The True Power of Luke Skywalker | STAR WARS LEGENDS
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*The scan at 1:37 is actually from Legacy of the Force: Invincible.
Luke Skywalker was a renowned Force-sensitive Human male who helped defeat the Galactic Empire in the Galactic Civil War and helped found the New Republic, as well as the New Jedi Order.
Born in 19 BBY as the son of the fallen Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker and the Queen and Senator of Naboo, Padmé Amidala, Luke was raised on Tatooine and hidden from Emperor Palpatine and his father, who had recently become Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith. In 0 BBY, Skywalker's life changed forever. A chance purchase of two droids, R2-D2 and C-3PO, led to him to receive training in the ways of the Force from Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi and to meet Han Solo, and Princess Leia Organa, who was, unbeknownst to him, his twin sister. Skywalker then destroyed the first Death Star and joined the Rebel Alliance.
Over the next few years, he fought in many of the most important battles of the Galactic Civil War, helping to found Rogue Squadron and fighting Imperial forces across the galaxy. In 3 ABY, Skywalker received Jedi training from Yoda, and learned from Vader that the Sith Lord was his father. One year later, he fought in the Battle of Endor, and succeeded in turning his father back to the light. Thanks to Skywalker, Palpatine was killed, and the Empire was dealt a crippling blow. One year later, the New Republic was formed.
Throughout the succeeding decades, Skywalker helped keep peace throughout the galaxy as the New Republic slowly defeated small remnants of the Empire. When Palpatine returned in the form of several clone bodies, Luke temporarily fell to the dark side and became the resurrected Emperor's apprentice. He was later redeemed with the help of his friends, and continued with his goal of reviving the Jedi Order. In 11 ABY, he founded the New Jedi Order, and began teaching Force-sensitives about the ways of the Force at the Jedi Praxeum, fulfilling his destiny as the first of the new Jedi.
Several years after the conclusion of the Galactic Civil War, Skywalker found himself, yet again, on the front lines. Skywalker served as the leader of the New Jedi Order, during the Yuuzhan Vong War, an invasion by the extra-galactic Yuuzhan Vong species. During the war, Skywalker's wife gave birth to a son, who they named Ben, in memory of his first mentor of the Force: Ben Kenobi. Skywalker endured countless battles as the New Republic was first pushed back, including the fall of his home on Coruscant. However, the newly reformed government, labeling itself the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances, regrouped and helped push back the alien invaders. In the final stages of the war, Skywalker sought out the living world of Zonama Sekot, convincing the planet to join the Galactic Alliance in a final battle on Coruscant, in which Skywalker personally led the assault on Supreme Overlord Shimrra Jamaane's citadel and slew Jamaane. Combined with the fact that his nephew, Jacen Solo, would soon after kill Jamaane's puppet master, Onimi, the Yuuzhan Vong were defeated and the war was ended.
Skywalker was plunged into a dark time as his nephew, Jacen Solo, became a Sith apprentice under his old adversary Lumiya and slew his beloved Mara. His grief was further compounded by his son's treading near the dark side as well, but he continued to lead the Jedi, forming the Jedi Coalition to oppose the rule of the Alliance by his nephew, now a Sith Lord by the name of Darth Caedus. With Skywalker's aid, Caedus was killed by his twin sister Jaina, ending the war and restoring peace to the galaxy.
In the aftermath of the war, Natasi Daala ascended to the position of Chief of State and fostered a wide spread anti-Jedi sentiment resulting in tensions between the Jedi Order and her government. Daala ultimately had Skywalker arrested for dereliction of duty, and in exchange for his freedom, he was exiled and forbidden from involving himself in the affairs of the Jedi Order. Skywalker and his son embarked on an odyssey across the galaxy in order to discover the causes of Jacen Solo's fall to the dark side. During their journey, the Skywalkers encountered the Lost Tribe of Sith, as well as a malevolent dark side entity known as Abeloth. With the help of his son and the rest of the Jedi, Skywalker returned to his position as Grand Master. Skywalker and his allies then repelled the Sith threat, and with the help of an unlikely Sith ally, defeated Abeloth, preventing another disaster that could endanger the galaxy.
Eventually, Luke passed away, and became one with the Force.
00:00 Intro
04:03 Attack Potency
13:24 Speed
14:37 Skill
16:57 Powers and Abilities
19:45 Force Knowledge
21:18 Outro
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0:05 I know Luke is Anakin's/Vader's son, but heir? Personally, I think Darth Caedus fits that bill more than Luke, but not because he's more powerful (He's not), but because he continued Vader's Legacy of Evil in The Galaxy, while having his blood through his mother, Leia.
I don’t know…..The Sequel Trilogy made him a demented prick….
My hero of all time is Luke Skywalker, Grand Jedi Master. He is so powerful, yet so caring and still humble. He is loved by his sister and friends, revered by the New Alliance, adored by his students and feared by his dark side enemies. My Luke is the one of Legends, never the one of the last trilogy. For me EU Luke will always be Canon.
YES
Mark hamill agrees too. I swear when mark signed up it was for lucas and EU luke and he got stuck playing crappy old grumpy man luke.
Yes, I agree. The Mandolorian redeemed the Luke Skywalker we wanted our hero to be on screen. Thank you Dave Filoni!
Absolutely, I don’t see anything Disney has done as Luke Skywalker, that’s all Jake.
@@matthewparker235 How dare Luke have flaws or make mistakes or redeem himself. Just be Jesus
The true Luke Skywalker. What a fantastic character and a great video showing just how powerful he truly is. I’d love to see a character analysis of how he was as a person in the EU. Also I’m gonna read most of the novels from the EU mainly post RotJ. I must learn more
Spread the word, share the video!
So excited for you jumping into the EU those books are great
@@CRISIS_COMICS luke is underrated he is the most powerful character in star wars far surpassing sidious or yoda
Start with Timothy Zahn novel Heir to Empire
@@SyedAli-gl7jq Luke is the most powerful among the Jedi and Sith but he isn't the most powerful character in Legends. Abeloth is significantly more powerful than peak Luke and significantly more powerful than The Son and The Daughter together, to the point that they needed to have their abilities amplified by sharing a hive mind with thousands of Kiliks to match hers with all that collective power.
The only being in the entire franchise to outright be shown as more powerful than peak Luke is a Lovecraftian abomination infused with the very essence of both the light and dark sides, that just makes Legends Luke even more impressive than if he was the outright most powerful imo.
My favorite character of all time finally getting the justice he deserves
Great video
Hell yeah! Granted I don't follow every aspect of the star wars lore, but Luke always gets shit on by everyone. Nobody knows what a beast he is!
Long live the expanded universe!
Lukas said, Luke got to the Potential of the Chosen one
Well that seems wrong then
Wait when did he say that? Is there a quote
I always thought of was interesting how sinister Luke was walking into Jaba’s palace. He choked out a dude just like his dad would. We’ve seen Vader confront the same palace in canon now, and eerily similar.
He made them feel like they were choking
@@youngmaster7405 what 😭
@@Redamfkp its the same as a jedi mind trick
@@youngmaster7405 or its real name, mind control
@@Lumistrocityforce dominate
He's absolutely the GREATEST JEDI EVER! Grandmaster Skywalker. This is no argument. Legends Luke Skywalker is God mode!
The childhood hero of many. Including myself
Yes Luke has amazing self heal…. he got over kissing his sister on the lips quite easily
Came here from Seth the programmers channel. I know it’s hard as a smaller CZcamsr to keep posting and keep interactions going but I appreciate your videos and you do good work.
Thanks so much! Look around, and I hope you enjoy.
He sounds like he's trying to mimic how Seth talks which is kinda annoying. Sounds like i'm watching a Seth Video.
@@celestialsoldier622 eh i guess
This for me is the true canon Luke
Absolutely. Not that Jake Skywalker
💯% truth.
Luke "Never Jaywalked a Moment in My Life" Skywalker
That intro did kind of change the way I view Luke. I haven’t read too many legends novels yet (I will), but I always pictured him to be kind of a perfect Jedi after his “I am a Jedi like my father before me” moment in ROTJ. I was initially put off by some of the things that he would go on to do mentioned in the video, but none of it ruins his character as bad as Rian Johnson did.
Luke is very understanding of falling into rage,He just prefers if you balance that feeling,But his life has always danced with the dark lmao,He turned to the dark to try to kill palpatine in a ha *Gotcha bitch* moment,And was almost consumed by it
Legends: Blasters move at light speed
Fallen Order: okay buddy
huh? thats just game mechanix
One impessive feat of telekinesis if one thinks about it was him stopping a foodfight, freezing every single object, crumb n droplet in midflight, that was thrown around. He did so directly upon appearing to the sirtuation, without preparedness, basicly to make a point.
In the first black fleet book he manipulated the shattered remains of vader's coruscant fortress on a molecular level with the force to rebuild it.
So the most impressive thing isn't really his powerlevel but his level of control n mastery of the force.
Not his talent or potential, but his actual skill.
Years later and Legends Luke is still one of my favorite fictional characters *EVER*
Everything you said is why I enjoy Luke in the EU so much. All that power but he's still just a man. And as a man who has made many mistakes in my life, I can relate to him.
Ikr EU Luke was great. What's your favorite scene in the Dark Nest trilogy?
Wow nice job on the scaling of Luke frfr. The amount of effort in the editing to the research, your on fire. Keep it up 👌🏽
#LongLiveTheStarWarsExpandedUniverseTheOneTrueOfficialStarWarsCanon
I love how the expanded universe is getting more and more credit. Just shows what losers these multimillion dollar corporations are. Disney, with all it's might, is a mere shadow of the passion of old EU.
0:05 I know that Luke is Anakin/Vader's son, but heir? Nope, Darth Caedus fits that title more than Luke, in my opinion, even though Luke still nearly beat him in Legacy of The Force. Luke can at least be his son, but not heir.
One of the greatest examples of Luke's heroism and authority is when he called jaina "master solo" during the last battle against the lost tribe of the sith on coruscant in "fate of the jedi-apocalypse."
i really appreciate these videos, thanks crisis
I like that you gave sources (books, comics, auto dramas etc)
for the feats
Disney killed the Source Material, give turning Luke into THE Opposite of what George/Legends Depicted him, & gave that title to Rey Pal..Skywalker
It’s absolutely sinful what they did. Like most Star Wars fans don’t consider it Canon because it’s so fundamentally backwards. If all the Jedi that have ever existed Luke Skywalker is the least likely to have ignited his lightsaber whilst standing over his nephew. It would have NEVER happened. It’s the absolute opposite of everything Luke Skywalker is.
The absolute opposite, words cannot describe how immeasurably wrong they got Luke Skywalker. I don’t think there has ever been such a catastrophically incorrect decision in all of film making history. Fans literally do not accept those films as Canon because of that decision. Mark Hamill himself had to save us all from it by calling him Jake Skywalker. It’s an unforgivable offence to do what they did.
Kathleen Kennedy shows her true colors in the "sequel trilogy" - GIVING Rey EVERYTHING that was Luke's, INCLUDING HIS NAME, without her having to EARN any of it. All the power and accolades of the man without any of the work or accountability. Yep, sounds like feminism alright.
The actual Luke. I don't know what the hell that thing was in the sequel trilogy.
That’s Jake Skywalker
So just 2 questions about abeloth, 1-in the scan that states that abeloth is weaker than the celestials at 11:33, isn’t that referring to before abeloth turned into a monster? because it immediately talks about abeloth becoming corrupted after stating she was less powerful, meaning her corruption could have elevated her above the celestials since she was corrupted trying to become more powerful. 2-wouldn’t the fact that it takes both the son and the daughter to imprison her mean that at the least she’s stronger than them individually?
She is stated to have the same power as the father, idk about the son and daughter
@@acactus2190She isn't, no. She is explictly weaker than the Father.
The Father was also involved in sealing her away, so you'd have to argue she's strong than The Father , which she isn't
Good video crisis, big ups
Disney seems to see Luke Skywalker as a plot device to give exposition in the sequel trilogy.
Nice to know how badly Disney butchered him from a great character with deep lore to a weak old man cowering on an island
Really good video, subscribed! 👍
So back in the day, we pre-prequel trilogy gamers held a loose consensus that blasters fired "light energy" or, as also stated in numerous sources, plasma. Lasers are...lasers, and in canon travel as lasers do but lasers are very rarely if ever handheld weapons in Star Wars.
Great video! I love the Legends, Loop Skywalker, I would love to of had this version of him in movies instead of what we got in Disney, however, this version of Luke and Legends is my true cannon what happened after return of the Jedi.
Great video and the depth you go into Luke Skywalker is incredible. I can see why you never talked about oneness with the force.
His knowledge of the eu is limited
Wasn’t entirely sure on the music you played when moving to the different sections but the feats and explanations of the scaling like with Abeloth were peak as usual. Keep it up.
14:26 when you realize that means han solo can react at around 4 million times the speed of light due to his starkiller feats
Sound and solid points with great support for your position. I didn't really like Luke growing up. I got started on the prequels, so in my mind, a Jedi had to work for decades and train endlessly to be successful. Yes we know Luke is a force abberation but so was Anakin, and he had to train for a decade... I always felt like Luke was a bit of a Mary Sue. It took a long time for me to accept and appreciate Luke's power, I just hated how quickly it came to him. A couple months on Dagobah, year or two in isolation. Like Luke versus Maul, in my headcannon, that's Maul all day. But we know that's an absolute impossibility, and Luke is way ahead of him, like realistically could probably have beat him one on one without ever have seeing a sith, which is kinda crazy.
I still feel ANAKIN is the strongest / had the highest level potential (Lv 120?) where as Luke was probably Lv 110 which is still God Tier but damn. Luke more powerful than all of the jedi council with just some self-reflection and a couple quick (albeit super focused) years of training never did sit right with me. Before all this disney star wars stuff, I used to ignore EU tbh. Now I view EU as cannon and got pissed watching disney Luke be a weak wimp. Lol. Ironic.
(edit: spelling)
He saved Darth Caedus. He knew he was going to kill his nephew and he may went straight beast mode not holding back. When you're not holding back you go crazy
I never really got that Anakin was over powering the ones I thought it was him controlling them via being the chosen one not a feat of power but an ability inherent to his status. Otherwise I feel the scaling makes no sense
exactly what it was
He wasn't the Father yet so controlling them doesn't really make sense , especially when the Father explicitly told him to use the power of Mortis
Luke could do the same thing if he was in mortis
Also crucible amp probably puts him around celestial levels of power.
But Can he beat Obi Wan in the High Ground
Thank you great video it helped me on the toilet
I've always loved Luke, first saw Star Wars at 11, so of course he became a hero. Yet over time he needed to be the hero, just like Vader/Anakin needed to always be the villain. Doing back flips to make vader good or making Luke bad is going against the idea of the story.
He was, until Disney got their grubby hands all over the Star Wars IP
Lukes arc is imo one of the best
Luke is #1 Master of carrying a back pack while he runs.
Anakins domination of son n daughter was inside mortis. A force nexus that's explicitly described to enhance force powers, which allowed qui gon to fully manifest there b4 his training of this trick was done. I see this feat of anakin as a scaling crutch over n over with everybody completely ignoring that fact.
Also it was done, not to test anakin's strength, but his character. Therefore it is not at all clear if the son n daughter were even really trying to resist.
It was a test to reveal if he would faulter, pick one of his companions over the other or try to help both no matter what.
I loved to see ur deconstruction of the go to bit as a "proof" of abeloths superiority over the ones.
I think, that scene of anakin is a similar kinda problem, where ppl are rush to conclusion by using a scene at surface value without any concideration of context.
While Anakin was undeniably amped by Mortis, it's patently intellectually dishonest to try to pretend like as if the entire point of most of the arc is moot because of that, which is that Anakin is, flat out, meant to be a replacement for the Father in keeping the two in line. That includes them possibly escaping, as well, which we know they have done before. The obvious intention of the arc is that Anakin has Father-level potential. You can try to backflip and handwave your way past it all you want, it's a brick wall you are always going to need to deal with; Anakin, per the Mortis arc, is supposed to be able to equal or exceed the Father, the strongest individual character in the franchise. Luke, by contrast, is simply not on that level. He just isn't. FotJ and Crucible make it very, very clear that Luke isn't on the level of the Anchorites or other god-level people.
@@papapalps2415 he is meant to do so THERE, so it's not at all implied by the task, that hhe would ever gain the ability to do it outside mortis.
The only possible counterpoint is that we also don't know how much of their access to the force the ones would keep outside.
That point is just as unclear.
In their current form during the arc they never were elsewhere, far away of any force nexus.
But even if they were celetials, those were technicly advanced but still a mortal species b4 transcending.
The ones actually seem to have been normal people once.
I just can't stand how this particular feat of anakin is used again n again as scaling point for his power of any state he was in b4 his death.
It's not about how could he perhaps b in some future, but how was he azt a specific point in time.
The mortis arc was ended with a questionmark about how real it was.
It doesn't becomes meaningless but more as source for insight n learning like any vision.
@@phorz85No ones saying Anakin can do what he did on Mortis without being on Mortis , the Father MADE Mostis so Anakin at Full potential could equal his power , but he never reached it so it's pointless to say he's anywhere close to that.
The Ones are literally stated to be Concepts so I don't think they can age , you should know how Anakin became the guy with the highest Midochlorian count in history, it's cuz of Sidious and Plagus
This makes it more complicated than it needs to be. Abeloths power grows with the fear and anguish she's able to feed off of. So her power scales depending on that. This is why she fears Luke. Hes the shining light to her darkness. She was imprisoned, but she was never able to be defeated by the son and daughter to the level that Luke and Krayt achieved. She is definitely more powerful than him by his own thoughts. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been able to bring balance to the son and daughter. That never got explored so we just don't know.
Also George stated that Luke was the most powerful Jedi to have ever existed. That includes Anakin. Potential, with anakin being the chosen one, never turned into reality with his limitations. I feel like Luke's final legends form is what anakin could have been if he had been emotionally stable. On the other hand, being the chosen one could have been just a power to keep balance between the son and daughter. Not necessarily being the most powerful jedi.
These videos are fun tho.
Lucas never stated that, no.
I 100% agree with you on his heroism scale. He’s definitely not perfect and that’s what makes him one of my favorites him and anikan are very similar in that sense
The Goat.
People don't understand how powerful the force sever technique is it can completely destroy the midchronian on a person's body, exar kun tanked this technique in a massive escalate perform by over 2000 jedis creating a wall of light in the entire yavin4 moons 🌙 exar kun survived this the jedi couldn't kill him because he was too strong and wish to become a god, the jedi academy omnibus guide say exar kun was a threat to the entire universe.
Without midchronians you die the force sever destroy anything darkseid related and it doesnt take away your ability to use it but feel it
@dx_n3774 than why ulic couldn't use use the force again? The force server ability destroy midchronian cells
@alsimmonshellspawn6021 no it does not. Other why, you would die what it does is essentially make you unable to use midchronian but the effects can be reversed
Fodder to Sidious
@@user-lp8im7ow8s 🤡 exar kun has feats and scaling compared to emperor papaltine reborn
The answer to that question is....
HELL YEAH!
How interesting of a character is Darth Krayt. Is he worth making a video about him?
Krayt's a beast lowkey,I love him,And i usually don't like villians
Yeah boi, I can't wait!
I agree with more or less everything stated in this video. Great video by the way. Technically Luke's final fight happens in the novel Crucible, it was kind of lack luster in my opinion, but it did happen in a very wonky kind of way. I guess some may count that time he was a Force Ghost fighting Cade could be considered a fight that happened later. Nitpicking I know but just thought I'd mention it.
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I’m already subbed. I’ll share the video now.
Also if you’ve watched avatar the last airbender I would like to see a power scaling video on a character.
@@zuko5563 I’ll definitely consider it after the support you’ve shown.
I love the video can you do Alex Mercer vs kaneki
Shatter Point Damn it!!! Nice!!!
I feel like a large part or lukes power comes from his understanding of his own connection to the dark side. Hes not a saint, but a man who has fully mastered himself spiritually.
The most powerful force using characters in the star wars EU have learned both the dark and light side, and rejected the dogma of the sith/jedi dichotomy.
the problem is mastery means nothing when all others involved are also masters,what does mastery then even mean? i think that force power and combat wisdom and intuition start playing the defining roles even how el you keep youre body trained.
a person like palaptine is good with allot of things but not keeping his body in good fit shape,anakin was yet vader was also a wreck in terms of body so the force and cybernetics is what add to his physical strengt yet his biggest asset was anger and the force.
what a great video, and overall just a super professional channel. I’m also trying to make it on CZcams (Cytonox is my main) and just wanted to say from one creator to another absolutely great stuff brother.
Youd have to theorize what Lukes full potential amp would be on Mortis too, because its probably almost identical to mortis Anakin. We're comparing amped Anakin to GM base Luke
After seeing dragon balls Goku I kinda wanna know how strong you can calculate Goku I know there other people who does it with accuracy but I wanna know what you can get and can even separate into different parts of Goku like dragon ball, dragon ball z, dragon ball gt, and dragon ball super
So Luke is stronger than Anakin but not as strong as Anakin?
Anakin is stronger than Luke physically probably while Luke is stronger than Anakin in the force but since there's not much I could go for the potential of Anakin so this is what I could say
Luke is a lot stronger than Anakin Skywalker in his strongest form so Unconflicted Darth Vader in rotj , but the full potential Anakin would destroy luke
Anakin skywalker in his strongest form was in mortis he destroys Luke
@@bhanupriyainampudi6852nah legends luke would destroy him
Do you still have the boba fet vs snake video?
Wasnt anakin amped by the force nexus when he overpowered son and daughter?
Thats was how powerful anakin would’ve become if he reached his full potential
@@jepa4291 No he was amped by a force nexus in that moment not once was it ever stated that's how strong he would have been, And Luke in legends is stated numerous times to have the same potential as anakin only he reached it and his father failed.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350It literally is stated he would have been equal to the Father, so, yes, nor is Luke stated to have the same potential.
Crisis you should make another star wars power scale video
Question? Doesn't every factor count whn fighting for your life? So the better fighter the most powerful wins. The factors that get you there are what they are.
I don´t believe a hierarchy of force-users by numbers makes much sense. The abilities, strengths and weaknesses of Jedi and Sith generally lead to a rock-paper-scissors dynamic rather than a clear tier-list. Windu beat Palpatine, Palpatine would arguably beat Dooku, yet Dooku isn´t necessarily going to loose to Windu, with him possessing an unusual amount of control over his dark side (which, in turn, powered Windu´s Vapaad when fighting Palpatine). The same might apply with Abaloth, the Father, Son and Daughter, Anakin and Luke. A feat - no matter how impressive - might completely overpower one opponet yet turn out useless against another.
Windu didn't beat Palpatine, though, nor is it 'arguable' he would beat Dooku, and at least by ROTS, we explictly know Tyranus would lose to Windu, so all of your assumptions are useless.
@@papapalps2415 Nope.
@@HISTORY_IN_M0TI0N I will accept your concession with grace and understanding.
I forgot I subscribed to this channel lol
You should do a video on Mace next.
You use really good soundtrack and background music in your videos. Can you comment what specific soundtrack you used in this vid?
EU Luke is space Jesus. He literally performs what other force users consider miracles
You wonder why my generation was happy for so long. I had Superman and Luke Skywalker is my heroes to look up to. Not to mention Bruce Lee, Arnold Schwarzenegger's and Michael Jordan. What a f****** crew!
Luke is the most powerful being in the entirety of star wars. The only thing that can win against a prime Luke is Abeloth. The Mortis gods were subdued by Anakin, so Luke should have no issue with them.
no he isn't, he can't hold a candle to the high tiers.
@@StarWarsNegsVerses Legends Grand Master Luke would like to have a word with you
@@IamSupreme333 cool, read supernatural encounters and come back
@@StarWarsNegsVerses Are you really trying to argue in favor of a book that didn’t release? Grandmaster Luke would be disappointed in you
@@IamSupreme333 first of all, it did release, and second, it is licensed.
there goes that
Cade skywalker, Exar Kun, or Cadus skywalker next?
I see so he's basically walking cheat code .
Are you not counting Cade or his father Kol and the cut short potential of Ben Skywalker when you say "...strongest unamped Jedi in all of galactic history..."?
Why would they be counted....?
12:42 forgetting the novel Crucible, are we?
Did he fight anyone there?
@@Power3DHD the Columi Brothers who were boosted by the power of the gate
and how does this relate to abeloth?
@@michaeutech9201You...do realize that the events of Crucible and what happens between Luke and the brothers is actually one of the biggest arguments against him being on the same level as the god-lites, right...?
The true Luke Skywalker is closer to a gray Jedi. His entire character was based on correcting the faults of the Jedi order before him. The Jedi order pretended to hold these high values but they were impossible to keep to and created internal conflicts that bred the dark side, and caused the downfall of the Jedi. The gray Jedi doesn’t make the dark side of the force taboo, but balances it. For every good deed he does, there’s a cruelty he would administer in the name of justice. It’s not about being a good Jedi, he simply reinvented the Jedi order. He could do all of those things and still be good. That’s what made him special
No, Luke isn't a Grey Jedi. His entire arc in the OT is about rejecting the dark side; he wins by refusing to give into his anger and kill Vader.
"The gray Jedi doesn’t make the dark side of the force taboo, but balances it." That's not really how the dark side works. The dark side is addictive. When you use it, you just want to use it more and more. "Grey Jedi" who use the dark side but in a balanced way don't really exist. Quinlan Vos tried to do this during the Clone Wars and just ended up doing a bunch of bad things and almost turned to the dark side for real. Luke even tried something similar in the non-canon Dark Empire comic, and ended up learning a similar lesson. The only possible exception seems to be Vapaad users like Mace Windu.
"For every good deed he does, there’s a cruelty he would administer in the name of justice." That's ... literally just what Jedi are supposed to do. They're peacekeepers, not pacifists. If people are in danger, a Jedi is supposed to do what is necessary to protect them. Mace Windu was ready to kill Palpatine without trial because he was too dangerous to be kept alive. Yeah, Anakin SAID it's not the Jedi way and all, but what he really cared about was saving Padme.
"It’s not about being a good Jedi, he simply reinvented the Jedi order." Sort of, but he didn't do it by becoming a Grey Jedi. The Jedi's policies of banning marriage and the fact that the corruption in the Republic ended up causing them to become overly bureaucratic as shown during TCW were problems, but Luke changing that doesn't mean he's any less of a Jedi.
Imagine mortis luke vs mortis anakin
That! That is the true me
When are you going to do a full scale on exar kun? He is way more powerful than people think him to be he is at least 2 stronger than vader
When this video gets 50k
No he isn't he scales below bane who surpassed all ancient sith and is massively stronger than him
@@scerkann3966luke would no diff anyone
Luke is the best
"MY DAD IS IN THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, AND WILL GET YOUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD ADDICTED TO CRACK" - Luke Skywalker confronting Jabba The Hutt...Probably
Luke is a very very grey Jedi
based purely on knowledge and experience, Kyle Katarn is far wiser than Luke. But still they are very similar, and the New Jedi Order is basically Luke's private company so yea. Katarn and Luke shaped the modern Jedi doctrine, promoting love instead of denying it like the old Order, which cost them weakened, stale and destroyed. Luke makes sure love is based on compassion and altruism, avoiding selfishness and arrogance that caused his father's fall. And through strong empathetic bonds of a Jedi to his/her friends, family and those under their cape, Jedi to Jedi, their powers are amplified much greater than the olds. Katarn, on the other hand, teaches the Jedi what was it like to be in darkness, how hard was it to protect their souls from the call of darkness, using both dark and light arts in equal measure with a cold mind and a warm heart. There should be a video about Katarn too, this guy's journey is perhaps as beautiful than as Luke's.
Tbh, Katarn is not really that important for NJO, they never showed him being anything more than just one of Order's masters. They made Katarn a part of Luke's Order in 2000's after making multiple stories about Luke's jedi, this is why Corran Horn is Luke's right-hand man, not Katarn. During Yuuzhan-Vong War more than half of the jedi listened to Kyp Durron, others listened to Luke, Katarn had no influence whatsoever.
I mean, anyone carrying a lightsaber's obviously gonna be willing to kill someone.
I love you
Do palpatine
He's killed millions
The luke Skywalker that exar kun defeated is estate to be 2 times more powerful and skilled than the luke Skywalker in dark empire luke learned dark side abilities from both papaltine reborn and exar kun who he copy an ability to incinerated people from inside
Dude grandmaster Luke is so much more powerful than Anakin at his peak before turning to the dark side and it’s not even close. The Abeloth argument isn’t valid, she’s more powerful than the son and the daughter hence it taking both of them to beat her. Luke could take her and you can’t honestly say Anakin in the clone wars could have done the same
Luke isn't on Abeloth's level, though, nor is Abeloth at the level she was operating on during pre-historic times in FOTJ, nor even during her prime was she sufficiently powerful to utterly subdue the Son and Daughter in the same way Anakin did, and infact, we KNOW she wasn't, because she lost/fled from the Father, who Anakin had to the potential to equal or surpass.
@papapalps2415 anakin was only able to do that on mortis force nexus, without it he would needed over 40+ of training like luke Skywalker to reach that much power, and still wouldn't be enough to defeat her abeloth in the EU got more powerful with time
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Yes, he did indeed do so on Mortis. The problem is, the entire point of the arc is that Anakin is supposes to have the potential power to replace the Father (I.E., become either his equal or surpass him). Note, Anakin. Not Anakin, plus a gargantuan Force nexus. The Father makes this clear repeatedly.
And lul no, Abeloth very much did not get stronger over time. She, in actual fact, got vastly weaker, as we know back in the pre-Republic era she was able to assimilate entire planets under her thumb, which we know increases her power.
We have to get a Legends sith ranking from strongest to weakest, or mabey of all time. Including legends and canon.
Why? It’s either going to be viciate, palpy, or jacen. Personally I’m on team Viciate, even if I have no idea how to spell his name.
@@hitandruncommentor Vader Claps
Canon has no Sith that are cannon specific all Cannon has is the Rule of Two Sith which are the exact same in Legends other then Vader and Sidious being slightly different in terms of story but there would be little point
@The Great One don't know who lord Skywalker is, is that Cade Skywalker or do you mean Jacen Solo? As for kyrat and kun, kun was strong for his time but not so much later. As for Kyrat I never read the comics, wish I did but didn't and I refuse to support Disney until kk is gone so I'm waiting off on them.
@The Great One Thanks. As for Krayt, almost forgot about him, well did forget his name. Legacy of the force series was such a mess and I kinda wiped it from my memory; thought he was the sith from Cade Skywalker's comics. But yeah thanks for shaking my memory, given Krayt was stated numerous times to be almost as powerful as GM Luke, who was stronger than Darth Jacen (his sith name is stupid and hard to spell) whom was stated to be stronger or equal to palps who is stated to be strong than all previous sith which included Vitiate even if Vitiate hadn't been written yet, yep that would make Krayt the strongest.
Don't they say this about ever jedi?
not gonna matter soon by the looks of everything. Everyones gonna be a rey if shown long enough
What does EU mean? I’ve only watched the films and shows. Never the books. So interested.
EU is extended universe. It includes the comics also known as Star Wars Legends
This just gets ridiculous. When do these people get the time to master all of these arts and powers?
How many storm trooper would it take to kill luke skywalker eu .
1.100
2.1000
3.10000
4.1quadrlion
5.none
Yes
@@connernickerson5509 OK so how many do you think would it take to kill luke . I personally think either 1 quadrillion or none.
None
A quadrillion is a fucking stupid huge number, lul. They simply would literally drown him. Although of course, being creative, he could also feasibly just find a way off the planet the stormies are all on and then just abuse his wide application Force abilities over the course of a few days from a safe distance, lul.
@@papapalps2415 What if there is a planet big enough for 1 quadrillion stormtroopers what would happen then in a battle . I personally think that he would be able to win since he has force pushed an entire yuzhan vong army with ease.
my daddy seth sent me here
kylo ren next????
Not my cup of tea
Insert Tchalla's "We don't do that here" @@CRISIS_COMICS😂