TC Electronic THUNDERSTORM (Flanger) - in depth review
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- čas přidán 2. 12. 2016
- There are definitely some options in this price range for Flangers, but the TC stands out with its build quality and solid features. The sped knob could be more linear, but other than that, it is a winner.
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Cinders Overdrive
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Skysurfer Reverb
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I have the Thunderstorm and it is superb. And that's even before we factor in the low price.
I really love the settings at 6:50
😂😭
One of the best reviews from the standpoint of being an independent voice.
I try to explain what's technically going on in a flanger. If someone reads this and knows better, please correct me.
The flanger creates a copy of Your signal and adds it to Your dry signal with a certain delay. So what's coming out of the flanger ist what is going into it plus a delayed copy of that input. The flanger then changes the delaytime of that added signal over time. And here ist what the knobs do:
FEEDBACK: The amplitude (loudness) of the added signal.
RATE: The frequency of the altering of delay time.
MANUAL: The average or minimal delay time. Witch one is not clear, but also not important because we can not see the values but only hear what comes out.
DEPTH: The amplitude of the delay time that changes over time. (How far the delay time does go up and down before returning.)
I'm sorry for my poor English. I hope this helps someone to get less confused about flangers.
Feedback: taking the signal from the flanger and feeding it back into itself. the knob controls the amount of signal that is fed back into the flanger. This emphasizes the flange sound.
Hello Henning, I love Your demos and Your face expressions, You are the the best!!! Thank You!!!
Thanks for the honest reviews!
I was looking for that jet sweep sound from a flanger, I definitely hear it at around 12:40
wow, that's one of the best looking studios I've ever seen.
Wholly f!!! Best music room ever !!!
would there be any low end loss using a bass with this pedal? the one I have now thins out when I turn it on
Hi ^-^^ ths for this demo. For you, the classic flanger harley benton ( with karateka skin) or this thunderstrom? better choice for you ine this small price.
Good to have a reserve on the current draw rating. Good move by TC.
Hello Henning, great video. Are you planning on reviewing the new line of Harley Bentons? I.e the DG and HM tributes?
Would love to hear how it sounds on ACE Rocket ride. its what I have always set my standard at. (My FL9 quit working so this is the close temp replacement)
I lost it at 6:50 lmao XD XD
Also Thank you for this video!
HELLO, MR HENNING! Dont cheat, this turtle was here last time ;P
how does this compare to the Vortex? Any opinions? Both are TC Electronic.
Where can you put the 9v battery in? Or cant i
6:51 is so true! finally someone can explain it clearly!
Maaaaan....I should report you for that😝😜🤪
You may have just saved me some time and money. I wanted this for the occasional Van Halen riff, but like in Unchained, it’s a matter of timing, to actuate the flanger just for that quick, three note intermittent riff. But, your note that the footswitch triggers the effect upon *release* is a significant issue.
damn that guitar is gorgeous!!
good review
great job H! Have a great weekend!~!!!
When you get done with this series you should build some sample boards so you can hear what they should like in line with each other
exactly. i try to find out this or the EHX mistress wich costs the triple of this but looks not very different, except that has a chorus control in.
Crees qué sea mejor que el Classic Flanger de Joyo?
A/DA: PBF Flanger speed knob does the same thing near the end
If I had to choose just one of all modulation pedals from that vintage tank series, I think I would choose that Thunderstorm. Second option would be the Afterglow, third the Blood Moon and fourth the Tailspin. (but maybe because for Blood Moon and Tailspin I already have that Rotovibe, that is sort of similar to a phaser and a vibrato, two in one switchable). TC Electronic just didn't cover tremolo this time. (maybe one day... collections like that can grow)
For cheaper budget reality, I keep an eye on that Joyo Flanger (you have made a very good video about that some time ago).
The Joyo would be an option to mod, adding an expression pedal to control speed rate (like a moog flanger).
That Thunderstorm from TC Electronic would be something to have just the way it is. I would feel pity about it and wouldn't be able to modify it (because it's so nice that I wouldn't want to wreck it's tank enclosure... I would just carefully open to see what's inside and then re-assemble it back to its original form. nerd curiosities).
Cheers!!!
Luke
looks like it's modeled after boss bf-2 in my opinion. sound isn't bad. the rate knob's sweep isn't the best but still usable. I personally use flanging effect with slow rate anyway so I wouldn't mind the rate knob at all (ALSO, for its price, i think the pedal's overall functionality is a great deal). for high quality flanging madness, go for strymon or hartman.
Can a simple potentiometer to linear fix the rate ? or am I completely talking out my ying yang ?
Any idea how this compares to the TC Vortex Flanger? I had one but never felt it had the "liquid" analog kind of sweep I was looking for. Perhaps a simpler analog device is better? I really just want Andy Summers-type sounds in a small footprint.
If you're looking for the Summers sound, you might want to check out Electric Mistress knock-offs (or an Electric Mistress--although there's a lot of opinions on how new EHX Electric Mistresses compare to older versions); it was the pedal he used for flange and chorus sounds. Mooer's ELady (or Elec Lady) is only the most well-known of many Chinese takes on the Electric Mistress in a mini pedal form; if you look around, there are a lot of them.
Thanks I'm considering the e-lady too! I was really just waiting to hear a bit more of the Thunderstorm before pulling the trigger. Honestly it's an effect I will rarely use, but if I can't get a tone I like it will NEVER be used.
The Modtone mini pie shaped jobbie is the best of the cheap Flangers ...thr Mooer will get you by OK. They make over 20 re-brands of it . Right now you can get it with the Rowin label for $23.00 USD. on Ali Express.
I agree 100%. The drive and distortion are not very good, the delay and reverb are passable, but the modulation pedals are excellent for $70.
I will say though, that the digital delay pedal is misunderstood. You guitar players want to Ron Popeal everything, “set it and forget it”. That thing, if one starts to really jerk the knobs around with lost of feedback on, it will go absolutely crazy in all sorts of interesting ways. More of a sound design pedal IMO, and less practical that it does that....but still cool.
Also, WTF with the mono Dimension pedal???? Even the Behringer version was stereo. I would buy that one now of it had a stereo option.
Uli told us syntheads he is recreating the Juno-60 chorus. Great, but when he showed it to us all, it was mono out only. That is not the Juno chorus, then. I don’t always like stereo modulation, but usually I do.
Mate have you heard the cinders? That thing sounds exactly like a blues driver.
My favorite flanger is the old EHX Electric Mistress unit I used back in the 80's. Because of the large footprint and AC power, I don't want to buy a vintage EHX EM. I can't tell whether his unit can get there or not because the demo is doesn't go for the settings I'm after. The depth and feedback settings are set too high throughout this demo, both clean and distorted amp tones. Most of the sounds demo'd I'd never use. Oh well, I love TC Electronic pedals. Maybe the Vortex would be a better choice?
Mooer or tc
Hi, if you compare this flanger with the Harley Benton/Joyo Classic Flanger (29 Euro's), then which one would you prefer?
I would go for the HB
Thanks for your quick and honest answer :-)
11:02 kinda soungarden Black Hole Sun vibe
13:00 nice riff!
Ein analoger Flanger mit Manual (Delay!)-Regler? Ist doch super. Soviele gibt es doch da gar nicht. Mir fällt da nur die Mutter aller Flanger (Electric Mistress Deluxe) ein. Aber halt, auch die hatte nur 3 Regler. Und trotzdem flangt sie gewaltig. Ein richtiger Flanger braucht aber 4 Regler. Ich werde diesen TC/Behringer Flanger auf jeden Fall mal testen, weil ich gar nicht soviele Alternativen kenne (Analog, 4 Regler?).
Nochmal zur Funktion des Manual Reglers: der müsste doch bei extremer Einstellung, ohne Rate und Depth, ein hörbares Delay erzeugen. Mit Feedback ergibt das dann ein Delay mit Feedback. Und Rate und Depth modulieren dann die Delay-Zeit, die der Manual-Regler vorgibt. Ist das so?
So we keep hearing about build quality... I suggest that Henning take the whole lot of them, hook them up, and drive a car over them while he plays his prototype.! Will the tremolo tremble under the weight? Will the drives be driven to destruction? Will the chorus sing with pain? Now there's a video only EytschPi42 would do...
Wasn’t it the parent company of tc that bought beringer ?
no, Behringer/Music Tribe bought TC
how would you rate it 1 thru 10?
Christian Sverchek a 7.9
8 is too close to 10, the same way a 2 is too close to a 0.
But its a pretty damn good flanger, and it excels at slower rates
Mmm.... Why tc electronic fall low?
MXR Flanger Manual says: then use the Manual knob to physically place the effect anywhere along the frequency spectrum!
Sounds as good as a Boss BF-2 to me.
IDK, man... I've had one of these for a while now and after listening to some BF-2 demos I think I'm gonna have to trade mine in and go with the Boss one...
You should try turning all the knobs down
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Well for me it works pretty well. I had a Boss one years ago it was around 30 more euro than this one, but they basically do the same thing. I do not recommend smoking them though and that was funny :)))))))))))))))
At £26 on Amazon uk, do we have any reason to complain?
hi could you send me the link ?
@@TheGael128 Sorry the price has gone up well beyond the cost of inflation, so it's either an amazing pedal.... or the accountants realised that they could charge more.
Also flangers really work well in a mix when used sparingly. Time the depth and rate to the tempo of a song and they add subtle movement and variation, also space and stereo spread, great for double tracking, or fake double tracking guitars.
Its not always about the extremes of what a pedal can do, it is often more to do with the subtle changes it can introduce.
@@jemwand2530 Haha it's okay i got it for 40 dollars so i would say i was lucky
Really? On my old BOSS BF2 the manual is the "peak" in the wave so to speak, so less manual gives the peak earlier, more manual gives it later.
Oh wait you just said that :P
You have to turn rate off to use manual....it's like the mxr flanger
Manual means turn sweep off and manually put it where you want it
Do you think it's better than Joyo's Classic Flanger?
My joyo was noisy I sold it.
Grapel haze!
6:51
10:30
It doesn't sound like it's really affecting the signal at all. To my ear, it sounds like a dry/wet sound where the two are very easily distinguishable. Not blended at all. There's the guitar signal, and a bunch of swirly crap on top.
God damnit... It sound Ace with dirt on it
they use rubles! :)
11:43
they are built in the udssr 🤣
8:15
Silly man, everybody knows us brits use old English groats. They’re made out of dung. I seen the thunderstorm retailing at about three groats which is of equivalent value to one small pig.
All we want to know if it will easily do EVH flange without much set up time? anything else is just another wobbly tone disrruptor. When is TC gonna wake up from its commercial naivete?
Also, where is Tore and who is this guy? NICE guitar BTW!
Nice.
Ibanez flanger 's , are better .super , yellow color classic looks, purple's color old larger pedals , airplane of sounds....Best prices...of yesterday's
shame on tc electronics for this sold out, damage done
A: the Behringer pedals never sounded bad
B: they ditched the plastic enclosure
C: Tore himself, had his engineering team tweak all designs to improve the sound
D: for the price, they ain’t bad at all
Most cheap analog pedals are the new “mini style” pedals which I don’t really care for. Sometimes the footprint is so small, that if you’re not using fresh velcro, they keep coming loose on your board because the contact service is so small.
I prefer analog for modulation almost always, but frankly many analog modulation pedals that are simple like these cost significantly more, and don’t really sound all that much better, or better at all. Still waiting patiently for the 3rd Dimension to be available for purchase.....they keep pushing it back.
Oh dear, very disappointing pedal. Plenty of weird noises but little else, sadly, judging by this demo.