Japanese Dad-Daughter Duo's unspeakable murder in LOVE MOTEL
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Something psychologists learn in 100 level classes is you can't treat your own children. You have too much bias to see the situation clearly. So the second he said "I'm treating my daughter myself" I groaned, knowing that actually translates to, "I'm disregarding basic training and going to enable the hell out of this child."
I don't think that was his objective. I think he knew that if anyone else saw his child they would figure out what he had done to her. Incest.
@@ville__they’re both great 😂 weird to come into her channel just to dis her but ok lol
@@ville__ wait... do you mean map as in 'minor-attracted-person', because if you are I hope you're joking.
@@RainTheStrawberryno one uses MAP instead of pedofile as a joke. That person is sick and needs help.
@@Eleanore.RigbyyOh no, they seriously do need help, thank you for letting me know.
This feels like parents who deep down knew something was wrong with their kid but stubbornly pretended everything was fine until it was too late.
For real.
True
more like there is something wrong with the parent and they projected their creepiness onto their child and created their own little monster.
Possibly, it reeks of them ignoring the problem for the longest time because admitting that their daughter needed help was a personal failure and as she became a consenting adult they helicoptered her in fear she would cause trouble. Of course this is all speculation on my end. I just keep getting the vibe they were trying to cover for her to avoid shame, like "hide her away so no one will find out what's really going on and call us bad parents" if that makes sense.
@@XianDesignCo yeah I think so too
the fact she cleaned the blood around but left a whole headless body there is psycho
For real She is not even trying to cover the headless body up in love hotel
That’s an act hopefully to stall identification of the victim, right❔
@@CruzCruz-nw7fi If they really wanted to stall identifying the victim they'd have to remove fingerprints and teeth as well, wouldn't they? This way it just seems pointless and weird.
@@sourgummiescureyourpain4555
I think she wanted to scare the staff as much as possible. So that they would have to go through the room to see the horrible body (which they now would be very close to). If they had opened the door and there was blood everywhere - the staff would’ve just backed out from fear and called the police (and she knows police aren’t as easily scared/traumatized as us civilians).
@@CruzCruz-nw7fiI think it was a bit simpler. If she walked out of the room, it was bloody and someone would see it through a crack in the door, they would have caused a scene and caught her immediately. By keeping the horror as far away as possible from the entrance, she bought herself time just in case.
I feel so bad for the hotel staff that discovered the body, i can’t even imagine how traumatising that’d be..
Imagine having nightmares because of it🥲💔
Everyone I’ve known over time, including myself, who found a body, has more or less been psychologically shaken by it at the very least and often far worse. It’s worse or not as awful depending on the state/appearance of the decedent, the relationship to oneself (if any), one’s state of mind, one’s trauma history and aftermath, and many other factors.
I was a person who couldn’t handle most horror films and had never even attended an open-casket funeral and afterwards I became a bit fixated on attempting to master my fear as much as i could, with mixed results. Later, when i was escaping from relationships w/ violence I had the same type of reaction at some stage: determination to harden myself to not go into disabling shock so that I could handle & respond adequately to the situation rationally & strategically. I also coped by constantly imagining myself responding to help/protect others, which was also oddly comforting as I had this attitude that “I wont let this type of thing happen to anyone else if I can help it - in case of danger I have to be the one (or one of the ones) who acts fast and instinctively to minimize harm to others”
The only people I’ve known who claimed that they were better at handling finding bodies were either exposed to enough trauma-triggering situations that they had learned adaptations (good and not so great) to deal with the situation in the moment and afterwards or had been exposed to a lot of graphic gore content online fairly often and at pretty formative years.
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Me be like working at hotel I don’t really go open the door I will wait or call the leader to telll me first that the Guest is out and everything is fine then I can go in.I’m kind of scared to open each door every day 😢
@@whoareyou-kp8lr I can’t even begin to grasp the impact of seeing a corpse must have on someone, let alone a beheaded one
@@x77punk77x Youre a very strong person, confronting fears and channeling that experience into a commitment to protect others is truly commendable
In and out with a clean murder scene and a whole head in under 3 hours is CRAZY effecient. The amount of prep and skill involved there alone is extremely concerning and makes me have a hard time believing she didnt only kill for pleasure but this isnt the first time AT ALL.
3 hours is no room for panic, hesitation, being bad at cleaning or changing your clothes after, etc.
Exactly this. And I feel gross inside due to the fact that out of natural human curiosity that I know I will need to wait years until anyone gets any real answers to any of the thousands of questions this case brings up. But, with Japan's low homicide rate, I would be VERY curious to know how many unsolved cases that country has in recent years with ANYTHING similar to this specific case. Could this be a family of serial killers even _more_ cold, calculated, and 'efficient' than Israel Keys? And we KNOW there are A LOT out there. 8 billion humans on this earth and counting..
@@moonsigilbut weren’t they experienced?
Fr - it was like she thought of the whole process of the aftermath after she killed him ….
That’s what I was thinking 😭 Either she planned this out FULLY ahead of time or she LEARNED how to execute it from prior experience. I’m not fully sure it’s impossible to execute this without experience because the reality is drastically different than the fantasy/idea hence there’s almost always a repulsion the perpetrator goes through before they disconnect their actions from their feelings during execution. Usually this repulsion phase delays the cleanup process the most but maybe in her case it hastened it?
I misread this at first and thought you were saying the hotel room situation was efficient. 😂 I was like oh my there’s serial killers in the comments 😂😂😂 ahahaha glad to see you’re normal.
And I agree !
I think the murder was premeditated and it wasn’t just random. She had bought all these disguised outfits to get away with it and even kept a dead man’s decapitated head at her home like some sort of ritual or reward whiles her parents knew. she needs to be locked away with her dad and anyone who took part in this henious crime.
How did you conclude all of it within the first 10 minutes her posting it 😂
@@breadjinneeI listened to the podcast on Spotify already 😅
Did she buy all that at the same place cause that's gotta be a massive red flag at check out.
@@ville__ew.
Agreed!!
the trauma that motel working lady is gonna carry for the rest of her life is unimaginable
Please please please do an update on this case when the trial happens and evidence comes out. This case has a lot if gray areas it'd be helpful to sew how this plays out in court and which allegations are confirmed or not. Love you!
I second this!
I hope she doesn't end up in jail. That guy was a real creep. I've never felt sympathy for a kiIIer before, but can you blame me? It seems like the girl was manipulated by him. Her family endured weeks of terror because of him. I only feel sorry for his two boys and his wife, who must have suffered a lot. But as for him, I feel nothing but contempt.
@@officialgumstarzzz3422bait used to be believable
I feel so bad for the Dr's patients. Imagining learning that your therapist is actually a killer- that the help you've been receiving was one with hands who are stained with blood.
Or being his patient and little do you know that he has someone’s head chilling in his bathtub back at home 😮
yea theres no way they dont get trust issues after that
I would be horrified to learn that my therapist goes to the club with their daughter so I cannot imagine learning my therapist did all of this.
Reminds me of Hannibal
Another reminder to not read comments before the video finishes.
I’m not a native Japanese speaker, but I am decently fluent, and I just thought I’d offer my perspective on how he refers to his daughter. Musume-san is the common way to refer to /other peoples’/ daughters. So although it comes across as weirdly respectful of one’s own child, the vibe I get is less like royalty, and more like distance.
cool
Oh wow that makes so much more sense
The speculative narrative of Dr. T and Runa’s dad plays a huge part in this video, do you feel like a language barrier had a role in this?
I have heard the usage in very old school, well to do families addressing adult daughters. I suppose a Head of Psychiatry at a major hospital would quailfy but, that's a generation or two out of fashion. The only other time is when there is a family business involved and the diminutive -Chan wouldn't be appropriate. Like if she had seniority over subordinate staff of if say, they operated a medical practice together.
Since that isn't the case here, it's just one more reason this family is weird af.
Like a strict sort of vibe? Like when American parents make their kids call them sir?
Hey stephanie, I would like to inform you that a lot of details in this case has been misinterpreted. Btw the name of the victim is Hiroshi and he was a known creep who used to prey on women in clubs, multiple sources has confirmed that. He was a known "crocodile" (a term used to describe men who bother female patrons at establishments). The theory that Runa was SAed holds true and her having a lot of bothersome incidenta in childhood and showing really violent tendencies have been testified by former teachers and classmates. She was supposedly an outcast in school and a victim of intense bullying which aggravated her antisocial tendencies and had a really special bond to her dad.
Yes! I was shocked none of this was mentioned! I know the case is ongoing but those details have been in like every coverage video I’ve heard on this!
Wait, he was a known creep? Maybe they were doing some sort of vigilante thing.
Stephanie actually did mention the victim, accused by his killer, assaulted her and dressed more feminine to prey upon uoung women at clubs. She just states those were allegations at the time she made the video, made by the killer. So maybe she didn't know he was a known creep?
Either way, vigilante justice isn't justice.
@@peach6923
I think this was pure revenge. And not any other theory. The fact that even her mom allowed to keep the head inside the house is because of pure revenge motive.
As I hear this case,the dad looking out -sitting outside his house and car is his way of protecting Runa.
Him looking at Runa dancing with Hiroshi was him keeping an eye that Hiroshi won't do anymore SA stuff to Runa.
That's why he was present at all moment once they planned to kill him.
Yesss!!
Your husband after hearing about the ramen themed room…” That’s the one “ 😂
My one question is, how did the psychiatrist's wife feel about him going clubbing alone with his daughter? I have all sorts of questions about how that was going down....
And how come she was so clingy on a transwoman who clearly doesn't pass as a woman and then goes back to the motel with him? With dad outside?! So weird!
@@pat-paterson hey it was said pretty extensively in the video that there is no evidence that the victim identified as a woman. Please don't bring trans people into this, and if you absolutely need to, don't proceed to misgender us.
There are all SORTS of questions we need answered in that whole insane situation..! And DEFINITELY that one is among them! Also, "Why did Mom put up with a rotting head in a tub?!" My mom hated it if I left soap residue on the bottom of the tub, much less 'mushy brains dribbling all over'..!
Also, @Patty...yeeeeeah, "Dad staring" was just freaking me out by the end. Outside their house, and while she was in the love hotel, and while she was dancing, and!...bleagh. Too creepy. That whole situation is wild. And horrifying.
@@pat-patersonmaybe they were targeting lgbt people?
@@EShirakoi feel like the mom had to have known and been okay with the murder because the smell would've been insane..
Like how do you decapitate someone’s head in a love Motel and walk out with his head in a suitcase. Her Father is weird for been in this whole murder case and as someone that needed to diagnose his daughters condition or at least got her other professional help played a disgusting role in this and it makes me sick
yeah i listened to this on the spotify podcast and it’s super weird to me that the father didn’t do anything to help his daughters condition, i don’t understand why he wouldn’t seek help for her
Why you spoiling
@@asshunnngami Exactly I feel like the dad is the root of the daughter’s problems . He could have got her professional help. He ignored all the signs and it got bad
@@tomohawkcloudit’s not a spoiler because there’s more to the story and also it’s posted for discussion so people are going to talk about it regardless. Just pretend you didn’t see my comment
@@tomohawkcloud Why are you reading comments before watching the whole vid? :)
As a hotel receptionnist with hemophobia finding a decapitated body in the bathtub is probably one of my worst fear.
She went full American Psycho with the rain coat and gloves
there's a case about a 10 year old boy called Rabie, he suddenly disapeared around 2010 with no trace for more than a year, it turns out he was kidnapped for revenge by family members, his body was decapitated and used for some "black magic" treasure hunting. And when his parents thought that the only way to find justice for their son was to go on tv and point the finger at someone, the killer thought it was a good idea to do the same to defend himself, appear and sit opposite to the boy's parents on live tv! this case brought a lot of attention and was famous all around the country,
it would be great if you research this case, it's really interresting and have many twists and turns. the place is Tunisia, North Africa.
Ever heard of Adam of the Thames? Similar story. I still have nightmares about that case.
@@Othique just looked it up, similar
I don't think she covers Cases from African Countries. She is mostly focused on Asian cases and ones in a while covers American trending cases!!
@@OthiqueThank you for the mention,just searched and Stephanie Harlow has a 2part deep dive on it so am excited to listen to her coverage!!
@@Debateyourright I love Stephanie! 🥰 Her attention to detail & witty quips is unmatched, imo. I know she's not for everyone, but I think a big reason is the majority of ppl like to get to the point of things, rather than hearing more details. I appreciate & love how detailed she is though...I know when she goes in on a story, she's going *deep* lol 😊
I think she was a case study for him. It's incredibly unprofessional to treat your own family or friends as a therapist. I think the signs as a child show he found “outlets”
I agree with this. My mom is a psychologist and she has stated that she could not diagnose me as a patient as it’s unprofessional and it’s to avoid any biases. Even if she knew what the diagnosis would be she could not do it herself someone else would have to.
When the doctor said "I'm a psychiatrist, I don't have any history of mental illness." i groaned. thinking you are immune to mental disorder just because you are a psychiatrist is a very dangerous sign
(disclaimer: if thats not what he meant, then that's good)
Ive heard psychiatrists and psychologists are often mentally ill
This is information from the Japanese Yahoo News.
Apparently, the daughter was a quiet woman who did not feel comfortable being with men. The victim was a cross dresser, well-known among those communities for being a trouble-maker, even being banned from one such bars. They met at a karaoke bar or some similar place, the victim never revealed that he was a male and he befriended her. He tricked the daughter into going to a hotel room with him, she obliged not knowing her friend was a male, and he had non-consensual sex with her.
The parents found out, the father confronted the victim and demanded he never contact his daughter or show his face to her ever again.
The victim contacted the daughter again and invited her to meet up at the hotel. She agreed, fully prepared to kill him, because apparently, he was killed immediately after entering the room, as only the bathroom where the victim was decapitated was used.
The father helped his daughter cover up and evade the police. The mother has also been arrested, probably because she knew the head was in their house.
But the information still does not answer why they brought the head back to their house and seemingly not making any plans to dispose of it.
Japanese yahoo news arent a reliable source, just saying. Also thats the murderer's story, not facts
Yeah I don’t care. This was evil and premeditated. It was not self defense. It’s sick
You literally reiterated one of the theories, from this video… 💀💀💀
@@NotIfWhenWhat's also evil and sick is r@pe.
@@julieoluna8887 if it even happened. Why believe her at all ? Look what she did
She always speaks so respectfully of the victims, no matter their background/story. I really appreciate that, because no matter what, none of them deserved these awful crimes committed against them.
i mean, of course it's only right to be respectful of victims, but sometimes it feels like it's a little too whitewashed? he sounds like he was probably cheating on his wife. the way she described him as merely "having fun, cutting loose, making friends, such a social butterfly" is a little weird.
it's ok for victims to be imperfect.
@@cabbage-soupyou don’t know that though
@@cabbage-soupactually, there were articles saying he’s been luring people by doing this, and he was actually banned in some clubs because of it. 🤷♀️
@@cabbage-soupmy thoughts exactly he doesn’t seem like a great person and that’s fine to admit but she doesn’t seem like she wants to speak bad abt him at all.
@@cryfly1 of course i'm assuming, but japan's such a conservative country. most women don't even rejoin the workforce after marriage. when my friend was interning there, she said there weren't any older women in her branch and everyone assumed she'd quit after marriage.
when women do work after marriage, they tend to work low-paying part-time jobs so that their family's combined income wouldn't place them in a higher tax bracket.
in such a cultural climate, i imagine it'd be difficult for a mother of two children to be ok with an open marriage.
I find her videos and storytelling so comforting it's such a skill.
Considering it’s about murder and you still say this speaks for itself
Agree
@@CatCuddlerhonestly I've been saying this last time I got in a angruemnt cus of this. How do y'all find this calming like she's taking about someone being brutally murdered
i know ppl say her retelling skills are good in every video but its so true
her storytelling skills, yes, but not the story itself.
Thank you Stephanie for calling out that the DID disorder is utter bs, as someone with DID, nothing makes me wanna throw my phone and stop believing in the world more than when DID is mentioned in true crime, thank you for always handling the stigmatized parts of cases like gender and mental illness with such grace and love ❤️
That last statement gave me chills. Like was it a murder analysis? Was it him noting that after maybe seeing his daughter kill something for the first time? I can't imagine it was truly her first murder if she was threatening to kill kids with a knife.
Shout-out to Mr. MangoButt for reacting and asking all the questions we're having too 🙏😅🐼
@@ville__Map as in…? Y’all better not be talking about pedophiles
@@HavianEladon’t mind them, just a spam bot
Yes I appreciate MMB’s presence in these videos more than you’d think since he’s not “on camera”! It’s like he’s us :p
I thought his name was stubby now ?😅
It's like we are seeing Stephanie with his eyes. Quite a privilege!
Side note about dolls, dolls related hobbies are widely present in Japan, from traditional dolls like hina ningyo or hakata dolls, to ball jointed dolls, non of those are cheap! Even kids dolls like Rika chan are typically more expensive than Barbies (who is not so popular here), but we’re only talking around 30-40$. But if we’re talking BJD type, the hobby easily goes to hundreds, even thousands dollars… those are basically not meant for children!
Those japanese dolls always give me creep. I am not scared of barbies, but those porcelain dolls are so scary
I love ball jointed dolls. It made me a little sad how she talks about them here…
Exactly! E.g. I believe a full set Popovy Sisters doll costs around $10,000 (at least, that was the price a few years ago, it might’ve gone up). They’re definitely not meant to be toys for children but art.
@@effingcool1780ooh
@@annieapplecheek I am so happy to find someone who knows about the Popovy sisters dolls even on a true crime video
as someone with a therapist for a mom, they absolutely DO NOT follow their own advice
I imagine that is incredibly frustrating.
Me,a doll collector,currently customizing a doll,watching this video: HEY!?
I collect dolls too! ❤️ We aren't creepy
I'm just the casual action figure collector
My Theory: This was like a contained experiment if I ever seen one. The Doctor and his wife was very aware that their daughter had psychotic tendencies because he evaluated her when she started showing signs. The doctor started noticing that his daughter's behavior was escalating but they didn't want to put her away because she's their only daughter. So what better way to let your kid get her fantasy off but to keep an eye on her and clean up after her. They wanted to stop her but not only did they love her but they started to fear her (explains why she not only lived with them but seem to appease her). It feels like this was not the 1st time she has done something like this, but it's the first time it came home. It caused the wife to face exactly what her daughter was, but the father was very well aware. It feels like he may have been writing the observations somewhere planning for a paper or book.
wow this is very interesting theory but also sick.. i can't fathom someone let alone a parent to do this.. disgusting.
I like your theory. I was thinking along the same lines but I want to shoehorn in some incest ever since the thumbnail. Maybe not but something extremely traumatic happened to this girl very early in life. It's interesting that she talked about having an alternate personality because DID is not something that her father should put much stock in. If it is something that can actually happen to a person then it's brought on by very early sexual abuse from inside a respected, proper and morally correct social environment.
In any event, if the doctor was conducting an experiment then he must have notes!
Often these traits are genetic so they mightve had less care, or the dad alone, to report their child
Yess great theory
@@jamiemetcalfe7945 If there was some type of trauma, her reaction was to need more power in her relationships no matter who it was. It seems like she equated knives with power or safety (either one). I truthfully think she’s a predator now. This seems like she’s done it before because she knew exactly what she needed to make her kit.
This case is giving me dexter vibes. Maybe the father knew his daughter was completely antisocial and being a doctor he believed he could control her. And maybe they worked together to find a victim that they deemed guilty in some way.
Like he was taming the Hyde in her? I thought the same but it doesn't explain why he would sit in his car all day staring down the street.
dexter???
So basically it's:
Daughter = Joker
Dad = Harlequin
Scenario.
It could be one of those vigilante type things, where they did pick the victim based on the prejudice that he dressed that way to lure girls into motels. They deemed him killable, it would be justified in their minds. I believe her dad 100% knew and possibly planned with her/maybe even for her.. really twisted case
i thought the same. he was trying to find a way for her to live her life while being deemed "incurable"
I think Runa is not neurotypical, and may have shown some signs of mental illness as a child. Her father was a psychiatrist and realised that if she went to get help, it would reflect badly on his career, making him look 'incompetent'. So he blocked her from getting mental help, but this made the problems worse and the coping mechanism he came up with was to spoil her so she wouldn't act out. Runa learned that if she acted out, her parents would trip over themselves to please her. And things just escalated more and more.
Agreed. The stories of her childhood behavior reminds me a lot of my childhood: and I'm autistic.
Please don't toss ND and then automatically go towards mental illness. ND doesn't automatically make one with mental illness.
Granted, I feel some mental illnesses aren't fully illnesses, but just differences
Don't diagnose random people with mental illness. It reflects poorly on those actually diagnosed with it and can make their lives more difficult.
@@delsingray5923ND is not real terminology
Makes sense
Maybe it was a Dexter situation where the father as a psychiatrist was aware his daughter was a psychopath. So he purposely didn’t want other psychiatrists to treat her so she wouldn’t get caught. Then he needed an outlet for her to unleash her desires so she wouldn’t harm innocent people, family members or classmates. He mentioned society is the problem, perhaps he justifies his actions by eradicating what he believes in his mind is the “scum of society” - a cheating, crossdressing, sexual harasser. To him Hitoshi might’ve been a “kimochiwarui ojisan” or “dame ningen”. Meanwhile giving his psychopathic daughter an outlet to release. Killing 2 birds with one stone. Just a theory.
That's exactly what I thought. And him staring down the streets or his strange behavior is just him thinking how to continue living like that, without losing his only daughter.
I agree!!
there have been cases of dad-daughter toxic dynamics having a incestuous element, but where they seem to be acutely aware of how taboo engaging in that would be so instead the daughter would engage in sexual activity with a stranger and the dad would watch or she'd send pictures/videos or iirc there was one where the dad specifically picked out who his daughter would marry or date and that was their way of i guess being involved without actually being involved and tbh this dad-daughter duo just makes me think of that. there's definitely something very suspect about their whole dynamic.
Hi, I live in the city this murder happened and I can go that love hotel district in 20 minutes! I discovered you a few months ago as someone interested in true crime, and I’m commenting for the first time because I was actually going to ask you if you could cover this incident, so thank you! I’d been following our local news stations and found information here and there online but you filled in all the gaps for me. I’m still shocked that this happened in this city, and that they kept the decapitated head in their house for 3 weeks (their home is only 2 cities or so away from here and is actually somewhere I pass on the train to work every day)! A friend found out and told me that the victim liked to dress up as a woman, and so she was worried that it was an LGBTG+ hate crime (as it’s still not quite as accepted in Japan, especially in our area as it’s more of a “rural city” unlike Tokyo), but after watching this video, it definitely seems like it was personal. I’m curious to see the outcome of the case next year, as it will probably be all over our local news. Thank you again not only for this video, but for all the cases you cover. And stay safe everyone - you never know what could happen a few miles or even a few doors away from you!
I live in Tokyo, I was surprised to see this story covered but am glad to see more insight to it
Please update us after you have seen the updates.
@@lionessprowess3581yeah pls!
Totally off topic but, I lived in Japan, Hiroshima, for like 5 months but my biggest wish was to live in Sapporo. So to see a comment from someone from there, although under undesirable circumstances, is nice in some way. Also, in the same breath, the fact that a crime like this happened in Sapporo is just so shocking and so sad. I hope Hitoshi's soul rests in tranquility.
You stay safe, too!
I will never get over how common it is for people to just cheat on their spouses in Japan. And the fact that some people are ok with it.
My mom’s best friend growing up was Japanese living in America. Her dad had a second family in Japan. He would travel between countries and spend time with both sets of wives and kids and pretend like he was just away on business.
????????.
@@thecolorjuneHuh??????!.
@@thecolorjune damn, how do people have the emotional capacity for this...
It's a great place but also fked up. A real quality of island countries...they become "weird". The amount of young women turning to adult industries doesn't spell good things, and I'm not saying these people can't do what they want. But that seems like a big societal, civilizational flaw. And yeah, the cheating thing is absurd. This is going to sound disrespectful but I find Japanese to be real doormats to foreigners as well. I can go on about what's fked up there
My goodness, your energy through this screen is electrifying. Thank you so much⭐️👌🏾
Why would you go to a motel alone with your "abuser"? Why would the father let his precious daughter that he claimed he wanted to protect after what she went through go out with her "abuser"? The daughter-father's relationship in this case is just so f odd, just like two psych0 lovers
I think that's exactly what's happening. The poor girl might not even remember when it started
Hey this line of reasoning is using victim blaming language. I agree with you that this woman likely committed the crime purposefully, but let’s set that aside for a moment to discuss trauma responses. Everyone responds to trauma differently for example in the Demi Lovato documentary here on YT Demi explains how she was raped by her drug dealer while she was overdosing and after recovering in the hospital she sought him out again in an effort to reclaim her power. She did the same thing when she was raped for the first time at 16 while working at Disney. And yet in a safe therapy setting there is something helpful about recounting traumatic experiences and changing the narrative, but of course you shouldn’t physically go through with that. Trauma responses are complicated but a survivor’s desire to try to replay the incident is not uncommon and if done in a professional setting such as in an EMDR session, it can be very helpful to trauma recovery. I just wanted to respectfully push back on this because victim blaming language hurts us all and it’s through places like CZcams where survivors may come to understand that they actually were assaulted. Also with this case, I think it’s still possible that she was assaulted which doesn’t negate the fact that she set him up to be murdered after but does make me sympathize with her mental state.
@@13realmusic um, yeah. Apparently this victim's method of reclaiming her power is a little confrontational but effective. The poor wee thing, I hope she feels better now.
She killed her rapist with her dad's help? I don't see anything wrong with that tbh.
@@13realmusic So nowadays you murder someone and then come out with the excuse of being assaulted by the victim without any proof... blaming the victim in this case is defending a murderer just because she accused his victim of being a rapist without considering the fact this girl is mentally ill.
I have been there and there is no possible way for me, much less my father, to expose myself to walking into a room alone with my abuser. It's clear to me that she wasn't in her right mind, and I know that Everyone responds differently to trauma but come on, the family knew everything and didn't report it to the police? Idk, this is a fishy situation for me...
I'm an adult (23) doll collector who makes “trinkets” for their dolls, and 99% of us are average adults with a hobby! We get creeps, AHs, and garbage people in our community, just like any other!
Yep I love making historical costumes for my American Girl doll! I'm a normative 40 year-old career Nanny who likes repairing toys/dolls! Weirdos have a tendency to make anything weird and that's with any hobby/interest!
Relax it's just a minor detail about the girl.
@@whydontyousmile8388 not you telling someone to relax when you're getting upset like a child cause someone is sharing about their hobby and community WHICH IS MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO literally you're the one that needs to go touch grass instead of these unnecessary comments...
@@stardoll1995it’s so funny they aren’t realizing they’re part of the problem… maybe if they relaxed themselves things would be fine lmao! 💀 some people online, seriously…
She knows not everyone who owns dolls and makes dresses is a destined killer. Just how not every grown adult who watches MLP is a predator.
I love that theres no amount of judgement in this video. this channel feels so safe despite the grim topics.
Unless you are an adult who likes collecting dolls! Loads of judgement there.
"They're designed for people to get in and get out..... literally" Had me laughing my @ss off 😂😂😂
Get in, get off, get out 😂
I think the idea that you could trick some one into platonically going into a love hotel by cross dressing is strange. I wouldn’t go to love hotel with an older woman. It could be a societal think thing though.
No one would this case is very strange
Yeah, love hotels really are only for “love” lmao, no one would go without that intention
95% of the time you know when someone is cross dressed. And this man was no thai lady boy.
I don't think the victim did anything to precipitate his murder, but he is a creepy dude. I worry about what he might have gotten up to.
@@Sorata-KaiYa, even if they had rented a regular hotel room together the implications would still be that they were going there to be intimate. If you want to get to know someone better platonically you take them to a coffee shop or something.
Stephanie's storytelling skills are truly out of this world. Quality content all the way!
mmm kinda not... she rambles a lot sometimes with unnecesary info
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she’s amazing, even if she rambles i’ll still listen❤
@@johnynoway9127You’re here are you not?! That means there’s at least something you like about her storytelling… enough to have you come back and listen to her “ramble” on her most recent post. It’s fine if you don’t like her storytelling, that’s your personal preference and you’re aloud to have that opinion, but I’m curious as to why you would come back and listen to her most recent post where she’s telling a story if you don’t like the way she tells stories?!
And besides, some of the information she “rambles” that you find unnecessary might be unnecessary to you but it could be useful and insightful to others.
@@nickib.2000 well... as someone who kinda wants to write a story...her rambles might end up inspiring me.
But...
Yea some of it is not really case relevant at all.
And who knows if she doesnt just make some of them up on the spot.
In my opinion she was probably SA’d by her dad, I know such speculation can be harmful but in my experience she shows a lot of telltale signs to severe and repeated childhood trauma, and her relationship and dependence on her father and the way he is with her,it just seems to be to many red flags.
She was heavily bullied at school when she was younger, the bullying was so intense that her parents pulled her out of school, so maybe her attachment to her dad is a result of that (?)
why do people always assume SA, and never consider that emotional (and unlikely in this case, but physical) abuse could cause more damage. The brain is the most complex piece of biology ever, that's why there's a whole branch of science dedicated to it.
Humans are social creatures. Isolation is THE MAIN cause of mental illnesses, and it causes heavy dependency. That is the most obvious answer from a psychological standpoint, likely no abuse (or maybe a little emotional) was done.
Dear Steph, Thailand just happened to have a shooting in the mall which is really sad, but previously there was another shooting at the mall in the northeastern province called Korat which left the whole nation speechless, there were rumors about corruption, bully etc. on that case. Korat is my hometown so I will be gladly provide in the info you need, if you want to do. I just feel like you would actually tell the story in a way that no one can. Your videos are all full of facts and the way you tell is amazing.
I remember hearing about this case and watching the news and reading post about it (I live in Japan). It is said that she was bullied for being different as a child and kids started to become afraid of her when she chased a kid and almost stabbed him for teasing her. Some say she had a disdain for men and preferred women. Originally it is said she thought Hitoshi was a woman but of course we don’t know. There are said to be allegations that Hitoshi SA some younger women as well after meeting them at the clubs.
yeah that's what I heard too! I heard he dressed up as a woman mainly for 3 things: his fetish, to get free stuff from men who thought he's a woman, and to lure lesbians. Runa claimed to be either bi or a lesbian if I'm not mistaken, these are the things my Japanese friends told me, they also said that not only he often grope women, he even got banned from some bathhouse for peeping
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It’s weird that Stephanie leaves this information out…
@@jacqychan id like a source for this other than "i heard that". Its very common in conservative countries (and others tbh) to paint trans people/gender noncomformikg people as predators, especially trans women and queer men
I personally think the father couldn’t accept that there was something wrong with his daughter. It’s like he spaces out whenever she does something odd or acts like she never did it. Maybe that’s why she is so comfortable doing things around her dad because he doesn’t judge her, he just doesn’t say anything
My theory: the father and daughter had some sort of inappropriate, emotionally or physically incestuous relationship that led the daughter to develop a deep rage, a fascination with knives, and possibly also dissociation and/or psychosis.
I find the daughter's fascination with knives at such a young age to be highly unusual, especially for a girl. In my opinion, her fascination is likely a response to something that happened to her, most likely the experience of being violated in some way. Being preoccupied with knives reflects her desire to harm someone else and also a desire to defend and protect herself. Knives are also phallic symbols. From a psychoanalytic standpoint, she's preoccupied with becoming the person who has a powerful phallus, and who is able to use it as a weapon, perhaps similar to how someone else used their phallus as a weapon against her.
The person the daughter likely has the most rage for, but who she is least able to direct it toward, is her own father. I believe the father knew well that he shouldn't be "treating" his own daughter, but he had to do it not merely to protect her, but also to protect himself. He didn't want anyone else to get in his daughter's head and actually get to the bottom of her strange behavior and preoccupations, most likely because they would lead back to him.
P.S. How does one account for her having a fascination with knives on the one hand, and dolls on the other? The dolls are a symbol of her childhood and innocence, while the knives reflect her rage at losing both in some traumatic way.
As an armchair psychologist, she sounds like she might be autistic. On a top of that, she might be slightly psychopathic, sadistic and have lower IQ. Or her sadism and aggression are a result of abuse by her father. I can imagine her father was the one telling her to kill him, because he is jealous. Then records her playing with the severed head.
Possibly. But some people are just crazy, some people are inherently good, and some are inherently bad, some are swayed to turn bad, some are swayed to turn good. But this chick was 29, when she mutilated a 60year old and played with his decapitated head. Shes beyond evil, the whole family is twisted.
@Lynn.B. Maybe it was a yearning for a childhood of innocence she never got? Like, trying to replicate it, you can control a doll's circumstances, but you can't control what happened to you. I'm assuming the knives were anger and some sort of yearning to inflict damage or draw blood. It might be a horrifying and disgusting outlet for her to vent. Either that, or she could have a sick obsession with hurting people. Regardless, though, there's definetly control issues there, again with the doll's, but maybe the knives too? Wanting to find the perfect knife that cuts the way you like, handle, length, look. Control issues also, because of how meticulous she was in cleaning up, and getting everything she'd need ahead of time, also, having a ride ready, all that stuff. However, control again, because she chose to leave the body, it might have given her a gross sense of power, and control over the individual. Whatever the case, though, she's a seriously twisted individual, who needs to spend the rest of her life behind bars.
Probably also something genetic, between her and the dad. They're both apathetic seeming.
Yoo I’ve NEVER been so invested/fully engaged in a 4 minute intro in MY LIFE. You’re an angel, and seriously skilled and talented at scriptwriting and delivery. You deserve every good fortune in life Steph.. much love.
This case is so disturbing! The only other theory I can think of: Since the dad took responsibility for her psychiatric care, maybe he felt like he had to help her after the murder bc he failed to properly treat her mental health issues. But absolutely none of the theories excuse what they did!
The thing is tho that he didn’t help her. He enabled her and covered for her. I feel like it was more protecting her than taking responsibility for her
Her poor husband through the intro!😅😂😂 How many takes did this take. Honestly! You guys are awesome.
This Is my new favorite show or "CZcams SERIES" thank you for the stories you cover and bring light to. Stories that might not otherwise get told. Keep up the awesome work! Much love from Oregon, USA
I just started watching your videos. I just love the way you narrate the stories. Very unique and captivating. Now I have to start binge watching your stories. 👍
The first source I saw on this case mentioned something about Runa and Hitoshi meeting online before meeting in person for the first time at the club. It also mentioned something about Runa hating men from a very early age. She initially believed Hitoshi was a older cis woman and was furious when she discovered Hitoshi was AMAB. These may just be rumors but I thought it might be worth mentioning. I won’t speculate about Hitoshi’s gender identity since the only person who could truly answer that question is dead and I appreciate you not jumping to any conclusions like I’ve seen others do. Thanks for another amazing video.
I live in Chile (south america), and we called them "motels" but its the same thing. They have themes like jungle or the woods, futuristic, etc. I love your videos!! I have learned so much about other cultures with all of your channels! Everytime you tell a story or teach us something, you are so passionate, responsible, human and caring.
Same in Brazil!
That sounds sooo much cooler than motels in the US!
Your channel is literally my new obsession you are such an amazing storyteller whether they are books that you were speaking about or true stories in which I learned so much about other cultures especially Korea lately good or bad you speak about them very compassionately and factually..I love the support you're husband gives you and just how incredibly creative you are most people just take other people's stories and tell them and of course that is essentially what you were doing but you put your own twist doing it in any way in which I feel as though I'm being educated and would be safer and more knowledgeable when I do travel. I love true crime but I don't like to feel as though I'm explaining it I love that you donate and actually care. Keep up the amazing work and stay you!
hello, stephanie. I live in Russia and I would like to tell you about a tragedy, 25 of march 2018. it was the day when a big shopping mall had a fire, and a lot of kids died. this is the tragedy I will never forget, and no one will ever forget. it happened because the mall didn’t have enough exits and the windows were very tiny, no one could escape. talking about ambulances, they just didn’t come in many minutes, because they didn’t care. no one was sentenced, no one is in jail. there are a lot of videos from this mall and a lot of phone calls’ records with ambulances
I can tell you more, if you’re interested
yeah, it was very disturbing. I remember how all our group watched those graphic videos. Horrible. I believe there was also something about stuff, loking kind in the cinema so they can't wander of during film? And then going for lunch or something, so they were not present near cinema when the fire started and kids & parents cried for help to unlock the door
The daddy dearest theory hits hard- especially with that last quote about no longer being human but a monster after you kill someone.
Some points that are found in a lot of articles here in Japan about the case that weren’t mentioned:
1. The victim a father of 2 (1 child being very ill) seemed to not care about his family and he out partying a lot. Not relevant? but just interesting that the victims “friends” have no good things to say about Hitoshi and backed up the sexual assault claims (not just Runa’s grandpa saying it.)
Also Hitoshi was allegedly banned from some clubs due to him sexually assaulting drunk women.
2. Runa was mentally ill from a young age and allegedly was afraid of men and got into an online relationship with Hitoshi while he was pretending to be a woman. (In which case I can understand a worried father escorting his mentally ill daughter to meet a stranger she met on the internet. She’s old enough to do what she wants but of course I can understand the doctor/dad’s side.)
3. The co-workers and friends of the doctor said he was the kindest man ever, spending his time donating and helping charities and was an extremely caring man.
4. Keeping dolls is an extremely common hobby here in Japan for adults. Also collecting miniature things.
5. After Hitoshi tricked Runa and sexually assaulted here he continued to stalk/harass her. I can understand that a mentally ill woman that was afraid of men and then tricked and sexually assaulted by one could do the unthinkable. Not an excuse; but makes sense.
I think the doctor genuinely didn’t know his daughter would do this but felt responsible after the fact because he knew his daughter was mentally ill.
Hope steph and others read this 🫡
honestly, stephanie's video really rubbed me the wrong way...
I mean, if even his friends are saying it. I think it's safe to assume that there's some truth to it.
@@shuhuasmaze5653Honestly same. And this is probably the first time I'm saying this because I love her storytelling and she's always SO GENUINE but this time it felt like she already had a bias?!?
Like it didn't feel her usual rational considering all sides kind of a video.
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i just love the way how you deliver the story.
Is anyone like me who just stumbled upon her videos and just been beinge watching all the videos 😂
Me 😂😂
Here to request a video on Dana Alotaibi (fyi she has a CZcams channel of the same name) and how she was murdered by her marine ex-husband on the freeway while being pregnant. Her case got picked up by the redpill community a while back but of course they mainly focused on victim blaming her because she was also an onlyfans model. Would be nice to see her case get the coverage it deserves in a respectful manner. She also has videos of her pleading for help from the military domestic abuse hotline on CZcams before her death.
community sounds too positive of a term for them
wtf that's so fucked up??? she was literally murdered, what does her being an onlyfans model have to do with anything?
crazy how quick people are to dehumaniz a woman the instant she becomes a sex worker... even if she retires it, something that is from a distant past and have become a totally different person, people especially men will still see her like trash on the street. a life not more or less than a rat. its sick.
@@mfknbumblebeeright. "redpill goons" sounds a lot better.
Definitely a very odd father daughter relationship, especially watching her intimately dance with others
I honestly find myself concentrating more at work when am listening to Stephanie.
What kind of work do you do?
Seeing the father's behavior from the beginning, it's hard to believe that he didn't know what was going on in that hotel.
Do you know the case of Edwin Arrieta and Daniel Sancho that happened in Thailand? It would be great if you made a video about it.
Thank you for being so kind when explaining people’s lives, you inspire me as a college student studying journalism!
Stephanie is soo dedicated to her channels. Like she is literally feeding us. And also I would love it if you could cover the case of Javed Iqbal who killed 100 children.
yes such an important yet unspoken about case.
I think she did so on her podcast. NOT too sure tho I can be wrong
THIS!
“Stephanie is Soo” made me giggle thank you for the comic relief during this case 😅 I agree though, and I would never know about these cases across the world without Steph! She’s giving the victims a voice and more of their moment in the western world too. I very much respect that about her and this channel. ❤
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I think it’s likely the victim did assault Runa but she was also a very cracked person with a bizarre relationship with her father. Kind of like that, she always had that potential, the SA was just a catalyst.
I wonder if Runa claimed he was blackmailing her but it might not have been true, which galvanised her already deeply enmeshed father to help her plan a murder. I doubt Runa’s father was the mastermind, but he is definitely the reason that Runa is the way she is.
Do you feel like her father played as an enabler to the situation?
I appreciate the neutrality and the respect given, especially not allowing bias and rumors to be absolute. Big respect for not supporting murder, even if the murder victim could've been a rapist or is guilty of molestation (molest and rape are different even if somehow related).
Murder is not the answer. I saw this even being a survivor (not me, but my brother was taken). Murder does a lot of damage, not just to the victim, but to the family and friends left behind. One will never understand unless they have faced it themselves
Marriage is seen more as a partnership in Japan, especially if you have a kid. It's common to find hotels with two beds for couples because there's a considerable number of married people that don't even share the same bed anymore. They stay together to save face, make sure their kids live in a two parent household, for financial reasons, etc. Cheating is also perceived differently. To some it's acceptable to find physical intimacy or stimulation elsewhere as long as there's no emotion involved. That's why there are hostess bars, soap lands, etc. because sex is seen more as a commodity than a passionate act.
This is very interesting.. could you elaborate the last line..thank you
OMG it’s crazy that you mentioned Hotel Alpha in Tokyo! My boyfriend and I went there the night before I left Tokyo, and we booked the most expensive room for the night. We’re not like ~that~, but it was a super fun experience. When we first got in we couldn’t stop laughing at how bizarre the room was- lights that change color depending on noise level, strange hooks/chains on the walls and ceiling (turns out those were for suspension and we definitely did not attempt any of that), the complementary “equipment”, the cross and *special* red chair, the one toilet with no door and was facing the entire room. Honestly I recommend it to anyone who’s been in a loving, long term relationship!
Hi 👋
I think you are my girlfriend!
Miss you 😘
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Did he last the whole night?
@@DUNGSTAwell until we went to sleep lol
My gut instinct is that psychiatrist father had secrets. He was abusive, and his daughter witnessed it from a young age. This was absolutely a thrill kill, otherwise she would never keep a "trophy". She saw violence perhaps against pets, her mother, anything she naturally cared about, or maybe even other humans. Her dad, as a psychiatrist, is well trained in covering any of this up. Perhaps he brought home "working" women or men. Mom turned a blind eye for whatever reasons. Daughter perceived things she should never have had to. Any one of those things can break a child's psyche. She was antisocial and accessorized her dolls because it was safe. She also hacked at trees; dolls and trees can not fight back. She learned how to dismantle things. A dead person was safe and gave her a sense of connection, the head in the bathtub was a "doll" she could manipulate. I honestly think Dad needs to be investigated further. Mom, while obviously guilty, knows things she is not telling because she also witnessed whatever terror was happening in that house. I do not think this is a case of familial SA. I think Dad has some skeletons in his closet. I would dig up the garden, tear up the floors, check the pipes, search frequented forests or parks. There is more to this story. A pretty, young woman is generally perceived as non threatening. Both father and daughter wee fully aware of this. Pops might have lost his edge or empathized with the needs of his daughter because he knew what she was going through. Some form of trauma had also destroyed him as a kid. He perhaps decided to persue mental health to untangle his own issues and negate his trauma by healing others. Therefore, he was her only therapist because the truth is too dangerous. My heart goes out to the friends and family of the person who lost their life.
Love your videos. Each and every one is fascinating…and your narration is a big reason….thank you for all the hard work it must take to do such an excellent job
This case is so bizarre but I have to admit, I laughed a little when Stephanie's husband said "she brought 20 knives to the hotel room!?" 😂 I'm sure the police confiscated every knife in the house to find the murder weapon but I'm picturing Runa with a raincoat lined with knives.
For real
Like Hustler Kid from Recess
The dad is calling his daughter as musume-san in his post is like a journal for a patient...he's like distancing himself from her like she is a subject for his study or something, just something that crosses my mind when this was said by stephanie...because "san" is kinda like a way to respect or making social boundaries meaning the person itself is not close friends or family...and mostly like saying it to a patient, client, they use 'san'.....to keep the boundaries....so just a thought...maybe the dad is trying to set boundaries to help the daughter (as a patient)...but I don't think it's the best way because no matter what she is the daughter so there's will be involving a part of emotions there....she should be having a different doctor seeing her instead of her dad....
I remember when I first landed in Seoul for a job teaching English. My recruiter was driving me to my apartment and I kept seeing these buildings that looked like castles. I said "they look really cute." My recruiter said "they're not" and proceeded to explain love hotels to me. #awkward
I listen to your podcast all the time I love how much detail you put into these and the backstory’s I listen to ur Spotify podcast all the time , plz do the Frankston murders next no one has ever covered that story !!
This was so wildly mind blowing I truly have no words. RIP to the victim, his family & the hotel worker who found the victim.
I'm only 10 minutes into the video and gonna make my hypothesis. Her dad is a child psychiatrist and the way they treat her tells me she's been traumatized as a child. He wasn't creeping on her date he was keeping an eye out for her because I bet you one of his patients opened up to him about an adult in her life abusing her and it triggered the father/daughter duo because his own daughter went through it and that sealed his faith! (I'll update at the end)
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Good one, Ms & Mr Mango. As always a well-done case. 🥭✨❤️
It’s so creepy bc the way Runa acted with Hitoshi completely contradicts what everyone else said about her personality. So you know she was just laying it on thick to reel him in.
Great respects in taking time on research and presenting multiple theories. Now in Japan, many support the sadistic kill theory. She enjoyed slowly cutting a throat of a handcuffed man, even recorded the scene. When the murderers got caught, they often blame a dead victim in order to get less punishments.
Thank you Stephanie and her team for superb analysis!
Yeah.....
@@mariakizawa-howilerphd3189Again yeah.....
This definitely has to be one of the weirdest cases I’ve heard in a while
love your channel been binge watching recently keep up the good work ❤
I like the back and forth with the hubby, it’s like he’s reading our minds.
It's 3am. I just finished my graveyard shift. Stephanie uploads. My mind tells me to sleep, but my heart tells me to watch it. And if I've been taught anything in life, it's to follow my heart. And that's why I'm here.
Woah it’s 4pm here in Kansas, You must be on the other side of the planet haha
I always watch your videos while showering or eating or doing homework, I find them so interesting,and the way you narrate things is perfect, it makes me so engaged with whatever you’re talking about, I could hear you talk about the correct way of putting the cereal and milk for days
Why do I always choose to watch RM videos late at night when I'm home alone 🙈 this situation is chilling and upsetting on so many levels, it's hard to believe real people do these things.
I’m surprised it wasn’t mentioned that Hiroshi was a known creep for dressing as a woman and preying on lgbt women? I know the case is still going but I’ve heard a lot of coverage calling roona a lesbian who was tricked by hiroshi. Doesn’t make the murder right but the motive may be different?
Well autogynophelia (agp) is a thing and,yes, if you look this up, it explains a lot of self exclaimed trans women probably just being creeps to gain excess to women......buffalo bill from silence of the lambs is another good example, and the raise of rapists claiming to be trans to be transferred to women prisons...
I’ve binged so many of your videos lately but I’m still always excited for a new upload. You do such good coverage and I feel like you have respect for the victims.
It was absolutely premeditated and I believe her father knew and assisted her. Their relationship was bizarre to say the least, seems he was infatuated with her in a very unhealthy way. I don’t believe the victim was targeted, he just happened to be in the wrong place at the right time. I feel for his wife and kids.
mhmm I definitely get the sense he had a 'vested interest' to put it lightly
I love that you do this.. Please don't stop!!! I love listening to you!
Chick, you’re just brilliant! So wild the amount of content you put out that is top tier quality! Loads would put out loads of low quality content attempting to put out such a large amount but you just set the bar so high that it’s unlikely many could get even a tiny bit close! Just brilliant chick 🥰
i love how mmb just says everything we wanna ask on behalf of us
and the way stephanie expresses her emotions, i am new to you and in a week or so i have watched all your videos ❤
I love how she tell these story it’s so clear and so understandable. I love your videos so much! ❤
As someone who was diagnosed with DID when I was 25 (nearly 33 now) I can positively say that having this disorder doesn't make me or any parts of myself want to murder someone. Even persecutors turn their pain and trauma inwards to other parts inside.
I'm sick of DID being used as an excuse for murder. Like Leticia Staunch. I suffer far more cPTSD than having my consciousness split to survive.
It's absolutely vile people would use a disorder that exists purely because of unsurvivable trauma as an excuse to kill someone.
Stephanie, I don’t truly believe that if the victim was a serial rapist that you don’t believe he didn’t deserve what he got. You cover so many sexual abuse cases and you know how sadistic and life ruining this crime is. I will never judge someone for killing their rapist, especially a serial rapist. If these allegations are true made by multiple people then not an ounce of me feels sorry for him. He ruined lives gleefully and then got his life ruined as a result. When the Japanese justice system fails SA victims, this an extreme result of that failing.
My mom always said that people who study psychology/psychiatry are really trying to understand their own problems.
I think thats a pretty broad generalization
So so happy you have gone back to the warmer set for your videos on this channel. ❤ I love being able to see the articles, photos, and footage that you include!
As far as this case goes... it's pretty shocking that she went so far as to behead him. I wonder if that was to try and avoid identification of it? On top of that, there is no way you can say this wasn't planned on her part. Geeze. Her parents involvement is also really bad too.
This doesn’t make sense to me though because in order to check into a hotel, you have to provide ID. Especially with a love hotel so they are able to verify the ages of the parties.
Maybe they were using fake IDs? I'm not sure either. Unless she really did want the head as a trophy of sorts. *shudders* That's a bad thought... >.< @@qtpinikki
I normally don't like true crime... But it's stories are so mad and surprising, they sound out of a novel. And Stephanie is just so good in telling the story!
The psycho in me thinking if he indeed crossed dress as a woman to lure girls and s*xually assaulted them (most likely Runa wasn't the first if it was true), then proceed to use video to blackmail her and her family, he probably got what he was looking for. I know we should be respectful to the victim and he doesn't deserve this brutal murder if he didn't commit any of these crimes. But I disagree to Stephanie saying he doesn't deserve this even if he did. We should take s*xual assault as it is especially to cultures that still make women victim humiliated. That video of them "dancing" says otherwise though.
You’re not a psycho for saying this. I was hurt when she suggested it wouldn’t be justified for a victim of a SERIAL rapist to kill him. He doesn’t get to ruin so many women’s lives and then expect us to feel bad when his life is ruined as a consequence.