Rolex's Entry Level Watch Isn't Worth It.
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The Rolex Oyster Perpetual (or the OP, if you're cool, and sick of saying 8 syllable phrases) is THE entry level Rolex and on top of all that -- it's one of Rolex's best (at least we think so). So let's take a closer look at a watch that is trading at two times it's value and shows Rolex may just be one giant double reinforced bubble that will never ever pop. Does it beat the Datejust? Does it beat the DAYTONA (no, too different). Does it beat up people committing crimes in New York City? Find out!
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Great 6k watch, but a horrible 12k one.
Retail prices for Rolex are good value
Unless it is the Tiffany.
The Rolex OP is the only Rolex watch I like. I like the simplicity of the watch, it's understated look & the choice of dial colours. I bought a 41mm a couple of years ago & found that it felt & looked too big on the wrist. I sold the 41mm & now have two 36mm & find them perfect.
100% agree！ plus Explorer 1
36mm is the correct size 😜
No Rolex is worth it, over retail.
Your a smart man. Be patient and wait as long as it takes to get one for retail. These markets go up and down over time. Wait it out.
I actually laughed out loud at that B&J impression! 😂😂 PERFECT EXECUTION!
Change your name already!
@@Ninja_S1000RR-R why should she change it
DON'T CHANGE YOUR NAME!! 😡
@@BabyJesus66 likely a business tactic. She probably wants to be more professionaaaal 🙄. BORING! Lol. Will love her stuff either way.
Do not change your name !!!!
Actually I think you got this one wrong Michael. The OP is the most quintessential Rolex as Rolex is probably most famous for the oyster case and the perpetually winding movement - hence, oyster perpetual. Everything else you mentioned came later.
It also has a direct lineage all the way back to the 30s with the Rolex bubblebacks.
They have no idea..
It's not worth the price, that's what he means and you know it
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess non of them are my dear, price is much more then materials and metals, it’s about symbolic ,heritage, history. The OP is top class just like the Explorer is in his own class, and will surpass most of the modern models.
I would agree with this…
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincessworth every penny at retail
The OP and the Sub no date are the best Rolexes imo, most simple and has everything you need
Yes, the longer I collect watches, the more I go for time-only watches. I can use my phone for the date. For the time? Always a watch.
I agree… I have a new sub no date. So clean looking without the date.
don’t forget about the explorer
@@kymn1596 Haha, good one
@@rogerstrough3586 i thought we were talking about time only watches hahaha
I think this is - and Rolex actually say so - the essence of the Oyster. You get the movement that is also in the Explorer and the no date Submariner plus 100m water resistance. It's also quite understated if you choose one of the muted dial colours. In a way the green dial is even more of "the essence" as it is the Rolex brand colour. But yes, in terms of good proportions it's the 36mm.
It’s not really the Rolex green, though.
which are the muted dial colours? And could you possible rank the colors from worst to best by your preferefal choice?
That bark and jack impersonation was spot on lol
OP looks infinitely better than a fluted bezel, cyclops, jubilee datejust IMO... The OP looks like a classy sports watch at this point. Kind of like an explorer... but you can get it with various colors.
*Rolex says it’s produced in various dial colours BUT good luck finding one for less than USD 10K (15K for turquoise). The OP can’t be gotten at all, unless a buyer bends far over and takes it hard from an aftermarket grey market seller.*
Sports watch? More like a poor mans dress watch.
I have the 36mm in with 3-6-9 lumed numerals in blue; so basically a modern blue explorer in 36…for me its perfect that way
@@felixgutt6831 Nice watch, for a woman
@@rogerstrough3586 dont be cringe
I jumped back into being interested in watches in 2019, after a nine year break…where did this crazy giant watch trend come from?! 36mm just seems ‘right’ to me for a watch like this. Great review Michael.
You must have small wrists. 36mm is too small for a man’s wrist even if it is “traditional” so to speak. I think we’ve stepped up in size to 38mm as being the sweet spot. But at the same time I also don’t mind a 41mm. Certainly wouldn’t go anything bigger though.
@@matthoffman6962 according to who? Most the genuinely wealthy men I know seem to wear smaller watches. And no their wrists aren’t smaller. Any watches besides divers over 41/42mm are obnoxious.
@@Yarmox according to watch manufacturers who almost never produce 36mm watch sizes anymore.
@@matthoffman6962 all the major ones do though
As someone who has an 8½" wrist, it's a 41mm for a minimum for me, with 43mm as a sweet spot.
We are sitting down and drinking coffee. LoL. I love the impression.
The Oyster Perpetual is a nicer looking watch than most other Rolex watches. I think it looks much nicer than a Sub or GMT Master II or a Yachtmaster or anything. A lot of Rolex watches look pretty gaudy. The Oyster Perpetual looks classy.
I own an OP 39mm purple grape (2019) with a 7.5 inch wrist and it's perfect. Also, IMO the dials on these older discontinued 39's are so much more interesting then these new versions.
That and the rhodium 39mm are the only OPs that interest me....but especially the purple.
I am still sad the 39s went away. I find the 36s to be too small for my wrist/height/taste, but the 39s are a sweet spot. That nice balance between sporty and a little bit dressy. For a dress watch, sure. These are not that though. Honestly, 39 on me looks like 36 does on regular people. 41 is just all out sporty looking in the OP style of watch. I think Omega has a nice compromise in the 38mm Aqua Terra. That's why my father picked that one up vs. the 41mm AT, even though he has a bigger wrist than I do and can pull the 41 off quite easily.
I have an op 39mm blue dial I love it had it for 5 years now :)
I Just bought a 39mm with blue dial. And I Love it.
That bark and jack impersonation 🤣🤣🤣
The B&J part was hilarious 🤣🤣
That bark and Jack was scary spot on
The Rolex OP at retail price seems just okay but more than the retail price then it become ridiculous, not worth it
Even at retail its a stretch, What a boring watch. If you work at the back office at a car rental maybe
The DJ fluted bezel is not 8600 USD, maybe 10 yrs ago. I just purchased one 2 months ago from an AD, mint dial, very nice. Like someone said in the comments, I plan to hold onto it forever. It'll make a nice heirloom. The OP is a nice watch but underwhelming. A good deal if purchased at retail price or small premium. I would certainly rock one at retail, especially that green dial. I would pay a moderate premium for the pink dial 41. That one is ridiculous. I am waiting for this market craziness to subside and be able to buy it at 2k over retail. In time, with patience, I believe it will be possible.
The 39 mm Rhodium is the most understated and elegant choice of OPs.
And if you got it a couple years ago it’s worth double now hahaha
The fact that someone would pay 12000 for this is mind boggling. 5k is pushing it.
*Not to a buyer worth million$*
@@joeskeptical4762 A buyer worht millions wouldnt buy this entry level pos at seconday prices. He would get it from an AD Let me know when Mark Wahlberg wears an OP (except the "tiffany" of course)
@@rogerstrough3586 *: I don’t agree with the term “entry level” applied to a Rolex, no matter how many times it gets erroneously repeated. Lots of people repeat “won the popular vote” referring to a presidential election, or say “assault rifle.” Both are wrong because neither exists BUT that doesn’t slow down the repetition. “Entry level” suggests more movement after going in but most Rolex buyers do not trade up or around the range. I’d say the OP is the finish line 🏁 not the entrance, for nearly all OP buyers. As far as calling it a “pos” well......that says A LOT more about your thinking than the watch.*
@@joeskeptical4762 yes, even to a buyer worth millions, this is a bad deal.
In Singapore this is selling for 16000 USD
What extra shock resistance does the current Explorer have over the current OP? Per the Rolex website they both have the same movement.
*None, the insides are the same.*
@r2l100 the crystal is far more robust than the intricate mechanical bits inside.
Michael, I know you love the club campus. Just wondering if it ever bothers you that it has this sports watch look with a dress watch movement? For me it gives the impression it can take a beating, with its form and 100m water resistance, but it’s really got a movement that’s quite susceptible to shock and magnetism. I believe the delicate alpha movement is really more suited to dress watch forms like the Tetra you’ve mentioned on here before, because it seems more fitting rather than being “a sheep in wolfs clothing”. Just my 2 cents, love the club’s look, I wish Nomos would develop an automatic that was robustly durable to fit it, rather than just making it entry level and sticking in the alpha.
I guess going with this video, what Rolex does. Anything sports, even the entry oysters are all sufficiently durable and match its appearance. Aka it can take a knocking. 30m on the Tetra is appropriate so people don’t swim and jump off cliffs with it, it’s pretty easy to damage the Alpha caliber.
The Rolex OP is the most original Rolex you can get. It carries the brands successful innovations O and P on which every other sportsmodel from Rolex is based on, from Submariner to Explorer and also DJ to DD. You can not take the DJ and describe the OP as the non fluted and non date version. These are two different models. In addition to that the OP design is just phenomenal. Nothing that disturbs, very clear and elegant. A watch why watch enthusiasts would love the Rolex brand. Nothing showy and blinky. Just perfection and quality. A perfect connection between a sportswatch and a dress watch. The real essence of the brand. I mean these are the undisputable facts that every watch expert should know before setting up a review. The purpose of the OP is not to collect all type of colors. I mean all other models have colorful dials, too if you include the gold models as well.
Mike, I have really enjoyed your solo videos and I especially enjoy the lack of bleeping out!! Thank you!!! 😁👍🏽
Please can I ask I bought my grandson in 2020 I asked for a 2019, oyster, perpetual date just 36 mm is that a good choice for a man because he won’t get it till he’s 18 And is only three years of age now
I just got the new 3861 Metas Hesalite Speedmaster and I love wearing it everyday! I love that it’s taking on my memories of hanging with my kids, going skiing, a big gouge from putting an IKEA family coffee table together… although I still would like an entry-level OP 41 Blue, well, because it’s Rolex! I do also love the fluted bezel and jubilee of the Datejust, but I don’t like to be flashy so I think the OP is the perfect GADA watch to take on memories, just like my Speedy! Love you channel!
At 6’ ft 185 lbs & 7” wrist for perspective- got 34mm OP Black best of the lot esp with symmetry & small roman numerical touch !! I swear, can’t wear anything bigger anymore not even 38’s - Small watches were perfect & more people are realizing it !!
Shhhh don’t tell people that small watches are dope.
@@bdg5593 hahaha!! Now that you mention, I do see the point must zip it 🤐
I'm smaller than you are, but used to wear 42-44mm and bought a 114200 a few years ago (34 mm), and the larger watches are gathering dust...Black dial is the way to go 👍
Unfortunately they discontinued the 34mm Datejust.
@@tbprofile1295 yes I tried for 114200 in black or white (no Luck buying) it would be a tad better as it wears bigger to 124200 but nonetheless 34 for W 🥇
I have a 15 year old OP. It still keeps perfect time.
Got a 36mm pink OP two weeks after they were released for my wife from an AD - no purchase history with this particular AD! She wore it everyday for over a year, never cleaned it or polished it. Used it as a Rolex should be used, it was fairly scratched up and was still able to sell it to a dealer straight away for €13k who in turn sold it for €16k within a week!Absolute madness! Fingers crossed the market trend continues and the actual enthusiast get the watches they actually want 🤞🏼 Great video as always - for a second I thought I was watching a Bark&Jack video 😂
I LOVED Elvis and think Austin Butler did an amazing job in the role. The watches you could see in the movie were very nice although I was hoping to see a Rolex King Midas
No way it’s worth $5,800 (or 2X that on the secondary market). MUCH better and more interesting watches available with other brands.
5:51 Indeed, the crystal without AR coating looks like a cheap replica from wish
Can't agree more
Agree. I’d be hard pressed to justify $2800 - so many better watches with equal looks/movement/quality.
Why not? Some people don’t want a ton of features. Some just want a minimal simply luxury watch. Why spend 5k more for a chunky diver when I’m not diving lmao
@@WestCoastAce27Such as?
Is the green dial flat? It doesn’t seem to have that brushed shine like the deep blue dial. Seems like they went flat on all the colors except the deep blue, and the white though it’s a little more subtle in white
Just picked it up in 41MM. The dial is perfect ... its worth a lot more $ than you would think
Ive been on the list for this model in green for just about 2 years now. Truthfully its the only Rolex I actually want. I just love this particular green color.
Two years? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2 years for a Christmas tree-green faced watch 😭
Took me 2 years to get my op green 41 so hang in there
Im waiting close to 3 years or already 3 years..
@@Y0kiwi 3 already, but I have up and bought an Hermes H08 instead. Done with the Rolex games
Other than your comments about these OP’s selling for well over retail - agreed - this sounded like a complete endorsement. In other words, totally worth it.
The 36 mm is the right dress watch size - good for women, too - a nice unisex watch - below the radar when wearing this Rolex - like the 36 Explorer - great and humble Watch - and green is the Rolex colour
I would go as far as saying that no Rolex is worth 2x it’s MSRP, not just the OP. Take all the gaudy elements off of a DateJust and you’ve got the OP. Put a black dial on it, you’ve got an Explorer…
BINGO
DJ is their best watch though
Rolex watches are like Mexican food it’s the same thing in a different format
That's wrong though. The hands are completely different, it doesn't have the Mercedes hands. The 3, 6, 9 numbers are missing. The 12 o'clock triangle is missing as well. So no, it's not an OP with a black dial.
Hats off to your videogropher! This is the first time I've seen the OP green, and thought, "I gotta have that!"😉
I own a OP green it’s an awesome watch!! Please consider checking out my small channel
Most new watches won’t age as they traditionally did before. Scratches and marks on cases/bracelets will be the new “patina” going forward. Nice video and topic.
Very true
@@WatchUnwind 🙏🏾
spot on Bark and Jack impersonation
Only kept my 85 datejust. Keep rocking my Railmaster '17 and Seamaster 300 Trilogy, an OP would be fun, but yeah, we got Swatch too- ;)
*Edit* At their old retail price, they are worth it. Over 6k... Not so sure. I bought my OP 39 a few years ago for NEW for 4700. Now I think it's worth 12, used with a healthy amount of minor scratches. Absurd.
*Not absurd to the seller who’s making a $7,300 gain!*
@@joeskeptical4762 If that's what they're in it for. But you can't time these things. I just got lucky. I wouldn't sell it anyway.
I was fortunate enough to be given a black dial OP39. It's just the perfect watch for every occasion.
Just not reading the time in strong light because Rolex buys the cheapest sapphire crystals on the market without AR coating
@r2l100 I am not trying to be negative, but it is super inconvenient not to have AR coating in 2022. As much as I love the flutted DJ, often I have to twist it so I can read the time. I am even thinking to sell it for this reason, I honestly don’t think it is worth the money.
@r2l100 only two watches have AR, which is laughable for a “luxury” brand which is charging so much money for a watch.
As for other watches, I do own Bretlings and Omegas and they are so superior in this regard. You twist and move them in light to see the color hue, which looks fantastic.
@r2l100 The older Omegas did not have AR on top as well, so there is nothing to be scratched. The new ones have AR on both top and bottom, which in my opinion, is the best implementation I've seen so far as it cuts the reflections a lot more.
Breitling only uses AR on the underside of the crystal. It is really good, perhaps the best in the industry for only one layer of AR.
Now, as far as I know, Rolex only used double sided coating (as on Omegas) on the new Cellini. The new Explorer is using AR only on the underside, but it is pretty bad to be honest, at least when comparing with the AR from other brands.
@r2l100 what Omega do you have? Maybe it’s newer than I assumed
@9:30 agree, vintage clasps are way better... thin and still secure with no durability issues...
What's the added component for the Explorer to have added shock resistance than the OP??
Nothing, he apparently doesn't know what he's talking about
Looking forward to the GS Kodo review
Sup bro! What do you think of the Rolex Cellini Prince 5441/9? Your Reverso is sick af dog.
What wrist size, in inches, is the minimum size for someone to wear a size 41 watch?
7 inches I would say. The spec is actually 39.5 mm
The proportions of the OP 36mm are perfect and suit any wrist size depending on your level of confidence of course
An ironically insecure comment
Agreed 👍
Thats a gorgeous watch, I have an 06' GMT2 Coke and I would love this in addition
Got tired of waiting for this. Changed my option for silver 36mm DateJust with the classic fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet.. now THAT'S a classy watch for life. Don't go with the hype (unless the AD does call! The green OP is very cool..... at retail prices)
Datejust > OP always. It’s a more iconic design and easier to find a fair price white tons of options and variations.
How much time you've been told? Im on a waiting list for a DJ jubilee combo.
@@OscarRPalma A 36 will usually take a couple of months if you can get an AD to order it for you.
That intro was on point 😂
A simple, classic beauty that gives you everything you need in a watch and nothing else, perfection.
For all the headache and expenditure associated with Rolex, i would rather look for a basic design like this somewhere else.
My god I've never seen this watch in green, what a beautiful watch
a green OP or a Yachtmaster with Platinum bezel, date, and fantastic bracelet. Both 12K
Op's are extremely underwhelming which is why they sat stagnant in ad display cases a few years back. It then became one of the few attainable Rolex's from an AD! While we may not see subs and gat's sitting inside display cases, I wager that lesser models will become present in display cases within a year.
The problem with Rolex is that the rip off continues well after purchase. Service for $800-$1000. Even if it is every 5-7 years. It's too much FOR ME. I trusted someone else to service for much cheaper and ending up ruining the dial with water. Get a new dial you say? I was quoted $1,000 + installation. No thanks. Sold it. Replaced with a Glycine 36 Combat Sub for $379. Don't care about prestige of the brand. Rolex makes great watches but FOR ME I can't justify the cost and the service pricing.
14:00 wait, does the Explorer (1) have added shock resistance?
I thought, like the Submariner, it also had the standard 3230 movement.
Hey don’t forget about Rolex’s contribution to the “Perpetual” part of todays watches. Not the inventor BUT they refined it to make it what it is today and basically useful.
Yeah the long clasp is in need of refinement
I'd go for an Omega Aqua Terra instead.
You are misleading here a little, there's no added shock resistance on the Explorer I compared to OP. Same exact movement.
The OP is so classic like a E36 M3….its timeless design thats clean and simple!
This guy gets it
Interesting perspective...I thought the crown on the 36 looked way oversized and the 41 is perfect--LOL!!
Just got the OP 41 Silver Dial Gold Indices absolutely beautiful classic everyday watch well worth the price if you buy it from an AD.
You say the explorer has added shock resistance...are you sure? I can't find anything which supports that.
The black or blue dial is kinda worth it though.
Take down the grey market? Don't buy, period.
Great review I Thoroughly enjoyed it 💯🔥
The "problem" with the 41mm isn't the size (IMO), but the proportions of the dial and bezel, I think they're a little off for a no date watch.
I really don't see the OP as "basic" or "entry level" Rolex, it's just a no date watch, which Rolex only offers three variants of. The price also says otherwise 😂
I have a 2021 36mm Explorer, 2018 39mm OP White Dial and a 7.5" wrist. I love both and both look fine on my wrist. Smaller watches are where it's at.
*The OP 41 measures 39mm on the calipers.*
@@joeskeptical4762 As I said, it's not the size but the proportions of the 41mm OP that look off (IMO).
@@m.e.p.r *I agree. I looked closely at a 39mm Explorer in year 2014 and it felt off, so I held the same, off. I much prefer my 36 OP in the sunburst steel dial.*
I prefer the Air King.
The Op41 is the perfect fit for me, as a person with wrists like a blacksmith. For me, it probably looks like a 36 at the most people. I don't see any issues with this size. If sb doesn't like it, than he can take the 36 and be happy.
“I’m all alone. It doesn’t matter.” Story of my life. 😅
The yellow OP 36 haunts my dreams, I miss her sm
I agree
Agreed 100% The yellow 36mm was the king. I’m still hoping to get one someday. It’s was modern, classic, youthful, under the radar with perfect proportions
There is a much, much, much better clasp on some IWC, Glashutte Original, and ALS watches. It has on the fly micro-adjust but is much thinner and less bulky than even the Rolex Easy Link clasps!
I think the OP is like a Golf GTI, does everything very well yet always has the classic looks and linage behind it.
Yep. If the Golf GTI cost five times what it does.
@@chrishennemeyer7276 that’s if you can get retail, even GTIs go for above retail when they are new
Op 36 is my favorite gada watch
OP is their entry rugged sports watch in my opinion, datejust - whilst not a ‘dress’ watch is their entry flash / office watch. Whilst you can wear it playing sport, it’s meant for a suit. The OP can be worn with a suit but it’s meant to be worn sailing, climbing mountains etc.
I wear a 34mm on a medium size wrist and it’s my perfect daily beater.
@Yorkiepoocharlie haha, well - it works for me! I have 114200 silver explorer dial from 2014.
Op can be worn from anything to swimming, hiking, a casual day out, or a dressy occasion. A very do it all watch
That green dial though....cool....
I have the 41 mm green OP. It looks great, but I also have an 8.5 inch wrist 😂🦍
Just a great looking and performing watch.
I have read 904 steel actually scratches more easily.
That green watch is beautiful imo
OP 36mm is the best Rolex
If you are a child or woman yes.
12K? No way thats like SBGA413 + Pelagos/SM300 + 1926. There are like unlimited options to get sports watch, dive watch and dress watch for that kind of money.
I got the green at retail and I am super happy with it. I think I’ll hold onto it for life
Dam bro your lucky that watch is 🔥
I really like the OP, I like understated watches.
Agreed
The Ball Engineer 2 is everything a Datejust is and more.
Except there in no Crown.
And it's ugly
I wanted the 41mm green one... Until I tried it.
If only they had it the size of their deep sea or made a 45mm....
I like big
what? LOL
Urgh
A 45mm OP would look absolutely ridiculous.. the dial to case ratio without complications or a date would look silly
Agree the clasps on the new rolexes need to be more seamless and integrated
😕 it's the rhodium OP 39 for me. I should put a jubilee on it now you mentioned it
I really want the candy pink, but I'm not paying what they're going for
Thanks, Josh! Nice shots! 😁
'Babe look! It's under water and it's still ticking!' This watch nerd moment is SO relatable! 😂
The answer is no.
Most like Rolex as a cool status symbol, like the datejust and daydate but don't get the reason people want the OP. Seems so boring so is it simply because it's a Rolex? Seems to me that you just end up with a fairly stale watch that just so happens to be "a rolex". Why not get the new omega aqua terra 38mm in color. Some would say it's a copy but it's an actual good watch that looks beautiful and that omega seems to care about.
You are right. So I got both 😁
OP36 with stella dials going to be way more collectible compared to OP41.
prove your point.
@@chaosad4508 The 41 was Rolex’s internal code for larger OP. There were more OP41 made than OP36 and OP34 combined together, with ratio 4:1. Look at the finishing of OP41. The hour marks are squarish, the crown on the dial is small. It required much less labor to make it. During lockdowns keeping less people at the factory was crucial. I own both, OP41 and OP36 with stella dials. When I walk into the AD wearing those watches:
OP41 - it’s a nice watch!
OP36 - where did you get that watch?
Both watches are great. Both going to be extremely collectible. It’s just OP36 is slightly better proportioned, has the beveled hour marks, which makes them more sparkling, and better fitted crown.
debating with myself about getting one, green is my favorite, only thing in my position it would have to be secondery market and prices seem still unreasonable high, around £10k for 36mm is waaaay too much. Didn't know about 4:1 ratio etc.. thanks for the answer.
@@chaosad4508 very soon Rolex going to release stella Daydate. I would safe for those.Rolex plans to make all of their 36mm watches exclusive. Smaller watches are coming back in fashion. While everyone is chasing larger watches, I would add couple smaller ones into my collection. My holy grail watch is 36mm Daydate with Rainbow Baguette Diamond Dial Watch. It’s a far out of my price range. I am hoping someday I’ll get one.
You guys are really funny together, no offense to your brilliance
Love you guys! But listen yall are late to the party with this one, once OP became a wait list item with resale prices skyrocketing, it's become a distasteful time only watch that has lack luster hyper due to price & availability.
At retail, basically all Rolex watches are worth their price. Specs wise they are a little pricey but brand heritage and prestige makes up for that. At the inflated market prices 2-4 times retail, no they aren’t worth it. Look at Tudor or Omega.
Spot on I definitely agree with you, I was lucky enough to get two at retail but one I gave to a very close friend
My Explorer 124270 now comes with AR and makes a huge difference. Rolex should now include AR on all models.
Agreed
Micheal you remind me of Hughie from The Boys……no offence intended.
Great solo video again.