Epyc Linux Performance: AMD 7763 and 75F3 Tested!
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Wendell always gets the cool stuff
Of course! He is a cool guy! ;-)
Send fucking Morpheus. I dont care what you call yourself. Get involved.
Programmers chop chop. You arent allowed to know the nuances of linux and not help the great work.
Gabe Newell died and Respawned for your sins.
Stop being lazy. I need non screenspace ambient occlusion pronto.
1936x1089 internal rendered off screens borders
1920x1080 actual pixel density centered cocked one pixel down since its an odd number.
2576x1449 gets cut off at borders
2560x1440 actual
3856x2169
3840x2160
Like what, less than 1% FOV is worth it in exchange for actually non screenspace limited raytracing. It gives the ambient occlusion and opposite geometry relevant glow some pixel estate to resolve more cleanly.
The ability to record the shit would also be a nice touch but isnt 1000% required.
Wendell is the technology Rain-Man. When he talks, I imagine billions of ones and zeroes flying around his head and equations flying through the air.
Es es
Thx for s-tui! And thank you for the review. I have no workloads to use it, but ohh boy, i would love to have one of those 2p setups with a few mi100...
thx again Wendell! I'm always happy to see Linux stuff
I work for a very large government department in Australia, I have finally convinced the right people to look at Epyc dell R7525s for a large guest cluster in our virtual environment. We have been running r740xd's to this point but we are limited by the core count for VM size. Looking forward to getting my hands on the new hardware..
Oh yes!
Exciting time to be alive.
Epyc! its more Linux stuff
I want an AMD care package as well! But AMD doesn't care about me :((
I know these are server CPUs, so of course they're going to be expensive.
But hot DAMN, does it make me realize that I'm not the richest person.
OS Wars are always interesting. Have you thought about MS SQL and other SQL performance battle. Maybe some other comparable benchmarks?
Is ms SQL even alive?
I want to see the 32 core none pro threadripper !
This is a joke, but maybe Massdrop would have the purchasing power to buy the gen4 optane, and then ship them to interested parties?
I haer cdw etc will sell them to you, but you might have to wait a bit
Like for Amdahl's law.
Also one thing to consider is that the general principle of Amdahl's law also applies to scale-out if you generalize from just threads to all time-consuming components of a workload, like storage and network IO as well. That's one of the things that make some of these processors very attractive for scale-up scenarios. Scale-up typically increases the individual cost components (or licenses), but reduces the component (and/or license) count, often bringing large gains in both energy and cost efficiency and circumventing or reducing dependency bottlenecks.
Also, I think a take-away here is that if any cost/core licenses are involved whatsoever, go for an F sku.
Will you upload your benchmarks to the website or forum?
One thing that would be interesting is to see lower chiplet count SKUs, as workloads that have heavy thread synchronization while not scaling massively parallell could benefit from that. And it could probably also reduce costs by not "cutting down" as many chiplets with still functioning cores. To meet demand better they could also do lower clocked low chiplet count value SKUs to increase their market share in the mid to low range of core counts, if production capacity is a limiting factor.
I know they want to keep their margins high, but i would imagine 4x CPUs of a 2 chiplet 16 core config would be more profitable than a 1x CPU of 8 chiplets 16 core config. Though maybe the IO die becomes a dominating cost and limiting factor at some point of scaling down the chiplet count. I'd still consider doing "dense" chiplet SKUs for 1-4 chiplets as value alternatives, plus high frequency versions of 1 and 2 chiplets for workloads that are thread sync bound and low parallellism, you could even jokingly call them Amdahl edition or something like that :P
That's why Linux - $480,000? NO WAY!!
thanks wendell
Love to see a Cinebench of this cpu
Best content
WHY DO WE ALLOW PER CORE LICENSING?
Masochism.
People who were more worried about RMS's toe cheese than the fact he was right.
Everyone "AMD stop please intel is already did!"
Lisa Su "Stop? I'm just getting warmed up here"
Nah, AMD is actually loosing market thanks to deficit.
Can you benchmark CockroachDB? Fully clustered with ACID transactions across nodes. Fully PostgreSQL driver compatibility. In fact you use the PostgreSQL driver to connect.
If you have 2 sockets can you mix the new EPYC CPU’s and clock them separately for performance vs. cores or can’t they be effectively sync’ed? Seems like having 16 or 32 performance cores for graphics, etc. with 64 parallel cores for rendering, etc. would be the bees knees in terms of serving the performance user.
Intel is gate-keeping Optane for Xeons in volume only maybe? Wouldn't be surprised at all.
That's the only good thing they got left
What is the max throughput you can get from all the PCIe ports with these architectures? Have you checked that?
Wait You have another channel? DUDE!
Nice.
Rambling was a lot of fun for you? Who woulda known 👀 Great overview though, even though I'm never buying these 🤣
Could you test it with Clickhouse?
Zen 3 Threadripper soon?
👏
I think Intel will be limiting the supply of second-gen Optane until they are really shipping Ice Lake Xeons to not give AMD the possibility of another extremely positive benchmark slide. Was under the impression that second-gen Optane by itself could have launched in 2020H1.
And hypervisors, not hyervisors - just a small detail :)
My IPMI is always open? I knew a girl like that once, she was very "friendly"
I bet
I'm pinging you for open ports.
Giggidy-hertz
How compare to the newest threadripper ?
I mean take this and the recent patent of Xilinx with AMD
*Big SHOOK*
So ... the price per watt is solved by AMD giving choice. Something Intel struggles with it.
Intel needs money to pay for all its commercial companies.
Excellent video - nothing like this anywhere. Most Epyc and Xeon users need to know how these perform on Databases (You should have lead with that in the title I think). Why don't other sites emphasize that. Ananndtech gives you way too much info only an CPU engineer would find interesting. Only 1% of is usful to DBAs and Software engineers making a living in SMB USA. This review was for the rest of us.
Finally got around to watching this through and couldn't look beyond how your mask appears to fold down to 3 dots Commander Wendell!
some of those charts scroll a fair way before you see blue ...
"It is going to be a little bit ..." Add any word you like.
Please try to bench the 64 core with multiple CockroachDB instances
I too want a care package. :-(
Does anyone know when will the epyc milan 7763 launch?
Also where's threadripper??
If only AMD would release 4 Socket servers. 16TB for in memory DBs. Currently have to use 8 Socket intel, the latency penalty due to intel only having 3 CPU interconnects is a killer in terms of performance
I don't understand why some companies won't use open source SQL.
75S3? That must be a typo.
Why sub on Patreon when you can sub on Floatplane?
Awesome CPU, hope it can finally run GTA 4 and Crysis at 60fps.
It really is time for some L4 cache
Stack SRAM on the I/O die?
@@WorBlux or GDDR6, 1GB+. Intel did 100M DRAM on one.
@@charlese2833 But it DRAM doesn't help as much as you might think. L3 latency is typicaly 10-15ns, and main memory latency is 90 ns. DRAM on chip is still in the 50-60ns range. An improvement, yes, but not that generally useful. Pairs well with some workloads, but often the die area is more useful elsewhere.
@@WorBlux When we had 2 dram channels for 4 cores L2 was fine. 2 channels for 8 cores L3 was fine. With 8 cores (16 threads) per channel it is easy to saturate esp. with AVX2 code
@@charlese2833 DDR5 should solve some of that.
engagement and stuff
Please install Gentoo on this beast!
-j 129 , - F ya!
Giggidy-hertz
"AMD is a relentless execution machine"... MAN I hope they manage to keep it up for long enough to create a proper balance in the market this time.
Does not matter while there is deficit of production power. Intel may release new shitty products and still beat AMD due to owning a lot of factories.
Can you do a video on this: czcams.com/video/R7CO9v9rpOk/video.html
Linus discovered that you can change performance just by changing ram dims with different one having different density.
I would love to see this in details with the Linux kernel tracing. Maybe you can collaborate with Linus/Anthony to figure this out.
best cpu you can buy for the money looks like AMD EPYC 7443P you get a server board with dual and you have faster machine then the most expensive Epyc ? No one is talking about it ?
Please include Threadripper 3960X and 2950X, and Ryzen 5900X benchmarks.
I can't wait to get two of these bad boys in an 8x 3090 server...that will cost $120K. Oh, wait, that's right, I can't even get ONE!
Next gen laptops at my university ... AMD. Makes me warm and fuzzy inside.
$480,000 for 64 cores of MS SQL??? WTF are people smoking? I it really worth it? Under what cirmumstances?
First...for the first time.
64 Painters, lol
*skews
Well, I’m sure Intel didn’t want to release faster Optane than would run in their top end systems, because that was their only advantage. Now that they finally have PCIe 4.0 capable CPUs, I’m sure it’ll be out there eventually, but I’m sure they know that even though they’re going to make money off of it to AMD users, I’m sure it’s going to be a tough pill to swallow because it will come at the cost of their other products as AMD CPUs edge further into the lead.
An OMI package of optane for POWER would be interesting as well.
mssql...yuk ;)
It has that ONE feature that keeps biting everyone in the ass: It lets you set permissions based on Active Directory objects at the individual table level.... Linux really really really need a 100% compatible AD, Exchange and MSSQL drop-in solution under the GPL....
@@andersjjensen no just no
@@Ormaaj I've worked corporate networks for a decade. The one thing management doesn't like to hear is "change your needs". So yes, I would REALLY like a solution on Linux that is completely compatible with Active Directory and Exchange. The license savings would be enormous. Same for SQL. You won't get management on board with switching away from Navision and whatever else they use client side that requires both TansactSQL (MS perversion of SQL) and AD integration... Just because it is boring as fuck to you doesn't mean that Big Dollar wouldn't be all over it... and ultimately that is what hinders the adoption of Linux. Active Directory with Group Policies and Exchange/ActiveSync is the brick and mortar of 99% of corporate networks, and fabricoubling something up as "replacements" doesn't work large scale.... We need a complete migration solution where you join Linux domain controllers to the network and phase out the MS ones, followed by a solution that can tell an Exchange server to migrate its mailboxes to this instance. And it need to be Exchange Online compatible for hybrid setups.... It is that simple.
@@Ormaaj "If you had any experience working with such systems you'd make ditching exchange a top priority." I do. 20 years of it.
And being a patronizing ass just stops the conversation right here with: "If you had any experience working with large corporations where management has a ruler up their ass and refuse to have people re-trained for anything new on the client side you'd stop talking out of your own."
Bottom line: Being able to support the entire M$ client software stack from Linux would be an enormously effective step in breaking the chokehold.
auto translate is italian. cosa?
I wish I got a care package from AMD - I need a new GPU...
Become a stockholder, i told people to buy it at 1.99 and look at it now. I dont own stock of AMD or work for them. Kind of obvious like IBM or Nvidia... not going away ever anytime soon for sure heh
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i'm looking at the beginning of this review and i'm confused (i'll edit this if it's resolved with the rest of the video)...
you seem overjoyed at a super expensive cpu turboing to ZOMG 4ghz yawn - my 3700x is at 4.2ghz right now. where's the ~300w 4.9ghz turbo model? the 5950x, which afaik is the same chiplet silicon is 3.4ghz with up to 4.9ghz turbo (with many users regular hitting it)
Also mssql!? is this the dark ages? can't you just stand up a mariadb server with reasonably arbitrary thread count for no additional licensing cost and link your m$ applications in via ODBC?
am I just asking for too much here?
32 cores at 4.0... not 8
@@WayStedYou the 5950x is 16 cores, spec says it turbos to 4.9, can be oc'd to 5thz in many cases. -you lose a ghz to double your core count!? doesn't seem right
@@Cpgeekorg Welcome to server world where you need a another 9 or two. Means you can't quite push it to the brink. Whereas a desktop crash doesn't mean much, a server crash might cost your a 10 million dollar contract.
A new, modern processor with only PCIe 4? Meh. Seems like a strange roadmap to release a new CPU now with the previous PCIe spec.