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A BRUTAL KILLER COUPLE - Fred West & Rose West
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2021
- 25 Cromwell Street in Gloucester is an address which will forever be linked to the horrific crimes of Fred West and Rose West.This is where they sexual assaulted , murdered and buried most of their victims.
The crimes and killings they committed in this den of depravity were barbaric and sadistic. This couple of brutal killers are a classic case of folie a deux. Join me in my latest episode of True Crime where I take a deep dive into this horrific story. Em x
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I read Fred West daughter Ann Marie's book "Into the shadows" and it was a harrowing read, and cannot believe what that woman endured, but left me hopeful about the triumph of the human spirit, she is an amazing woman full of compassion and empathy for her family.
Thank you for your take on this infamous couple
I read that too and it was unbelievably horrific, even as far as sickos go.
Thank you, Ms.Kenny for giving the victims their due. In most cases, the Killers are infamous, but their victims are nearly forgotten, never seen as individuals with lives and dreams of their own. Naming each victim, in the manner you did, finally gave them their identities back. Kudos.
love the diligence she pays to the victims....
I couldn’t agree more. Especially since I began to watch this channel both my interest and feelings now lie entirely with the victims. They are infinitely more important and valuable than the inhuman humans who torment and kill them. If even to a small degree I feel and I mourn their loss after I listen to Emma describe who they really were. And most important of all I remember them. This channel has made a huge difference in changing my focus in my admitted fascination with true crime. And honestly I feel better and mentally healthier for that. So thank you Emma for really driving home where my emotions should be invested. It sure as hell isn’t Fred or Rose West.
I really do agree but I think that we should title these videos with the victims names, so we remember those not these evil people
I'm from gloucester. Walked down the alleyway of where their house once stood. My one auntie went to school and was friends with one of their sons. He later was arrested for CP or abuse of his own but like my mum said "Can't grow up in that house and come out normal". People always had suspicions of fred west apparently, it's why my auntie was never allowed to walk home by herself and my dad or their other siblings (10 year age gap between her and the next youngest) would pick her up from after school clubs.
Having watched you on a whole heap of tv shows for years, I’m so glad you have a CZcams channel. As someone that’s been abused as a child and a young adult, you’ve always brought me so much comfort and I feel like you just understand, all of it. Can’t wait to see how your channel grows, you’re such a star and you deserve every success!
I’m sorry about your abuse, it’s heartbreaking. Love, love, love to you.
@@joshb7300 thank you, that’s really kind of you to say! Lots of love for you too!!
My heart goes out to you due to the abuse you suffered. I am starting to think Emma is like a hug in a mug lol. I have suffered a number of traumas and yet listening to her makes things much clearer.
@@sianbeecham2825 "Hug in a mug." :) I'm American and have just discovered her. All I have to say is she seems like someone who is very nice and has all sorts of interesting stuff to say.
Sending you virtual hugs x sorry that you have been subjected to such abuse x
Having been a victim of abuse as a child i feel as though you completely understand those of us that do survive and turn out to be productive and loving caring members of society. I appreciate your emotion while telling these horrible stories. You are a hero and thank you for this channel💜
I've got to say Emma this the most in depth account of the West's story that I've ever come across. I've read 3-4 different books and seen many documentaries but this is the best, well done.
Dan Cummins of the podcast “Timesuck” just did a long episode on this charming couple.
the psychological aspect that she adds and the focus on their upbringing (nature/nurture) really adds something to the overall experience. These people give me nightmares, I can honestly say!
Yes.far more facts than ive heard before and i,ve read many books and articles about the wests.
Have you read “An Evil Love” by Geoffrey Wansell? Thats the best book out of the bunch, imo.
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Thanks for that. I just subscribed to his CZcams channel
The psychology behind true crime is so interesting and useful! Knowing things I've seen on shows like this have raised red flags that helped me avoid two very dangerous incidents in life. Thank you for the work you do and sharing this with us.
I am from Gloucestershire born & bred. This crime is why I stopped telling people that instead saying I'm from Bristol ! Got fed up with everyone talking about The Wests. Especially as the authorities knew there was issues for a long time with this family.
Hereford and Gloucester now isn’t it I’m in Hereford where are you? And Gloucestershire is a big area could be miles from actual Gloucester
Longlevens so Gloucester. I just remember back in the days that the whole West case broke. It was the first thing mentioned, when meeting people, that they would say if you mentioned Gloucester!!
Hi Emma I used to live in Gloucester at the time and have spoke to rose a couple of times I was 15 and used to babysit a couple of doors away and think myself lucky it was only twice I went there xx
Another one I’m not sure I can endure as I do kind of know the story and just as you said it took my breath away. But by god I’m going to try !
Do you know what above all persuaded the nurses to permit mass murderer Richard Speck to tie them up and convince them he meant them no further harm ? It was his soft and gentle Texas drawl. It’s incredible the tiny things which can gain a victims trust. Ed Kempers ‘Campus Parking’ sticker. Gary Ridgeways little boy. And now the accent of Richard Speck and Fred West. Or how about Jimmy Saville’s knighthood. Amazing.
So any thoughts on Patrick Mackaye Emma ? He seems like the British version of Charles Hatcher in that absolutely no one was safe around him. All that was needed to provoke their murderous instincts was that you be human and alive. Also I can’t find any information about him since he was locked up. I don’t even know if he’s alive or dead.
I have an interesting little story on Fred West. My mum was working for the probation service at the time of Fred serving some time in the Birmingham area, I can’t remember the exact year but it was after 1991 as my Dad had died that year. He used to sit around the hostel chatting to my mum telling her all about his large family and his building projects and extensions on his home! He was always asking the time so my Mums work colleague gave him one of her husbands old watches. I still remember my Mums face when not long after all this the news flashed up with Fred’s face on it and bodies being recovered from the house! 😳
Another sleepless night has been made more bearable due to having you around Emma. So I thank you for that. I am going back through your catalogue and even though I'm around on a Wednesday and Sunday watching and listening to you go over each crime more than once always gives another nugget to ruminate on.
I’v must’ve seen in excess of 15 programmes and documentaries on these pair , however Emma mentioned a load of things I didn’t know!!! 😱
I thought the exact same thing, she really has something special with this series
Came here for this comment 👏
Agreed she has a unique style.
I found this also 🤯
Same, didn’t think it could get any worse than what I already knew about this case. Truly horrific
Liked it before it starts just cos it's Emma Kenny and she's so good 👍
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@@confuzedpenguin9974 can you please show us where Emma has "denied covid"
Cos I can show you many examples where she has acknowledged the existence and danger of Covid, but also warning us of the dangers to the physical/mental health and well-being of everybody due to excessive Government overreach of lockdown etc
@@confuzedpenguin9974 she’s not
@@confuzedpenguin9974 she isn't a covid denier at all, but she has noticed as a forensic psychologist that gaslighting has been used as a tool to manipulate some of us. This is beyond refute, just look at it and read the academic research about this virus. All the information you need to make a decision is out there. You just have to mind your sources.
I think she's brilliant and I also share her views that I know of on covid
I read Inside 25 Cromwell Street. Written by Mai and Stephen West
Nature & Nurture definitely contributing to their development (ECT while Rose was unborn) and the motorcycle incident with Fred, adding further layers to their abusive and damaging childhoods to create them into the adults they became and the dangerous behaviours. Thanks again for presenting, really interesting
Also i live in Hereford I’v literally been past 25 Cromwell sooo many times whilst he must’ve been in there doing god knows what !! Goes to show you never know what’s going on behind closed doors!!! Hope this channel blows up! Especially during lockdown it could become a full time job hopefully 🙏
I use to live facing the street, horrid to think what was going on
Cromwell street is in Gloucester.
@@jhibberd6290 yeah, although I live on Eastgate Street
@@MrsKoala. I was responding to the person who said they lived in Hereford.
God bless the victims 🙏🏼
This case is so disturbing.
Gloucester never really got over it.
I had this video on in the background while I was tidying, within 15 mins I had sacked the cleaning and sat transfixed.
It's an incredibly detailed account, but I very much appreciate for going into the CORRECT details, not the horrible stuff but studying the monster's habits and red flags.
This is one of the most disturbing cases for me, I have read and watched true crime since I was a teenager. This is one of the cases that disturbs me the most. I didn't want to watch your video at first because it's hard for me to listen to. You have such great content and I respect you Emna so I'm finally watching. A book I read years ago still sticks with me ~Inside 25 Cromwell Street by Mae West & Stephen West~ it's very chilling reading. The horror of this case overwhelms me.
Alarming the number of chances for authorities to stop these vile monsters😔. Fantastic retelling of such traumatic crimes and done with empathy to the victims.
I walk through Cromwell Street every day, and although number 25 doesn't stand and there's an alley way. Which is frequented daily by alcoholics and drug user's it's still such a creepy place. I can't walk through the alley,it's like walking across there graves. Such a sickening story, especially for us Gloucester folk who live in the area.
Anna McFall is my mums cousin. My family were beside themselves until they found her body all those years later.
I am sorry you and your family had to suffer tho
Great show, love the insights into the mind-sets, the 'what', 'why' and 'how', of what made them like they were. Great work Emma, thank you.
Agrred!!! I feel like Emma really gets into the backgrounds which I think really adds to the stories
The random editing where your pictured from the side talking made me chuckle like it’s a tv show not CZcams :)
I loved that too :)
I love your ability to completely captivate your audience as well as showing so much caring and compassion for every victim you speak of. I came across your channel a few months ago and I have binged watched all of your videos.You tell these stories so differently than other true crime story tellers,in a way that I am addicted to watching you and can’t wait for your next video to be posted every week.Thank you for bringing light to every story you tell,the more we learn the better we can protect ourselves and our families.
The family conditions were dreamlike! Plus i love love love your Accent, always a joy listening to you
Emma is the one to explain better then anyone else ❤
Could agree more ❤️
THAN
I’ve enjoyed watching you since you did “Britain’s Darkest Taboos” on Netflix. I’m so happy you got your own Chanel you always got a fan here will always look forward to your next videos 🥰❤️
Loving your decision to start doing these case studies for CZcams. Brilliant!
A former work colleague of mine was related to him through marriage. Her Grandmother was Rina's sister. Her Grandmother and Mother had Xmas Dinner with him in Glasgow. 😱
You always give dignity and respect to the victims and scourn and hatred to the murders and I love your channel for that. Fred and Rose West have been done to death on nearly all channels and books with by just rehashing and without further research but I've learned 3 things i never knew in all these years thanks to your research and excellent video. 1 ▪︎ I never heard of that man Joe McClachlan ( I know I butchered the spelling of his last name ), I'm glad he beat Fred West . 2▪︎I never knew about the coffee shop The Green Latern or that Rose's father was part owner with them and 3▪︎ i didn't know that Caroline had died . Thank you so much for all your great informative videos
The One that gets to me the most is Charmaine... What that poor girl Went through.
Her unwavering belief that her mother would Come for her ... Heartbreaking
The very best documentary I've ever seen on these two monsters. You delved way deeper than I've ever seen while affording dignity to all involved , bravo 👏
That’s really nice to know Sabina. Thankyou. Got loads more to come . Em xx
Thanks so much for the incredible insights into this particular couple and their heinous crimes. I’ve seen documentaries about Fred and Rose West, over the years, but I’ve still discovered so much from watching this, thanks so much ❣️
Oh nooo didn’t know Caroline had passed away I seen all her interviews about them and she even said the time she nearly died was more at roses hands suffocating her, aw rip
You very much look like her
Big Fan of yours Emma. Brilliant work
This and the Moors Murders chill me to the bone. Out of all the true crime documentaries, podcasts, etc, that I've watched and listened to over the years these are the shiver-inducing ones for me. If hell is a real place then I can only hope these people are living in torment for the rest of their existence.
I really love your work Emma especially this true crime section. I have seen you on tv a number of times and I’ve always found you very knowledgeable and you explain things very well. I enjoy listening and learning to you very much...oh and I subscribed! Haha. Love to you and your family! Keep up the great content x
Without doubt the most informative, respectful and in-depth account I have ever come across. Thank you Emma, you did it again! x
Amazing breakdown of this horrible couple. I appreciate you not glorifying their crimes with unnecessary details. Your respect for the lives of the victims means everything.
He was never going to turn out to be great what shocks me the most is that he was at one point apparently considered “good looking” sorry but ...someone hold my hair back.... 🤮🤮🤮🥴🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢
Like Bundy ...🤮
probably before the accident.
Fred looks the image of his mum. No wonder he was her fav.
Been looking forward to this all weekend! Enjoy folks ❤️
I don’t know the schedule yet is it going to be one every week or something?
Fascinating as always. What creates people like this? It’s so hard to comprehend the magnitude of evil entwined within and around this pair. I remember this like it was yesterday ,so chilling. Thank you Emma for this incredible series 🙏🏼💜💜
Very engaging and interesting. Heard their story a great many times but not in such deep detail. Usually people focus on the acts as opposed to the cause. Very refreshing take on a terrible tale. 👏🏻❤️
I love the format you do these videos, keep em coming Emma , fascinating and interesting
Thanks JayJay ! Got many more to come. Em xxx
This is hands-down the most cogent exploration of this monster couple's history from a totally non-sensational, clinically informed psychosexual perspective that I've ever seen. Brava, Ms. Kenny.
I was afraid to watch this, but I trusted Emma to do it right, and she did 👍
I watch anything Emma is involved in that I can find. She's the best!!! Super excited about this channel.
I’ve been binging since I found you. One of the best things I have found about your content is that you don’t edit the shit out of it like all true crime YT’ers. Along with Your beauty, knowledge, and charisma.
Same here, just discovered Emma, and have been binge watching LOVE her way of reporting! Subjects are very disturbing, but, Emma has really done her homework on each case! 💚💚💚
Charmaine and her mum are now together away from all depravity and harm
So glad you started this channel! I've seen you on a multitude of crime shows in the past and always loved your
Voice 😍 and the insight you bring to each case!
I just love Sundays since finding Emma's channel. Ooooh a whole of hour of true crime. Thank you Em 🙏❤️
I've always wondered how many more victims there might be out there.
Awesome upload, instant sub-greetings from the north east!! 👍
"He left Glasgow and returned to the UK"
Scotland hasn't left the UK yet pal lol
Emphisis on 'yet'
And it won't
I thought Emma knew something we didn’t 😁
I think you’re amazing emma. You bring a moral compass and human heart to these atrocities. I really enjoyed this, thank you.
Omg I can’t wait .. I’m so loving your vids em .. 💪❤️
A friend of mine was a warder in the prison she was in. She stank and had to be told to wash. Also she tended to mouth off a lot.
You have a way of delivering a true crime story that no one else does. Most people who regularly watch true crime could tell you the story of the West's without hesitation, but you don't tell us what we already know, which is refreshing.
Personally, I think Fred's head injuries accentuated his depravity and Rose's childhood didn't do her any favours, but I think they were born bad and not mad. The level of macabreness was off the scale and I personally think that union was destined to be an atomic mushroom cloud of sadism, that very few could ever even begin to try to understand.
This makes me nervous to post this as you're soooo experienced and I'm only starting out in my OU Psycology course.
Once again, thankyou for your incredible content :-)
Just want to say..... this is the best channel on you tube and it should be on mainstream tv. Your passion is immeasurable! Please please please keep em coming because I’m binge watching at the moment and don’t want them to end. I am a baker and watch you whilst I’m working 👩🍳.
Why Thankyou. I’m glad you are enjoying. I have so many kore to come. Em xx
@@EmmaKennyTV Have you heard the crime story about Linda Riss Pugach? I find it fascinating! She was blinded by acid of some kind by her stalker boyfriend who she then went on to marry 🤔🤭x
@@EmmaKennyTV binge watching arm ❤
Wow!! Did not disappoint! I knew Emma Kenny would explain these two in a way we have never heard. TV documentaries can be vague. I'd love to see Emma Kenny have her own TV show. Amazing work! Keep the true crime coming, I'm hooked! ❤
Really enjoyed this Emma. Thank you so much for this. Sending you and everyone lots of love and hugs and wishing you a lovely and peaceful evening and goodnight's sleep xx
Really good that,Emma.Just watched it in bed after long night shift Now I'm going to watch your take on Aileen Warnos before I go to sleep!!
Your so right.. I was a 11 when this was all over the news. My dad would look at the news and get angry watching the audacity of these people. He didn’t show emotions at all but he was fuming. This was/still shocking and it still freezes my blood. Great vid xxx
I really Respect the way you speak up an tell the truth no matter what subject we can’t let government make our children believe that they are not free to become what Eva they can dream of I’m worried for the future an how are kids will see the world but brave speakers like u give me hope. Big up yourself PEACE!!!!
I ❤ emmas way of taking us through the story.
As someone with an interest in true crime I've seen a lot of docs but these are the best and most informative around. Keep up the fantastic work Emma
Its a strange coincidence these two should meet.
The fact that they met at a bus stop, which was a frequent hunting ground for later victims, makes me suspect that maybe he intended for her to be just another victim.
Really engaging and I agree, it was far more interesting to learn some genuinely interested facts that I hadn't heard over grisly details. You clearly have your personal feelings but present the information in straightforward way in an almost "storytime" style. This channel feels fresh👍🏾
I totally agree with you, I thought it was going to be another repeat of all the dous. I´ve watched about F&R West horrible saga. This was very interesting and a new angel into this appalling case. Well done Emma 👍
Sorry I did not meant angel, I meant anlge pardon me today I´m misspelling everthing.
Emma, I love listening to you! Your dry humour catches me unawares all the time and I often have a little giggle in the midsts of your stories of human deprivation.
Thanks Emma, brilliant video, i look forward to more xx
Unbelievably well done. This account is a credit to the victims.
Another great video Emma. It sets you apart that the focus is on the killers rather than the terrible things they did to the poor victims. We really get an insight into how the minds and crimes of people like this grow and become evil. Thank you for such an entertaining hour
Having to watch this is chunks because it's so terrifying. Maybe I'll come back to it one day x
Also you can tell emma has done her research and not just regurgitating off one source like some true crime channels do
Emmas true crime research is superb. So glad Ive found this channel.
@@pedrinhomatador1118 She's a dream.
Emma is credentialed. You can tell she worked hard to get where she is.
I think she did the basic research.
I've seen much better and from younger youtubers. With much less experience. She does the bare minimum and makes shit up as well.
Anyone who has researched this case can tell you everything she has said. Plus I don't know where she got the stuff about Charmaine being Sexually abused from. Considering no one has ever said that ever. It's speculation on her part certainly. No family members or police or anyone that knew the girl have ever said that. I've researched the case for years and never come across this. Because it's made up.
And if you dig deeper into the family dynamics you would see that it is very likely untrue. Considering Fred was racist in a sexual way. His eldest living mixed race Step child has talked about it. He never touched her. And his true daughters have said. He thought of them as his. Needing to be broken in.
I thought that Jimmy savile was awful, those two on a different level, so sad so many wrecked lives. Good crime channel, on the same level as that chapter, which is an excellent crime channel on CZcams.
That’s an insult to Emma! Don’t compare her to Mike lol, she is an expert psychologist with years of tv experience !! Come on
Emma I beg you please do the Moors Murders Ian Brady & Myra.
Another great analysis of a very disturbing series of events , can't believe Sky Crime has not signed Emma up
Emma is my mum and I’s favourite. She always adds so much to every documentary.
You must be very proud ❤
Hi Emma! I actually live near Gloucester even when they tore the house down was always a very foreboding feeling when passing. My partner's mum's bf actually grew up with the west children and had been in the house growing up.. so scary now knowing all that went on there
I really appreciate your approach to these cases. Not going into overly graphic detail. Which is kind to the victims and people listening like I who have had sexual abuse in my past.
Thanks Emma. I actually thought rose was dead. I had to google it. She's not so keen to meet up with her fred again then. Glad that house was flattened too. I heard the audio of his first police interview and he was so disconnected almost like he didnt know what all the fuss was.
This series has quickly become my favourite on CZcams
I love this ! Em xx
Emma, a couple of things.
At the height of The Evil Wests Killing Spree, I was a 14/15 year old girl from Merseyside. I had ran away from an abusive home and was hitch hiking on the Motorway, not a penny to my name, and was picked up by a lorry driver. He bought me a cuppa and a sandwich but said he couldn’t take me as far as London as his final stop was Gloucester. He let me out there, and I then had to hitch hike BACK to the Motorway to get another lift to London. (didn’t all us abused girls ‘Run Away’ to London!!) I COULD SO EASILY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE BODIES BURIED IN WEST’S HOUSE!!
Years later, and before the house was demolished, my daughter and I went to see it. We spoke to a man opposite, and nobody had had any idea, although they did think Fred odd.
That he hung himself before facing justice for his victims, shows you the EVIL of the Man. I heard Rose ‘turned to the Bible’ while incarcerated. NOTE TO ROSE: “WASTING YOUR TIME YOU EVIL PIECE OF SH…T!!!
Fred west's grandchildren go to my nephews school, his sons not allowed on the school grounds due to child offences how he's still allowed to keep children is beyond me
I was abused as my stepmum abused me and almost nearly killed me but my dad didn't help me and he didn't stop it he just looked away
Yay! Sumthing to look forward too
Yey! I've been waiting for this all day! I love you Emma! Your content is amazing! 🥰🥰
Feeling sick. My heart is broken for Sharman. Poor baby never stood a chance.
Charmaine *
@@reds1013 you're fun....
@@ifyousayso1466 you’re late
Amazing work as always Emma, the passion in your voice while describing things is second to none
Great video.. have always been fascinated by Rose and Fred West. Have learned so much more by this, despite difficult to absorb.
I had avoided listening to this one up till now Emma. I am actually so grateful you didn't go into the grisly horrific details of what the victims endured. I've heard stuff in the past about it which stayed with me, which is why I avoided this video but as usual you were a compelling storyteller and it was full of interesting details and perspectives.
This is going to be good. Love your videos Emma!
Really interesting series Emma x can see how much effort you’ve put into making these x
Thanks Lucy, I have been planning my crime stuff for a while now so its really nice to see everyone enjoying it. Em xx
I'm loving your true crime videos, you're the only person that brings something new to these stories that are told so often on CZcams
I guess that's the difference between someone with expertise and someone reading from articles and I mean no disrespect to any other creators but you're amazing
That’s a lovely thing to say Bethany. Thankyou. Em xx
All those children. That home must of been? I don't know? I cannot imagine
This episode was brutal! Had to stop it twice for physically being sick... Them poor children/women... What they must of went through i shudder to think about. Brilliant insight into the minds of people like that but also horrifying to know that there are people like that living amongst us....
The thumbnail with Rose, I thought was Joe Keery (Stranger things) with glasses
I don't think there is anything that I haven't watched/read about Fred & Rose West but You, Emma gave a detailed dialogue & I learnt new facts about the case!
My heart is broken for all of the children & ladies that suffered at the hands of these 2 monsters.
I have also watched all of yr True Crime videos & must say that U are 1 of the most compassionate, eloquent & beautiful Women I have seen!
I feel that I can relate to U on so many different levels.
Keep up the great work hun!
#QueenOfTrueCrime