The ECONOMY In EU5 Is Going To Be INSANE
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- čas přidán 19. 04. 2024
- In this video titled The ECONOMY In EU5 Is Going To Be INSANE I discuss the latest Dev Diaries posted on the PDX forums titled Tinto Talks, about the upcoming Paradox Interactive Project Caesar, that by now we all know is about Europa Universalis: V.
Dev Diaries:
Tinto Talks 7: forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...
Tinto Talks 8: forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...
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Its very interesting, please continue this kind of videos
I miss her
@@rainbowstalin594 miss who?
Yesss no loon , i really like take no loan in eu4
Farming content on every little scrap of information is boring. Way better smaller eu4 channels now.
Fun Fact: Peruzzi is actually the ancestors of who would become the Medici family in Florence, and they did run a company with Peruzzi as its name
They were not ancestors, they were the predecessors. They were competitors to the Medicis before the Medici took power, but interestingly one of their more distant memebers later formed The Planters Peanuts company (Planters Nut & Chocolate Company)
Angelo peruzzi?
"What kind of loans are those?!"
Normal ones, Hawk, normal ones.
It can get worse, real live
Quote: "The Central Bank of Turkey unexpectedly raised its benchmark interest rate by 500bps to 50% in its March meeting and signaled it will continue to tighten policy should the inflation outlook deteriorate further."
In northern europe we are used to loans in 5% or less interest. Anything above that is considered to be times of crisis or loan shark territory
6:30 I think it's more like the court mechanic in CK3, where a ruler who is to be held in high prestige is expected to provide certain amounts of luxury food to their guests, or have luxury paintings and items on display. After all, if your duke or count has more wealth on display than a king, then maybe the Duke should be running the kingdom.
Reminds me of a funny story. Louis the XIVth's treasurer learned that Louis was suspicious of him and his wealth, so he decided to throw a massive party out of his own funds and dedicate it entirely to praising and glorifying the king. It had the opposite effect, as the king was flabbergasted that he would flex his wealth and power like that, and he was soon fired and imprisoned.
yeah he interpreted it wrong imo
@@beepbop6542another fun story from France, during the reign of Louis XVI when the government was in large amounts of debt a new minister of finance decided the best way to secure new loans was to purposefully spend more on luxury goods for the royal family with the idea that loaners would see that as proof that the French finances were fine and give loans at lower rates, and it did work for a little while but with the government unable to establish any new taxes due to resistance from the Parlements they eventually had to admit that France was broke and call up the estates general, which is where the French revolution starts.
i agree, one of the reasons henry VI (england's 0 0 0 in eu4) fell out of favour was because he was too generous and willing to live frugally
“Last thing you can impact with a slider is your stability”
EU3 is BACK
god i love the very concept of eu3's billion sliders
Eu5 needs a lot of bells and whistles to be worth it conpared to eu4. Fingere crossed they put that effort in
Fingere crossed indeed.
I dont trust paradox anymore.
Isn't it the whole design goal of eu5 to be so elegant and cohesive with its design that it doesn't need tons of board gamey bells and whistles attached?
true if vicky 3 is any example its going to be garbage
As someone who likes eu3 more than eu4
Just having sliders in eu5 is already enough for me to be better than eu4
Eu4 is old game
6:43 I think it's actually the opposite. Cost of the court probably represents the money you spend on stuff like the royal residence, hosting banquets for guests/foreign diplomats and other such things that increase your legitimacy as king.
agreed. and culture probably meant money spend on hiring court painter, royal architecture, and similar stuff that make your kingdom more prestigious. thus it's effect on prestige. it'd be nice if high prestige would mean more diplomatic reputation and higher population happiness (while lower prestige would mean the opposite).
Step 1: borrow all the money from the estates
Step 2: kick out all the estates
Well then you don't have a country...
@@jodinha4225 I thought it would be like ck2 where you can borrow money from Jews then kick them out of the country instead of paying them
@@jodinha4225 I thought it would be like ck2 where you can borrow from a group of people then kick them out if the country instead of paying
This was the infinite money hack medieval rulers had with jewish people
@@johnnygreenface4195 that’s what I tried to say but my comment get deleted when I say the j word and then all my comments for the day there after
Yes, Banca dei Bardi, Florentine family and bank, connected with the Medici family!
Great video
Looking forward to the graphic of a horses head in the bed when you default on the 10% loan.
You disliked pops so much before they showed how it works, and if they did it like in Stelaris, i would have disliked it too. But like this, with actual numbers and people doing work and getting recruited as soldiers, i really like that. Also means, burning your man power for wars will have an actual impact on your economy. And having a strong economy with plenty of food will have an impact on your man population and man power, hopefully.
I once wrote a paper on the history of accounting, specifically Renaissance accounting in Italy, and suddenly am getting flashbacks.
inb4 Aragon peasant republic with 100% peasant population
Wait this is very Vic 2 like where you can tax several different classes of people. The max amount of tax related to the policy is also similar to the ideology system. I'm guessing the culture system could also mimic the innovation system?
Edit: Also as an Indonesian, that Java map was lit
As someone who likes to role-play as big, important countries (France, Ottos etc.) I´m loving everything that´s been shown so far, but I am starting to worry a little bit about (ironically) how playing a small nation can in any way be fun with how many exploits are going to be slammed shut. No more mana means no easy quick way to grow tall, pops mean there´s a hard limit on how many units you can have and risks ruining your game if what little military force you do have is wiped out, and so on.
Anyone else starting to wonder/worry about this too?
I don’t think you have to worry too much, as it seems there are a lot more mechanics to limit blobbing with the control system. Small nations won’t really have to worry about control. We’ll have to wait and see how warfare works first to make the final judgment tho
Probably diplomacy will play much bigger role. Maybe it would be worth it to become someone's vassal, maybe it will be possible to wage wars as a vassal and so on.
its gonna suck, we all know it
@@eyzmin "we" meaning you.
Perhaps it will make diplomacy and the use of mercenaries far more important. Perhaps becoming a vassal will be more beneficial up until you feel powerful enough to regain your autonomy. I actually used this strategy by accident during an ardabil/persia run. QQ force vassalized me (almost restarted) but then declared war on ajam and helped return my cores. Then I had the mamluks free me while taking even more land.
12:00 Something I really like about this screenshot is that it's super zoomed in, yet the color isn't transparent :)
The income in this game honestly looks amazing, and i can't wait for eu5 to be released.
Anyway, sicily better be named sicily and not Trinacria
I like the direction they are going with eu5, however it still has other parts to think about and needs to deliver as a whole.
9 views in 2 minutes
As the dataset is very small, I cannot yet determine whether Red Hawk has truly fallen off
Will you be uploading guids for eu4 been a minute since you did
Thank you so much for these. Im too lazy to read
I hope EU5 make tiny nations fun to play by adding more stuff to do without necessarily expanding your territory. for example, by allowing diplomatic actions that goad 2 nations to war against each other. adding shadow regiments that could walk every territory (and thus reveal FoW) would be nice too with the drawback of immedieately melt if met with regular regiments (and of course diplomatic reputation penalty should your shadow regiments melt). oh, make said shadow regiments capable of stealing monarch points would be good too.
basically, I want more stuff to do as a tiny nations. possibly gaining great power status without necessarily expanding my territory.
8:51 the red hawk becomes freddy fazbear???
My CPU is already begging for mercy
I just want this game to run fast on my old pc...
Complexicity could translate into fun potentially
I like what I'm seeing already, but knowing that I've already spent around $500 on EUIV and over 10 years, it feels like aww man I got to start that all over again....
If we can change the goods produced in a province then I i will be happy.
hype
I love the idea of earning money off of other countries paying you interest from loans you give them. Playing as a small state revolved around banking (like Switzerland or smth) sounds awesome.
So if a powerful enemy dominates a market I guess you can scorch earth their food provinces to cripple them?
That was the entire purpose of scroch earthed tactics IRL so I'm glad that ACTUALLY exists now. I feel like it's going to be *devastating*
@jodinha4225 i hope the AI can use these new features and make cohesive strategies with them, like scorching a rival country so that after a war between you and them ends the rival has a harder time recovering, like you all said.
21:10 no... these are RGOs... from vic 2
I'm worried EU5 is gonna turn out like imperetor and CK3 where every country feels the same and has no unique mission tree to make them feel special
In eu3 and 4 all countries are the same. In Eu2 they fell different. But consumers from Europe/Asia hates the fact that most countries are totally irrelevant, so they dumbed down the game calling that before and it was "railroaded in benefit of Portugal, Spain, France and England".
Looks like we are back to Eu3
the fact that armys are in 100s and not 1000s also means that it will be funny how they show that later in the game with bigger armies
This is starting to feel like too much micro.
Not gonna lie I hate that UI.
Welcome to the modern paradox games, old man
Kind of early to say that, for example certain aspects of the Stellaris UI are kind of ugly if you zoom in but they look better when seen in the screen as a whole
It's WIP they've been extremely clear on that
project caesar? isnt it more likely to be imperator 2?
it starts in 1337
so no.
its either eu5 or entirely new ip
This might actually make colonization actually fun
Didn't you cover 7# like a week ago ?
Im A ballSack
Daddy Johan pls
Kendal is gone 😞
1:00 That's a portuguese ship, so likely a portuguese colony
Don't you know only the Dutch used windmills... (/s)
Another decade of playing and waiting for new content. God help old me play EUVIII
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I'm still not conviced about the 1337 start date TBH
The economic micro seems interesting though.
Western europe is still essentially the same, much more interesting in the center and east this time around though.
i hope its not like victoria 3
See I'm hoping it is like Vic 3, because that game hits a really good balance where there's a fleshed out economy, but it's still simple enough for a child to understand (which means I can play it drunk lol)
memtball
You're not saying anything new that we didn't see on the website
But that's the point dude, he's giving his opinion on it for the folks that don't want to read the blog post.
I do hope that we can remove the clergy's tax exemption as a christian nation, of course with strong penalties to christian opinions and clergy happiness.
I'm sure you can. The reason it exists in the game is because it was historically a force opposing absolutist monarchs. Look up Catherine the Great's forcing the Church to pay taxes.
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Maybe they are planning on dropping the eurocentric name?
Hope they arent that cooked
@@achaeanmapping4408 well, the name is not really accurate anymore. Has it really been since EU2?
I dont see why they would. It provides brand recognition, and really, a lot of what the game (s) are built on/ focus on was led by Europe, created by Europe, mainly happened in Europe, etc. For example, the Renaissance, the religious wars, colonization, early industrialization, absolutism, etc etc.
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I hope -EU5- Project Caesar isn't so complex that you need an economics degree to understand how to play it.
I mean seeing as how they gutted vicky, It'll probably be to simple
I'm not really sold to EU5 given these diaries. I'm really worried there's too much stuff going on, resulting in too many simulative details that need to be micromanaged, but, in the end, nothing will make enough difference by itself.
On the other hand, micromanaging a lot of small-impact mechanics will make the game tedious.
They made the exact same mistake with Victoria 3, but apparently they didn't learn.
They said you could automate most of these sliders and stuff, and don't tell me that this is too complex because what they showed up until now really isn't
I mean what did you expect? That Paradox makes increasingly basic games? I get that there's a risk the game becomes too complex and thus tedious but from the beggining you should have expected for Paradox to make a more advanced game, otherwise what's the purpose of making a new title? And tbf Victoria 3 is definetly fun if you understand how the game works
@@ap6480 the purpose of making a new title is to overcome old design anche technical flows that prevent further evolutions. For example, the multi-core management that is pretty weak, that limits the complexity of the simulation.
But whatever.
There's a major difference between an advanced game and a pointless game.
An advanced game has a lot of mechanics and every one of them is worth micromanaging: everything you touch makes the difference and "feels" like it.
This is something that, right now, in EU4 is very much achieved correctly: they added 10 years of dlcs and new mechanics and still there's no something that you could easily skip.
We cannot say the same about the other latest PDX games: except of CK3, which has its own very specific flavour, Imperator Rome has been a total failure to the point that they closed the development, and Vic 3 is going in the same direction: patch 1.5 tried to be a game changer, but it failed. The game is still basically an idle game, and steam charts prove that it's not a commercial success.
EU4, a 10 years old game, is played daily 5-7 times more than Vic 3, and it's the same as every other PDX game, CK3, HOI4, Stellaris.
The only game that makes less than Vic 3 is Imperator Rome of course.
This should suggest that this kind of "advanced simulation" is not appreciated by the users.
Wdym they made the same mistake vic 3? Vic 3 is incredibly good...
@@jodinha4225 i actually I don't dislike Vic 3, but market performance say otherwise. It has a very small user base and many complaints. Patch 1.5 talks by itself.
eu5 is looking real promissing. But I have a feeling the game might not be called "Europa Universalis V". Devs have expressed concern with the name of the series in the past, which they feel is goofy, bad for marketing & people finding it, and "eurocentric" (which is a big no-no in the modern day). I wouldn't be surprised if they release the game under a new title, though it would be a shame imo.
By this logic they may as well not release the game at all. This exact time period covers the rise of Europe
@@sebe2255 the game title is absolutely fitting. But you're not dealing with logic here when the tought is a game-company appeasing to 'ideological' demands.
@@ThomasBarth-gr1sz You yourself said that the name is goofy and inadequate for marketing since this isn't an Europe-exclusive game, how are you now claiming out of nowhere that Paradox wants to change the name because of an Ideology? Stop bringing this woke vs whathver the hell the opposite is narrative into everything
Why are we being offended by pdx not wanting to be eurocentric? The vast, overwhelming majority of history doesn't happen in Europe...
@@jodinha4225 Because Eurocentrism is cool
8:52 is that freddy?