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TF2: Spy Psychology - How To Play Spy
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- #TF2 #teamfortress2 #spy
Spy is a hard class, but hey, you have to start somewhere right? And I guess you may be starting here...
Thanks to @Jauntyweb for helping with the thumbnail, and thanks to @Megaboomlord for voicing the F2P spy.
0:00 Intro
2:13 Knife
3:10 Invis Watch
4:05 Disguise Kit
5:24 GUN
6:22 Sapper
7:52 Outro
Music used:
Night Duel - Mario Party 6 Soundtrack
Ratchet & Clank PS4 Soundtrack - 10. Gadgebots
021 - The Gatekeepers - (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon - Explorers of Sky)
Fawful is There - Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
Menu Theme - New Super Mario Bros. U
Slender_ The Eight Pages -- Music -- Page 3 - 4 theme
Heaven Pierce Her - Panic Betrayer [ULTRAKILL]
Tune Fortress - 7. A Cunning Plan
Tune Fortress - 4. Heavys Eight
TheFatRat - Xenogenesis
DOOM Eternal Soundtrack_ Cultist Base (Ambient)
Mario and Chill - Dire Dire Docks
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If you want a unique peaceful approach to spy, you can literally 'spy on em' by relaying info about what the enemy team is doing, it may give an advanced notice of a well prepared push being set up, possibly helping weak classes prepare to escape
Even better, you can make them push and sap the sentry.
@@giahuynguyenkim6389 While pushing you can also take out one or two important people like a sniper, an engineer, a heavy or a demoman who has set up a sticky trap, or even a medic! Wait are we starting to describe playing spy normally, but with one extra addition?
@@mishagaming1075 It's call communication, which is almost impossible with F2Ps being muted.
@@giahuynguyenkim6389 That addition IS communication. Although i agree.
What I do is use a motion cloak and I sit at thier base and just camp there
My favorite "Spy has a gun" moment has to be a time when I was playing as Medic and charging towards a de-cloaked Spy who I had cornered in a building with my Ubersaw out. The Spy proceeded to moonwalk into the corner and shot me until I was dead before giving me a freeze-frame taught, laughing.
My lesson was that Medic has a crossbow, but my weakness is that whenever I see Spy, I see free uber-charge.
The Ubersaw and its consequences have been a blah blah blah...
„But HEY! That’s a free 25%!“
MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!
Thing is the spy can use that big iron to pick people off if the toothpick doesn’t work
Trick. Stab. Whenever i see a ubersaw charging medic i see free kunai health.
"Take each death as a learning experience, to learn how to die less"
*looks at the soldier/pyro that just dropped into the middle of the enemy team and got me caught in the cross fire*
*Looks at the 10 others that have also done so, in this one match*
Lesson: Spy is squishy. Don't be clumped up with the rest of your team.
@@KaneYork I was halfway across the map from that actual fight
@@techwizsmith7963 lesson: watch what your team is doing and communicate with them.
also knowing the map is the key to this class. Sometime you feel as if you have the least luck in the world, but you're just in the wrong spots at the wrong time. when that happens to me, it's usually 'cause I don't know the map I'm playing in.
@@vyor8837 communicate?… in pubs?…
"are you ready?"
*voice communication is not allowed in this account*
So I play with my husband, and the advice he gave me for the disguise was to not overthink it and remember to put your back to the enemy because turning your back on "your own" teammates goes unnoticed because you're supposed to trust them. He said what tends gives spies away to good players is that they won't turn their back on them, which is suspicious. I probably didn't explain that very well, but it seemed worth mentioning.
*Thats cool, nice*
I really like how the editing makes everything feel more alive, keep up the good work
just had my first ever "good" game as spy (4th on the leaderboard, full game and 19 backstabs out of 30 kills) and hopped onto youtube to learn some tips because I want to get good with every class and - this video is AMAZING! I feel like I'm actually learning things without being thrown into an ocean of information, this series is really promising!
4th? excellent!!!
Honestly spy reminds me the really good stealth games that were audio based. Thief 1, thief 2 and Filcher. youll need taffer patcher for thief 1 i believe but theyre some of my favorite video games and def helped me improve as spy.
Surprisingly underrated for how well made the video is. Nice job, man
"Disguises can't fool good players"
Blu medic starts healing the RED ubered BLU pyro
Aside from learning on how to playing a spy, I just realized I keep coming back to Spy Psychology just to rewatch the animations and editing Jonto has created. It gives off the visual entertainment that improved my learning experience and make me laugh occasionally as I rewatch them… for this video: it’s the Disguise Kit part when the noob Spy says that “disguises don’t fool good players” and then Jonto’s spy gives off a “Oh really?” smile and that hand gesture… That expression Jonto gave himself made me laugh. (Who else is here for the animation?)
I’ve said it once before, but you’ve quickly become my favorite Spy-Tuber. I’ve been watching some of your videos nonstop cause they just never get boring! I love this type of edutainment content.
Really enjoyed this! Editing was fun and attention keeping, expectations were realistic, and I genuinely enjoyed this as a spy noob haha. Hope to see more from you like this! 🖤
"Sure, you'll die.. a LOT"
Thanks. I really needed that.
here’s a quick tip: engineers usually upgrade their tele exit while standing on it so if you see a teleported being upgraded at the entrance with no engi there you can try to go for a telefrag
Thanks
..most don't. most engineers don't.
2:58 sound smith trolldier tutorial reference lol nice
god the editing is so flawless. Mind me asking how long it took you to make this whole video?
Roughly 30 hours
@@Jontohil2 Thats nice, i always get worried i take too long to make videos
You missed a chance to call this series Spychology
0:05 amazing intro
Yes I agree
This is very well done! Thank you for the concise breakdown, Jonto, I feel like I understand Spy much better now...
Concise, informative and amazingly edited to boot. I wish I had this video when I first started playing spy. Deserves more views, much love
damn this is really well put together, excited for the rest of the series so there's my sub
UGH I f__king love TF2 CZcamsrs there are endless gems like this channel
Something I'd like to add! To best fool people with your disguise, play as the other classes. Playing as the other classes for awhile, ya learn their movement styles, i.e Demo will usually be strafing back an forth near the back/middle of a group during combat if they're using their GL and Soldiers tend to jump around....ALOT....it gives them a good angle on their rockets when firing at someones feet. An pay attention to who gets spy checked often, like a Pyro with their flamethrower out is almost 100% to get spy checked an that precent goes WAY down if you have your disguise equip a secondary or melee wep. Stuff like that.
Also, helps to have a round missing from your revolver if your trying to infiltrate. When you reload your revolver, the disguise also reloads. an best part? You can change your disguises weapon by pulling out the slotted wep/item an hitting a button (I have mine set to C key, but you can change it to anything).
Hope this helps! (PS. I am NOT a spy main, but this is stuff I picked up from playing for years)
I LOVE that you use bowser's inside story ost tracks, It's such a subtle yet cultured touch to your videos, bravo!
loved that video after a hard game of dying watched this video and now i feel happier and more motivated thats the thing u need to i takes a lot of time ty man much
3:04 Ooooof, I recognize that sniper, Sarb, he's been ousted several times for having Walls.
WAIT I REMEMBER BEING SUSPICIOUS OF HIM IN THAT GAME!
Huh no wonder...
@@Jontohil2 Yep, and he's pretty obvious with it when you know about it. I went C&D attacking on Payload and he chased me from first point to last while I was invis the whole time
missed opportunity to call this series spychology
also 4:29 PANIC BETRAYER LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
He doesn’t like that name because he thinks people would get confused.
Also ultrakill soundtrack is epik
1:59 this is my favorite part lol
also great video keep them constant guarantee at least 10k in the next 1-2 1/2 months
Thing is for the first few days this video struggled to get even 100 views, then over the course of a few hours the algorithm blessed it and it shot up to 800
@@Jontohil2 @Jontohil2 for someone with your level of editing youtube should be pushing this video out further to even more people. I feel like this video deserves to get at least 90k-300k views
This should be called Spychology
That intro probably gave lethal company players PTSD
6:40
“ Your guts will be.. splattered.. your pancreas will be on the ground.. “
BanBan: “ someone say pancreas? hand ‘em over pal “
I’m a f2p spy who started playing July 6th, about 6 days ago. These series help a lot. Thanks!
would like to point out that despite having a weapon that is only effective against engineers (sappers), they do not counter engineers in my opinion, you just have on since you can´t backstab the sentry
Agreed, engineers still have a lot of methods of dealing with spies. Spies are more of a rival to engineers, not a counter.
I just got TF2, and I'm rewatching these to help a little when I need to play spy. Watching them before getting the game has already taught me to use the gun more, and I've gotten a kill or two with it already. (I've only had the game for a day or two.) This series is really helpful, thank you!
Thank you so much, I was about to uninstall because I was sick of dying as spy, but you gave me the confidence to play spy thanks for the advice.
Thanks for this video! I've been playing TF2 for a couple of months now and I'm interested in moving out of my character comfort zone. Even though this stuff I technically _knew_ from the tutorial, the way you explained it made it feel much less overwhelming.
The beginning reminds me of tonight, there was a player saying "sorry imma be bad but i wanna play sniper" on the enemy team... "yeah do that, you gotta learn somehow!"
The editing is top tier, I hate how only like 100k people are seeing this. It’s worthy of much more
today i did my first cornerstab
3:41 Heavy is not someone I want suspicious of me;
ESPECIALLY a Heavy that knows that calling out that there is a Spy is a good way to let that very same Spy know that others are aware of Their existence;
Seeing that people are still helping other people to get good at the game after so many years warms my heart and this format is also very nostalgic keep it going bro
This is one of the best spy tutorials i've ever seen, cant wait for more.
"try to figure out why you've died"
me with slow wifi lagging everytime i managed to get behind someone and delays the backstab
I got a desperado loadout and a real pretty revolver and it’s insane how easy to kill pyros it is to just walk backwards and dump rounds into them
Very good video, it deserves more views. Good job.
curiosity: i did not know that spy could see enemy's health before watching this spy teatching series, it is good to show this in the tutorials as early as possible as it is a quite usefull mechanic when used correctly
"fastly change to your sapper so the sentry would not see you"
Your enternal reward (knife): Am I a joke to you
You are better than the other tutorial videos you go into detail with every aspect of the class and that makes you my best person to go and get advice from on spy
OMG! you used Fawful is There from Bowsers inside Story to explain Spy's arsenal. It really fits Spy actually
Awesome. I'd also like to mention, I feel like stabbing people and taking down buildings is secondary to Spy's ability to cause chaos and distract the enemy. If I had to describe the process of playing him, it's popping in and out of existance for any opprotunity. As for disguises, the way I'd describe using them is like having a sort of "mental protection." This isn't protection like resistence and overheal, it's more like just one less reason for the enemy to istantly shoot you. If you obviously run directly at them or they're already spy checking, that protection is non-existent beyond sentries. Fear no though, you don't always have to fool every enemy you come across. Sometimes you just need to fool one of them.
By the way, love those SFM bits you included.
Your videos are really good!
I don't even play TF2, but I still like the characters, and your videos are so well made that I can't stop watching them.
This video is really really helpful then those trickstab videos, i must say even its a 1 year old video its still good and great work 👍
"Take each death as a learning experience"
Ha, jokes on you, it's pretty much how I play spy.
5:33
*YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUT ME OFFFFF-*
You know that sh✨t gets serious when i, demoman main, change to spy. Especially after these tutorials.
No, seriously, your spy guides are awesome.
the first time he said the classic line 5:24
I started playing tf2 about 2 days ago and you CANT understand how much this helped me.
i heard ultrakill music and you gained my respect and almost made me fail NNN at the same time
4:34 ...did a pyro just materialize out of thin air? did he die with his cloak on?
anyways goodshit and a good tutorial for spy tf2. underrated tftuber
Thanks a lot for this video! I've always been a scout main and was never able to play spy, but with these videos I've been able to do decent as spy and got 8 backstabs on my first game!
One thing about backstabs is that you can accidentally get trickstabs. I’ve noticed that it’s more likely to happen with the Spycicle for some reason.
Is ThAt A sOuNd SmItH ReFeRaNcE
Thx man this fr helped 😭
this is very close to Sound Smith's ho to market garden but it is really nice to see this concept get adapted so well
I find it so funny that, when first trying out Spy, I just thought my clicks weren’t registering when I tried to stab while invisible.
Oh, what a fool I was.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TUTORIAL BRO THIS MADE ME A BETTER SPY
from my experience as spy ....
Spy work when your team is doing so much pressure to the enemy team like pushing, making noise forcing choke points, they are too busy looking in front of them than behind them that they are sitting ducks....
On the other hand.....
Spy sucks when you are doing the pressure to the enemy team(mean your team cant push and stuck) because they will hunt you and spy check everything.... One time i saw a engineer literally building a tp then do a 180 to a corner then killed a spy (I am the spy... I using a cloak and dagger
As a spy rely on your team as the distraction cloaking, disguising is not enough and they will caught on,"SPY IS TEAM RELIAT CLASS, HE'S A SUPPORT SO DONT EXPECT TOO MUCH"
So yeah just shared my thoughts 😅
GREAT VIDEO ❤
lol nice, THX!!!
I first downloaded TF2 like 2 years ago? but didn't quite open it cuz im havin a heck of hard time and too lazy to get better and when i opened it 1 week ago i kinda got the gist of it and i mained demo and pyro and when i had the idea of trying spy when i went to the pipe at the 2Fort map i came across 3 pyro and 1 medic and i somehow killed 3 of em and the medic but died when i came out due to the sniper. Kinda fun and thx for teaching me basic controls of SPY and finally, new stuff to ease my boredome!
7:28 If you could set this dummy mid fight it would be GENIUS cause they either shoot you and get exposed to be shot or hesitate and shoot them, bonus point if the thing explode if shot.
(Those fake bodies and tools could have unintuitive roles in other stories like healing, playing music, storing stuff, anything you think)
Haven't seen anyone say it yet, but I'm loving the music choice in this video
Ultrakill and PMD have banger soundtracks, good shit homie
I started tf2 5 days ago and i only take spy because it looks kinda cool to have someone intelligent and mysterious but dude its toooo hard
For dealing with engie nests, what if the engineer in question religiously follows Uncle Dane’s specific tutorial that you probably already watched at this point?
SPAHS
Just getting into TF2 and The Spy is the one I am Most interested in Playing.
thanks for the tips.
4:22 F2Ps can't talk
Its a community server probably
i'm here to say that today i made my first trickstab (i made a corner stab) and now i want to learn more about spy.
1:26 Yes the best I can.
Missed opportunity to name it Spychology
True tutorial:
1. Play as spy
2. Get one kill
3. Get ignited by some random pyro because you cloaked too late
4. 5 enemies are shooting at you
5. Die
6. Respawn
7. Get spawncamped by a random sniper on a roof
8. Die
9. Uninstall tf2
That helpful but i am stuck at step 2
Skill issue stonk
2:50 that reminds me of the soundsmith video on how to trolldier when a scout goes out and says "uhhh well acthcually you can-" "no no no no no dont listen to him"
Sometimes it’s depending on your RNG. For example, your cloak is almost run out and the nearest ammo box is in the room with tight ways. If you aren’t lucky you could get bumped into people and you will die. To avoid this just……. go back to your local resupply cabinet or just use the cloak and dagger to negate this .Try hide in the plain sight (using CaD) and try not the make any sound (except when both team are fighting near you) and don’t get into crossfire.
Basically avoid the tight way
Like jonto say in the video that you can get frustrate.
people randomly hit the spot your hiding and then your mind are going like “the entire team will focus on spy first even though there 3 heavies in front of them”
That is just suck
the pyrovison goggles guy had the big earner
damn I love how you edit your videos, you win a new suscriber sir
spy the class of mental breakdowns you ether get one or give one
6:08. Lazypurple reference. Isn't it.
Extras how it feels to play sniper
Yes
As someone who absolutely sucks at spy, this helps a lot. And yes I know I main demo, but do I care right now? No, I just want to get good at spy.
My favorite disguise is to become a demo bot on community servers and stupidly bump into walls and such while walking backwards, it works at least once a game
Another tip: UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, DO NOT TAKE THE INTELLIGENCE. This is due to the fact that you are practically deprived of most of your useful abilities when you have the intel, making you essentially a sitting duck. The only circumstance where you can is when you have either a spy or two watching your back or when it is intended to be a distraction (which normally fails unless you are that good of a spy player)
bro ya contents good af, you about to blowup, I hope you don't act like you don't know nobody
I once uber'd an enemy spy and he just stood there looking at me
1:08 Got off TF2 just to hear this. I'm fr just trying to get better and doing my best, and these two guys would not shut up in the chat because I'm new at playing spy but I want to get better, and I told them to stop but they wouldn't. Ended up getting off and now I'm here, not sure if I'll play spy again on there again. Probably one of my worst experiences on uncletopia :(
John, you are the only, and I mean ONLY spy main I like.
I’ll be real getting ubered by the enemy medic is the best feeling as spy imo
I decided to play spy for the first time today, I sucked but I got lucky and killed two people back to back by accident when I panicked. That one moment brought me here
Alternate option go to a x10 server with kuni and dead ringer (diamond back optional) REALLY give them a mental breakdown with 2k hp spy
2:01 I love how he is just explicitly saying that SPY HAS A GUN.
Me: flanks whole team
Single heavy: SpY
I am slowly learning Spychology for when I start playing TF2
dude this is underrated as hell, you should get more views
Tfw the medic ubers you as a spy
I have over 200 hours of tf2 and I almost know how to play all the classes...except for spy. I usually find spy annoying to play as and play against. This video actually helped me get the overall basics and I hope these videos will help me