Sam Shamoun Teaching Heretical Works Based Salvation
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Sam Shamoun is a well know CZcamsr and apologist to Muslims. In many areas he has fantastic bible knowledge but in other areas he is really messed up. He used to be an evangelical Christian but now he is in the Orthodox Church and he believes all sorts of crazy stuff. But the most egregious belief he has is his works based gospel. He believes that we are saved by faith but he defines faith to mean "faithful obedience". This then makes a mockery of the gospel. Paul says we are saved by faith apart from works. But if faith means "faithful obedience" then all of a sudden we are saved by our own works. It makes no sense. - Zábava
James 2 video below here: czcams.com/video/D6kfZX-tkFY/video.html
Faith is believing the done cross works of christ.👉1 cor 15:1-4
God is One and ALONE
His name is JESUS
The Scripture is Very Very Clear
Whosoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God (2jn1: 9)
Jesus said except a man be born of Water and of Spirit he can not enter into the kingdom of God (Jn3:5)
1 Corinthians 13 1
If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a FAITH that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Matthew 5:16 ESV / 950 helpful votes
In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.
This kinda says you need to work also
You are not saved by works, however by your deeds you are known.
ON Point!!!
Yes. Jesus said you will know them by their fruit. If the fruit of 1 Corinthians13:4-8 is missing, then something is wrong.
@@HonorGod Atheists sometimes have more "fruit" morally than Christians do.
The New Testament writers are emphatic that salvation is by grace alone (Rom. 3:24, 28; 4:5; 11:6; Gal. 2:16-21; Eph. 2:8-10; Titus 3:5-8). 😉😉
. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:8-10) ... Now separate works of the law Mosaic Law Paul was speaking about circumcision's from Good Works charity which Paul calls charity love which is greater than faith "And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." 1 Corinthians 13:2 (St Paul). What is charity other than helping the needy? Charity is clearly considered among good works. "And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity." (1 Corinthians 13:13). This clearly puts charity BEFORE faith, so to say "faith alone" is all that is required of us is clearly contrary to Scripture.
rom2:6-7 Here’s what Paul says: For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Then there's verse Titus 3:14, where Paul says, “Let our people learn to devote themselves to good works, so as to help cases of urgent need.” You see a need, and in love you try to meet it-that's a good work. Good works are the overflow of love for Christ that meets the needs of others.
This is exactly what Paul says in Titus 3:8: “The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works.”
By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God, who will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness." (Rom 2: 5-8)
"Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?" James 2:24. How much more plain can it be said that faith alone is not enough for our salvation?
"What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him?" James 2:14.
"So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself." James 2:17. No explanation is needed for this verse!
"But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without works; and I will shew thee, by works, my faith." James 2:18.
"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar? James 2:20-21.
"For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead." James 2:26
Wherefore, brethren, labor the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election." 2 Peter 1:10
Oh crap Jesus says No works of Charity (love) you get eternal punishment looks like without those works you aren't saved but the idiots don't believe him and love their DIY religion of buffoons'
A little wake up call for everyone. Jesus isn’t your friend Barney.
He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.' Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?' And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.' Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.' Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?' He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.' And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Matthew 25:33-46
II Timothy 2:13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.
I think you are splitting hairs here.. he never said its our faithful obedience that saves us, its our obedience BORN out our very faith. When he says 'faithful obedience' he doesnt mean 'perfect' obedience, he means the obedience is born out of faith in Christ, which it should be. And out of this faith is born 'works' good works born out of faith.
You seem to be missing the forest for the trees here i feel.
This is a brilliant answer. Really. Brilliant.
@@RebiwGiant-um8vp thank you 🙏🏼
Sam Shamoun vehemently opposes Sola Fide which means justification by faith alone. He thinks that it's a "recent protestant doctrine" that is "from the pit of hell" per his own words. Faith alone is what saves you but if your "faith" is merely words, then it isn't faith in the first place.
I confirm as well that it's a very wise and brilliant response. We are saved by grace, but if we are truly saved, our faith will be a faith in motion, not just a stagnant faith. We want to be the servant who produces more talents, not the one who hides the talent.
I think I actually agree with Sam in what he’s trying to say. You cannot go around saying you have faith with zero evidence of it.
Zero evidence indicates an unregenerated person, not a regenerate person who's fruits you cannot see. And that has nothing to do with being a civilised normal person either.
The thief on the cross was saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
@@pastorernestalbuquerque4770 This Scripture is called the "penitent thief." You see that he went from a thieving, sinful man that mocked Christ, to a man who realized his folly and felt remorse. That is what "penitent" means. He surely would have lived much differently had he gotten down off that cross. He truly repented, and you can see that changed right before your eyes.
@@pastorernestalbuquerque4770in that moment he was physically unable to show and act on the fruits of his faith, being on the verge of death and unable to even move. using the story of the thief on the cross is such an illogical cop out.
That's all strawmsm nobody can say what the thief would of or wouldn't of done but what you can prove is that he was saved by his faith alone that's just your cope outs cause you don't want put salvation solely on Christ alone an what he did you wanna have ur crumb of the pie be able tell people who u think dont meet ur stsndards arent saved
Actually, he does have some good points.. We are truly given salvation as a gift only by grace from Him by believing. However, if your faith is not producing any signs of being saved and set apart, then you’re just the servant that buried the talents.
All the cults have some ' truth ' Leonard.
satan often presents some "truths", but its not the truths thats interesting, its the lie thats important, the truth he gives you is just the bait to get you hooked
Sam Shamoun is preaching a heretical Gospel and we are warned against doing this numerous times in Scripture (Galations 1, etc.). The Gospel is found in 1 Cor 15:1-4. Nothing other than believing in Jesus Christ saves one and grants them eternal life.
@@andrewmarshall7569 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who DOES the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:21. You will know them by their fruits, not by what they claim.
@@valvallll The will of the Father in John 6:40
I have been watching Sam Shamoun for over 2yrs and His teaching is on point. You didn't watch the full video. I agree 100% with Sam here
There may be a longer version but that was a stand alone video he put out. I played it all the way through
@iThinkBiblically HI Caleb, you missed Sam's point. Whenever he said works, he never meant works of the law. He tried to explain Faith without works as being dead to mean real Faith means been faithful in Christ. You must believe in something you are faithful to. Watch the full video. I love your teachings bro as you really helped me last year when I was depressed, same with Sam, Christian Prince and David Wood. Call his Live one day and request his explanation. Much luv from Nigeria 🇳🇬
He's conflating SALVATION with service. He's teaching a works salvation.
@@lespaul382You have decided he is teaching a works salvation. Until he clearly starts teaching a works salvation, Sam Shamoun is on the clear. Otherwise James 2 should be removed from the Bible to have faith without fruit salvation.
@@TheWizzie2012 James 2 is NOT talking about SALVATION. We work because we are saved. NOT to be saved.
I don’t know, Caleb, that he’s wrong. He seems to be clear that faith comes first, then faithfulness in following Christ’s teachings. I don’t hear him saying that works are required for salvation. The Bible does say to work out your salvation.
Works proceed out of salvation, they don't precede it. I wonder why so many people don't understand that.
@@user-pl7si5pn5k exactly!
@@user-pl7si5pn5kamen. I think this is what he is trying to say. I don’t get why he is being criticized. I never heard him say anything about being saved by works. Just that true saving faith will produce fruit.
@@user-pl7si5pn5k
Good works don’t inherently and automatically proceed out of faith. You have to walk in the Spirit, and no Christian does that perfectly. Anyone can do good works, believer and unbeliever. Both tend to walk in the flesh instead of the Spirit, but believers are saved thanks to the blood of Christ and believing on the Gospel.
With Fear and Trembling
Faith is Obedience
Without some level of obedience, we cannot call it Faith
Exactly
Faith is NOT obedience. Faithfulness is. You can't get saved by obedience. Ephesians 2 : 8-9 King James Bible.
The obedience comes after salvation.
@@colvinator1611John 3:36.
Faith in regards to salvation is believing in the death and resurrection of Christ and the works proves you truly believed in the first place to yourself and others but not to God since he knows all things.
@@JackMdunge
Works don’t prove faith. Who cares what man thinks? Only what God thinks and says matters. He says “faith,” that’s it. And once you are saved, you are sealed by the Holy Spirit unto (until) the Day of Redemption, meaning you cannot lose your salvation, ever.
Sam’s right on this one. Keep seeking and you’ll arrive at the correct understanding of salvation.
He prays to Mary. Enough said.
I will never understand how someone can worship Mary, I honestly don’t understand why it’s so difficult for them to just pray to God, but even then Sam always prays to Jesus Christ in the beginning of his live streams so idk
@@Wish_I_was_Righteous another day in wich evangelicals dont understand the difference of praying to someone or praying for intercesion. No one is saying you cant just pray to Jesus or the Holy Spirit directly. We simply ask the saints to pray for us for the prayer of a rightous person is more powerful than the prayer of a sinner. And because the saint are in heaven in the presence of God they are perfected. I dont know if you people simply dont understand that or if you intentionaly dont want to understand.
@d.t.7739 can the saints or Mary in heaven listen to millions of prayers at once? God hears your prayer , but waits for Mary to tell him about your prayer to do something about it? Thank you.
@@d.t.7739 The thing is that we here on Earth are commanded to pray for each other (who are still living) to strengthen and encourage our own faith but any communication with the dead, prayer or not, is strictly forbidden. Asking those who passed away for anything is against God's command which was way back since Old Testament times. So really now, who makes the more sense here?
Praying to the DEAD ? Oh so you're not Christian, since you don't believe in Jesus's promise of eternal life. Jesus is the God of LIFE, not of the dead.
If you think you're practicing necromancy you're not Christian. The saints are very much alive.
This went a little far calling Sam mentally unstable. He is a brother in Christ, and he does lot of good thing he is a human he will make mistakes I think it’s should be a great idea to call him and talk to him about that and he will learn from you instead of embarrassing him. About being abusive first you need to learn what group of people Sam deal with , he deal with Muslims and if you are trying to convince Muslims you have to act like how Sam acts so I support your channel but sometimes don’t just make videos because you see one error then you make a person to be portrayed as a false teacher.
i had to unsub. its like he doesn't try to understand b4 attack:\
2 John 1:6 KJV
[6] And this is love, that WE WALK after HIS commandments.
What Sam said already makes sense to me. I don't see anything heretical in his statements. I beg you to stop spreading discord among Christians. That is truly the last thing we need right now.
The truth is the truth it's not my truth or your truth it's The Truth. We are saved through faith alone. If you add anymore you do not accept the redeeming blood of Jesus alone. Works are as filthy rags to a Holy and Righteous God. You can see his gradual conversion to Catholicism who simply preach a false Gospel. God bless you
Sam uses words that are not appropriate to use as a Christian.
As a long-time bible believing christian, seeing how Sam had the gift of converting muslims, thinking that he is well grounded in the word of God... how wrong am i! The problem with Sam is that he seemed to be advocating the heretical doctrines of catholicism, and the is even a video of him blasting protestants for criticizing Catholicism. You need a lot of discernment and wisdom listening to Sam as he spoke with a lot of authority... be careful!
Agreed he's going through a very strange period, pray for him
Exactly! That’s all I see from this guy, sowing discord and claiming other people aren’t saved as if he’s God, only God knows the hearts of people and where they will eternally go
Those verses from the first few chapters of Romans are about being converted (Abraham declared righteous in Genesis 15). James 2 is about life after conversion (after Abraham was declared righteous, Genesis 22). Noah is listed in Hebrews 11… If he would have believed without works the ark would not have been built. People that say they believe in Jesus but don’t do what he said are building on sand.
The New Testament writers are emphatic that salvation is by grace alone (Rom. 3:24, 28; 4:5; 11:6; Gal. 2:16-21; Eph. 2:8-10; Titus 3:5-8).
. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:8-10) ... Now separate works of the law Mosaic Law Paul was speaking about circumcision's from Good Works charity which Paul calls charity love which is greater than faith "And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." 1 Corinthians 13:2 (St Paul). What is charity other than helping the needy? Charity is clearly considered among good works. "And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity." (1 Corinthians 13:13). This clearly puts charity BEFORE faith, so to say "faith alone" is all that is required of us is clearly contrary to Scripture.
rom2:6-7 Here’s what Paul says: For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Then there's verse Titus 3:14, where Paul says, “Let our people learn to devote themselves to good works, so as to help cases of urgent need.” You see a need, and in love you try to meet it-that's a good work. Good works are the overflow of love for Christ that meets the needs of others.
This is exactly what Paul says in Titus 3:8: “The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works.”
By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God, who will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness." (Rom 2: 5-8)
"Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?" James 2:24. How much more plain can it be said that faith alone is not enough for our salvation?
"What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him?" James 2:14.
"So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself." James 2:17. No explanation is needed for this verse!
"But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without works; and I will shew thee, by works, my faith." James 2:18.
"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar? James 2:20-21.
"For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead." James 2:26
Wherefore, brethren, labor the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election." 2 Peter 1:10
Oh crap Jesus says No works of Charity (love) you get eternal punishment looks like without those works you aren't saved but the idiots don't believe him and love their DIY religion of buffoons' and their sola skip tura
A little wake up call for everyone. Jesus isn’t your friend Barney.
He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.' Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?' And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.' Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.' Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?' He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.' And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Matthew 25:33-46😆😆
You believe if Noah wouldn't of built the ark an diec in the flood he would a went to hell?? Noah building the ark or not had nothing do with his salvation after death
will you ever make a response to kyle’s video on your critique of orthodoxy?
He was not saying : Faith + Works. You can't walk away from a man who is suffering and think that you are doing a good deed. We are Not saved by works either. Can we just simply sit without helping anyone and say that we have faith in Christ? No. That is correct. If we love God, we will AUTOMATICALLY work. But if we WORK with an intention to go to heaven. It is work based salvation. But if we Have Abundant FAITH, we will AUTOMATICALLY work.
The word AUTOMATIC is important. It is the fruit of the spirit. When we are having faith, we will do works.
But if we do works and thinking that: "I am obeying GOD." Then, we have to investigate our heart whether we are doing those works to get to heaven or doing it because we love the LORD?
It is very simple to understand. God is sacrificial.
So, when we do works and think that work is necessary for salvation. Then it means we are NOT doing works because we are SACRIFICIAL like GOD.
Instead, we are doing those works to get to heaven. ( That is not SACRIFICE )
SACRIFICE = FORGETTING about our desires. ( So, we cannot do works to earn heaven. )
Works... obedience is a result of faith. You will know them by their fruits. You first trust in Christ, then you obey his commandments. They are connected but faith always comes before works
“You will know them by their fruits” is NOT talking about “works,” it’s talking about false teachers preaching a false gospel, like these two dudes. “Fruit” is “teachings,” not “works.”
The Scripture is Very Very Clear
Whosoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God ( 2jn1: 9)
Jesus said except a Man be born by Water and Spirit he can not enter into the kingdom of God jn3:5
Peter said Repent and be baptized everyone of you IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the remission of Sin and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Acts 2: 38)
Jesus said he who believe and is baptized shall be saved (mark16:16)
(17) And these signs shall follow them that believe in my name they shall cash out devil, they shall speak in New Tongues and prophecies
Paul said did you received the Holy Ghost since you believe..? What then were you Baptized..? Acts 19: 1-7
Paul said but even if we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you let him be Accursed (Gal 1:8)
Caleb, your gift of discernment has helped me so much! Many thanks as always. ❤✝️👍
Revelation 2:10 KJV
[10] Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: BE THOU FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Hes right. Why call Him Lord but dont do what He says? Make ur calling and election sure but bringing urself into subjection or be castaway like Paul said.
Please debate him face to face, dont just find fault behind him
Sounds like you just want drama there’s nothing wrong with somebody disagreeing or critiquing someone without debating them
How can His grace be a Gift if we have to earn it?
he fullfilled the law of moses for you. so you do not have to do those works prescribed therein. but you do need to believe in him and trust / have faith that he is who he says he is and that his words are true.
his words do not say do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
his yoke is easy and his burden is light.
We have the law to show us that we are guilty. Which is why we need a SAVIOR.
If you love me keep my commandments
Romans 3:31
“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.”
King James Version (KJV)
@@Paul_2023. Roman's 3:20. Are you saying then we have to earn it. We are under the law of the Spirit. God living in us . That's the difference. If we are truly saved the Spirit will change us. Roman's is full of how the Spirit works in us. I praise God for his free gift of grace. Knowing that it's not what I did but what he did.
You probably confusing salvation with faith. We get our salvation and redemption through the Grace of Jesus Christ given freely through his death and resurrection . Once we born again and are in Christ. We live by faith . The living by faith part is what he means that faith without works is dead. That’s why is Jesus says if you love me obeymy commandments. The more you in him he more the Holy Spirit teachs you to walk by faith. Walking by faith is an action word
Sam isn't wrong here. We are saved when we trust Jesus as Lord. We can't have faith without obedience. Obedience helps complete our faith.
Sadly, Sam comes from a works-based Assyrian church, then he 'becomes' an evangelical Christian, then dabbles with the Orthodox Church and now he's a fully paid-up member of Roman Catholicism.
This is the road to full-blown Works Salvation
If someone has faith, but does not have works, does that person’s faith save him/her?
@@HellenicCatholic What works? Be specific in what the works are please. Because Paul says we are saved by grace and not works.
@@user-pl7si5pn5k Good Works/Works of Love.
@@user-pl7si5pn5k and for clarity, Paul wrote, “you HAVE BEEN saved,” so it was a past event. We agree. You were saved (initially) by grace through faith, it’s a gift.
Are you currently BEING saved right now, though?
@@HellenicCatholic I already asked you to tell me what works you are referring to. You replied with something that didn't address my question. Can you try again please? To be specific, I want to know what types of works you are talking about.
So if he’s preaching another gospel. Why would you recommend any to go and watch his channel? Don’t get it twisted
Facts he says Sam is preaching another gospel but still recommending people to keep watching his channel .
Another huge issue with Sam is not merely his ungainly, abusive behavior but the fact that he doesn't appear to have a priest or pastor who holds him accountable. Had he gone to the Assyrian Church in the East, Orthodox or Catholic churches under a priest there's no way his priest or bishop would allow his narcissistic tactics.
First of all roman catholicism isn't Christian neither is orthodoxy,secondly we are only accountable to God not any man
@RyanTP93
That’s a good point, it’s always good for someone with a (online) ministry to be connected to a church and to be under their leadership.
@@BornAgainPhena this is wrong catholics and orthodox are Christians, your lying to yourself to say other wise simply because they have different theology, This is an Protestant view.
abusive how? because he is direct? He is one of the few People on the internet speaking out against Islam boldly something most pastors wouldn't dare do afraid of radical Islamist.
@@ChristSaves984 catholics are Not Christians neither are orthodox its the simple and painful truth they both pray to saints and angels and worship mary instead of God,they don't believe we are saved by grace through faith and they have idols and icons its a very eye opening truth and whether anyone likes it ot not the truth is the truth
I think people get confused with the word works in James faith with deeds verse. The works in James verse isn’t for salvation but to show your faith in Him. If you follow Christ and have faith, you won’t lose salvation but you should show your faith by serving Christ.
Another Great teaching Caleb. Many scriptures are in support of your teaching about faith. Ephesians 2:8-9.
Thanks again for your efforts.
What does the next verse say?
At this point I only take his good criticisms against Islam from him.
The way he speaks about others in the faith (James White, Anthony Rogers) is absolutely disgusting.
This seems to be the fruit of the internet. Rotten. A bunch of self righteous clowns putting other people down they would never do in real life unless they were some brute beast of a person. Correcting a heresy error is not the same thing as ad hominem attacks, especially if they are in house Christian debates. That's just despicable behaviour.
Why do you like the way Sam talks to Muslims but despise the way he talks to Christians? This is saying something about you rather than him.
@Thewizzie Against Islam, Sam provides a blueprint on apologetics and polemics. He is amazing. But when we examine his catholic leaning theology (ie veneration of Mary), then as Christians we have to hold him to scrutiny. Obviously Mary veneration and the nuances around faith+salvation theology is not a dominant Christian-Muslim topic, that's why @Ex-Muslimstwstimonies can listen to Sam debate Muslims and not get offended. So there is an obvious difference in approach between the two. One can therefore like the other approach and dislike the other. Elementary stuff
Don’t forget Mike winger. He called Mike a Homo.
i felt the same until i notice how far JW lets his ego lead him just to avoid admitting he is wrong on free will
Free will exists and its obv beginning to end in bible..yet JW and the likes wont admit they are wrong
its simple some ppl were predestined but not all that simple not this evil God who forces ppl to do evil
You are correct, it clearly isn't based on fear, works or anything other than the mercy and grace of Christ.
It is by faith and choosing to be baptized that we follow Christ, look up to him for all things and believe on his name in all things...James chapter 2 opens up comparing a rich man and a poor man, and that's exactly what 2:24 is about, this whole chapter is about those prosparity preachers vs. the poor essentially. One wouldn't put themselves over others essentially, not a cause for salvation, so yes, Sam is off big time here in this regard.
Romans 4:5
King James Version
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Luke 23
39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Animal Sacrifices never took away sins, only Christ has, animal sacrifice was just to remind us of the law and to help us follow them.
Hebrews 10
2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law
Parable of the Pharisee and Tax Collector
Sam is correct in what he showed; faith means faithfulness pistis is the Greek word means you’re gonna be faithful, that’s the proper hermeneutics here!
Too many Christians think they’re pleasing God by having faith without works or That God is schizophrenic when he gave 613 Commandments and zero in the New Testament? No, there’s at least 1000 Commandments in the New Testament we are under the law of Christ. Galatians 6:2, first Corinthians is 9:21 This may sound strange to you, but that’s because the hyper Grace That’s floating around everywhere.
Romans 12:1-2 Offer your body as a living sacrifice it’s only reasonable that you do that. So it’s unreasonable if you don’t do that. That’s what that text says
Read Revelation two and three, and see how hard Jesus comes down on works and what he’s microscopically looking at !
Titus is three chapters long, six times it says to do good works and right in the middle of Titus is Titus 2:11-12 “the grace of God Has appeared all men , teaching us to say no to ungodliness!”
So the grace of God is mam actively teaching people, so that’s a different definition of grace! also people can frustrate the grace of God Galatians 2 Says, they can fall from the grace Galatians 5:4
Hopefully you’ll study this and look at this and come out of hyper grace !
@jjphank you keep over 1000+ commandments? There's no way you do...yes Sam is correct by saying by faith we do good works we all know where morals came from
The New Testament writers are emphatic that salvation is by grace alone (Rom. 3:24, 28; 4:5; 11:6; Gal. 2:16-21; Eph. 2:8-10; Titus 3:5-8).
. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:8-10) ... Now separate works of the law Mosaic Law Paul was speaking about circumcision's from Good Works charity which Paul calls charity love which is greater than faith "And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." 1 Corinthians 13:2 (St Paul). What is charity other than helping the needy? Charity is clearly considered among good works. "And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity." (1 Corinthians 13:13). This clearly puts charity BEFORE faith, so to say "faith alone" is all that is required of us is clearly contrary to Scripture.
rom2:6-7 Here’s what Paul says: For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
Then there's verse Titus 3:14, where Paul says, “Let our people learn to devote themselves to good works, so as to help cases of urgent need.” You see a need, and in love you try to meet it-that's a good work. Good works are the overflow of love for Christ that meets the needs of others.
This is exactly what Paul says in Titus 3:8: “The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works.”
By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God, who will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness." (Rom 2: 5-8)
"Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?" James 2:24. How much more plain can it be said that faith alone is not enough for our salvation?
"What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him?" James 2:14.
"So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself." James 2:17. No explanation is needed for this verse!
"But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without works; and I will shew thee, by works, my faith." James 2:18.
"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar? James 2:20-21.
"For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead." James 2:26
Wherefore, brethren, labor the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election." 2 Peter 1:10
Oh crap Jesus says No works of Charity (love) you get eternal punishment looks like without those works you aren't saved but the idiots don't believe him and love their DIY religion of buffoons' and their sola skip tura
A little wake up call for everyone. Jesus isn’t your friend Barney.
He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.' Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?' And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.' Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.' Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?' He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.' And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
Jesus said " I am going to the father. YOU will be doing the works I was doing and even greater works when I leave."... Are you going to disobey Jesus? Are you going to disobey the holy spirit? Are you going to disobey the father? They are one...
My dear Brother, can you Please do a video on the "Sound Mind" that only God can give us, and what it means in regards to people getting dementia and other mental/brain problems? I struggle with this because my mother, sometimes she is the Best "Christian" to talk to, but most of the time, it is like trying to talk to the devil himself, has God turned her over to her own delusions? This has been this way all of my 55 yrs, and I want to be able to reach her, but I honestly do not know how to, your help would be ever so much appreciated, God Bless!
Let's pray for sam 🙏in JESUS mighty precious name Amen.
Sam teaches Catholicism
Which is what Christians have always held to.
Excellent video brother. Way to handle the word of God with a diligence defense!
Great Video Caleb! well done man. I think when Sam says "Faith IS Faithfulness" he is preaching a kind of works-based salvation - no way around it. Maybe a few additional points to yours:
Romans 10:9 "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
This text shows that genuine faith is not merely a mental assent or simply a profession, but there is a possession element to genuine faith. That is to say, faith takes hold of Christ. So genuine faith is both a profession "declare with your mouth" and a possession "believe in your heart". I am saved not because I prayed a prayer once upon a time (Though that is an expression of my faith), but because I believe now in that Christ is MY saviour and has risen from the dead - and so take hold of him through faith.
When Sam says "Faith IS Faithfulness" he immediately shifts the focus from the sufficiency of Christ to our own performance (works). Whether he intends to or not. But my "faithfulness" will always be imperfect, and if I cling to it for my assurance I will be discouraged (those who claim to be without sin are liars). But when I look to Christ and cling to him in FAITH (not faithfulness) then my assurance is secure - because although my faithfulness is imperfect - Christ is not. James is evaluating whether we had living/genuine faith to begin with - he is not saying Faith is Faithfulness.
I have heaps of respect for Sam - sad he said what he did in this one.
Really good points. I like how you explained Romans 10:9. Thanks for that brother.
It's great to see how Shamoun plays the James White card...'The Greek says...' More sophistry from Sam Shamoun. There are a few Bible passages that, at first glance, seem to teach salvation through faith plus works. One such is Shamoun's choice verse...James 2:24, which APPEARS to say that justification is by faith plus works: “You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.” This apparent problem is solved by examining the WHOLE of James’ argument in his Epistle. James is refuting the idea that a person can have saving faith without producing any good works (see James 2:17-18). Genuine faith in Christ, James says, will produce a changed life and result in good works (James 2:20-26). James is not saying that justification is by faith plus works, but that a person who is truly justified by faith will have good works in his or her life. The works are an outward show of genuine faith in Christ (James 2:14, 17, 20, 26)-and it’s that outward show that “justifies” the believer in the sight of other people. This ties in, very nicely, with Matthew 7:16, "You will know them by their fruits [deeds, actions, results - which are the consequence of their relationship with God and their salvation, in Christ]. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes, nor figs from thistles, are they?"
Yes, faith prompts faithfulness. They are not the same thing, but faithfulness is what we do because of true faith.
How do you believe in heart??? Confessing is with your mouth and believing is with what??
@@ImCarolB "Faithfulness" as in loyalty and obedience; not continuing to work at our salvation.
Calling obedience to God heretical is a dangerous place to be.
He’s not calling obedience to God heretical, but communicating that Sam’s definition of faith is heretical.
Your conflating SALVATION with service.
@@lespaul382 hardly.
@@lespaul382 if you can determine what I am conflating, based off one sentence, then you truly have a gift. Not a gift for spelling and grammer however.
Heck of a statement, given you really don't even know my position.
@@keithconnell8460 That's all you got? Bringing up a spelling error?... Haha, another one of those people? What's the proof someone is truly saved?
Sam Shamoun finally coming under scrutiny from fellow Christians? Who’d have thunk? God bless you.
No it's not the first time, but their is an entire video on this subject and some things were missed in this vidoe, if its the standalone video then yes he is wrong. But if you watched the entire video then you will get the full context of what he was saying and it sounded biblical to what I understand about having faith in God
The truth is he's done far more than any Christian I can remember that is exposing Islam.
Sam is a legend
@@albionblue123 he is my friend but he is not the ultimate authority, scripture is. Faith apart from works = salvation. Then the works prove to you and others that you truly had faith and belong to the flock. Hence by their fruit you shall know them. It is not a way that Christ knows who is saved since he is God and all knowing but a way for you and others in Christ to know who belongs to the flock and who is an intruder.
What does Matthew 7:23 mean when Jesus says "And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ " ? The Torah is the Law, and to practice is an ongoing action.
And what about I John 2:3-4
[3] Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. [4] He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. And what about
I John 5:3
[3] For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
Can we be saved if we do not love God and do not know Him?
Christ is our perfect sacrifice and the only way we can be with God in heaven, but there is a part of the covenant that we must uphold, is there not?
You are correct and the part of the covenant we keep is what Paul summarized in Galatians 5:14
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
For that single law covers everything Jesus taught, including "forgiving those who trespass against us, cos only then will God forgive us".
@kingzamn45 It is my understanding that when he quotes Jesus, that he is saying that by loving your neighbor you are fulfilling Torah ( not killing, stealing, lying, coveting). But Jesus said the greatest commandment is to love God: Matthew 22:37-40 NKJV
[37] Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ [38] This is the first and great commandment. [39] And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ [40] On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
My question, for the longest time, was how do I know that I love God? What action shows this? If I love my husband, surely I respect what he has to say and abide under his leadership.
We show we love God by keeping His commandments.
I John 5:2-3 NKJV
[2] By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. [3] For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
It is not keeping the Law that saves us, only Christ's blood. But keeping the law is the fruit of having been purified, it is our love and worship to our Lord.
First off, I'm not a fan of some of the things Sam says and how he says them. However, you are not being just with Sam in this video. To start, I noticed that you conveniently read only the beginning portion of the definition of pistis in the Vine's dictionary. It goes on to say: "The main elements in "faith" in its relation to the invisible God, as distinct from "faith" in man, are especially brought out in the use of this noun and the corresponding verb, pisteuo; they are (1) a firm conviction, producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation or truth, e.g., 2 Thessalonians 2:11,12; (2) a personal surrender to Him, John 1:12; (3) a conduct inspired by such surrender, 2 Corinthians 5:7 . Prominence is given to one or other of these elements according to the context. All this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural exercise, which consists of an opinion held in good "faith" without necessary reference to its proof." Pay attention to number 3 especially. This agrees with John in 3:36 where faith is equated with obedience; this also agrees with James when he says that faith without works is dead (btw, the term "faith alone" is only found in James, where the whole phrase is "NOT by faith alone"); this all also agrees with Paul when in the first and last chapters of Romans he refers to "the obedience of faith." What Sam is saying is not works-based, for if it were he would be saying that we earn our salvation through our works. But what he is saying, as the Scriptures teach, the faith in Christ that saving is a faith that obeys God. No doubt Sam, as the Bible, is teaching against antinomianism, which many think grace teaches unfortunately. You have misrepresented not only Sam, but worse, the word of God, and therefore God Himself.
...or as Jesse Morrell, the modern day open-air preacher says, "Many today are claiming to be justified by faith like Abraham was, but they're not obedient by faith like Abraham was. And if you don't have Abrahamic obedience, you do jot have Abrahamic faith, and consequently you do not have Abrahamic justification."
Thx
We must be honest here, Sam is wrong in this regard of faith equaling works in regards to Salvation. Scripture is our ultimate authority no matter how we love Sam but we stick to scripture even he contradicts it in a specific matter.
So can i believe in christ once (and not continue in it and not submit my will to the Father and pick my cross) and get saved?
Is that what I said? You didn’t watch the video through did you?
Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed-not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence-continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
1 John 2:4 KJV
[4] He that saith, I know him, and KEEPETH NOT HIS commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
I really feel pity for people who dont have time to preach the gospel to the needy but they keep find fault to every preachers. Remember one day each one of us we have to stand infront of God's throne and only God will decide who is right and who is wrong.
Who are you talking about? What makes you think I don’t preach the gospel to the lost?
Paul’s Use of His Freedom
1 Corinthians 9
19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.
20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.
21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.
22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.
23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.
What about all the times in the Old Testament when men and women were said to have faith, yet they knew not about Jesus Christ? Truly, this man doesn't have a clue.
They had faith in God and in His promise. They had faith in The One who was to come = Hamashiach Yeshua
Acts15:11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they."
Nobody was saved by their works.
I think people like nt wright, and Matthew bates and edit mcknight etc define pistus as believing loyalty, allegiance to a king essentially. So it’s more of HOW we live opposed to what we believe.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on it more. Matthew bates book is called allegiance alone
Right on brother, as usual! I think what's confusing for many is the phenomenon of so many "believers" living unholy lives, thinking their mental agreement is their faith. Frustrating. If you actually believe, your actions will show it!
That’s true, but Sam is right in this video faith means faithfulness in the proper hermeneutic from the Greek.
@@jjphank What does this prove? He's manipulated the Greek to mean that it's about on-going 'works.' That's not what the Greek means.
@@jjphank The verse begins "You see..." In other words, 'the world observes/can see for themselves.' James never denies Justification by Faith; but James makes it clear that our belief and dependence upon Jesus isn't an idle, speculative, theoretic faith, with no corresponding acts of love. We must demonstrate this to the world. So, Sam is wrong.
@@Spartanthermopylae you’re wrong dude you didn’t look it up! the word faith means faithfulness in the Greek go look it up!
Just as John 3:16 is believes present future tense, active; not believed past tense so you have to maintain your faith, your belief in Christ To the end of your life and then you’re saved!
@@jjphank OK, the Greek is πίστεως...so, from the Greek, show us all how you decline and explain your point?
I trust brother Caleb's objectivity in discernment and Sam is very or extremely good against Islam I have a lot of respect for both you guys❤
Absolutely, he is awesome against Islam. Probably the best in the world.
@@iThinkBiblically I could not get through on telegram you asked me to talk on telegram the other day and left me the link
Pls tell me whether U just believe on Jesus n saved by OSAS or U must also repent of sin.
If u don't believe in repentance of sin for salvation then u are also not saved
I respect Sam as an Apologist however once I simply asked him if he could stop swearing. Silly me left my email on my CZcams account, before long I received so much vile speech calling me a dog of Satan and other such names.
Thinking of the quote, "never meet your heroes" was so true here. He is a good Apologist but has quite the way to go being Christ-like
Eve sinned coz she disobeyed.. so what’s wrong with being obedient?
Nothing is wrong with obedience. So long as you don't think your obedience saves you.
It was Adam that was told by [God] not to eat from that tree (knowledge, life & death). Therefor Adam sinned (disobeyed), and the wages of that sin is death...
@@eagletalons5333 JESUS DIED FOR OUR SINS TO ALL WHO BELIEVE IN HIM SHALL BE SAVED NOT BY WORKS
@@iThinkBiblically do you believe that living in disobedience to Christ, the Word of God, will not hinder your salvation, cause you have a mental believe of an historic event? be careful about your words, cause people will interpret these things as the free grace doctrine.
to believe in someone, means that you trust that he is who he says he is and that what he says is true.
Does Jesus not teach "works" (not rituals, but according to free grace standards even not doing a sinfull act is considered a work) ?
are the works of the law not the law of moses with all its rituals etc. ? which Jesus through his obedience fullfilled. and through believing in him (and thus doing what he says, mainly summed up in the word love) you shall be saved?
the commandments were written by the finger of God into stone and put inside the ark of the covenant, the law of moses was written by moses and put next to the ark of the covenant, the law of moses was brought in play to fix what adam broke. and Jesus fullfilled it.
but Jesus didn't tell us just believe i died for you and that is sufficient.
he said pick up your cross and follow me. he repeatedly emphasised that you need to hear the word and do it.
why call ye me Lord, Lord and do not what i say? go away from me ye workers of iniquity.
My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
how about the dividing of the sheep and the goats?
How does believing in a historic event being done for you produce works?
the dead burial and resurection is the sign of Jonah, which was the sign Jesus would give that he is who he says he is. and yes he died for you and me.
he said that if you don't eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of man you have no life in you.
the flesh of the Son of man is the Word of God, so eat the Word of God, for man does not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. assimilate it, like you assimilate food into your body (apply it) and live it.
let the Word of God abide in your heart and convict you, change you, His Words are Spirit, he said.
Paul speaks of obedience of faith. so you can have faith that Jesus is who he says he is, so do you not need to obey his teaching? like james says faith without works is death.
if you love him keep his commandments he says.
i haven't figured it all out yet, but i have no intent of ignoring the words of the Lord to follow a doctrine spread by man in the modern world.
@@TheElizabethashby By "Faith" alone! Our 'works' will reflect our "Faith" naturally. Just 'ringing the bell' at Christmas time is NOT the ticket to heaven.
Why is it so hard for people to understand this? You are saved by grace alone. However without works (wedding garment , talents ,oil) God will not accept you.
Could you explain a bit more?
@@Spartanthermopylae the wedding garments are essentially what Paul summarized in Galatians 5:14 as follows : "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself".
For this teaching incorporates everything Jesus told us to do including "forgive those who have wronged us, cos only then will God will forgive us!"- (Matthew 6:9-15) ..and therefore without God's forgiveness, there is no salvation.
@@kingzamn45 Are you saying that we have to DO something in order to receive God's forgiveness so that we can then have the opportunity to receive the chance to receive salvation?
@@Spartanthermopylae I am not saying anything. Jesus himself is the one saying it in Matthew 6:9-15 and continuesly keeps saying it throughout the new testament. Literally our Christian faith is based on love, forgiveness and repentance. Forgiveness being the key to our salvation. Just as God forgives us, we are to forgive those who have wronged us and simultaneously repent wholeheartedly of any evils we may commit. Live in this manner and you will attain salvation.
@@kingzamn45 You didn't answer my question.
"Just as God forgives us, we are to forgive those who have wronged us and simultaneously repent wholeheartedly of any evils we may commit." My question was about salvation.
I used to love Sam, though he became increasingly callous and crude to even his listeners, then started teaching Catholic doctrine. A real shame, he is very smart and has done a lot of good to expose false JW and Muslim teachings
James affirms that deeds (or actions) are the byproduct of a living faith. Works do not justify us or make us righteous before God, nor are they the means to salvation. Rather, our deeds are the fruit that grows from one who is obedient to God’s commands and transformed by His grace. James 2:26, we read jesus say: "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." genuine faith is accompanied by corresponding actions! Sometimes the truth is hard to,accept, but it doesn’t change the fact that Sam speaks the truth.
Sam has such a vile mouth. He uses scripture to justify his wicked mouth.
He can get pretty full on and I expect him to blast me in return.
@@iThinkBiblically Most likely. We can expect him to act like a verbally abusive child. You need to continue to expose people like Sam. God bless you and your ministry.
@@iThinkBiblicallyI have a quick question. Do you suppose people who follow the Catholic and orthodox teachings have a ‘trust’ issue in the first place causing them to believe they have to ‘do’ works because those trust issues carries on into their beliefs in Jesus?
Only the blood of Jesus can wash away our sin and we are set free. Hallelujah 😊✝️🙌💕
@@victoriacharlesworth7099 Hi Victoria! The issue is the teaching of the Catholic Church around Salvation. In Catholicism, the trust is given to God via the Church...and not directly. The Catholic Church makes it clear that trust alone is the sin of presumption.
@@Spartanthermopylae Which is completely insanely stupid, since no normal human being would think, "The church is going to save me and not God". Crazy stuff.
You know you should have done brother? You should have contacted sam and discuss that matter with him before making a video like this to discredit the man. Shame on you sir for trying to degrade your brother in christ before talking with him first.
I'm also an admirer of Sam Shamoun, and also have reservations about his recent dabbling into EO/RC excesses i.e. prayer to saints & icon veneration. But he's a great brother who has defended the faith against Islam.
Revelation 22:14 KJV
[14] Blessed are they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
GREAT VIDEO EXPOSING THAT FRAUD
Sam has the correct understanding...
@@Rabbitburnx No, he doesn't. Faithfulness is not "faith without works" i.e. "faith alone".
Actually in this context it doesn't mean anything - it's just a word salad.
The Demons "believe", but repentance is not an option with them as it is for those who choose to BELIEVE on The Name of Jesus Christ
John 14:15 KJV
[15] If ye love ME, KEEP MY commandments.
My issue with one of Sam’s arguments in the clip you provided is that it seems like he is trying to draw a parallel between the angels’/demons’ belief in Jesus and man’s faith in Jesus. Man’s eternal salvation through Jesus Christ is a completely separate issue from the fallen angels’ eventual eternal damnation. Why is he trying to draw some sort of correlation between the two?
Fallen angels are fallen because they aren't faithful. Belief isn't enough to be faithful. Faith is all encompassing.
It's turning your will towards God and acting out that will. It's two sides of the same coin.
Just like how we aren't disembodied spirits trapped in bodies and we're not bodies without a soul. It takes both to be a living breathing human being.
Brother Caleb, I have to side with Sam on this one.
To be justified is to be saved from eternal punishment for our sins because of repenting and putting our faith in Jesus who died for our sins and rose again. Being cleansed by His blood.
That scripture in no way undoes all the other scriptures. They compliment and agree with each other as the Bible is the whole Word of God. One scripture does not undo the others. They all go together.
If we don't speak it with our mouth then we do not truly believe. For if we believe we will speak it.
They work together. Belief and speaking from the heart and spirit and from faith;
and belief and repentance.
It's all one and the same. You can't have one without the other.
You don't have one without the other.
The law and statutes show us plainly that we are sinners and no amount of self effort or good deeds will change that. Nor will it purify our hearts or wash our sins away. It won't change us.
Only the blood of Jesus will wash our sins away and only Jesus can save us.
The Holy Spirit will change us if we let Him. He is a person.
Some faith is dead. That is they spout the words and they think they believe but there is no fruit to back it up. No works. The cares of life choke it all out.
Again works do Not save.
However they are proof of genuine enduring belief and repentance. They are proof of salvation. Dead faith can't save.
Revelation 7:14
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Isaiah 53
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
James 2:17
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone
Luke 9:26
For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels
True faith will act. It will produce repentance and good works. Because of having true faith. Works do not save but they are a result of true faith that reaches the heart and soul and changes us.
Romans 2:13
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven
Luke 8:21
And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it
Romans 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Acts 3:19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord
1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God
Galatians 3:24
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith
Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
I used to live by this kind of teaching and I understand its devastating effects. You will begin to question your salvation and have mental issues...anxiety will be prevalent. No wonder he says "please forgive me! Please forgive me!" He doesn't believe he has already been forgiven. Peace comes when you truly believe Jesus was the perfect sacrifice and our righteous deed are filthy rags.
He is doing exactly what JW's do with faith. In their translation they will put "faithfulness" instead of "faith". So sad considering his ministry has helped me so much to know how to deal with JW's false teachings. But honestly I stopped listening to him a few years ago when he said that Calvinist have a different and false God just like the JW's.
edit- JW's translate it "exercising faith" or "exercise faith"
In case you didn't know, the words faith and faithfulness is a distinction in the English which neither the Hebrew nor the Greek languages make. They are literally the same word in both Greek and Hebrew.
@@SlavicUA I was going to say something to this, but as it turned out my memory was wrong. They translate it many times as "exercising faith" or "exercise faith"
@@Yetter oh I see. Yeah, even John macarthur had a book titled "Faith that Works". So of course every christian should agree that if you don't have any works to back up your faith, like James says, "Can that faith save you?"
sam shomoun i agree with because with real faith comes obedience how can one say they have faith with no obedience to God, it feels like your telling people not to do works when its not saying that its more saying just dont count on them saving you but we still need to do works even ministry counts as works!
Proverbs 20:11 KJV - Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.
Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Proverbs 16:3 KJV - Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.
Matthew 16:27 KJV - For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
2 Timothy 4:5 KJV - But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Revelation 2:26 KJV - And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Ephesians 4:12 KJV - For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
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These verses prove that we need evidence of our faith, by our actions. Caleb is correct.
@@Spartanthermopylae the way people teach this faith no works bulls is like telling people don't do works, Ephesians right there proves that yes works wont save us but its not telling us to not do works its just saying dont count on them.
@@Spartanthermopylae the last two verse admit that evangelism an ministry is works which we are to do.
@@Spartanthermopylae the point being made is it's ok to do works just don't count on them plus obedience is just obeying God's will, when your doing God's will your being obedient aren't? Your obeying his word aren't you? With real faith comes obedience to God which is being obedient to his word and his will!
“Obeying” ? Like, Obeying Jesus when He said “Love each other”? What I feel like I’m hearing is that we cannot be real believers if we are not 1) Hearing Jesus and 2) Obeying Him. Did I hear that right? So, basically he is saying that each individual is responsible for hearing God’s Spirit lead them and “Always” obeying what the Spirit tells us to do. Else we are “Believers who are still going to hell”? What the crap is that sort of ideology? This is a classic example of the perversion of the “Performance Gospel”
Sam has made an entire series on this, so I would say it would be great to see iThinkB to contact Sam for a friendly conversation as it's hard to comment on a slither of a 2 hour plus video. They are both great at teaching, maybe they both can teach each other and us while they converse and share scripture 🙏
Sam Shamoun is a legend. He's one of the very few Christians who confront Islamists.
He also hurt his wife, she put an order of protection on him and he’s never repented. It shows in his anger
@@devadasn that’s nothing to do with us. That’s their marriage. You shouldn’t speculate.
Faith in regards to salvation is believing in the death and resurrection of Christ and the works proves you truly believed in the first place to yourself and others but not to God since he knows all things.
Revelation 3:5 KJV
[5] He that OVERCOMETH, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I WILL NOT BLOT OUT his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Philippians 1:10 KJV
[10] that ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may BE SINCERE and WITHOUT OFFENCE TILL THE DAY of CHRIST;
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." -(Isaiah 8:20)
PSALMS 119:115
"Depart from me, ye evildoers: for I will keep the commandments of my God."
KING JAMES VERSION (KJV)
Saved through faith. But works are the proof of true faith. Otherwise the faith is empty just as the body without its soul.
Read the whole chapter
Romans 3:31
“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.”
King James Version (KJV)
Bro says he's not attacking, and then proceeds to attack.
Thank you brother Caleb, please always stay teaching the truth and exposing falsehoods. God bless you.
One must distinguish between works of the law (which some rely on for righteousness) and good works (righteous acts of the saints) which God prepared beforehand that we might walk in them. Maranatha
Well said brother, this is why so many Christians are confused on this issue,
they cannot discern between works of the flesh and works of the Spirit.
Thank you for this video! You are brave!
Can you imagine the fear of not knowing how many works are enough? You would have to do 1000s of works daily just to try and ascend to Gods perfection. Insane
Exactly. And when it comes to be obedient to the law: it's not about how many sins we succeed to avoid. Every sin we actually commit makes us workers of iniquity before God.
God's standard is perfection and all sins we avoided to commit cannot compensate for those we did commit.
We can only dress in Jesus' righteousness. By grace through faith without works.
yeah right. Better to just give lip service to the Lord and continiue living like a sinner. The Lord forgives right? Heretic
@@d.t.7739 Exactly, like since you can't know how good you are doing, what's the point? Can you properly judge yourself??? NOOOO
But what are “works”?
Romans 1:4-6: “…Jesus Christ our Lord, 5through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the *obedience of faith* for the sake of his name among all the nations, including you who are called to belong to Jesus Christ…”
Works do not save, but they are a consequence of genuine faith.
I don’t believe we should be recommending that this man should be listened to with discernment. The fact that he has gone to the dark side of the orthodox religion is enough to warn your viewers away from him.
We might even say apostate!
No in error but not apostate
We are saved by faith unto good works. If you have faith in God, you will manifest good works because you have faith in God.
This does not mean that you that your works can save you, but your salvation will be marked by your works.
Faith is the horse and works are the cart; you need both in the right order to bring in the fruits of the field.
The most optimal understanding is that salvation is by faith, which necessarily leads to works, rather than faith alone in isolation from the life it ought to produce , so Sam is technically more right.
I was a subscriber of iThink Biblically, but now i understood that its your thought you are trying to put on to the followers.
your channel name itself says that it is that you think, not the way of God.
You did a false teaching in this video, you didnt explain James 2 verses from 14 onwards.
In short, what i belive is, It is true that "we are not saved by Works alone", at the same time it is true that "faith without works is dead" .
That’s what I believe too. But it’s not what Sa Shamoun believes.
Believe in Jesus saves alone not by the works of the law but it leads to works of love but if you see your brother suffer and ignore him how can god be in him James 2 14 16 Jesus was clear if we don't have compassion we will end up in river of fire mat 25 36 Francis of Assisi was the perfect example of love
I went in Sam’s chat once and said I’m not longer Catholic and I think the doctrine is evil. The chat all started calling me evil and told me to get out. You shall know them by their fruits. Not very welcoming and Christian like over there
Do you think before writing/talking?
@@sealandsand1225Sam follower?
@@devadasnyou are dense
@@sealandsand1225 What's your point? He/She is not allowed to say it "on his channel", not to hurt his/yours feelings??
Who do you think you are?
@@MultiSky7 He called them evil, they called him evil in response. Then he cries righteousness tears.
Same happened when on live about Bishop stabbing some objected, but he is heretic. Chat and Sam are in mindset if bringing Christians together not dividing it more.
Revelation 3:3 KJV
[3] Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and HOLD FAST, AND REPENT. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Thank you
You really got some kind of steel balls to call Sam a heretic 💀💀. Now he's gonna make 10 rebuttal videos of your video
While I wouldn't use that language I know what you mean. haha. He is a tough guy when it comes to bible debate.
I wouldn't mind doing some back and forth videos with him tho... would be fun.
I sincerely thank you for pointing it out to the person commenting that you would not use that language. It’s really offensive I think.. especially on such a good Christian channel. I’m trying to not let it get to me ..since I was looking forward to this video.
Oh no!... Anyway.
@ultravegito4339 Sam Literally butchers the bible and he needs to be told point blank. Muslims have no Theological Foundation apart from the unteachable spirits in them ; It takes resilience and time to impact the gospel in them. However, that doesn't Mean that If One continuously engages them in their doctrines ,it implies that he/she is Superior to Biblical texts and can manipulate it whichever way and assumes his RIGHT!
Sam Shamoun needs to be told that his teaching are against the Holy Spirit inspiration.
Funny how God keeps doing the sorting right before our eyes, out of their very own mouth as they call others false! 🤔Wild!
We are to Obey! Obedience is not works!!!
I once liked this channel! Moving on! ✌🏼
2 Peter 3:14 KJV
[14] Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may BE FOUND of HIM in peace, without spot, and BLAMELESS.
It is so easy to fall into error when trying to explain James' words.
I just want to add that according to words of Jesus, obedience is rooted in love not faith. "Who loves me, will obey my commandments. "
Also it is incomplete to try to explain faith or define it dismissing Hebrews 4:12 and words about faith from Romans.
Thanks for exposing this guy!
Felt like you’re one of the decent underrated Christian apologists nowadays..
However though we never be justified by work alone, there is something more than just by mere vague believing..
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9
My question is: Did the centurion at the foot of the cross right there and then was saved by just believing Jesus as the Son of God alone?
God bless!
Juan, this is a classic question that's often raised. Is salvation by mental assent (just thinking and feeling saved) or is it about action and signs/behaviour and a life lived in a Christian manner (the works). There has to be evidence and proof of a saved life and more than just mental assent...the thought of salvation.
@@Spartanthermopylae yes. But what I’m asking here is the objective of your faith. Not plus work. If you just believe that he is the son of God would that suffice as believing describe in John 3:16? Paul says you have to believe that he was raised from the dead too. Thanks for answering though.
@@Juanrepublicnotion What does the term "son of God" mean to you? 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 & John 2:19-21 also speak of the resurrection.
@@Spartanthermopylae of course all of us Christians knew and believed the resurrection after it happened then and now.. and that’s because back then it was explained further the way you explained it now.. I’m not arguing that or here.
But there were people, like the Centurion at the foot of the cross, who just really believed He is the Son of God period. My question is: would this suffice as believing that saves? As described in John 3:16.
Keep in mind Jesus just died here at the foot of the cross. No one have ever imagined, or understood in the case of the disciples, about resurrection yet until it happened, much less of the thought that Christ died for our sins as Paul/ you have described in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
P.S. im trying to correct my post earlier
It is Romans 10:9 not mark 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
I’m not talking about works here. But it’s not just merely by that vague thoughts of believing Jesus though… as you can see the verse above to at least utter the word Jesus is Lord and believe God raise Jesus from the dead.
Obedience is simply not "acting" and not "working" in sin. Simply avoiding sin. Avoiding sin is not works
Yes. But we are declared righteous based on Jesus' obedience to the law.