Zeke should apologize for leaving the court before the game ended so as not to be around to shake Jordan's hand when Jordan finally ended his career. Zeke should also apologize for playing like a dirty bastard against Jordan and the entire league.
It'll never happen. Jordan's not the only one whose ever called him that name , and if you know anything about Thomas, you also know tha he , right along with Bill Lambeer, was one of the most despised players in the league nearly his entire career and after it too.
Zeke is just a typical jealous loser. jealous he's mostly forgotten, jealous he's never (because he doesn't deserve to be) in GOT talks. jealous that Jordan took over his home city and gets morelove there than he does. all the kids in his family look up to MJ and it burns him alive. basically he's a 60 year old sore loser. when him and his thuggish team were bullying the scrub Bulls in the 80's it was all fun. when one or two of MJ's teammates developed into half decent NBA starters, well that was that and the rest is history.
It's VERY feminine to hold grudges like this. A man should be able to drop emotions and do the right thing. This is the trouble with black folks all too often and this is why black on black violence is so prevalent. The teaching of how to be a real man is nonexistent. And the honor + criminal culture is GARBAGE. It's all very feminine and sad. And btw, I HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST JORDAN/BULLS FAN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!! He is acting like a woman
There's a backstory to the MJ and Isiah "situation". Bobby Knight was the coach for the University of Indiana where Isiah Thomas played for him his entire college career. Bobby Knight also coached the "1984 Olympic Basketball Team" in which MJ played on (he had not played in the NBA yet. He was drafted that year). Bobby Knight commented that he had never seen a basketball player with MJ's skill and that MJ had the potential to be one of the greats (this is before he played a single NBA game). MJ's Olympic team played the "NBA All Stars" to prep for the Olympics that year (Magic, Bird, Isiah, McHale, Walton, Ainge, Parrish, Worthy, and Drexler was on that team). The NBA All Stars did not win a game against MJ's Olympic Team (MJ's team went 8-0). Those games were not that close either. The NBA All Stars were shocked at MJ's skill and that he was bringing those skills to the NBA (there is a lot of info online about this). Also, Isiah is from Chicago. MJ not only got more praise from Isiah's college coach than he did, went undefeated during the Olympic trials in which he dominated, MJ also took over the city he was from. So there is some jealousy there as well.
I could not agree more, well said. Those are all excellent points to bring up, all of which are very true and definitely play a huge role in this intense rivalry. When MJ came along he was other worldly and outshined all of the other NBA talent. Zeke wanted his hard earned and deserved share of the limelight along with the praise and love of his coaches and city. It's almost like an older brother being treated unfairly by the rest of the family. Isaiah was a great player, but MJ was the evolution of the game, which would become the next wave. I think Isaiah was jealous of MJ from the beginning, from that 1st team USA Olympic day. Lest we forget the all-star game freezeout, but then there's the popularity difference, money-making differences, and implementation of the Jordan Rules... He uses the same old excuse all the time that Boston left the court without shaking hands with the Pistons after Detroit knocked them out of the playoffs in 1988. I'm not saying Bostons was right, no, but they left because the final game was in Detroit and they knew the fans would rush the court. It was more out of safety, but I'm sure part of it was being angry the Celtics lost. They did congratulate the Pistons after Detroit won though. Isaiah can't see how wrong it was to be so arrogant, disrespectful, and unbefitting of the downed champions. Why did he choose not be humble and respectful, congratulate the Bulls, and wish them luck? His whole story and career could be looked at differently, but HE made that choice and lives with the torment caused by his actions. He serves better as a terrible warning than a good example. Interesting fact: if you actually watch game 4 of the 1991 Eastern Conference Finals, when the Bulls were about to complete the sweep of Detroit, with about 8-9 minutes left in the game you can see Zeke talking to his teammates and telling them of the plan he and Bill Laimbeer concocted to walk off in 1 final show of defiance. With just less than a minute left in the game, on the sidelines, you can clearly see Detroit head coach Chuck Daley saying and motioning, "No, don't do it/stop."
@@blobcity3591 You should forgive but you may also not forget. MJ may see any relationship with Isiah as toxic. In turn, Isiah may benefit from counseling. It must be difficult to feel this about MJ.
None of them fools getting no apology. I think Scottie in a way worse doghouse. That man said at his hof speech, when you say Jordan you say pippen. Scottie should never said none of that shit.
Scottie unfortunately has turned into a big baby just like Isiah. Bitter old men that wish they had the respect and recognition like MJ. I loved Pippen…. he’s disappointed so many of his fans and tarnished his name and legacy in the process. Maybe to help push his book sales but I ain’t buying that shit.
Didn’t Jordan score 60 something points against Isaiah ? If Isaiah is still thinking about the statement Michael made then he lost again in another way. 😮
You are correct. Larry Bird still holds a grudge against Bill Lambeer for one reason: Not because he was physical, elbowed people, or talked trash. Bird said Lambeer would try to permanently hurt you. According LB, Lambeer would intentionally land on Robert Parish's ankles, causing them to twist. When he tried doing that to Bird, Larry did it back and Lambeer stopped.
It is most possible that Laimbeer actually put his foot where the opponent would land. This may seem strange, but the weight that gets to the foot doesn't make much harm; but the player who lands is in danger of twisting his ankle.
@@giovanni_7191 you are correct. It's a strategic move without consideration of permanent damage to the opponent which is over the top, assuming that is what Lambeer was intending to do.
Your breakdowns are LEGENDARY! They should throw Skip, Stephen A., Colin Cowherd and especially Nick Wrong and Watermelon Head Kendrick off TV as so called "Basketball Analyst" and hire YOU to do the shows.
Lol you can't be serious right?! All this guy does is what all those guys do (except nick) he pushes mj and rather than just sticking to facts he embellishes and gives only the context to his arguments that make Jordan seem like the goat. Always an excuse for why what magic did isn't as good ( not just magic pick any other all time great) it's the same finds a way to make it seem less than. But when mj has a shortcoming there is always a reason why always an out to lessen the burden on Jordan. This guy's is a clown and he and all the others like him (arnette rusty 2raw ticket dreamerspro) make their audience dumber because fools believe this spin on history to be true. My guy there is no goat. This is a team game here. Mj is a great one no doubt. We should all just appreciate the greatness of all these legends past and present. Let's not act like Jordan or anyone is this perfect player. There are plenty on his level or better. There is definitely a few players who bring far more to the table than Michael Jordan did.
Thomas is just trying to save face here. I bet he was a bit surprised by what Jordan said in the last dance, probably been telling everyone that him and Jordan were friends up to that point. You can tell it's really important to Isiah that he is viewed as this really nice man who's a victim of unfair treatment.
Bro and his teammates actively tried to get the man injured for years and has constantly tried to down his legacy. Yeah, to me that kinda feels like "A-hole" is pretty mild for what he did. 🤷🏾♂️
What saved Isiah with Magic is that Magic valued winning back to back over his friendship with Isiah, which is hilarious because Isiah was trying dethrone Magic. Isiah is upset because he started the beef with Jordan when the 84 USA team beat the breaks off of the NBA All Star players (including Isiah) and his former head coach Bobby Knight said then that Jordan was the best player he ever saw. Then Jordan goes to Chicago, Isiah’s hometown, and becomes the city’s darling, then he becomes a phenomenon with his shoes, commercials and media presence. Isiah retaliated with the infamous 85 all star game freeze out fueled by Jordan wearing chains and his Air Jordan warm ups instead of Chicago Bulls warm up gear during the slam dunk contest against Dominique, rookie mistake. Isiah and the Pistons beat Jordan and the Bulls in the playoffs 3 straight years. The Bulls finally sweep the Pistons in ‘91 when Isiah and most of the team walk off the floor without congratulating the new Eastern Conference Champs. Colangelo and Stern see this as bad sportsmanship and strengthen their case for not selecting Isiah and instead select Stockton as the 2nd guard behind Magic for the Dream Team. His head coach, Chuck Daly, ended up coaching the Dream Team as well. Isiah loses to Jordan ultimately because he is seemly the type of person who tries to take matters into his own hands even if he is the original source of the turmoil and provocation. Both can be cruel and ruthless but where Isiah is mafioso, Jordan is Machiavellian.
Michael Jordan Isaiah Thomas we are please be grown up and apologize to each other Stop acting like kids in and apologize you are a grown man's Prayer about it and let our Lord Jesus Christ take care of it both of ybuffalo or good players both of you
Isaih, is pissed about two things. He's triggered by Jordan taking over his hometown of Chicago & being left off the Dream Team. He mentioned once how mad he was when one of his nephews came to a family function or visit wearing all Jordan gear. He said he made the kid change clothes. Now you tell if that ain't petty. I can see Mike & Charles talking again. Because I believe he really liked Charles. He knew Charles wasn't afraid of him. I can say the same with Oaktown. They've always been cool
But the Bulls signed Rodman, Salley and John Edwards from Isiah's Pistons, how ironic. The Bulls admired the Pistons despite not beating them majority of the time.
Bro I could listen to U and Charles frm Dreamerspro Show ANY DAY. U both r factual, unbiased, using info in the RIGHT and PROPER context and U both are honest... For these, U both hv my respect and subscription. Another masterclass video❗️👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Oh, Jordan “meant it” all right. John Salley said the beef started on Isiah’s side when his nephew in Chicago was wearing a Jordan jersey. Being from Chicago, he was pissed and wanted to take it out on Jordan moving forward. He also said it was Magic that kept Thomas off the Dream Team.
Jordan said it publicly, the apology should be public. But he won't because he is a piece of garbage human being, who has gotten enabled well into old age by fanboys who think being good at basketball is pass at being a piece of garbage.
When that ENTIRE Detroit Pistons team from 87-the early 90s publically apologizes for being the dirtiest, most classless, bunch of SOBS in the history of professional sports, then maybe they can request an apology. As a diehard Boston Celtics fan, I'm certainly no fan of Michael Jordan, or the LA Lakers. But I loved it when Jordan's Bulls SWEPT the Pistons, and for the only time in my life, I rooted for the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA Finals to beat these disgusting punks. The players were despicable, their fans in the Silverdome were probably even worse than Oakland Raiders fans, and that totally obnoxious PA announcer they had back then, made people want to stick an ice pick straight through their eardrums. Let's not forget about Dennis Rodman and Isaiah Thomas, being piss poor losers to the Celtics, and both saying the Legend, Larry Bird, was overrated because he was white. Out of all the classless things that Pistons team did, that was surely the worst. Just imagine if someone said that Thomas was overrated because he was black!
Mj don't owe Charles an apology....Charles owes him one for publicly criticizing him got dogg why can't y'all see that...if you say someone is your friend...as a true friend you do not criticize your friend publicly that's just the bottom line..Charles was the one who initiated that beef not MJ ...and don't come with that crap saying Charles was just doing his job...His job should not take precedence over friendship..There's a way Charles could of constructively criticize MJ ownership than the way he did ... remember it's not what you say it's how you say it that makes the difference...
@@vincentallen1318yeah that would be something but here's where you know Michael is not even thinking or worrying about Isiah or Scottie. For him to do that would mean giving them the time of day. Nah MJ is beyond both of them.
The audacity of Zeke to demand an apology he doesn't even deserve. HE should apologize for what him and his teammates did to MJ. Bro was killing MJ everytime they played, that's why Zeke is one of the most unlikable legends in NBA history
Bro the didn't let him dunk. The fouled him in the paint. Bird took a way bigger ass whipping than mj did. Yall need to stop. Was they rough w him yes but at no point was his career ever threatened when he and the bulls laced up to play the pistons. That's just factually incorrect
@@showtime6667 exactly, people aren't watching the actual games and weren't there to see what was going on but commenting on it with their young ass opinions lmao
@@showtime6667 Bird started playing when there was no flagrant foul yet and NBA was more dangerous in his era., But still from 85 to 91? 6 years of hard foul experience is no slouch and nobody is comparing MJ and bird's era other than you
Thank you and also after the bulls finally beat them in the playoffs Zeke orchestrated a walk off the floor without shaking hands now I ask you who’s the asshole? Zeke has done some other stuff too that labeled him an ass. MJ knows he’s anal about stuff that’s just who he is. Isaiah looks and appears weak to continually harp about this some 40 yrs later, really Zeke?
Zeke's motivation is knocking M.J. down to raise up Lebron. It's Mike took your favorite coaches, got more praise and took those Piston losses with class. Did Mike walk off the court early after 3 years in a row after season ending losses?
@@darrellbarnes1171 John Sally, Zeke's teammate, said Zeke was mad when he went home and saw his nephew with a Jordan jersey. Now add in the fact that Bird, magic and Mike hanging out, doing events together and patting each other on the back. Yes dude is super jealous, salty and bitter.
@@darrellbarnes1171As a native New Yorker I can say that MJ was born here in New York. In Brooklyn so no matter where he lives he's a native like me.
Exactly. It's super hypocritical. Jordan shook their hand each time they won.. after elbowing him the entire series and trying to literally hurt him. Then MJ and the Bulls deny their 3 peat, and Isaiah doesn't have the balls to shake his hand.
Exactly this is why jordan don’t like him now zeke does shit act like he didn’t do nun but when someone does something to him they wrong this a 60 year old man with the accountability of a 20 some year old modern woman 😂
@@nicoli-thenextup9866 You seen the clip of Oakley calling Isiah sneaky? One thing I admire about Jordan is that he doesn’t pretend. He is who he is and if you don’t like it fine. I’m sure Isiah has called Jordan much worse names behind the scenes. Look how he did his best friend Magic. Isiah is like the big brother who is envious of the little brother for surpassing him.
I said the same thing. Isiah speaks as if he was some beloved figure...He was a great player who was despised and burnt a lot of bridges during his career. I remember when Karl Malone elbowed him & was struck by how not only how no one criticized or condemned Malone's actions but how also no one spoke up for Thomas. The vibe was as if he almost deserved it for all of the dirty things he did as a player.
Facts!!! Amen brah!!! All those dirty fouls and such burnt alot of bridges. MJ would never apologize to zeke cause all they did was try to hurt cause they couldn’t guard Black Jesus
@@g.benson8477 Oh for sure it is as Isiah is hardly, if ever brought up as a "hometown great" and that's not to diminish his contributions, but it's just fact. Plenty of names get mentioned before one gets to Thomas, some of those are "adopted sons" -- from other towns, at that. Then there's the whole Dream Team thing...
Respect is everything. If Mike can say it to the world, he can apologize in front of the world. I don't think it'll happen. But he's not wrong for saying what he said.
I just find it funny how Isiah Thomas acts like the victim whenever he stirs up trouble. He did it with Magic after Magic's HIV confirmation asking if Magic was gay but then denies any wrongdoing. He did with Larry Bird when he agreed with Dennis Rodman that Bird would just be a normal player if he was black but then tried to deny it and then with Jordan he will go on Open Court and other talk shows and throw subtle jabs at Jordan and downplay what he achieved and now he acts like he is some victim. Its laughable really. With Larry Bird, when he became President of Basketball of operations for the Indiana Pacers in 2004, he promptly fired Isiah Thomas as coach because Rick Carlisle was more likable than Isiah Thonas, thats a direct quote from Isiah Thomas. But we all know that Larry Bird hated the Bad Boy Pistons and their cheap tactics especially with Bill Laimbeer, but he knew Isiah was the chief troublemaker
@user-pb2jp2ib3r Chuck Daly was the coach of the Dream Team, he didn't fight for Isiah to be on the team. Larry Bird did not care. Magic Johnson also did not have a good relationship with Isiah Thomas at that time. There were other members on the Dream Team that did not like Isiah.
@@allthingsconsidered...4894 a whole bunch of them! The guy who made this video was dick riding Jordan hard. Thomas isn’t innocent but many times interviewers bring up the Jordan stuff not Isiah.
Air Jordan used to play with the Pistons like a cat playing with a mouse before he ate it. The fact that Isiah 'Salty' Zeke Thomas wants a apology says it all he's butt hurt. 😂
I commented on that video of Isiah Thomas and said when I watched The Last Dance it felt like MJ was talking about the past and how he felt during that time
ALL FACTS , couldn't have been said better, especially the constant attempts at belittling Jordan's accomplishments, let him (Thomas) remain salty & keep being unprofessional & disliked all by himself.✌️
This is why multiple players didn't want Isiah on the dream team. Isiah going around saying he only accepted Magic and Malone's apology because they did it publicly was a bad look. Isiah also called Jordan an a-hole publicly. Jordan owes him no apology at all.
Truth. People talk like he wasn't on the Dream Team because Jordan didn't want him on the Dream Team. But the truth is it wasn't just Jordan. A lot of the guys on the team did not want him on it.
Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen and some others didn't want him on it, but Magic Johnson and Charles Barkley both said they felt bad for him, and that he should've been on it. Jordan should've just said (about the walkoff) "If that's how he wants it, I don't care. We finally beat them and are going to the finals and that's what matters."
@@michaelnoel9998 Wrong. Several others felt bad for him and said he should've been on it. Stop the hate on Isiah. Laimbeer and Mahorn (1989 only) were the worst of the bad boys.
@@ILoveOldTWC You're full of it! Jordan, Pip, Magic, Bird, Malone, Drexler didn't want him there. That in the aftermath some understood he deserved to be their is another story. Even his own coach didn't give a shit nor the GM.
@@ILoveOldTWCblah blah blah, they all felt bad bud no one spoke up because as bad as they supposedly felt they were glad he wasn't there because they all had feelings towards his style of play.
@Ron Isiah should transition into a woman since he exudes all the characteristics. Perhaps then, MJ would pity her, understand her innate insecurities, and send her a flower but never an apology. That would be sexist.
MJ didn't cheat the game, but Zeke did. You don't duck the sportsmanship part of the game, win or lose. He was shown proper respect for winning, but punk'd out in defeat.
Got it all backwards MJ was in his city talking bad about him after Isiah done been Nice to him and his family in chicago MJ not coming with them street ethics I guess lol Isiah Got the Best of MJ an MJ knows it!!!
@@luisvergara6502 Zeke is 3-1 against MJ, and beat him time and again in the regular seasons. He absolutely got the best of MJ. Thats an objective fact my man. And its the REAL reason Mike hates him
@@billybob5337 Ma man, Jordan has a 19-24 head to head in the reg season with Zeek, so to say Zeek beat him time and time again in the reg season is bs. Zeek won 5 more games. In those 43 games Mj's 31.6 ppg to Zeek's 21.0 ppg, again to say Zeek beat him is also bs. All Jordan needed was some help, and once he got it Zeek was swept and had to change zipcodes. It's fair to say the Pistons got the best of the young Bulls, but to say Zeek got the best of MJ is plain dumb. There's a reason Zeek got 2 while Jordan got 6. And it's the same reason to this day Zeek is still yapping at Jordan every chance he gets . Jordan took over his NBA coach (Daly), his college coach (Bobby Night), and his city (Chicago), not to mention the basketball world to this day. So who got the best of who?
Jordan’s numbers increased in the playoffs. He dominated in the 4th quarter of games. LeBron, as great as he is, famously had unproductive 4th quarters against Dallas in 2011. The following years he did play like a beast in the finals win or lose, but Jordan always seemed to come up huge when it mattered most. Making his free throws, a timely steal, clutch baskets. Even a masterful assist to Steve Kerr in 97’. He predicted exactly how the Jazz were gonna play him and told Steve to be ready for the open look.
1 that pass to kerr is the exact same lebron has done but yall scrutinize him for it and 2 the video had absolutely nothing to do with lebron bringing shit up for no reason dont gotta tear bron down for no reason at all
@@jit1709 Bron is being scrutinized cause many knows there is a high probability he could miss that shot and so does not wan't to take the responsebility and pass the ball. With Jordan on the other hand even knowing that he can make the shot, cause he is doing it all the time, still he trusts his teammate to do it.
@@hensali78 no bron could make shots like that in the clutch in his prime just as well but he passes it out bc hes a smarter player and he made the right basketball discision
@@vineezyproductions9638 false game seven 2013 finals made a mid range jumper over kawhi to secure the chip facing a far superior team than mj ever played now i believe mj is and goat but still support bron and don’t try to tear him down just to win an argument
Thomas WANTED to be the villains of NBA they wanted to be the Raiders of Basketball and when your the villains be ready for the consequences and how the public views you, at least Lambeer owns being a villain to this day but Thomas doesn’t he’s changed because of how his peers and public viewed him like MJ said.
🤣😂🤣😂 oh hell yeah. My thoughts exactly. Lambier owns that shit! He owns how he played against MJ and is not apologetic. I respect that of him and I'm a Bulls/Jordan fan. Whereas Isiah...well his, "It wasn't me" but it was Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne who beat up MJ. I'm like really Isaiah? I guess all that motto of bad boys for life is not real for Isiah huh? Or at least it isn't when you want MJ to understand "It was those guys not me."
When Charles Barkley said he felt bad for Isiah and that he probably should've been on the Dream Team, that's when Michael Jordan decided to part ways with Charles. By the way, it's not right to hate anyone. By the way, it was NOT 1990. It was 1991. 1990, Pistons beat Bulls in playoffs for 3 straight years in 7 games.
Le Bron doesn't make those around him better, in fact every star that has ended up on a team with him actually sees a dip in their production. On top of this Le Bron shows consistently that he needs stars supporting him to win, where as Mike could carry a team out of shear will and could be counted on in the clutch to get you the W. Isiah doesn't even believe Le Bron is better than Jordan, he is just but hurt that Mike doesn't love him.
Expecting MJ to apologize is like expecting Isiah to own up to the way his Pistons played. While bygones should be bygones, MJ’s feelings are completely justified. The video does an excellent job summarizing the issue, however it should also be pointed out that Isiah never owned up to his Pistons either
See how he throws his own teammates under the bus by exclaiming it was Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne but not me. Why in the hell is Isiah calling out names? Talking about his former teammates and blaming them? For real? If he can't live with the blame why bring up others?
You see I think the problem wen it comes to MJ n Charles is no so much wht he said I think it's abt how and where he said it bcse he cud said the same thing in a more conservative way on television but say it raw to MJ's face but in all Fairness to Charles he speaks Raw abt everyone else so he gonna Jam MJ the same exact way and hey thts just Charles.
@paxonhellofoyd7275 if you listened to the video, he called him an asshole in the past tense. He didn't say he's an asshole now. And quite frankly Isiah deserves to be called an asshole for his unsportsmanlike decisions.
@paxonhellofoyd7275 you say wht you wnt until you've being put in the same spot and hey it may not be as bball player but your boss cud be sayn something to you and you cud simply say out of anger WTF do I look like an Asshole in front of other wrkrs and hey tell me if tht isn't neat the same thing.
After all these years it's really something about how we talk about all the hatred for the Pistons - the Bulls, Celtics, Knicks, and even the Lakers .. man everyone hated them
Michael shouldn’t apologize Thomas comes out every so often going on shows and interviews continually bashing Jordan What has Jordan ever said about Thomas? Good for Jordan
Thing is with MJ, and anyone who’s seen any MJ documentary/interview knows that when he’s talking, he’s “in the moment” and talking from the perspective of being on the court at that exact time
There is one thing I'm going to correct you on here. This rivalry did not happened in the nineties. It happened in the mid-to-late eighties. This is when the Detroit Piston bad boys were at their Peak and Michael Jordan in the Bulls were coming up and nipping at their heels to take over the east.
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Zeke should apologize for leaving the court before the game ended so as not to be around to shake Jordan's hand when Jordan finally ended his career. Zeke should also apologize for playing like a dirty bastard against Jordan and the entire league.
It'll never happen. Jordan's not the only one whose ever called him that name , and if you know anything about Thomas, you also know tha he , right along with Bill Lambeer, was one of the most despised players in the league nearly his entire career and after it too.
I’ve always said MJ was talking about Thomas and his actions then… not calling him an asshole now, smh. Thomas just in his feelings.
Exactly!!!!
Zeke is just a typical jealous loser. jealous he's mostly forgotten, jealous he's never (because he doesn't deserve to be) in GOT talks. jealous that Jordan took over his home city and gets morelove there than he does. all the kids in his family look up to MJ and it burns him alive. basically he's a 60 year old sore loser. when him and his thuggish team were bullying the scrub Bulls in the 80's it was all fun. when one or two of MJ's teammates developed into half decent NBA starters, well that was that and the rest is history.
Exactly
As usual
He said he still hates him. What are you talking about
Mj has no reason to apologize.. those are HIS FEELINGS.. if zeke don't like it.. that's on him
Zeke thinking that anyone let alone Mike is going to bow down to him publicly, he is out of his mind
Anyone expecting an apology from MJ is fully delusional.
You right he is too self righteous.
@@8td8tr Isiah has always had a salty vaj - lol
It's VERY feminine to hold grudges like this. A man should be able to drop emotions and do the right thing.
This is the trouble with black folks all too often and this is why black on black violence is so prevalent. The teaching of how to be a real man is nonexistent. And the honor + criminal culture is GARBAGE. It's all very feminine and sad.
And btw, I HAVE BEEN THE BIGGEST JORDAN/BULLS FAN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!! He is acting like a woman
MJ is a narcissist!! He puts down current players. What the heck is that??
So very true.
Isiah is acting like he wasnt a dirty player and a back stabber it's comical seeing him try and act like a victim
I agree
He wasn't as dirty as Laimbeer and Mahorn. They were the dirtiest.
Show me a dirty play that Isaiah Thomas did to Michael Jordan?
he's pathetic.
He wasn't dirty
There's a backstory to the MJ and Isiah "situation". Bobby Knight was the coach for the University of Indiana where Isiah Thomas played for him his entire college career. Bobby Knight also coached the "1984 Olympic Basketball Team" in which MJ played on (he had not played in the NBA yet. He was drafted that year). Bobby Knight commented that he had never seen a basketball player with MJ's skill and that MJ had the potential to be one of the greats (this is before he played a single NBA game). MJ's Olympic team played the "NBA All Stars" to prep for the Olympics that year (Magic, Bird, Isiah, McHale, Walton, Ainge, Parrish, Worthy, and Drexler was on that team). The NBA All Stars did not win a game against MJ's Olympic Team (MJ's team went 8-0). Those games were not that close either. The NBA All Stars were shocked at MJ's skill and that he was bringing those skills to the NBA (there is a lot of info online about this). Also, Isiah is from Chicago. MJ not only got more praise from Isiah's college coach than he did, went undefeated during the Olympic trials in which he dominated, MJ also took over the city he was from. So there is some jealousy there as well.
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I could not agree more, well said. Those are all excellent points to bring up, all of which are very true and definitely play a huge role in this intense rivalry.
When MJ came along he was other worldly and outshined all of the other NBA talent. Zeke wanted his hard earned and deserved share of the limelight along with the praise and love of his coaches and city. It's almost like an older brother being treated unfairly by the rest of the family. Isaiah was a great player, but MJ was the evolution of the game, which would become the next wave. I think Isaiah was jealous of MJ from the beginning, from that 1st team USA Olympic day. Lest we forget the all-star game freezeout, but then there's the popularity difference, money-making differences, and implementation of the Jordan Rules...
He uses the same old excuse all the time that Boston left the court without shaking hands with the Pistons after Detroit knocked them out of the playoffs in 1988. I'm not saying Bostons was right, no, but they left because the final game was in Detroit and they knew the fans would rush the court. It was more out of safety, but I'm sure part of it was being angry the Celtics lost. They did congratulate the Pistons after Detroit won though. Isaiah can't see how wrong it was to be so arrogant, disrespectful, and unbefitting of the downed champions. Why did he choose not be humble and respectful, congratulate the Bulls, and wish them luck? His whole story and career could be looked at differently, but HE made that choice and lives with the torment caused by his actions. He serves better as a terrible warning than a good example.
Interesting fact: if you actually watch game 4 of the 1991 Eastern Conference Finals, when the Bulls were about to complete the sweep of Detroit, with about 8-9 minutes left in the game you can see Zeke talking to his teammates and telling them of the plan he and Bill Laimbeer concocted to walk off in 1 final show of defiance. With just less than a minute left in the game, on the sidelines, you can clearly see Detroit head coach Chuck Daley saying and motioning, "No, don't do it/stop."
Plus Isiah's family embraced jordan like he was one of thier own as well .
Awesome.Thanks
🎯 Preach!!
It is clear that once MJ makes up his mind about someone, that is it.
I respect it and wish I were like that
@@blobcity3591 You should forgive but you may also not forget. MJ may see any relationship with Isiah as toxic. In turn, Isiah may benefit from counseling. It must be difficult to feel this about MJ.
Pippen and Barkley have way greater chances of patching things up with MJ than Isiah does.
LoL...
FACTS.
None of them fools getting no apology.
I think Scottie in a way worse doghouse.
That man said at his hof speech, when you say Jordan you say pippen.
Scottie should never said none of that shit.
Did you read Pippen's book?! He has absolutely no chance
If not just read the prologue, it's the best part
Scottie unfortunately has turned into a big baby just like Isiah. Bitter old men that wish they had the respect and recognition like MJ. I loved Pippen…. he’s disappointed so many of his fans and tarnished his name and legacy in the process. Maybe to help push his book sales but I ain’t buying that shit.
If MJ can't apologize to Charles Barkley, one of his best friends ever. What would make him apologize to Zeke?
Why would MJ apologize to Charles? What did MJ do?
@@JetEngine85 Barkley said he was a bad owner and mj cut off years of friendship.
@@Brofesional charles runnin hiz mouth he should have known better
@@Brofesional you don't say that when you're an NBA analyst on national TV. That could affect the team's value and cost MJ some money.
Didn’t Jordan score 60 something points against Isaiah ? If Isaiah is still thinking about the statement Michael made then he lost again in another way. 😮
man i forgot how smooth he looks getting to the rim and dunking on opponents, MJ fan for life.
He made the whole team look foolish trying to guard him.
are you from a cave for a long time?
Every Jordan's move is like a work of art and very poetic. Only Kobe was the closest to Jordan.
He made it look so elegant. Jordan had what one might say, "a "pretty" game. Looks effortless.
I'm a MJ fan for all eternity-there will never be anyone better.
You are correct. Larry Bird still holds a grudge against Bill Lambeer for one reason: Not because he was physical, elbowed people, or talked trash. Bird said Lambeer would try to permanently hurt you. According LB, Lambeer would intentionally land on Robert Parish's ankles, causing them to twist. When he tried doing that to Bird, Larry did it back and Lambeer stopped.
It is most possible that Laimbeer actually put his foot where the opponent would land. This may seem strange, but the weight that gets to the foot doesn't make much harm; but the player who lands is in danger of twisting his ankle.
@@giovanni_7191 you are correct. It's a strategic move without consideration of permanent damage to the opponent which is over the top, assuming that is what Lambeer was intending to do.
Apologize for the TRUTH. Really the truth will always sent you free
Your breakdowns are LEGENDARY!
They should throw Skip, Stephen A., Colin Cowherd and especially Nick Wrong and Watermelon Head Kendrick off TV as so called "Basketball Analyst" and hire YOU to do the shows.
I have been saying the same thing. I agree 100%, and get rid of Reddick to.
@@MrWoodstar1 It's "too" kid not "to"..
@@JetEngine85 stop the hate aw how do u kno if dude didn't mistype. I don't understand u spacial ass peoples today
Lol you can't be serious right?! All this guy does is what all those guys do (except nick) he pushes mj and rather than just sticking to facts he embellishes and gives only the context to his arguments that make Jordan seem like the goat. Always an excuse for why what magic did isn't as good ( not just magic pick any other all time great) it's the same finds a way to make it seem less than. But when mj has a shortcoming there is always a reason why always an out to lessen the burden on Jordan. This guy's is a clown and he and all the others like him (arnette rusty 2raw ticket dreamerspro) make their audience dumber because fools believe this spin on history to be true.
My guy there is no goat. This is a team game here. Mj is a great one no doubt. We should all just appreciate the greatness of all these legends past and present. Let's not act like Jordan or anyone is this perfect player. There are plenty on his level or better. There is definitely a few players who bring far more to the table than Michael Jordan did.
Thomas is just trying to save face here. I bet he was a bit surprised by what Jordan said in the last dance, probably been telling everyone that him and Jordan were friends up to that point. You can tell it's really important to Isiah that he is viewed as this really nice man who's a victim of unfair treatment.
You on point with this one I'm tired of Isaiah Thomas hating on MJ smh
Bro and his teammates actively tried to get the man injured for years and has constantly tried to down his legacy. Yeah, to me that kinda feels like "A-hole" is pretty mild for what he did. 🤷🏾♂️
Watch the tape. Why did Karl Malone split Isaiah's head open like a melon?
@@edwardtatum6136that was one asshole going after another asshole
Facts just sad and unmanly and how they tried to hurt them he is delusional
Jordan is chilling and enjoying life while Isaiah can’t get over it😂😂
What saved Isiah with Magic is that Magic valued winning back to back over his friendship with Isiah, which is hilarious because Isiah was trying dethrone Magic. Isiah is upset because he started the beef with Jordan when the 84 USA team beat the breaks off of the NBA All Star players (including Isiah) and his former head coach Bobby Knight said then that Jordan was the best player he ever saw. Then Jordan goes to Chicago, Isiah’s hometown, and becomes the city’s darling, then he becomes a phenomenon with his shoes, commercials and media presence. Isiah retaliated with the infamous 85 all star game freeze out fueled by Jordan wearing chains and his Air Jordan warm ups instead of Chicago Bulls warm up gear during the slam dunk contest against Dominique, rookie mistake. Isiah and the Pistons beat Jordan and the Bulls in the playoffs 3 straight years. The Bulls finally sweep the Pistons in ‘91 when Isiah and most of the team walk off the floor without congratulating the new Eastern Conference Champs. Colangelo and Stern see this as bad sportsmanship and strengthen their case for not selecting Isiah and instead select Stockton as the 2nd guard behind Magic for the Dream Team. His head coach, Chuck Daly, ended up coaching the Dream Team as well. Isiah loses to Jordan ultimately because he is seemly the type of person who tries to take matters into his own hands even if he is the original source of the turmoil and provocation. Both can be cruel and ruthless but where Isiah is mafioso, Jordan is Machiavellian.
MJ will never apologize. 😂
as he shouldn’t 😂😂 mj showed class until isaiah didn’t
No reason to apologize for how he feels about him lol
@@mikebuckets I'm pretty he's talking about the dream team. Magic already apologized for not wanting him in the team.
Michael Jordan Isaiah Thomas we are please be grown up and apologize to each other Stop acting like kids in and apologize you are a grown man's Prayer about it and let our Lord Jesus Christ take care of it both of ybuffalo or good players both of you
@@kayhuncho1015 not true at all, Jordan trashed the Pistons during talks with the media before the game, that's why the Pistons left the game early.
Good luck awaiting that apology Zeke…
Jordan was answering a question when he called Isiah an asshole as he was remembering it. This video is spot on 😊
Isaih, is pissed about two things. He's triggered by Jordan taking over his hometown of Chicago & being left off the Dream Team. He mentioned once how mad he was when one of his nephews came to a family function or visit wearing all Jordan gear. He said he made the kid change clothes. Now you tell if that ain't petty. I can see Mike & Charles talking again. Because I believe he really liked Charles. He knew Charles wasn't afraid of him. I can say the same with Oaktown. They've always been cool
Isiah isn't too happy that MJ took his college coach too.
Jordan ain’t even talking to Pippen and Barkley, who he likes. Do you really think he’s gonna APOLOGIZE…to YOU, Isiah?! 😂
...too funny...too real...to true..😅😅😅
He USED to like them. Not anymore. Not even the one who won the 6 titles with him in the 1990s.
Yeah, and what’s the common denominator?
Jordan hates everyone that speaks against him.
SMH.
if u saw the Isiah interview he said, if MJ didn't mean what he said, then apologize if not, then don't apologize, he's not demanding an apology
@@princeali1786 not hate , don't fucc with , and a man should be able to accept another man not fucking with him , especially after 3 decades.
When it comes to the "bad boy" pistons vs Michael Jordan. You can never trust a piston.
Except Rodman
@@TheLionaaa yup
@@TheLionaaa and Dumars
But the Bulls signed Rodman, Salley and John Edwards from Isiah's Pistons, how ironic. The Bulls admired the Pistons despite not beating them majority of the time.
@@mike.cdn7212 The only relevant player here is Rodman. Salley played 17 games and Edwards played 28 games. They averaged about 10 minutes a game.
Awesome video..laced with FACTS as usual!👊😎
The badboys beat the breaks off jordan but jordan living rent free in isiah's head for the past few decades is just priceless for jordan🤣🤣🤣🤣
Correction, beat the breaks off Bulls. MJ got his lol. Wasn't going to win until team improved
@@leonrivera9891 yeah beat the bulls but they litterally beat the breaks of mj....clothslines and bodyslams🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly! MJ don't need to apologize to people he don't want a friendship with.
I read this immediately after thinking it!🤣
should he insult them so?
@@bidou03111973 how is it an insult? IT was an ahole.
Exactly 💯 u now see wat he's like!!?
Bro I could listen to U and Charles frm Dreamerspro Show ANY DAY. U both r factual, unbiased, using info in the RIGHT and PROPER context and U both are honest...
For these, U both hv my respect and subscription. Another masterclass video❗️👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Facts!!
I love that you played great highlights during the narration.Thank you.
Oh, Jordan “meant it” all right. John Salley said the beef started on Isiah’s side when his nephew in Chicago was wearing a Jordan jersey. Being from Chicago, he was pissed and wanted to take it out on Jordan moving forward. He also said it was Magic that kept Thomas off the Dream Team.
Nah Isiah Thomas demanding a public apology is crazy 😂
Jordan said it publicly, the apology should be public. But he won't because he is a piece of garbage human being, who has gotten enabled well into old age by fanboys who think being good at basketball is pass at being a piece of garbage.
When that ENTIRE Detroit Pistons team from 87-the early 90s publically apologizes for being the dirtiest, most classless, bunch of SOBS in the history of professional sports, then maybe they can request an apology. As a diehard Boston Celtics fan, I'm certainly no fan of Michael Jordan, or the LA Lakers. But I loved it when Jordan's Bulls SWEPT the Pistons, and for the only time in my life, I rooted for the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA Finals to beat these disgusting punks. The players were despicable, their fans in the Silverdome were probably even worse than Oakland Raiders fans, and that totally obnoxious PA announcer they had back then, made people want to stick an ice pick straight through their eardrums. Let's not forget about Dennis Rodman and Isaiah Thomas, being piss poor losers to the Celtics, and both saying the Legend, Larry Bird, was overrated because he was white. Out of all the classless things that Pistons team did, that was surely the worst. Just imagine if someone said that Thomas was overrated because he was black!
Lmao like he has that kind of pull 😂
I mean, MJ called him in public, he kind of deserves a public apology. Btw are we all forgetting that he wasnt on the Dream Team because of MJ?
@@jitox playboy nobody wanted him on that team lol magic Scottie and Larry all said so.
Do you know how PISSED Isaiah would be... if MJ ever apologized to Chuck?? 🤣
That would be hilarious!! If MJ ever apologies to Chuck; they should do a sit down 1-on-1 on TNT. Just to piss off Zek & Scottie.
Mj don't owe Charles an apology....Charles owes him one for publicly criticizing him got dogg why can't y'all see that...if you say someone is your friend...as a true friend you do not criticize your friend publicly that's just the bottom line..Charles was the one who initiated that beef not MJ ...and don't come with that crap saying Charles was just doing his job...His job should not take precedence over friendship..There's a way Charles could of constructively criticize MJ ownership than the way he did ... remember it's not what you say it's how you say it that makes the difference...
@@vitosmith8195 I never said MJ owes Chuck an apology.
@@vincentallen1318yeah that would be something but here's where you know Michael is not even thinking or worrying about Isiah or Scottie. For him to do that would mean giving them the time of day. Nah MJ is beyond both of them.
@@Headintodreams agreed. Also, MJ’s grudges are eternal. Would still be hilarious, though.
The audacity of Zeke to demand an apology he doesn't even deserve. HE should apologize for what him and his teammates did to MJ. Bro was killing MJ everytime they played, that's why Zeke is one of the most unlikable legends in NBA history
Dunno about killing,maybe beat him up but when Jordan came of age,what happened 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Zeke mad Jordan took his city
One ‘a-hole’ doesn’t need an apology from to another ‘a-hole’. I’m tired of both of them period.
HEY 👋 YOU SAID NOT ME LOL SUMMED MJ UP IN LAST 2 SENTENCES 😂 IM OUT...
Isaiah needs to understand, MJ meant what he said. You will never get an apology.
Jordan meant every word of it. Isiah Thomas and the rest of his teammates tried to end his career by slamming him to the ground repeatedly in the ECF.
Bro the didn't let him dunk. The fouled him in the paint. Bird took a way bigger ass whipping than mj did. Yall need to stop. Was they rough w him yes but at no point was his career ever threatened when he and the bulls laced up to play the pistons. That's just factually incorrect
@@showtime6667 exactly, people aren't watching the actual games and weren't there to see what was going on but commenting on it with their young ass opinions lmao
@@showtime6667 Bird started playing when there was no flagrant foul yet and NBA was more dangerous in his era., But still from 85 to 91? 6 years of hard foul experience is no slouch and nobody is comparing MJ and bird's era other than you
Thank you and also after the bulls finally beat them in the playoffs Zeke orchestrated a walk off the floor without shaking hands now I ask you who’s the asshole? Zeke has done some other stuff too that labeled him an ass. MJ knows he’s anal about stuff that’s just who he is. Isaiah looks and appears weak to continually harp about this some 40 yrs later, really Zeke?
@@showtime6667 the pistons nevered injured jordan
Zeke's motivation is knocking M.J. down to raise up Lebron. It's Mike took your favorite coaches, got more praise and took those Piston losses with class. Did Mike walk off the court early after 3 years in a row after season ending losses?
Zeze is really mad because MJ became the "King" of Chicago with six championships 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 the city Zeke is from! That's called jealousy!
@@darrellbarnes1171 John Sally, Zeke's teammate, said Zeke was mad when he went home and saw his nephew with a Jordan jersey. Now add in the fact that Bird, magic and Mike hanging out, doing events together and patting each other on the back. Yes dude is super jealous, salty and bitter.
Zeke's coaches Daly and B.Knight broke his little heart
@@darrellbarnes1171As a native New Yorker I can say that MJ was born here in New York. In Brooklyn so no matter where he lives he's a native like me.
Its funny isiah wants him to apologize, but didn’t apologize for not shaking his hand
Exactly. It's super hypocritical. Jordan shook their hand each time they won.. after elbowing him the entire series and trying to literally hurt him. Then MJ and the Bulls deny their 3 peat, and Isaiah doesn't have the balls to shake his hand.
What was the root of the problem?
@@mike.cdn7212 Isiah being classless after losing to the Bulls.
@@BalloonFight facts 😂 😂 makes me laugh every time
@@mike.cdn7212 him and his dirty teammates 😂
The way MJ split the double team at 3:30 is next level.
NEVER apologise; ALWAYS UNCUT!!!
Isiah been dragging Jordan for years. Jordan talks a little smack and Isiah wants an apology. Ninja please!!!!!!
Lol! Exactly
Exactly this is why jordan don’t like him now zeke does shit act like he didn’t do nun but when someone does something to him they wrong this a 60 year old man with the accountability of a 20 some year old modern woman 😂
One a b always a 😂
@@nicoli-thenextup9866 You seen the clip of Oakley calling Isiah sneaky? One thing I admire about Jordan is that he doesn’t pretend. He is who he is and if you don’t like it fine. I’m sure Isiah has called Jordan much worse names behind the scenes. Look how he did his best friend Magic. Isiah is like the big brother who is envious of the little brother for surpassing him.
@@finitedesigns8430 💯
I said the same thing. Isiah speaks as if he was some beloved figure...He was a great player who was despised and burnt a lot of bridges during his career. I remember when Karl Malone elbowed him & was struck by how not only how no one criticized or condemned Malone's actions but how also no one spoke up for Thomas. The vibe was as if he almost deserved it for all of the dirty things he did as a player.
Thank you
Facts!!! Amen brah!!! All those dirty fouls and such burnt alot of bridges. MJ would never apologize to zeke cause all they did was try to hurt cause they couldn’t guard Black Jesus
Thomas, being a Chicago native is mad Jordan made him irrelevant in his own hometown.
@@Tamburello_1994 That is part of where I believe the hatred comes from.
@@g.benson8477 Oh for sure it is as Isiah is hardly, if ever brought up as a "hometown great" and that's not to diminish his contributions, but it's just fact. Plenty of names get mentioned before one gets to Thomas, some of those are "adopted sons" -- from other towns, at that.
Then there's the whole Dream Team thing...
Respect is everything. If Mike can say it to the world, he can apologize in front of the world. I don't think it'll happen. But he's not wrong for saying what he said.
MJ didn't win most of those games against Detroit but he sure did destroy that team as a one on 5 player. He absolutely abused Bill Lambier
KILT THEY ASS!!!!!!!LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Jordan Rules barely slowed him down
This you every episode: “So stopping (blank) right there” 🤓
Isaiah Thomas is sad bro. Smh. I love how he and everyone else likes to forget about defense and ignore consistency when they talk about MJ vs LJ
Isaiah is like begging MJ to apologize to him 😂😂😂
🤔😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 okay is it Me or does Isiah want to be friends with MJ? Or just on friendly terms?
I just find it funny how Isiah Thomas acts like the victim whenever he stirs up trouble. He did it with Magic after Magic's HIV confirmation asking if Magic was gay but then denies any wrongdoing. He did with Larry Bird when he agreed with Dennis Rodman that Bird would just be a normal player if he was black but then tried to deny it and then with Jordan he will go on Open Court and other talk shows and throw subtle jabs at Jordan and downplay what he achieved and now he acts like he is some victim. Its laughable really.
With Larry Bird, when he became President of Basketball of operations for the Indiana Pacers in 2004, he promptly fired Isiah Thomas as coach because Rick Carlisle was more likable than Isiah Thonas, thats a direct quote from Isiah Thomas. But we all know that Larry Bird hated the Bad Boy Pistons and their cheap tactics especially with Bill Laimbeer, but he knew Isiah was the chief troublemaker
@user-pb2jp2ib3r Chuck Daly was the coach of the Dream Team, he didn't fight for Isiah to be on the team. Larry Bird did not care. Magic Johnson also did not have a good relationship with Isiah Thomas at that time. There were other members on the Dream Team that did not like Isiah.
@@tashrif46 bill laimbeer said it well - the top players of the league still have the competitive edge so they can't let the past go
Isiah Thomas appears bitter due to MJ's star burning brighter.
I'm guessing Jordan doesn't care. Isiah, according to everything I've heard, is exactly what Jordan called him.
Nope MJ doesn't give a damn!
Overall - well said and well researched.
He has so many inconsistencies in this video...
@@allthingsconsidered...4894 a whole bunch of them! The guy who made this video was dick riding Jordan hard. Thomas isn’t innocent but many times interviewers bring up the Jordan stuff not Isiah.
If I was Jordan I would tell him again
Air Jordan used to play with the Pistons like a cat playing with a mouse before he ate it. The fact that Isiah 'Salty' Zeke Thomas wants a apology says it all he's butt hurt. 😂
Because he dissed Jordan, and wouldn’t even shake his hand because of some bitter feud in 1989
I love this content!!
I commented on that video of Isiah Thomas and said when I watched The Last Dance it felt like MJ was talking about the past and how he felt during that time
ALL FACTS , couldn't have been said better, especially the constant attempts at belittling Jordan's accomplishments, let him (Thomas) remain salty & keep being unprofessional & disliked all by himself.✌️
This is why multiple players didn't want Isiah on the dream team. Isiah going around saying he only accepted Magic and Malone's apology because they did it publicly was a bad look. Isiah also called Jordan an a-hole publicly. Jordan owes him no apology at all.
Truth. People talk like he wasn't on the Dream Team because Jordan didn't want him on the Dream Team. But the truth is it wasn't just Jordan. A lot of the guys on the team did not want him on it.
Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen and some others didn't want him on it, but Magic Johnson and Charles Barkley both said they felt bad for him, and that he should've been on it. Jordan should've just said (about the walkoff) "If that's how he wants it, I don't care. We finally beat them and are going to the finals and that's what matters."
@@michaelnoel9998 Wrong. Several others felt bad for him and said he should've been on it. Stop the hate on Isiah. Laimbeer and Mahorn (1989 only) were the worst of the bad boys.
@@ILoveOldTWC You're full of it! Jordan, Pip, Magic, Bird, Malone, Drexler didn't want him there. That in the aftermath some understood he deserved to be their is another story. Even his own coach didn't give a shit nor the GM.
@@ILoveOldTWCblah blah blah, they all felt bad bud no one spoke up because as bad as they supposedly felt they were glad he wasn't there because they all had feelings towards his style of play.
Realistically jordan is supposed to hold a national press conference to apologize? 😂😂😂
He should send Isiah a fax saying “I’ll never apologize.”
@Ron Isiah should transition into a woman since he exudes all the characteristics. Perhaps then, MJ would pity her, understand her innate insecurities, and send her a flower but never an apology. That would be sexist.
@@elituco6632 he really does right? Something wrong in that boys head.
🤣😂🤣😂😉😂 oh noo (falls over laughing)
MJ didn't cheat the game, but Zeke did. You don't duck the sportsmanship part of the game, win or lose. He was shown proper respect for winning, but punk'd out in defeat.
Got it all backwards MJ was in his city talking bad about him after Isiah done been Nice to him and his family in chicago MJ not coming with them street ethics I guess lol Isiah Got the Best of MJ an MJ knows it!!!
@@jbl7946 Zeke got the best of him? I don't think so!
Bird and Celtics did the exact same thing
@@luisvergara6502 Zeke is 3-1 against MJ, and beat him time and again in the regular seasons. He absolutely got the best of MJ. Thats an objective fact my man. And its the REAL reason Mike hates him
@@billybob5337 Ma man, Jordan has a 19-24 head to head in the reg season with Zeek, so to say Zeek beat him time and time again in the reg season is bs. Zeek won 5 more games. In those 43 games Mj's 31.6 ppg to Zeek's 21.0 ppg, again to say Zeek beat him is also bs.
All Jordan needed was some help, and once he got it Zeek was swept and had to change zipcodes.
It's fair to say the Pistons got the best of the young Bulls, but to say Zeek got the best of MJ is plain dumb. There's a reason Zeek got 2 while Jordan got 6. And it's the same reason to this day Zeek is still yapping at Jordan every chance he gets . Jordan took over his NBA coach (Daly), his college coach (Bobby Night), and his city (Chicago), not to mention the basketball world to this day.
So who got the best of who?
Zeke will never get over not being on Dream Team one and Michael being more beloved in Chicago his hometown and MJ has no f*cks to give.
Isaiah learning the hard lessons. U KNOWWWWW U WISH would have shook his hand ✋️ 😂
At some point, you have to wonder if Zeke likes to be humiliated ... otherwise, why even go there again?
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9:56
This is one of my all-time favorite plays.
That entire sequence was serious!! That move was GOAT level!!
Jordan used past tense in the last dance when he was referring to the Pistons and Zeke.
Jordan’s numbers increased in the playoffs. He dominated in the 4th quarter of games. LeBron, as great as he is, famously had unproductive 4th quarters against Dallas in 2011. The following years he did play like a beast in the finals win or lose, but Jordan always seemed to come up huge when it mattered most. Making his free throws, a timely steal, clutch baskets. Even a masterful assist to Steve Kerr in 97’. He predicted exactly how the Jazz were gonna play him and told Steve to be ready for the open look.
1 that pass to kerr is the exact same lebron has done but yall scrutinize him for it and 2 the video had absolutely nothing to do with lebron bringing shit up for no reason dont gotta tear bron down for no reason at all
@@jit1709 Bron is being scrutinized cause many knows there is a high probability he could miss that shot and so does not wan't to take the responsebility and pass the ball. With Jordan on the other hand even knowing that he can make the shot, cause he is doing it all the time, still he trusts his teammate to do it.
@@hensali78 no bron could make shots like that in the clutch in his prime just as well but he passes it out bc hes a smarter player and he made the right basketball discision
@@jit1709never made a single game winning or game tying shot in the nba finals. case closed
@@vineezyproductions9638 false game seven 2013 finals made a mid range jumper over kawhi to secure the chip facing a far superior team than mj ever played now i believe mj is and goat but still support bron and don’t try to tear him down just to win an argument
I remember watching that game in high school.
Honestly thank you for making truthful videos because the national media is full of it 💩
I'm getting tired of isiah Thomas being a crybaby. Can't take that dude serious anymore
You don't apologize for speaking the truth. Nothing to apologize for.
Thomas WANTED to be the villains of NBA they wanted to be the Raiders of Basketball and when your the villains be ready for the consequences and how the public views you, at least Lambeer owns being a villain to this day but Thomas doesn’t he’s changed because of how his peers and public viewed him like MJ said.
🤣😂🤣😂 oh hell yeah. My thoughts exactly. Lambier owns that shit! He owns how he played against MJ and is not apologetic. I respect that of him and I'm a Bulls/Jordan fan. Whereas Isiah...well his, "It wasn't me" but it was Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne who beat up MJ. I'm like really Isaiah? I guess all that motto of bad boys for life is not real for Isiah huh? Or at least it isn't when you want MJ to understand "It was those guys not me."
When Charles Barkley said he felt bad for Isiah and that he probably should've been on the Dream Team, that's when Michael Jordan decided to part ways with Charles. By the way, it's not right to hate anyone.
By the way, it was NOT 1990. It was 1991. 1990, Pistons beat Bulls in playoffs for 3 straight years in 7 games.
TAKE THIS L ZEKE........ IM DYING🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A rivalry you don't see in the NBA today. How many of today's players would not break after such defeats?
How many of today's players would be fighting if another player in today's league do to them what Pistons did to MJ? For sure for sure.
Everyone felt that way about Isiah. Theres a reason he wasn't on the dream team. This guy is still butt hurt over getting swept.
Swept tryin to 4peat 91 Detroit won that 88 title LA stoled it.. mike didnt even play his 4th yr he was worn out!!
Isiah tried to get MJ ex teammates to go against. I think isiah is tripping off. He is going grow old and bitter.
Le Bron doesn't make those around him better, in fact every star that has ended up on a team with him actually sees a dip in their production. On top of this Le Bron shows consistently that he needs stars supporting him to win, where as Mike could carry a team out of shear will and could be counted on in the clutch to get you the W. Isiah doesn't even believe Le Bron is better than Jordan, he is just but hurt that Mike doesn't love him.
That’s how you know MJ is the goat. His words have as much impact as his legacy.
Everything in this video just solidifies the truth:. MJ=GOAT!! And it ain't even close!!!
Zeke the sneak!!
The good old days of the NBA and sports period.
Thomas is the robin of perkins. Both are sports comedians!!!!
Expecting MJ to apologize is like expecting Isiah to own up to the way his Pistons played. While bygones should be bygones, MJ’s feelings are completely justified. The video does an excellent job summarizing the issue, however it should also be pointed out that Isiah never owned up to his Pistons either
See how he throws his own teammates under the bus by exclaiming it was Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne but not me. Why in the hell is Isiah calling out names? Talking about his former teammates and blaming them? For real? If he can't live with the blame why bring up others?
MJ is right about Isiah... MJ is wrong about Charles
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Say asshole on nat TV is wild af mj is wrong
You see I think the problem wen it comes to MJ n Charles is no so much wht he said I think it's abt how and where he said it bcse he cud said the same thing in a more conservative way on television but say it raw to MJ's face but in all Fairness to Charles he speaks Raw abt everyone else so he gonna Jam MJ the same exact way and hey thts just Charles.
@paxonhellofoyd7275 if you listened to the video, he called him an asshole in the past tense. He didn't say he's an asshole now. And quite frankly Isiah deserves to be called an asshole for his unsportsmanlike decisions.
Maybe it’s something else to it. Maybe it was prior events that led to that. Who knows.
@paxonhellofoyd7275 you say wht you wnt until you've being put in the same spot and hey it may not be as bball player but your boss cud be sayn something to you and you cud simply say out of anger WTF do I look like an Asshole in front of other wrkrs and hey tell me if tht isn't neat the same thing.
I'm from Detroit and I've never ever with my own two eyes witness no 1 every better then MJ ever in my eyes 😮
The media shows Jordan on offense, but he was a good defender, too. He took the ball away from Isiah Thomas for a dunk.
Defensive Player of The Year was MJ so...
THOMAS SHOWED "TOTAL" DISRESPECT....AND HE WANTS JORDAN TO APOLOGIZE.....SHEEZ
After all these years it's really something about how we talk about all the hatred for the Pistons - the Bulls, Celtics, Knicks, and even the Lakers .. man everyone hated them
Michael shouldn’t apologize
Thomas comes out every so often going on shows and interviews continually bashing Jordan
What has Jordan ever said about Thomas?
Good for Jordan
I love Zeke…. He needs to take the high road on this one and let it go. He’s never going to apologize. Remember his Hall of Fame speech? 😂
Jordan is still in the head of all his former opponents... that's how much of a GOAT he is.
Nah Bill Lambier is doing just fine. 🤔 Whereas Isiah Thomas not so much.
This is senseless. Think they shouldn't have retired. It seems they have too much time on their hands.
He paid the price full stop. To me he offended Jordan enough that he was nominated out of team USA.
Thing is with MJ, and anyone who’s seen any MJ documentary/interview knows that when he’s talking, he’s “in the moment” and talking from the perspective of being on the court at that exact time
There is one thing I'm going to correct you on here. This rivalry did not happened in the nineties. It happened in the mid-to-late eighties. This is when the Detroit Piston bad boys were at their Peak and Michael Jordan in the Bulls were coming up and nipping at their heels to take over the east.
MJ once told Shaq never help your competitor up on the court!
We are dirt poor and disrespectful and we are rich and still has fleas.
Bruh😂This video alone shows MJ doing some godlike basketball moves. Aerial pump fakes and reversals dawg? 😂 🐐
zeke in his feelings lmao