EU5 Religions are here and Players are DIVIDED
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Calvinist countries not being able to re-roll because everything is preordained is the funniest mechanic I've seen in a paradox game
what did they mean by "re-roll"?!?!
@@ThomasBarth-gr1sz EU4 battles are determined by daily dice rolls (plus terrain modifers, general skill, army comp and pips, and discipline and moral). It looks like in EU5 Calvinists keep whatever roll they start the battle with instead of re rolling it every new day the battle continues.
@@IslamicGoku thanks for the clarification. I understand it now. But it is a joke, right?
@@ThomasBarth-gr1sz no it isnt, and i love it
Wouldn’t this make Calvinist battles completely RNG? No matter how good your troops are, if they role 0 or 1 the battle is lost?
Think its better, its also much more true to realism, you simply didn't convert a province in a year, like you can in EU4, it took time, building churches, giving benefit, giving benefits that slowly converted the pop over generations. But at the same time, you strictly don't need a missionary.
Problem is then the Humanist path will be blatantly more OP
@@RDA000 it will be probably rebalanced
we shouldnt sacrifice too much gameplay for realism however, a balance has to be reached
@@notlucas6859 realism = balance
@@ipsum1267 heavily disagree. realism = pain a lot of the times
Important things to know is that we are only seeing the majority or very large religions on this map, nothing below like 20% is visible on the map. Also, it is important to remember just how different the religious set up in Asia is in the early 1300s compared to the middle 1400s.
There are also stripes shpwing minorities. Except for some regions they mentioned are not done yet
There are a couple religions like Alawite that should be majorities in some locations that aren't around yet, hope that they wind up getting added as time goes on!
@@ZlewikkTV they wrote they just didnt add most minorities to the map yet its WIP
@@ZlewikkTV yes, but the stripes only show up for big minorities, like how you don't see any stripes for the Jews living in iberia, because they only represent 2% of the population. Therefore there are a lot of religions that definitely are in the game that we just don't see on that map.
@@Barista.Nathan of course, they mentioned Norse already
7:50 yeah, that is true
Eu4 lacks proper multithreading meaning computers can struggle regardless of how good they are
12:49 I certainly enjoy this. Not even the changes themselves, but the developers engaging with their fans, valuning their opinions and aknowlaging that they also want the game to be good is such a good sighn for the game.
It shows that they want to make a game we'll enjoy. This definetly eases a lot of my doubts I had about some of the mechanics like trade.
Can confirm, this dev diary divided me. Now I am 2.
Could also be all the pancakes I been eating not sure
Maybe you should have explained why in your video then.
Going into the replies of the dev diary was kinda painful, idk why everybody is repeating the same questions over and over again (and why the devs are replying to all of them individually)
You need to repeat in order to tell something and from comments I think it is clear to everyone now that filling all isolated places of earth with animism is not people’s favourite
Now im curious how colonianism will worj with that population system
You send people from your country to settle, or take over land and force the natives to work. Not sure how else they could make it, especially considering their clear desire to make the game more realistic
@@tuxtitan780 the natives would probably get their pops reduced by plagues too. and, also, genocide. but who knows how that is going to get handled in "not EU5".
banger again, both video and tinto talks
It would be genuinely great and hilarious if they put out an updated religion map later with a little more accurate African and Southeast Asian religions, and also replace Norse and Baltic Paganism with "Animism" 👏
I think Pavia said in comment section they will be posting more DD on these oncr updated :)
you just have to assume they're in the process of fleshing it out. what i'm hoping is that they finally replace the "fetishist" finally and put in more granular distinctions between each native faith, and hopefully, give them their own mechanics. same in SEA and the rest of the americas.
Myślę że nowy engine naprawi kwestie wydajności bo tak było z krusader kings że trójeczka to już płynie chodzi przez dobie lepszego wsparcia dla wielo rdzeniowych procesorów
I really like the Calvinist modifiers give you a reason to play them. Hope there are more like it
They havent told in the dev diary that quarter of the world is not done yet. It is also weird to see fetishist religion not being placed considering you just fill remaining african continent and add the color from eu4, it didnt feel like WIP, but a intentional removal of fetishism
Thats why a lot of people reacted in comment, so I couldnt blame them, next time devs should add some important expalanations directly under image in order to avoid such things.
I am still very skeptical but I love how things don’t immediately change when clicking a button but it changes dynamically.
Dice rolls are disappointing. I wish they would flesh out the tactic rolls from imperator and hoi more.
I can’t get over how dull the color scheme of the game is. It’s like they put a brown tint over everything
Don't worry, it's not final. The game isn't even announced yet - they have said all UI is placeholder :)
@@ThePedrodude thank you for the comment. I’m really looking forward to the game
They'll probably think of design last, now its core mechanics.
@@genstianyeah it doesn't make sense to work on the design when what you're designing could change another 15 times before it's final.
@@skanderbeg152 Not only that, but in EU4 we've got tons of UI and graphics mods. Should be no problem changing up the look of the game soon after release. If it's the same as EU4 then they shouldn't affect achievements or ironman either.
does anyone know what files i would need to change to get a new mission tree that isnt the boring generic one for certain nations?
i did console command add_core Angevin and released it as a vassal from england cos i dont have the dlc to get it from missions
but angevin without the dlc has a boring generic mission tree... i wanted to maybe give it the french or english/british mission tree
- i tried going into steamapps eu4 common - countries and copy pasted the english mission tree one there and changed the copy
to angevinempire.. but it didnt give me a new mission tree.. then it said my achievements are disabled (dont care) but i deleted the
file and then the game broke so i had to verify integrity.. now my game permanently seems to say achievements disabled even though
i removed the only file i added (would need to reinstall the game???) anyway i dont care that much about achievements... id just
like to have non boring mission trees... if its not possible to do this, please suggest the best mod for mission trees thanks
In Eu4 Shia regions in ottomans are actually sunni but non accepted scholarship: Bektashi. Will it be still same? It could be a good content for game but paradox being paradox whatever.
Who cares about silly muslims?
Even if EU5 was just EU4 with imperator pop mechanics I would be hyped!
do you think the reason they calling it project ceaser is because it's gonna have a different name not EU5 ? like we saw from differents DD there are many mechanics ispired from other pdx games
They name each new game interbally and they use Roman characters for each
all game studios have "codenames" for games in development.
it has to do with legality and what not regarding the name of the game.
sometimes its about secrecy so that the game in development does not get leaked by workers....
"Project Caesar" is either eu5 or new IP entirely.
i mean, it could happen, but i kind of doubt that.
The question I have is: Can I add a country decide if I like heathens etc. Or does the pope etc. decide this
That rework of the Lowlands is sooo fucking good
It's exactly what I was saying, and probably for the first time in a Paradox game, they are actually historically accurate
My issue with it is its now full of forests and Johan said there’s no way to remove those. The issue with the lowlands in all their games is they don’t have a way to show its proper development of claiming the land and clearing the forest.
@@kaisercortex4115 There are still mechanics to do that, in a way dev cost modifiers are just that. Less satisfying than visually changing the map but still something
My PC with 8 GB's of RAM: I'm in danger!
all those nice cool tags and ill still only play england
if china is fully buddhist in eu5 where are daoists and confucius or native gods of china? hope they will add it
Answered in the video :)
There are already at least two animist faiths in Southwest China on the map. You can see two unique colors down there
I wonder how long until a ruler can dedicate themselves to Tu'Er Shen in the Chinese pantheon
@@tylerphuoc2653 that some nice rabbit God :D (just looked it up)
@@sandromdivani9935 Really gotta love the guy and how he totally ships those cut sleeves
Will we be able to create our own faith like in CK3 :o I really need to convert the world to Nudist Feast Enjoyer Canibals
Pretty sure they said noz unless you use mods
6:14 💀
I need to know if the mission trees will be ported over. I do not want to spend another $800 on dlc for nations to get the same content added back over time.
Look at CK3. Yes, you would definitely need to pay for DLC's to have complete experience.
You will need to repurchase all the content, welcome to niche grand strategy genre with little competition.
There will not be mission trees in the game. I think thats a great design choice.
@@kaisercortex4115 i afraid, game will be insipid
There will be mission trees in this game, just not like in eu4. That's all we know now
I hope EU5 comes out in likes 2 years, maybe less depending on how much of the ground work has been done, but I am happy waiting longer if that's what they need to finish the game. It does intruige me quite a bit as is
they are taking their time for sure. It's been in dev since 2020 already and these tinto talks are to get precious feedback from the people
2 of the best religion focused runs i remember were.
1. Reformed France
2. Protestant Poland
Heretical and not based
Man, I just wish Paradox would give us a game with the same content they had in previous games instead of selling a broken smashed up skeleton and slowly selling the same things we used to have and pretending it's new.
I think it just being a WIP is a weak defence. If it’s not to a quality they’re proud of showing it then they shouldn’t show it. There’s no demand for this to come out now, they could release these diaries later. If they’re showing it then all criticism is fair game and WIP shouldn’t be used to deflect any.
It is said clearly in the video when reviewing comment section. They show early stage on purpose so people can leave feedback and later jn dev we will see full version of itsame like with maps. Did you see updates to lowlands based on feedback from people?
This is a major imprvement to other pdx releases where feedback was rarely taken into account
@@ZlewikkTV Then if the point is feedback why shrug of criticism under the guise of it's early in development. Completely counterintuitive. You can't have it both ways.
There is a big difference between empty criticizm and constructive feedback
This looks great, im just really worried about aspirational goals. I did challenge myselfs with a lot of weird one-faiths and one-culture runs in eu4. How could you even describe something like that here ? Onefaith: A world where the majority in every location is mainly the same reliigion world wide ?
I doubt one faith will be possible, there will be just other, a lot of new, crazy challanges to be done. I take it much netter since why do the same thing over and over
I like Buddhism isn't plaguing majority of India like 867 and 1066 ck3, it should been more restricted to only Pala Empire.
Wait... you have hair!
Wait, EU5 will have Nordhausen as a playable state? Oh boy, I'm so on this, it's not even funny anymore.
this looks like a merger between eu4 and ck3
Much more I:R and EU3 on top of eu4
@@ZlewikkTV does make sense now that u said that
Mashallah 😝🤔
This is probably controversial, but I hope world conquests are not possible for EU5.
Bruh.
They should be exceptionally difficult, and you shouldn't be able to keep a world empire together for longer than like a month. TBH there should just be a setting (if it were feasible obviously) that lets you expand a lot like EU4, and the default should be much harder to expand
@@eX1st4132I disagree as many empires untied the majority of the civilized world and lasted hundreds of years.
More modern empires such as the French, British, Spanish, along with the Mongol Empires united large chunks of the world and still lasted centuries.
You see the issue is once an empire gets big in EU4 it’s impossible for it to collapse. There needs to be some way to effectively force an imperial collapse.
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I think the religion changes, estates focus etc sound great but one perspective I'm missing is the thing I think will be the hardest for them to balance. EU is a map game, and with these more passive systems I'm worried it will become more and more of a "menu game" something like Democracy. I want my actions to happen on the map, look at my holdings, interact with the provinces. On the other hand nobody wants to go back to manually assigning estates to provinces. Go ahead with the new systems I think it will be great, but it is a really UX challenge to solve but I think it is huge for the feel of the game
I think you are in minority, there are a lot of people complaining there will be too much to do ;-;
@@ZlewikkTV Perhaps I was unclear. I think that is a separate balance thing. What I'm talking about is just getting to interact with the lovely map. Irregardless of how much "it" is, I'd prefer doing as much of it as possible on the map and not in a menu
Moving troops is the most fun interaction. Sending colonist, merchant are tied to the map so they feel more engaging. HOI4 has looots of menus but also some nice abstractions like battle plans where you engage with the map but still save having to micro each unit.
Its not easy but I think where you can, it adds engagement to click on the map
@@Fik0n 1. Troops will be moving on the map and controllable. Johan hates vicky war system 2. There will be much more and cooler stuff to do with merchants than in eu4 (you can also half or fully automate it if that's your choice) 3. I expect colonisation to be much better than than in eu4. It's nonsense that by 1550/1600 everything is colonised. Pops and trade goods system give a
Huge potential here as insted of moving trade value we will be able to move actual goods from NW
@@ZlewikkTV That's all great stuff, and I'm really psyched for all the changes. I think all of them are improvements. I just want a more engaging UX overall instead of just buttons in menus
... zgubiłeś chyba swój jołom.
Kołpak
@@ZlewikkTV dzięki za korektę aż specjalnie pogrzebałem jak się ta czapka nazywa i kurde jołomy które wzięliśmy od kozaków i kołpaki które widzę na modlę perska nosiliśmy koszmarnie są do siebie podobne jak na moje oko... na szczęście nie pracuje w modzie.
EU5 will be way to much Victoria 3 like and I hate it unfortunately
I dont think that will be true
FAAAAAAAAAAAK..... As a Flemish guy i HATE that they put us together with the Dutchies. It makes sense since our dialect/culture deviation would only really evolve later on, BUT we do have it in EU4 ? I would LOVE to make the world Flemish. If they do it with events later on then sure (or some DLC), but that would make me even more worried since that culture stuff in ck3 can be a real mess sometimes unless they find another solution.
The most sane belgian kid
TBH I haven't been on the paradox forums in years, the admins there were always power tripping. I got temp banned at some point for necroing an old thread that was still relevant. When the temp ban was lifted I posted a new thread on the same subject and was temp banned for "spamming". I got a threat to make the ban permanent when I messaged an admin and asked how I was suppose to discuss the subject if all threads would lead to a ban. Every time I posted evidence of small historical inaccuracies (Provence being a part of the HRE in 1444, Germany having aircraft carriers researched prior to 1936, and a bug relating to monarch skill generation) my posts were ignored by the devs. They fixed the bug when they discovered it a year later but the two historical inaccuracies were never addressed beyond telling me to make a mod.
I bet it was pre PDX Tinto? These guys were always open for feedback, just like here
@@ZlewikkTV ya it was pre tinto, im glad to hear that they are more open to criticism. Honestly I have always enjoyed paradox games, just bad experiences on their forums.
As someone who always goes religious despite knowing humanist is better I hope they dont take that further in eu5. Why take 30 years vs 1 in eu4 to convert paris when you can just click tolerate and never worry about religion again
I'm little bit worried that it is going to be another cash grab just like VIC2 and CS2 and the actual game will be playable after 3 years and 200$ worth of DLCs. Paradox including christian religions like Bogomilism or Lollardism that were basically sects without much importance or shiting a ton of random microstates seems like hype boosting
To be honest... A lot of EUV mechanics so far seem focused on some abstract idea of realism. And much of what attracts me to EUIV is just fun map painting. I would much rather see a good map painter built in a modern engine that can properly make use of my hardware than whatever this is turning into.
Then play EU4. Map painting with no substance is boring after 1k hours.
yea i have thousands of hours in eu4 and i usually quit the game in early 1600's
i get too strong for anyone around that point in the game, and i get bored painting the map
no need to reinvent the wheel,just take all eu4 has now,put it on new graphics,and set all leaders in any country to be animated like ck3 and thats it
Why would you play the same game againz that's not guaranteed success. The game needs nee mechanics amd ways to play it of you want to spend another thousand of hours in it
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@@ZlewikkTVHonestly what a lot of people want is EU4 with HOI4 battle mechanics with ck3 realistic leaders that offer role-play abilities.
I hope not, but this is going to be a disaster
Why?
@@ZlewikkTV because they have too grand ideas and don't flesh out the core gameplay or compatibility, we've seen this in every single new release from paradox for so many years now, tbh I don't know how you could expect anything different.
@@ZlewikkTVPersonally if EU5 doesn’t add leader portraits I will stick to EU4 until a major sell with many dlc releases.