10 Biggest Differences Between the Game of Thrones Show and the Books
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The Game of Thrones TV show very closely follows George RR Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire novels, but there are still tons of differences between the show and the books, especially in recent seasons. Since there’s not enough time in this video for every change they’ve made, I’ve gone and found the 10 craziest differences between the Game of Thrones tv show and books.
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Euron’s story is the greatest atrocity to me. He would’ve been a more sadistic, and arguably more brutal villain than Ramsay, instead of some Jack Sparrow wannabe.
Right?! The books tell us of a this sinister man who’d sailed all the waters, drank warlock wine and that’s just scratching the surface, the show gave us a brooding pirate with one of the least satisfying deaths plus lacking screen presence in general.. egh.
HBO's Euron sounded like he came from another show and one day stumbled into the GoT set
Let's not forget that they completely left out the best iron born - Victarion.
@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg I've never read the books so may I ask what euron was like in the books?
@@hunglejewel you may!
He was arguably the darkest character, known for travelling the world, partaking in the darkest of magics, cutting out the tongues of his own crew.. the list goes on with this guy.
But so much more happens with this character in the books, even up to now where he’s most likely plotting something mind blowing.
I’d have more of an in depth review but I’m slightly rusty 😂👍🏻
Ramsey makes Joffery look innocent
no, even in the books he's a cunt
Wtf no Ramsey killed reus bolten and he doesn't kill u for talking back to him but Geoffrey is a vicious idiot
And Euron makes Ramsey look normal
Elon Cohen lmao if you’re talking about euron from the show that is very false
@@bobjones5869 I think he means in the books, Euron is much worse than the show portrayed him as and has a more wicked look
Imagine how epic would it be to have a GoT reboot, only this time, it strictly followed the books
It would be far more boring if you ask me as there are many idle scenes. Especially with A Feast for crows.
Let's wait some 15-20 years, maybe then. :) Or maybe we'll get a movie.
Raktim Banerjee It’d be a lot more controversial. Things like Daenerys being 14 would cause a lot of uproar.
Mathias Saumur Morissette Yeah I guess you’re right.
Mathias Saumur Morissette+ They have the violence in the show tuned down for a reason. Some scenes in the books would just be so downright disgusting to film even HBO wouldn’t accept it. I highly doubt some of these actors would even act on these scenes. Sansa’s rape caused lots of uproar and it was a rape that happens off screen.
Since the show went straight south, time to read the book.
Kazoushi duuuudeeeeeee....
Yah the books are great u should read them
That’s exactly what I’m doing lol on clash rn
Shane Eckler Wait until u get to Storm that one is amazing best by far
@idont knowlol Dude, take a chill pill. You need to relax.
Jorah was not Lannister's spy, more like Robert's Baratheon spy
Wich king of Angmar more like, Varys'es grown up little bird
Mister Duch nice 👌🏻
Truth
More like Varys' spy
Witch-king of Angmar was part
"Sansa got off real fucking easy"
LMFAO
I don't actually know what the acronym LMFAO means, but I gather you are disagreeing with the statement you have in quotes. Have you read the books?
Sybille Stahl
if you don't know what it means. look it up. LMFAO. and I've read the books multiple times.
I was using context clues. Did I get it right?
Sybille Stahl
How can you gather context clues from a quote and an acronym you don't know?
No by the way.
Sybille Stahl laughing my fucking ass off (lmfao)
Lady stoneheart sure says a lot even though she can't speak
Like R2-D2
Qwerty Manova nah we understand r2 because other characters can understand him and speak back to him most of the time
RobExploit kinda like Kenny from South Park
@@NastoKing,yup.One thing to remember
😂
To add to Ramsay's monstrous nature, he didn't just cut off Theon's fingers. He flayed the skin from them and left Theon in pain. He only cut off the fingers after Theon had begged fue to the agony. The books mention that the first time this happened, Theon tried to bite the finger off to end the pain, but was caught and punished for it.
Nick Pliakis I remember the beginning of one of «Reek»'s chapters where the pain was really well described.
At least TV Theon has a limp
Nick, it's still my hope that in the books, where Ramsay is still alive, he will somehow find himself as the prisoner of Euron Greyjoy, who will proceed to teach him what real psychopathy and real torture are. That would be the ultimate karma for him. Ramsay fancies himself a badass but compared to the real psychos he's still just a spoiled little boy playing with knives.
Also though he isn't a eunuch it's only suggested
nobbynoris nah Ramsay’s pretty badass
The show is a completely different story from the books, starting in S5 that is.
I think this guy didn't even read the books, and just went on ASOIAF wiki.
There have been major differences since season 2 (think Robb's marriage or the Battle for Blackwater Bay), but it first started really deviating from the books in season 4.
season 1 was the only one that was actually accurate in my opinion. season 2 already had many different things, like Cersei trying to poison Tommem or Robb actually imprisoning Cat for releasing Jaime. Though most were not differences that overall changed the plot.
I'd say Season 4 was the last season that followed the books storyline, but after that it went a different direction.
Nah, the story stayed true to the books prior to season 5, they just had minor changes that didn't affect the plot.
Whoaaa the story of Catelyn Stark in the books is so sad man.
It really is but she was also very hateful so many people overlooked it
@@lucasalexander3795 I still like Cat in the books, despite her flaws
@@lucasalexander3795 yeah but 99% of the time the most hateful people are the saddest
Honestly cat is one of my fav characters in the book... but as a mother myself maybe that's why I'm drawn to her. Tyrion is just as amazing and jamie in the book is my outstanding best! TV done him sooo dirty
@@matthewaleman4401 or rather the saddest people are the most hateful
"Follows the books very closely..."
*LAUGHS IN EURON*
poor mans ver. 😂😂
The character I missed most of all was patchface. He was so cryptic and mysterious such an intriguing character. The books are so much better than the show and I loved the show until season 6 when it sold its soul for special effects.
delution is a mental ilness
Prince Doran. Myrcella, Jon Connington, Victarion, Penny, Quintyn, Princess Arianne, Marwin, the kindly man... yeah, there are a LOT of differences between the show and the books.
not to mention rickon is still alive !
Also, Neither Arya nor Lord Walder are present at the frey pie incident...it's the boltons and Rhaegar Frey after being missing for too long. And it was orquestrated by Lord Manderly...who is absent from the series.
We need more Victarion! Fucking Badass!
Still he plays a larger role in the books
Viserion Targaryen Lord manderly popped up in the winds of winter during Jon snow's king in the north scene. He is guy with the white hair and beard who is not unfortunately too fat to sit a horse.
Aegon in the books isn't confirmed and is really questionable. He may actually be a Blackfyre.
Jorah doesn't have Grey Scale. Jon Connington (Griff) does.
He Could just be a dude from essos with valyrian blood...
I bet you were surprised!!!
Blackfyre were died out centuries ago.
@@sega616 Blackfyres are bastard Targaryens. Can always make a comeback
Christopher Suchy
In the show, I doubt it.
Books.... Still somewhat doubt, but slightly less simply because the author hasn’t finished the books yet.
....ramsey...is....worse?!?
whoa
Everything is more detailed and well thought out in the book. Even the Red Wedding.
Man the book sounds amazing.
mustafa chey read them you will not regret it
@@LolLol-cg8en pls which is more graphic and violent the book or the series?
@@strangerinmoscow6858 I’d say the books because Ramsay is way worse in the books and book Euron is way worse
@@LolLol-cg8en or the audiobooks
The 1st book is a masterpiece you won't regret reading them
Been a long time since I read the books but as I recall, the Waif isn't a total bitch towards Arya in the books. Also, Arya being a warg is described in a fair amount of detail.
Daniel Kunkle "waif" is in fact, a sort of a friend to arya, teaching her about great many things, while personally taking lessons of the common tounge from arya.
same can be said about other members of the faceless men.
as for Arya being a warg, it is the main reason why she is doing so well over there, in fact, that may have been the reason they recruited her
Daniel Kunkle Actually its hinted that all the Starks exept Sansa are some kind of warg not has powerfull has Bran but at least with theyr wolf
Cameron Cochard and it's pretty obvious that Sansa would be a warg if her dire wolf hadn't been killed
Not except Sansa. They are all wargs, as GRRM has confirmed. Sansa just doesn't have her wolf so her warg/skinchanging powers haven't awoken yet. We also don't know if Robb's ever did, or if Rickon's have yet. Bran, Jon and Arya are the only confirmed Stark wargs in the sense that they have actually used their powers.
mr. turtle Possible but like she feels the more southern i thougth maybe she would not have had the abilities at all or maybe its just the wolf
You neglected what I think is one of the most important changes between the books and the show: Robb's marriage. In the books he breaks his oath to Walder Frey because in a fragile state he sleeps with an unmarried noble lady and values her honor above his. Frey then betrays him for it. It later turns out that the whole thing was a Lannister scheme, including the attempt to make Robb fall in love with the young Jeyne Westerling. In the show however he falls in love with a field nurse in what is a glorified Disney story and completely abandons his plight. This totally undermines both the intrircacy of the scheme in the books and the character of Robb Stark, who valued duty above all and was a brilliant strategist who acknowledged the severity of the war they were in.
Stannis Baratheon is alive and well in the books. How did you forget that?
Uh so are Theon, Jorah, and Beric. What's your point?
@@robbymulvany2109 No Beric is dead in the book
@@robbymulvany2109 Beric is dead in the book
@@mike.n.n.7723 my bad. I had forgotten about Lady Stoneheart
Robby Mulvany Theon and Jorah died in this season though. There’s not a book for this content yet. Whereas Stannis wasn’t supposed to die.
8:12 that picture tho.
Okay, I'm sorry but I have to comment on this.
First of all, there was no logic involved about Stannis' defeat. Just plot armor and a story that made no sense.
D&D have been demonizing Stannis from the start. Stannis truely is a champion of light and good in the books. Even though I don't like commenting on the show as it is a D&D fanfiction, Stannis had good intentions about sacrificing Shireen. It was one life vs a million.
"I never asked for this crown. Gold is cold and heavy on the head, but so long as I am the king, I have a duty … If I must sacrifice one child to the flames to save a million from the dark … Sacrifice … is never easy, Davos. Or it is no true sacrifice"
- Stannis, to Davos Seaworth
He did not sacrifice her for power as you foolishly stated. Stannis is obsessed with duty, honor and justice. His duty as king made him go north and save the realm vs the Others, aswell as the wildling attack. His duty as king was to offer the wildlings salvation.. and yet again, his duty as king made him rally the north behind him to crush the Bolton theives and seat a Stark at Winterfell, uniting every northener under the Stark banner to fight the Others.
In the books, the snowstorm is a thousand times worse than the show, and about 70 people dies becouse of it. Stannis yet won't sacrifice anyone. Not even Theon, a prisoner of war who deserves death for his crimes.
Clayton Suggs - "A sacrifice will prove our faith still burns true, Sire."
Godry the Giantslayer - "The old gods of the north have sent this storm upon us. Only R'hllor can end it. We must give him an unbeliever."
Stannis - "Half my army is made up of unbelievers. I will have no burnings. Pray harder."
Stannis will not, and can not sacrifice Shireen in the books. It would make no sense to do so aswell.
Stannis is at Crofters' Villiage, which is weeks away from Castle Black (Shireens location). People do not teleport in the books. Meaning Stannis have no chance in hell to get there as he is preparing for the Battle of Ice.. and winter is coming.
Stannis would only sacrifice Shireen in a extremely hard situation if it ment saving the realm or not.
Stannis have not killed anyone in the books, who did not deserve it. Only people who had committed serious crimes.
Yet you speak of him as he would be a villain. Even show Stannis who have been butchered by D&D from the start, is still the best person to sit the throne.
I feel the show has been moving more towards a generic hollywood endgame.
Mithridates It has for sure. No doubt about it.
Mathias Eriksson thank you for actually knowing your a song of ice and fire knowledge. It's so hard to explain how great a character Stannis is to people who haven't read the books. You just nailed his character right on the hesd
Ben Ortiz Thank you, and I know your struggle. I can paste a text twice as long as this, on top of this one.. and maybe then I would be satisfied. Once you understand Stannis' greatness, you're a stannerman for life.
D&D handed stannis's battle to Jon Snow. Even with two fucking seasons to do the northern campaign, they fail again and again to do the proper northern conspiracy. Will Stannis sacrifice Shireen himself? maybe. Stannis's faith in R'hllor is shaky at best, and GRRM has always portrayed him as, in his words, "in spite of everything he is a righteous man." Stannis has not had any true sacrifice yet. Edric Storm is a boy of little importance. Alester Florent, Mance Rayder, and the Peasebury cannibals have all committed crimes. I think the show did a good job portraying that Stannis truly loved Shireen, but the sacrifice scene was rushed with little to no justification. will stannis sacrifice his greatest love for the realm? yes. But it will be for his duty, not his ambition. Stannis's entitlement and ambition ran out when he arrived at the wall. He knows that he should be saving the realm to win the throne and restore the north even if it means he will die. Even if you consider 20 good men to be reasonable, what happens after is a farce. all the sellswords left with horses, so they still have a considerable number of horses. if they eat all of the horses left, stannis still has near 6000 men, well fed, with spears, against the bolton vanguard. Easy win. season 5 has no logic at all. If they cut the dornish bullshit and get rid of the pretty but useless episode of hardhome, a proper battle of ice is easily achievable.
Honesty if the show was exacly lke this books then most people would just feel too disgusted to actually wanna see it. the things that goes down in the novels is just baffling and i cant imagine any director wanting to shoot a scene like that.
Or just stupid, like resurrecting EVERYONE. Fuck that, I would have left Jon dead too.
Wyatt Flint
Yea he is kinda of a little bitch
Nick Armstrong You don't have to add those parts. You can tone down certain scenes. But still follow the overall plot. And its not like they ever showed Jeyne have sex with the dog in the books. It was only implied.
Nick Armstrong Agreed! Honestly, this video made me happy I didn't read the books. I appreciate the simple, condensed version of the show. I easily concluded that Ramsay was capable of ANYTHING. I didn't need D&D to show it all to me.
One of the biggest differences could be the actor's portrayal of Brienne. She played her completely different from what was written giving her a bold, confident and cocky edge which she never had in the book.
I love how the narrator just became casually vulgar halfway through the video
l Z I Right?
Concerning Bronn, I have always wondered why a sellsword who used to work for the attainted younger brother would become Jamie's companion and second in command of Lannister forces. Did the Lannisters have no competent generals in their whole army? I expect the changes are fan service, since Jerome Flynn is so popular.
Probably, however Bronn is also hinted to have participated in sieges before, so perhaps Jaime knows exactly what sieges they were, and as such recruited him for the upcoming siege of Riverrun. His cunning for and dirty tactics could have also played part in it, as maybe Jaime needed him to find a quick way to end the siege instead of starving them out like the other commanders would do.
Its probably fan service, though.
This is based in the medieval times where family name, honor, rank, and prestige take charge so yeah this is fan-fiction. The idea some sell-sword could take charge of army and lead men whose names are carved in the history books is near impossible. In the books he married lloys stokeworth and is in charge of Stokeworth castle with a small force of mercenaries after dodging an assassination attempt by his new brother-in-law with the backing of cersei.
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It was supposed to be Ser Ilyn Payne but due to the actor getting cancer they changed it to Bronn
Bronn was training Jamie how to reuse a sword. He didn't want anybody else knowing about it so he was paid well for his silence. Bronn also didn't sugar coat it when he practiced with him. Jamie was a great swordsman at one time, so he seen the actual skills Bronn possessed,therefore could use him as a sword arm if need be.
Perhaps Robb Stark's marriage deserves a mention as well. In the books he marries a western noble (Jeyne Westerling). And his wedding to her was actually a plan devised by Tywin Lanister and Sybelle Westerling.
Also, leaving out the visions in the House of the Undying was ill-advised. Those visions have been a MAJOR influence on all of Daenerys' actions in and after "A storm of swords".
And to add to that, there is a possibility that Brynden Tully has run off with the real Jeyne Westerling who may be pregnant with Robb's heir (or that Brynden will impregnate Jeyne and that they'll pass off the child as Robb's heir).
This theory mostly rests on the greatly contrasting descriptions of Jeyne by Catelyn and Jaime in their POV chapters and speculation.
@@stanleylee5358 GRRM said that the difference in description was an accident and it was a mistake he made I just thought that it was because different people were describing her and Jamie’s judgey 😂
@@vanillax4038 True. However, it does leave open to GRRM using that as a backdoor in the future if it ever came to it.
Though, I do vaguely remember an interview where he said one of the painful parts of being a writer in this modern era is that information travels between fans too quickly and very soon readers zero in on mistakes and best ideas and see exactly where the author is going. I think he was referencing R+L=J with this. Throwing a curve ball wrecks his own story because the curve would have no setup. Sticking with the original plan and confirming popular reader theories will seem predictable and uninspired.
I think instances of mistakes like these, are kind of a blessing, in that they usually fly under the radar and end up becoming an out while still maintaining a modicum of justification.
Also, in the books Robb's wife survives the massacre.
She survived cause she wasn't there. Robb left her at Riverrun so he won't offend Walder
" she shouts out sword saving there lives" wtf? Care explain cause that made no sense
Basically Brienne was given the choice of “sword or noose”. Sword refers to her taking her sword, going to find Jaime and kill him or, Noose; be hanged. She said she refused make that choice so she, Ser Hyle and Podrick were hanged, during the hanging “she screamed a word” and most people believe the word she said was “sword”, choosing to kill Jaime Lannister.
@@kingnikolai5799 thank you
@@kingnikolai5799
She might also have screamed HONOR because that's what she cherished most. Or maybe even the name of the gay king she was in love with...I forget his name...the one killed by the shadow.
@@RedWhiteAndBlue4evr1 Renly Baratheon.
It’s been a while since I’ve read it, but I believe it says she’s shouts “one word”, it doesn’t tell us what it is, and in a later chapter she is free with no explanation, looking beat and tired, she finds Jaime, telling him that she found one of the Stark girls, and he goes with her. It seems like it is probably a trap. I don’t think we definitely know what the word was, unless there are some other preview chapters out there that I missed.
To all the people complaining about changes, you need to realize that it's much easier to narrate a story in a book than it is to film it. Some parts of the story have to be altered on screen in order to aid in its progression. For instance, the book version of a story can introduce multiple characters that wouldn't have the required air time to develop in a movie. If they introduced all the book characters, plot progression would be impeded and viewers would be confused. Also certain characters would look too grim and their make up would be to complicated if they were to appear exactly as they are described in the books (ex. Tyrion and Theon).
This wasn't a movie though, it was a 8 season series.
some names have to change also. because people get confused watching the show. Theon's sister was actually Asha in the books, and another woman was named Osha, but they changed Greyjoy woman's name to Yara.
also, there are no White Walkers in the books. They're named "Others", but they changed it too so people won't get confused by the term "other" and think it means someone else or sth.
@@hanieh_art Even so, The Others isn't that difficult to discern, the same as OSHA and Asha. It doesn't justify the very mediocrity used to character development in later seasons.
@@hanieh_art and yes I've read all books, even A Knight of the seven kingdoms which is amazing.
@@hanieh_art, actually, Others were occassionally referred to as white walkers and the whole thing about changing names so people don’t get confused is stupid. It’s a very minor thing but if people who read the books don’t get confused, i’m pretty sure people who watch the shows can handle it especially since you can see what the character looks like in the show
WRONG, Roose was poisoned by his enemies
Not in the books. You must be one of those HBO fans that pretends to know about this series.
@@BombShopUniverse r/whoooosh
Bomb Shop dumbass its a joke because in the show Ramsey tells everyone he was poisoned by his enemies after killing him.
Usman Malik Its called humour!
😂😂😂
Rumor has it GRRM is actually pissed about Shireen, and is not going to die like that, if at all.
www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/03/14/game-of-thrones-george-rr-martin-always-intended-for-shireen-to0/
the circumstance is everything. shireen is at the wall. stannis's battle with roose is no justification for her sacrifice. stannis is gonna be in the battle for dawn and shireen's death will make sense with that. jon's season 6 plot is a rip off of stannis's northern campaign in a dance with dragons.
I heard that GRRM hint that Shireen was going to burn, but he didn't say by who.
It will probably be by Melisandre and the wildlings at the Wall, Val specifically told Jon to have Shireen killed.
I actually think Stannis will do it because the only character who will suffer would be him. GRRM wants to portray the battles within the human heart. Melisandre and Val sacrificing Shireen is no true sacrifice. However context is everything. First Stannis needs to win winterfell, then the walkers have to storm south to make the situation desperate enough.
They also changed Euron COMPLETELY!
All of the Starks being Wargs would have been nice on the show. Bran-Summer, Jon-Ghost, Arya-Nymeria, Sansa-Lady, Rickon-Shaggydog and Robb-Greywind. Who all take the personality of their respective owners. Not to mention most of the wolves are alive in the books. Well 4 of them are sans Lady/Grey Wind.
no mention to the assassination of stanniss character on the show? oh yes I forgot that D&D shitted him so much that they turned him into a filler character that Noones remembers
Nop. About Shireen's death, the writers of the show said "when GRRM told us about it...", spoiling the girl's fate (like, if I may, assholes). But no mention of Stannis, who isn't in the same situation at all.
im not talking about his death but about destruction of stannis's character.they turned stannis into a religious fanatic in order to make dany and jon look cooler
no d and d are liars that cant write for shit
MrDexter eh I didn't like stannis in the books either, so i didn't care what they did with stannis anywho.That's just me though. And I don't think they made it so Dany and Jon would look cooler. Stannis was kinda square and I didn't like it. It was probably just to get rid of him to move the story along faster.
its not a coincidence that stannis's fanbase are book readers.show writers are obsessed with dany,tyrion,jon,arya and thats why they destroyed any other plot in order to focus more on them and make them more likable
Still thought Iwan Rheon nailed it as Ramsay
You forgot the BIG difference between the REAL House Martell of Dorne of the books and the LAME travesty of the TV series. Not to forget the show's substitution of the rivers and marshes of the Rhoyne for the fiery, volcano dominated smoking shores of Valyria.
I agree. The whole Dorne storyline in the series was almost unwatchable, which is a shame, because it was really great in the books.
Not really, I thought the Arianne storyline was pretty lame. Still though the show made it 100x worse. About the only positive thing was they got rid of Darkstar, who sucked absolute ass.
Mr. B. What was the dorne storyline in the books?
AmaR A Ellaria isn't Satan incarnated in the books. Matter of fact, she is the complete opposite: She actively dissuades her daughters from seeking vengeance for Oberyn. Myrcella doesn't die.
@@ramaboy10 The 3 oldest Sand Snakes (Obara, Nym and Tyene) all wanted to start a war with the Lannisters in revenger for Oberyn, but in different ways
Obara wanted to take a force to attack King's Landing; Nymeria wanted to assassinate Tywin, Jaime, Cersei and Tommen; and Tyene wanted to crown Myrcella as queen since she was the rightful monarch after Joffrey according to Dornish law (In Dorne, the eldest child is the heir regardless of gender). In response, Doran locked them all up
But Doran's daughter Arianne took up Tyene's plan and ran away with Myrcella planning to crown her as queen (mainly because she thought that her father meant to disinherit her as heir in favour of her brother, and this was an act of rebellion)
It turned out that Doran had made a secret marriage pact that meant thay Arianne would marry Viserys Targaryen when they got older. But since Viserys was dead, Doran sent his son Quentyn to Meereen to ask Dany to marry him and bring the Targaryen dynasty back to Westeros
I have just watched several CZcamss like this. Yours is by far the superior of them all. Please create Part 2, it would be awesome to watch as this one. If needed you should also creates more parts than that. Congrats!!!
"the game of thrones TV show very closely follows George RR Martins A song of Ice and fire" lmao yea right.
Between Sansa, Stannis and Aegon, you chose Bronn to be #1?? WTF?
SimplyLex Fuck sansa
SimplyLex it's not a top ten
Fuck you
Hey guys can you help? In the video the guy said Aegon Targaryen was rehygar Targaryen’s son, making Him nephew to Danny Targaryen. I’m confused on the part of Aegon being Danny’s nephew.
Bob ross aegon/young Griff is a bookonly character who looks exactly like a Targaryen
Time to buy the books
Then fund a patreon to get GOT remade
4:46
That's Dante, dude...
I was just gonna write that! XD
Hell yeah
That an emo boy
Thanks for forgetting to mention my story...
Your fault for killing your own daughter (on the show).
Elisha Nguyen He conveniently forgets to mention that's it's physically impossible to kill her at this point in the books. Not only that but he neglects to mention Jon's season 6 storyline is practically my dance of dragons arc . He also forgets Ser Davos' secret mission as well as the night lamp theory
I LOVE YOU THE TRUE KING
Stannis the Mannis
fucking exactly
The true King of Westeros!
When the screen version diverges from the original source, I like to think it's an altered universe. Different actions = different outcomes.
I dream of a spring that will never come
You should try the PS4 ''Game Of Thrones'' game , its about the small house of Foresters and the story is driven by your choices over the journey.
Its not just a PS4 game..
also no complete spoiler
PoppinBubbles but in this case
Different actions = same outcomes
In my opinion it's better to watch the series first and then read the books, because in this way you could imagine all the charachters and not get confused. (Although I always prefer to read the book first, but not in that case obviously :D ) I think that if you just decide to read the books without knowing how the charachters look like and what are their relashionships with one another, you might get really confused and might lose interest in continuing the story. But I can honestly say that the books give you much more interesting details and helps you to understand each and every charachter in depth.
The downside of this is that a show watcher might very well view the characters through the lenses of the show and then attribute things to them that were invented by the creators. Considering how many of them are exact opposite to their book counterparts (e.g. Lannisters bear no resemblance to what ended up on the screen, to name just one example), divorcing yourself from the show version might be quite a problem.
Oh... Something that should be on this list because it is huge: the iron born. No kings moot, no dragon horn, they change 'Asha' to 'Yara', Balon's other two brothers, the highest priest of the drowned God, and Victarion, the commander of the fleet, aren't even mentioned. In the books it's Victarion that sails his fleet to Mireen to ally with Dany etc etc. The Ironborn parts are so changed only how much of a jerk Balon is remains the same.
Oh... Jon and Arya both being wargs as well is a big change from book to screen
The iron orn changes are gigantic
The Bronn storyline would never happen in the show because Lena Headey and Jeromy Flynn signed a contract to make sure that they'd never be in a scene together, because they previously had a relationship that ended badly
Season 3, episode 1, breach of contract.
+Paddy .Cook yeah I thought about that, but I guess Headey and Flynn didn't mind bcus it's only for a two seconds and they don't even look at each other, let alone speak to each other
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I'd heard the whole thing about them dating, and then hating each other's guts.
It kind of explains how Jerome Flynn is never on the Q&A panels, despite playing such a popular character.
But I don't buy the 'contract' bit, since a contract is legally binding, and no corporation would leave themselves open to legal proceedings by asking actors to breach the terms of their contracts.
''Very closely''
Just as accurate as the adaptation of the Dorne plot
Dornish plothole is garbage one dimensional.
Great video! One detail though missed about Aegon, is that per Tyrion's observations it's very possible that Aegon is actually Illyrio's Son with one of the last Blackfyre women- the Blackfyre's being part Targaryen and most of the lineage except a few women being wiped out in the Blackfyre Rebellion.
"All of Roose Bolton's sons"
WTF?! There was just one, Domeric, and Ramsay supposedly poisoned him, after Domeric decided to invite his bastard brother and meet him. Roose has no other children yet, Walda hasn't given birth yet in the books.
"They convince the Boltons that she is really Arya"
No, they don't. Roose knows she's fake, he just doesn't care. Ramsay probably knows, too. Jeyne suspects that he knows and hates her for it (of course it is, Ramsay has class issues and hates the fact he was born a bastard, so he must be pissed off that he only got a fake Stark heiress). The Boltons just want to convince the Northern lords that she is really Arya. It's for that reason that they needed to have Theon at the wedding, so he could "confirm" she was really Arya Stark, and it's also why they keep her locked up and don't show her much to the Northern lords after the wedding, for fear someone will figure out the truth.
Whether the assembled Northern lords suspect/know she's fake is a matter of opinion and less clear. Many readers think they do realize she's fake, and that this is exactly why they're not doing much to help her (as opposed to the clansmen who are miles away and think she's really Arya, and who are ready to go to war to protect "Ned's little girl"). It's a big theme in the books, the way that common people are used and discarded by the nobles as if they aren't even human - and it's an especially important theme in Theon's arc. His biggest crime was not "betraying the Starks" as Benioff and Weiss think, but the murder of two innocent children, who he had killed just to pass them on as Bran and Rickon. Pre-Reek Theon was a massive douchebag, arrogant, entitled, and treated lower class people like crap. It's important that he starts feeling empathy for another victim and risks so much to save her even though she is NOT a Stark, not an heiress, not Ned's little girl, not a noble with a great name, not "important" - just a steward's orphan daughter who is seen as expendable and used as a Stark kid proxy and victimized, just like the two miller's boys were. A lot of people are trying to save "Arya" - Jon sends Mance and the spearwives to save her and risks his oath for her, the clansmen are ready to fight for her - but Theon is the only one who does it while knowing that she's not actually Arya but an "unimportant" commoner (and keeps that secret from everyone, knowing that Jeyne would probably be left to her fate if people found out).
Of course, the showrunners managed to completely miss the point and decided that Theon needed "a real Stark" to save.
I don't want to comment on your comment that Sansa "got off lightly", other than to say it's gross.
I agree with the "got off lightly" comment. Also the Northern Lords do think that Jeyne is Arya. Most of them would have spent more time talking to Robb and Sansa and probably ignoring the other Stark children when they visited Winterfell. Lady Barbery Dustin herself says that; "What do you think passes through their heads when they hear the new bride weeping? Valiant Ned's precious little girl. Lady Arya's sobs do us more harm than all of Lord Stannis's swords and spears." The Northern Lords are not doing anything because they are scared of the Bolton's and Frey's in Winterfell, some don't do anything because of hostages at the Twins, the Umbers are a good example of this. Without those hostages, and lack of manpower from the major war, the Bolton's and Frey's would be hanging by their entrails from Winterfell's walls.
He did have children, but they all died in the crib, or from still birth.
Like I said, it's questionable, and I've seen very different opinions on the matter of whether the Northern lords assembled at Winterfell know/suspect that 'Arya' is fake or not. I'm not sure on the matter, but I know some people who believe that they do realize she's fake. We can't know for sure because we only see the northern lords through Theon's POV, and they're unlikely to be fully sincere with Boltons or Lady Dustin. Also, in the latest Winterfell chapters, after the dead body of Little Walder Frey was found, Wyman Manderly dropped all pretence and openly showed his hostility and contempt for the Freys (he had learned that his son had been released by the Lannisters) and there was open conflict between the northerners and the Freys.
Theon thinks about the fact that someone may notice that Jeyne is older than Arya is supposed to be, and thinks multiple times that her eyes are 'the wrong color' - he's clearly thinking that some people may realize she is not really Arya. People may assume that a girl that age can change a lot in a space of 2 years, and some girls can look older than their age - but if there happens to be someone who saw Arya at some point and noticed that she had the typical Stark look, with grey eyes, they may notice that the girl presented as Arya has brown eyes, and eye color does not change once you stop being an infant. The repetition of that phrase 'and her eyes are the wrong color' in his mind suggests that it's something that's important for the story.
Ramsay murder one of Roose secret son, Troy Bolton and his long-lost cousin once removed, Michael Bolton?!
@ Levon Gevorgyan "die in the crip" or murdered in the crib, that is the question lol
danerys hair gets burned off when she joins drogo on the pyre!
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Yea I just read that part. I'm re-reading all the books after having watched the show. Emilia Clark would have looked "different with no hair
And then she goes around wearing a white lion skin pelt.
Twice. Yeah that always bugged me...oh well.
I love how you start out by saying it follows the books closely. That may have been the case earlier, but it's not even close to the books anymore. It's taken a huge left turn.
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First you say it's surpassed the books and that's why they're different and then you say it's a level above the books. Make up your mind you tool. And it hasn't just surpassed, it has clearly taken the story in a completly different direction you asshat. And maybe you should learn to accept not everybody sees it the same way you do.
Stop being such a little child and accept it.
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Oh dear me a grammar nazi. When you have no arguments you can always try grammar. The last stand of the idiot.
We can do this in my language if you like? Yes, no, maybe?
Nothing like little children trying to act up online. It just doesn't get anymore pathetic then that.
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So i misunderstood a word. That completly fucked it up for you? You could not understand anything i wrote.
You just changed the subject because you have no argument. In my head i couldn't really understand somebody would say it surpassed it in everyway because of cinematography and music. That is just mind numbingly stupid. Doesn't even have anything to do with what i wrote. Compeltely indifferent, but hey i misunderstood a word so i'm the idiot. Again you little child, go fuck yourself. Did you understand that little boy.
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You don't get angry online. The word you're looking for is annoyed, cause you're an anoying little boy.
And the majority of people like transformers and Donald Trump. So conrgats, you're part of a huge group of idiots.
But you're right the cinematography and music is much better in the show then the books.lmfao.
And i've never ones in my life heard any self respecting adult use the word asshat. You're not fooling anybody kid.
It's going south
would love to see a part two with more differences. I forgot a lot of these, since I read the books first.
hell yea i want part 2
great work man
Oh yeah, in the books it is Jon Connington that gets the greyscale and not jorah, I forgot about that.
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Can't remember who Jon C is ...
@@88happiness Hand of the King (Mad King Aerys) after Tywin who was given "a simple task" to catch Robert Baratheon as he was hiding in a town called Stony Sept. Connington failed and was expelled. Which actually saved his life, as Jaime killed his follower along with Mad King
@@SuperCosty2010 Thanks. I guess I should reread the books. His name seems so 'normal' compared to the other people. There are a couple of them in the book and they always seem out of place.
Everything past Season 5 is D&D's fan fiction. GOT no longer coherently follows the books, it now caters for those who have never read the books.
Uh, it was already doing that, that's how you make money if you're making a TV show.
Wyatt Flint If that's so then in hindsight Martin should never have agreed to a adaption of he's books.
Well, perhaps they didn't want to wait until Martin finished all his books? Furthermore, nothing is taken away from the fans of the book: You can still read it. What is there to gain anyway from watching the show, if you already know all the plots?
testthewest123 past season 5 everything is less of an adaptation and more of D&D's bs. I was so excited to see Alexander Siddqui as Doran but they killed him off and for what? And Stannis wasn't supposed to die plus many other storylines and characters that could have made the show more interesting were cut out and for what? Basically they are making a adaption of GRRM's books but if they wanted to do a different take on a ASOIAF they could have just said so. I'm a fan of the show because of seasons 1-4 but now everything is marred by bad pussy, torture porn, shock-factor deaths and ruining GRRM'S tale.
It's ALEXANDER SIDDIG! Not Siddqui
“The show very closely followed the books , but there is still ton of differences “
So it doesn’t , or does it ?!!!
Well vid's kinda old
Cool vid, would really like some more explaining the differences. I read all the books but I often forget the details.
2 words: Dorne plot :(
Even my friends (who don't read the books and only watch the show) told me, "that sand snake story was kinda lame."
That's what happens when ya leave out Arianne and Young Griff! You get crappy writing.
Dorne sucks. Books and show. I understand the importance, especially because of the history, but man is it boring for me to read and watch.
The Sand Snakes sucked. If you actually read the initial Dorn chapters in the novels you see that the Sand Snakes only appeared at the very start of the third novel. They were like a tiresome wank-fantasy of Robert E Howard, with their scornfully flashing eyes and their highly improbable martial superiority over men. The story then rolls on to its actual point, ie to Doran Martell and his wayward and ambitious daughter Arianne, and Doran's long game to change the 'constitution' of Westeros by assimilating the rest of Westeros with Dornish law - under which a girl child has equal right of inheritance with a boy, which, according to Dornish genealogies, places Arianne Martell as the rightful heir to the Seven Kingdoms.
The Sand Snakes in the novels are nowhere near as lethal as they think they are.
When one of them comes up before Areoh Hotah demanding audience with Doran Martell while Hotah merely regards her with weary contempt., her aggressive, threatening manner prompts Hotash to tacitly hope she won't push him to reveal how dexterous he truly is with his ceremonial axe. When they implement their plot in conjunction with Arianne to kidnap Cersei's niece to hold her hostage Doran Martell's intelligence is so accurate that he is aware of the plot as it starts and is able to apprehend all of the conspirators individually. Which hardly makes him the weak ruler of the tv series.
Basically, in the novels, the sand snakes are just a footnote in the Dorn segment, which actually prioritises Doran Martell and his fractious relationship with his daughter, who considers him as a weak man. Perhaps the reconciliation of Doran and Arianne are the real narrative thrust of the Dorn segment of the novels.
Yeah they should have included Young Griff. That was one of the best twists in the novel
@@snamorsixteen maybe because hes a fake and the real aegon is jon snow
Feminist outcries really watered down this show.
Also book Euron is very different compared to show Euron. Show Euron is shit.
Book Euron is acuall frightening show euron is mising his CROW EYE
I agree, Book Euron is a real menace, who raped his brother's wife, he announces himself by having Dragonbinder (a horn that can supposedly bind dragon's to the master's will). Show Euron is like the drunk uncle and black sheep of the family.
I agree. Very poor casting, in the books he sounds like an absolute beast of a man.
Don't forget Victarion. One of my favorite characters from the books and he's simply missing in the show...
yeah rhllor and the drowned god combined is so cool icant wait to see whatt happen when he arrives in meereeen
In the books, Khal Drogo slays a Lion and brings the skin to Khaleesee
To be fair, Roose only had one son other than Ramsey. And we don't even know if Ramsey killed him. Some readers think Roose killed Domeric himself because the kid was too nice.
Oh, and hte whole Grey Scale thing did happen, just to Griff (who is really John Connington, friend of Rhaegar).
if Bronn dies I'll wack my tv
i will watch you both
He should have been burned alive by drogon
he wont fooking die i feel it
Roose Bolton knows Jeyne Poole is not really Arya Stark, I think Ramsey does too
Jaemi Zahra-Hall Obviously. Its the name they need.
I'm just finishing to watch the series again and then I'm starting with the books. I can't wait!
I would like a part 2 to this! Thank you!
I'm glad they toned down Ramsey though. Book ramsey would have even been too much for HBO. The difference are many, but the show and books are still wonderful to me. good video.
the first 5 seasons had 20 years of writing behind them. the 6th season was completely off the top of the head.
and now we have season 8, the show is barely recognizable, feels like a completely different show with same characters in it.
indeed, its unfortunate how it started of as an interesting/unpredictable show with lots of intrigue and character depth then eventually degraded into a cliche action movie, with shallow characters and unrealistic chains of events.
Season 6 is arguably the best season of GOT. "The door" "Battle of the bastards" and "Winds of Winter" are easily in top 10 eps of the series. Season 5 was hot garbage, and 7 it starts to deteriorate before 8 ruins everything but oddly enough u got 6 right in the middle of that mess as my personal fave season
@@BCNick22 really, even with the shit dialogue and introduction of gremlins
@@11gingin never said it was perfect but having 3 of the greatest episodes has to put up there as one of the best seasons imo... Plus the final two set everything up to potentially be great... And they f'd it all up... All subjective in the end
Victarion and Lady Stoneheart were the two things I couldn't believe weren't in the show
7:21 Bronn didn't marry Lollys in the TV show. Jamie showed up before the marriage ever happened and promised Bronn huge sums of money, a larger castle, and a much prettier lady to wed. Bronn still hasn't been given these things and even complained about it this season. But he never married Stokeworth.
Eastwatch by the sea, in A Feast of Crows, the Eastwatch by the sea plays a mayor role, and Cotter Pyke the lord commander there, is hugeley important for the narrative of three whole chapters, but he got skipped in the show...
Also, The Frey Pies...happen very differently in the books and neither Arya nor Lord Walder were pressent at the moment.
That's because for some reason the show completely ignores the most badass of the northern lords, Wyman Manderly! His storylines have been given away to Arya and Lyanna Mormont and don't even get me started on his epic "the North remembers" speech.
Great video! Do a part 2 :D
is that a jinx cosplay on your profile pic?
Black Glasses nope that was my haircolor for a few months ^^
Jonna Panda Bengtsson oh ok nvm then lol
The fact that Jojen survived un the books and is now safe made my day better.
Until he returns home to Greywater Watch so he can die. He had a vision of dying when he returns home, and just wants it to be over.
Some people believe he died and was in the werewood paste Bran ate. He doesn't appear in the books after that, as of the fifth book.
Just completed A dance of dragons and I'd go as far as say season 1 is the closest but ultimately fails at being accurate. In our first scene with Waymar, it's very clear he the White Walkers were interested in Jon. Ommiting Waymar and the trap the WW set caused issues.
The books seems a better story
Damien Temiyi never mentione the dorne storyline ever again worst disappointment ever
jmoneyy1984 nah movies are better than books.
They are. Plots make much more sense, and the world overall feels real.
Umber siding with Bolton also didn't make sense.
"Always"? Dont know about you, but Ive read up on some things on the Witcher and compared to the games, they are kinda boring.
Could you do a video on little things that were changed for zero reason...like Asha or Yara being bisexual-even though she had a steady boyfriend in the books? (the diversity is great, but why not put in Dany and Cersei's experiences vs make up something)
I will never forgive David and Dan for nt including Lady Stoneheart in the show. She's such an awesome character
Agreed
@@itsniquenique45 She is barely in the books so I don't see how it is even a big deal
@@abzi03 Brienne and Jaime storyline
I think this is one of the few too-dark stuff for the show.
Hate when he says Berick found lady stark it was nimiria that pulled her from the river arya wolf
D&D handed stannis's battle to Jon Snow. Even with two fucking seasons to do the northern campaign, they fail again and again to do the proper northern conspiracy. Will Stannis sacrifice Shireen himself? maybe. Stannis's faith in R'hllor is shaky at best, and GRRM has always portrayed him as, in his words, "in spite of everything he is a righteous man." Stannis has not had any true sacrifice yet. Edric Storm is a boy of little importance. Alester Florent, Mance Rayder, and the Peasebury cannibals have all committed crimes. I think the show did a good job portraying that Stannis truly loved Shireen, but the sacrifice scene was rushed with little to no justification. will stannis sacrifice his greatest love for the realm? yes. But it will be for his duty, not his ambition. Stannis's entitlement and ambition ran out when he arrived at the wall. He knows that he should be saving the realm to win the throne and restore the north even if it means he will die. Even if you consider 20 good men to be reasonable, what happens after is a farce. all the sellswords left with horses, so they still have a considerable number of horses. if they eat all of the horses left, stannis still has near 6000 men, well fed, with spears, against the bolton vanguard. Easy win. season 5 has no logic at all. If they cut the dornish bullshit and get rid of the pretty but useless episode of hardhome, a proper battle of ice is easily achievable.
StannyBWrath nut hardhome was amazing
why doesn't anyone ever include Tyrion's real back story and reason for killing his father in these vids?
Kyle thank you that is one of my biggest problems with the show is that tyrion had no reason to go and kill his father but in the books his father made him watch as his guards raped his wife then made his brother lie to tyrion about it (and Jamie and tyrions relationship was much better than it is in the show)
Tyrion talks about it in season one, but they chose to not complicate things by adding something that in the books is only mentioned in Tyrion's inner dialogue. They try to make it seem that Tyrion loved Shae in the tv-series, while she only reminded him of his wife in the books.
he talks about it
Kyle well they talked about it but without the rape part, I'm pretty sure that some people understand it that way
In the series tyrion tells bron that when he was riding around in the forest with some of the lannisters soldiers he saw a woman get chased and almost raped by a few bandits
tyrion commands them to kill the bandits and he helps the woman, he later falls in love with her and has sex with her. After this his dad later lets tyrion watch the woman he loves getting fucked by some of the lannister soldiers and reveals that the woman was a whore.
After this bronn responds with: I would have killed the man that did that to me.
I'm just starting the novels after falling in love with the series on HBO in season 4. I'd love another video highlighting more differences from the books.
Ramsay book version is gonna give me nightmares
both show and books are pretty good but when the show took its own path thats when it started sucking a bit
You can't think of it that way though man you have to think of the show a the idiots guide to game of thrones... It also mixes things up a bit and adds, fixes, and removes all the good and bad thing from the books and thats worth the risk... With that said they really did fuck up Dorne.
I think you should think of these changes as a type of fan fiction. The producers and writers are big fans of the books. Sometimes even with a huge budget they cant do everything along with pace of story and editing. There is so much going on that it would be to much information for one hour of TV for each episode. Also remember that even though they are please the existing fans of the books they are also bringing in new fans who have never read the books.
Also they can not really wait 50 years for the next book to appear lets be honest they will die before the next book is released.
Thanks all you guys for responding!
DeBlockBusters speeding through everything was the problem.
Lady Stoneheart might be in season 7 because (spoiler alert) on IMDB it says that in Season 7 Episode 1 the actor that potrays Catelyn Stark will be playing a ''Mysterious Lady''...HYPE
Theo Germando you can't trust imdb. Anyone can go in and change it
But it's still a possibility
Theo Germando I guess it could be. But at this point, there's really no reason. The Freys are probably going to go into ruin after Arya killed Walder and the Boltons are dead. It would just be fan service
Maybe they make it another reason in the tv-series
Wishful thinking is what it is. there will be no LSH on the show. D&D hated that idea for some reason and have converted her storyarc of vengeance into other characters'.
Plus, there have been too many resurrected characters on the show already, I can't find a reason they bring back another one.
Great video! Part 2 please.
wow,this is so cool,ive been watching game of thrones faithfully,i can not wait until next season,taking way too long,so after seeing this clip,i just might go out and get the books : o they seem much more interesting,as you can see from watching your clip,this is great,thank you for sharing this with the world,you rock; )
Well, D&D straight out said Shireen's death comes straight from Martin, and it shocked them to.
There's actually a bunch of difference in the books and it's like a whole new story on itself and it sounds more interesting than the show i might buy and read em
This is hella late but to you and anybody else who is thinking about it just go ahead and read the books.
A change they made that I really enjoyed was arya serving tywin Lancaster while at harrenhal. Those were some great scenes!
Good narration, makes me want to read the books again
Could you explain why shouting "sword" was enough to save Brienne, Payne and Hunt?
"If you think this has a happy ending.. You havent been paying attention"
Ramsay in a nutshell :p
Game of Thrones in a nutshell*
@@doctorpygmy6020 Game of thrones had a happy ending
Those were really interesting please do the next part
Superb research. I read the books 3 times and you still told me some stuff I never noticed
Depends, how many sets you've read
I should have read the books. There are so many questions in my mind about the faceless men and tyrion's back story. Books are always better cuz there's so much details. I wanted to know about catlyn stark resurrected as lady stoneheart. So many things in the books that the producers excluded. I haven't read the books but now I want to.
Huh? Brianne yells 'sword' and is saved? Great explanation. Lol.
T Pi In the books it is not stated which word she yells out, idk where did they get 'sword'
Lmao I noticed that too
Yessss make a Pt.2 !!
Pretty good. Jorjah Mormont kissed Denaerys in the book, not just tried. She was surprised and allowed him for a moment, but she didnt like it and then became very hostile toward him.
Also, I dont remember Strong Belwas in the TV show. He was a good character in the book though.
"All I know is Sansa got off real fucking easy"
Lmaoo
I don't get how Brianna shouting out sword! saved their lives?
it didnt, she told lady stoneheart she Will kill jamie
ohhh okay
I never got that either.
She had to choose dying by the rope or taking the sword in order to kill Jamie, when she shouted "sword" it saved her and Pod's life (and some other knight whose name I can't remember).
I always thought the decision "sword or noose" meant, if they want to get their heads choppes off or die by rope. I thought when she shoited sword, she could talk woth them while they prepare the beheading... :D I din't like the style of writing... It was something like "Brienne only shouted one word." chapter ends.
Cutting Lady Stoneheart really bugged me, because it ruined my 'look up what happened in the show if there's a cliffhanger' plan
This was great!