2022 Range Rover vs 2010 Range Rover // Luxury Meets Liability

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2022
  • The brand new 2022 Range Rover P530 First Edition ($199,070 as specced in Canada, $176,175 in the US) and the 2010 Range Rover HSE LUX ($19,995 in Canada) are two potential routes that a Range Rover buyer could take. But does the P530 twin turbo V8, 530 horsepower output, and loads of luxury and tech in the new gen win out? Or is the attractive price, classic style, and…ahem… reliability of the older L322 generation enough to win you over?
    Thomas and James bumble down the road in both the new and old Range Rover, discussing which of the two they would choose, and how the new one compares to its competition. We hope you enjoy the episode! Thanks for watching! SUBSCRIBE!
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  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 Před rokem +1194

    My old man always used to tell me, "if you couldn't afford to buy it new, you probably can't afford to run it second hand."
    Good advice that I chose to ignore on a bunch of occasions

    • @scott8934
      @scott8934 Před rokem +65

      I can’t afford to buy any new car so take that

    • @petkokrushev3840
      @petkokrushev3840 Před rokem +39

      Just because you can buy it, doesn't mean you can afford it!

    • @adz260689
      @adz260689 Před rokem +64

      100% my old man used to say, you can't afford the range rover, Porsche or Ferrari if you have to ask how many mpg it does.

    • @dalaanibombina8822
      @dalaanibombina8822 Před rokem +1

      @@scott8934 🤣

    • @spicysnowman8886
      @spicysnowman8886 Před rokem +21

      That's just not true car that was 40k new, might cost 15k in 10 years, it won't cost 25k to maintain.

  • @jamesmcnamara6225
    @jamesmcnamara6225 Před rokem +818

    As the addict/owner of multiple older Land Rovers/Range Rovers, this video couldn't be more spot on. The online forums are more of a support group..we sadly know what we're getting in to but can't stop. The good news is they depreciate as if they're falling out of an airplane..deals everywhere! :)

    • @agnesf2659
      @agnesf2659 Před rokem +28

      My father used to love an XJ6 but couldn’t afford it. Do you think it a good idea for me to get one used and have it restored from some mechanic for my father’s next birthday?
      I just don’t know how much it could cost me on top of the used car price and thus haven’t pulled the trigger.

    • @andrewpeterson1698
      @andrewpeterson1698 Před rokem +27

      @@agnesf2659 absolutely do it

    • @80PercentAshamedOfU
      @80PercentAshamedOfU Před rokem +30

      Sounds like BMW forums, especially for older models lol

    • @ngarumurray
      @ngarumurray Před rokem +2

      This is hilarious

    • @wlt3585
      @wlt3585 Před rokem +11

      @@agnesf2659 If you have the means that sounds like an absolutely wonderful gift. Hell, if your dad's a car guy he might even appreciate you getting him on the restoration process

  • @qasimansari7540
    @qasimansari7540 Před rokem +34

    I bought a supercharged (400hp) L322, 2005 for £3995 from a private seller. Pristine condition, like new. Sure, it's old, but you still feel like the King of the Road and it is a magnificent car. Such a joy to drive. Last service only needed new brake pads. You just need to shop around for the best ones.

  • @mahfoodhmusallami835
    @mahfoodhmusallami835 Před rokem +39

    I have a Range Rover P38 (1995-2001), the last with a Rover V8 engine, and a body on frame setup. I've had it for nearly 3 years now, but had not put many miles on it because it's been busy collecting dust between different mechanics and shops, I still love the way it looks, but it's been a one way love thus far.

  • @scottleyva8656
    @scottleyva8656 Před rokem +417

    The interior of the older one is still magnificent, especially with the seat piping.

    • @amal6419
      @amal6419 Před rokem +14

      Yes. Cannot believe they lost the piping in the new one

    • @ARKAEA33
      @ARKAEA33 Před rokem +4

      @@amal6419 I mean the higher trims have multicolored seats with all sorts of cool detailing now

  • @alpenjodel24
    @alpenjodel24 Před rokem +557

    god PLEASE never change your humor, as well as your honesty and unbiased opinions in your reviews. love it.

  • @jasrajpal7503
    @jasrajpal7503 Před rokem +232

    This is bordering on the perfect car review. Funny, completely factual, without bias and with talented commentary throughout. Thoroughly, throughly enjoyable from start to finsih. Well done fellas.

  • @trevorgunn6993
    @trevorgunn6993 Před rokem +26

    I let out a laugh so loud with the “Michael Caine” joke 😂 These guys are great

    • @hotsky83
      @hotsky83 Před rokem +1

      Same! Best part of the video

  • @ravirajyaguru6849
    @ravirajyaguru6849 Před rokem +1590

    This video has the same vibe as that episode from The Grand Tour where Jeremy, James and Richard try and defend the Jags and say all the nice things about them despite failing miserably.
    Love your work guys !!!

    • @tenpoundburrito
      @tenpoundburrito Před rokem +46

      How about the oldish Top Gear episode where Jeremy got a Range Rover to drive across South America, and it made it whereas the Land Cruiser Hammond brought kept breaking down?

    • @jesperhald3969
      @jesperhald3969 Před rokem +14

      These two guys are way more entertaining and trustworthy than the three clowns in TopGear!

    • @landrover5386
      @landrover5386 Před rokem +44

      @@jesperhald3969 nah

    • @Frank-li8uj
      @Frank-li8uj Před rokem +26

      @@jesperhald3969 nah

    • @danebachmeier7867
      @danebachmeier7867 Před rokem

      I agree, trying testing out off road.

  • @chupacabra377
    @chupacabra377 Před rokem +751

    These guys are living the life and I'm here to witness it. Love these longer more laid back and thorough videos.

    • @jakecaldwell3619
      @jakecaldwell3619 Před rokem

      @Utkarsh Dharmadhikari By following trades do you mean copying her trades,as its done in etoro? Are you giving her your money or the money stays on your account? I have heard about copying trades but have not looked into it but I have an idea of what it is.

    • @georgewilliam9978
      @georgewilliam9978 Před rokem

      @Utkarsh Dharmadhikari I'm glad you advised to look her name online to see her portfolio,this is very important, making your own research is very essential. Thank you so much.

    • @davidbrown1005
      @davidbrown1005 Před rokem

      Exactly, money is always eager and ready to work for anyone who is ready to employ it.

    • @lorddoobsworth144
      @lorddoobsworth144 Před rokem +7

      Just a non scam-bot here, don't mind me 👀

    • @honza2755
      @honza2755 Před rokem +1

      Longer videos from them are great

  • @ryanwilliams6559
    @ryanwilliams6559 Před rokem +33

    The L322 to get is the 2006-2009 model with the 4.2 that doesn't suffer from the timing chain guides issue. Mine is going to hit 300,000km soon.

    • @keving3703
      @keving3703 Před 2 měsíci

      I agree from my experience. I just had a 2006 with the 4.4l (yours was a 4.4 if it was the base na V8 btw) and sold it to a friend, but it's pushing 360000km's with no powertrain issues at all. Purrs like a cat with the jag engine, shifts great, lots of power especially in the mid and upper end, and returns reasonable fuel economy on road trips of around 12l/100kms. Super comfort and style with some nice tech, and features, and great stereo! The issues are electronic and air suspension related typically. Also a really good off roadable/poor weather vehicle if you actually require one. And has towing ability. If it's good enough for the queen it's good enough for me lol!

  • @BladeDoomer86
    @BladeDoomer86 Před rokem +31

    Top notch production, guys.... Truly a spiritual successor to TG, with excellent humor and fun thrown in. Keep it up, we'll keep watching ;)

  • @JorgeRivera-vr8ms
    @JorgeRivera-vr8ms Před rokem +608

    James had me dying when he said “you can’t notice the taillights until their lit; I have friends like that” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @ko-Daegu
      @ko-Daegu Před rokem +5

      I didn't get it

    • @RandomRads
      @RandomRads Před rokem

      They will not notice the problems unless their ass is on fire.

    • @unphazd5137
      @unphazd5137 Před rokem +54

      Means he has some friends that you don't notice them or they have low key personalities until they get drunk and loud lol

    • @knowledgeiskey4087
      @knowledgeiskey4087 Před rokem +1

      @@unphazd5137 Yeah

    • @esdeekay4344
      @esdeekay4344 Před rokem

      Hahaha!

  • @OzarksWildman
    @OzarksWildman Před rokem +349

    James is really cracking some good jokes in this one 😂

    • @demon1spence
      @demon1spence Před rokem +35

      You don't notice them until they're lit. I've got friends like that. off the cuff.

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 Před rokem +21

      Michael Cane…..rofl.

    • @Aiphares
      @Aiphares Před rokem +5

      @@demon1spence you can see by the reaction that that line definitely was off script :D

    • @Rob165x
      @Rob165x Před rokem +1

      @@kraenk12 The way he said it, sounded like "my cocaine". Unless that went over my head, it's a good use for a mirror lol

  • @slimupb
    @slimupb Před rokem +3

    I had a lot of fun with the intro. Thank you guys for your classy work, hopa you will be keeping This format for a long time

  • @jordanzlad
    @jordanzlad Před rokem +12

    I'm a land rover mechanic and can confirm they blow up all the time, even the new ones have a lot of problems but they are nice when they are working.

    • @Sasasala386
      @Sasasala386 Před rokem +3

      They are a joke here in Brasil, there's not a single car workshop that deals with high end car's that don't have a rover with a blown turbo in it.

    • @jordanzlad
      @jordanzlad Před rokem +3

      @@Sasasala386 from my workshop alone we replace and sell long bare 3L turbo engines the most that are in discoveries and the sports and we probable sell close to 150 of them a year not a good statistic and thats just one engine they sell in their range. And they legitimately snap the crank In half.

    • @Sasasala386
      @Sasasala386 Před rokem

      @@jordanzlad I've heard it once don't know if it's true. They make too much power for parts that are not string enough to handle it.

    • @jordanzlad
      @jordanzlad Před rokem +1

      @@Sasasala386 its usually run away, bad injectors, bad turbo or low oil pressure. its usually a snapped crank or a spun bearing I haven't seen many throw a rod through the block but I have seen them. its also because of the bi sequential turbo setup the 2.7L engine which I have is way better single big turbo mine is 2006 tuned in the engine and gearbox and goes better than the new 2022 3L setups

  • @MambaMentality24
    @MambaMentality24 Před rokem +264

    I’ve put over 100k miles on my 2010 Autobiography and still absolutely love it. Bought it in 2017 with 100k and just turned over 200k. So many features and comforts that people are still surprised existed back then. Digital gauge cluster, radar cruise control, blindspot monitoring, heated/cooled front and rear seats, reclining rear seats, 5 cameras, leather headliner, the list goes on. And it comes with classic Range Rover styling that was partially lost starting with the L405.

    • @qazzaq8763
      @qazzaq8763 Před rokem +47

      That reads like an ad you'd see on AutoTrader 😁

    • @MambaMentality24
      @MambaMentality24 Před rokem +34

      @@qazzaq8763 well, I used to do automotive consulting so…

    • @12pagani
      @12pagani Před rokem +12

      I must ask about your maintenance experience with your autobiography, I've seen the older versions and the sport models for really good money considering all the equipment they come with

    • @MambaMentality24
      @MambaMentality24 Před rokem +67

      @@12pagani I put a decent amount of money into maintenance shortly after I bought it, which has made the rest of my ownership a lot less worrisome. I did the timing chains, variators, water pump, all injectors, plugs and everything to get the engine sealed back up about 6 months after I bought it. 2 air suspension compressors, alternator, fan clutch, transmission filter along with other smaller repairs over the years. All fluids changed many times over. I’m the second owner and the original owner maintained it through the dealer up until I bought it. I do all the work myself and that’s the only way to own these. No way I would have paid what the dealer wanted for some of these repairs. A Gap iiD tool is a must as well if you plan to work on it yourself.

    • @Michael_Gray
      @Michael_Gray Před rokem +19

      You left out the part that you’re living in it now 😂 lol jk glad yours has treated you well

  • @michaelh.1627
    @michaelh.1627 Před rokem +174

    You guys just keep getting funnier and funnier! Never thought I could be so entertained by car reviews but you’ve proved me wrong over and over. “I have friends like that” lol

  • @ericbhurt
    @ericbhurt Před rokem +4

    I’m upset it ended. Then I realize it was a 30 minute video. You two give amazing commentary.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 Před rokem +8

    I worked in Land Rover service for six years and I can definitely say. When they work , there’s no better:)

  • @Joftaky
    @Joftaky Před rokem +110

    Love how laid back the reviews are, like two everyday car enthusiasts (most of us feel we fit in this category, so we can totally relate) having a chat about a car they’ve just acquired. Love your channel!

  • @LigmaDonuts
    @LigmaDonuts Před rokem +318

    The 2010-2012 L322 is my favorite gen Range Rover. I just love the more boxy shape, and it still felt like a luxury utilitarian vehicle. The new ones just feel luxurious.

    • @gidd
      @gidd Před rokem +12

      Luxury you would never get to experience while it's at the shop

    • @princep7348
      @princep7348 Před rokem +20

      @@gidd only if you use your car like an animal, if you treat and drive your range rover with care you won't spend much

    • @Dave_the_Detailer
      @Dave_the_Detailer Před rokem +5

      Agreed, the doors feel better when you close them. Don’t care for the soft close. Everything in general has better weight and feel in the l322

    • @zazatv6822
      @zazatv6822 Před rokem

      Lx 600 Lexus on 🔥 🔥 🔥

    • @huleyn135
      @huleyn135 Před rokem +4

      @@princep7348 you don't believe this

  • @Sheeezus
    @Sheeezus Před rokem +1

    Genuinely, the writing/dialogue on your videos is slicker and funnier than any other car reviewers - minimalist design to not stand-out to the lower classes is just hilarious!

  • @jchill5229
    @jchill5229 Před rokem +4

    Your broken-down skit at the beginning got an immediate thumbs-up. THANK YOU GUYS.

  • @MrGodspeed182
    @MrGodspeed182 Před rokem +604

    Just because a Tesla is expensive, it doesn’t make it a luxury vehicle.

    • @Josh-oc7ib
      @Josh-oc7ib Před rokem +15

      expense has to be in tandem with practicality
      if it’s expensive because it’s gold plated, that makes it a luxury

    • @shellyraghuvanshi3347
      @shellyraghuvanshi3347 Před rokem +30

      @@Josh-oc7ib then Ford Maverick is ultimate luxury vehicle 🤣

    • @betterbeavailable
      @betterbeavailable Před rokem +49

      Tesla looks horrible (especially X) and is boring as h*ll. Generic car of the "future" nobody really wants.

    • @roshanprabu
      @roshanprabu Před rokem +26

      @@betterbeavailable "nobody wants" lmao
      just because you have a bad taste dosen't mean its bad lol

    • @betterbeavailable
      @betterbeavailable Před rokem +37

      @@roshanprabu You want a future with completely silent cars with dependence on government power grid, slow charging, and complete tracking and remote shutdown capability? Careful what you wish for, might come true.

  • @CruiseControl1
    @CruiseControl1 Před rokem +197

    My brother has a white Range Rover in his garage. With an engine on the side because the original engine blew. It looks great in the garage though, like a life size paperweight.

    • @LorenzoCalgaryRealtor
      @LorenzoCalgaryRealtor Před rokem +1

      Which motor ?

    • @CruiseControl1
      @CruiseControl1 Před rokem +8

      @@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor OK so here are the details it is actually a white Land Rover discovery with blown rings 4.0L and the engine that’s going in is from a 1995 Range Rover 4.2L.

    • @gidd
      @gidd Před rokem +1

      @@CruiseControl1 what year is it

    • @WranglermanLevi
      @WranglermanLevi Před rokem +5

      @@CruiseControl1 yea, that makes way more sense the old buick V8 used in the 90's and 2000's were known for headgasket failure, then piston liners slipping. Disco's, RR, all had it . If you could keep the cooling system functional, they were otherwise pretty good tho. Top hat rebuild is the only way to truly resolve the issue after you've had a severe overheat or find a different powerplant like an LS swap. The Jag 4.4 used on the 2006-2009 models LR3, RR Sport and RR are actually quite reliable and are known to easily go 200k miles plus without issue. The 2010's and up got the 5.0 plagued with timing chain guide failure. I'd personally avoid those. The new ones sure look sweet but getting quite complicated and expensive for my tastes. Earlier Land Rover vehicles while require more attention and maintenance than a Toyota are actually very, very nice vehicles and capable off road too.

    • @h7pubg
      @h7pubg Před rokem

      @@WranglermanLevi yes, the jaguar 4.2 variants in the range rovers are actually amazing engines, you see those engines in cars with well over 200k all the time.

  • @NovieBigSad
    @NovieBigSad Před rokem +3

    Unfathomable that such high quality content is free. Thank You!

  • @STsixx
    @STsixx Před rokem

    Genuinely the best car channel on YT. I’m not even remotely a car expert, but this is just always fun to watch. ❤

  • @EconomicsMate1
    @EconomicsMate1 Před rokem +63

    We need a 2022 BMW M3 vs 1990 BMW M3 E30 comparison. Let's make it happen! Great video as always Thomas and James

    • @Gooseman2k2
      @Gooseman2k2 Před rokem +11

      unfortunately... you need a blindfold just to gaze upon the new M3 without seriously damaging your retinas

    • @theoneandonlybosable
      @theoneandonlybosable Před rokem +1

      The difference is most of the old/new videos are about value. The E30 is not a good value.

    • @omnihein9322
      @omnihein9322 Před rokem

      @@theoneandonlybosable you are forgetting about the supra video.

    • @EconomicsMate1
      @EconomicsMate1 Před rokem

      @@theoneandonlybosable was just gonna say, the mk iv vs mk v video. Doesn't have to be cheap vs new. But new vs old.

    • @EconomicsMate1
      @EconomicsMate1 Před rokem +1

      @@Gooseman2k2 oh yea def agree 😂

  • @mwendwandambuki6659
    @mwendwandambuki6659 Před rokem +35

    I really loved this one. It was so calm and laid back. Kinda like watching two friends drive about discussing their new cars. The 30 minutes didn't even feel like 30 minutes. Great episode guys!

  • @DK78518
    @DK78518 Před rokem +9

    Ok I hate commenting on videos but here it is. I am genuinely entertained by you guys. I love watching car shows and has been a car review guy since I was a kid. Some of the jokes you guys make are hilarious and clever. Congratulations on reaching the level appropriately being entertaining while reviewing the car appropriately. I obviously cannot say you guys are close to Top Gear or any of the other TV shows because they have huge budgets but appropriately so you guys are just as entertaining.

  • @ahmadflemming9041
    @ahmadflemming9041 Před rokem +4

    I have a supercharge 5.0 2018 and it’s been nothing but wonderful. Loads of power and Lux. I did have an issue with the front right air bag but it’s been resolved and the car has been great ever since. Best all around suv you can purchase.

  • @tenpoundburrito
    @tenpoundburrito Před rokem +28

    That checklist of things to look over before buying actually seems like solid advice no matter the vehicle. I look over most of those no matter what kind of vehicle I'm thinking of buying and keep a checklist of about a hundred things to check whenever I need to purchase or help someone purchase a vehicle. It takes at least an hour to examine one properly, unless it's new of course.
    Who wouldn't check things like the radio, steering, shift smoothness, seats, oil quality, and windows before buying a vehicle, whether a Land Rover, Ford, Toyota, or Holden? It's a big purchase, and it's good to know what works and what doesn't to help make a decision on whether or not it's worth buying.
    A lot of people will just assume "Oh, it's a Toyota/Honda, so everything must work because nothing goes wrong with them." Yes, I have actually heard people say that. One I know even went and bought a twelve-year-old Toyota 4Runner just because it ran so, therefore, it must be good because. . . Toyota, right? It died a horrible death on the side of the road a little over a year and many repairs later. He drives a fourteen-year-old Lincoln SUV now, and it's been much, much, much more reliable. Four years and hasn't broken anything yet, despite being used the same way.

    • @mordie31
      @mordie31 Před rokem

      2004 Holden Statesman to be exact ;-)

  • @yousefdeeb01
    @yousefdeeb01 Před rokem +17

    You guys are wild, your videos are unique in every way and your sarcasm is on other level. I started watching you guys since you had less than 78k subscribers, and look at you now with the 2 million subscribers. I hope you continue to succeed and surpass 10 million subscribers.

  • @trevorgunn6993
    @trevorgunn6993 Před rokem

    “You don’t notice them until they’re lit. I have friends like that” 🤣🤣 Well done 👏🏾

  • @simonfowler7561
    @simonfowler7561 Před rokem +2

    Love this review guys. I worked 12 years for the Land Rover company in Solihull and I always LOVED the RR. Thanks!!!

  • @erte001
    @erte001 Před rokem +16

    Thomas and James are the perfect balance of humor and information and test drives.

  • @ZRaddue
    @ZRaddue Před rokem +6

    These old vs new comparison videos are my favorite format that you do and what absolutely hooked me on your content. Love it!

  • @robloxdude7564
    @robloxdude7564 Před rokem +8

    Considering the price of these cars, its weird to see at least 15 of them per day.

  • @koonuoahu7080
    @koonuoahu7080 Před rokem +1

    Both entertaining & informative, thank you guys ! I'm able to identify with what was said for the HSE as i have a first generation 2009 BMW X6 myself. Everything being as fair as they are, if one makes the effort to maintain both the mechanical & aesthetics of the vehicle, albeit & especially the older models, they'll deliver the joy of driving & motoring much more than ever one might expect.

  • @Offensivebeast
    @Offensivebeast Před rokem +223

    I’ve always loved the L322, personally my favorite Range Rover generation, even though it’s arguably the most problematic, in Ireland I still see tons of them on the road and even being used off road as much as I see them being used as grocery getters, they are addictive vehicles, I can’t imagine myself even looking at any of its competitors.

    • @papagen00
      @papagen00 Před rokem +5

      I think the L322 looks very dated now..

    • @Offensivebeast
      @Offensivebeast Před rokem +13

      @@papagen00 many would disagree, such a strong following for the L322 exits a lot because of its looks, however the interior id agree is on the dated side, but it’s still quite a nice place to be.

    • @sprezzatura8755
      @sprezzatura8755 Před rokem +13

      I've had an L322 and a G Wagon. Much prefer the L322.

    • @jaioncebollero1168
      @jaioncebollero1168 Před rokem +4

      @@papagen00 ppl think e46’s look dated but it’s widely agreed they still look good. This is a similar situation, your an outliner. This gen is a very handsome suv, much better than the new one.

    • @jiimmiij4428
      @jiimmiij4428 Před rokem +3

      @@jaioncebollero1168 dated automatically doesn’t mean look bad. Bug veyron looks dated but still looks great + e46 is peak bmw design

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 Před rokem +16

    That intro is so funny 😂👍👍

  • @lesserafimseason
    @lesserafimseason Před rokem

    Throttle House reviews are so good, I keep coming back and watching all the new videos!

  • @alanincentraljersey
    @alanincentraljersey Před rokem

    I’ve been watching your reviews for a couple months as I’m looking for a new car. Your reviews are great and your humor (yes I’m in America) is awesome.

  • @bradenmiller1517
    @bradenmiller1517 Před rokem +8

    this vid made me so happy because I have a 2010 hse and it has 176,000 miles and feels strong still. Considering I've raced it and been off-roading. Love yall.

  • @Mattman284
    @Mattman284 Před rokem +35

    Great looking SUV! It's amazing how Land Rover has made an unreliable SUV so iconic.

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 Před rokem +1

    “It’s a siren of a car” hahaha perfect! 👌

  • @josephvictor4788
    @josephvictor4788 Před rokem

    Where has this channel been all along....you just earned yourself a new subscriber 😁

  • @RennyChan
    @RennyChan Před rokem +8

    Love how the first thing that shows up on old one when they turned it on after they talked about everything that could go wrong… “Service Required”

  • @andrewdavis6226
    @andrewdavis6226 Před rokem +6

    Nicely balanced review chaps. I had a 4.4V8 diesel 2010 Range Rover for a couple of years and loved every minute of the 20k miles I did in it.

  • @klarkqent
    @klarkqent Před rokem +64

    My father has had 3 range rovers and I can confirm their unreliablity. Gone through head gaskets on 2, a transmissions, 2 sets of air suspension, 2 radiators

    • @voldyriddle3337
      @voldyriddle3337 Před rokem +2

      in how long though?

    • @klarkqent
      @klarkqent Před rokem +4

      @@voldyriddle3337 the first one went through a set of head gaskets in a year, the 2nd took 3yrs

    • @Slainself
      @Slainself Před rokem +2

      Now they have worked on the issues for the newer models

    • @JustinBenn
      @JustinBenn Před rokem +9

      @@Slainself you get more issues for your money, now?

    • @Slainself
      @Slainself Před rokem +4

      @@JustinBenn can u afford one? Lmao

  • @herkamer98
    @herkamer98 Před rokem +2

    I owned an '07 Land Rover and it nearly nickel-and-dimed me to death, worst of was the "Three Amigos" engine failure. It was one single device that managed the ABS brakes,traction control and hill descent. Plus a dozen other little things. I swear I (eventually) put as much into keeping it running as I did buying it. Not to mention it was designed for a much smaller person.

  • @foxrower
    @foxrower Před rokem +11

    As a 2002 P38 RR owner, this is spot on. You got to love it, because there will be a lot to fix. However my truck has over 225k miles and going strong (and not with the original engine...)

  • @crybabyteamo
    @crybabyteamo Před rokem +49

    I remember when the last gen RR (the one in between these two shown in the video) first came out, I went to see it at the car show in Toronto. As I sat in the SUV the first thing the sales told me, with such pride, is "It's all leather, 17 cows died for this car." Then went on to say the upholstery in the non-autobiography version is not leather, therefore only 14 cows. How times have changed!

    • @PhilDaBank
      @PhilDaBank Před rokem +12

      Rich people love sitting in blood of capitalism

    • @XVXC-M8
      @XVXC-M8 Před rokem

      @@PhilDaBank You make shit decisions in life now you are whining about people richer than you.

    • @JStryker7
      @JStryker7 Před rokem +20

      @@PhilDaBank nothing wrong with it. They were going to die anyways and people get paid so they can support themselves and their family

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee Před rokem +18

      You get leather and steaks and burgers and bbq. That is a multitasking animal.

    • @LorenzoCalgaryRealtor
      @LorenzoCalgaryRealtor Před rokem +1

      I saw the L405 when it came out also. I couldn’t help but notice how cheap the door close felt. And the door handle. And the screens were EXTREMELY SLOW and laggy.

  • @AyeTari
    @AyeTari Před rokem

    I'm so glad you boys made the whole "Michael Caine" reference when you found that mirror. Hahaha

  • @Vikturus22
    @Vikturus22 Před rokem +31

    im not a huge range rover fan. I do like how they ride tho ( insert old man memes here ) drove my boss's 2019 one a year ago and it was amazing ride and comfort wise.

  • @iamthelaw69
    @iamthelaw69 Před rokem +57

    I have a Jag F-Type that's thankfully relatively reliable, and I have a shop that I go to for maintenance, a shop specifically working on British marques. Whenever I go, I always see a ton of Land Rovers, outnumbering any other car there 9 to 1. I ask the shop owner what's with the disparity, and he says, in his words, "These Land Rovers spend more time at my shop than in their owners' garages." He's just calling it as he saw it.

    • @judygillespie3717
      @judygillespie3717 Před rokem +7

      Just a fact of life. My dad had a disco for 10 years and I think it needed repairs every other week. No idea how he had the patience but it just became like the screw up younger son who’s in an out of rehab but the parents never give up on 👁👄👁

    • @attananightshadow
      @attananightshadow Před rokem

      jag and Range Rover are about as British as butter chicken and chutney now.

  • @JakeSoulFreeTravels
    @JakeSoulFreeTravels Před rokem +35

    I owned a 2012 SC Range Rover and it'll probably be the greatest vehicle I have or will ever own. Just watching this changes how my blood feels as I miss it deeply. If you know, you know. As I was reading when I purchases and other owners had their issues, they said how much it broke down n yada, but they would still do it all over again. The last of the true Range Rovers with it classic boxey recognisable design. Man, it was absolute love....although offroading this beast with 20 inch wheels...ehhh. lol I can't tell you how desperately I miss it. Long live the L322, it was the greatest they have or will ever make.

    • @URHYNS
      @URHYNS Před rokem +4

      Agree. I just got into a 2013 Supercharged 5L V8 L320 Sport. Magnificent vehicle.

    • @styxray1418
      @styxray1418 Před rokem +2

      yes 4.2 and 5.0 sc is better.

    • @rivstg13
      @rivstg13 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I bought mine 18 months ago with 129k miles on it (2012 SC model). No breakage or unreliability and really enjoying it )

    • @JakeSoulFreeTravels
      @JakeSoulFreeTravels Před 5 měsíci

      @@rivstg13 You have balls mate, or some deep pockets or got a rare find or did some crazy homework...

    • @rivstg13
      @rivstg13 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@JakeSoulFreeTravels yeah I did research and found one that previous owner had records showing the servicing it received( though it has a rebranded title due to theft )…& that gave me the confidence to purchase

  • @nicholasjacksonke808
    @nicholasjacksonke808 Před 8 měsíci

    You guys are amazing 😂 😂 I'm so embarrassed to realize I've been watching all year without subscribing 😂 my apologies

  • @beau_croom
    @beau_croom Před 9 měsíci

    5:17 “the taillights R hidden, U don’t notice them until their lit. I have friends like that” 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭 quite possibly the BEST THING I EVER HEARD 😂😂😂😂

  • @Kalepsis
    @Kalepsis Před rokem +4

    Guys... Cammisa said on yesterday's Carmudgeon that he wants to bring you guys out to California to race Kei cars on a go-kart track. DO IT. Your viewers deserve that video.

  • @nathanmetus2989
    @nathanmetus2989 Před rokem +2

    Remember a short period when Jeremy and the boys had the correct balance of car review vs comedic entertainment … and then they got too silly?! These guys have it figured out. Amazing content. Thank you gents.

  • @ThePuffin77
    @ThePuffin77 Před rokem +7

    I personally like the exterior look of the older model. It looks more rugged. I think the previous gen still looks like a good in between all this time later.

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Před 10 měsíci

      Same, it also looks a lot easier to use. I hate putting everything on a touch screen.

  • @MatataMatata
    @MatataMatata Před rokem

    I had to laugh when he said the desert while showing a maize field. Great show, i love it.

  • @bonafidesmooth
    @bonafidesmooth Před rokem +5

    Thomas fighting with the armrest was hilarious 🤣

  • @shanehalteman1864
    @shanehalteman1864 Před rokem +4

    Love the witty humor in the introduction😂 these guys are great

  • @anthonydavis7151
    @anthonydavis7151 Před rokem

    I definitely loved your video and definitely end notes you really get the new with the old because of you and your taste and tolerance for the unknown based on your ability to afford it if the what if applies.
    Thanks for all that you guys do 😜

  • @allthingstoallmen8912

    "You don't notice them until they're lit, I have friends like that"... Brilliant delivery Lad😂

  • @Michael_2020
    @Michael_2020 Před rokem +3

    Best intro ever! First 3 minutes had me dying. Now I need to watch the rest lol!

  • @anthonywalters7434
    @anthonywalters7434 Před rokem +37

    My dad bought a 2022 evoque and I told him half jokingly that it’d be in the shop in a month. Three weeks later it had to go in for a suspension issue…

    • @spicysnowman8886
      @spicysnowman8886 Před rokem +1

      That's par for the course, my moms 2022 highlander had to go in for a wind noise with a bad design on a radiator bracket.

    • @anthonywalters7434
      @anthonywalters7434 Před rokem +6

      @@spicysnowman8886 yeah. Makes me happy to have a 2013 Corolla. Almost a decade old with the only flaw being the fact that it’s slow as hell

    • @spicysnowman8886
      @spicysnowman8886 Před rokem +4

      @@anthonywalters7434 I've got a 2008 bmw 328i, only had for about a month, but I love it.

    • @anthonywalters7434
      @anthonywalters7434 Před rokem

      @@spicysnowman8886 that’s awesome. Take good care of it. I’ve seen those things get built up very nicely into really fun project cars

    • @spicysnowman8886
      @spicysnowman8886 Před rokem +1

      @@anthonywalters7434 it's a manual too, so very fun, but I'll probably keep it relatively stock because it's my only car.

  • @pablos3563
    @pablos3563 Před rokem +2

    I really love this old generation RR, it's so subtle and elegant, timeless design. Yes, legendary unreliable, but still great car even now.

  • @SKLIFEstyle
    @SKLIFEstyle Před rokem +1

    I completely get Thomas..."I hate that I want one." I honestly like all the buttons. We just got a 2015 LX. Perfect plend off 1000s buttons, no turn dial, and some touch screen. But yes, old Rane interior for the win in my book.

  • @aussie2uGA
    @aussie2uGA Před rokem +43

    The hardest part of a Land Rover is just keeping them running. It will either frustrate you or bankrupt you but as they age, you’re no longer going to have a pleasant experience.

    • @commonsense8342
      @commonsense8342 Před rokem +9

      Land Rover's are notorious for their lack of reliability. There are several auto enthusiast memes about it. It's pretty awful.

    • @elitecoder955
      @elitecoder955 Před rokem

      @@jalopy2472 AUDI's too ?

  • @skream56
    @skream56 Před rokem +42

    I always love these episodes seeing the progression or stagnation and how in or out of touch brands are. One episode that should be done is Cayenne Turbo/s old vs new.

  • @1kristori
    @1kristori Před rokem

    Dude the intro is HILARIOUS

  • @lahnajohnson31
    @lahnajohnson31 Před 10 měsíci +3

    2010s Range Rovers were at the peak of its design that stayed true to its original design heritage that I feel gets lost with the newer models and I think that's why so many people still want to take a chance at owning one. I loved the boxy utilitarian look of its profile that still maintains a certain prestige and elegance while the rounded version is just giving me vibes of a early 2000s Ford Expedition. Everything else about it is beautiful and the interior is stunning, I just really dislike that they decided to go this direction for the exterior.

  • @joshmitford4450
    @joshmitford4450 Před rokem +8

    I just hope somewhere in a land far far away...James, Richard and Jeremy see this video and nod in approval that the world of car enthusiast is in good hands for the next generation. (and maybe someday we are blessed with a crossover episode)

    • @alexmalie4221
      @alexmalie4221 Před rokem +1

      Clarkson, Hammond and May will forever be legends! I'm also glad to see some people following in their footsteps.

  • @sayyedameerarkhisro1464
    @sayyedameerarkhisro1464 Před rokem +8

    Always great to see your comparison videos but I personally think that for this test, a better comparison would have been the earlier model of the generation that followed.
    Just to put into perspective as to whether you need this more refined version of the same shape.
    The newer one is similar to like iPhone 12 Pro compared to the 13 Pro. Both are similar looking but a few differences apart. Though the prices are way different. It is more like whether you want the yesteryear flagship or todays one.

  • @0DWalker0
    @0DWalker0 Před rokem

    That skeet was HILARIOUS 😂

  • @slrroman
    @slrroman Před rokem +1

    I have one of these and love it. And yes it has 147 fault codes, but always works. It's less money to maintain than my Jaguar XJS, but that is faint praise! They are both lovely. As 3rd and 4th cars they don't have to always work.

  • @lgrw660factory
    @lgrw660factory Před rokem +52

    Epic opening 🤣 Range Rover drivers have never impressed me, and I’ve seen thousands of them over the years.

    • @fredbrackely
      @fredbrackely Před rokem

      So what's unimpressive about them? I'd wager they are better mechanics than you.

    • @huleyn135
      @huleyn135 Před rokem +3

      @@fredbrackely lmao you are one arent you. The vast majority of rr owners do not do their own maintenance so yeah lmao.

  • @stephenoverstreet9898
    @stephenoverstreet9898 Před rokem +53

    I went through all of these thought processes back in January when I was looking for my current daily (2010 Range Rover HSE). Looked at the forums, personally talked with people who owned them, and even test drove them. I also was cross-shopping 1997-2007 Lexus LX’s and GX’s and test drove those too. The Lexus’s were the safe but boring choice, and also had some higher wear and a lot of deferred maintenance. The Range Rover I ended up buying was newer, had much better materials and quality, drove and rode WAY better, and just felt special to a degree Toyota could never match.
    Seven months later and I’m still very happy with my purchase. It’s not perfect, and I have had to do some maintenance on it. But it’s not maintenance I wouldn’t do on any other car. Find a good indie shop and you’ll be fine.

    • @Nauaudis4
      @Nauaudis4 Před rokem +7

      Absolutely agree with you. I've had a few different cars in the past couple years, mostly performance cars because speed is fun, but I never loved them as much as I love this car (well except for my 2008 Boxster S). It just drives so well, feels special, and makes me feel like James Bond where I could save the world and look good doing it too. I went with a 2008 Supercharged with the 4.2L. The thought of the 5.0 timing chain slapping and absolutely grenading the valve train would be just too much for me to handle, both mentally and financially. The older Jag units are pretty strong, with some minor here and there stuff. However, one thing that amazes me about this car is the community support (misery loves company?) and knowledge. I'd say it ranks up there with the Porsche crowd.
      Now, with the leather cladded elephant in the room, they're actually not unreliable if you find the right one. The Range Rover game is all about preventative maintenance, changing the oils every 5000 miles, changing the transmission and dif fluids every 50-60k miles, etc. If you do the proper preventative stuff, they're pretty solid. It's when there's a weird ticking noise, or you let the air suspension compressor just run all the time, then things get super expensive real quick, but if you can turn your own wrench and do the maintenance on them, they're not too horribly expensive or unreliable.

    • @RandR68
      @RandR68 Před rokem

      Agreed!!!! I have a 2019 HSE and I'm loving the experience!!!!!

    • @h7pubg
      @h7pubg Před rokem

      agree, this was me except in the lexus and jag sports car segment, same engine. the jaguar v8s have proved to be very reliable, have put 10k miles in under a year on mine and only needed an alternator and oil change. both our xk8 and xk have had some preventitive maintenance done however, the 4.0 needed its chains and thermostat, the 4.2 needed the thermostat, hoses for good measure also. a little preventative maintenance makes these cars bulletproof. knock on wood as always (theres a good amount in both of them so i should be good)

  • @briengakaplan-b1550
    @briengakaplan-b1550 Před rokem +12

    There’s just something about that older RR that just calls to me even knowing its reliability sucks, I really want one - somebody please make it stop 🥴😩

    • @jewlz4790
      @jewlz4790 Před rokem

      I’m in the same boat, the boxy look of it is what calls me but I get mixed reviews on them but still want to pull the trigger on one

    • @erikaarae
      @erikaarae Před rokem +1

      My 2011 sport lux stresses me out and general repairs are definitely expensive but having said that,I’m so in love with my RR. It’s 100% worth it. Amazing driving experience, beautiful vehicle

  • @CarVsCargroup
    @CarVsCargroup Před rokem

    Great review, thanks

  • @kraenk12
    @kraenk12 Před rokem +4

    That Michael Cane joke was truly next level lmao.

  • @quit4478
    @quit4478 Před rokem +7

    Love the content keep it up!!!

  • @dan725
    @dan725 Před rokem +1

    I love James’ (from throttle house) Century. So far his V12 has been dead reliable.

  • @djdokman290488
    @djdokman290488 Před rokem

    I have a 2007 supercharged Overfinch Range Rover, just passed 70k miles. It has been super reliable and bulletproof. It all comes down to maintenance and being cheap on maintenance cost. I love the new one, it would be a great addition to the garage next to the old one! 😛

  • @damoose4229
    @damoose4229 Před rokem +5

    WITHOUT A DOUBT the single best car show out there on ANY platform. Keep up the good work guys - the time and effort into the production quality shows. Thank you!

  • @doggedlydetermined7022
    @doggedlydetermined7022 Před rokem +4

    I had a 2012 L322 ATB and those badges are definitely aftermarket, though still a nice vehicle. That tan interior is brutal though, but you can get those cheaper.

  • @DoctorJezz
    @DoctorJezz Před rokem +2

    Just bought a 1012 Autobiography yesterday having listened to real wold experiences from log term users and having done well over 200,000 miles in contemporary Jags (last was the 4.2 supercharged V8 which has never had a single issue up to 170,000 miles on the engine) with no issues at all with regular maintenance - and that includes trips around the Nurburgring and Oulton Park (the last 2004 Jag needs new sills so I'm deciding what to do with it - the rest is as good as new - which still amazes me). This Range Rover looks pretty spectacular and I'm just expecting reasonably expensive maintenance as on any luxury/performance car ...so lets see how this goes. My real world experience means I'm relaxed and looking forward to not only only fun on the road, but using it as the world's largest lawnmower with a flail mower in my backyard ... luxury and mud plugging - that's what these are about ☺

  • @birdhousemediatv
    @birdhousemediatv Před rokem

    Thanks guys... very entertaining ;-) LOL

  • @andehfoosaman
    @andehfoosaman Před rokem +4

    Just need to say - my 2011 RR Sport has 160k miles and is going strong. Looks good next to the M2, as well, Thomas

  • @MrMara7hon
    @MrMara7hon Před rokem +9

    The easy solution is just to buy both so you have something to drive when the other is broken down

  • @MrSazid1
    @MrSazid1 Před rokem

    dude the way he says Yeah after breaking down ,It cracks me up every time

  • @mrtarique1
    @mrtarique1 Před 9 měsíci

    Some of your best work. Keep it up.

  • @espritdealaska
    @espritdealaska Před rokem +35

    15:49 More vehicles should come with double sun visors. My '09 Passat had them and I've missed having them in every vehicle I've had since.

    • @acesn8spa
      @acesn8spa Před rokem +4

      I had them in a mid 90s Ford Taurus and have missed them on every car since.

    • @AlexLR
      @AlexLR Před rokem +4

      The older generation range rover has double Sun visors too

    • @chualarbill
      @chualarbill Před rokem

      My 2003 Ford Excursion has them and I appreciate them whenever I am driving to work early in the morning.

    • @louiswhite4909
      @louiswhite4909 Před rokem

      I also agree, my 2002 Saab 9-5 wagon has double visors too.

  • @TimHunold
    @TimHunold Před rokem +24

    Range Rovers are surprisingly robust! I seem them go through potholes and dirty car parks often at the hands of valets. I even saw one go over a curb at the organic foods collective!

  • @rickbdatsun
    @rickbdatsun Před rokem

    Cracked me up when I saw "Brandy" by Looking Glass in the gauge cluster! 😂😂

  • @jghostgaming8035
    @jghostgaming8035 Před rokem

    Liked before the intro was over 😂😂😂👌🏾