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- Watch the complete Skavlan interview with psychologist and professor Jordan B. Peterson.
Also present in the studio are Swedish politician Annie Lööf and Norwegian author Erlend Loe. The show's presenter is Fredrik Skavlan.
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Three against one is significantly unfair, but at least he went easy on them.
Nah the host kept smiling cuz he know he spitting facts
Jordan generally takes great care to go easy on his detractors.
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
Hahaha. Jordan be like Jackie Chan lone fighting kungfu-hooligans easy.
@@_91K_ They were easy pickins for sure.It's nice to have an easy day at the office from time to time.
This is not even a conversation. He literally just taught a class.
Everyone who disagrees with me below is a brain dead sheep & the world would be better off without them
@@thegodofyoutube266 its called thinking
youssef gold aly I’m better than you
Jimmy The Gent your opinion won you 2 likes! Way to go champ!
Jimmy The Gent he literally said directly after that he wasn’t suggesting forcing couples who are bound to have trouble, to stay together! You wasted my time. Actually thought you were worth the debate. Your second comment speaks volumes!
As a foreign language learner, one of the hallmark of the genius of Peterson is his language. I mean when you listen to him speaking and listen to the people with him speaking, it feels like they're using different languages. His complexity of structure, precision, expressiveness, and accurate choice of expression are all fascinating.
I admire his command of the English language, and the ability to find the words be uses to express himself in an instant.
He is very careful how he speaks❤
I admire his patience and kindness he showed, to his interviewers here who at times had some struggles articulating what they were thinking.
Yea in public speaking grammar word choice and tone and meter….all just about perfect
You will see this type of language in Dickens or Austin. It's the precision, they say exactly what they mean, definitely helps with understanding and almost more Importantly preventing misunderstanding.
Excellent interview.
After she understood him, she sat down listening, learning and looking at him, with utmost admiration, well done sister, it's better to learn and change than remain a fool.
She does not seem to agree with him, but is respectful. I would agree that she understands him and that he isn't saying that women cannot do traditionally male roles or occupations, just that he believes its not a result of society but instead biology. Whether or not that is true is irrelevant really.
exactly, I didn't see it coming. I was astounded at her composure towards the end of the video
Exemple of debatting, everyone is a winner in the end. If we only could listen to each others like that.
@@dumbiriezike5598 she's one of the more compassionate women
good woman knows her place
This man isn’t debating them. He’s educating them lmao
He is an academic.
Turned a debate into a lecture lol
Yeah it's fantastic to see how badly educated the others were. Their points and reactions were not even in the same ballpark. They did not understand much from Jordan. They think their opinion means as much as facts 🤣
They didn’t even understand him… language barrier? Or just trolling him?
Good call. Many people through the years have said he taught a class here.
Jordan Peterson isn't provocative, people are just easily offended nowadays.
to be provoked is more of a response.
As he said in order to think you have to be willing to be offensive
People are bitches now days
In a world where people watch TikTok, each clip only lasts for seconds, more and more adults are acting like babies.
And a great quote I recently heard "It is very important not to offend people but it is equally important that we as a people not be so easily offended" - Unsure ; )
I was working as a fedex driver for the last 3 years working 70 hours a week, just to be suddenly laid off 2 days ago. Definitely at my lowest point but I came back here because Jordan’s words always gives me strength 🙏🏾 this is the beginning of greater. Although I weep as I write this. Love to all
You'll bounce back brotha 💪🏻
@@danielvail8764 thank you fam 🙏🏾
all the best to you sir. You'll get thru this
If you were able to do that demanding and difficult Fedex delivery job 70 hours a week for three years you need not be concerned about anything.
You are destined for a great career elsewhere.
I hope you are a Canadian.
You Are Not Alone - There Are Many Like You - And They're Very Close Around. Reach Out.
This was a beautiful interview because the agenda was to ask the man what he thought and why he thought those things. It's obvious that Jordan is light years ahead...and I think that's a large part why they stay out of the way to give way for his brilliance. I love this interview and will be coming back to watch over and over.
Yeah I wish we had a show like this in the US
I think JP is one of the most emotionally and intellectually intelligent people alive on the planet today. I find so many don't actually listen to what he has to say. They hear a part of it, misconstrue it, and try and pick a fight at their own peril ;-)
This man saved me from suicide. I was literally about to jump off Niagara falls on a new years eve and was driving to get to Niagara from Toronto and was listening to him by accident on the way. I heard about him before. When I finally reached Niagara, the lighting and everything in the new years eve and seeing everyone so happy and joyful and what he said, I felt like I had another shot. I stopped at a Timmys, and felt extreme love and affection towards strangers in a way that they thought I was crazy. He literally breathed new life into me. I spent the entire night in Niagara on the lake, drove back the nex morning, everything felt different from that day onwards. It is unbelievable. Here I am! Not even the pandemic and lockdowns could make me feel down anymore.
THIS is what I like to see on the internet
We were all created for times such as this. Through the works of God he used Peterson to save your life. You are not hopeless, you are not meaningless. From what I read in your post, it seems that God has put his hands on your life. We should all be grateful for that. 😊
That’s amazing. What a beautiful story!
What a blessing. Your life has meaning. Not just to yourself, but to humanity. Be the best you possible and bless someone else.
All of this and these comments. We need more of this.
"The most hated person in the room is the one who speaks the truth"
No, not at all.
@@citizen6458 Yes it is lol.
@@citizen6458 yes it is.
Depends on the purpose of the group. I have been the bearer of illuminating facts in a professional settings, and, because I was respected for past work, the facts were accepted, and eventually led (with a great deal of work by greatly skilled coworkers and managers who knew how to build a team) to winning a multi-billion dollar contract against very competent competition.
@@DonMeaker Wow dude thats crazy
Watching the female guests expressions when he "educates" her is by far the best part of the interview. You can tell it resonates with her logically, but you can see the conflict within her political beliefs. This man is simply speaking the truth with facts and data and not involving emotions in any of his conversations. I very much enjoy listening to him speak..and by the looks of it, so did the panel, even if it made them question their politics and beliefs.
I noticed that too. She looks at him in a very interesting way after he corrects her in a forceful and direct, but so kind and truthful way.
Your interpretation is doubtful. She’s appalled.
LOL. I'm thinking the woman on the panel still believes that woman should be equally represented in all proffessional and high paying jobs but with little to no representation in difficult, strenuous, dangerous and low paying jobs while the fellow with the beard is mulling divorce himself.
One of the best panels hosting Dr. Peterson yet.
I do believe it is a conflict in her, because in Sweden they put rational thought and knowledge very highly, so they can't really reject science. And at the same time they rate equality highly. So it surely must have put her in a very difficult place mentally.
I read that completely different. At least in the first half, it was far more of a judgemental and an "in disagreement" sort of look. By the second half it definitely became your point tho
The lady's facial expressions whenever Jordan is speaking is just wholesome... The cameran understood the assignment
😂😂😂👍
The Live Director is the person who chooses which camera is used in which situations and directs the Technical Director who operates the switcher.
The cameraman filming the lady is assigned to film only the lady.. so yes, you are correct, he probably understood the assignment.
You have to respect the Scandinavians, they actually let him speak more than a few seconds.
Josh Deal All Talk Shows should be like this. Let everybody talk and listen...then answer. I think that’s so much more productive.
I just ADOOOREEEE Skavlan! When i want comedy/entertainment i watch Graham Norton, when i want to learn what's in the head of a person i am interested in (Ester Perel, Adele, Jordan B.Peterson, Sofia Helig, Ricky Gervais, some people from European cultural/political scene) - i click Skånlan. He is an amazing listener, but even more the audience amazes me, so modest, nice people...
@@judasiscariot8396 He's just an immature little fuckboy acting all edgy by having that account-name.
@@innominatum9906 you said, to a guy who called himself Judas Iscariot. lol
You don't know what you are seeing here. It is not a matter of letting him speak. It is that Peterson is far too cerebral for these people to react quickly, and they are a bit intimidated when encountering English speakers. It is important to note that this discussion goes WAY outside the box of allowed discourse in Scandinavia. They have never heard such arguments before. Notice at 8:00, Annie Lööf does not actually address the point being discussed, but simply slips back into a very safe cookie-cutter discussion about the kind of world she wants her children to live in with regard to equality. Any Swede in a group of 2 or more people would express that opinion exactly the same was as if they had a string in the backs of their necks to pull in order to talk automatically.
Swedish discussion programmes on TV that feature only Swedes speaking Swedish are constant shouting matches. The topics of discussion tend to be banal and pedestrian anyway. This particular show is very much the exception.
It amazes me how many of these interviewers just do not understand the difference between 'equality of opportunity' and 'equality of outcome'.
this is basically the entire problem
In my opinion idea of equal outcome it is a product of envy. The belief that one person having something that another does not is unfair. The fantasy that two people have the same job should be paid the same even if they perform at different levels. Now that I think about it, could it be about self worth? You being paid more than me suggests that you are worth more than I am. People on the left need constant validation, they need to feel of equal value as people.
@@doomnotron there are plenty of examples of this disconnect even when there is no language barrier.
Virtue signaling is not logical.
I'm a bit new to this terminology. So is Peterson arguing that we should have "equality of opportunity" while the feminists want "equality of outcome"? Or am I getting them mixed up? Can someone please clarify
"The lack of our best hurts everything" - best part for me
When he speaks, you can’t help but to be struck by his wisdom.
Amén to that ! I agree wholeheartedly 😅
How could they argue with someone who's been a Psychologist, University lecturer, WROTE books, reads books (not BS ones) and debates people like Slavoj Zizek?
They tried to win by having an interviewer w a st00p1d smirk, an opportunist politician and a bum looking weasel guy. Altogether they have 3 braincells.
The look on her face for all 38 minutes is like she’s still trying to take in the fact that 25 years of science contradicts her opinion
I understand she wants to empower her daughter but saying that boys have its easy, to make a success on this planet is not fair, and what the science shows what happens when you try to force a square peg in a round hole... Maybe I'm wrong but that what understand.
I don't think they understood what he was saying. I mean the questions they had were pretty strange given the discussion of Peterson
Paranoix _ the majority of people with similarly-themed false beliefs continue to embrace them and live in denial since it brings them more comfort and value - sadly though this simultaneously continues the spread of misinformation and the damage it causes. Hopefully she’s able to acknowledge the truth and move forward comfortably with it
The smile on her face when Peterson referenced her topic and acknowledges agreeableness :D 27:45
Christ, I just had to pause the video to say just this. That look confusion mixed with self-righteous indignation is just so pathetic. And she just keeps fucking repeating herself as if simply repeating what she feels to be true enough times, he'll eventually stop refuting her points and go 'oh, I'm sorry; you're right'.
It's just disgusting.
Peterson's patience with people CONSTANTLY misunderstanding him, even when sitting in front of him, is simply unmatched
seriously! It's like they already made up their mind about him and his views and so when he comes on and has completely logical answers to their "gotcha" questions that aren't extremist or mysogenistic, it doesnt even matter! It's like they don't even hear him. They just hear what they thought he was going to say lol
Its not missunderstanding. Its trying to lead the person thats hearing this to the wrong conclusions. "So what you are saying is...." and peterson has great experience in not falling for that. Once you hear his answer you realise that the question is stupid/missleading and you recognise that....hopefully.
I don’t think they could unpack his ideas fast enough to keep up. I think he loses them at times and they revert back to “everyone should be equal because that’s fair”. He has mastered patience, no doubt.
@@justwondering1967 Really? To me it's just a blowhard kind of dog paddling through any and every question with the same answer, ..." That's not what I meant".
I thought about this I think its because of the way he talks. He talks like a robot.
This man has been an angel on earth. He’s causing an tremendous positive impact on our decadent world. I’m so grateful for having him spreading verities around. It was much needed.
Agree. He's one in a gazillion.
He IS greatly needed
Hope and humility. He's
like an elevator that makes us see the big picture of where we come from, where we are and where we seems to go. This vertical ascending shows how fragile is humans in this chaos but also the strength we also have available to fight against our own prejudice and vulnerability. Such great ambassador for humanty.
A skillful interview because he actually listened and let his guest speak which is, after all why he's there.👏👏👏👏
i have never heard such utter nonsense in my life. He is a bully and a narcisist. And golf is silly , Graham is a silly name. I think you should shut up and listen more to your older and wiser brothers.
It's genuinely scary how many people can't grasp the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome
mate, spot on. I was trying to come up with a better word than scary, but I couldn't!
Maybe it also have somthing to do with the fact that many people want what they wrongly consider a "fair" world, where nobody schould be better then the next person, many people have a hard time grasping, that some are born with a higher IQ and some just higher and some are more beautiful and others seem`s to have all the luck or are born in to a family who made a lot of good choices in the past and get a advantages that way Etc. Etc. Etc. insted of playing the hand they where giving and get the most out of it, they whine about a unfair world.
"There have always been and always will be those who are driven by hate and want to blame those who are happy, creative and productive for their misery." --Terry Goodkind.
one of the biggest factors in the destruction of the west
@Skitzofrenix "Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination."--Thomas Sowell.
"Ours may become the first civilization destroyed, not by the power of our enemies, but by the ignorance of our teachers and the dangerous nonsense they are teaching our children. In an age of artificial intelligence, they are creating artificial stupidity." --Thomas Sowell.
Equality of opportunity is a myth as long as "Inheritance" is in play. Inheritance of both assets and liabilities. Ban inheritance and then we'll talk equality of opportunity.
They always ask "why is your audience primarily male" early on like they are gonna catch him being misogynist or something. Every damn time
I've noticed the same thing. They always ask it with such suspicion, like there's something wrong with that. So fucking annoying.
Yup so annoying
It's a pretty reasonable question....
@@trollnerd It is a reasonable question, but you need to take context into account. There's a recurring pattern among every interviewer who asked him that question. It's not a coincidence.
I am his female viewer and I am baffled by this question every time. Of course his advice is primarily for men, so it will attract more men. But he's not excluding women and any woman can learn a heck of a lot from listening to him, especially when it comes to choosing a partner for life and family. I learned what to be aware of and what to seek. I actually WANT more men listening to him and taking his advice to heart.
Thank God that we have Jordan Peterson to speak to us in a way that resonates to our very soul.
He speaks from the heart, and combines this with great moral principles.
I find his speaking to be educational, inspiring and full of hope, that good will triumph evil, and give someone a meaning to their existence.
May God continue to bless you Jordan.
🙏
This man is my new hero, I can't get enough of his conversations.
Ironically Dr Peterson's arguments and attitude are far more caring and respectful towards women than feminism.
Exactly, a lot of women are realizing it thankfully
Hahahahaha it’s actually fucking hilarious
@HandyMan101 Thats not a true statement...
@HandyMan101 well, that's narrow-minded statement. Woman is there to provide next generations,she grows a person inside her and for this reason I hate when men say "women love men conditionally". Can you raise and educate your kids , pay your flat bills, get food without money? Just with your unconditional manly love? Then me as a woman cannot, I need food, place to live etc and if I create a family with a man I want a man to be able to support me and our children! So I find your statement humiliating..
@HandyMan101 lmao, you have nothing to support your point so instead of replying to my questions you just threw in a general bullshit, haha, thanks for proving me and the whole order of the family and life right!:))
You can see from their faces thinking, ‘this guy makes sense but we can’t let him win easily’
That's how you can know they aren't operating in good faith. None of this is ever really about making things better, always about implementing a belief in what they think is better. Ego and narcissism. Power. Nothing more.
@@SdotThompson I'll actually disagree on the bad faith aspect of your comment. As with all good idea you shouldn't just immediately take what makes sense in one aspect and then not carefully scrutinise it, let's not forget that these people have their own ideology and trying to rationalise both the pre existing and new idea, so of course they will try analyse what dr. JBP is saying. I believe that other than some pointed questions by the host, that this was an incredibly civilised and rational conversation compared to other talks.
To be honest, it was a better conversation because of it. I want to see how he handles these things so I can learn from it. Just agreeing wouldn't be fun.
@@SdotThompson What governs it all is the virallity of the content. They can't let him win easily because content matters, or else you could just put a text-to-speech voice on a blank screen: no one would share it.
Also the answer for this computational problem is truth.
Without a shadow of doubt, when JP speaks about how his father spent time with him, despite his being a 'task-master', and especially when he recalls the feedback from people on the positive effect he has had on them, it touches his heart profoundly. It's like the recognition that his work on building individuals' self-esteem gives his life true significance. You can see that he is close to crying.
He is both highly cognitively and emotionally intelligent, as well as being intellectually competent. Powerful gifts he has. Must also be exhausting and lonely at times.
People think they'll have a discussion with him but his level of genius is quite unmatched. He just talks sense and has done his research to make him an expert with tremendous knowledge and outstanding communication skills. I really admire his heart and mind.
Nice to see that people who disagree can still have a good discussion without sorting to verbal personal attacks. Respect!
It's shocking that saying "men and women are different" is shocking
He's just saying the most obvious, simple things in a concise way and everyone thinks it's mind-blowing. Like he says, this stuff isn't even contested amongst those who study the field.
I don't understand how it's controversial in the least.
Yeah, all of a sudden biological common sence is controversial...
Damn you and your pesky statistics and data. As the lady says in this video after hearing exhaustively scientifically proven facts: I disagree
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The bald interviewer was asking Peterson for a way to divorce his wife
Ikr!!! "hm hm hm .. how old does the kid have to be for me to gtfo?"
He was already divorced at that point. That's why he was interested in the topic.
This made me laugh a lot.
Lol I read this hilarious comment right when he started to inquire lol 😂
Looked like it! It's pretty much the only subject he asked clarifications for.
I love how they actually are interested him as a person. They let him speak and calmly try to understand his opinions whether or not it matches theirs.
What a pleasure to see educated and, more importantly, respectful adults going about their business. I’ve huge admiration for all 4.
Jordan has them absolutely transfixed.
He doesnt provoke me, he makes me think clearer.
"Provoking" is how some people can barely conceptualize what are actually just challenging ideas.
@@FabianJacquin After "provoke" comes "offensive" then micro aggression...
@@bluejeans5770 Yes! then "hate speech" and "violent speech" which is how the extremists justify protests and getting physically violent because you are committing "violence" with your speech
He's a thought provocateur.
Same
Jordan Peterson: "Science has shown" "Studies have shown"
Others: "I think" "I feel"
Anonymous that all the left have. In the centre we deal in fact.
They are hell-bent on social activism, empirical evidence is just an annoyance to them.
@@MrStuartp :: You do understand that you're talking about two different groups of one political party, yes? God, we humans are so flawed with our tribal thinking...
@@cgme7076 I think you are not getting what I am saying, bit quick to judge.
I'm referring to the feminist politician. Peterson lays out how gender quotas have been done, studied and failed. Yet she still has to hold on to her ideology and simply state she 'disagrees', like that's an argument against what he is saying?
Maybe watch the video again so you understand lol.
Paul Stuart :: You said “they” not “feminists”. Thanks for clarifying.
This man is a living book of good advice, supported by data and science. I listen to him every day. Thank you Jordan 💜
I could listen to him for days.
His ideology is basically, make children strong so they can be useful to society despite their gender and race love this guy
So simple and so true. He's the only one that came into the conversation to have a conversation, the rest came to score points and profess their virtue.
That'd be true if he wouldn't base his ideology on religious dogmas
@@sacryss I understand why you would presume that because on a surface level, it certainly seems that way. But in listening to his lectures on Genisis and his talks with Bret Weinstein and Sam Harris, he’s no religious nut. He isn’t a biblical literalist. He draws a lot of fundamental truths from religious texts without accrediting them with any scientific recognition. From an atheists perspective, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
@@sacryss only certain fundamentals. I was raised Christian. Got away from church early. Never enjoyed it. However I am also morally based in certain Christian fundamentals. Not all of course.
You can't even call it an ideology really. It should be common sense.
Why do people have such a hard time understanding the difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome? Also why are people so shocked to hear that men and women tend to make different choices and have different priorities in their lives? Men and women are different. It is not a difficult concept.
In their minds difference = bad
@@MattieK09 Sorry to bother you mate but are you saying that the same people that support multiculturalism and LGBT rights consider differences to be bad? I mean you're probably not saying that but in that case your comment is an oversimplification that doesn't give credit to the swedes when it's due.
@@henriklybeck579 Well that's not a accurate way to frame them. But, YES, those in the cult of intersectionality do not like any facts that are adverse to their narrative. Literally 1000s of YT vids you can watch.
@@MattieK09 I mistook you to be making a generalised statement about swedes, which you obviously weren't, so I did the same. I agree with you though so thanks for opening up your comment.
Yeah, but the weird thing is, I think the lady really truly believed it when she shared her thoughts around 12:30 in such a striking way.. Peterson has mentioned the swedish situation before, but these people are treating him like he just dropped off of mars.. look at how silent they are.. She really believes that a person is plastic, that parenting/culture can shape a person.. and what if she's actually right.. As for Peterson from the Americas, where the push for individuality, personality, loudness, and selection for elevated testosterone actually occurs more naturally, perhaps he is mistaken that this translates easily to areas of the world that are perhaps on a different course.. maybe Scandinavia is actually a few generations away from real ambivalence of outcome.. (science may observe, but perhaps doesn't entirely know where humans are heading).. Perhaps toward the historically murky territory of pre-christian european culture, which I haven't heard peterson really speak on, which contained a variety of queens and powerful priestesses, and perhaps more equality in the hierarchy at times.. some of these dark web intellectuals should maybe talk about the social structures of pre-christian europe (edited for my poor grammar that I don't want to remain here forever)
I was very impressed with all the people who took part in this discussion
It was so different to many interviews or shows featuring Jordan Peterson which can wind up being unpleasantly combative.
Those asking the questions seemed to genuinely want to find out what made him tick. And they did a pretty good job of that.
The questions were insightful and fair. And the sorts of things a lot would want to know about Jordan Peterson.
I’m assuming they had quite different perspectives than he had on a number of issues. But that didn’t motivate them to try to catch him out. They seemed to want to genuinely learn about him.
I congratulate them all. There was a real gentleness and fairness shown by everyone. And we all learnt something.
It’s the best interview I’ve seen of Jordan Peterson.
All the guests were so respectful ! Thank you for the kind and calm discussion
I love that even though they all disagree with him, they're all letting him respond fully. This is what I like to watch.
I mean, this is probably more of a show where if they speak out of turn they have to leave. Also Jordans more out of whack discussions have been with the host who controls the conversation.
I agree. But it's also because they are incapable to interject, and seemingly having a hard time digesting the facts Jordan brought on them.
they had some humility. indoctrinated likely, but in the face of competence had the strength of character to entertain the possibility that they were wrong, or at least they could improve. this is NOT an example of a leftist. this is an example of a liberal, commendable work.
Well, i agree, they let him talk. What else could they do? They at least understood that they had nothing to say at the level of Peterson.
@@orangswiss8946 there's people like cethey newman who just spits bullshit eventhough she knows none
I get so frustrated with this woman every time I see this interview. She's not listening at all. She just keeps saying, "so, what's wrong with equality then" and he's not saying there's anything wrong. He's saying equality leads to diversity of choice, meaning people may not choose the same paths. It is not hard to understand!
I will give her respect.. I mean, you should see some of the Americans interviewing women that want to talk about Gender equality with him, oh man.. so unnecessarily rude.. She listened more than most, though she may have doubted his ideals, you can see she was trying to understand in her eyes
Yea nothing she says even has anything to do with what hes saying.
I K R? 😆 It's the "I know you are but what am I? " approach to reason.
*massive difference in intellectual capacity, she wasn't able to follow what he was saying, let alone formulate an ongoing debate...
Agreed. It seems to me that what she wants is for children to be raised gender neutral, that girls and boys can think alike ignoring DNA or whatever it is that makes the genders inherently different. She fails to comprehend that equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. Even though girls have the opportunity to become fighter pilots they may not become fighter pilots by choice. So the outcome isn't an equal number of men vs women pilots.
Just rewatched this, the most respectful conversation with Dr Peterson by people that disagree with him on certain topics 😊
Some of the facial expressions on Fredrik's face as Jordan was making certain points in a very direct way were just "PURE GOLD"! He couldn't believe what he was hearing! Haha!
Who else noticed that Jordan Peterson just gave these people a free therapy session?
And he gave all of us a great lecture :)... I really wish him the best
good point.
Sure as hell wasn't free, tho🤣 likely one of the most expensive sessions he's ever given lol
I legit thought the bearded lad was actually there for therapy hahaha
😹😹😹😹😹 so true 🤘🏾🤘🏾
That lady’s confused face can only be the result of her realizing her entire world view is a sham
we all went through the same the first time we met peterson
shez more nuts than our resident squirrels
@@sanchitverma8687 my entire world isnt a shhammmm. I have had to learn and change.
@Eric Miret good for you
@@davidturner1641 obviously it was a joke. we all found enlightening insights when we first heard what peterson had to say.
I so often come back here to listen to this conversation again. I am so impressed by how he manages to make his point so clear and almost undiputeable, how easy it seems for him to answer to these really diffucult questions and how he also can show himself as someone with empathy and good will for all the people out there. It's like listening to the best possible mentor/teacher that could ever exist. Thank you Mr Peterson, I hope you can go on and enlighten us for a long time to come.
This was actually incredible, I’m always in awe but the way Peterson is articulating himself relentlessly here is extraordinary
Jordan Peterson: "The science, the literature, the history, the data, the statistics..."
Annie Loof: "I feel..."
Ben Shapiro enters
@@reznovnata3889 shapiro is a controlled RINO, he is glenn becks little jew
@@balazamon what?????
@@reznovnata3889 ben shapiro is controlled opposition, he is glenn becks clone and is part of the never trump opposition. he lied about lewandowski and is nothing more than a shill
The Three Fs of female speech: Feel, Felt, and Feeling.
"I just feel so...", "And it made me feel like...", "I'm feeling...", "I felt so..."
Who needs Logic & Reason when you have feelings & emotions?
I literally cannot understand why people find JP so "controversial."
I agree. I could understand someone subscribing to different data and forming a different opinion but as he says, he is simply telling the truth as he sees it.
because he speaks truth to power....the culture today does not care about truth they care about irrational emotional behaviour and giving into those feelings to the detrement of the individual or society...it will create more grievances and more authoritarian behaviours...in extreme cases, persecutions!
Never underestimate people's capacity for ignoring/denying uncomfortable truths.
Arrogance. Narcissism. Watch her face as the interview goes on. From about the 15 min mark every time the camera cuts to her, her smirk is growing, as she's retreating into what she believes and building and submitting to her own confirmation bias of "this pos". Now what I want to see is her watch this back, with a body language expert breaking it down to her. Doesn't even consider his points, which are backed by between 25 and 100 years of psychological study.
@@SamohtNox and often they are such miserable people that when they force people to also think the way they do, it is satisfying. Either the power over others or their own feeling of moral superiority drives them. No facts can tell them they shouldn't believe these things. The people in power either have ulterior motives or honestly feel they know what is best for us better than we know what is best for us.
Thank you Skavlan, for doing shows like this.
I feel sorry for Jordan, he gets far to much abuse from people who have only ever heard an out of context sound bite and never taken the time to truly listen to him. The guy is nothing short of a hero!
An actual interview and a discussion about topics they disagreed on. Not a non-stop barrage of attacks or attempts to smear him. Up vote
Yeah, Finally!
@@vakhtangi24 no they tried
I think the host asked because he geniunely didn't understand. Trying to live by leftist media ideology gets confusing I'm sure.
I do not think they even understood the point of ( outcome ) or preferences, men and women are equal but they obviously have different preferences ( at least in certain areas of life ) , that is normal, why are they being skeptical about it?!
I was thinking the exact same thing, made me reflect.
They were however far more courteous than any American liberal would've been.
Maybe but Americans (and more specifically those living in the north of the US) tend to more blunt/straight forward than people in the EU about everything so it may seem that way when they are really just as angry (if your talking about the crazy activists). There are radical and rude people for every opinion that exists.
@@dr.martinlroberts1908 I find Europeans (especially Germans and Scandinavians ) to be shockingly blunt :P
there was a massive level of passive/agressive going on. levels of which should not be possible.
American liberals like Sam Harris? You participate in the same identity politics that Peterson was criticizing yet are completely unaware. You should listen to his ideas more closely.
I don't think they understood what he was saying. The blonde said that women in her culture should be able to go into whatever job, right after Peterson said that was fine.
I actually love how these people do not interrupt him while not necessarily agree with him. This is what interviews and debates should look like. Well done Scandinavia! Definitely subscribed.
This is probably the best interview in the history of the world given the setting, the timing, the group dynamic, the duration, its the perfect balance, thank you to all involved
Why can't people understand this man?
He is speaking with facts. He isn't biased.
I do understand him 🙂 Love being a woman, love hid message. I find it to be true.
I think you answered your own question.
They just hear the labels that other biased individuals place on him to fit their own agendas, i.e. "Jewish shill" vs "nazi".
It breaks my heart that people don't actually hear his message. So much good to get out of it for people of any gender or color. Be the best you can be, take on the responsibilities that frighten you and meet those challenges, and thereby create a meaningful life. So many people are looking for meaning these days. It's easy, it's within you.
Because many people are incompetent.....that's why people like him exist in the first place
Because they are biased. They are emotionally invested in their own world view and resent that the facts don't agree with what they already believe to be true. It can't be that they are wrong, so it must be him.
Lmao the bald guy sneaked in a quick therapy session for himself
Hahaha that's what I was thinking. When he said "Go back to the divorce question" I knew he wanted some therapy lol
Yeah balled guy legit red pilled in front of our eyes
🤣🤣🤣🤣
HAHAHAHA
Hairist :)
Far too often people are unable to translate their thoughts into accurate words of description.
Peterson commands the English language like it’s an extension of his brain.
It’s simply incredible.
How fast he swiches between topics and bombards them with knowledge and proper argument. His intelligence is monumental ❤
Jordan: cites 25 years of constantly replicated scientific studies and factual data
Blonde girl: well I don’t think that
Common Sense how does that come into play here at all? Please explain
Common Sense trump derangement syndrome is real...you are my example.
I watched a TED talk about this feminist who was making a documentary about mens rights activists, and she goes on to say how she wasnt actually listening to them but just waiting for them to say something offensive, ect. She realised that what was the piont if they didnt listen, people's veiws may differ, but that doesnt mean we cant LISTEN.
@@rbike3032 That was most interesting to watch to see her explain how she didn't understand what she had been doing. How it took her a long time to see herself and the other side and break free of her ideology. It had so much power of her.
Its more like: "I don't feel that is true." That is the irony .
He is a master at speaking to people who hate him and don't understand him.
He’s the one where there is an attempt at being “provoked” - he simply chooses not to be.
What about the people who dislike him and DO understand him ?
@@palmereldritch7777 There are plenty of those people, and many of the things they say are worth listening to, but I've never seen or heard him be interviewed by someone like that.
@@erichaynes4049 Interviewed or debated ?
As an interviewer you hopefully give your interviewee the space to make his own statements. You just ask a question, and you can ask a tricky question, but you don't engage in criticism - cause hey if you're not gonna fight it, then you are having a debate, not an interview.
Seeing more and more debates with Peterson, with people who do understand him and see where he's getting at ....and simply don't agree with his premises and the stuff he just assumes to be true.
For example his analysis of Bible stories, going deeper and deeper, is for him a proof of Judeo Christian tradition being on a higher level than other religions. Uhmmm, Really? why ? Just because he can look deeper and deeper nd see more meaning?
Hell, you can look at any work of art worth it's salt and find deeper and deeper meaning in infinite layers. You can look at the stars and find infinite meaning. (and people did and do- even Judeo Christians).
so does that make the Bible a "special book above all others" ? Mweeeh, no, not from where i'm standing.
And his analysis itself seems to be on somewhat shaky ground- projecting his own ideas into the book. (for the record i think the Bible was more or less designed that way - hence you have 100 and counting different varieties of bible interpretation and which one is the correct one? Jordan Peterson's ?). so is it the book, the stories as Peterson himself claims? Or the interpreter?.
Personally i'd say it usually falls somewhere in between. There are a few scientists and artists who can communicate exactly what they want. but even then it is what people get out of it - or not.
Butin the end that doesn't make the Bible a "special" book. just A book. (with some interminable boring passages between some good yarns. And a couple that make no sense whatsoever- you know the one)
@@XFR18 yup, and if he can't get his message across that well, maybe he has a problem in communicating. On the whole I'd say it's quite clear though and the more I listen to him the more holes appear in his narrative.
27:19 I love it when JP laugh 🥹 he’s such a dad. Our favorite internet dad ❤️
Jordan is so incredibly well spoken
“The evidence proves that you are wrong.”
“I don’t agree.”
Lol that was so unbelievable
When a politician meets science....
www.enbartpolitik.com
Hahaha well put
Your evidence appalls me.I'm switching to another study.
This. Like wtf.
The lady is staring at Jordan like he's a bright LED and she cant really handle it
Please keep in mind that English is not her first language, so she has to translate what he is saying. Don't get me wrong, she can speak and understand English very well, but it is more difficult.
Tony Friendly yea but look at the way she looks at him when he’s talking about gender. It’s different from when Jordan is talking about his childhood
@@tonyfriendly4409 I was going to say, that has nothing to do with the way she’s looking at him. Then I realized her facial expression could definitely be at fault of concentration as well, if that’s what you were trying to say.
@@SlewedDog Huh
That lady went to the bilderberg meeting for some reason
Thank you for posting this I am so grateful for talks like these
This was the most respectful interview I have ever seen with Jordan Peterson. Normally the others present make constant attempts to tear him down, prove him wrong or set verbal traps.
Thank you for this well-spoken and respectful delivery.
Jordan Peterson: "The data shows quite clearly..."
Someone else: "But I don't feel like..."
Jordan Peterson: "THE. DATA. SHOWS. QUITE. CLEARLY...."
And Remember these are the same people who claim to believe so strongly in science. Obvious they only use when convenient, ignore when they don't like. They're the true science deniers.
yet the data on climate change or the existence of god he can ignore right?
@Jim Browski the right are wildly anti intellectual, climate change, trans (studies are out), trickle down..always wrong about everything, systemic racism, fucking wearing masks and corona virus, election fraud. You have to be partially lobotomized to be on the right
@@RawMaterialENT Nothing here has anything to do with "The Right" or "The Left". Forcing people to be either with you or against you is a great way to push people away from you.
@@RawMaterialENT your tribalism is on full blast.
I was impressed by the questions that were asked. In American media, the interviewer never, ever, ever asks about the interviewee. The interviewers just argue, smirk and talk over them. Probably one of the best interviews I've seen in a while.
watch JP and a british legend Russell Brand conversations, they are really good
Yes!
The Questions Were Amazing.
Well that's American Televsision for you, since your best Interviewers are either Dead or in Prison.
YES
@@joethomas8640 british legend ?
Yes, thank you. I enjoyed the clip because you were not attacking the guest, you were having a conversation and you were listening attentively, you were present, and asking questions. Thank you.
I never understand one word this man says , but I can listen to him for hours on end , his tone is so reassuring , and comforting
Jordan Peterson is the living definition of “your boos mean nothing. I’ve seen what you cheer”
I've never heard that phrase before, thats a good one! And youre so right too!
wow! this a nice way to look at it.
@@infinityrobot rick and morty reference mate
@@jamesnicholson4060 its a Rick and Morty reference
@@rodrigueselemani3199 Oh shiiit haha! It is too hahah! Legend, cheers for that Lonewolf!
I cant unhear it in Ricks voice now haha!
I love how there is no interrupting. Why can’t anyone else at least do this
Many Scandinavians I have met have shown this kind of politeness. I think it is a cultural thing.
@@buellterrier3596 It is a cultural thing. We learn it, at least I did, from a young age not to interrupt, else it turns into chaos.
@@andreasaa2000 And that is one of the reasons why I love Scandinavian people and their culture. I met some of my best friends from there. I hope you never change and stay a good example for the world.
I agree, Scandanavian people are extremely polite.
watch any Indian Debate and you will lose your mind. no kidding, just try
The way he speaks is so unfiltered that you can tell by how he speaks how much he knows and how honest he is.
Did anyone else notice the guy in the brown sweater, genuinely wanted information from Jordan about how to help his situation. He knew this was the best opportunity to get help from one of the greatest psychiatric clinicians. He understood the truth to Dr. Petersons words and motivations.
"Admitting vulnerability is not weakness. It's courage."
They cannot grasp the concept that to admit vulnerability is courageous, while vulnerabilities within themselves are in no way virtuous or automatically 'brave'.
Admitting vulnerability is like saying: "I have a weak spot, right here, see? You can strike it if you want. I can handle that. It won't destroy me."
Nothing's weak about it, as long as that is true. If you can survive when your vulnerability is exploited you can survive anything.
Pretending there is no vulnerability is to be afraid that you can't, in fact, survive that.
Facts!
@@MrRavellon Actually, what Dr. Peterson meant is that to admit vulnerability is to accept that there's something wrong with you and that you've gotta fix that. And to fix that, you often have to "go into the unknown". Pretending that there is nothing wrong with you is to avoid facing the facts/truth about yourself in order to avoid having to do anything about it, which means you can stay in your little comfort zone.
@@justinkim7202 no, that's weakness you're talking about. Weakness is a flaw. Vulnerability is not. Anything you care about deeply enough creates vulnerability in you. To "fix" those vulnerabilities you would have to stop caring. That's not a good thing.
I love that he was under attack at first and then ended up being a therapist for the rest of the panel.
Your characterisation of this interaction is very insightful. Thank for sharing!
He does that to everyone that tries to denounce him and his message. They end up getting a free session from the best clinical psychologist in the world. #LongLiveDrP
YES! LOVE JP! 😃
@@Orson2u What do you mean? They attempted many times to compartmentalize his arguments for a "win" and misrepresent his arguments in order to get a "win". The consistent looks they give him during the interview are smirking smugness and doubt, just waiting for a logical slip to pounce on.
You're out of your damn mind of you think this panel wasn't in most parts hostile towards his position.
@@krislynn5965 just because they were hostile doesn’t mean they weren’t getting a therapy session. They were subconsciously receiving therapy. Go watch again.
One of the best interviews, thank you.
I know this is an old video, i am from Denmark, and its super clear that a huge problem with Jordan Peterson is that most people misunderstand him, he is using many words people dont know, that is of cause not him being wrong, but it is him being right, without others understand what he is saying.. You see people fishing for examples all the time when talking with Jordan Peterson, and many times he gives an example when asked, but the example is just as hard to understand.. He need to remember that he isnt talking with someone like himself, he is talking with "normal" people.. and when he do interview with people who dont even know english very well, like here, he really need to talk like he would talk to someone 10 years old..
Jordan Peterson is so amazing, it is just hard to agree with someone you dont understand.. And that is really one problem we have in the world, alot of stupid people have alot of power, and if the smart people cant talk in a way so the stupid can understand, it helps nothing to have all these smart people.
That really makes sense, even someone like me whose first language is English needs to look up words he uses. One thing I would push back on though is communication is a two way street. Peterson can try to talk in a way that's easier to comprehend but the listener must also give him the benefit of the doubt. If they don't fully understand don't fill in the gaps with the worst possible ideas.
@@matts6139 You see many clips of JP saying things like Men and Women are not the same, and we should accept that.. and that there really isnt any pay gap between Men and Women.. that creates a first impression of JP that make it that much harder for some people, mainly women, to understand what he is really saying.. So if these people are not told what he really is saying, in a way they can understand, their mind will never change.. that is not the fault of JP, but just a fact of life, and if JP want to help people, he need to speak so they can understand..
Its like when i want to talk computer programming with my mom who is 77, i need to change everything to normal life examples.. :D
But i get what you say, i just wanted to share what i feel is a problem with amazing people like JP, not a problem with JP, but a problem for JP.. :S
Have an amazing day.
" Men should hug and kiss his children"??? That Lady is not even in the same conversation and Jordan looks so disappointed.
Ahh I just attribute it to english not being her first language. I think she had good intentions but it did seem that most of what Jordan was saying was just flying over her head.
She had already made up her mind about JPs standpoint. She wasnt listening to a thing he said.
Jordan: Equal opportunity is the best!
Woman: For me it's simple... I want equal opportunity
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 I wish I could agree with that full-heartedly but I can’t help but think that she knew exactly what he said and she still went on a tangent about essentially nothing. “Men should hug and kiss his children.” Yes!... They’ve been doing that for centuries now. From how she spoke she’s acting as though men don’t have any capacity to express love to their offspring. They do, they have plenty of capacity to do so even in the context of say, the 1950s. (You know, that dreaded era that all women don’t want to go back to yet they still carry values from that era that says, “my man must have more money then I do!”) From how this women spoke it was like she was talking down to everyone.
@@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Idk, felt like Jordan’s applause breaks were killing her.
The problem with women today is that they expect the special treatment they claim to hate.
their facial expressions trying to understand what Peterson is talking about is fantastic
I was thinking the same thing lol
I don't think that their facial expressions are ones of not understanding; I think the expressions are basically that he doesn't know what he is talking about, and they just waiting to try and unravel what he is saying and throw it back in his face to try and discredit and undermine his expertise.
Jordan is the expert: the 3 amigos are not.
@@jeffferris7844 it's both. I've had that look before. It's partially the look of attempting to process the concepts after having to translate them to your native language. It will give you a headache if you do it for too long
Jeff ferris Aside from Peterson virtually never having an opinion about anything he can’t back up with solid facts and evidence, I don’t think the participants so much disagreed with him as they had difficulty understanding a fairly sophisticated level of English, as well as difficulty expressing their thoughts in the same fashion about a complex topic. Maybe I’m wrong, but those facial expressions looked to me like inquisitive fascination with a sprinkle of confusion.
Many people in the comment field is giving the people in the panel a hard time for being too sensitive, missing the point, etc. I don’t think that’s it at all. This is not the Trump/Biden presidential debate, it’s Sweden (Norwegian host), where people respectfully listen and ask questions to try to understand each other and maybe find common ground.
I couldn't tell if it was a language barrier, or disdain.
The woman and the interviewer listening to Peterson with a smile is hilarious. The expression "damn he makes sense" sums it up perfectly.
God bless Jordan. His respectful arguments and respect for the others show us how to be impressive in presenting ourselves to the world.
How to prevent divorce:
1. Learn to negotiate
2. Be clear about what you want
3. Resolve conflicts as they arise
4. Tell the truth
Absolutely, and one other point, which imo has to Top that list - figure all of that shit out BEFORE marrying.
5.) Buy her A HUGE 💍💎
6. Never leave any bruises
It's a JOKE
@@Xfranman no man Diamonds are a scam only for people to spend money thats BS.. create something on your own and gift it to your special one ..
Simpler alternative..............do not get married. Do not let her start moving her things in. Do not let yourself be guilted or otherwise coerced into taking the relationship any further then you are comfortable with. If at some point you start thinking about marriage, buy your house and anything of any real value that you dont want to loose at least a year before you get married. Do not let her move in till after you are married. If she doesnt like that idea and starts in with "but sweetheart, I want us to buy a house together" then she is not after your love. She is securing her retirement and pre-buying her boarding tickets on the cock carousel all at your expense. I'm not telling anyone what to do. Just offering a few helpful hints to avoid what so many of my friends went through. Oh, and above all, when it comes to lawyers, retain yours first and spare no expense. Good luck.
"People are stronger than their misfortunes."
"The lack of their best hurts everything!"
"Can't get any better than that."
Three perfect quotes........and he was barely even trying.
All these speakers have very pleasant faces. They are open and really listening to each other.
These guys just indirectly had a therapy session with Peterson. seeking advice
Hims D Lee for sure. I actually felt bad for the bald guy. He was clearly seeking advice for his own personal situation with children and a wife he’s grown apart from. He had a definite look of sadness when Jordan was talking about kids benefiting from having a two parent household.
@@tee4222 When Jordan said 45, the bald guy seemed distraught
He informs all of them and they prefer to hold on to their rather uninformed opinions. It simply strikes them at their core. The coherence in his arguments are astounding.
I think he is amazing. I am reading his 12 rules book.
when a feminist crying then another feminist tells her don't cry or Jordan Peterson will and then the feminist died
Peterson: "Men and women are different"
Everyone else: "So you hate women?!
Also:
Peterson: “it’s awesome that all people, men and women, have equal opportunities”
Female politician: “I don’t agree with that because I want my daughter to have the same opportunities”
Peterson: You have to deal with problems as they arise
Also Peterson: *Eats all the Klonopin*
@@charlestruppi7793 I think she was aggreeing on that regard
@@jackcottington9970 It's obvious watching his older videos that he was on Xannies,
@@stehfreejesseah7893 The best parts of Peterson is always the stuff he chooses to leave out. Like the idea that the just like the wise king is the counterpart to the tyrant, the adaptable citizenry(in the form of a stable democracy) is the counterpart of chaos. And just as order is associated with the masculine and therefore strength; chaos the feminine and therefore care. I really hope that it has occurred to him at this point that the thing he is railing against in the modern world is the thing that he missed in himself. I say that not because I dislike the man, on the contrary, I hope he recovers with inside and is able to help others.
All the people on that stage were very attentive which i loved watching.
I was happy to see the exchange of thoughts.
Beautiful ❤️
he’s so so good it’s almost unbeliveable man i understand everything he is talking about
The bald guy listened to Jordan speak and then realised he needed to divorce his wife
It was a free psychological analysis of his marriage and what to tell his children after he hands his wife the papers.
yeah it get the vibes from him that he is very personally interested in that case lmao
Seriously he asked like multiple questions about it and even when they had moved on from the subject lol
LOL... so true ! LOL
LOL
Look at how civil and quiet these people are while Peterson talks, even though they don't agree.
ryan milovich good point and I agree with you but I also think they are learning not only about him but in general.
ryan milovich because they don’t have the intellectual capacity too have a realistic debate with Peterson.Its not a good strategy too listen if you not agree, furthermore if it is on camera. If you suggest that is good, a Dialogue from Peterson without that people would be much better
@@Ashlanmilo9814 I am speaking more on the difference between these people and your typical American.
ryan milovich yes because Americans are taught to be confident no matter what.
One guy showed the stats that they rate lower than average in education international ratings, but they are at the top when it comes to confidence.
@@rileymilovich That will change. The reason Scandinavian people/Canadian people are considered more polite is because they haven't been infected with multi-culturalism to the degree that America has. Once they get a more diverse nation and the politics center around their differences like America it will be the same.
Beautifull and respectfull conversation! I have the upmost respect for JP, and this interview was one of the best and most respectfull I have seen.
Congratulations on such a polite, courteous and interesting debate. Even moments of shared laughter. I was very impressed how Ms Annie Lööf, Mr Erlend Loe and Mr Fredrik Skavlan listened intently, did not interrupt, did not use inflammatory expressions and spoke in a calm and reasoned manner ( especially as English is not their mother-tongue). Professor Petersen is very lucid and has a fascinating knowledge of psychology, and interesting views. I was expecting his views on the effect of biology to be supported by meta-analysis as he said there was 25 years research supporting his views. But his website only had a handful of individual journal articles supporting his views - and given the replication crisis in psychology I was not convinced by all his arguments.
I wish TV panels in New Zealand and Australia were conducted in such a courteous and reasoned manner.
The most admirable thing about Jordan is that he knows how to fully and completely answer these vague, broad questions
@Michael Halligan I would agree lol
Very true.. even the questioner hasn't thought about their question in the depth that Dr P answers it
@@nemishasharma5737 True 💯
I love it. I’ve only recently discovered him and he is such a pleasure to watch. I hope he gets well soon
The reality behind that is work. That guy is relatively smart and worked as hell during decades. This is a great example. What he thinks, what is says, is backed up
My dad died last year, and I kept hearing jordan in back of my mind saying, you want to be the guy who everyone leans on during that time.
That idea has deeply impacted me as well.
My dad died and I was that guy... do yourself a favor. Find a good therapist. Good luck brother.
Being this person for my family when my father passed. Allowed me to have a sense of value in my own life. I often look back and criticize the way I conduct myself in situations.. Looking back now, I would not change anything. "Be the lighthouse during the unforeseen storm's"
Sorry for your loss man keep strong
Thanks for sharing, that is beautiful
Refreshing to see the host allowing the guest to speak ! A brilliant interview!
Im Brazilian and after see yours lectures my life change positive
There's an IQ gap here. But everyone was civil
Hahaha...You can drive a truck through that gap.
very unlike the entire comment section
Don't be fooled by the "civility" of leftists. They have spent decades studying and learning about media manipulation. When leftists appear civil it isn't because they are, it is because they want to portray that face to the general public. This is why they chuckle and look at him as if he were an alien. They want the audience to not take him seriously. They can't openly mock him without themselves looking bad, so they try to it in a subtle way.
Probably not that big. The language gap is a much bigger factor here. I wonder what peterson would look like if he had to speak in a foreign language.
to say ''gap'' would be an understatement.
And ironically, the woman was the dumbest one in the room