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If the extent to mid-game micromanaging comes down to ensuring that your primary market has wine and beer, then I'm ok with managing that part, as long as the AI makes sure all my locations gets distribution from said primary market.

I hope there is a way to see the goods needs of your burghers at the national level, so you know to import wine, wheat, silk, etc. for your whole nation with the goods automatically being dispersed to the locations where they are needed. I really hope you don’t have to look at every individual location’s burgher needs lol

I want it to be as realistic as possible

how can i convert my mughals to hindu?

I'm surprised how many Brandenburg guides there are but no Teutonic Order guide.

Terrible guide

When new venice ?

Complicated or not complicated as it might be... I just fear that you'll need two NASA supercomputers working in tandem to run 15.000 countries dividing 200.000 provinces having 1.000.000 different pops. I mean... for all those amazing games they create, their track record optimizing their software might be a bit... spotty I heard from a good friend.

Honestly, pops are a great idea. I don't care about micro. I remember that, when playing victoria, I dreaded to fight wars, simply because it would take away from my precious pops and my 5m pop utopia would collapse. Perhaps it's the OCD, but fighting any battle made me anxious, because I knew those 1000 men would be replaced with farmers, which means LESS MONEY. There was an actual incentive to be careful and diplomatic, and not just conquer the world. You don't have that in eu4. You just wait for manpower to go up and that's that.

It isn’t Byzantium. It’s Byzantium as much as you are Vladimir.

How on earth you can affort mercs and still have money

i love it i hope they keep it

Honestly much prefer a more complex paradox game than whatever we get, paradox games are and should be complicated its kind of the point almost

It took me way too long to learn how to play EU4 (and somehow even longer for HoI4, especially learning how to build units AND weaponry and how to move all of that on specific battlefields), I really really hope it won't be a pain to learn how to play EU5.

sounds like razing everything is gonna be a less lucrative strategy in eu5 but probably not enough stop playing horde

Yes yes and yes.

I forgot where are you from Red?

It's worse than having Simple systems with complicated UI's, having Complex systems with simple UI's what makes gameplay entertaining. VIC 2 was a great example of systems most people didin't understand, but the UI was almost black and white in what goals you achieve,

1:12 vicky 2?

Nah you're just hating I love those 3d characters

Ah yes another game with laggy 3D models so they can sell more cosmetic DLCs instead of good features Stellarification

There's no such thing as too much micro

Gotta love crusader victoria kings 4 - stellaris edition. This game is shit so far

No such thing as "too complicated"

Oh man, this pops system is probably gonna cause a lot of lag like in stellaris

My computer weeps

Vic 2-like pops, CK-like characters and the rest of EUIV mechanics and setting, this game is shaping up to be a dream come true

Bruh am I the only one who wants it to be complicated lmao

For me this is great news. I do not want Europe Universalis Total War. I want Europa Universalis Viktoria.

Ooof packers?? I mean it couldve been worse, couldve been [insert the team you hate most here]

Don't cater to normies. If someone wants to play a complex game they can spend 5min reading instructions more complicated than "point and click", this catering to the LCD is what has ruined gaming.

I think the complexity of satisfaction will work if it's something that can be ignored if you're a larger state. Like you said, if you're a large empire you won't be concerning yourself with the needs of peasants in a rural town, that's just the downsides of a large state. Whilst the situation in your country would be improved if you see to the peasants needs, it is to minor for a large empire to care about that one case until it becomes impactful. Think of marginal electorates in elections.

@3:00 I had mentioned this on a previous episode were you talked about pops, and it is looking very reminiscent of the layout for Empire : Total War (minus the peasant/noble bit). And it was very easy to manage, I don't foresee this being any more difficult aside from maybe having to juggle/handle events. I remember in that game too characters that had a certain faith would automatically spread it in the area they were in, so if that carries over too that would be swell

I didn’t like the trading in Imperator Rome.. this looks like that on steroids. Agree it should be automated. Europa Universalis is about the big picture

This is the game I want.

I fI wanted to play vicky i'd play vicky. This looks like a massive pain in the ass. and once again "It can be automated" Is not comforting the PDX AI is not smart and we all know it.

It being too micro intensive is definitely a big concern for me. I’m not sure how i feel about all this pop management being automatable because i’m pretty skeptical about how well the ai is gonna be able to handle this stuff. Like i remember in stellaris when you could theoretically let the ai handle your sectors for you but then it just wouldn’t build anything no matter how much resources you gave it. I haven’t played stellaris in a while though so maybe that’s better now?

Is EU5 Going To Be TOO COMPLICATED? YES. Oh, it's not EUV even if that's what PDX ends up naming it.

The reason they're still calling it Project Caesar because I don't think the game itself is actually going to be called "Europa Universalis". PDX is probably going to try to rebrand the game as something else since the current political climate tends to see that kind of name as "Eurocentric" despite it being very apt for that period in history. I do hope I'm wrong though, and it is just speculation.

I simply won’t play it because I’ll have to wait a decade for it to be good and my laptop can’t run the 3d model paradox is pushing

Nobody needs those 3D portraits... really first thing i don´t like either.

I think the complexity doesn't really fit the eu formula. If the pop needs can be managed on a macro scale I suppose it will be fine, with the single province scope being only necessary sporadically to fix some local problem in some location. If we need to fix constant problems in many locations, this is a deal breaker. But hey let's let em cook, and decide whether it's worth our money when they deliver.

ugh, this is not good. I want to play FRANCE, not Paris. I don't care about a single region. If there is no Beer, someone should brew some, right ? And if you can make money with someone will do it. This game is drowning in micro management. This sound like Communism, where the state has to provide all needs for the people to make them happy. I do not care about my burghers as long they pay taxes. And i will not provide them with Beer, really not. If they like wine too much i'll tax it. Well i'll tax the living sh** out of them. Wars are expensive, right ? But i'd not call this Eu5 system complicated. Its just drowning in tasks that are no fun. Imagine a country with a couple hundred regions. How long will it take to optimize even half of them ? The lack of micro management is exactly why i love Eu4. You have a few ways to tweak it with development, and i had wished for buildings just do increase these development. That'd have been a natural way. But overall the regions just do their thing and you can steer it to a degree. Enough micro i'd say.

As much as you keep using his lingo, I keep expecting you to remove your mask and reveal you're really Ludi.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think trading goods and trade were managed at this high level of detail by the state/court in the medieval period.

Answer: Yes!

No game can & will be better than EU4

Im so glad it will be complicated 🥰

Eu5 being too complicated is a real concern. Eu4 is already too complicated for the average person just stepping into their first paradox game.

WHY NOT FULLSCREEN IF I MAY ASK