Isiah Thomas on The Last Dance, Michael Jordan "lying," Steph Curry GOAT PG? | Draymond Green Show
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Isiah Thomas joins The Draymond Green Show to discuss his favorite advice from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, his relationship with the Detroit Pistons, his experience watching ‘The Last Dance,’ whether Michael Jordan left him off the Dream Team, if their relationship is salvageable, Steph Curry’s place in the all-time point guard debate, Kevin Durant’s impact on the Golden State Warriors, Kenyon Martin taking out Karl Malone on his behalf, and more.
Timeline:
00:00 Start
05:00 Kareem’s advice
08:00 Pistons relationship
22:00 The Last Dance
31:00 MJ & Dream Team
42:00 Steph Curry
51:00 Kevin Durant & Warriors
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Whenever I see zeke I’m all ears. Always a treat to listen to his wisdom and to get a chance to be blessed by his insight.
Same but he does have a lot of soar grapes on Jordan and Chicago Bulls, especially on Jordan.
However, I do think that Zeke should've made the Dream Team in 1992. My Top 5 deserving players who should've made that team are (in order):
#1 Jordan
#2 Magic
#3 Bird
#4 Isiah
#5 Pippen
I think the topic that doesn't get talked about enough was Chuck Daly not vouching for Isiah to make the team. Looking back in 1992, once Chuck Daly knew that Isiah wasn't on the team, Chuck Daly should've declined the coaching position for the Dream Team. But Chuck did not which meant that he "consented" for Isiah not to be on the team.
The argument for Dumars and Rodman to make the Dream Team is a bit of stretch, especially Rodman. From memory, the Pistons were looking for trade offers for Rodman because he was a cancer to the team at that time. I think the Pistons eventually traded Rodman to the Spurs for Sean Elliott.
You must be Isaiah mom, cuz isaiah is a phony liar. Or
This is Isaiahs burner account
Isaiah Bird and Magic are unbelievable humans so gracious humble willing to pass the torch Zeke is legend of legends real black man proud of him
Facts
Zeke is still holding a grudge towards MJ, after 35 years.
@@penkima4923couldn’t take the L. Said the bulls took their players but that wasn’t til ring #4
Love the commitment to realism Isiah and Draymond! Isiah was big in the 80s and 90s, you playin today. Only makes sense for Isiah's half of the screen to be in 240p and yours in 1080p.
Trolll
🤡
Lord Isisah Thomas!!!
We see him we press play all the time, always a treat.
I love listening to someone willing and able to pass on incredible wisdom to those around him. Thanks Dray for an amazing guest and for your continual quest for knowledge.
Im always open to any facts or knowledge that Zeke has to offer whenever he speaks, I definitely listen
This man is 63?! I need that water
Isiah Thomas does look good for his age. Draymond on the other hand looks 45+😅
@@yahiaali4059Dray doesn’t look a day over 40 stop
@@kingshottah4429 Draymond is 90s baby let’s be real he’s lookin a lil rough
@@kingshottah4429 Draymond lookin like he played in the 90s 😂
Aging very gracefully!
Detroit Pistons legend Isiah Thomas
Super dope to have your mom chop it up with the legend! Salute to y’all! 👑👑👑
People dont realize that lol if steph iso as much as luka and shai do he could score just as much as them
I love hear Zeke interviews. THE GOAT. U CANT TOUCH THIS🔨🕐
Didn’t know Isaih was that real 💪🏾
Draymond is definitely the PG on the Warriors and Steph would be the SG in old school terms forsure
🫡 Zeke is the only player to defeat Bird, Mike and Magic in the same yr to take the championship!
and Mj was the only one to swept Thomas and get a 3peat
@@cochise4390dat was his 1st Finals win
@@cochise4390oh girl relax 😂
@@user-it4yn9vz6c yep...and swept Thomas then beat Magic
@@KAye633 same thing I said to your momma
Great interview, Draymond. Everyone will talk about this interview. ESPN every sports podcast.
My hometown hero 🦸♂, Isiah Thomas aka Zeke who I grew up watching 👀 him do his magic 🪄 on the basketball 🏀 floor. I used to live 🏠 on Damen & Ohio St. 7 blocks away from the Chicago Stadium 🏟 aka The United Center. One ☝ day I would luv ❤ to meet Isiah if he ever comes down to Orlando Fl. ☀ Isiah tells it like it is. All facts, no BS. Draymond thank U 🙏 for this awesome interview with my basketball 🏀 Icon. Chi-town Pride!!! God Bless!!! 🙏
Thank You Zeke for representing Detroit the right way.
Deeeetroit basketball!!!
He repped the D and Chi the right way.
I love Isiah.. He was my favorite player growing up.. And often overlooked..
Anyone not named Jordan, Magic and Bird in the 80s gets overlooked by casuals. Real ones know the deal
80s was trash including Zeke GABAGE!
He's still my favorite!!
@@KDubb-ws9zc Isiah is always talked about in basketball with all the names you mentioned. Wth you saying he gets overlooked. lol He's just a real ass and a snake and everyone didn't like him, and always complains about it in all his interviews. 😂
Most people believe he's the 2nd best pure point guard ever. The hoop game doesn't forget greatness
Being from Saginaw myself, with my family being from Chicago. That hit home! Great interview gentlemen!!
I've seen just about all the extended Isiah Thomas interviews. Club Shay Shay, All The Smoke, Knuckleheads and other less known podcasts or interviews and I always learn something new from them. This man has alot of knowledge and is willing to share it. He just wants the best for the game that got him outta the WEST SIDE.
Its Isiah Thomas? Im tuning in. Love hearing his insight and stories.
If he has any money left in the bank, he should get a new webcam.
As much as I love MJ, you could tell the NBA media and the league back in the day loved spinning the narrative in his favour.
Exactly
never forget that a ref was caught saying to MJ complaining about a foul, that the ref did not see the foul, but because it was MJ, the ref will believe it happened
facts
Well of course, you know how much money he was making everyone lol
@@kidck😂😂😂😂HE WASN'T making anybody any money but himself!! Wth makes you think he made money when the money was always going up?
Hell yes, Isiah baby! This is my number 1 NBA dream interview for you. I cannot wait!♡
This is why Zeke is the ultimate OG!
Here in Chicago he isnt
@@MelvinMartin-fv7hu Are you sure? He beat Jordan 3 straight seasons before Pippen & Jackson saved him lol
Positive…we don’t fuck wit zeke in the chi…but his talent was undeniable…bro a super hater…mike stole your city from you lol
@@MelvinMartin-fv7hu why? Because he Chicago like a drum
Nope
Another aabsolutely incredible interview
This was a great episode.
Dang, just finished watching the Whole podcast. Thank you DG13 and sir IT!
Steph is a combo guard. He is amazing On and Off the ball. For most of the regular season I'd say he is a shooting guard but when playoff time comes and everything slows down Steph is lethal in the pick and roll and controlling the tempo.. and basically trades the PG role back and forth between him and Draymond. Hes just an all round great basketball player.
This was one of the top Dray show IMO.. So much of what we didn know was shed light now. I look at zeke from such a different perspective now
Great Content! 🔥
Man, Zeek is amazing - love his honesty and intelligence!
Great talk! I always learn something when the great Zeke talks. Detroit Pistons Bad Boys fan from Boston .
That goes deeper than the hand shake,when Zeke and the Pistons would play at the Chicago Stadium Chicago Fans would cheer for Zeke with a standing ovation, MJ gets drafted, the Bulls start to get competitive, the Pistons starts their physical play, Fans turn on Zeke, pistons come to Chicago the Fans boo Zeke, Zeke started only claiming the Westside of Chicago being his home, no longer the City of Chicago as his home, Zeke is still the Best basketball that grew up in Chicago, I wonder why Dray didn't ask Zeke did he ever ask his coach Chuck Daley why he didn't make the team, Chuck Daley Coached the DREAM Team (Zeke is good for the youth in the NBA )
Dray keep rocking the way you do! Much love from Croatia, stay true to yourself and this pod is fire (: GL in the playoffs this year!
This was great
Draymond can you please get one three point shot vs the NYK. YOU ARE THE MAN AND THANK YOU!
favorite podcast so far from this channel or any basketball channel so far
It is what it is
The Pistons need to bring in Zeek immediately. 8mile in the building. "Each one teaches one"
Great interview! I’ve learned a lot of information I could talk to my uncles about because that’s his era of basketball.
I can see Draymond finishing his career in Detroit and becoming a coach it would only make sense he's really the definition of Detroit basketball in the NBA 💯
Draymond is gonna retire a Warrior but I see him coaching for the Pistons. In Detroit, he can work on his WWE moves.😂😂😂
Wish he'd sign now!! lbvs
Who would want a guy that gets a technical every 2 games and is known for hurting players to be a coach
Zeke still hating, he need a hug 😅😂😂
zeeeekkkel!! I'm from 6 mile...love you both!
Dray is a great podcaster and has a hell of a basketball mind
Brilliant interview……Zeke is an absolute legend on and off the court
7:58 that went in one ear and out the other👂😂
This a great interview I wish they were in person and I.T look younger than Draymond 😂
My two favorite basketball players. Thank you gentlemen!
Dray truly is a gentleman. And if you disagree, he'll punch you in the face.
As a basketball fan and Draymond Green Show follower, all I can say is. Let's all tip in to purchase Isiah an HD camera and higher speed internet.🤣
Right On!!!👍🏿
Let it be known, Zeke! LEGEND
17:23 That is what I'm all for ~prayer/meditation works~ powerfully said I.T
King of The Mitten! 👑
Wish his cam was a lil better lol it’s all good tho OG!
They say "Karma is a bitch and then you die". What goes around does come around. Look at Michael and Scottie and all that melee. Lord have his Mercy. This is knowledge for real.
Funny part is Jordan ain't even dead yet....and oh boy, is technology, and these great men communicating now biting his rich self right in the as*. I guarantee Jordan sits at home hearing all this sruff coming out and just being like "what...the....fu**"😂
@@Col.Roy_Mustangyou wish , just like Zelenskyy waiting on that apology
@@gnnacharles1You don't get it and neither does that Boy your taking up for. Pettiness will get you nowhere
If he cared he would have came back to every platform to come defend it but his about making paper, that's why he doesn't. @@Col.Roy_Mustang
@@mongoslade277 youngin, do you think Jordan is the only one Zeke rub that way? His reputation followed him, ask his former teammate,Adrian Dantely. Jordan is no fake , he still mean and tough, not begging to be like , nor for apologies.Ever thought, why Zeke, don’t talk about pistons badboys and The dream team coach, Chuck Daly(R.I.P)about his role in why his championships point guard wasn’t on the team?
Love yall always and forever 🎉❤🐐🏀🏆
REALLY ZEKE LET THAT SHIT GO MJ NOT GOING 2 SAY HE WAS WRG OR SORRY SO MOVE FORWARD. ..
Always be with the people not above the people
Amongst the people, never above. Barrrrrs
Need a good 3 hours of Ball and life talk with some of the hooper/podcasters
What's Up Dray? You're my Favorite defensive player on Defence ever.. I love you Steph and Klay I would to get a he chance to meet y'all one day before it's too late! Warriors!!!? Let's get our 5 th good luck my grandmother is also a huge fan. She lights up the house with her shouting and has the most father's I got on to y'all bc of her
I see these guys every year when they play the new york knicks i sit close to them but they not signing my jerseys
@@vernelchambers5549you have to be a child to have a real chance at a game my guy lol
Dray deserve every penny he made! The man hit 4 rings smh still sick from 22 ☘️☘️☘️
Normal=humble Great advice from Kareem. ❤
That’s what I call an interview!
You trying to break the record for most comments on a single pod cast ?
I love you Zeke!
Chicago’s finest 💯
Cap
Detroit finest. Chicago doesn’t appreciate him
Wow Zeke Dray overcooking with this one 🔥
Draymond, I started watching GS during your suspension. I was happy TJD had greater opportunity while you were out and I wrongly assumed that you had a negative impact on the moral of the team. I am so happy to admit I was wrong. Thank you for all you to help the team and the young players. Now, stay out of trouble! Being a Hoosier, TJD is why I started watching, but I'm a big fan of yours and the whole team now. I'm loving getting to know about all of you and the game in general.
Zeke why yall assume Jerry Krause was a good guy. I just don't think they owe jerry it was business and if he was good people cool but if he was just the figurehead who cares. I don't believe by default they or any player should always have to pay homage or respect to folks. It depends on the relationship too not just the money
Mr. Thomas is the best, 💯💯, great interview
Question for Draymond. In an early episode, you mentioned how watching film takes you 48 minutes since it's all cut/edited for you. my question is if you only have 1 angle, or if you get like 15 different angles for each play. Also wonder if you get film for non-Warriors games.
Ask this in the live chat
I LOVE ISIAH
My favorite pg ever I love you IT your heart and passion for the right way is motivating me daily.💯💯🙏🏿
Yo… this bout to be HYPEEE
Man I think I've heard Zeke from every podcast he been lol But man I always listen to Zeke, his knowledge in hoops is gold. But man OG, we need to take care of that internet 😅
The question that follows is. Isaiah, did you guys go to the locker room to congratulate them. It seems like none of that happened.
Exactly he didn’t
That would have been an excellent question.
Why do you care? You probably weren’t even born 😂😂😂
@@KAye633 I was born, my friend. I am 52.
Day u gotta include Lord and the 3rd when introducing Zeke
Before my time. But mane ..Isaiah Thomas is my favorite nba legend
Isiah is truly a real one. Much respect for Zeke!
Zeak!!!....My Cuzzin from Detroit!😁😁😁Remember Zeak showing up on Mack and Bewick the roughest part of the city of Detroit to talk to the kids...Everybody was tripping 1987😆😆😆
I need that shirt
Isiah Thomas is the best.
Heater
My favorite player of All-Time! … should have had 3 Rings if it wasn’t for that ‘Phantom Foul’ on Bill Laimbeer against Kareem! Maybe 4 without the ‘Zeke Mistake’ against Boston! Things happen … You can’t create a narrative for greatness … the story of greatness is what we witness in real time which makes His Story!
They could've also suspended Laimbeer and others, and the Pistons would have less than 2 titles.
UofM alum here but I cannot help but love Draymond. The guy plays the game with passion and is a proven winner at every level. But his was maybe my favorite interview, even if Isiah’s video feed stinks lol. I thought he asked some really great questions
Damn! Zeke helped put Rich Paul on TOO????
Zeke is a TRUE Treasure!💯
As a Dubs fan and recognizing my bias, still feel like saying KD “saved the Warriors legacy” is a bit much. I think that summer, ANY upgrade on HB40 and we’d’ve bounced back and got a few more chips. We just happened to go and get the second or third best player in the league at the time… but I’ve always believed that someone who was like a borderline All-Star or who was a more consistent 3-And-D guy (HB40 shot us out of a few of those Finals games) could’ve come in and the results would’ve been similar.
I’m the biggest MJ fan you guys are ever gonna encounter… really wish he apologizes to isiah one day, gonna make one hell of a sit down 🐐
He won't.
@@YusufEbr Because Zeke won't shake MJ's hand first.
Mike still renting space almost 40 years later.
It's crazy. MJ haters love it anytime someone takes a dig at him. Normally they're LeBron groupies. 😊 I really doubt MJ cares. As a player, he would've destroyed each & every hater. Now that he's retired, why waste his time on trolls? He doesn't.
@@matts_biz Exactly and it drives them crazy that he doesn't respond. Pippen sorry to say does the same thing
Top 10 PGs
Magic Johnson.
Steph Curry.
Isiah Thomas.
Oscar Robertson.
Jason Kidd.
Chris Paul.
Jerry West.
John Stockton.
Steve Nash.
Kyrie Irving (My Opinion)
Shoutout to Zeek. He should have definitely been on that 92 dream team. And I'm disappointed in Chuck Daily for not insisting Zeek be on squad. He was the coach and Zeek won him 2 chips. As for Jordan, we all know he's a bonafide A hole. His own teammates despise him
Wow!! That KD saved yall legacies line was cold lol, but at the same time when you really think about it there is some truth behind it.
The Warriors saved KD’s legacy as well.
My hero from crib, homie let it go plz. U my dawg. Jordan put chi on the map.
S/O to my 1990 homies and homets 😤
Who beat everyone on the Dream Team… #11 🏀⛹🏾♂️
Not by himself, the other players deserve credit.
literally these are two of my favourite players in NBA history… EVER!¡!
🎯🏀☔
I respect thst back then they did not shake hands
lies. The previous two years that they beat the Bulls, MJ and his team shook their hands as sportsmen. The reason why the Celtics didn't shake their hands is because Detroit literally tried to end Birds career.
Isiah Thomas!
Love the way Draymond directs the interview
Zeke could handle the rock. He was doing things in the 80s that people hadn’t seen before! Original Badboy Piston! 👍🏽🙏🏽
I love zeke
Zeke I think its afe to say "he's good with it!" 😂
why do you have this guy on your podcast basically telling you that you wouldn't be a hall of famer without KD. Back hand compliment.........
IT was super passive-agressive with a smile on his face 😂
I mean, it wasn't a lie......
LMAO without KD? dray would be in the G-league without steph. forget KD. are you kidding me.