Greenlights (and Darkness) | Matthew McConaughey | EP 150
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This episode was recorded: 12/21/2020
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Matthew McConaughey (actor, producer, and best-selling author of Greenlights) sits down with Jordan B. Peterson to talk about Matthew’s new book, his upbringing, his relationships with his mother and father, his journey to being at peace with his fame, what it’s like to play malevolent or dark characters in movies or on television, and a surprising satirical review of Greenlights.
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Show Notes:
[1:00] Jordan Peterson kicks off the conversation by asking why and how Matthew McConaughey wrote his book Greenlights.
[4:00] Matthew realized he needed to write the book himself without a ghostwriter as initially planned and dig back into his journals as a form of necessary reflection on the past.
[6:00] Matthew’s old journals revealed their common thread through all the stories, poems, and bumper stickers. That common thread was the creation of good things in life through mindset or action “Greenlights.”
[12:00] Jordan talks about his initial response after reading Matthew’s book and how his expectations were changed.
[14:00] Matthew talks about his solo trips when starting to create the structure of his book. Jordan comments that this was a book written by a celebrity that did not really focus on the traditional parts of being a celebrity (very family-focused and foundational). Matthew states, “When we were editing the book, I found that the more personal the stories became, the more relatable they seemed to become, to the human condition, and that was my hope.”
[18:00] Jordan and Matthew revisit the African trip, chasing dreams and having the same exact dream multiple times over the span of many years.
[24:00] What was the personal impact on Matthew during his trip to Africa where he got to strip away the identity we all know him for and exist as something else? Jordan comments that very often, people confuse their reputation with who they really are, and they start to act as a representation of their reputation instead of themselves; it’s an easy trap to fall into.
[22:00] Matthew discusses dealing with the pitfalls of fame. Matthew covers his changing relationship with his mother due to success.
[25:00] Jordan B. Peterson asks Matthew McConaughey about some of his acting work in True Detective and playing dark characters. “How do you play a dark role very well without letting the darkness invade you?”
[32:00] Matthew talks about the positive aspects of the sometimes tense relationship with his father and having a childhood that balanced love and hardship directed from the same people.
[37:00] Jordan and Matthew continue talking about going deeper into the psychology of a dark character like Rustin Cole on True Detective
[45:30] Matthew expanded on the short-term effects of initial fame.
[51:30] Matthew and Jordan discuss the long-term effects of fame.
[55:00] Jordan points out, “If flawed people were incapable of creativity, we would have no creativity.”
[1:03:00] How Matthew and Jordan first became friends.
[1:07:30] Matthew shares a comical review of his own book written as if Jordan was the one reviewing it.
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One of the best interviews I’ve seen. Thanks, gentlemen.
You should interview Mitch Horowitz about his new book " The Miracle Habits "
I missed you, Mr. Jordan Peterson. It's great to see you. The world needs you.
Matthew describing his attempt to understand his characters antagonist is a very good description of how shadow work can be done effectively.
Welcome back Dr. Peterson, Im so grateful your doing better physically; the world needs more men like you to speak up.
People are saying Matthew is alt- right for doing this interview when we all know that he is just plain alright, alright, alright.
I am going to subscribe to your channel based only on this one quick-witted comment so make sure that you produce!
🤣😁😀😀 Best comment of the day award 😄😊
hahaha wowowow hey now
this comment should have more likes
They said that before this interview because he won’t bend over to the left
After acting in multiple feature films Matthew Mcconaughey thought to himself what should I do next? Then it dawned on him.
"I'll write, I'll write, I'll write."
You beat me to this comment, man.
Underrated comment
To Night, To Night, To Night
Clever comment
OH snap CodPast! love your videos
These are the kind of conversations I yearn for in my own life. It’s nice to see they can be had.
Haha, me, too. I like you. Ditto and snap.
Likewise.
I have a girlfriend, and we will talk 4 - 6 - maybe 8 hours at time.
Jordan's interviews of diverse people feed my intellect and my soul.
Thank you, Dr Peterson!
@toolboxtidbits5674 Jeez how do you work and eat and sleep 😆 🤣
Same
Two deep and thoughtful gentlemen sharing a fantastic conversation with the world. Also love that genuine, almost moving, mutual respect and appreciation expressed especially at the end.
Indeed, very moving. Was a fantastic convo.
Totally Agree!!
All I see is another pseudo intellectual hollywood moron trying to position himself for a political run and ingratiate himself to the people he'll screw over the minute he gets to D.C. - thankfully his experiment about running for office didn't go anywhere.
Yes. Such a pleasure to see
I knew when this popped up on my feed, it was going to be so good because of these two. GOLD!
Dr Peterson is looking better, I'm happy for him.
And for us.
Looks like Martin Scorsese to me but I'm happy as long as he is healthy
Indeed, he's looking better. Take care man, we need you!
he does look better! Bring back the Beard. Bring back Scruffy Jordan.
He really is looking a bit more like his old self.
Why did Jordan Peterson cross the road? The answer isn't obvious. It's no joke man
Well, it depends on what do you mean by the "road"...
@@pawelzabicki7785 This is hilarious. I hope he reads this comment.
I think the road is full of presumptions and felt crossed despite Jordan Peterson's intent. It's a natural reaction but can benefit from attempting to approach situations in a better faith. The road isn't any more or less crossed from what intent was meant, but it's important to know the reasoning.
@@pawelzabicki7785 ha he would totally say that
"Well ... i suspect he knows there's something on the other side that he must want"
Dr Peterson, I appreciate you so, so much. I'm so thankful that I can attend your "classes" on the internet, in the form of podcasts, or watching you interview other people. Selfishly, I get soooo much therapy and learning just by watching how you interact with others. Your modeling of the correct example for those of us out here trying to understand and fumble with the same gifts that you have mastered, is such a gift. Thank you, sir. You are a blessing in everyone's life.
Why selfishly? This is why he's doing it publicly! Hah. For people to learn and grow and be more introspective and think of things from different angles
Have to be honest, I feel guilty for listening to his lectures for free too
Well said!
Thank you, Dr Peterson! For being born in our lifetime
I have journals dating back a while. Lost track. The important thing is to move forward. I encourage people to look back and reflect on their life. To change themselves by adopting ideas that challenge them. Many will not because they don't want to change. They want to be the victim and blame others for their problems. Those people will always stay put but those who are willing to go through it will find a better solution to their problems. Journaling, reading books, that includes mein kampf and the communist manifesto, the gulag archipelago, etc. Yeah, these things must be taught so history is not repeated but I believe these bad intentions that were created are already here. The political parties with corporate leaders also want a utopia but only Jesus will instill that. Any government officials that claim they are for the people, are actually forcing us to become future slaves...interesting enough, we have slept too long and we are paying for it now.
Every conversation Dr Peterson has, where there is mutual respect, is an invitation to be vulnerable. That’s why he is such an amazing therapist.
The fact that Jordan is talking openly to Matthew is incredible, but the fact the Jordan is on his way back from hell is just extraordinary. Please accept this virtual warm hearted welcome back Jordan.
What exactly happened to Peterson?
@@user-yn2ct2ie9m Amid the stress of his position in the world and some tragedy in his family, he began taking stress reducing medication. He became physically dependent on said meds and as a result, even after breaking free of them, still struggles to do even basic tasks or achieve physical comfort for any extended period of time. He is battling.
@@milo8425
It might be useful to note that this was prescribed medication by his doctor that shouldn't have been used but for a relatively brief time to avoid the physical addiction. So in a way mis-prescribed in fact.
@@user-yn2ct2ie9m he was misprescribed benzodiazepines by his doctor as stress relief medication. Benzos may have the worst physical dependency effects, because they change the way the nervous system works. As far as I know, Mr. Jordan Peterson still has side effects almost a year clean of benzos. Also, to stop taking them he ended up needing to go to Russia and then an eastern European country which I can't remember the name of right now. That was because every clinic in both USA and Canada could NOT successfully get him off benzos. Money was no problem, just that the west did not have the knowledge. Seems they only prescribe them, and don't know how to get people off benzos once they get physically addicted.
@@turceapaulandrei I roger that
I'm an Iranian, and JBP changed my life. JBP is becoming very popular among Iranians. Thanks to his intellect.
منم خیلی این آدمو براش احترام قائلم ولی خیلی ندیدم کسایی که بشناسنش .
شاید من خوب نگشتم
Hello to my viewers in Iran.
Very excellent.
@@parsa2495 هستن ولی چون هنوز زیاد معروف نیستن آقا پیترسون توی ایران، طرفداراشون نمیتونن با کسی در مورد تفکراتشون بحث داشته باشن.
Let us reason together.
Jordan Peterson causally denying the nihilism ideology so effortlessly is pure genius. “If your objection to life is it’s suffering, adopting an attitude that will make that suffering worse is probably not a reasonable solution”
Yeah loved this response - He’s not needing to judge and diminish the speaker of nihilism he’s just stating an observation.
“Optimism is survival “ Matthew
Dude's a Zen Master Jedi
Nihilism says that suffering outweighs momentary satisfaction. Suffering is the fundamental mode of all human beings. Recognizing this is not making anything worse, if anything this puts ascetiscm and reasoning into the foreground and promotes not just blindly following your will to live.
Pure and utter gold. What a beautiful thing seeing these two brilliant people dive beyond the surface and find the greenlights.
I’ve been an asshole lately judging Matthew because of his motivational speeches and I feel guilty not knowing anything about him..like “you are not a victim” thinking what does he know? A handsome, hugely successful movie star that has everything, what does he know about feeling victimized until I read and heard all of the terrible things he’s been through..I feel so bad, he’s a very strong person..I would never have the mental strength to push through the shit he’s been through
It’s so easy to have a victim mentality and push yourself out of it like he did
I really like Matthew alot, he is down to earth and very intelligent
I'll never forgive him for missing the opportunity to title his book "I'll Write, I'll Write, I'll Write"
you know he's probably sick of that shit lol
who wants to live out an old meme over and over and over ad nauseum
That's great
@@drewbles22 I’ll bet he loves it. It made him. It’s like Elvis said about the lip curl, “I made 21 movies off this.”
@blupheonix44
+m?
🤣
I met Matthew on a beach in Malibu when I was a 1st year dental student in California. Being a prairie girl from Saskatchewan, Canada, I was so excited and starstruck. He could not have been more kind, more humble, and more friendly. He asked me questions about school and took time away from surfing with his friends to chat with a stranger. Such a nice man!
Great story miss. Hope it’s true !
Saskatchewan is real, I've been there.
Wow that’s awesome (:
@@DunderMifflin_ThisisPam hahaha
I started to cry as I read this. What a truly, truly kind, selfless, pure, angel of a human being he is. To actually make conversation with a young female college student in a bikini. The word 'saint' is thrown around these days, but here it's an understatement.
This was fantastic. I’ve always enjoyed Matthew McConaughey’s movies, but over the last 5 years give or take, his personal growth that he’s shared with the public has been inspiring and makes me enjoy him and his work even more. Jordan Peterson came in to view maybe two or even three years ago now and just blew me away. I too felt like what I thought and felt, he was able to put into words that made me shout, yes! That’s exactly it. I enjoy listening to both of these gentlemen separately and together. Thank you for this. Can’t believe this has been out a year and I’m just now coming across it.
Amen!
0:22: 😊 Matthew McConaughey wrote the book 'Green Lights' to reflect on his past experiences and lessons, expressing gratitude and integrity throughout.
8:20: 📚 Matthew McConaughey discusses the challenges of success in Hollywood and his approach to writing his memoir.
15:10: 🌍 The pursuit of a dream and the consequences of fame.
22:48: 🎭 Matthew McConaughey discusses the consequences of fame, his relationship with his mother, and his experience playing dark characters.
37:25: 💪 Faith allowed the speaker to fully embody the character of Cole in True Detective and view the world through that lens.
39:17: 🎭 The speaker discusses his journey from agnosticism to self-reliance and the role of ideals and conscience in shaping one's behavior.
47:12: 🎭 Fame happened quickly for the speaker after the release of a film, causing a shift in how they were perceived and treated by others.
54:42: 🤔 Matthew McConaughey shares his perspective on fame and how he has managed it throughout his career.
1:03:29: 📚 Matthew McConaughey thanks Jordan Peterson for inspiring him to write his book and discusses the importance of humility and self-awareness.
1:10:52: 🚦 The metaphor of red and yellow lights in life's hardships and crises, with the belief that there are green lights and lessons to be learned from them.
Recap by Tammy AI
Everyone: Avengers Endgame is the most ambitious crossover
Jordan Peterson: Hold my lobster
HAHAHAAHAHAH
I'd never tought I'd laugh at this so much
hold my lobster!! hahaha!! it's antenna all thrashing.
Hahahaha thanks for the laugh
@Chris Jacobs I believe it's a reference to the opening chapter of his book where he talks about lobsters and how scientists have studied their nervous system to draw parallels with the human nervous system :)
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
So freaking refreshing watching Mr Peterson speak with someone who’s nice to him!!
LoL
I wish Dr Peterson the best of health. But I think it would be even more refreshing to see him tear someone of Cathy Newman's ilk a new one. Lol. I just watched tje channel 4 debacle again last night. And the 20 or so minute build up to the decimation that came a a result of the interviewer's misconceived preconceptions is worthy of a Pulitzer prize or Oscar (for Peterson I mean, Newman would get a Razzie at best) or whatever the hell prize category it fits in. It was just amazing to watch. And he did it with patience and humility.
@@Lark993 very valid point, I didn't think of it that way
@@Lark993 I'm sorry I don't follow him closely enough to know details about his health. I'm sorry to hear that and pray 🙏 him nothing but the best. I do get that the continuous assaults must have an impact on his mental state and deplete his energy.
@@Lark993 Dr Peterson was like a tree in a storm. When the storm subsided he was still standing...but the price he paid! As a child I was bullied a lot. I remember at high school the school tough guy grabbed me but I kept looking him in the eye. I refused to show fear. I didn't fight back...that took time to learn but I refused to kneel!
Dr Peterson refused to kneel. I admire his courage and integrity as much as his intellect.
Finding out that this book isn’t just another “celebrity memoir” definitely will stir more interest. Great job linking up with JP to open the ears of a wider, deeper thinking, audience.
Have read both matthews and Jordan’s books more than once and listened to this a couple of times in the past. Only today have a pieced together the “judging” and self sabotaging of my own life as I navigate life with a brain injury and strive to regain my true self and my ideals. A thousand thank you’s to you both for this epiphany and this green light 🙏🏼
'Responsibility yesterday leads to freedom today.' Damn, Matthew.
Discipline equals freedom. Jocko Willink
yeah...!!
Really profound very freeing.
freedom is daily rituals of small improvements
Damn you fine!!🥰😍
Writing a book while isolated in the desert is the most Matthew McConaughey thing Matthew McConaughey could have done.
I agree.
Love you both guys...this is so beautiful ... when as a world we can really use more BEAUTIFUL right now
Thank you both
💖💖💖💖💖💖
interesting
Dr. Peterson trying to find the problem, McConaughey whatever problem I will be fine. I see a lot of trust in life in McConaughey.
i dunno going to wild turkey hq to have a tour and being made marketing director and them making his own brand... is pretty alright alright alright!
My Brother and Sister Met Matthew at a Wedding. They said he's one of the nicest guys they've ever met. Love when famous people don't disappoint. ❤
I love how Jordan just acts so seriously when McConaughey is being so carefree and joking😂
Never had a father or any good men in my life. Now in my 40’s after years of misdirected emotions and anger( money and women can’t fix this) I find Jordan Peterson, Wim Hof and Eckhart Tolle, Aaron Abke , David Hawkins and Rupert Spira. I’ve found my peace and purpose. Thank You 🙏🏾
🙏
what's you opinion on Wim Hof does those breathing techniques work?
@Guy Plays Dreams Goggins makes me want to work out
The book mindfulness in plain English changed my life. Better than Eckhart IMO.
Sticks and Stones His techniques have helped me so much, to the point were I’ve stopped headaches and anxiety through his morning breathing routine.,
The more insane the world gets, the more good people are pushed to the surface. Good on you, Matthew.
Luv this take.... well said!
"..and that we all might have the good fortune to eventually turn our attention to rebuilding the world after the deluge." (Peterson, Beyond Order, 382)
Well said
Seam that way.
Enjoyed this sooo much. Thank you both.
I haven't even finished the episode yet. But the words that Matthew speaks about taking hold of the wheel in life and not letting yourself off the hook so easily have really impacted me. I'm at a point in my life where I have been ashamed by my actions and the results that they produce are so toxic and they are eating away at my relationship with my wife. I wasn't capable of understanding how I knew that God has forgiven me of my son's and yet I let myself of the hook so easily.
That was until Jordan pointed out that there is this higher standard; an ideal; that we are called to be and I knew that from the start but I couldn't connect the dots where I finally realized that all my actions, especially the ones I choose to ignore that negatively impact my life, really do impact me down the road.
So if you're reading this Jordan or Matthew. Thank you to the both of you for helping me come to a revelation in my life tonight. It turns out that I think this will help save my marriage from my own poor decisions tearing it to shreds.
Boy I hope you've acknowledged in time. My x played while I took care of 5 kids ( including twins last.) He told friend s he was a single guy with a wife and 5 kids on the side. So hurtful. I kept it ll together for the sake of the kids .selfishness and porn ruined my family 👪. I hope yours is salvageable.
@@cindyrobertson3798 I pray you and your children are doing well.☦️🇨🇦🙏✌️
Wow, I love reading comments like this. I hope you really do what you say you've realized.
God loves you. And nothing you have done is unforgivable by God. But you need to be convicted on a daily basis. Pick up your cross and carry it for the Lord
Love that " you want your parent to teach you better than they are"
Love how you help bring clarity to the person you are interviewing Mr. Peterson.
It is wonderful to see Dr Peterson clear-eyed, alert and vibrant.
As an ex addict I'm really curious to hear the details of his struggle lately. It's a very personal thing so we may never know the "dirty details" of what happened but dealing with benzos is a very precarious situation. I was addicted to heroin and benzos and heroin was much harder to stop but benzos give some of the most dangerous withdrawals of any substance. The fact he went all the way to Russia (if I remember correctly) for treatment really concerns me and leaves HUGE questions.
Edit: I watched the interview of him describing treatment and to be honest he just sounds like a drug addict lol. I love him and his message but going to Russia to be given PROFOPOL for a week is pretty much cheating his way into sobriety. Even hearing him talk about I get the feeling that he's not completely over it yet. I didn't sleep for months, I was throwing up all the time and got extremely depressed and had every symptom he described on top of opiate withdrawal but it was a much needed learning experience in accountability. Everyone has there own journey but I think it's a mistake to be treated in that manner. It would have been soooooo much easier for me to get clean by having someone knock me out for a week and a half while I detoxed but then I wouldn't remember all the pain I went through to get clean. I hope he gets over this eventually but everything I see leads me to believe that he's still not in the clear yet.
@@menwithven8114 I also think that wasn't a very wise decision, but it was made not by him, but by his daughter and his son in law...
@@menwithven8114 There's an interview between Dr. Peterson and his daughter Mikhaila over on her channel that goes into detail about the whole ordeal. It wasn't an addiction in the sense of substance abuse in any case, it was a paradoxical reaction, something that some psychiatric drugs are liable to do in rare cases; The medication ends up amplifying your symptoms rather than reducing them. You have my absolute respect by the way for quitting those two drugs you mentioned, that's goddamn impressive, especially the heroin!
I would disagree...looks beaten down and exhausted.
@@menwithven8114 yes, something still not right.
This video should have been labeled :
Matthew turns his Self-Authoring assignment and gets a straight A from Jordan
HA
hahahaha nice one
Hahaha 🤣 I love it
Jealous, I see?
@@GTfour01 You see jealousy here? Where?
Wow! So great to see both of these gentlemen sharing their brilliance with the world together for our good. I have so much admiration for both. I love Jordon‘s down to earth manner of talking to him. Not like “OMG! It’s Matthew McConehey!” JP spoke to him like this is a great book regardless of it being a famous movie star but just like they are friends and are on the same mission.
I agree and also felt Matthew was in awe of Dr. Peterson where I would have thought it would be the other way around.
My son is Matthew after him and other Matthews. It is a wonderful name, MATTHEW-- A Gift from God. MY son is a fantastic gift
"You want your Father to teach you to be better than he was." I like this.
This❤
💯👌
Yes, as a parent, one should want to raise their kids to be better, more well rounded people than we are.
That’s what I feel I must do with my new born son 👍🏻
My brother existence now is to try my best to build my life the way I want and teach that little man to be better in every way than me.
In my case I just wanted to break the chain and be a better man.
Matthew used the wind as an excuse to show Peterson his clean bedroom.
Sneaky brat
LOL that’s a beauty On a serious note, that’s one of the best interviews I’ve seen. Matthew wins my admiration the older he gets. I once was not a fan. Very impressive individual. Integrity and honesty, he’s a genuine person. 👏🏻
Now, he's got to manifest an excuse to show the house to display the next step lol
He can move through higher dimensions
😂😂😂😂
I'm totally surprised how this one conversation between two men that are strangers to my life and myself has helped my path of grief from my son's death .I can only say thank you for setting me on a path of healing .
Sorry about your Son👏 ,I can't imagine 😔 💜💙💚
I will be watching this interview again, and again, and again. I know that I was impacted by numerous points. And the points raised by these two gentlemen that I wasn’t impacted by, I am either not ready for yet at this point in my life or I missed them. Missed them because I allowed myself to start lines of thought inspired by the words of both these intellectuals. An interesting example of the old adage I may not have completely correct. A person is wiser for saying less and listening more. If I was limited to very few words to comment on my experience, watching this, these would be the words I would choose. Watching this interview, one hundred percent worth my time. Mr McConaughey, Mr Peterson, I am and will always be grateful for having found this collaboration from you both. I wish both of you and all those you may care about the best of days.
Sincerely Brenda Dontcha
Ps: Out of respect I felt absolutely necessary, I left this comments section to ensure the correct spelling of both of your names as typed at the bottom of this CZcams video. And found out I had to retype all of this. Which was also 100% worth my time. Also of interest, the first sentence from the first time composing this was lost to me. I believe that everything else from the first attempt to convey what I wanted, I recalled and replicated from memory without error. I also believe that I will remember that first sentence which I do recall being important to me to convey. I will write it down or type it out when I do and it will find its way to you both when it’s meant to. Again, thanks to you both for all you put your selves to, your both throwing small pebbles by comparison into a an infinite sized body of mass and matter. What is important is those positive impacts and the positive ripples caused by both your efforts. They may never lose energy and may continue through all that exists, indefinitely.
In closing, for comical sake, that was a really long post script…
"How many times do you clean your room in a day?"
"Once"
"Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers"
I myself clean my room atleast twice a day, once before breakfast and then right after lunch. I want to, thats not why i do it, i do it cause i fucking need to. Think about it, youre dealing with SJWs, high frequency leftists all day.
Hahaha, 👏👏
@@mashable8759 i clean my appartement 1 a month and and 4 Times a week a little zweep. .,
The posture video seems to be legit
Keep up the good work
@@davidkelly189 underrated
Matthew's Room is extra clean for this podcast.
He didn't want to come off as a bloody Communist.
Pool house
Lol
Only few lobsters under bed.
Guest room I'd guess. Had the same thought
I kept journals until 2007 from the age of 8 to 17 as it was mandatory in our home. Our house burned and they all burned with it. After that I was really upset because not only did my journals burn but so did all of my drawings and poems I wrote and every single little thing that I would write down on/in all sorts of things. My momma even let me write on the walls so long as it was purposeful, if you will. So I quit writing, no more journals, songs, poems, drawings. I completely gave up on my life. I feel like my life was better when I kept a journal so recently 2019 because “Covid” I couldn’t go anywhere, I started writing again and even created a board game with my 3 children that implemented journaling (currently still in development) I feel more alive when I journal. As far as Matthew goes, I love this guy! I’ve always liked him because he “feels like home” I could listen to him talk for ever. I feel like we have a connection, like a brother or father, a great friend. You can’t help but want to just walk up and hug the guy lol before I die I want to have a one on one conversation with Matthew.
"be a gentlemen and don't lie", words that everyone should strive to achieve.
He seems like one of the rare, and genuine gems out of that horrible place called Hollywood.
Great to see Jordan back and looking great!
Because he comes from Texas 🤗
That horrible place called Hollywood that you probably waste 2-4 hours of your day (or more) consuming product from
Not nearly as horrible as Texas.
Him and Denzel Washington, actually.
The rare informed, interested, intelligent interviewer and the rare sincere, interesting, honest subject.
It doesn't get any better.
This is a perfect comment, and you will get far too few "likes" for it...still, a perfect comment.
Fantastic comment
Perfectly said, cheers
Hi I m from Morocco 🇲🇦, I was always interested in western literature, and sometimes reading some books , then I found out Dr Peterson , he scan amazing guy , he made me being like reborn , to start thinking and reorganize my way of thinking and even my life , thank you , I bought his book the 12 ,,,, I wish someone could translate it to Arabic ,and share it with people here . Thank you so much Dr
I am here after watching Steven Crowder's video which he had some valid points, what Matthew what I said during the press conference at the White House now I will say I will always respect and never doubt what comes out of Jordan Peterson's mouth or mind. I know that will never lead me wrong. And Matthew does amazing movies as an actor I've watched a lot of his videos of him personal interviews and he seems to be good all the way around but as I've seen lately some people need you're not pick a side but you honor the truth especially what America is and should stay but also as America learns to adapt like it always has because of how we've always embraced every culture but still making sure that they are assimilated to who we Are and what makes us great so that dream will always be everybody's dream that they have a chance to grasp. I like this interview pretty good still feel like need a little Steven crowder comedy and a little extra straight in your face truth from a person's like his perspective and theirs but where more Americans can rely on with some dependability is listening to Stephen Crowder also all three of these men are powerhouses that actually do talk from their heart more than they don't I'll take that as a win and listen God bless America and God bless all of you and God bless the people that love America too we are so just starting to truly be the America that will truly end up being stronger,better, and more solid to the great values to which we were built upon.
Dr. Peterson is a hero. A real life hero.
Someone who has actually saved people man. What a human being.
Ikr?
@@MegaNicolemarie he is fantastic.
What’s he done?
"Are you carrying the heaviest rock that you can carry?"
"It'd be a lot cooler if you did"
Time stamp?
Oh..
Lol
@@ghingoor lol
Beat me to it..... excellent.....
Watching this in 2023. A refreshingly honest and open discussion, very impressed with how articulate Matthew is. I'd enjoyed his film performances but known little about him. I would love to hear both men's thoughts in 2023 on the subject of the A list Hollywood stars who have become fathers in their late 70s/early 80s. Here in the UK, most people seem to think it is fine as the infants will be well provided for financially. I'm not sure it is healthy, given that the said actors already had plenty of children and grandchildren. People are often quite critical of late motherhood, the over 40s and even over 50s, but it is seen as acceptable for a man to become a father again late in life. Dr Peterson here was still recovering from his terrible health crisis, but now in 2023 he is looking radiant and strong, it is a joy to see. "Beyond Order" is one of the best books I have ever read and is already helping me to be a better person, it seems better than any psych meds to be honest !
I met McConaughey a number of years ago when I was working at The Inn at Perry Cabin. I was the Guest Relations Manager and had the opportunity to meet him and talk to him. It stands out in my mind that, even so many years ago, he was so gracious, considerate, polite….and kind. Humility was already a part of his DNA even with all the adulation surrounding him. Great interview!
Matthew seemed almost relieved to be speaking to somebody who actually understood what he was trying to get across in his book.
Not only that, Dr. Peterson was a major inspiration for the writing of the book! =)
or who actually read it
You didn't find it rambling and self indulgent (not on the Professor Peterson side) ? I applaud him for the courage to speak to Peterson though.
That’s bc this is the life Jordan has been writing about, many of us feel like this, but feel the world we now live in doesn’t share those bedrock foundational values, as we’re experiencing in today’s Political struggles of ideology.
@island dreaming possibly and i think we both know the term that would apply to such an incident but even then.. though the woke may hate him the truly awake know he speaks from a point of objective morality.. of course you are correct in your assumption that this year he will come under sustained attack from the system and its worshippers. i think he will have the strength to whether it
“Optimism is courage, if it’s not naive.”
Brilliant.
Optimism is bullshit, because it contradicts the laws of nature. The universe is always increasing in entropy, it is impossible for entropy to decrease in a closed system. The idea that something good is just around the corner is akin to religious belief, not based in scientific reality. Existence is merely a journey towards maximum entropy (thermodynamic equilibrium of the universe). Nothing in the universe will survive. Not stars, planets, or civilizations. Stars will eventually cease to form as Hydrogen gas clouds are depleted, black holes will eventually decay due to Hawking radiation, and even atoms themselves will break down as the universe gets closer and closer to maximum entropy, rendering all forms of intelligence impossible. The laws of thermodynamics dictate our fate. Oswald Spengler was right all along: optimism is cowardice. We are all doomed, and we've been able to prove it scientifically for decades. Optimism is a fantasy designed to give comfort to our primitive human minds to help us cope with the brutal reality of the universe in which we exist.
@@ApocDevTeam How depressing
@@ApocDevTeam I'm pretty sure he was referring to optimism for the outcome of an individual's life, with respect to whatever goals that person may have, not the grand fate of the universe.
@@skywriter4308 exactly bro seems to be expressing he shouldn’t try cause
Perhaps ALSO when it's naive, and thus, pure.
What a great interview, what a humble man Matthew is. I worked in a frame shop in NYC for many years in my youth. Matthew came in as a customer and was completely non assuming and polite. I did not even know who he was at the time until after he left and my boss told me. I then proceeded to look him up and watch all of his movies. Nice guy and very talented.
Finally seeing this. Mccaughey does laugh in unexpected places sometimes but the Mephistopheles quote about deserved demise earned through basic existence amused me as well -taken on its own and not in the context of the moment in the play or story, anyway. Groucho was a pretty well-read guy, if Goethe was his source for: “I’d never belong to a club that would allow someone like me to become a member”. Which is kind of the same fatalistic circular argument but packed in a much lighter package.
Keep up the good work. I’m 62 and I want to be like you when I grow up. :)
Those are some words man.
A man after my own heart. Once my mind untangled your words into a linear, albeit abstract stream of thought I must say I'm impressed at your verbal acuity. Keep writing sir.
I was admittedly more interested on where he stands spiritualy, thoroughly enjoyed the discussion, but in the end, I was not happy with the question still not answered " is he one of "us" eternal soldier for Christ?already knowingly in and functioning in Gods eternal kingdom or is he still on the outside merely considering and briefly looking in once in a while, when The Holy Ghost might get his attention briefly through his busy multi faceted ever spinning reality, when his conscience, and soul unite with endless longing, and cry out for salvation while looking for love in all the wrong places, when only Jesus Christ has the soul cleansing power in His shed blood to make you whole! Body ,soul, & spirit.
Or maybe just purposefully a real cliff hanger designed to help encourage me to by the book.
Lol! God bless! you both deep admiration and joy for your u derstandi g and ability to keep your heads on straight while experiencing, fame and success,
Thx be to the Allmighty that jorden has recieved that and entered the sozo life with us, in the Body! 🙌🙏🙌🙏
It's so refreshing to see that not every celebrity has gone of the rails.
Right. He must be done trying to get roles because if you're not drinkin the koolaid, its tough out in Hollywood.
Man, ain't that the damn truth..
@@turkeyman631 speculation is boring
He is to big and to good to fail.
Hes one of the few celebrities I actually respect.
I love the fact that he actually thanks Jordan Peterson for his teachings. It's so refreshing, because I'd love to thank him myself.
Very few women read Dr. Peterson. I have never met any, even in academia.
I find his views interesting, but I don't take his every word as gospel.
@@thelindabhere at least you understand that you can learn with him, and even if you dont agree with something, you respect him, and dont instantly attack him .
@@PTExtremePlays exactly
@@DIVISIONINCISION Well, we exist!
McConaughey always strikes me as a guy that keeps growing. His interviews over the years have gotten more and more interesting. He seems like someone who's become a much better person with age. Likely a really awesome guy to know now. Very inspiring.
This deliberate and intelligent conversation between two of my favorite men was such a fun find at 2am. Thank you for being real men and real gentlemen. Stay strong and continue aging beautifully.
Matthew. Keep doing what you love because from the view of someone who just knows you are a famous actor, it seems that following your heart's desire has led you to the right places.
Don't think about what work they may or may not love, apparently they love you so stay true.
He’s such a boss for coming on here to speak to Dr. Peterson
you can tell they both have kind of an admiration to each others and both feel privileged to have that talk. It's genuine to a point it's intellectually heart warming
I would rather meet Jordan then Mathew anyday.
@Chris Jacobs I've heard McConaughey talk about Peterson on other programs. He's definitely a huge fan
@@angelaconner3131 While I agree, but if the chance was there, I'd happily meet Matthew McConaughey too. I'd almost never turn down a chance to meet someone famous. There are some celebrities I'd probably pass up or even ignore if they were in the same place and same room.
Matthew McConaughey one of the only people left in Hollywood with a functioning mind.
Very true.
Well as he mentioned, he lives in Texas :-D
Also an independent mind
I think he's in Texas too.
Really? How does he funktion? He can not setup his computer and mic decently, the big movie star.
Most of the interview was bs. Sorry!
What is his reaction to the scandals in his business? He takes millions and shuts up. Brilliant.
Two highly intellectual yet humble men having a very insightful conversation. What more could a person ask for? That was greatly enjoyable. I absolutely loved Greenlights and recommend it to many people. Hope to catch you two engaging in a conversation again sometime in the future.
Mr. McConaughey is a Christian! Sweet - love to hear this!!
Jesus, that part with "Your father wants you to be even better than him" hit really close to home. I never thought about it that way. I always resented my dad for not living up to the standards he put on me. I now know that he just wanted and still wants me to be even better than him.
Thanks Mr. Peterson.
That's a powerful idea and I never thought about it that way.
I’ve fortunately already learned that lesson - bc I’m McConaughey’s age - as I attempt to teach my children lessons of right & wrong & reality - who to be and how to be. I’m very flawed in many ways, but really effective in other ways.... as are MOST, IF NOT ALL, HUMANS. So I get to see it from the side of the flawed parent, and then reflect on the pretty tough flaws of my own parents. It’s one of the most critical lessons of life.
Ive resented my dad since birth. My dads 90. We dont speak. Never have. Im 44.
I don't have to try hard to be better than that POS
i have a 7 year old and ive told him that many times, but worded differently. i always say
all that matters to me is that you can be better than me, so you can have a better life than me.
just coasting along is a good way to die miserable. there are too many people trying to do that these days. life used to be a lot harder and people were happy just to make it to the end of the day. but life isnt like that, so people need to push forward and figure out some new things. learn to love what you do, do just do what makes you happy
Great quote: if I didn't have the confidence when I was young to be so arrogant, I wouldn't have stumbled upon situations where I was humbled. That is wise right there!
It makes you think. Can one be just as humble without previous bouts of arrogance?
@@willfin3404 well thats kinda just reframing the question. And to answer you.......I don't know lol
@@MrSilas2012 Yes, but it is only through detachment from one’s own will by the grace of Jesus Christ to do the Will of God, which requires humility.
@@MrSilas2012 hahahah
@@flaviusmacrobius1110INDEED IT DOES.
There's something to be said for having faith in God so strong that you aren't afraid to sit down and eat with non-believers; allowing them to see what it means to be a man of God, and knowing that God will protect you from all impurities.
12 rules for life and green lights are 2 of the best books i’ve ever read
Matthew wanted to show Jordan that he made his bed
underrated comment
😂
@@BB-hh7xq Severely
You sir deserve thousands of thousands of positive pennies
And washed his benis
Podcast with Jordan Peterson and Matthew McConaughey?
*Alright, Alright, Alright!*
I can heat that “Alright”
This interview is a must watch! I loved listening to two people who actually listened to each other.
29:40 With 93 pts in Neuroticism, I got along best with Anti-Natalists as well. Mostly cause there is a lot of irrational physical pain attached to it, as well. What helped me, was a small dose of fear medication. Now I can actually talk and even defend myself. And my urge to feel-drink? Got down too. Everything is more crystalized in my brain. (Got alot more theories on that, but I will keep it short) ... So I wanted to thank Dr. Peterson for pointing the big5test out for me. (We dont get those in therapy, here in germany). And of course, thanks to Mr. McConaughey too =D Me and my BFF watch True Detective all the time, with me beeing Rust and my buddy beeing Marty. It was a long way to convince the world, but I kept telling the truth, no matter what! -> God bless the both of you.
‘That’s an excellent place to end... I would say’ ever the genius. So happy to see Jordan looking sharp and clear-eyed. Never ever take people like this for granted, their existence is one of the few things that keep pushing back the evils of this world.
Aye aye sir
He’s suffering...even now.
Don't underestimate the part you play and countless others do to repel evil. If we were closer to evil than its opposite then we would not have such a scary concept of it.
he's wrecked. 1st rule of new book, after all the talk of society becoming communist, he tells everyone to believe in the system. it's ok, Jordan had a family but he's toast. now he's just another fake.
So well said, yes!
‘A podcast between Jordan Peterson and Matthew McConaughey isn’t possible.’
*’No, it’s necessary.’*
What the hell are we going to do in a world without a podcast between Jordan Peterson and Matthew McConaughey?
Well said!!
Happy to see an Interstellar reference in here
I thank you
"This little maneuver is gonna cost us one hour, thirteen minutes, and twelve seconds"
True Detective and Greenlights are the finest works of Matthew. He didn’t catch my attention till those things and they blew my mind.
I absolutely loved this interview. I felt like Mathew really let us in and shared a very honest and candid part of himself. His real, non celebrity personality really shone through. I have watched many of your interviews Jordan, and your sincerity is also something I truest admire.
Dr Peterson’s health is improving, both physical & mental. Thank God.
He’s still way off. Still in pain.
Sometimes it seems like he just needs a cup of coffee. Like... I feel like a shot of proper espresso will knock 50% of the cobwebs off.
We all have long dark tea times of the soul. I would fully expect that he would recover from his suffering. It is the trait of someone who is strong to overcome life travails.
Amen
[1:00] Jordan Peterson kicks off the conversation by asking why and how Matthew McConaughey wrote his book Greenlights.
[4:00] Matthew realized he needed to write the book himself without a ghostwriter as initially planned and dig back into his journals as a form of necessary reflection on the past.
[6:00] Matthew’s old journals revealed their common thread through all the stories, poems, and bumper stickers. That common thread was the creation of good things in life through mindset or action “Greenlights.”
[12:00] Jordan talks about his initial response after reading Matthews’s and how his expectations were changed.
[14:00] Matthew talks about his solo trips when starting to create the structure of his book. Jordan comments that this was a book written by a celebrity that did not really focus on the traditional parts of being a celebrity (very family-focused and foundational). Matthew states, “When we were editing the book I found that the more personal the stories became, the more relatable they seemed to become, to the human condition, and that was my hope.”
[18:00] Jordan and Matthew revisit the African trip, chasing dreams and having the same exact dream multiple times over the span of many years.
[24:00] What was the personal impact on Matthew during his trip to Africa where he got to strip away the identity we all know him for and exist as something else? Jordan comments that very often, people confuse their reputation with who they really are, they start to act as a representation of their reputation instead of themselves; it’s an easy trap to fall into.
[22:00] Matthew discusses dealing with the pitfalls of fame. Matthew covers his changing relationship with his mother due to success.
[25:00] Jordan B. Peterson asks Matthew McConaughey about some of his acting work in True Detective and playing dark characters. “How do you play a dark role very well without letting the darkness invade you?”
[32:00] Matthew talks about the positive aspects of the sometimes tense relationship with his father and having a childhood that balanced love and hardship directed from the same people.
[37:00] Jordan and Matthew continue talking about going deeper into the psychology of a dark character like Rustin Cole on True Detective
[45:30] Matthew expanded on the short-term effects of initial fame.
[51:30] Matthew and Jordan discuss the long-term effects of fame.
[55:00] Jordan points out “If flawed people were incapable of creativity we would have no creativity.”
[1:03:00] How Matthew and Jordan got connected
[1:07:30] Matthew shares a comical review of his own book written as if Jordan was the one reviewing it.
How? It's only been up for 10 minutes!
Thank you for this! Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines!
Wow, thanks very much I don't have enough time to watch it whole 👍
@@c0xb0x its in the description
Well done sir! Props, kudos and other synonyms of praise to you👍
My respect for Matthew has elevated. This is a book, I must read! Matthew is beautifully thoughtful and purposeful in his angle of approaching life.
It doesn’t matter who or what you were then, it’s who and what you are right Now. 🙏❤️
When I see the comments, I see a lot of intelligent comments. That means there are a lot of decent human beings who are applying thought to go through some rough to find some meaning.
Word
I concur.
I believe that "critical thinking skills'' should be a mandatory class in regular schools of all of humanity.
@@dertythegrower I would say there typically seems to be variance in how humans respond to any information presented. For example, some may memorize the precepts of the critical thinking course without ever understanding how to critically think, while others simply may not be interested.
I agree it's a good idea, as long as we remember it likely won't be a panacea. Cheers!
Wonderfully said
Keep your chins up everyone!
There are still a whole lot of smart people all over the world
Thank God Dr. Peterson is back after all who prayed for him and his family to get though the hell and challenge of very poor health. Carry on good soldier.😄🙏🌤
@@aaahzpervect5755 i wish it was also. I have lost accounts for not much more.
I loved Mathews comment early on about how he "engineered" Green Lights. I preached to my daughter all through her youth a simply mantra..."The more responsibility you show...The more freedom you get." His use of this axiom really made me happy because she turned out to be as good person as he seem to be. Mathew is truly a humble gentleman.
Could you explain your quote please... I would like to grasp this to use for my daughter
Jordan Peterson drops these little nuggets, almost always in every interview, that makes listening to the entire podcast so valuable: “…optimism is courage- if it’s not naive…”
We like Peterson, but we sometimes forget how they smear him, lie about him, and that that's how he is presented to mainstream culture. People don't realize how good it is that this is conversation is happening.
True, true. But these attacks and smear campaigns act as a filter: those who believe the lies and exaggerations will not, and could not, make use of life-changing knowledge and wisdom. Those who give Dr. Peterson a chance know the score.
**they**
@@pendejo6466 this is right to a degree. I'm kind of lucky cause I bought the lies and then I accidentally watched a video of him, not know it was him. After that it's all history
Nobody smears Peterson lol. He's one of the most promoted intellectuals on the internet today. That should tell you something.
@@TruthDissident "Nobody smears Peterson lol."
Can I please clarify something, are you a sane person?
"Have you cleaned your room?"
"You'd be a lot cooler if you did."
hahaha
these quotes are great
I’ve seen quite a handful of your comments on my posts and I just wanna appreciate those people whose wishes me good and encourages me and my team, I wouldn’t be the man I am today without people like you, God bless you. I hope to bring you so much happiness and joy 🌹❤️
What a joy it is to listen to a conversation between two emotionally mature men most people would put at opposite ends of our social spectrum.
I love Matthew McConaughey's introspection. People are generally so plugged in to their electronics all the time that we don't see a lot of that anymore. Also... regarding his vivid dreams, I would definitely explore my ancestry and search for someone who may have travelled to those places, esp. the one that he said felt like home. DNA memory is a really powerful thing if you have the clarity of mind to tap into it.
Lets all take a second to be thankful that Peterson is alive and even well enough to do interviews!!! best thing so far about 2021!
GRATITUDE !
Yes, we need to be reminded frequently.
Amen to that
Jordan Peterson: "You struck me as an intensely likeable character"
Journalist quote: "You struck me"
"you're hired" - msm
"Matthew McConaughey struck Jordan Peterson in an intense and brutal way. Click to find out what happened!" (Picture of a street fight)
LOL!😂 good one
It's called "English".
well done sir, well done...
A very interesting, enlightening and enjoyable interview.
Much respect to Jordan & Matthew xx
Have wanted to hear someone’s take on Matthew’s book as my grandson is at the beginnings of a path to acting. To be able to hear Matthew himself discuss this with another I respect was a gift.
I love his whistle :) and Matthew McConaughey is the real deal!
I was skeptical of Matthew at first, but all he’s trying to do is change the world in a positive way. More humble than I thought. God bless him and Jordan.
Like he said himself, he just decided to 'just be a regular person' and that is what we get and why we enjoy him so very much
@Historia Antiqua With a name tag like yours, this comment is ironic as hell and an odd take.
I’m shocked how nice Matthew is, not like the other hollywood stars for sure.
I was skeptical about Mathew thinking he could be another self absorbed actor.He seems pretty cool however.
I’m happy to see it is more than just an act
I'm somali and jordan peterson has influenced me a lot in my life in a way from high school till now I'm in university,
since a lot of what he represents resemble my father's, so thank you sir!.
Good for you. Never give up on being better.
I began my journaling 20 yrs ago in 2003 when my “Mom” was diagnosed with lung cancer .. knowing she would pass soon I began to write & write & write.. I knew I had so many questions that I wanted/needed answers too.. I got the answers for 7 months from the first news of her impending death.. I’ve never been able to reread them as there’s so much to think on.. as I rescan them in my mind the thoughts of reading them seems unlikely to ever happen..
Two of my favorites! I am even a bigger fan after watching this . It's obvious that Matthew is driven to be the best version of himself, how fortunate we are to hear this. I also absolutely love Matthew's darker, more complex character roles. Thank you Dr. P for sharing this meaningful and valuable exchange.
Matthew: "Alright alright alright"
Jordan: "But it depends on what you mean by alright alright alright . . . "
This is gold
Its no joke man
@@davyroger3773 IT IS
@@corniel657 Then you haven't considered the multiplicity of deep rooted psychological and physiological implications one makes when uttering "alright, alright, alright"
*gestures wildy
Haha bro you got me. Comments can make me smile but you got laughing like a child.
What a delight to see you two together
This is strange. i saw the upload and told myself "what a delight" and then saw your comment.
Yes I am very happy to see both these guys together and I hope Jordan Peterson can start doing more podcasts here, granted he's recovering
I loved Matthew McConaughey with Woody Harrelson in True Detective!
INDEED.
Hello everyone! So am I understanding this right? This is Jordan Peterson as he is today? Please God make it so. If it is he is on his way to recovery! So hope he is! The world needs him so much
Both intelligent and thought provoking men. They come from a place of truth. The mentor and the mentee.
Well, I like Matthew because he is #1 eye-catching, but #2 because he is a thinker! That's what's important...how you see the world, your experiences, to be able to be into your perceptions and soak in the "giving" substance of the now. To perceive, anticipate, desire...being in touch with one's self and also sharing that...is what magnetizes his personage and makes him beautiful, fresh, and exciting!
Wish there were many more men like Matthew...and Jordan. PS. Jordan, such a relief when you smile or give a half chuckle for a second...hope there is more of that on the way.
Jordan Peterson is the most well intentioned person I have ever seen. He is a kind man who clearly wants the best for everyone. How the hell do people think this guy is a white supremacist?
Because from the left anyone who disagrees with you must be insane
I lean more to the left and Peter leans to the right. But his ideas are generally good ones. As I get older, you realize a lot of people don't want to or know how to process challenging thoughts. Far right and far left people feed off easy to digest arguments and echo chambers.
@@perryliu2952 yeah at least the right denounces the far right when they do stupid shit. But the left and democrats encourage it. Just look at what happened in many American cities.
If Jesus walked the earth today he’d be classed as a white supremacist too! The left don’t like religion
@@zantelion1052 true
Peterson and McConaughey, the buddy comedy we didn't know we needed.
It’s nice to watch an interview with Jordan Peterson and an intelligent, self-reflective man, whose job is acting, rather than what could have been a spoiled self-indulgent, boring movie star. Much respect for JP and MM.