Top 10 Greatest Warriors in Westeros
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- Who are the top ten best fighters in A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones? Jaime Lannister? Gregor Clegane? Barristan Selmy? Number seven will shock you.
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0:00 Intro
0:21 #10: Victarion Greyjoy
1:54 #9: Loras Tyrell
3:09 #8: Brienne
5:01 #7: Garlan Tyrell
5:48 #6: Gregor Clegane
7:30 #5: Sandor Clegane
8:59 #4: Robert Baratheon
10:27 #3: Jaime Lannister
12:00 #2: Barristan Selmy
13:50 Honourable Mentions
15:10 #1: Arthur Dayne
What's your top 10 list?
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@Le Fishe no, the book.
One moment I definitely love about the TV series is when Barristan is fired, and he draws his sword. All of the other kings guard, Trant, Blount, Moore, Greenfield, and Oakheart don’t take him that seriously, but Sandor Clegane very cautiously loosens his sword in its sheath, because Clegane knows you don’t mess with Barristan the Bold. When he says he could cut through the five of them like cake, he means it.
I've liked that moment, too. Lovely bit of storytelling, showing us something without needing to rub our face in it. Back when the show understood subtlety (well, I mean, as much as it ever did, hah).
what do you mean not seriously ? they all draw their Swords even though he's alone
@Mani Thierry-mieg I mean they draw their swords, but they don’t seem to be all that frightened by the fact that Barristan Selmy just threatened them, when they should be crapping their pants at the fact they’re on his bad side. Selmy would kill Boros Blount in half a second, followed closely by Meryn Trant, since both Blount and Trant are described as only being average swordsmen by Jaime in the books, although Blount is significantly more useless. We’re told less about Preston Greenfield, but it’s implied he’s not much of a fighter either, since Robert had to hastily refill five positions on the Kingsguard after the rebellion, and he didn’t choose the most capable fighters. Mandon Moore and Arys Oakheart would last longer, especially Mandon Moore, who is described as the most capable fighter on the guard, after Barristan and Jaime. All in all, these five people wouldn’t stand a chance against Selmy.
Barristan was probably the only knight Sandor respected. Not only was he an incredible fighter, he actually upholds the rules of knighthood and doesn’t use the position to bully people.
@Ovskii What? Sandor road down a child and nearly cleaved him in two, and laughed about it. That's just among the shit we know about.
Still, in terms of prowess, Barristan would hold a similar tier of respect for Sandor as he did Jaime.
I feel like a lot of people underestimate Oberyn due to one silly mistake. He was playing with the Mountain until then.
Yeah he should have been ranked higher than the mountain because if he took the fight seriously he would have won injury free
@D if it was a real fight he would have lost, his spear got snapped in half and if he wasnt given another one he would have gotten split in half
@Isaac Trantinhe could have a squire that helps him and gives him weapons in case if it was a real fight.
Yeah Oberyn should be much higher up on this list. The fact that he was showboating doesn’t discredit how talented of a fighter he is. You know he’s taking down jaime every time
I don't know if oberyn should be ranked higher than the mountain. At first view it's obvious because he beats Gregor, but I think oberyn is exactly the counter to Gregor. Maybe there are other fighters who would win against oberyn but loose against the mountain.
Somehow, I found it absolutely hysterically hilarious that The Moutain "killed Beric Dondarrion twice".
I know he gets revived, but it still cracks me up.
And The Hound kills him again 😂
@Laura Benitez then he kisses a corpse and actually dies... Lady Stoneheart gets the final W
Beric vs. the Mountain = me vs. Margit the Fell Omen
And gets killed by the hound also
Legit like he comes back for revenge and gets killed again 😂
Sandor's fights in the show are some of the best we get in terms of realism. He fights without any particular rules restraining him - he'll punch or tackle them or kick them in the crotch if it helps him win. But unlike the Mountain, he fights with a great deal of skill because he actually observes and adapts to his opponents. He's one of the most dangerous men alive - substantial reach, enormous strength, surprising speed and dexterity and a willingness to kill his opponents using basically anything. He's not a master duelist like Jaime, he's a brutal killer with a wide array of tactics married to sheer physical dominance. I still doubt that Gregor, pre-pseudo undeath, could have actually beaten an opponent that can essentially match his sheer power, yet is _much_ smarter and more technically and tactically adept than the Mountain has ever had to be.
Basically, I'd bump him up a couple of spots. He's no Oberyn, and Jaime with both hands could almost certainly beat him too, but I really struggle to see who else in Westeros could beat him with Syrio Forel dead. Unless we're assuming final season Arya's around, because she can plot-armour through absolutely anyone.
I like this comment.I have a different taste and according to me danerys followed by hound are my favourite characters from GOT.its just like they are dominant all the time and also thinks logically.that makes them auspicious
I just read substantial as “subsatanical”
"he actually observes and adapts to his opponents"
Marvin Hagler was like that in the boxing ring. Strong and fast, with a head of concrete, cardio for days, and he would switch from orthodox to southpaw in the middle of the action to throw off any kind of range and rhythm his opponent was trying to establish.
Qhorin halfhand deserved an honorable mention based on how John describes him in the books. He lost his sword hand and learned how to fight with his other hand and was still considered the watches most renowned ranger and fighter
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Yes even mance and widlings know how dangerous he was. Halfhand was a freaking legend
I mean its basically head canon at this point that qhorin halfhand was arthur dayne
And what about Jon snow
@Nolan Hawkeye Anthony dude pls dont talk.
I have a head canon that Garland is actually the best warrior in asoiaf. I just like to believe he's overlooked because he has no gimmicks e.g. isn't huge like the mountain, speedy and poisonous like Oberyn, angry and big like the hound, no tricks with horses like Loras, no magic hand or no hand and a young kingsguard, faceless assassin, never cut his hair, isn't a fat king past his prime, an old kingsguard or a dead kingsguard.
He literally is a dead kingsguard though lol. He dies at the same time as Arthur Dayne doesn't he?
You might be thinking about Gerald hightower. Im talking about Garland Tyrell.
Not trying to be rude but it’s Garlan not Garland
Garlan is profoundly underused because his younger twin siblings have a huge role in the story that has to be focused on, which is unfortunate because the GRRM takes some time to build him up as an extremely cool guy before basically just evicting him from the story. It seems like a waste of the effort he made to establish the character at all.
Garlan is a straight up Chad. One of my favorite characters.
Barristan Selmy can be pretty much described with a single quote "Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young"
Hes like an artist, who only paints with red.
The best thing about Selmy is his record. He not only survived to old age in such perilous times but he proved himself as one of the best so he's got both quality and quantity in reputation.
@Vae Victis "He was a Painter...who only used Red."
When Barristan goes to capture Hizdahr and his gladiator-Kingsguard gets in the way Barristan's reaction is basically "Oh, finally. A sweet steel song, this is what I was made for."
After spending the entire book surrounded by plots and intrigue he is positively relieved by a man less than half his age trying to take his head off. Barry the Based.
I've never heard that quote before
Jamie is actually N1. Martin says so when he said that in a trial by combat he'd choose either Jamie or Dayne as his champion depending if they are using their own swords or standard swords. He'd choose Dayne if he has the Dawn otherwise he'd choose Jamie. This proves at least to me that Dayne was only stronger when he has Dawn by his side but without it Jamie is the greatest swordsman is the series. The sword Dawn just has magical properties as Martin himself has hinted too many many times. What does it do? Make you faster? Stronger? Simply better? Who knows but it does something to enhance the user as such it makes Dayne the strongest fighter. But Imo Jamie is the better swordsman. Not a fangirl or anything my favourite fighters are the long lost Targaryen's on dragonback. Just going by what Martin has hinted towards. Jamie was so good that for him to remain in the story and not just kill everyone he had to lose his sword hand.
Jaime had once told him that Moore was the most dangerous of the Kingsguard-excepting himself, always-because his face gave no hint as what he might do next.
Ser Mandon Moore.
Yes, I saw that interview as well. That's what he said.
I think you mispelled oberyn
he also said that Barristan and Arthur in their prime would be a draw, but with Dawn Arthur would win.
Piecing the two interviews together you could say:
1. Arthur Dayne (with Dawn)
2. Jaime
3. Arthur Dayne (without Dawn) and Barristan
That's just his opinion
Greatjon Umber the northern lord of Last Hearth is underrated. He is over 2 meters tall, wields a bigger greatsword than Ice. Jaime consider the Greatjon physically stronger than himself. He is implied to have contributed to defeating Jaime at the Whispering Woods, when Jaime fought Robb's personal guard and was dragged by the Greatjon afterwards.
At the Red Wedding it took 8 (!) men to subdue a Greatjon that had drank enough to kill 3 normal men.
Someone not mentioned here is Cregan Stark. He's regarded by Prince Aemon the Dragoknight (a legendary warrior who should probably be on this list as well) as being the most skilled swordsmen he's ever faced. I'm a little hopeful that we get to see something of him in action in HOTD as he is the current Warden of the North. We'll probably meet him anyway in the first episode of season 2 as Jacaerys is flying to meet him.
time period: Robert's Rebellion and the main series
I think Cregan or one of his sons will be invoved. The show is really playing into Aegon's prophecy and that would involve the Starks.
Yep n daemon blackfyre is definitely close to arthur with morning blade.
More like cringen stark
Cole>cregan
i just find it strange that Ned is not on the honourable since he held his ground against Jaime, who was actually trying to kill him. at least in the show. and he also fought Arthur Dayne and survived. so he has to be a very skilled fighter
Neds portrayal as a swordsman is very different in the show compared to the books. In the books he is never really mentioned to have been a great warrior and since the ranking is based on the books, it is not really a big surprise.
To add to that, in a game of thrones (book) eddard has his leg injured by falling off his horse rather than having a spear shoved through it.
Agreed. Considering the Tyrells are in there.
There's not a lot to suggest he was an exceptionally good warrior, but he was absolutely a fantastic tactician and strategist in war.
How about Jacquen and the Faceless men, they’re probably quite formidable, I’d imagine. They’d probably have all kinds of underhanded but deadly methods.
I think you're unfair towards Oberyn. He does "lose" the one fight that we see, but that had nothing to do with fighting prowess. He absolutely dismantles Gregor, and has him at his mercy. He could've easily finished the job if he wanted, but he deliberately delayed the kill in order to extract a confession. A fatal mistake, sure, but that was down to unusual circumstances and not his lack of ability.
Yeah it's pretty much like dismissing Arthur Dayne from the top 10 entirely and saying "The only time we see him fight he dies". In-fact it's pretty much the same thing, I would even argue that Oberyn fought significantly better and had a significantly easier time dealing with a significantly stronger opponent.
I agree. Oberyn's fighting style also makes him very unique and deadly. Now because this ranking says "no dragon no magic" I wonder if Oberyn's poison is then taken out of the equation, and AltShiftX only considered his spear skills.
@Cornelia Li Poison isn't magic though, and Oberyn doesn't really need the poison lol.
His fighting style is absolutely incredibly dangerous against opponents who rely on swords. A spear is dominant against a sword, even in the hands of an unskilled person (you can defend against 2-3 equally skilled opponents just with that advantage)
And since the knights of Westeros seem to mostly duel with swords, they really wouldn't know what to do.
@Namelikeanyother Well, I doubt Oberyn would've had such an easy fight against less overconfident foes like Brienne or Barristan. He clearly fights with a way of working up his opponent, making them angry and rash; so that he can take advantage of his speed. The Mountain was big, stupid and illiterate; capable of overwhelming an opponent. But a technically proficient enemy he is unable to best.
I think if you're allowed an extra special sword like Dawn you should pretty clearly be allowed to put some poison on your spear.
I think Euron greyjoy deserves an honorable mention as well, purely through inference. The man is a cunning manipulator and capable of immense cruelty, not to mention he braved the doom of Valyria to retrieve a number of artifacts, and nearly every Ironman is afraid of him to the extent that even victarion wouldn't dare try to fight him (though the sorcery might have something to do with that)
Absolutely, plus Euron having a suit of Valyrian steel armor is something people do not make enough of a big deal about, it's utterly insane. One of the things that made late medieval knights such powerhouses, especially the wealthier ones before the age of gunpowder, was just how advanced their armor was. Despite common media portrayals, being able to afford a full suit of played armor made you almost invincible to everything but a lucky hit. Perhaps Jaime could find a lucky weak point or someone with the raw strength of Brienne or Gregor could hit with enough concussive force to cause damage, but otherwise you are not getting through that. It's like Euron is running around in an M1A2 Abrams while everyone else in Westeros has at best a T-34. With that level of protection he doesn't even need to be that good of a swordsman, what are you going to do against him?
@derp herp right I forgot to mention the armor. He's functionally invincible, but without any of the typical speed and movement restrictions that usually go along with heavy armor since valyrian steel is incredibly lightweight.
@Jack Ci think the mountain could easily win if he used a poleaxe
Not necessarily. He might just be cultivating an air of strength that makes others too afraid to draw their swords against him, but that doesn't mean he's actually OP in a fight.
There big difference between a knight who is skilled in dueling and a warrior who fights wars.
In the books Robert Baratheon is the greatest warrior. Killing Rhaegar Targaryen who is dubbed to be the finest and noblest at that time. For those who don't know,. Rhaegar outclassed 3 legendary man in a tournament in Harrenhal where he unhorsed ser Barristen the bold, lord Brandon stark and ser Arthur Dayne.
Robert Killing Rhaegar is a notion that war is different to duelling and tournament because one mistake will make you lose your life
Exactly war is WAY different from tourney even if tourneys are there to help simulate combat and to help knights become stronger and more skilled with a lance as is their role as cavalry who pursue the enemy once they have broken ranks to get as many kills as possible. When face to face with an opponent in such a chaotic situation like a pitched battle even the best and falter and all it takes is one slip and it's all over.
@The Bob in a war setting more than 2 hands will try to reach you, more than 1 sword is trying to hack you.
I've been saying this for years, example, Jaime lanister won a tourney at a young age and is a true natural Swordsman, even so he never won a battle and war all his life.
@hex You can absolutely be a great warrior and lose battles. Even in all the battles he lost Jamie still did well. Hell, he almost killed rob stark and hacked his way through four of his bodyguards all on his lonesome
@Der Süddeutsche Sumpf are you literally calling that a feat? "Almost killed Robb stark" bro Robb is 14 And still he couldn't kill him. Ive search all the books and I can't even see how good Jaime actually is except to statements yet to be proven and his own pov. I mean it's his own pov, of course he is the main character in his POvs
Yeah, winning a battle is about strategy, not about being the best swordsman. Robert was not only a great fighter, he was also a great strategist and a charismatic leader, as far as we know.
Missing Syrio Forel.
Beating up about 5 Guards and a Knight with only a wooden training sword is something.
And he is brave and knightly,by giving his live for a pupil...
Aragorn is 87 years young and was trained by immortal elves (among others) and is incredibly experienced
I find it hard to believe Jaime could be better than him
The only man froma fantasy book who could defeat Aragorn would be Geralt of Rivia, the Witchers have magics,... and are very skilled with swords. Jaime is good...but Aragorn won against the nazguls ( 5 of them ?) with a broken sword and a torch ! And fight a lot of Uruk haï on Amon Hen and all the war of the rings he show how deadly he was with Anduril. And I have not even mention his raid on Umbar when he was know as Thorongil ( sorry for my english, I'm belgian ^^" )
@Utred Maethor agreed
Aragorn was a superhuman with heritage of both Elves and Human, and a king bloodline of that too, but Jaimie was just a naturally skilled swordsman.
George Martin only wishes that Jaimie could defeat Aragorn.
Maybe Andre Sakofski could compare his Geralt of Rivia with Aragorn son of Arathorn in terms of combat skills and powers. But not Jaimie Lannister, the guy with a rich Dad!
Aragorn was not even the best warrior in Tolkiens book that goes to Hurin from the first age who after all hes friends died fights Morgoths army alone for several hours before he finaly got captured
@skaraturbo Hurin was a man, not like Aragorn with quarter elf blood.
He charged alone at Gothmog, The lord of Balrogs (consider the Balrog Gandalf faced, that was a soldier. Gothmog is the lord) threw his shield away and killed his bodyguards of Trolls until his Axe literally withered away from troll blood and was only taken prisoner when Orcs managed to tie him because he was taking their limbs off when they grappled him.
I LOVE when Dany is deciding who should fight the Mereenees Knight in single combat and Barristan casually says "I've won more single combats than any man alive, your grace." He isn't bragging, he's just stating fact.
You get to see him fight in the books against the pit fighting champion and he just puts on a clinic.
"I will eat your heart old man."
"Then come" said Barristan the Bold.
He wins without taking damage. But it isn't just that, he beats the pit fighter using his experience. He doesn't bother blocking any attacks not aimed at his head, but instead lets the hits harmlessly bounce off his armor while letting the pit fighter get tired and using it as an opportunity to land calculated, highly damaging blows. Douche and Dumbass did him DIRTY in the show. Fuck those guys.
I'd love to see Barristan in his prime. The man was unstoppable when he was young, some of his feats are just hilarious, especially the Duskendale rescue.
@Anatol de Nevers We might get it on HotD. I wonder if they'll go all the way to Roberts rebellion.
@Chris P. Bacon I doubt it. They're still like 150 years away from that. Would be cool to see though.
@Anatol de Nevers Yeah unfortunately I think it's only going to go through the Targaryen civil war. But I'd love a separate Roberts rebellion show.
Strong Belwas was better & Barristan agreed, he even squired for him he was in such awe of his fighting prowess!
Breann will always be my favorite. Her tenacity and discipline makes her the best. On any given day she mentally and physically prepared. Her honor is leaps and bounds beyond any knight. The night she was knighted by Jamie Lanaster is one of my favorite parts of the show. I’m manly man and never choose women over men but in this case I’ll choose her any day.
Qhorin Halfhand has got to be up there somewhere. Already a deadly swordsman, he loses some fingers, trains with the other hand, and is described as even deadlier than before. Armored knights get a lot of credit, as they should, but Qhorin had been warring and fighting in the most inhospitable lands this side of Asshai for decades
And he kept the wildlings seething to the end. If hes a legendary enemy to them then you know hes a beast.
I was about to mention Qhorin! Absolute badass in more than one way, Qhorin Halfhand!
I was surprised he was left out of the honorable mentions
I hear you but we really don't hear enough detail to make a good case for him other then the general opinion that he's a badass.
@Steven scb Wasn't he basically described as the boogy man of the Freefolk?
Yoren Yronwood deserves a mention. Outnumbered 12 to 1 and took an arrow straight through the chest and still manages to kill half the Lannister Soldiers before they took him down.
And book Ser Mandon Moore.
Jaime had once told him that Moore was the most dangerous of the Kingsguard-excepting himself, always-because his face gave no hint as what he might do next.
My two biggest disappointments in the books so far were Rob's death, and Drogos death. Those 2 could have seriously made a much bigger mark, if not for treacherous actions. Rob was an unstoppable taction, and if Drogo got his entire tribe across the ocean, I'm not sure if there would be anything left besides fortresses under siege by the time the walkers got there. The Dathraki army might be worse then the dragons...
You should write your own books
You could have added Randyll Tarly to the honourable mention. We don’t see or even hear about him fighting one on one but when it comes to war he is a great military tactician which could still be considered a warrior.
He dealt Robert his only defeat in the field during Bobby Baratheon’s rebellion.
If we ever get the next book Loras may need an upgrade. I don’t see him dying from his wounds, I see him coming back with a tempered fury (if that’s not an oxymoron) and finally reaching his potential
I think Oberyn deserves a top 5 spot here for beating the mountain. His death was a fluke result of his anger and arrogance. I would also think Rhaegar Targaryen should at least get an honorable mention for putting up an incredible fight against Robert Baratheon and wounding him. Also maybe an honorable mention for Ned Stark and Howland Reed for “defeating” Arthur Dayne. The mere fact that they killed Arthur Dayne deserves an honorable mention even if the circumstances around the fight are sketchy.
I’m glad Ser Pounce has gotten the recognition he deserves.
Yeah but, honorable mention? I don't know.. I'd put Ser Pounce ahead of Loras.
Ser Pounce would paws down be #1 if he hadn't sold his family's legendary valyrian steel sword for catnip
Ser pounce has earn my respect so therefore my next kitten will be christened Ser pouncealot
me as well!
It is said that Ser Pounce ate his own balls after being neutered, just to show his determination to Varys.
It is accurate to say that who wins a fight is really a matter of the circumstances of the situation. A great fighter wounded, tired, and weakened may be defeated by an inferior warrior who would be easily dealt with when at full strength. I mostly agree with this list but it is important to remember how volatile and unpredictable combat really is. An unlucky step or particular combination of circumstances can cause anyone to lose.
In my opinion, I think there is an extremely good chance the Hound is one of the 3 people Jaime thinks could stand a shot against him
I think Oberyn Martell should have been included in this list. He practically defeated Gregor clegane in one on one battle.
Barristan Selmy is so underrated, would have enjoyed watching more action of him
The Jaime vs. Brienne fight leaves them both stunned at how good the other is. While Brienne is realizing that Jamie was handicapped by his long period chained to a wall (and having his wrists chained together during the fight), Jamie is realizing that Brienne had to limit herself mostly to defense and strikes that wouldn't lead to serious injury, as she had sworn an oath to deliver Jamie to King's Landing unharmed.
In laymen's terms, it was a stalemate. Though the edge could go to Brienne Of Tarth due to her size, height, youth and having more recent combat experience in a situation where she was distraught due to the sudden death of Renly Baratheon. However we may never know but viewers do know that they both fought together against overwhelming odds and survived to witness a TOTAL victory for the living.
Ha! I said damn near exactly that above. Brienne matches his speed in FULL harness, and while limited by the necessity of not harming him beyond a "flesh wound:
@Prajjwal Tiwari Done. Now delete your message, because people aren't going to know what you're talking about.
@Jesse Jordache Wow... we have a great subject and dude goes either maximum esoteric, or is a punctuation Gestapo. I bet he's Robert Aryn irl
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Rhaegar beat both Barristan and Dayne on the tournament of Harrenhal, as well as two other kingsguards. Of the three tournaments we know he entered, he won two and lost the other one on the final bout. I think him not being on the list is a big mistake, other than that great video.
exactly. Rhaegar is madly underrated because he lost for Robert on the Trident, but it's just like g.r.r martin says, in a battle between great warriors, the moment, the emotions count a lot you know, and Robert was furious like a beast on Rhaegar because of Lyanna. But everybody in the books, in the series says he was an awasome warrior and he did beat some crazy skillest swordsmans on tournaments
I just read maybe 50 main comments before seeing the name of Raeghar, THANKS I was close to lose all hope
I thought he only competed in the joust
@Jammes Jack don't remember, but I am sure that daenerys ask to barristan if he become a warrior and barristan say a big YES, a such compliment from a man like barristan is enaf for me
I think you should have included in the honorable mentions also the Qhorin Halfhand from the Wall, the Blackfish, and Areo Hotah. And perhaps even Jon Snow, as he seems in the book 5 in becoming quite good and has, after all, a valyrian sword, Longclaw. And, perhaps, I wonder, Jon Connigton.
There are many fighters we don't know much about. How about Uncle Benjin the First Ranger? How about the other Rangers? How about Ned's father and brother? Surely the north has some highly capable fighters too. The Red Viper deserves more respect. Certainly the list has to start with Arthur Dayne, and then Derek Barristan Selmy. Jamie might not even be top five. Robert and Gregor probably are about equal being just enormous men with training and talent. Gregor probably belongs below his brother. I don't even know about the knight of the flowers being in the top ten.
Oberyn is definetely better than Loras in any aspect, and since he easily held his ground against the Mountain until he was killed by his cockiness, he could probably take on Victarion and Brienne without much truble
Well Martin himself has said that Jamie's one of the best fighter in Westeros's history so he's definitely top 5. Ser Loras is only sixteen but in the camp tourney he's fighting a melee against most of the knights of The Reach and Stormlands two areas that tend to produce A list fighters and the whole thing comes down to him and Brienne. This company definitely had guys that were veterans of two major wars almost all of them are going to have a size advantage over Loras and he still beat everyone but her. Again the kid is 16.
-100 iq
Deamon blackfyre needs to be on the list
"The Hound then killed Berrick, which can be considered a family tradition at this point."
The savagery, the pure savagery.
I would probably rank Robert at number one. He had a healthy balance of physicality, skill, talent, cunning and sheer ferocity. It is hard enough to fight a huge, fast, strong berserker, let alone one in plate armor, let alone one with a huge long warhammer. His fighting style makes parrying, armor and even dodging mostly irrelevant. There is no good way to stop or withstand or run away from Robert's charge. The only way to win is to charge him first in hopes of piercing him through an eyevisor. Some fighters mentioned here could pull that off, but with low chances of success and even lower chances of surviving.
One of my favourite scenes in the show (which is taken straight from the books) is when Ser Barristan is dismissed from the Kingsguard. He is understandably furious and draws his sword, saying “Even now I could cut through the five of you as easy as a dagger cuts cheese.” The whole room goes silent and still. This happens because they know Ser Barristan is right. They KNOW that if he wanted to kill anyone in that room, there would be nothing they could do to stop him. So good!
Even the hound puts his hands on his hilt, real knows real
I don't know who the other kingsguard were at the time, but these knights usually weren't the best fighters to begin with. Was more about politics and who they could trust who ended up in the kingsguard. So yeah, probably no match for Barristan.
@Brent All the Kingsguard during the mad kings reign were some of the best fighters in westerosi history.
@Nostalgic Bliss yeah because he was paranoid, that's why I said usually
Tywin later scolds Cersei for doing it
I wish we could have seen a flash back of Robert. I imagine him swinging his warhammer like that scene from LOTR when Sauron is swinging his mace and you see 4 guys flying 30 yards thru the air!
You could make a case for Jon Snow being on the list as well. He fought wildlings, northmen, the dead, the lannisters, and survived all of it
I would like to see a list of best military commanders / generals to compliment this list. Robb, Tywin, Stannis, and Ser Jorah might not be the best warriors in single combat. But I would like to see them ranked in their strategic brilliance to win battles.
I loved the Victarion chapters in ASOIAF. When he takes the Shield Islands was epic.
What about Ser Quentyn Ball ''Fireball''. From the little we've heard of him he has Baristan level feats such as saving Daemon Blackfyre from the Kingsguard and killing a shit-ton of knights in battle alone. He sounds a lot like an Achilles type character were he was undefeated and in a ''Sworn Sword'' characters seem to think that if he hadn't died from a random arrow while drinking water the rebellion could've won.
Oberyn definitely goes above the Mountain in my mind; he had him pretty handily beaten and only died because he needed a confession. He was fighting for that rather than to simply kill and win.
True, his confidence was his downfall.
Honestly Oberyn might be number 1 in the proper setting, like a wide open area or with a slight uphill advantage. He was so far from losing against the mountain and he was *playing* with him! But for actual accomplishments? My money is on Barry Selmy but pure skill it's Jamie, even Barristan himself with all his loathing of Jamie calls him the best natural swordsman he has even seen.
EDIT to say, but they can all be killed by some peasant with a crossbow.
Yes! It’s similar to Victarion in a way.
Victarion dumb ✅ skilled fighter ✅
Oberyn too prideful ✅ skilled fighter ✅
Doesn’t matter in which way Oberyn died too, he has to be in the top 10 (imo). Just look at Dayne, dies to two guys nowhere near his level. Still a badass.
Seems to me that Oberyn's strength lies in his ability to duel. The reach advantage of a spear is less significant in a messy battle, and against more than one opponent. On the other hand, that's where the size and armour of the Mountain shines.
Being great at single combat is definitely a factor when considering the title of greatest fighter, but it's not everything. So I don't think he should outrank the Mountain.
Ned is underrated, Barriston says he cut down a dozen knights. He held his own against Jaime Lannister. Plus fought at the tower of joy.
Ned never fought Jaime
There are two different Neds. One from the book, other from the show. Book Ned is better than a common soldier but nothing exceptional. Jamie could take on 5 book Neds and kill them all no sweat. Show Ned is a WAY better fighter who seemingly holds his own against Jamie.
That was in the show, not the books.
Need is a GREAT COMMANDER and above average fighter.
@Man Guy he did when he was taken into custody. The fight was cut short after a guard intervened and stabbed Ned in the leg when his back was turned.
Hobbes once wrote in his 'Leviathan' that all are born equal because no one person can kill a hundred at once and all can be slain in their sleep. There is perhaps not a single warrior on the list that Jaqen H'ghar could not offer up to the Red God and yet H'gar himself keeps reminding us he is but a man and he can't be everywhere at once. Robb was a skilled and honorable tactician and fighter and yet he was caught off guard and killed. Could he have secured the North as an independent kingdom? Surely he didn't lack the capabilities. That is what makes GOT so enthralling, all of these moving parts are set in motion and infinite possibilities are unraveled. Martin himself might be surprised of the fate of some of his characters, he works as a sort of herald or mediator. Jaimie could well have lost his head in the Stark camp or he could have died without honor, but losing his hand forced both Jaimie and Martin to figure out who he was and where he was headed, now without the hand that defined his whole identity.
The Halfhand should be on this list. Greatest swordsman the Watch had ever seen. Lost his sword hand and unlike Jaime he actually got just as good fighting with his other hand. The only reason Job was able to beat him was because he let him
GGR Martin suggesting that Jamie was stronger than Aragorn is a really bold claim. As Aragorn was the strongest man in third age, by statue and even with his skills. He was 87 years old with mountains of experience, his life span was triple of the age of normal human.
for the time period in this video, in my opinion, aerys' kinsguard and kingswood brotherhood mostly clears (notwithstanding a few others - the mountain, oberyn, tyrells maybe) but over all of westerosi history, there's a strong case for a lot of people way back in the past (the dragonknight, daemon blackfyre, bloodraven, cregan stark to name a few)
Oberyn effortlessly beat the Mountain in battle, not a single detail in the entire chapter indicates he even exerted himself in the slightest. After reading the series over a bunch ive got to say its probably the most one sided single combat next to Barristan vs Khraz. He deserves a spot without a doubt off of feats alone.
Not sure I'd say "effortlessly."
Even Cersei in the show describes him as a legendary warrior.
@LegalSC im not sure there is a better word to describe the book fight. Oberyn was so quick he couldn't even parry the spear at all, he toyed with him the entire time.
The mountain isn't really a great warrior. He's just big and powerful. It's not unreasonable for a fast man with a spear to win that fight
@CMP He has more feats than most warrior characters though. He killed several renowned knights including Beric Dondarrion and a knight at the crossing whom he killed along with his horse in a single strike. Saying he isn't a great warrior is asinine because being big and powerful is part of what makes him a great warrior.
As for the spear, I again remind the comment section that Clegane is wielding over 6 feet of steel with a single hand, almost twice the length of a typical longsword. Oberyns spear only outranges him by a couple feet, so most of the advantages a spearman would have against a sword are null. Oberyn beat him with skill and speed.
Oberyn is an absolute beast, he is def. In the top 10.
Dorne is the only kingdom that resisted the dragons, we forget this too often.
I didn't read the books,but just finished the show. The Unsullied were way oversold by the slavers. Maybe they were meant for lining up in great battles and holding their own fearlesly. The Sons of the Harpys always had them dropping like flies!
The Unsullied are great in open battles where they can use a Phalanx formation. The sons of the Harpys led a Guerilla war for which they aren’t suited at all.
“Jaime could beat hermione in a fight” the image of jaime decking hermione with a golden hand is so damn funny
I never heard of game of thrones before the show so even though they completely ruined the ending I'm glad they did the show. But what I think it was one of the greatest shows I've ever seen at least for the first 6 seasons, by the last one it became the most horrible ending I've ever seen by far. Now I want to read the books to know more about the story. I do think Oberyn has to be on the list considering how easy he managed to defeat the Mountain before he let his pity and rage ruin him.
I think, if Drogo had seen how an armoured man fight and pick a blunt weapon like a mace to crush armour or a good short sword or a dagger to cut through the weak points of armour, he could've beaten every one of them except for Arthur Dayne. Huge strength and very agile. Armoured men of Westeros with their heavy ass weapons wouldn't catch and blow a single hit on Drogo. Just like the Mountain couldn't catch Oberyn Martell until Oberyn let his guard off.
Arthur Dayne also seemed to be very agile himself so Drogo's agility wouldn't be an advantage.
Absolutely no chance of drogo beating anyone in the top 5
I personally would've put Oberyn toward the top. Regardless of his emotions getting him killed, he effortlessly defeated the mountain.
Not effortless. He played the Mountain, fought in a way that could only work in a honorable duel, and cheated by poisoning his blade. And he still died.
@Lucas Victer When I think honor, I think the mountain. Spears have the range and speed advantage over greatswords and the mountain had no armor. He'd lose that fight regardless of the circumstances. The only reason Oberyn died was because he let his emotions get the better of him and the mountain pretended to be dead to deceive his opponent into getting close (not very honorable).
@Crimsonfang i did not say that the mountain was honorable. But it was a lawful duel, wich means that no one could intervine. That's why Oberyn fought with less armour, to get lighter and faster. He could strike and move away. He knew that in a fair fight he would die. Even in a premeditated scenario he died..
@Lucas Victer I'm not tracking your logic. How is a 1v1 unfair , but other people intervening is a fair fight? Oberyn had the speed, range, and skill advantage. There's no scenario where he loses that fight even if they had just happened upon each other in an open field. You're not making any argument that explains how the mountain would win. He literally cannot connect a strike against Oberyn - a fact that was definitively established in the duel. Oberyn is the superior fighter in every sense of the word.
@Crimsonfang I did not said that people intervining was honrable.
What i'm saying is that Oberyn fought in ideal conditions and died. In the battle field or without preparing he would die quicker.
He would not be as quicker in armor, he would not have as much mobility and space.
Some honorable mentions that should be on the Top 10
- Oberyn Martel was really dangerous with his agility combat skills and venemous weapons. I just lost against the Mountain because of it's proud.
- Daemon Targaryen was also a snake at battle he was also very intelligent and sneaky at combat.
- Criston Cole was pure warrior. I think I could beat in a good day the top3 listed.
he lost to mauntain when he lost spear if it was gladiator arena
Ser Barriston killed 14 men at 60+ saving Grey worm. Lightly armored and old he ripped through the men that ripped through the men of the most feared army.
Anyone else noticed it said Arthur beats Selby specifically with Dawn? I think that implies they are on par and Selby would likely win if they both had standard swords
I absolutely love that he included Ser Pounce ❤️
Great list. I would have the Red Viper in the top ten though. I know, I know, the Mountain did kill him. But it was his arrogance that got him killed. The fact that he was clearly superior to Gregor shows that he should be on this list IMO. Other than that? I can't really argue with your rankings too much. I strongly...STRONGLY agree with your top two.
Oberyn should have been on the list. He basically defeated the mountain but it was his desire for vengeance that got him killed. Also Ned should at least have been an honorable mention since he was leader of many battles as well.
"the only time we see Oberyn fight" we actually see him dismantle and humiliate one of the most feared warriors in Westeros. He basically made the Mountain his bitch, just with a spear and a buckler.
Meanwhile, we mainly see Gregor shred random nobodies, and most of them shit themselves just at the sight of him regardless.
Against competent opponents of great skill -like his bro or Oberyn- that don't get intimidated, he can barely hold his own.
Wow. Great point.
Oberyn won the fight of skills but lost his life because of emotions
@Priyanshu Baderia true, and because The Mountain That Rides is an absolute fucking tank that was somehow still able to fight.
Don't shit on Gregor even jaime isn't sure he could beat him
Tbh oberyn was planning on killing the mountain for 15 years he even used a special weapon to counter him
I love this list. I think Ned deserved honorable mention for surviving the fight with Dayne. Also because he held his own with Jaime and the fight was interrupted before it could conclude.
Ned never fought against Jaime and about the fight with Dayne we only know this: "They called him the Sword of the Morning, and he would have killed me but for Howland Reed."
@Lord Mathis Rowan he did fight jaime in season 1 - dont spread fake news
He would have lost to arthur dayne, yes, but he survived that long against the best fighter in westeros. Thats an accomplishment on its own
Like in the video, arhur dayne could kill 5 kingsguard with his left hand while taking a piss with his right hand - the fact that ned didnt die instantly means something
@Antoine
in Season 1....... has nothing to do with this video. Ned and Jaime never fought and what exactly happened at the Tower of Joy is not known
this is about the books!
@Lord Mathis Rowan in the books ned literally says he would of died if reed wasn't there
@kckillakrack I have that quote literally in my first comment...
but what exactly happened is not known
I'd kick Oberyn directly into the top three. Even Jaime is absolutely shocked and encouraged (he wants Tyrion to win his trial by combat, obviously) by Oberyn's absurd speed and skill and on top of that Oberyn regularly poisons his weapons. He's faster than nearly anyone, flexible and dexterous, excellent at weaving between his opponents' attacks and he straight-up cheats if he feels that he needs to. He's an absolute monster who can meet opponents on even terrain or simply negate their advantages when necessary. Fine, he only has one fight which he won before he managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but every word the GRRM wrote about him and his depiction in the show point to him being a terrifying beast of a warrior and a master assassin besides. I actually figured him for your #2 behind Arthur Dayne.
Horrible take, but he should be in the top 25 for sure.
Thanks for this, it's good! But I do think you did Oberyn a little dirty here. :) He was clearly a superior fighter to The Mountain, and that would have been a relatively straightforward victory for him, except that he didn't finish him off after he defeated him. That fight was very personal for Oberyn, but in most other fights that wouldn't come into play. I'd put Oberyn in the top 5. Also, no Rhaegar?
But it was so fcking dumb of him to not finish off the mountain while he had the chance
Ned Stark I feel like deserves an honorable mention. Maybe even Jon Snow. Ned holds his own against Arthur Dane and Jamie Lannister and fought along side Robert in the rebellion.
Thoros should get a mention, he won a melee or two. And don’t overlook Jon Snow
A TV show of Robert's Rebellion would be amazing.
Imagine the storylines: a young, cocky Jamie Lannister, falling for his sister and all the guilt that would bring - offset by his burgeoning skill. A young Robert - played by the actor who portrayed Gendry - bearded and buffed up. A young Ned Stark, with all the ideals, trying to steer Robert right. All the side characters, fleshed out, Arthur Dayne, Barristan Selmy, the Mad King's descent. That would have been the story to make - familiar characters, but its own story.
Minus the actor who played Gendry though,
much prefer new casting. Aside from that, totally FIRE idea.
@SAGE XX The actor who played a young Ned Stark was great.
robert had a clean shave when young. He only grew a beard to hide his double chin once he got fat
Prime Bobby B needs Henry Cavill
@Jaeger Fair. I never read the books. Good shout.
Instead we got more Targaryen crap. Yawn.
Oberyn dominated The Mountain. He didn’t die because The mountain was better. He died because he let his guard down after chopping him down like a straw man.
Definitely top 5
We need a part 2 to this video that’s longer. I must’ve watched this over 50 times throughout the year, it’s so good.
I'm happily surprised by Loras Tyrrell being on the podium. He's extremely young so that's impressive.
Very late I know I know but I think the Greatjon is one of the most underrated fighters in Westeros. In preparation for the killing at the red wedding 3 Freys are tasked with making him insanely drunk and even after drinking more than all of them 8 dudes are needed to subdue him (one of which he kills and then proceeds to wound 3 others)
George RR said without dawn Dayne and Barristan could go either way so there's no definitive answer. They are tied for the best swordsman when they were both alive as stated by George RR himself in a interview. Dayne only wins if he has dawn but without it they are equal.
For people wondering why isn't jon snow mentioned its because this is based on the books, the show kinda make jon as the most op warrior (for fan service maybe) while in the books jon is still a young fighter that has potential but would get destroyed by any experienced fighter
That makes sense. I did expect an honorable mention for Ned. He might have taken Jaime in a straight fight outside of Baelish's brothel. But I've only read the first novel, so I'm not sure if there are any weaknesses revealed about Ned later on.
You could’ve just said “Mance Rayder claps Jon’s cheeks in book 5”
@Martin Luther Bling Ned against Jaime? I will tell you the answer but with a SPOILERS ALERT, so this is your chance to ignore this message.
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He is still better then Loras Tyrell in my opinion
Yeah, show Jon Snow is definitely a top tier fighter but in the books he's just a promising young lad.
Brienne is an agressively above average tourney fighter, because men tend to underestimate her and go all out fast, she expects them to do this, bides her time and dominates them when they get tired, this is why she beat Loras in their melee fight even tho Loras is by far a better fighter. Her real fights: Won against untrained men who underestimated her (with a valyrian steel sword btw) won against weakened, shackled Jaime Lannister and that's it! Then got her ass handed to her by Biter.
She's remarkable for a woman, one of a kind probably, the only other women as capable as she is being Asha and probably Alysanne Mormont. But she's not a top ten fighter, damn Asha can woop her ass in a 1v1 IMO.
I’d love to have a list of who and how you’d rank the top 10 or 5 schemers in asoiaf. Obviously Cersei thinks she’s brilliant but isn’t and as far as the tv show goes Tyrion thinks he is but isn’t. So I’d be curious what you’d think for the book series as we have it now
Littlefinger would be my number 1 for sure.
I feel like Jaime should have had a special gantlet for his right hand. A blade attached with some armor up to the elbow. He could still wield another sword with his left hand but at least his right hand would be useful in battle
I'd put Oberyn before the Hound and shift Victarion out. He is clearly the superior fighter to the Mountain and I think the two brothers are very close to equal
This is such a good video concept. You should do top 10 commanders/generals next!
Hell yeah I want to see that
Yea. We want more top10.
Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!
If Tarly is not in top 3 we riot
Tywin top 1
It feels odd that it’s such a big deal that Robert beat Rhaegar, but Rhaegar never even appears in the honourable mentions. Wasn’t he known as a great swordsman in his own right?
I think seeing Arthur Dayne “win” a 1v4 is solid enough evidence
Maybe the show makes him out as better than the books, as I never read the books, but I would argue Ned Stark at least belongs in the honorable mentions if his portrayal in the show is accurate. He almost beat Jaime when he was out of his prime and had a bad leg. He held his own against Arthur Dayne, even though he did lose. He’s often talked about as one of the most respected swordsman during season 1.
Like I said, maybe the books don’t portray him as that strong, but if they do, he should be on the list.
they dont :(
Ned fought evenly with Jamie, at arguably Jamie's peak. Up until now Jamie was working under the impression that Ned had defeated Arthur, so he would have been taking the fight very serious. Ned doesn't deserve to be at the top but at least deserved HM, if not 7-10 ranking.
Ned and Jaime never fought, this is about the books
Something worth mentioning, the Hound unhorsed Jaime at the tourney of the hand. Some additional Honorable mentions that were left out, Lyn Corbray, Balon Swann, Gerold Hightower the white bull, Qhorin Halfhand, Prince Rheagar.
The biggest miss of all? Ser Twenty of House Goodmen. He could've kill Arthur Dayne, Baristan, and Jaime all with just his left hand.
Lmaooo
The only feat from Rhaegar we know of is winning a tournament and the only real battle we have any account of from him is the one he was killed.
I think Rhaegar is more hype than facts.
Ser Twenty of house Goodmen HAHAHAHAHAHA i almost forgot about that!!!!
@Ícaro Corrêa Rhaegar liked playing music he wasn't built for killing
Rhaegar was good at jousting not fighting
Ser Pounce didn't lose to Lady Whiskers... he lived up to his knightly vows by protecting her, in the act of giving her the mouse to eat! 😂
Was surprised to see Baratheon that low on the list, then with every new member i found myself saying “oh yes, ofc, he was way better”. Great list.
I remember Ser Barristan described as “one man army” in some occasion, can remember if that’s true or was my own conclusion.
Strange that you never mentioned Stannis in honorable mentions, his performance at black water was legendary
I think this is more based on books than the show. Book Stannis isn't really a front line fighter, he hangs back and directs the battle, he's a brilliant battle commander. His fighting at the Blackwater was added in the show
Agree with you
Doesn't Jaime in chapter 21 of ASoS consider the White Bull Gerold Hightower as still being better than himself? A young Gerold at least.
Greatjon was also able to fight off multiple men whilst drunk (the only way the Freys could have been captured him was if he was) during the red wedding. Hell, I’d say he could beat Garlan.
Oberyn died because he got carried away. His performance in that fight was objectively outstanding. For me, he is easily in top 5.
That's only in the show, in the books he dies because the Mountain breaks his spear and so he's forced to attempt to kill him with his own greatsword, and thus has to get in closer, which the Mountain takes advantage of. If Oberyn had any fault in that, it was maybe in underestimating his opponent's second wind
This is the way
part of being a great warrior is not getting carried away though lol
I thought he let himself be killed to start the war.
I still remember throwing the book when I read that scene. Had to read it three times to be sure.
I think at one point in the 3rd book Jaime mentions that Robert at his prime was stronger than him at his prime.
The sword skill by Arthur Dayne in that scene from season 6 was probably the best sword display I’ve ever seen on screen.
Pff wasn't that special by any stretch
That scene was dumb as fuck. They didn't even give him Dawn. You know....the weapon he gets his title from?
Troy and John Wick 3 both have great sword fight scenes. Far better than the sword fighting in Game Of Thrones.
It was trash, cartoonish at best
What about Ned Stark? He seemingly holds his own fairly well against Jaime in the show. Jaime praises his skill and even punches the Lannister soldier who ends up spoiling the fight by stabbing Ned from behind. That doesn't seem like the soft of thing a man like Jaime would do, had Ned's skill not warranted it.
nothing of that has anything to do with this video
this is about the books
I'd honestly put Barristan over Arthur Dayne by virtue that he objectively has more impressive feats whereas Arthur Dayne's accomplishments are more anecdotal. Also, Oberyn could definitely have replaced Brianne or Victarion.
I want a list of the most powerful individuals (not including political or military power, but stuff like magic, assassin tricks, special weapons/armor/shields, etc)
I'm almost certain that it's mentioned that Oberyn has beaten both Tyrells in tourneys. He's also been to several fighting pits in Essos and him still breathing before the Mountain means he's won all of them. It could be argued that based on pure skill demonstrated against Gregor, he absolutely out classed the mountain and his demise had more to do with bad luck and circumstance. Hell, he by all means killed the mountain which is why Qybern had to reanimate Gregor in the first place. And details of his genius and reputation as a warrior are not just expressed through his own skills, but also that of his offspring and sell swordsmen who owe all there skills to his training. The top 3 I agree, but Oberyn should of been number 4 and the fact he's not even on here was really disappointing.
Agreed. Maybe even higher 👀
Oberyn clearly deserved to make top 10. When we had only 3 spots left, but neither Jaime, Barristan, Dayne or Oberyn were mentioned, i got a little bit confused.
Ákos Szilágyi yeah I figured Arthur Dayne wasn’t making the list. We know more about Oberyn than Arthur.
@Octavia Blackthorn And if Dayne counts, then the rest of Aerys's Kingsguard should aswell, with the White Bull and the rest. At least he would definitely take a spot too, but probably others aswell.
Oberyn fights super dirty though. While poison and trickeries are legitimate tactics in fights, this list seems to only consider pure swordsmanship.
I would say this top ten is accurate, but it doesn't mean Number 10 would easily lose to Number 1. I like to think it actually means "If you're not in this top 10, you don't stand a chance against any of the ones who are" and if you are going against Sandor, you also get to hear "You're shit at dying, you know that?" before everything turns black.
How dare you not include Syrio Forel, The First Sword of Braavos? He lived in Kings Landing, damn it
Well made video. I would have ranked the Red Viper higher up the list though. If he could have just finished the job before starting his end-zone celebration, he would definitely have been higher
Lord eddard stark always my greatest warrior he fights with Arthur dayne knowing that he won't win but he didn't run and his luck helps him always my motivation 🥺🥺🥺🥺