The DUMBEST Watch Rolex Makes is Discontinued | Was It Any Good?
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2022
- So the 41mm OP in turquoise has been discontinued (36 is still available). In this video we look at the tulip mania surrounding the colorful Oyster perpetual line, but also check out if the watch is any good even if you could buy it at retail.
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For $4k, this is a great watch. But not at $10k+ or even at retail it’s a bit overpriced. A Tudor Black Bay 36 on a bracelet new is $3k, used on a strap under $2k. Omega Aqua Terra can be had for under $5k. There’s better options for less money than even the OP at retail. I love the OP, it’s one of my favorite watches. But they are just way too expensive.
Totally agree with you Brett 👍. I'll patiently wait for prices to come back to reality
yeah i wonder why prices of Rolex watches went nuts. I guess the market is doing well and people's investments and stuff is going up, ppl have cash to splash around. Same thing with houses.
I love the OP, bit the price is out of whack. It's a great watch and versatile. But again, the price they're fetching is crazy
Yeah it's a shame more people can't enjoy the watch 😬
I like the OP but for me, they’re probably a bit overpriced even at rrp let alone the crazy market prices. They’re really nice and simple watches and Rolex manage simple better than so many other brands (why can nobody else see that well made tapered bracelets, good clasps and classic proportions are important).
Omega AT, various Grand Seikos and IWC mark 18s are all nice and actually available- but they all often have problems with their dimensions/measurements or bracelet/clasps that work against them.
Ops and DJs are very simple watches done really well, that’s what Rolex does best for me.
I appreciate how unpretentious you are with your reviews on this channel. I don’t want to put down any other channels but man, so many just jump on the same bandwagon, love and hate the same things, regurgitate the same stuff. I definitely APPRECIATE your simple and authentic reviews, your word choices, and your video content which always looks stellar. I also like Tim from Watchbox. You and him are the only two that say anything useful. Good job👏👍
I agree, Max doesn't pull his punches but also doesn't feel the need to grandstand his opinions, really well thought out commentary. Tim is probably the wristwatch equivalent of David Attenborough, I could listen to him all day.
Thanks omid, I'll try to live up to that 😁👍
Really annoying the OP is so hard to get in ANY colour... I've been wanting the 36mm classic size, as my one main watch, for 3 or 4 years now... even black or silver or blue are selling for over £8000 (retail is £4600 I believe)
And my ADs have not really been very optimistic. Basically suggested that I may wait for several years or may never get one at all, as they only do a "note of interest" and there are no guarantees I'll ever get a call....
The only option is to save up and pay over....
I really do feel that it's worth it...8k I mean
... not 25 or 30k that some colours are going for!
They are superb watches, wear so well, and with all the recent upgrades they are THE perfect one watch "collection"..
If money was no object, I'd go for the green... but not for £10-11,000 on the grey market!
DAMN YOU HYPE!
I'll just keep enjoying my 5600e G shock in the meantime.. a little more affordable at £58
Word is Rolex prices are softening. Let's hope they catch up with production soon!
@@WatchCrunchOfficial it would be great... I'm not too rushed. The green will probably be discontinued. Can't do much about that... but I'll find a black or bright blue at some point
Same here in Japan. The OP is really hard to get in ANY SIZE AND COLOR. Rolex boutiques in Japan doesn't seem to have a "note of interest" kind of thing, so we'd have to visit a lot of ADs multiple times and be lucky to be there on the right time they have a stock.
Japanese people calls this journey on visiting multiple ADs for months and years of a long time, a "Rolex marathon" ... Sounds stupid, doesn't it?
Well, I've done it myself. I was on the rather lucky side to get my hands on the OP 34 silver dial in just half a month, but I'd never wanna do it again.
I hope you'd be able to get yours soon without running around multiple ADs like I did.
@@L3M0N4D3C4NDY thank you so much! It's such a marathon indeed!
Get a Ball watch. It's built better, has a better movement, better lume, excellent pedigree and much better value for money.
Thanks for another great review. And happy to see you've recovered from your bout with COVID. Looking forward to your next installment!
Thanks Mike! Nose should be unplugged for the next one 😂
I would say a few years before the Oyster Perpetual hype really skyrocketed, I thought that was perhaps the perfect Rolex for me, IF I were to get one. It ties into a vintage 1974 Rolex Op I had, but the OP stood for Oyster Precision, and it was a manual wind movement instead of an automatic. Additionally, it was very clean and simple with a silver dial and 34 mm case. Because it is a manual wind only movement, and it's smaller than usual size, at least in these modern times, I used it as my dress watch which it fitted the role perfectly being so simple and clean and classic... And thin.. i forget measurements, but it was no more than 9mm thick.
Anyways, going back to the modern OP, I had my heart set on the white dial 36mm. It has the double batons at the 963, but, this was before they did them on the latest ones with all the colorful dials. I thought it unique because only the 36mm had them at the time and the 34 and 39 had the single larger ones. Additionally, I like it had an outer minute track with some Arabic numerals which was also unique to the 36mm version I am referring to.
Anyways, that was then. Now?.. Forget about it. No way I'm paying the huge markups. Still appreciate them, just I'd rather spend a lot less on many other watches which there are no shortage of good value watch offerings out there these days.
The price thing is real. I moved 2 watches earlier this year because the prices were just out of control. I didn’t even enjoy wearing them anymore.
Yeah that sucks the price takes the fun out of the watch!
Think this works in both ways. I've sold my subs and will probably sell my yachty aswell because of the stupid prices. But at the same time ive discovered so many other watches that arent Rolex that now inhabit my collection. You can get so much watch from another manufacturer for a grey market priced sub.
It's a great watch! Worth it at 5-6k, but silly at secondary prices. Gotta have fun in this hobby. I may have an Oris Cotton Candy inbound that will clash with everything lol!
Rock on rod, do you 😎
I love the OP, specifically the 39mm white dial, I had it in my hands a couple of times at the AD and I never pulled the trigger waiting for an special occasion to buy it, then It was discontinued and prices started increasing. I will never pay more than retail for this watch.
Yeah that was my conclusion. Would buy at retail, not a penny more
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I’m on the list for the blue version, maybe in 10 years, hehe.
You won't own a Rolex for a while then
Love it. Matches a lot of Nee Mexico jewelry. Wanted the bigger one from the moment I saw it (early on) - no luck getting one at retail but got the Monta which is pretty amazing and has the date (which I like). Love the Oris Cervo Volante in blue too, and the Halios in pastel blue. So more affordable ones are out there.
If you want to talk stupidest Rolex, the 36mm black dial Oyster Perpetual is $5800, the 36mm Explorer is $7200. Both have an oyster bracelet with an easy link, both have the same movement, polished bezel, and 100m of water resistance. You are paying $1400 for a Mercedes’ hands and some new indexes. Especially since it was an oyster perpetual that summited Everest, and the explorer was just released to celebrate the expedition. That being said the explorer is my favorite rolex and one of the favorites in my collection. Watch collecting is not logical haha
Yeah, logic went out the window long ago 😂
No date, no pushers, no rotating bezel - count me in!
Nice video. Gotta admit I do like that turquoise (Tiffany, do'h!) dial. It really does pop off the wrist. I noticed a number of other brands introducing their version of that dial. I used to think it was for women, but now I'd consider wearing it. Rolex does a brilliant job with its version. Obviously, AP does it nicely, also.
Yes a very striking color, maybe too striking for me 😅
The aqua and pink dials are my favorites, but not worth paying over retail.
What I think of OP ? I have one since 2019, so 😍 (369 explorer style blue dial).
Oh that's a fav of mine 👏👏
I don't usually like Rolex watches at all in terms of design, but the exception is the Rolex OP. Sometimes I want to just sell my whole collection for the white 39mm version.
Nice video man (all of them)
I really love watchcrunch, are you working on an app? If yes, when it will be released?
Yes yes, an app is being worked on as we speak, no ETA yet but soon!
Thanks man, I will wait for it, it is a very nice platform /social
I have had a 1953 OP 34 with a white linen dial for year. It’s my go to watch, but I have to baby it. I would love to acquire new white OP 36. Any guesses on when a white dial will return? Not that I could nab one… 🙃
Those vintage linen dials were something 👍
I personally like "the entry level" Rolex watches. Like the colors but kind of contradictory as someone looking for an entry level Rolex probably will not dare to make it less usuable with these flashy colors....
I wouldn't ever swap my Oyster perpetual date 34 for one of these.
Rolex attained perfection with it.
Anyone know if the oyster bracelet on the OP is the same as the oyster bracelets on the DJ and/or Explorer 1? (For the current models only and ignoring size differences)
Got the Yellow one. Very pretty. The raise in the price is a bit freaky though? I'm told luxury watches are levelling out now but they just stopped making them? I wonder where the prices go next. What do you think?
I think prices will come down, economy was very frothy the last couple years
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I don’t know how long you’ve been into watches but people have been suggesting that for almost 10 years now and the prices just keep climbing. Prices may come down for the majority of watch brands but for a select few that will not occur. Millionaires aren’t looking at certain watches as merely a timepiece anymore. They’re considered a tangible asset that can be easily transported and traded for cold hard cash. Men could fly abroad with a briefcase of 12 luxury watchs worth millions of dollars. There was an article written recently by the financial times and run by a couple other reputable sources stating that a lot of mainland Asian millionaires have moved away from investing in real estate as heavily as they did and are turning to luxury wrist watches. Mainly Rolex, certain AP and patek, ALS, FPJ and ANY RM.
Someone once told me that the date function on a Rolex is just "clunky junk." Then I heard from someone else that, "it ain't a Rolex unless it has the date function." Hmmm?
I will keep my 36mm yellow dial. Purchased on 11/10/2021 (the Marine Corps birthday).
36mm yellow is the best, real rarity
This move will make people crave even more new launches, it is a similar strategy as Patek did when discontinuing the Nautilus, it elevates the model to the icon status, also elevating the status of the company for the future (and maybe prices accordingly).
Definitely, it's like doing limited editions without doing it 😉
Love the OP! …. In 34, 36 and maybe… just maybe … if it was the only one left… 39 but never in 41mm.
I am SO SO SO glad I was able to get both the Black-Dial not long after release from a local AD (first Rolex, first big watch purchase period actually), and I loved the thing so much I decided to ask them about the Yellow-Dial. LOVE the vibrant Yellow shown on the site, but the actual Dial looks like they squirted mustard on it and let it dry 🤮. Damn glad I was able to see a display model first. I decided on the Turq instead. But I always reach for the Black-Dial, still, so now I'm highly considering selling the "Tiffany" 🙄 and putting it toward my first RG piece since people are willing to pay so much. The OP is an amazing piece for the price (not talking market, as even the Black Dial is up there)... I was able to buy a 40mm No Date Sub from a family friend months ago, because even though I'm not a dive watch guy, that piece always gets to me somehow... Ended up hating it, and I honestly don't understand the Sub/GMT hype at all. I paid about the same for the TWO OPs as I did the Sub, and guess which two pieces I still own...? The OPs.
A 39mm White or Rhodium Dial OP is in my future... And for some reason I absolutely love the white grape. But I'll have to try one on before copping a 36...
I'm totally with you on the 39 rhodium 👌
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I might as well ask, since you replied... Have you ever owned one? It's a piece I've never been able to find at a GM Dealer local to me (I've looked all around trying to find one I can just check out... The 41mm OP fits my wrist pretty perfectly, but there's just something about the 39mm OPs I love), and while I'm willing to pay Market for it since last I looked they were still priced pretty fairly.
I'm definitely a "Black-Dial Guy" when it comes to most pieces, but the Rhodium 39 is just different enough to be worth the purchase. Especially if I can sell the Turquoise OP 41, buy a BNwB&P Rhodium 39, and have a very nice chunk of money to invest/put away in the fund I've been building up for my first gold piece. Hard to say no to that, though I feel like a dick selling the OP for so much after getting it for retail not long after release... If people are willing to pay it, I mean eh :shrug:
The one question I've always had about that specific 39mm OP was legibility... In certain lighting conditions, it's almost like the stick markers turn black (while the 3/6/9 are obviously larger/lumed). Would love to hear your opinion if you've had any time with it hands on!
Great content, by the way!
No idea how I'm just being recommended your channel NOW, with some of the W&W content you've put out. Late to the party for sure, but still glad to be here. Keep up the great work!
@@idonotexist_ can't say I have, tried one on briefly. I think polished hands will always have that issue but the facets help to reflect light in different directions. Thanks for the kind words 😊
@@idonotexist_ Grand Seiko does legibility great but its better to see them in person. My regrets are not buying white OP39 and blue OP36 with 369 dial. I told myself there is no rush they are still going to sell them for years to come and I was so wrong. There is no dial that would speak to me in current Rolex offering since then. I ended up with Grand Seiko Spring Drive and watch is great - normies dont recognize the brand, nobody is asking if watch is fake and gliding of the second is unique. I learned that there are so many great watches at all price points that nobody should buy Rolex over MSRP.
I like the 36 mm Turquoise Rolex Oyster Perpetual a lot.
In a perfect world, a 39 mm, single markers only model would exist. Check Long Island Watches ISL-85 to see what it would look like (bought one, by the way, since getting the OP is not an option for mere mortals)
I'm with you, the 39 was great 👍
How to buy them at 5-6k$?
Great video, Jonah's hair is mental but in a great way and he seems like a cool fella. It's a well made thing but I definitely couldn't pull off this watch, if I wore this down the Rugby Club I would get no end of shit. I just don't move in the right circles.
Haha Morgan, I think I also need hair like a rock star to pull of the watch 😉
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Yes Max we're condemned to sober watches, gutted.
In my opinion this watch will be a classic in years to come I think it's rrp is about right I am on the wait list for the milgauss this will also become one to have in a collection
I just got my 41 OP silver after two years on a wait list. At AD pricing - it’s amazing!
Wow, you're so lucky ! I want a silver or blue one too!
To be clear they didn't sue La Californienne over the mods. They sued because they were marketed as Genuine Rolex using Rolex's marketing iconography without authorization. The complaint uses the word counterfeit. As in NOT genuine. There are several companies out there that do the same thing. If La Californienne marketed their stuff as aftermarket modification I don't think Rolex would have sued. If not for the branding I think Rolex would have left it alone as all it did is give greater coverage that people out there were doing this. I really don't see Rolex seeing them as competition.
I think la Californienne was pretty clear from the jump that they were not selling original Rolex
@@WatchCrunchOfficial they weren't. That was the whole crux of ROLEX's complaint. Part of the resolution - The settlement, which does not appear to have been settled financially, means that the company can no longer use any of the Rolex registered trademarks or any reproduction, counterfeit, copy or colourable imitation of the Rolex registered trademarks. This includes on its website, as a keyword, metatag or in any descriptive part of the site, in connection with the advertisement, promotion, offering for sale, or sale of its altered Rolex watches.
It seems everyone in on the pastel hype train which limits options in what people wear compared to black or white which goes with everything.
Yeah definitely more of a 4th or 5th watch in the collection.
I would rather have the Halios Seaforth in pastel blue. The blacked hands and markers make a big difference.
I saw a Helios the other day and now I want one! But they are also very limited 😭
Love the channel, keep putting out the good stuff!
Now people can get this watch with balls on it. I love balls.
the crazy rolex market really muffles my interest in the brand.. and i thought the prices 2 years back were wacky
Yeah, I'm patiently waiting the hype to die down so we can just enjoy the watches again
I really like it, but doesn’t have to be one of those super special colours, that are unattainable anyway. I want the design and movement.
Yes, I also prefer the "boring" colors 😁
I love the bracelet, crown and the dials on those OP's...nothing else!
I feel that the Turquoise, yellow or red are just too much of a target for thieves.... not that I can get one anyway, but it's good for my head to know that...I wouldn't feel right wearing one anyway... they are all fantastic. Any colour
Oh is that a big prob over there? They definitely attract attention!
@@WatchCrunchOfficial probably not up in Scotland as much.. but if I pass through London or travel, I'll feel the need to wear a G shock instead! Once I get the black or sunburst blue, I won't feel the same worry
@@Valera_Scotlanddidn't Adrian almost get robbed for his sub in London? 😬
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I believe so... I guess you can get robbed anywhere for anything! There will be someone crazy enough out there to rob me for my G shock too!!
I’m not a fan of the watch but that watch looks great on ur wrist man
Haha, I happily returned it after a week 😉
I like how you matched your outfit with the watch 💯👊🏽
Thanks! I'm a dandy like that 😁
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I do the same 😆
I love the simplicity of the op. It's clean. It's perfect. I'd love one in 36, not that ugly "tiffany" though. Not for me.
It's not the dumbest watch that Rolex makes, it just lured the DUMBEST people out there to try and flip the $5k watch for $100k. Now that's real dumb.
Haha, yep 😂
Are the ones trying to flip the watch for 10x msrp dumb or are the ones buying it dumb. It all relative if you ask me. I remember people calling those who were paying between 16-18k for this watch last year dumb. Now in retrospect were they dumb? Dealing with facts, this iin 41 is an extremely rare modern Rolex which was made for less that 18 months. A rare modern rolex is almost unheard of. It is more a less an unofficial limited edition release. I believe less than 2500 each of the coloured/ Stella dial OP 41’s were made. That’s an extremely limited number considering the demand they have stirred. They are presently solely sought after by serious collectors and I don’t see the price ever dropping below 40k…. Unless some other global phenomenon occurs…. And in that case everything may be gone to shit… not only the watch market.
I absolutely love the blue and the pink, they're a great $5k watch. The insane secondary market is not worth it and I think in time it will go back down when it stops being the it thing on social media
I also prefer the older OP looks. Considering my hate of Mercedes hands and the cyclopes, I feel like the OP is the only model I could get from rolex but to me they ruined the design. They made is very blah...
This is the reason I won’t purchase a Rolex….plus I don’t have enough celiberity to purchase a Rolex or get a free Rolex. The bottom line: There are a hell of a lot of great watches that will go head to head with with a Rolex at a reasonable price.
One silver lining is that this price phenomenon has made people look harder at other brands 👍
Hearing about them suing a mom and pop shop that was doing this before they were doing it to their own watches actually has made me realize that I never want a rolex now. I hate it when companies do this and I will refuse to support one that terrorizes small groups like that, not that I'd ever have the money to get a rolex in the first place but wow did that just at the drop of a hat change my opinion on rolex as a company.
I believe that a watch without a date function at least isn't worth considering, that's me for sure.
Not sure about turquoise, at least on me.
OP36 is more proportional and more attractive watch
It's a good fit 👍
"O"ver "P"aying "Pun intended" redefining Rolex!
Haha, yep 😂
Suits you Max, Jonas should gift it over…🤔😂
I can’t help but view it as a woman’s watch, and also wonder if Tiffany didn’t feel a little ruffled over it, all the more after they subsequently participated in the Patek release. If it weren’t for the boost the Nautilus gave the “Tiffany” OP, it would be profoundly karmic considering the legal action taken by Rolex against the California couple. As ever, Rolex remains highly polarizing.
Agreed Jon, I still find these colors quite feminine. Maybe I'm old fashioned
Yep. It's a woman's watch for sure. Not sure how any self-respecting man would be seen wearing one.
What is the price of this watch now
I'm wearing that watch,
Except it says Casio and tells the time better.
I also saved myself $4,960.
How much is an oyster link? 😄
Prices have not really come down
How is this watch dumb? There is no watch in the world more desirable and more popular for a cheaper MSRP; this is the prime example of Rolex's power over the entire watch industry. Watch collecting did not become mainstream popular, and other brands like Patek and AP didn't become "out of stock" until Rolex sports pieces were difficult to find. Rolex single handedly raised the entire watch industry, as unfulfilled Rolex demand overflowed into ALL other brands. Nowadays we talk about Gerald Genta, the long heritage of JLC Reverso and Cartier Tank, but we overlook the fact we only started to care about those things until the moment we were no longer able to just walk into the AD and buy any Rolex we want. The mechanical watch industry is even relevant today, is all purely because of one single brand - Rolex.
Jeeze, you Rolex simps are something else... shocking fangirling.
The 41mm hasn't x6. Not even close. Don't look at the list price, look at the selling price. £15k-£17k.
You could n theory wear it 100% of the time, 24/7/365………other then maybe your bedding! routine. But is the AT and many others not fit the bill, of course they do. Got this little sweet Le Petit Prince IWC blue IWC, just friggin great. My Omega AT, my even Eterna 3 hander fills the need. But soon, ill be getting my (my) handmade 3 hander from Dornbluth, yes it was a 12 month wait, but they tell you the cue length. Ceramic dial, bronze case, special hands, etched and lumed numbers, rotor dedicated to my son as a heirloom, 2 straps that you chose custom made………wtf is this Rolex thing. Its over the top.
The pictures I've seen of Dornbluth are very impressive!
Isn't it still available in 36mm?
Absolutely it's still on their website ..but not for us mortals ... preferred customers and AD's pals probably. Who can blame them? Buy for 5k and sell for 25k the next day? I think it must be difficult to know how to behave around such items.. and I really don't think I'll get that call for the green OP... ever
@@Valera_Scotland They are listed for $25K but selling for more like $15K. Still high, but you know...Rolex. I think you will get the call, just have to be patient. I'm on a list for an Explorer I, purchased 1 Rolex from the dealer in the past. Told my wait time is 18-24 mths. It is what it is I guess
@@m.e.p.r thank you. I hope you're right! I was super keen on the green first, and nearly considered paying £9800 for one... but I've decided to calm down. If the only one I manage to get is black or the sunburst blue , well they are still the same quality watch, just a more common dial.. I think they are both good options.... I bought a Speedy from my AD a few years ago (now sold...too big)... so hopefully that will help. Same as you
Good luck with the Explorer...I tried on a two tone. I wasn't so keen on the dial , but it's totally personal preference .. brilliant watch
@@Valera_Scotland Also bare in mind you can swap the dial colour after purchase i.e. put your name down for the silver, then send to Rolex to get whatever colour you like (whatever is currently available). Loads of people did that to get the Tiffany blue. Costs about £1200 for Rolex to do this and there is absolutely no way of telling really. Might be an easier way to get the green dial variant that you want. You don't get to keep the original dial though...Rolex hold on to that unfortunately
@@m.e.p.r oh really? Is this really possible? That's really interesting
So dumb I almost didn’t click on the video. But it was a good one, nice!😂
Tiffany does not own that Blue...Cuba does.
For 3500 this is the perfect watch. For 35000 this is a joke.
The indices are too long and those doubled just make the face look busy.
I love the color.
what a beautiful watch.
Most overhyped watch in history. Should not cost more than 2k (euros).
did you see how they fucked up the new air king?
Just wondering, are you Korean? 😮
"I don't care what you think" - the perfect Elon Musk watch.
Why click bait the title
Not attainable. Sighs
Time my friend, let's hope 😅
Hey man, would it be too much of an ask to refrain from having that one bit of reminder to "hit the like and subscribe button" I think your content is good enough to not require such a trivial request. IMO I find it distracting and quite annoying as most YT content creators are doing the same thing and it's starting to be ubiquitous enough for people to not care. Other than that--great content as always.
Nobody likes doing it, but it clearly has an effect so that's the game we have to play on CZcams 😞
Do not compare the iconic date just to a damn entry level watch how dare you the only reason that Daytona is famous is Paul Newman it is a bulky ugly ass watch til Paul wore it
"It's just case, dial, movement and bracelet."
What about hands? I'm pretty sure I see some hands.
Forget Rolex... Go for San Martin much better value... IF you are too rich... Also Forget Rolex... Get Patek... At least they are better designed and decorated inside out.
So based on the title.. the Calatrava is the dumbest Patek Philippe watch? Are you really into watches Max?
Yup
Every man needs a ROWLECKS
It’s discontinued because it’s dumb 😂😂😂
It’s back with some balls now. 🤷🏼♂️
😂😂😂😂that intro
😁👍
Beautiful looking mom and pop.
Please these Rolexes are a joke....its like buying a Chevrolet at Ferrari prices. AS THE QUALITY MAYBE OKAY BUT NOTHING SPECIAL....I would never buy one even though I can easily afford one. PT BARNUM said there is SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE and Rolex is laughing all the way to the bank. 5,000 to 15,000 dollars🤣
First~~!!
It is light blue , not turquoise! Why do you colorgrade the video to change its color so it fits your narrative? Everybody just feeding the hype train is so annoying!
I hope your life gets better dude... seriously 🤦♂️
OP design is cheap asf. When people talk about great things about Rolex they are not talking about baby entry level stuff like OP, Explorer or Air King. Get a proper Rolex or forget Rolex
just got the yellow dial one for retail