl
I like how Cal basically has his own version of “Ripper mode” as shown here 17:22 😂
Cal at the end of Jedi Survivor is like Galen at the start of Force Unleashed. It's not even fair.
This has got to be a joke? Starkiller defeats Darth Vader and nearly the emperor in back to back fights. Cal sees Vader as a completely unfathomable force. Cal gets wrecked in a split second against my boy starkiller.
Love what you put together, I do hope Cal gets at least one more game to show even more progress. While I agree with you wholeheartedly, the biggest factor is in the training. Starkiller was trained by Vader day 1. Cal was learning, but had to run and no longer used his powers for 5 years. I think he is ramping up...although I doubt they would let Cal ever beat Vader tbh.
Would love to see Kyle Katarn or Din Djarin paired up with an opponent in a matchup someday lol. I’m surprised no one has had a Mando v Boba v Jango three way matchup yet
Kyle fucking murders the man wtf. He beat a guy who was stated as Vader level, Dins best is him matching Ahsoka.
Din would get bodied by most Mandolorians during the clone era. His only redeeming factor is his durability but his battle prowess is just lacking in most regards
@@kingmoneilius7777 If you're referring to Jerec, the novel clarifies that Kyle cut Jerec off from the Force to win.
@@CRISIS_COMICS wouldn’t that still require him to have relative force output? It’s an impressive feat regardless.
@@CRISIS_COMICS He's likely referring to his fight against Darth Caedus, who was stated to be more powerful than Vader in the Force. The only reason Kyle lost that fight was due to Caedus' desperation tactics, he chucked a speeder at him and then stabbed him through the gut. Though Kyle did fight on a battlefield for another good 2 hours after this without medical attention. Man was as tenacious as they come.
The real answer is whatever game I'm currently playing.
This man wins
A really awesome 3rd game idea would bring Galen into it at first as an enemy then turns and you can fight with both Cal and Galen individually. The timelines match up in a lot of ways. Vader just recovering after his fight with Cere then this takes place. Could be pretty awesome.
Spoilers for Jedi Survivor
One thing that I noticed that’s pretty interesting is that star killer in the force unleashed starts off as a Sith but later on down the line slowly taps into the light, Cal starts off as a Jedi, but later on down the line slowly taps into the Dark
As George Lucas said “ it’s like poetry, it rhymes”
I'm really hoping we get an dark sided game .
That really doesn’t mean anything should I give a shit given that the original cannon is no longer canon and that the shittier canon is
Kinda makes me want a Canon Starkiller as the final enemy for Cal in the next game
My bet is on starkiller but cal is impressive and I can't wait to see your take
Don’t disrespect Starkiller like this. Cal is literally the youngling to Starkiller’s Anakin.
gotta be honest tho, I like Cals unique force ability, being able to slow down time, i wish they had that ability in Survivor instead of just having it be his ultimate ability, but thats something ill always love about the games.
Two of the best characters to come out of star wars video games.
And now one of my favorite versus creators matching them up.
AWSOME!!!
@@CRISIS_COMICSeveryone at the party 😐
Now we need to see Starkiller vs Kyle Katarn so we can know who the real champ is
You also forgot one thing in the games you can channel the electric force through his blade for star killer or force push through his blade as well
Thats funny lol! Did you just say Cal vs Starkiller!
Looking forward to this
Hope you enjoy!
This is one of the most one-sided verses I have ever seen
Galen is my second favorite Jedi in any canon or legends continuity, man. I grew up abused (not that bad and not with magical powers, granted,) and the fact that he flipped the "Jedi falls to selfishness" into "Sith ascends to Hero" is a feat not often replicated, but highly worth respecting.
you just gained a sub
Maybe Cal in the 3rd game can be a good match up for Starkiller, but for now he’s not there yet
Cal still has a looong ass path to go so he can reach starkiller levels of force control and power,but nothing a huge timeskip wouldn't solve
@@bcgazero6472 huge time skip wouldnt solve the lack of having a master, compared to starkillers master being vader who was the most powerful in the universe before starkiller, he then went on to kill 3 jedi masters, defeating vader twice and darth maul. cal defeated a gen dai, a high republic fallen jedi but only due to the help of BD-1 and bode, and then killed bode who is a weak force user with padawan or low knight levels of training at best, not to mention he was helped by merin in the majority of the fight, I love cal and really enjoyed both games however he would never be capable of defeating star killer, and aswell as that so long as darth vader is a life star killer will simply be remade
@@kodiwtf I mean,maybe he can still resort to yoda,he still wouldnt be nearly as strong as starkiller because he has restraint,starkiller even as a jedi would crush whoever the fuck is against him with the dark side
@@bcgazero6472 though i wouldn’t be surprised if in the third game he chooses to get rid of his restraint, I mean he has started to already buy killing all of his opponents in the 2nd game, he was reluctant too but still did it.
@@kodiwtf he's pretty much taking luke's path but way slower
Not to get off topic but the high republic stuff really is a turn off. "Greatest jedi who ever lived" sounds like it came straight from the lamest elementary school fan fiction. Back to topic, I would be disappointed if Cal was made out to be OP by Jedi standards. His is an underdog story through and through while Starkiller's is a story about a monster's redemption or lack thereof.
I think Kal is implied to be a solid Jedi, probably on the level of Kenobi or Qui Gon. Near the council members in power, but not quite. (Kenobi was in because of all the others that died lol)
Man I wish they would remastered the force unleashed for the PS5, I'm tryna play it with Jedi survivor graphics, they missing out with doing this
Yeah, that's pretty much the conclusion I was guessing it'd be. Without over/underselling each character, once you start looking at what they've actually managed to do, Cal's simply outclassed.
CRISIS at start of video: Power isn't everything.
CRISIS at the end of the video: So Starkiller probably goes force hulk on Cal.
When did I say power isn’t everything?😂 I just said canon Vader ≠ Legends Vader.
@@CRISIS_COMICS "While this match up may seem one sided to some there is more to meets the eyes." is what i was joking about. In other vs. match up vids this is usually a precursor to saying the fight isn't quite as one sided as some may think.
@@CRISIS_COMICS canon vader doesn't have thar many feats
@@sithmaster4305 That was to address people who might assume Cal is fodder when he’s actually been buffed heavily by Survivor, as well as Legends mid-tiers being >>>>> canon high tiers. There’s nuance and it isn’t as simple as many ppls preconceptions about it being one sided; not to say it isn’t one sided tho.
@@CRISIS_COMICS I’m gonna press X to doubt on all of that bullshit you just speed right there but go off
Putting EU Starkiller against Cal? ya didnt have to do our favorite redhead like this man
I'd rather see these 2 fight side by side. It would be epic
This depends entirely on which one is the protagonist and antagonist. Also depends which one is the player character and which one is AI.
Objectively, Starkiller wins.
Cmon this isn’t even fair bro
But it is topical and interesting! 🎉
2 games with 2 novels except cal’s novel got turned into a lesbian sex story😂
Did not know this was a debate
"Broly of Star Wars" is now how i will refer to Galen
In survivor we just got a little taste of what Cal can do if he turns to the dark side.
Starkiller. Was trained by both light and dark side users.
This it the way I view this: Galen / Starkiller is obviously way more powerful in terms of raw power and combat ability. It's not even close. He's therefore very enjoyable to playa as a combat-orientated character.
What makes Cal awesome is that he is *not* the strongest in terms of anything that he does, but he strives and fights anyway. In some ways, it makes him even more of a hero.
This was a thoughtful and great video!
No it wasn't. Too shallow and too much harping on made up numbers.
@@ponthackslayer3339 okay
Having this fight go down is like putting a special grade up against a possible grade one/grade 2 sorcerer In other words basically putting Gojo up against Reggie or Nanami
What the fuck are you talking about bro
They should do a dlc where cal runs into Galen. The one sided fight and run away scene would be epic
Starkillers so fast though😂
Cal is a better written character than Starkiller but he doesn't have any chance against Galen Marek.
It would be a miracle if Cal could make it at least a whole minute
Cal Ketis reminds me of Obi-wan, was never a stand out as a padawan, and had to rely on training, dedication and trust in the force to become one of the most exceptional jedi
Star Killer is so powerful that he was made non-cannon on purpose.
Starkiller gonna cook him 😂
I like how the title is could he survive well the thumbnail
Being Vader's surrogate son has to count for some thing.
😂 no... But Starkiller is ridiculously OP, but still a cool character
I would love to see cal in the next game use more dark side abilities like the choke or even lightning.
Well, considering how its now canonical that light side jedi can use lightning... yeah its possible
I think it would be MUCH better if they were a team.
Hey can you do a video on insomniac Spider-Man to see like how strong he is just like you did with the Arkham version of Batman please and thank you
Would be cool if you made a video of seeing who’s the strongest sith of all time,feel everyone has a different answer to the question and I m curious
I wrote a video about that for [REDACTED]
@@CRISIS_COMICS you’re talking about [DATA_EXPUNGED]?
It's difficult to do the strongest sith of all time because there are many extremely powerful sith in the eu
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 true,just wondering because there’s solid evidence for sidious,but also Darth Viciate has some life to him that would say him
@@isaaccuevas1717 you forgot exar kun, he is far more powerful than revan czcams.com/video/FvKE3uRBOjE/video.html
Starkiller would absolutely WRECK Cal. he was able to pull down a star destroyer, and throws Tie Fighters like they are beach balls. Cal struggles lifting a Wampa
Poor, poor Cal. Dudes gonna get a Star Destroyer dunked on him.
SK was trained by Darth Vader to be his apprentice and help him defeat the emperor. If you compare the way Vader trainned the Inquisitors and SK there will be a huge difference as he only cared for the latter and was forced to train the former.
This. The inquisitors got the minimum training. Starkiller the premium level.
Heres hoping one day we get a force unleashed 3 🙏
You forgot to go into depth with Cals saber forms. I’ll do it for you:
He uses Shi cho in the first game supplemented by ataru. In the second, he incorporates Djem so (cross guard), and Makashi with the blaster stance, but most importantly he developed Niman. The Jack of all trades form that it’s variant Jar Kai incorporates a second lightsaber, or double saber. He’s rather proficient in them too.
Most importantly, he views his lightsaber as a tool, a tool that can be adjusted based on the situation. He’s a highly versatile Jedi who has every tool he would ever need. Personally I think he’s going to be the next Kyle Katarn.
Still gets bodied
@Whoson8501
True, especially when considering Lightning as Cal has yet to face it. Cal is the better swordsman, but Starkiller has a superior connection to the Force. The way I see it happening is that they at first open up with lightsaber attacks. Cal is at first overwhelmed but activates his double saber. With a few slashes, he manages to partially turn the tables. Starkiller leaps back and uses lightning. Cal screams in agony. But manages to bring his blades around. Cal uses Stasis to slow Starkiller down, but it’s only so effective. They trade blows again, with Cal using the crossguard for more aggressive attacks. The main advantage here is his lengthened blade, forcing Starkiller to fall back. From this point Starkiller knows that to get in close with this Jedi means death. So he pelts Call from a distance with pushes, shoves, repulses, and lightning. Cal realizes he’s not getting out alive if he doesn’t do something. So, he calls on the Dark Side and goes into a near berserker rage with his speed and strength greatly increased. Starkiller is caught off guard, slashed, kicked, thrown into walls, chased down. But Cal is eventually ovewhelmed by the Dark Side and tires. At that point, Cal is overwhelmed and killed, But not after a grueling fight leaving Starkiller battered and bruised.
My inner-need is raging that this is even a match-up. StarKiller would delete Trash Kestis in an instant with close to zero effort needed
Inner-nerd
Starkiller low diifs in my opinion. Also happy may the fourth crisis
May the 4th be with you!
@@CRISIS_COMICS thanks Buddy
The main difference comes from, well, continuity. Hypothetical Canon Starkiller or Kyle vs hypothetical Legends Cal, Ezra or Kanan, would results in the victory of their Legends counterpart.
It's like comparing Zeus to Mike Tyson.
I think you have it backwards.
Galen is just made different, a beast in both light saber combat and force abilities
JJJ: *wheeze and laughter* you serious?
Cal's saber can't cut through people though so starkiller automatically wins.
i like cal as a character but starkiller takes this the scaling chain with star wars legends is insane
If that was the case then he would’ve pretty much at the end of the game not only soloed the entire empire but he would’ve basically sat up here and pretty much prevented a new hope from happening meanwhile star killer not only prevented a new hope from happening but fucked up the entire timeline if you decide to kill Vader
@@mattmetawolf8634force unleashed was never canon so it didn’t matter
@@champ7139 Neither is Fallen order
@@mattmetawolf8634 fallen order is cannon. Have you not seen the tv shows lately? They’re all connected
@@champ7139 no not really it’s you’re gonna try to convince me that it’s connected to the rest of that piece of shit fanfic known as Disney then good luck you’d have better chances of Touching Gojo threw his infinity then you would convincing me that anything Disney made is canon including fallen order