Why "INTELLIGENT" Men Still Fall For Rolex
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- I initially bought a Rolex as a reward for my business success, but you may be surprised to hear how the brand has let me down since - so much so that I've fallen out of love. I reveal the behind-the-scenes tactics that changed my mind, and why I now steer most buyers toward other quality watch brands instead. Discover the fascinating untold story only in my latest in-depth video.
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Antonio, everything you said is spot-on, but you missed *marketing as art.* Navy SEAL Jack Carr used the Rolex Sub-Mariner as an art piece in his novels. It is a quality piece, but it's more of a collectible watch and for his main character, it is indeed a family heirloom. I believe this is the proper perspective for Rolex!
I don't have an alternative brand, and this story explains why:
I have a mentor who is about 25 years older than me. He has a PhD, and his son recently got a PhD as well.
When my mentor graduated, he went to visit his wife's family in France. Then, they went to Switzerland, where he got himself a watch from a local watchmaker.
When his son graduated, he went to see extended family in France, and then went to Switzerland to get a watch from a local watchmaker.
My point is that I like having a story behind certain accessories. If I'm going to spend a few thousand in a watch, I would rather visit the watchmaker myself and have a story to tell people when they ask me, "Hey, that's a nice watch! Where did you get it?"
Omega for sure.
Omega and Grand Seiko are not better than Rolex 😂😂😂
@@alfieakaronaldog Of course I would expect that answer from someone that knows nothing about watches.
I have a GMT Master that I bought at the Navy Exchange in 1978 at age 25. The going price then was about $550, but the NEX was selling it for $350. As a teen I had regularly seen ads in National Geographic which described Rolex watches as those worn by adventurers. I went on to long careers in the Navy and Merchant Marine where the watch, rated as a chronometer in the pre-digital age was useful with celestial navigation. It has had a very regular rate of error throughout its life that was perfect to that kind of navigating. Retired now, I still wear it daily and continue to love it for the memory and connection with the life of adventure I was privileged to enjoy. I never saw it as a fashion statement but only as a tool and it has served well. When I die, it will be left to my son.
That use of the expected rate of inaccuracy monitored via a log ended a long time ago. Worldwide broadcasts of time signals of GMT were available after WWI and definitely for WW2. I suppose someone might still have kept the log as a backup to a backup. You could reset your chronometer just before taking a sighting. Sightings were at local noon and maybe once a night. Enjoy your watch, but that was the reason the ads said adventurers, not mariners.
Beautiful watch & story! Sounds like you got your money’s worth.
The true reason Rolex existed, a tool watch with a purpose and quality. I never really liked the brand, especially for the "FLEX" today but I respect their roots and tool watch development
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Hi. I was not born in 1978. In fact, I was -26 years old
Omega is the sweet spot for me. High quality watch that I can buy at any time. And it blends in. If you know, you know. Most people just see it as another watch. Love my omega speedmaster professional moonwatch.
Omega is a fine watch for those who can't qualify for a Rolex...Enjoy!
@@thetruthhurts7500 I prefer my Vacheron moon phase.
@@thetruthhurts7500 qualify for Rolex….lmao.
Look up the word..it is why you can't get a Rolex. @@dotover9013
You can buy them new, cause you can buy them at anything from 15-40% under retail on the second hand market!
As a kid, Casio was my first “grown up” watch in 2007 from Sears for $15. Only had to change out the battery once, still looks good & keeps ticking away.
classic
Agree ,my fist watch has also been Casio and still works the same after 15 years and battery has been changed only once .
As does a Honda do the same thing. Make mad money. I guarantee you 99% you will buy the Ferrari. Not keep the Honda…
These humble brag stories are cope. They aren’t real life and aren’t the norm. Ok if you’re an outlier yet exceptions don’t make the rule. If you had mad money I’m quite sure you wouldn’t be wearing a Casio anymore..
As a watch enthusiast, I can wholeheartedly agree with you. I too am a former Rolex owner but haven’t looked back since. There are so many better brands that provide better value at that luxury price point. With over 1 million units produced every year, it isn’t even unique. Highly desired? Yes. Rare? No. Plenty of other high horology and superior quality models and brands that actually care about their customers.
As a watch collector for over 30 years I disagree. True there are a lot of brands out there, but Rolex as a brand has lasted a long time mainly due to its reliability,design and marketing. I'm not saying EVERY Rolex is worth buying (Celini I am talking about you), but there are pieces which are classic for years to come. I personally don't really like 5 or 6 digits which I think a lot of people are very salty about especially the hype we have been experiencing for the last 10yrs as it is no longer a geeky hobby, but something people will flex on social media. My first love is a white 16520 when I was 12 (where no one in my social circle will know or would care). I never see it as an investment, I have been telling people to buy a sub at a "fair" price and wear it for 10 yrs and sell it around the same price you got it for or a bit more. Vintage watches is like art, it takes yrs to find a good example if you have a particular model you want. You need the know how to figure out what is original or not. Is not simply walking into and AD and buying this ugly Yachtmaster OP had shared. With the same money I would choose a 1016
@@phillipwong3754 Rolex may be more overpriced but they are extremely well made for a mass produced watch and hold that value so well it's price is irreverent. Big fan of gran sekio.
@@philipparana9225 I don't disagree they are well made watches. But I do agree with other is overpriced at least at grey. GS is a watch geek's brand where it deserves more attention. But is not visually pleasing to a lot of people (including myself). For example I went to a Revolution GS organised event in London, where as you probably know is like a known etiquette to wear the brand of the event. Not one single guest worn a GS there.
@regsantostomas What a crock 😂
Name the better brands/models?
Which Rolex did you have?
What was wrong with them?
Sell at a profit?
What have you got now?
Rolex are not High Horology lol
They are tool watches.
You seem to know a lot. People should 100% trust what you say 😂
Any high horology brand will be just as hard to get and will cost 4x the money.
Why doesn’t Rolex care about its customers?
I’ve own 2 Rolex’s (SSDJ) and two-tone Submariner for 40 years. I just broke the sapphire crystal (avoidable, but life happens). I dropped it by an authorized dealer for crystal replacement and servicing. The shop sent it to Rolex (Dallas) for review and estimate. The estimate was circa $7,300. The big ticket was a “new bracelet” which by itself was $4,800 as memory serves. I reminded them it was sent in for the crystal and service. The Rolex person said they either do “everything or nothing’. I told them to send it back. I’ve located a Swiss jeweler who will perform requested services without all of the crap. When I get it back, it going. I have everything down to the signed receipt and have been offered figures around $10K, I’ve replaced my watch with Tag and it works fine. Audios Rolex…
GS quartz for me.. Quality piece with minimal maintenance. As stated, no one really cares what watch we are wearing unless it's a watch-head. Great video!
And most of the people that care you have a Rolex care that you are successful, not that you're a knowledgeable person about watches. In fact, you'll go a long time trying to find someone who does care. But you'll probably have a friend, or at least an interesting conversation.
I’ll buy a GS when they put some decent lume in there
@@m3mario I can't disagree with you..... Lume doesn't add that much more to the cost..
@@lx95020 it’s not the cost. It’s the functionality.
I've owned a lot of brands over the last three decades from Blancpain to Vacheron to IWC, Zenith, JLC and more, and I have to admit I keep coming back to Rolex.
After my 51st trip around the sun and surviving 5 bypasses I wanted to celebrate by purchasing a luxury watch. I purchased a Longines because I could afford it.
I am beginning to get tulip crash vibes from the modern watch industry.
One of the symptoms of the widening gap between the rich and poor and the destruction of the middle class is that behaviours of the lower class change. Many people feel like they can't afford to own real estate or even have children. Indeed among the young I have heard that only 40% of people in the West intend to have children. Ironically this means that the poor have more disposable income which they spend on entertainment, eating out, holidays, clothes, pets and... luxury goods. The rise of Rolex is a sign of social decay and demographic decline and as you suspect will inevitably end very, very badly. By choosing to not invest in the future of our society, our children, we inevitably are creating false and unsustainable bubbles. All bubbles pop. This time many will explode simultaneously. Buckle up it's going to be a rough ride.
All the best.
Nah. Inflation will always trump along with these really aren’t mass market items. And if the artisans exit from lower demand or age deaths. Then the price will just keep going up. Not down as the scarcity goes up with less units made.
I bought a gold & stainless Datejust from the Armed Forces Exchange catalog in 1988 for $2300. It was beautiful and was dressy enough to wear to anything, but also not too flashy so you could wear it with jeans and a polo shirt too. I recently gave it to my oldest son and wanted to know how much it was worth and looked up the replacement cost for the same watch. I was STUNNED to see they're going for $12,000 now, and even the stainless steel Air Kings and Oyster Perpetuals are starting at $10K. They're as high as kites to think they are worth THAT much.
Yea there’s high prices and then there’s straight up Rape which Rolex now is.
Adjusted for inflation from 88 it would cost like 5K in today dollars, and then brands like this can charge more than that because theres plenty of suckers born every day
There's a market of investors who buy them and sell them on to other investors. I'd say they're more like fools. There are much better watches for the same price but the problem is that you can't sell them on for a profit.
The new ones yes but the older ones are priced much lower. Weird as those older movements are actually better quality.
i have a rolex oyster perpetual I bought in the 80's and still wear it It's a good watch but I would never pay anything close to $10K for one.
Completely agree, and agree the OP is underrated. Absolute classic and wearable in almost any situation. I choose this over the Sub without a doubt and reckon if purchased at retail (possible) it is likely to hold value over time.
Everyone has their opinions. Rolex has high quality and high value for the dollar time pieces. Watches are not investments. They are not a flex for other people to see. The watch is only for the person wearing it. Thats it, nothing more. Buy a watch that makes you happy.
Rolex makes a fine watch. I’m glad the Cellini is there, but for the most part the entire range isn’t very diverse.
Omega’s co-axial movements are more accurate, need less upkeep, and are just flat out better than Rolex. Plus Omega has a much broader range of models. Quite honestly, one could get a Seamaster Aqua Terra to have for all occasions and just be done it.
But if one is looking to flex, nothing has more recognition (to non watch enthusiasts) than a Rolex. It’s the Coke/Kleenex/Jacuzzi/Windex/yougetthepoint of luxury watches. Wear a $50k AP and 99% of people will probably not know you’re wearing pretty much an average yearly salary on your wrist…put a $7k entry level Rollie on your wrist and 99% of people think you’re a baller.
@@skellington2000I have to reset the date every couple months on my Planet Ocean. So of course I take the opportunity to sync the second hand while I’m at it. I find I’m off 30-40 seconds at the most. In two months, I can easily live with that accuracy.
@@skellington2000not a true statement. Omega co-axial movement watches are certified to the METAS standard which is more stringent than COSC or Rolex in-house. Not a Rolex hater btw, I own both Rolex and Omega.
Cellini was discontinued - dress watches are in the 1908 series now.
The classic watch enthusiast journey: Rolex is the best > rolex sucks > rolex is pretty great
Which size Explorer do you have? A traditional 36mm or a 39mm?
In the shot of you wearing it, it looked like a 39mm.
I'll took your advice on this, I'll buy a sundial
I gave my Rolex AD a charcuterie board after I recieved a call from them offering me a datejust. I was chuffed to bits admiring the rose gold finish while my AD talked with my wife in the back, something about daddy from what I could hear. Ciao
Peak WCJ.
I'm a Casio guy and certainly agree that anything beyond $25 is overpriced. 😂
I had a 25$ watch, lasted about as much. Garbage.
Must not have been a Casio then @@user_____M
@@user_____M - I have an apple watch which is more accurate than a Rolex. Also, I can't afford a Rolex. I just paid off my house and that consumed most of my savings, so all I have is emergency funds and about another $10K for leisure spending. But I can't just stay home everyday, so that leaves me with zero money for watches.
Says the guy without money.
So if you had 100 million. Making 4 million tax free yearly. You would keep the Casio…. Nope you wouldn’t. Hence comment by poor people humble bragging that being poor “is cool”. No it’s not. What’s cool is getting and buying and living the life you want.. you have one life. Why not live it like you want ?
It's crazy how these watches cost more than my phone but my phone is waaaay more useful for everyday life 😅
Nailed it. For a guy that rarely talks about watches and doesn't have a watch collection channel you nailed every point about Rolex. I'm not a fan of them either.
That's exactly how Rolex wants it...Keep the lower class out.
You call the OP too boring and then recommend the Explorer... I don't get it.
If you can't buy it 10 times you shouldn't buy it once.
This is a tough game. You can’t be intimidated. You can’t be frightened. And as far as I’m concerned, ‘Rolex’ can go straight to Hell.
I feel you on that fourth Rolex, I once bought a prometheus lights flashlight, the not quite custom line with the smaller battery, for a ridiculous sum. i only bought it because i put my name on a mailing list to inform me when it was back in stock. If they'd kept them always in stock (not really possible given that they were CNC machined), i likely would never have pulled that trigger. By the way, you've got a new subscriber, you quickly won me over. Anyone who can use gents as often as you do and make it sound natural impresses me. Seriously, the second and third times I was going Huh, says that a lot, then it quickly became, well that's his thing. Great content.
2:58 serious talk here, buyer's remorse is easier to get over with than not buying it at all. Our mind could go crazy with probability with what we could do with it if we buy it. So goes true that : Wanting is better than having
The mistake of being a watch collector versus being a Rolex owner. I got a Rolex Submariner in 1985 and have worn it everyday since. My dad paid $750 from the Navy Exchange. He bought a GMT Master from the Tokyo exchange in 1964 ($250). Both of these were lifetime worn in peace and war zones.
I agree. 25 years ago watch enthusiasts panned Rolex as basic. In the last 5-6 years those same types all the sudden liked the brand. I feel the reason really has to do with how they retain they value. They can buy and sell them without losing money…unlike most other brands. I plan on getting an Explorer 40 but no other Rolex interests me.
I agree with the message of this video.
I think if someone really wants a Rolex watch, the one they should buy is the one they can get the best deal on. That will rarely be a current production model.
And regarding how interesting their watches are - I agree, they are not (most of them, at least).
However, having said that, Rolex have an enormous pull. They are a great status symbol. When you wear a Rolex watch, everyone will know how much you spent on it. There is no other watch manufacturer that has the cache of Rolex. For some, this is what they want. And if you are one of these people, there is nothing better than Rolex for you.
However, if you are looking for a watch for other reasons, there's little point buying a modern Rolex. Many better options out there.
Solid point here Theo!
Exactly why I sold my Rolex for almost double what I paid. I don't need a watch as a status symbol as my acts as a person do all of the talking for me. I have several watches but most go under the radar, which is completely intentional. I'll leave the Rolex for the posers and thanks again to the mug who bought mine 😁
For the last 3 years, I have got into watches. Before that , I bought gold and silver since 2011. My favorite brand of watch is my Hamilton open face hart watch watch a cost of about $1.1k
Stick to Omega! Breitling too is making a good account of itself
This video speaks for many of us who have tried to buy a Rolex at the AD since the Pandemic started in 2020. At the end of the day the buying experience for new Rolex customers is much to be desired. Rolex seems to be more interested to appeal to the Patek Philippe buyer then the person buying one watch to celebrate a life event. The experience at the Authorized Dealer, where the AD wants you to buy thousands of dollars of stuff you don' want for the privilege of buying the Rolex you do want, is a turnoff for anybody who has self-dignity. In the meantime, so many other high quality brands with availability and affordability are out there.
Very good video, with points well stated. Perhaps none more so than how purchases like this are all about the EMOTIONAL impact. Rolex makes an excellent product, with the nigh-universal cachet to boot. Even though you can find MANY watches that are cheaper and "better" when it comes to the mechanics, engineering, artistry, etc., if it is a brand you never heard of, does it deliver that emotional impact? If not, then I agree with the Casio guys. Spend $25 for a super accurate, functional watch. Or $225 for one that also "looks really nice." The only reason to spend 4 or even 5 figures on a watch, is because of the statement it makes and the way it makes you FEEL. As overpriced as they are, hard to beat Rolex for that.
Its the same reason people buy iPhones, it makes you feel special because there are poor people out there who cant afford it.
I see this as absolutely degenerate behaviour but thats just my protestant upbringing and distaste for materialism and consumerism in general. Most people see no problem with it. They can go ahead and stimulate the economy by buying overpriced brand name items, I can get the same quality goods for a tenth of the price, and everyone is happy.
@@TheSuperappelflap Ok bro
Nothing is overpriced, the market determines what something is worth.
You being too poor to buy something, doesn't make it overpriced.
@@drsrsv8884 all hail the market. the market is always right. thats why the average home now costs 500K.
Iv got about 40 watches. But theres only 1 as far as i am concerned, thats my 1980s RADO integral, gold and black ceramic bracelet. Thats it. Number two on my list in terms of elegance and quality its my 36mm longines flagship. Its lovely, but nothing beats my RADO, not even my my other two RADOS.
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I have a Citizen eco drive 2 yrs old very slick had a reasonable price.
My go-to travel watch is a Citizen Eco-Dive GMT. Didn’t have to take it off while in Waikiki, Kona, and Guam.
This is an excellent video 👌 Great to hear some really interesting critique of the absolute hype-machine that is Rolex!
I have owned Apple Watch Series 5 and now am a proud owner of the Series 9. I love my watch, I can choose any look I want by selecting different bands and backgrounds. It makes me feel confident that I am not an idiot and reminds me when I need to drag my ass to the gym.
I got a Movado Museum timepiece in 2001 when I joined the Air Force for $999. I still have it, it looks great, and it will be the most expensive watch I'll ever buy.
I own a couple Longines and love them. But my first >$5,000 watch will be an Omega.
Exquisite horological taste 👍👌
Say what you will about Rolex, but at least it's a name you can pronounce correctly.
it's that way with women, scarcity, that some other guy might get her... then buyer's remorse.
The only Rolex watch that interests me in the least is the Sky Dweller. Generally I remain uninterested in Rolex watches for two reasons. First, they are technically uninteresting with little complication. Secondly, they have become the brand of choice for the big-hat-no-cattle crowd. I have yet to pay over $5,000 for any watch, because that would be inconsistent with my financial goals. I would rather discretely maintain a growing net worth that is many times the median for my age, while wearing a Grand Seiko, and sometimes looking like Lamont Sanford in my old red truck.
This is my first video of yours I watched and I am impressed. I am coming from watch youtube. Got 3 omegas and thinking of getting my first rolex
Another fact is that a significant number of Rolex owners don't even use their watches because they are afraid of scratches or other wear and tear. Their watches end up sitting inside as safe queens. They spend all that money but are afraid of using them.
These days there is another issue of wearing a Rolex and that is fear of robbery. There are tons of stories about people getting robbed for the Rolex watches.
So the question is that if you don't want to wear it after spending thousands of dollars on it than what is the point of getting one in the first place ?
To tell people you have one and try to feel better than them.
In London, teenagers are robbing people of their watches with machetes.
When I see a Rolex on someone's wrist, the first question I ask myself is, "is it real or fake?". So for me, it doesn't work as a status symbol because it actually makes me wonder if the person wearing it is actually wealthy enough to afford one, or if they're just trying to trick me. For that reason alone, I'd never buy one.
That’s one reason I rewarded myself with an Omega. Ever hear of people making fakes for them?
I got a submariner-date about 6 years ago… I’m an industrial equipment mechanic and I beat the heck out of my watch, I use it for time and date when making entries in log books… it is still running within 2 seconds a day, it still looks good, it still works good I think it’ll be a lifetime product for me. I’m very happy with my buy and I didn’t buy it to “flex” I had broken my arm and had that insurance that pays to help with bills, “accident insurance” I got just almost enough to fully pay for the sub. That amount of money won’t pay off my house or change my economic situation and if I pissed it away on a vacation or other things, I’d be sad that I wasted it. So I’m happy I used it on a nice watch. It’s basically a G Shock of the mechanical watch world. I got a grand seiko years later that broke on my drive home from the dealer and I took it back the next day. I look at Rolex as the Lexus of the watch world. It’s definitely something you’ll have for a while. Those Jacob and Co things or the RM’s are the rolls Royce and Mercedes of the watch world they are a status symbol.
It’s all about emotions, love my Sub, but I‘m much more connected to my Tudor BB; both are very reliable toolwatches; my next purchase will be a Glashütte Panolunar, blue dial or a JLC Reverso dualface… would never buy a watch over retail price, never saw a watch as an investment, Rolex design is iconic..
Everyone should buy what he wants and can afford… no one should be jealous, stay true to yourself, your value comes from your inside, your heart… success in life isn’t a material thing or money but the relationships you have…
❤ your content…
Facts
Rolex: The Harley Davidson of watches. I cannot justify spending 1000+ on a watch. I just cannot.
A brilliant video. I bought 2 Rolexs (second hand) 28 years ago, i kept them for 9 years and then sold them. Since that time i have had a number of different brands, and the one brand that stands out to me is Ball , incredibly happy with mine.
Great video! I bought a Rolex Submariner in my mid-30s and thought I was the shiz having one. Here is the problem. I seriously got tired of people asking me if it was real or fake. Also, when the new Omega Seamaster 300m and Planet Ocean came out I was blown away by how nice those two watches were.
Also, my Submariner lost a few seconds of time and I got tired of every month ending up being 5 minutes late because it was always 2 seconds slow a day.
So, I sold it and bought a black faced Planet Ocean and a blue faced 300m. Good gravy those watches are amazing. I wear the Planet Ocean the most and put a nice leather band on the 300m. Two watches for less than one Submariner that keep way better time and are modern looking. It was the best decision and honestly I would never own a Rolex again.
Finally nobody has ever once asked me if my Omega's are real, and I've had multiple compliments over the years about them. Best part nobody has them. 1/3 of the guys I worked with at the time had a Rolex but I've seen maybe half a dozen Omega's like mine in the last several years.
The best overall Rolex will always be Datejust in my opinion. It is the most classic and versatile.
Yes , and a good second choice is the Oyster Perpetual , no need to adjust the date, simple dial and very good looking.
I agree. When you bought your watch in 2017, it was expensive but justifiable.
Rolex 16570 is the greatest Rolex and probably the greatest watch ever made. A relic of a lost era for Rolex, 5 digit reference, 40mm, red GMT hand, black or white dial. Ultimate GADA
The old saying is: People buy a Rolex to impress others. People buy a Grand Seiko to impress themselves.
Never heard this before…. I have both brands bc I’m impressed with each of them.
Rolex watches are nice but I have been looking at lux military watches. Can you do a video on military watches?
I have a Bell & Ross BR 05 Chronograph that has served me well over the past year. I'm not sure what price point you're looking for but it's an aviation style in the 5-8k region. Very different looking watch that won't be mistaken for anything else. The Breitling Navitimer B01 is another watch that I just purchased recently and it's definitely an aviation watch, may be one of the best looking watch I own. Good luck and I hope this helps.
I bought a Pepsi Tudor GMT. It is a tool watch but I love it! Rolex owners give me alot of respect.
Where in west Texas?
I bought a $200 dollars Rolex (Quartz version) and I'm very happy with it. A random guy on the street sold it to me.
Yeah, I'm absolutely amazed when it's covered in verdigris after thirty days!!
I ran into your mom also
Solid recomendation the Explorer 1. From the looks of it it's also now starting to be attainable, still a reasonable wait time but not years. I have the IWC IW324010 and it shares a very similar design language, it has become my all purpose watch.
I have two watches: a Seiko 5 for work, and a Movado for any other time. My first knowledge of Rolex came from Jerry Ahern's Survivalist series of books, the main character wore a Submariner. Now they are just a time keeper for Formula 1 races as they are way out of my price range and really not worth the cost.
I got a seiko 5 myself and i wear it more than my rolex.
I'm so sorry for you.
@@thetruthhurts7500 oh, poor rolex fanboy all over the place. Rolex may be a good example of excellent marketing (and you are the living proof), but it is technically inferior or on par with many other swiss brands like Omega, Breitling, or even lower tier ones. And... the owners of Patek Philippe and Vacheron Constantin will just show you the same thing Bentley did in "Audi vs BMW vs Subaru advertisement war". Rolex is a Coca-Cola of watch industry, but it does not mean that Hennessy Paradis Imperial does not exist. It just means You know nothing except Coke.
One day you'll be able to get a Rolex...I believe that deep in my bones, so hang in there..(now i feel sorry for destroying you with my comment..) @@MrSysadmin1975
@@MrSysadmin1975 Typical rolex hater, just a cringy gatekeeper.
"I'm the real watch guy" pathetic
I have three.... the first one I got was a GMT Master II in steel. Later on I got a Daytona and finally a Datejust - all in steel because, for me it was about craftsmanship and not bling... I find the gold and diamonds to be ridiculous...just my hare-brained opinion, of course. I have a bunch of other watches as well; including Breitling which is a much friendlier price point. Picked up an Omega Seamaster Automatic used for a nice price and a mid 1960's Hamilton. I enjoy watches - I reckon you should buy what you like but I definitely agree that this whole "wait list" garbage would make me tell any retailer to get stuffed!
I'm not some kind of watch snob, y'all... I also wear a few different Casio G Shocks. The watch simply has to fit the whole ensemble, after all.
Craftsmanship and rolex in the same sentence? If you're looking for craftsmanship, especially in a steel watch, you'd go for a royal oak, have you seen what goes on in the making of one? Those are truly pieces of art. Rolex on the other hand are simple to make, why do you think there's replicas that are indistinguishable from the real watches selling for only 300 to 500 dollars, or 500 to 700 from insured dealers that most online communities talk about, or 1000 if you're looking at a video comparison here on youtube and the dude making it paid 3 times the price the rep is and getting basically ripped. APs on the other hand with reps? Usually the bracelets need a little rebrushing to look like gen, ap doesn't spend 10 hours per bracelet for nothing, dials on the other hand? Never gonna be exactly the same.
Sold off all my modern Rolex...Daytona, Sub, Batman... now only sport a 5513 and 1675. My collecting now focuses on what I like, not what the masses are buying. Rolex are average at best, with modest finishing and below average designs.
"As a kid who grew up in a trailer park,..." I love that you mentioned that. I sit in many meetings where I'm the only guy in the room not wearing a Rolex and am not going to lie, I've been tempted. I too grew up in a camper and then a trailer. Decades later I now look back at that kid and find that I'm still happy with a Casio F-91W. A watch doesn't define a man.
These items should never be viewed as investments. They are consumables. Pure utility.
Salute straight from Sierra Leone in Africa 🇸🇱
Normally I like your videos about fashion but this is wrong on so many levels in my opinion. Rolex is not expensive at all, it's right there where it should be and this is coming from an average Joe. There are watches with better complications and more uniqueness but the prices of those are way higher and most of them don't hold their prices. Also maintenance is what it is... you have to maintenance every other high and watch with similar costs so what up? Furthermore, you have to take it to service every 10 years or so. That's way more generous than any car would ask for. I can understand you didn't like the experience of being on a list but you have to understand more people wan't to buy it and business is business. I can go on.... and this is just an opinion nothing more, I still think your videos are quite educational and entertaining.
Yellow gold Daytona is my next Rolex.
I think you meant to say pinnacle (highest peak or best) instead of pentacle (a "magical" symbol.)
If I take the plunge on a Rolex, it would be an Air King, as I’m a pilot. The Sky-Dweller would be nice, but that is a very expensive Rolex. For non Rolex, it would be the Breitling Navitimer.
I’m a helo bubba myself, and I feel you on the Navitimer, but I’m leaning towards a blue-dial Aerospace.
I love my B01 Navi! Highly recommend 👌
So my question is what is a guy do if he inherits a 37-year-old datejust Rolex from his father who passed away? This was my father’s way of showing his success back in 1986 when he purchased the watch I still have the original receipt that was kept by my stepmother and the purchase was done in the Cayman Islands on a cruise. That’s how far back this goes.
Wear it and treasure it. Around that time my father bought a Rolex for my brother, and then Omega for me. I mean, I guess he bought them for himself… With the intention of giving them to us. And some years ago he did. I know my father passed away this year. And I’m wearing the Omega and it’s a beautiful connection.
If you wear a Rolex out in Public in the UK or Europe danger of being violently robbed
advise is to wear a cheaper watch if out and about
I dont collect watches but i love motorcycles. I know we all have our passions we pour all our money and time into leaving everything else out on the cheap. LOL You know what that item, hobby or passion is for you. When i see ppl liking watches i see that they like the mechanical machine they are getting. Maybe that's because that's what i see when i buy a Panigale V4 SP2
30ᵗʰ Anniversario 916 and some could say the same for Ducati but id argue the brand still innovates and still to this day sits at the top of the hill. I just have an apple watch. LOL I get to put a Ducati face on it. Its not my bag.
I get what you say tho. A brand has to continue to earn my praise and respect. I do not give it out continuously w/ out merrit. Every year i make a new judgement about the brand and its products they release. I know that changes in time for every brand in every industry. Fluxuation!
9:11 LOL what you say speaks to me on the moto as well. You think other ppl will be gravitated towards this item you possess but its only those in your sphere of interest who will show you the interest you desire. Im not naive to this but many ppl are. And yes i get such a pump from jumping on a sexy bike.
What do you think about vintage watches?
When someone pressure sells me just say "keep it"
Being in sales, this should already be known. Rolex is a Veblen Goods. Thorstein Veblen was a non popular economist 100 years ago. Normally products/goods sale better at lower pricing. Veblen Goods sell better at higher/increasing pricing. The iPhone is also a Veblen Goods.
Rolex does not support vintage. Patek does support vintage, they will actually make the part for you like Ferrari, the car. A Rolex is a production watch made by technicians on a production line, not the romanticized image of a watchmaker working on a watch people think. After a number of decades like three or more, parts availability becomes questionable. There are no longer a ton of independent watchmakers globally stocking parts. Service is largely inhouse with a spattering of watchmakers with Rolex parts accounts. Aftermarket parts can greatly diminish the value of a luxury watch.
Rolex at retail are actually decent value compared to their competition, they are very durable high quality and precise watches and their bracelets are by far the best of any watch. You can’t buy an equivalent quality watch for the same money especially one which holds their value or indeed appreciates.
I love my Rolex DateJust 36 two-tone in everrose gold with the chocolate dial and jubilee bracelet, but it's I don't really feel comfortable wearing it every day. Ended up buying a Tudor BlackBay 54 as a daily wear. Covered for every occasion.
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Ok guy. You probably listen to funk music, too 😂
Funniest thing is that Rolex started out as the G-shock of it's time
Roger smith, phillipe dufour, two greatest watchmakers of today wore rolex, owner of mb&f watches for only watch choses rolex.
Rolex is excelent, very good, and beautiful, one can lie to himselfe, but truth is a rolex is a rolex for a reason.
I have the Submariner 124060 and the Speedmaster 3861 Sapphire. Save to say I covered my "luxury pillars".
I got the Sub because I always liked it (since I was a kid) and was the watch that got me into watches, I got the Speedy because it's classy and both come from the Cold War era which is my favorite history event. I have things I geek out about both of them and I know people may find my Sub boring or something like that but I absolutely love wearing it.
Maintenance cost in EU where I live - Rolex is easy to maintain, it is not costly and it is in my "neighborhood". Same goes for the Speedy. I don't feel elite or special, I feel... Like me.
But I still hate moccasins and loafers.
I've never been a Rolex fan for most the reasons you discuss in the video. My favorite watch is my Omega Seamaster Professional 300. It suits me beautifully in every way.
I have bought and sold 3 Rolex in the past few years. I enjoyed them in the moment, but buying them at retail, the profit in selling them was just too large to ignore. Sold the last one a month ago at a premium, though smaller than the first two. I think 2024 will bring a change to the watch market. I will be able to buy that last one back, brand new, for less than the sale price. Until then I have a couple of dozen other very cool pieces (yes, I'm a watch guy).
Value for money, everything else in my collection trumps Rolex. As an example, I have 3 watches from a newer, but very respectable Swiss brand. All in-house movements, limited editions, original and outstanding designs that rival 6-figure high horology pieces, and my cost on ALL three of them is about the cost of a Sub, at retail. Yes, I bought them well, far below RRP, but it is an example of what can be found if you're knowledgeable and open-minded.
NOW, having said all that, if I go out somewhere and I wish to reflect my level of wealth and success, those watches are not likely to do it. Apart from looking cool, and most people would surmise that at least they weren't picked up at Wal*Mart, they just don't have the brand cache. Most of the time I don't care. However, nothing beats a Rolex for establishing in the minds of most that minimum level of success you've attained.
Define value, you bought, wore and sold Rolex watches and made money doing it. Next to that even £15 on a Casio is bad value as it's at least a fiver down the drain.
The skydweller is a bargain in the Rolex lineup -with its classic looks but very innovativ saros calendar -that would cost over 20k at similar brands…
Agree. Not to say Rolex watches are bad, but production of 1 million watches a year I would not call that exclusive or even status symbol.
The rolex Explorer is what ill probably get myself. At first i was pretty against rolex and i wanted a tudor or omega instead. Got the omega, no tudor. But rolex means something and you should have one in your collected. Yes theyre overpriced based on demands.
my favorite brand of watches is Citizen, they are just amazing.
Good calls. I'm not a huge Rolex fan but would indeed like to add an Explorer to my collection. Its the perfect all round classic watch!
Not a huge Rolex fan huh? lol What a tool
Totally agree about price. I got my Date Just in '98 £1,800 before discount (yes, you could get discount back then). If you ajust for inflation, thats about £3,300 in todays money, but the equivalent watch now costs double that.
I disagree with you about the Explorer. It looks like the. Oyster Perpetual with a black dial, it has the same two main size options os the OP, but costs £1,000 more. What are you getting for your money? A couple of numbers and some luminescence of the dial, and and a different clasp.
If I were in the market for one and they were the same price, I may lean towards the explorer but for nearly 20% more, probably not.
Oyster perpetual were seen as "scraps" before the hype. You buying them as favor to your AD so they can get reach their sales target and get allocation for better models where you will hope the AD will sell it to you. Just like the Moonwatch, the explorer had heritage where it was the watch used to climb mount everest. Marketing yes, but with your argument you can get a homage and call it a day
New to the channel. Love your content
The best Rolex is inherited. There are some microbrands such as Direnzo that are more aesthetically pleasing
At about 8:25. I see that Seiko Sarb. I have the creame dial on as I watch.
Bought my Sub in 1986 for $1300; all it should cost. I just liked the look then and now. Will never sell it. For the look and telling the time now, buy a Chinese or Turkish replica. Rolex messed themselves up.
that's almost 8k now if you invested in stocks - enough to buy a nice rolex. doesn't seem too crazy to me.
Oh, I know exactly why I shouldn’t buy a Rolex: Because living in a cardboard box doesn’t sound like a lot of fun.
Bought my rolex oyster perpetual chronometerin 1963 for 128 dollars . Wear 24 hours a day . Put it in shop to cln in 76 and they lost it . Bought me a new one. I astill wear it . Only watch that i trust to be waterproof. 63 years for 128 dollars plus 4 services . Good deal at 86 years should last rest of my life .
The only watch I would consider other then a Rolex is a Rolex copy. They are watches, real watches. Timeless. Or get a really cheap watch if brand doesn't matter, which would be the best advice.
Collectors prefer truly collectible watches, then proceeds to show other hype-monster watches like Richard Mille & Jacob & Co.
Have a Daytona & submariner- love them. Only buy these watches when the market is awful. I would never buy from a Rolex dealer. Both of my watches were purchased at a huge discount to retail when dealers couldn’t sell anything. My advice is to wait until prices are tanking, which they do every 5-7 years.
I agree with your views on Rolex. I'm pretty knowledgeable about the watch industry. But Rolex is a safe buy. Because you'll rarely lose money. They are boring watches. But that Yacht master is fire. Because it's not a sub, explorer or GMT.
I waited 20 years before purchasing my Submariner. I plan on wearing it until I die and giving it to my son. Watches don't change who you are, buy what you enjoy. To each his own. Cheers!
Absolutely true. I bought my last Rolex in 2018. I bought them alll at or below retail. I look back and realize how over priced they were. I’ll never buy one again.
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