Jesus and psychedelics in ancient times | Brian Muraresku and Lex Fridman

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  • @NicoleCtirad
    @NicoleCtirad Před měsícem +85

    Mushrooms did wonders in my life. I could remember several years ago after divorce with my wife which brought me into my disastrous journey on Alcohol and cigarettes. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.

    • @CARIBBEAN_365
      @CARIBBEAN_365 Před měsícem +1

      Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.

    • @Malikrooney-hq5jj
      @Malikrooney-hq5jj Před měsícem +1

      Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Australia. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.

    • @SusanaGomez-mp8sk
      @SusanaGomez-mp8sk Před měsícem +3

      YES very sure of Dr.benfungi. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

    • @JanetRichardson-mq5es
      @JanetRichardson-mq5es Před měsícem +1

      Mushrooms are very medicinal. This is why anybody familiar with psilocybin and any other kind of fungi will tell you, "They are alive." They have a very ancient wisdom. To my experience, all mushrooms have always said, "Pay attention to your life. How you think, how you feel, and what will you do with the information that you always knew, but now are seeing in this point of view." This is why mushrooms are so respected in tribal cultures. This mental health treatment works for me too. Half micro doses do the trick for me. At least a few days at a time with lengthy time in between. Never addictive. Thank you for sharing this point!

    • @Wimruther-hk4zn
      @Wimruther-hk4zn Před měsícem +1

      How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

  • @paxonearth
    @paxonearth Před 2 lety +1530

    If Lex and Ben Shapiro had a baby, it would speak at a normal speed.

  • @zactranten3235
    @zactranten3235 Před 2 lety +259

    All of Lex’s guests are extremely knowledgeable in their own craft. But, Brian’s range of knowledge of language is mind blowing. Super cool.

    • @ka3854
      @ka3854 Před rokem +6

      Even more impressive with Brian is how he can accurately pronounce words in all those languages. I heard him pronounce in Arabic and had to confirm if he has an arab ancestry

    • @sookmajoaby
      @sookmajoaby Před rokem

      Amazing

    • @jamie9726
      @jamie9726 Před rokem +1

      Jordan Peterson interviewed this geezer a year ago

    • @ryantv2199
      @ryantv2199 Před rokem

      I need help honestly ik Jesus is real cause predictions , and celebrities selling their soul but I need to know the real truth I have been studying and this sounds legit but we’ll find out one day

    • @bk2524
      @bk2524 Před 2 měsíci

      His knowledge on language and its interaction with the New Testament is actually weak. He says the NT doesn't reference the word alcohol, which is because it references "wine" which he acknowledges later.
      The word he is interpreting as "drug" is only used in a negative context in the NT. In other words "dont do it".
      Further, Jesus spoke Aramaic and was confined to Second Temple Judaism under Roman rule. His story was eventually translated into Greek for new converts. But to look at his Jewish life under Roman rule through a Greek Dionysian lense is a massive mistake.
      These are just some of the reasons scholars widely reject these theories that remain dead in Biblical scholarship but alive in public imagination.

  • @z0uLess
    @z0uLess Před 2 lety +22

    4:51 The book "the master and his emissary" really highlights this atomistic way of thinking.

  • @solshine41
    @solshine41 Před 2 lety +98

    I haven't heard anyone talk about the syrian rue "esfrand tea" and acacia teas thats are still used in the middle east today. The consumption of the 2 together will produce effects of ayahuasca. It seems more than coincidence that the art and architecture inside of a mosque is an imitation of the dmt relm..

    • @solshine41
      @solshine41 Před 2 lety

      @@samsungtelevision695 acacia gum is a good reference to check out..I can't find the ref to teas atm

    • @samsungtelevision695
      @samsungtelevision695 Před 2 lety +3

      @@solshine41 ok thanks for replying. It you do stumble across it and could reply here some day I’d appreciate it. Very interested in any psychedelics available in ancient times outside of the americas

    • @NewEarthAwakening
      @NewEarthAwakening Před 2 lety +7

      Exactly! The DMT released from the smoke of the Desert Acacia was the source of Moses’ visions at the burning bush! The desert acacia wood was revered as so holy, it was used for the Ark of the Covenant.

    • @SlaughterOfRoses
      @SlaughterOfRoses Před rokem +4

      I have used syrian rue to make dmt its perfect

    • @UOTCbassist
      @UOTCbassist Před rokem +5

      The architecture, the stained glass windows, big choirs/orchestras.. Imagine living your life as it would be in ancient times without as much to stimulate your senses, and getting to go to one of these Mosques or Churches to drink the body of Christ (or whatever means they had to make you trip). Seeing these massive architectural geometric shapes surrounding you covered in paintings and murals, this neon-glow-like colourful lighting radiating all around you, and the sounds of choirs filling a massive hall, all while feeling like you're in an alternate dimension.

  • @robinmckenzie9823
    @robinmckenzie9823 Před 2 lety +95

    "The Lord's Prayer" in Aramaic is absolutely psychedelic... "that which vibrates everything in sound and light."

    • @LJ7000
      @LJ7000 Před rokem +6

      Not sure where you're getting these words from?

    • @kathleenlovett1958
      @kathleenlovett1958 Před rokem +4

      Everything we see or touch is just sound and light (I still have a hard time believing it though.) Where can I find the information you mentioned?

    • @kathleenlovett1958
      @kathleenlovett1958 Před rokem +3

      @Oliver Abbot I'm interested, and would like to know more. Where did you get the information? I had always taken the Lord's Prayer mostly literally. Thank you 🙏

    • @kathleenlovett1958
      @kathleenlovett1958 Před rokem +1

      @Oliver Abbot Thank you, Oliver, for taking the time to explain that so well. I appreciate it ❣️

    • @weedeeohguy
      @weedeeohguy Před rokem +1

      Give me a freakin’ break. What? Sorcery friend. Careful. Oh yeah. Bad stuff. Been down that road. Do a U turn while you still can.

  • @nn-gr7kw
    @nn-gr7kw Před 2 lety +12

    Awesome insight in research... offering further contemplation Thank you! 💫🙏

  • @WSmith_1984
    @WSmith_1984 Před rokem +145

    From my experience/experimentation, I believe psychedelics/mediation/sound frequencies breaks down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and memories..... however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal consciousness......
    One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was this..... the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere else.......
    """"" Hey we've been waiting for you....... don't be scared...... don't be scared....... your family is here with us..... you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's family...... it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us""""
    3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c v..... at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her cousin..... with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my experience......... I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredibly sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my life......... I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use this......... there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior.
    I was a hard-core atheist before this....... now I have a new found sense of........ enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway.
    Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonautics out there.......

    • @32kirby32
      @32kirby32 Před rokem +5

      The fungus, even in micro amounts, always makes me more aware of an I ln visibile, or spiritual all around us, but not visible with our eyesight. Just a intuition or it makes me ponder these ideas far more than normal with our being sad of those past or any fear.

    • @yodaedits416
      @yodaedits416 Před rokem +2

      Idk if i am to believe you are it's all cap

    • @WSmith_1984
      @WSmith_1984 Před rokem +7

      @@yodaedits416 I don't care whether you do or not. I wouldn't have wrote it if it weren't true.....

    • @yodaedits416
      @yodaedits416 Před rokem +3

      @@WSmith_1984 I dont mean it in a judgmental way, because this is profound information.

    • @WSmith_1984
      @WSmith_1984 Před rokem +2

      @@yodaedits416 I hear you..... and like I said, whether you believe it or not, it does not change the fact that I did in fact experience this..... this wasn't the only thing as well......
      I was staying at a b and b at the time, there's was a guy who stayed there that I rarely spoke with as I didn't really like his character..... but while there, I was being shown a motorbike in the visions, two days after this experience a man pulled up to deliver 2 motorbikes to the guy who was staying at the b and b...... again if I didn't experience this, I would not be sharing this information.
      Peace, power and freedom to you and yours.

  • @odinallvater7907
    @odinallvater7907 Před rokem +15

    Fascinating to listen to this guy. If you’re in any shape or form on the path to self - improvement / discovery, his philosophies are a great puzzle piece for understanding self, and us as species collectively.
    Being able to understand “objectively”, removed from egoistic judgement or interpretation through indoctrinated beliefs is of course key.

  • @pamelajonesmd
    @pamelajonesmd Před 2 lety +139

    Terence McKenna's Food of the Gods a very well written look at psychedelics through history. A brilliant and humble guy, Terence.

    • @captainmorgen486
      @captainmorgen486 Před 2 lety +5

      RIP

    • @Realygoodatbball
      @Realygoodatbball Před 2 lety +3

      Just finished the audiobook. Fascinating stuff.

    • @TheCooterboo
      @TheCooterboo Před 2 lety +9

      @@tedgunderson67 can one be humble and pretentious at times? He was kinda showy at times, but that could have been excitement and that ignorance all humans suffer from in some manner. I felt the same reading the comment, but sitting here high got me pondering. Perception is a mofo...

    • @karltanner3953
      @karltanner3953 Před 2 lety +6

      @@tedgunderson67 Intriguing that you've come to hold such a view of Terence. I listen to his talks a lot and to me, he appears mostly as quite humble. He even repeatedly makes it a point that he is just an ordinary person who has experienced extraordinary things, and often makes fun of himself. I think he can come across as intimidating to some because of his enormous active vocabulary, but that's by no means pretentiousness, he was just a sincere lover of words and phrases and let it show.

    • @SpirosAbatis
      @SpirosAbatis Před rokem +6

      @@tedgunderson67 I appreciate your balanced response 👏

  • @nikmills
    @nikmills Před 2 lety +20

    I like how the hoodie gives the feeling of a monk.

  • @0ucantstopme034
    @0ucantstopme034 Před rokem +19

    Reading his book, and it is just packed with information/knowledge. Dude did his research for sure...

  • @beareggers
    @beareggers Před rokem +20

    1st century Jews like Jesus and his disciples would have avoided any practices that give the appearance of pagan worship. Certainly Paul who was a student of Gamaliel wouldn't have put up with it. When Paul tells the church in Corinth that women should be quiet, it is likely because the church was starting to appear like Corinth's temple to Athena. If Paul wouldn't allow Athenian worship, I doubt he would allow Dionysian worship.

    • @heresjohnny602
      @heresjohnny602 Před rokem +1

      lots of I doubts and its likely and lots of ambiguous information delivered as fact.
      you're trying to convince yourself unfortunately.

    • @andresvallelisboa5511
      @andresvallelisboa5511 Před 5 měsíci

      Christianity is a sincretism of older tradition that you call pagan.

    • @ALTheFreeMan
      @ALTheFreeMan Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@andresvallelisboa5511 This may be true for “American Christianity”, but, not true for those who are “followers of the Way”.

    • @andresvallelisboa5511
      @andresvallelisboa5511 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ALTheFreeMan Which way?

    • @ALTheFreeMan
      @ALTheFreeMan Před 3 měsíci

      @@andresvallelisboa5511 Followers of Christ.

  • @Jerryberger9235
    @Jerryberger9235 Před rokem +18

    Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here

    • @georgewilliams1062
      @georgewilliams1062 Před rokem +4

      Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.

    • @zoeywinston6826
      @zoeywinston6826 Před rokem +3

      LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself
      This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."

    • @sarahh321
      @sarahh321 Před rokem

      [_James_tray]
      Got psychs

    • @Jerryberger9235
      @Jerryberger9235 Před rokem

      @@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?

    • @nishaelvert1104
      @nishaelvert1104 Před rokem

      Last year, I took shrooms at Las Vegas thinking it was going to hit like an edible or something. Shit was scary at first but amazing once you start getting deeper into your thoughts

  • @pariaheep
    @pariaheep Před 3 měsíci

    Great conversation, gentlemen... I'm a sucker for this kind of info.

  • @NeanderdeOliveira
    @NeanderdeOliveira Před 2 lety +32

    Good closing quote. We, as a society, may access fantastical visions with drugs, but mystical experience can and has always been access with not much more than, meditation, prayer, and sometimes ritual. It’s what substance is made in the theater of the soul, not what substance to take to visit the theater.

    • @AgainstThisWorld
      @AgainstThisWorld Před rokem +1

      I do not understand why they are talking about wine and belief and things that happened in a supernatural way, I mean the Bible advise even to avoid drunk people, not only not drinking wine. Are they trying to infer that the supernatural is actually a bunch of drunkards?

    • @NeanderdeOliveira
      @NeanderdeOliveira Před rokem

      @@AgainstThisWorld I don’t know. But often we project: “I took a substance and saw wheels within wheels, therefore the prophets who saw wheels within wheels *must’ve* taken the same substance also.”

    • @reddragon9918
      @reddragon9918 Před rokem +3

      @@AgainstThisWorld Jesus literally turned water into wine and often was integral in people getting hammered

    • @matteyas
      @matteyas Před rokem +1

      Caterpillars, sharing tall tales of flight. For the people who want to understand the flight of butterflies, know two things:
      1) A caterpillar can do nothing to know flight, except give up their caterpillar life.
      2) Once a butterfly, you'll be a heretic to the caterpillars, and their tales will no longer move you.
      So if you value community over truth, it's better to join the choir and start preaching, like Neander here. You won't know what you're talking about, and you'll have to shut your eyes to not see this. Choose wisely and with courage. (There's also the path of solitude, where you admit your ignorance to yourself and others. You'll still be a caterpillar, but not one full of bs.)

    • @NeanderdeOliveira
      @NeanderdeOliveira Před rokem

      @@matteyas in your anti-preaching sermon, you made it sound like all people who have not seen sublime realities without the use of drugs have opted for a diluted truth, and that all choirs are blind. I’ve had the “courage” to try various methods, but it took more courage and will to listen to the desert poets and follow their path past the noise of pseudo-enlightened taunts.

  • @AlexandraArtzoglou
    @AlexandraArtzoglou Před rokem +33

    I'm Greek and planning to get into Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy and I'm so excited to hear all of this😍

    • @djbass7672
      @djbass7672 Před rokem

      Υπάρχει κάπου στην Ελλάδα κάτι τέτοιο;

    • @weedeeohguy
      @weedeeohguy Před rokem +5

      WARNING: A doorway to a demonic dark world.

    • @jacobdines6370
      @jacobdines6370 Před rokem

      @alexandra I’m intrigued, do you mind me asking your professional background and what the path to becoming a PAPT looks like?

    • @southernguru1455
      @southernguru1455 Před rokem +2

      I'm rooting for you, you will succeed!

    • @alexandraartzoglou2718
      @alexandraartzoglou2718 Před rokem

      @@djbass7672 Δεν εχω ιδέα, ζω στο εξωτερικό. Ολλανδία, Ελβετία, Καναδάς, ΗΠΑ είναι σιγουρα τα πιο μπροστα μερη σε αυτο. Ισως σε κανα (10?) χρονια να ερθει και στην Ελλαδα. 😛Θα ερθει βασικα καποια στιγμη σίγουρα, ίσως και πιο νωρίς.

  • @Komodokhan148
    @Komodokhan148 Před 2 lety +6

    This was extremely insightful

  • @tarahskinner923
    @tarahskinner923 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Brilliant! Appreciating such scholarly chat! Thank you for sharing! WoW just WoW!

    • @franklylayer4313
      @franklylayer4313 Před 4 měsíci

      It feels amazing to know about psychedelics all thanks to this online store I was able to get some mushrooms and they got some lsd gummies cannabis xtc and another stuffs

  • @marcalvarez4890
    @marcalvarez4890 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Powerful guest. Powerful.
    Great. More of this please!

  • @mikefinn
    @mikefinn Před rokem +3

    Brian, thank you for your research and retained knowledge about paleoChristianity. So informative.

  • @sondorp
    @sondorp Před 5 měsíci +4

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:17 🌿 *Psychedelics in Classical Antiquity*
    - Author's 12-year search for scientific data on psychedelic ritual use in ancient Greece and Rome.
    - Exploration of written works from the 60s and 70s, lacking technology and hard scientific data.
    - Uncovering key pieces of data indicating ritualistic use of psychedelic beer in Iberia and psychedelic wine near Pompeii.
    02:21 🍷 *Psychedelic Infused Wine in Early Christianity*
    - Discussion on the potential role of psychedelic-infused wine in the life of Jesus Christ.
    - Analysis of ancient Greek language and the concept of wine as a mixed potion or "pharmacon."
    - Reference to early Christian texts and the use of wine as a sacrament with divine significance.
    05:11 📜 *Language and Perception of Wine*
    - Examination of language's impact on perception, focusing on the ancient Greek word "oinos" and "pharmacon."
    - Highlighting the use of the term "pharmacy" to describe wine and its role in ancient Greek thought.
    - Connection between language, perception, and the understanding of wine in religious and ritual contexts.
    08:02 🌐 *Dionysus and the Mysteries*
    - Exploration of the role of wine, specifically the sacramental wine, in the mysteries of Dionysus.
    - Discussion on how consuming the sacramental wine was seen as becoming one with the god Dionysus.
    - Insight into the ancient Greek understanding of enthusiasm, being filled with the spirit of the god.
    11:45 🍇 *Jesus and Dionysus Parallel*
    - Analysis of parallels between Jesus and Dionysus, emphasizing the use of symbolism and miracles.
    - Reference to the Wedding at Cana in the Gospel of John and its potential connection to Dionysian rituals.
    - Interpretation of the continuity from pagan traditions, like the mysteries of Dionysus, into early Christianity.
    Made with HARPA AI

  • @zboys4586
    @zboys4586 Před měsícem +1

    Nice conversation . Thanks.

  • @huntuhhh
    @huntuhhh Před 2 lety +18

    I listened to his JRE pod on acid staring at the sky… glad to see he’s here now 🤘🏼

  • @LOVESPACEDREAMS
    @LOVESPACEDREAMS Před 2 lety +196

    I like how he refers to the 12 apostles as "a dozen or so, illiterate day labourers that go on to convert the empire in a few hundred years".

    • @JoJoJoker
      @JoJoJoker Před rokem +12

      It’s always refreshing to hear people who are plain-spoken. Wine is just rotting grapes. Compared with mushroom wine, alcohol wine is basically just poisonous nasty grape juice.

    • @deadhole5743
      @deadhole5743 Před rokem +12

      If you read Mary's story you would see that see was mad at all the apostles because they built churches! That was not Jesus will. They messed a lots of his teaching up because of ego

    • @marvellous9652
      @marvellous9652 Před rokem +1

      @@deadhole5743 Where exactly can you read "Mary's Story"? This sounds interesting

    • @deadhole5743
      @deadhole5743 Před rokem +1

      @@marvellous9652 it's called the gospel of Mary :) you can find it online n.n

    • @zachster6862
      @zachster6862 Před rokem +20

      @@deadhole5743 the Gospel of Mary is non canonical and believed to have been written 200 years after Mary’s life and death. That being said i would not say that the Gospel of Mary is a good resource for seeing what Mary believes.

  • @matthijsvanemous7046
    @matthijsvanemous7046 Před rokem +8

    interesting how you constantly talk about the greek translations of the gospels but never about the aramaic texts that predate the greek texts

    • @sethfarmer590
      @sethfarmer590 Před rokem +1

      The original language of the New Testament is Greek.

  • @joseiraheta5622
    @joseiraheta5622 Před rokem +1

    In the gospel from Luke, chapter one talks about a wine condition for the birth of John the Baptist. A part of the story says how this baby is to “...never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born.” All familiar wording of wine. Also within that story and chapter it does talk about visions since they say in the video of “not unpleasant visions.” May God Bless his people.

  • @SavageHandle
    @SavageHandle Před měsícem +1

    Lex should make his way to the magic source as soon as possible. He can be quite dull at times, but let's hope this adventure brings out his more exciting side!

  • @johnwalterrautenbach1921
    @johnwalterrautenbach1921 Před 2 lety +11

    Matthew 26:29 - I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

  • @jarrettjb
    @jarrettjb Před rokem +10

    It seems Jesus demonstrated his authority over the demonic power of Dionysus by doing the water into wine miracle.

  • @danbowman9294
    @danbowman9294 Před rokem +2

    If the spiked wine contained henbane or nightshade, the correct dosage would be crucial. Those are very dangerous plants.

  • @SoulForty5Music
    @SoulForty5Music Před 2 lety +4

    Drinking the "Blood of Dionysus" as a sacrament sound eerily familiar to Catholic's Eucharist ceremony.

  • @Botanifiles
    @Botanifiles Před 2 lety +9

    Anyone know how to get in touch with this guy? My dad published a book on this in 2011. He spent over 30 years compiling this research. They would have a lot to talk about.

    • @rickymatovu867
      @rickymatovu867 Před 2 lety +2

      May I ask what the name of your father's book is?

    • @Botanifiles
      @Botanifiles Před 2 lety +2

      @@rickymatovu867 The Anointed Ones

    • @zicethmendoza4407
      @zicethmendoza4407 Před 2 lety +1

      Maybe try sending him a message on his social platforms??

    • @jacobdines6370
      @jacobdines6370 Před rokem +3

      I’m going to buy this book now, thank you

  • @dbmail545
    @dbmail545 Před 2 lety +5

    Alegro showed in his book a painting in the catacombs of Adam and Eve flanking the Tree of Knowledge which is depicted as an Amanita Muscaria mushroom.

  • @jerrybarr3354
    @jerrybarr3354 Před rokem +10

    Psychedelic beer? Yes please 🙏😍

  • @jonathanlivingston7358
    @jonathanlivingston7358 Před rokem +7

    So the Christian communion was a ritual where you’d drink wine mixed with psychedelics to have a collective psychedelic experience to get in touch with God. Very interesting. I wonder if they put something in the bread too. It’s interesting that Jesus’ words are “continue to do this ritual in remembrance of me.” In indigenous circles a similar type of ritual still occurs however with a different type of psychedelic base. You go to the shaman who let’s you drink from a bowl and then you have a collective psychedelic experience.

    • @living_in_revelation
      @living_in_revelation Před 8 dny

      Read the psychedelic gospels. It was not bread and the wine wasn't alcohol

  • @theelephantofsurprise8564
    @theelephantofsurprise8564 Před 2 lety +14

    In Ancient Greek theater they kept violence off-stage...if people were tripping balls that would make sense.

    • @brettbarreras48
      @brettbarreras48 Před 2 lety +3

      I think the masks would send me over the edge way before the violence lol

  • @PaulWallification
    @PaulWallification Před 2 lety +8

    Of COURSE it’s impossible to understand the New Testament without the background of Greek antiquity. That’s why we have actual scholars. You compare the literature or you’ll never understand the literature. I wish more people were with it (I’m talking about Christians and also about people bent on looking up a verse to disprove the Bible).

  • @g00zik97
    @g00zik97 Před rokem +2

    very important part i think missed here is that conversion of water into wine and wine being the blood of Jesus is a very important part of traditional christian mass. its actually the pivotal part of catholic mass, not sure about the other masses, but the idea of conversion of bread and wine into flesh and blood of christ is one of the most important secrets of christianity.

  • @nitifese4528
    @nitifese4528 Před 2 lety

    The image on the thumbnail is from an amazing song on spotify called "Clairovoyer" from "Random Lab"

  • @co9productions
    @co9productions Před 2 lety +6

    I wonder if these were mixed with wine in such prevalence because they worked in conjunction with the psychedelics and/or because the fermentation process would sanitize water making it much safer in that time.

    • @MP-tj5xv
      @MP-tj5xv Před 2 lety +5

      The official anthropological explanation is the later, plus it made it nutritious at the same time. Regardless, animals in general, not just humans, have been getting drunk on fermented fruit for EVER.

  • @petecabrina
    @petecabrina Před 2 lety +15

    Carl Ruck deserves a shout out for that stock picture of himself.

    • @db_cio
      @db_cio Před 2 lety

      Lol hell yeah xD

  • @warsmurf114
    @warsmurf114 Před rokem +2

    I’m upset the topic was changed after madness was described as a state of mind. There’s so much to dig into there. Consuming divinity essentially was someone becoming an archetype and madness is a very powerful example of that

    • @aeriagloris4211
      @aeriagloris4211 Před rokem

      If you're interested in this subject specifically, madness, you should pick up a very special book called Jonathan strange & Mr norrell.

  • @parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078

    Oh my God, that's an amazing take! It totally makes sense😮.

  • @pepelemoko01
    @pepelemoko01 Před 2 lety +6

    Advertisements for psychedelic beer were found around early Christian times, the Sator square.

    • @Rawdiswar
      @Rawdiswar Před 2 lety +1

      Tenet?

    • @samsungtelevision695
      @samsungtelevision695 Před 2 lety

      Can I get some more details on that? Psychedelic beer is calling me

    • @pepelemoko01
      @pepelemoko01 Před 2 lety

      @@samsungtelevision695 SATOR
      AREPO
      TENET
      OPERA
      ROTAS
      Found on early Christian churches, but many think it is older.

  • @NormalStudios
    @NormalStudios Před rokem +7

    I want psychedelics become legalized and readily available, as an artist there are limitless possibilities. I’m in favor of movie theaters or playhouses that encourage the audience to trip while watching

  • @OpenSourceCitizen
    @OpenSourceCitizen Před 2 lety +2

    amazing work

  • @DamienMcKinnon
    @DamienMcKinnon Před 2 lety +1

    Anyone see the striking resemblance at 8:50 of the wine glass Dionysus is holding and an Amanita Muscaria mushroom in the upturned stage of its life? Maybe that's a cryptic clue linking the god of wine with the god of drugs/psychedelics...

  • @nicklausbrain
    @nicklausbrain Před 2 lety +4

    I think that argument for psychedelic Christianity is missing larger context, and description of early Christians themselves.
    Indeed they did fall into trance and it is described explicitly in Acts and by Paul BUT you do not have to use wine for it.
    Remember that wine mixed with water was likely a common drink like just a water today, since it was not as likely to spread infection.

  • @damminers49
    @damminers49 Před 2 lety +9

    Why are the early disciples always mentioned as illiterate, that’s simply untrue.

    • @johnwheeler1733
      @johnwheeler1733 Před 2 lety

      they were simple fishermen or laborers. no one who held jobs like that spent any time being educated. they learned from their fathers. illiterate sounds bad but it just means certain things haven't been shown to you yet, doesn't mean you wouldn't understand it

    • @dbmail545
      @dbmail545 Před 2 lety +2

      Matthew was a Publican, a tax collector. Hardly an illiterate man and the author of one of the gospels.

    • @damminers49
      @damminers49 Před 2 lety +2

      @@johnwheeler1733 most were literate because of the Torah. Matthew was a tax collector, hard to be one when illiterate. Bartholomew was a scholar and had royal blood, royal family was almost always literate.

  • @danielkyle2281
    @danielkyle2281 Před 11 měsíci

    You should look into Soma and cannabis. The eucharist is practically Soma

  • @UndeadOutLaw68
    @UndeadOutLaw68 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The fact alone of Jesus being born in a manger and where large herbivores where living witch psychedelic mushrooms grow in the manure of makes a pretty compelling case

  • @fandude7
    @fandude7 Před 2 lety +7

    In the Old and New Testament drunkenness and use of drugs were seriously prohibited. A sober and pure mind and physical abstinence of sexual behavior (outside of marriage) were encouraged. The Jews and early Christians had extremely high standards of moral behavior. Drinking spiked/drugged wine etc is far from their rituals or moral code that they fanatically followed.

    • @Mannyr-bu7qv
      @Mannyr-bu7qv Před 2 lety +2

      Although this may be true, modern day priest molest little boys and other atrocities occur in religious groups. To say things were prohibited hundreds of years ago means nothing. In my opinion anything is possible when it comes to religious history.

    • @fandude7
      @fandude7 Před 2 lety

      @@Mannyr-bu7qv Yes,even today molesting children is still prohibited by every religion. Not sure your point.

  • @mackychloe
    @mackychloe Před 2 lety +5

    Didn't the ancient Egyptian's get there first with Blue Lotus wine?

  • @diraziz396
    @diraziz396 Před 2 lety +2

    Great talk. Thanks

    • @christinstorm2526
      @christinstorm2526 Před 2 lety

      I loved this! Thank you both, excellent
      peace.out
      🇳🇴!

  • @TheSimonMarley
    @TheSimonMarley Před rokem

    Lex, please, do a podcast with John Pilger!!!

  • @danielpaulson8838
    @danielpaulson8838 Před 2 lety +12

    Turning water into wine is suddenly a high functioning metaphor. Now if we can just get a few extra baskets of fish sticks and hush puppies for the munchies.

    • @danielpaulson8838
      @danielpaulson8838 Před 2 lety

      @@Novastar.SaberCombat I’m a fan of the idea that things are real. No supernatural and no magic potions.
      Water into wine would have meant bs into reality and is something terrestrial.
      Many people today turn wine into water.

    • @jaroslavcech225
      @jaroslavcech225 Před rokem +1

      Imagine Jesus was just some bloke who knew couple of tricks, one day he turns water into wine and kicks off the whole Christianity thing :D

    • @wowser44
      @wowser44 Před rokem +1

      Funny af tho

  • @calebsmith1899
    @calebsmith1899 Před 2 lety +4

    You gotta have Steven Bancarz on now

  • @sadjeebis
    @sadjeebis Před rokem

    Lion's Mane Mushroom extract. What do you know about this mushroom and have you heard of it's cognitive benefits, among other miraculous-seeming other anecdotes?

  • @Terminator550
    @Terminator550 Před rokem

    You need to get Dr. Michael Heiser on your podcast to discuss about God and Jesus Christ.

  • @eugeniaberdali9711
    @eugeniaberdali9711 Před 2 lety +28

    Interestingly in Eleusis wine was prohibited (in fact by Demetra herself) whether οινος or pharmakon. So ancient Greeks called wine Oinos and not pharmakon. Instead of the word pharmakon they used the word krama to mean wine mixed with water. So oinos is pure wine. Krama it is mixed with water. Pharmakon must be used later and closer to the Christian era. Madness is not what you are describing. It is overwhelming inspiration. Homer himself comes to such a stage. But he was not under psychedelics. You are sort of equalizing terms and effects and although it is an interesting video, you are misleading. They also would not drink the blood of Dionysos. Wine was not his blood but his essence. He was the wine and this is also why Christ appears as the "vine".

    • @johnwill8467
      @johnwill8467 Před 2 lety +1

      Nicely put. Thanks for the clarification. As usual, people see what they want to see - hear what they want to hear.

    • @matteyas
      @matteyas Před rokem +1

      How do you know that he was not on drugs? Regardless of that specific instance, there's no point in discussing linguistics any longer. We know they were on drugs:
      "Ancient wine was frequently combined with other substances, including what we would today call “recreational drugs.” The surviving textual record offers ample proof of this but, as classicist Carl A. P. Ruck and a handful of others discovered, purely textual evidence was easy to dismiss or, worse, simply ignore. Now, however, the latest techniques of archeological analysis have *confirmed the presence of other intoxicants in Greek wine,* to the point it is simply incontrovertible."

    • @DetectiveTrupo203
      @DetectiveTrupo203 Před rokem

      Sorry, you are incorrect. You don't know what you're talking about

  • @thecasualgamer2011
    @thecasualgamer2011 Před rokem +3

    I would like you to fact check the translation of the Greek “wine” in the New Testament as pharmacon. Because in Galatians Paul speaks of the works of the flesh and pharmacon also known as sorcery or witchcraft, was prohibited by the church and was considered a sin.

  • @WishfulCreation
    @WishfulCreation Před 2 lety

    I'm confused about the "the bacchanal of the andrians" painting. Where is the river of wine?

  • @timmoraru5245
    @timmoraru5245 Před měsícem +1

    What a beautiful soul sharing

  • @SuperMortiki
    @SuperMortiki Před 2 lety +16

    Just a simpleton like me and his opinion is that psychedelics played a very large role in religion in general and if it wasn't for mushrooms and psychedelics some religions wouldn't even be in play

  • @elrhyesseyhrle8958
    @elrhyesseyhrle8958 Před 2 lety +7

    Connotation and denotation, etymology matters. I had the fortune of living with an Israeli family many years ago and the father loved to debate differing opinions on the bible. He often took up with a friend,of his, who was four square, I think, and invited me into the conversations one night. The four square fellow could not understand why because of his preconceived ideas of a woman's place...go figure. It gave me perspective on time(bc and up) and place(middle east) and language usage(not western connotation) from a person who was fluent in 5 languages. Super interesting conversations on Greek meanings and Hebrew translations, or visa versa if you get my drift. Idioms have always been a hobby of mine and some of the older middle eastern ones are great!

  • @kimryen3270
    @kimryen3270 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @nihilitas0
    @nihilitas0 Před 2 lety +2

    "escaping a life of suffering" Thumbs up. Give me the wine!

  • @michaelalexander3001
    @michaelalexander3001 Před 2 lety +48

    A Christian isn't surprised when echoes of Dionysus appear in the Christian story. Same with Apollo, Zeus, Hermes, Athena, or whomever. The whole point of Christ is that He is All in All. While these Greek deities each highlight a particular human strength, Christ is the fulfillment of all good things.

    • @michaelalexander3001
      @michaelalexander3001 Před 2 lety +1

      ​@Marty McK Will do

    • @moonman6113
      @moonman6113 Před 2 lety +1

      It battles today. Some people work where they like as they are best at what they do they also enjoy doing it. Then you have people hating their job but its good pay so they continue to do it even if they suck its the money they get.. seems like this problem has been around even back then. 😅😂 can correlate that individualism and centralism able to do all hating it and decentralism where if you are good at that do that dont do what you suck and hate.

    • @religionishipocrisy
      @religionishipocrisy Před 2 lety

      @@moonman6113 your reply makes absolutely no sense given the context of the original post you were responding to ... It's incoherent, meandering, seemingly off topic, and I'm loving every bit of it. 😂

    • @supernovasupernova4289
      @supernovasupernova4289 Před 2 lety

      More like an alien with higher levels of consciousness and spirituality.

    • @thedeviousgreek1540
      @thedeviousgreek1540 Před 2 lety +3

      Of course a christian shouldnt be surprised by this. After all, the christian story is just a combination of other religions especially greek and egyptian. The story, the mysteries, almost everything actually has been found on text long before christ.

  • @Johnny1.0
    @Johnny1.0 Před 2 lety +9

    I heard Mary Magdalene had the cleanest acid in Jerusalem.

  • @mattm6178
    @mattm6178 Před rokem +1

    great clip

  • @ChairmanSteel
    @ChairmanSteel Před 20 dny

    Christianity makes *so* much more sense with a psychedelic component. The church is a safe space for the community to gather and listen to stories while surrounded by colorful imagery, the clergy are professional trip sitters, the sacrament is your dose, it sounds like a pretty good time.

  • @matthewvanwyhe1498
    @matthewvanwyhe1498 Před 2 lety +7

    There was a concept of fermented wine. No historian would deny this.

    • @SavageHenry777
      @SavageHenry777 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, he's just saying the concept of alcohol as the distinct common active ingredient in different beverages may not have been known.

    • @subspaceanomaly
      @subspaceanomaly Před 2 lety +3

      @@DC-lf5po pour me a glass!

  • @champgainz174
    @champgainz174 Před 2 lety +7

    We are looking at the wrong paintings of Jesus

    • @champgainz174
      @champgainz174 Před 2 lety

      @@DC-lf5po the docu a watched on davinchi said he painted Jesus the way of what his lover looked like but of course the Catholic Church doesn’t like gay even tho look at their own news... plus my dads middle eastern and very dark not this olive tan Italian

  • @davidwalker8319
    @davidwalker8319 Před 9 měsíci

    Would lex be lex if he did his interviews in a t shirt

  • @avgroupltd3481
    @avgroupltd3481 Před rokem

    He deserves a Nobel for this work!

  • @oiitzME1266
    @oiitzME1266 Před 2 lety +4

    2:18 Lex looks like a gangster whenever he does the slight lean back on his chair as he utters some words in a subtle yet suspensful manner

  • @OfficialNattyOrNot
    @OfficialNattyOrNot Před 2 lety +6

    There was also the journals of the Pharisees who saw Jesus to his death. They never even denied the miracles he was performing, but instead talking about them and saying it was the work of the devil.

  • @fritzco55
    @fritzco55 Před rokem +1

    There may be more credence to these ideas (that states of awareness and ideas were uncovered through wine and/or the possibilities of psychedelics) if the new testament scripture did not state "Do not be drunken in excess".
    I do love the idea of stretching the imagination and examining the scriptures. I personally believe that the biblical ideas were true, and consisted of a truth more solid than what is in the physical realm. I believe Jesus was in touch with the deepest levels of these truths, that he could walk on these truths like water. That he could unravels the depths of truths so far that it would be as if the clarity of the truth went so deep you were drunken with this absolute tastiest wine (turn water in to wine). If he was the Word (the truth) wrapped in flesh, then could he not become lighter than a feather.
    Why does the word light have a meaning of being less weight and also illumination. If we turned our eyes to him and became totally enlightened could we also ascend towards the heavens as he did? Peter was able to walk on the water...

  • @hithere748
    @hithere748 Před rokem +2

    I tried shrooms ,and one time when I tried them the thought of god popped in my head, and my thoughts went out of control I started going crazy.

  • @vbzstealth8667
    @vbzstealth8667 Před 2 lety +54

    Lex please invite William Lane Craig on for the other side of this stuff. He’d love this sorta professional debate.

    • @timetravlin4450
      @timetravlin4450 Před 2 lety +5

      Yes that would be interesting!

    • @Pyryp2
      @Pyryp2 Před 2 lety +9

      Only one narrative allowed here.

    • @servingandswerving4106
      @servingandswerving4106 Před 2 lety +7

      Yes please!!!! Then you would know he isn’t just one sided and controlled media. Let the REAL CHRISTIANS SPEAK

    • @trip4923
      @trip4923 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Pyryp2 He proved himself as unable to have a professional debate long ago.

    • @Pyryp2
      @Pyryp2 Před 2 lety +1

      @@trip4923 Who?

  • @jasonbaade
    @jasonbaade Před 2 lety +6

    All the great minds giving interviews at the same mic. That mic screen is like a DNA timecapsule for some of the greatest thinkers of our time. Preserve it and we can one day bring back their clones.

  • @Ccm_demo
    @Ccm_demo Před rokem

    “Madness is seen like a positive thing, a journey?”

  • @AtypicalPaul
    @AtypicalPaul Před 2 lety +2

    Very interesting

  • @curiousdog9672
    @curiousdog9672 Před 2 lety +7

    A better translation of the word "Farmako" is the word "Medicine". In Greek we only use the word drug for very addictive substances.

    • @Mk-qt2bl
      @Mk-qt2bl Před 2 lety +1

      In american the call medicine drugs

    • @bandolierboy1908
      @bandolierboy1908 Před rokem

      What doesn’t make sense is that according to this video, apparently Christians used psychedelic wine yet at the same time in the Bible were told to not partake in sorcery which is pharmakeia. I’m so lost

  • @KM-tj9hd
    @KM-tj9hd Před 2 lety +7

    I had a weird vision of Jesus on a heroic dose. It wasn't him on a rock preaching or anything. He was on the ground moving like he was having a seizure. No one was around him. He was looking straight up which is where I observed this from and just twitched. I was told what it meant by whatever talks to you but I still don't know how to put it in words.

    • @bradleyrosett2184
      @bradleyrosett2184 Před 2 lety +7

      Pray about it my guy. Genesis 1-27 “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them”
      You are but a reflection. Much love

    • @bradleyrosett2184
      @bradleyrosett2184 Před 2 lety +3

      Make that reflection what you want it to be

    • @KM-tj9hd
      @KM-tj9hd Před 2 lety +3

      @@bradleyrosett2184 Thank you sir

    • @sule2318
      @sule2318 Před 2 lety +1

      Not surprised. Perhaps it’s not an evil dream as you may assume at first. Perhaps the meaning behind it is to tell u the muslim belief. That Jesus peace be upon him, the messiah son of Mary is no more than a prophet of god, a man from amongst us chosen by god, born from Virgin Mary. We don’t believe him to be God.

    • @klaus2913
      @klaus2913 Před rokem +2

      @@sule2318 God is everyone and everything to me honestly. I am not a Christian, nor a Muslim, but when thinking about the fact we are built up from the most basic materials in this universe, and the fact the universe is everything and can be considered “God” it would mean we are God, and God is us. It is more of a Buddhist way of thinking, and I tend to go towards that direction.

  • @porteal8986
    @porteal8986 Před rokem

    so how does this mesh with st. Paul specifically prohibiting pharmakeia?

  • @Jell0cat
    @Jell0cat Před rokem +1

    Lex is like the 90s Leo DiCaprio version of science 🧬

  • @JoshuaPatrickGarrett
    @JoshuaPatrickGarrett Před rokem +4

    So they want the Scriptures to be a product of pharmakeia rather than the Word of God, and even Jesus as a mere intoxicated man.

    • @StatiCRjm
      @StatiCRjm Před 10 měsíci

      Exactly, the modern man only understands what resonates with them and nothing more

    • @AmiteshMukherjee20
      @AmiteshMukherjee20 Před 2 měsíci

      Isn’t a religious person doing just that too?

    • @JoshuaPatrickGarrett
      @JoshuaPatrickGarrett Před 2 měsíci

      @@AmiteshMukherjee20 As if the drug-taker seeking nirvana and transcendence isn't religious.

    • @fakename5308
      @fakename5308 Před 2 měsíci

      @@StatiCRjm The irony of your comment is embarrassingly hilarious

    • @StatiCRjm
      @StatiCRjm Před 2 měsíci

      @@fakename5308 and you didn't expound on why.

  • @e.o9470
    @e.o9470 Před 2 lety +3

    Absinthe is what i use before rituals 😂

  • @EatPsilocybin
    @EatPsilocybin Před 2 lety +1

    The sacred mushroom and the cross- John marco allegro

  • @Ed.Focuss
    @Ed.Focuss Před rokem

    Lex for president!

  • @PaulWallification
    @PaulWallification Před 2 lety +6

    So mass hallucinations happen from psychedelics?

    • @DvitusR
      @DvitusR Před 2 lety

      How do you come to that conclusion?

    • @PaulWallification
      @PaulWallification Před 2 lety +1

      @@DvitusR Is that not the implication? That they mass-hallucinated Jesus’ resurrection?

    • @DvitusR
      @DvitusR Před 2 lety

      @@PaulWallification no hahaha jesus himself barely has anything to do with it, read the book or a longer podcast, Jordan Peterson has a good one with Brian, the implication is much more complicated and profound than that.

    • @PaulWallification
      @PaulWallification Před 2 lety

      @@DvitusR Ok, care to summarize the heart of what he’s saying/suggesting?

  • @rmccluskey91
    @rmccluskey91 Před 2 lety +16

    Highly recommend reading the book "Jesus Lived in India"... I won't go into detail here because I'd have to write an essay and it would not do it justice anyhow. The author suggests that when Jesus was crucified a roman soldier soaked a sponge in some sort of vinegar or wine substance and held it to his face as that was a religious custom. As the bible says, it was at this point the holy ghost left his body he was pronounced dead. The author of the book goes on to discuss in detail how certain plants were imbued into wine and some of them would essentially cause one to go into a comatose state for multiple days and appear dead. Assuming that is what happened, Jesus was taken down from the cross while still alive. After a few days, Jesus recovered and went on to live out his life traveling and preaching throughout Asia because he was forced to flee persecution in Israel.
    Highly recommend reading this book... it blew my mind.

    • @rmccluskey91
      @rmccluskey91 Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@DC-lf5po I certainly see your point but I also think the entire story, history, and religion surrounding Jesus and Christianity has been ruined by 2000 years of corruption, lies, and false interpretation.

    • @rmccluskey91
      @rmccluskey91 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DC-lf5po The amount of evidence that Jesus not only lived, but spent a majority of his early and later life in India is IMO undeniable. Highly recommend you read "Jesus Lived in India" with an open mind and then tell me that there's no record of his life. I think much of the record of his life has been hidden by the church as a means of manipulation. It wouldn't look to good for the Vatican if people started to realize Jesus was a preaching Buddhism.

    • @ZackTewolde
      @ZackTewolde Před 2 lety +3

      Man, how bad do people not want Jesus to exist. The more reason to believe he does.

    • @b-manz
      @b-manz Před 2 lety

      The reason why it is not popular is that scholars don’t agree it is correct. Fools believing this trash.

    • @ZackTewolde
      @ZackTewolde Před 2 lety

      @@DC-lf5po I guess you're the enlightened one. To call Christianity is a cult? Go figure the logic.

  • @dallasINtokyo
    @dallasINtokyo Před 2 lety +2

    What is his hair doing?

  • @PutriOddity
    @PutriOddity Před rokem

    I thought it was common knowledge that wine of ancient times was not purely wine? I enjoyed the in depth analysis though

  • @theadministers3533
    @theadministers3533 Před 2 lety +5

    The first miracle was water to wine and it is simple to perform. It is also a reference to DMT dammit.
    Piezoelectric stimulation of the pineal gland causes the endocrine system to manufacture DMT aka milk and honey of the promised land. We communicate with the creator in the theta mental state, to be carried to delta is bliss, carried into gamma is the fantastic voyage.

  • @dalentces2492
    @dalentces2492 Před rokem +4

    Guess discussing psychedelics in scandalous topics is how Lex tries to tap that Rogan audience. What I see is influence of one ancient religion over the myths and dogma of a newly created one, which is nothing out of ordinary as that has happened countless times throughout history. Seeing how it's an isolated case (only one of the Gospels mentions the feast and the water-to-wine miracle), I seriously doubt the role of wine went beyond symbolic, ritualistic connection borrowed from older religions.
    The problem here is Lex' guest looks at wine through the lens of psychedelics and how they connect to religious experiences and misses the wider picture that's right in front of him: *both bread and wine were ritually consumed in ancient times by different peoples, including the Greeks no less*. Ritualistic consumption of bread was a part of their harvest rituals. As far as I'm aware, bread has no hallucinogenic properties... maybe not everything in human history revolves around psychedelics after all?

    • @internetenjoyer1044
      @internetenjoyer1044 Před rokem

      right. Also the eucharist is foreshadowed pretty heavily in the OT, a lot of these people jump on Greek mytery cults for explanations when these were Jews who were intellectually and spiritually connected to the Old Testament and Jewish tradition. Almost everything in the NT recalls something from the Old, but it's less work and more excitement to attribute everything to psycadelics

  • @chilltime4878
    @chilltime4878 Před 2 lety +1

    Im reading Immortality Key now. Good shit!

  • @think4two
    @think4two Před 2 lety +1

    Research Lotus plant in Egypt