TF2: Spy Psychology - How to Disguise
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2024
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People say disguises don't fool good players... welp, guess I gotta prove otherwise...
Thanks to @Megaboomlord for helping some of the filming and @babbitgoezboom for doing the bit with the screen.
0:00 Intro
1:13 Disguise Mechanics
4:03 How to Detect a Spy
6:04 Acting
10:45 The Different Disguises
15:18 Outro
Music used:
Half-Life Alyx OST - Anti-Citizen
Beneath Pi'illo Castle - Mario & Luigi Dream Team
Funky Town low quality
Luigi's Mansion 2 Dark Moon - Gloomy Manor [Remix]
World 8 Map - New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Pokémon_ White 2 - White Treehollow
Luigi's Mansion 3 Music - ScareScraper Floor (Capture The Ghosts) Ver. 2
Harry Potter hyper distorted version
Luigi's Mansion 3 Music - ScareScraper Boss Boolossus (Phase 1)
Super Mario 3D World - World Bowser [Remix]
Comedic Curtains - Mario & Luigi_ Dream Team Music
Chris Christodoulou - Tropic of Cancer
Tostarena Ruins - Super Mario Odyssey
Chris Christodoulou - A Placid Island of Ignorance
Dreaming of Riches - Mario Party 7
Chris Christodoulou - Dew Point
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Playing With Danger
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Faster Than a Speeding Bullet
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Rocket Jump Waltz
Nightmare Lullaby - Mario & Luigi Dream Team
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Drunken Pipe Bomb
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Intruder Alert
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - More Gun (Version 1)
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - A Little Heart to Heart
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - The Calm
Team Fortress 2 Soundtrack - Petite Chou-Fleur
Half-Life Alyx OST - Ending Triumph
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It's insane to think that for an old game like TF2, fundamental guides like this are almost always recent uploads
With a game as old yet dynamic as tf2, people are always both honing their craft, and discovering new ways entirely
I'll always love how many helpful and informative guides are out there for TF2 and how many are still being made to this day. From hours upon hours of circle strafing tutorials, to optimized settings, to weapon guides, and many different playstyles. Now there's only one guide we're missing: how to avoid Sniper in casual games. Please. I just want to play the game.
@@nts0n do you know why there aren't any guides on how to avoid snipers? Because there are no ways to avoid sniper. #ValveNerfSniper
We learned all of this in like 2010 dude it's not anything new. CZcams just doesn't show older videos vs new videos.
thats good for me, redownloaded the game today and got chased around by a pyro while cloaked until i died and had an existential crisis
I found a niche use of a heavy disguise while playing yesterday. If you see a wounded enemy try to approach them while switching disguised weapon to your secondary. Since 99 percent of heavies carry some sort of a food item it will look like you want to throw it and heal them. A pretty good chance that they will also stand still, giving you and opportunity to easily finish them off with a revolver. I successfully did it twice and honestly feels awesome to bamboozle someone this way
You can pull a similar trick sometimes with medic by pulling out the crossbow so they stand still for you to shoot a healing bolt at them, only for you to instead shoot a lead bolt at them. It feels poetic, watching them stand nice and still for their own execution.
Mother of God, you are a terrible person
@@greeneggsnspam2111 never thought spy could be so sadistic… and a hot French weeb
@@clownontherun3449 I hate both Anime and Fr*nce, actually.
@@greeneggsnspam2111why did you censor”France”?
For those who don’t know: medics with the right settings get an autocall ping if you disguise while not at full HP. And when they medibeam you they’ll see your actual HP. As a medic main who sometimes plays spy, it’s painful how much tech medics have against spies.
what settings
@@alicyuhh auto call to around 95%+
@@VampDemigod Some medics also have a keybind that causes the autocall ping to appear on any teammate regardless of their health, be mindful of those too
It's balanced by the fact that I have a "Heal first, spy check later" playstyle that means I help enemy spies just as much as I hurt them.
@@KorotasGeckoGamingCorner True, I forgot about the lower/raise keybind. Medic being able to track teammates through walls on demand really is an underrated ability XD
11:03
One thing I don't think gets enough credit is the transitions to the other classes. It's really impactful and the sudden music change makes it feel like this is "their" video now. It's great.
Agreed
holy shit didnt notice that lmao
Yes!
That video is a spy!
This reminds me of the time I disguised as pyro, and somehow I forgot I was playing spy. So I genuinely convinced myself I was a BLU pyro, so I went to attack my team. Which caused my disguise to fall and I died instantly
LOL
My man was doing triple acting 😭
Expert spy strat: get 8 hours of sleep a day
@@laughingseagull000 (and dont do narcotics/drugs)
i once was playing on goldrush and on of my team was hiding on the cart and pushing but i tried to backstab him
I am a terrible spy, but I loved the concept of disguising so much growing up that I just instinctively learned to act like my disguise. I usually did a pretty terrible job but the first thing I realized was, looking at my team is the most unsuspecting thing you can do as a spy.
Hello there! How is it goin'? I'm pretty much new at Spy, 2 hours of game with him. Can you give me a little tip?
@@TheStreakBreaker dont let the enemy see you with your team because they will know in a instant you are a spy
@@FeltyTurtleunless you are disguised as their spy and "pretend" found out to get them to think they need to push in since the entire team is distracted by one spy, but of course, they are n o t
@@TheStreakBreakerwhen disguised as sniper, jitter left and right like most snipers do to avoid getting headshot
@@TheStreakBreakeronly use the stock invis watch while learning the class, cloak and dagger and dead ringer teach bad habits if they’re your only watches you’ve used
For everyone watching, here's another tip that'll hopefully help: Whatever you do, don't always choose the SAME class to disguise as. Scout might be good for the hitbox displacement and slightly faster move speed, for example, but the enemy team will eventually try to always spycheck a scout if all they see are enemy spies disguised as one. Variety is the spice of life, and it might just save yours if you're lucky!
That said due to the spy meta being scout disguises you should reserve using scout as your I need a disguise to get a quick pick disguise.
You dont need to use strictly scout for the fastest movespeed, spy also shares his movespeed with medic and obviously spy, so thats 3 options for the fastest possible speed!
Spy doesnt get faster movespeed if disguised as Scout. Smart players can tell if a scout is a spy by movement speed alone, you gotta mask it with jumping.
As a new player, i thank you
I always go disguise myself as an engineer because if i go to a building, it's less suspicious
Thanks for this!
@@PixeIatedYou can also disguise as someone else looking for ammo or health (hit the MEDIC button in the latter case, you'll probably get a free med pick) to get to the buildings.
...or just cloak idk
I always like disguises because making them work is a test of how well you know all 8 other classes. Whenever you disguise as someone, unless you don't care for subtlety, you have to think back to when you played the class, realize what and where is natural, and act while keeping tabs on everything. It's a great test of your skill at every class, because if you play the class bad, the enemies wil likely see the heavy they KNOW is more skilled than that standing at a really bad spot. But if you do know the class? You can act very smoothly sometimes
I actually think acting exactly how you personally would as that class is the wrong way of going about it. Remember, you're not just disguising yourself as another class, you're disguising yourself as *another player* presently in the game - unless you chose to disguise as a class not being currently used in the match anyway. Like, if you disguise yourself as a Sniper player that's been moving around the whole game to avoid getting trapped to a specific location and make themselves unpredictable to your team but when you disguise as them you sit patiently and act like you're waiting for your targets to come to you, you're going to at the very least get people suspicious.
All 9 actually - don't neglect disguising as a spy. Especially effective on maps where there's less of a clear line between attack and defense areas, or when coming out of spawn and not in line of sight of *your* team.
Being someone who plays the adaptive playstyle, it's easy to mimic the movements of a class. This video is awsome, and it really helped me up my spy game, making me alot more of an asset to my team.(i personally am a horrible spy, but I can pull off the acting gig preatty good.)
I once fooled a Soldier for basically his entire life with a Sniper disguise it felt good when i finally stabbed him. he was also a good chap about it and complimented my acting which made me feel pretty good
Im pretty much the same, i suck as at stabbing, but i can act and move good
@@birb4121
There's nothing more satisifying when fooling a fully charged Uber Medic to using his uber on you only to realize you arent attacking the sentry nest and your teammates, meaning that you just effectively lead him into a death trap with pretty much no escape or that you completely wasted his entire time.
Use your eternal reward although it's not very good it will train ya
@@civilsecuritylite12054 I’ve been on the receiving end of that before, and it is quite embarrassing for both me (the medic) and every teammate around me.
I was super taken aback by how amazing this video was! As much as I like the more cloak-reliant, "only decloak when you're gonna get a stab" playstyle, there's nothing quite as rewarding as actually fooling someone, and this provides some really good information to getting that down. It really is the subtle things that make you convincing. Excellent video! Might play some more spy now lol
People are learning the ways...
@PKBeats then upload more on your tf2 channel!!! I loved the fnaf video!!!!!! You advertised it in one of ur smash vids!!!!!!!!!!
Something that ess not mentioned that i just thought of: if you stare a disguised enemy spy in the face, they will emote that they seem scared(their face, not the Fortnite type of emoting). Pyro should therefore be preferred if you plan to disguise for a longer con than normal.
Remember to use other disguises where applicable tho
@@shoelace5977 What? I've been playing since 2008 and this is the first time I've heard of that
@@manjackson2772 FINALLY found something to show!
back in 2014, mr paladin uploaded a spy detection guide (link: czcams.com/video/-UmSvWgJlCk/video.html ), and at 19:08 he talks about staring down a heavy disguise as a way to tell it apart! throughout the video you can also see disguised spies trying to avoid eye contact too!
this is VERY niche, but at least i have proof now, and i am happy
I just had to comment that the TF2 Spy moment that has lived in my brain rent free for years now has been the moment I willingly avoided spychecking an engineer because he had the toolbox equipped like he was hauling gear, and thinking "spies can't use that in disguises so he's not a spy" and immediately getting stabbed by him afterwards. It broke me and of all the moments in TF2 i've ever had, that one moment has stuck with me forever.
Disguises work.
How do you disguise as toolbox carrying engie? That sounds epic
spies can do that???
For the decade I’ve known about this game, I did not know Spy could do that
@@nickmorzinski5558maybe hitting B when you have your slot 4 item out? (disguise kit)
Spy cannot do this. He can mimic primary, secondary & melee weapons only of other classes. What most likely happened is:
You saw a real engy with the toolbox, turned around, an enemy spy coming out of stealth or behind cover stabs engy, then you, and seeing no one else on the killcam you came to the conclusion this engy was the spy, rather than a spy killing your engy teammate & then you in quick succession. It's also possible you saw a real engy with the toolbox, turned around and in the interim a spy out of stealth/cover kills engy with Your Eternal Reward, immediately taking on the engy's appearance. Then you turn back around for a moment towards the now spyengy, who now has any other weapon out he can appear to have. You turn away again, and die, and forget the Your Eternal Reward possibility between your turn arounds because of how quick it happens, so you equate these 2 moments of gazing back at engybro as the same player.
Or you are misremembering. Or it was a rare, weird glitch, potentially on a community server or due to lag or your PC having a moment. I have been playing since '07 Beta with a very sad amount of hours (on spy, engy, everything) and have never once seen this and just googled & tested myself to confirm, what you're saying is not possible to do as spy, intentionally.
I feel like the art of disguising has been overshadowed by the lobotomizing play-style of the trickstabbing kunai spy, but these kinds of videos give me hope for spy mains. I'm always impressed when I'm completely fooled by a good disguise.
I run the kunai simply because being able to tank a quick scope headshot is amazing.
I dont think thats true, the dead ringer and kunai made things easier but that also why some people prefer such items. like pyros power jack helps with positioning, scouts, and spy checking.
Except, you can COMPLETELY nullify the OG-playstyle, by just empying an entire magazine into anything that moves. Actings skills are worthless. What my mans in the video here isn't mentioning, is that disguises can only fool people that ALLOW themselves to be fooled, in other words, you can only fool newbies in pubs.
Not a single thing he said is useful information in an actual competitive lobby, with experienced players, as they do, in fact, spycheck everything that moves, because you riskl nothing, and lose nothing, by doing so, in this game. :P
@@MyouKyuubi because you always see competitive players shooting everything. That isn't a waste of both time and ammo at all.
I always say a good spy doesn't need to fool you for more than about a second until someone dies. Sometimes less depending on good situations.
As a 60 hour spy main, I'll try and be the disguising rogue rather than ubersweat trickstabber.
Spy as a whole is just so odd, I've never seen another class in another first person shooter even remotely as unique as him.
The skill sealing is massive, there's always something to learn and improve on even if you're the best Spy player.
Skill ceiling
And how they made the insta-kill, go invisible on demand class balanced. It honestly baffled me when i first played the game and realized Spy was the weakest class despite his insta-kill mechanics.
@@YourLocalRaider Considering you almost always instantly dies the moment you're found out, its a fair trade-off
@@YourLocalRaider spy wasn't even in the game at first, it's a bug
@@ishigamithanku4960
Spy was always a part of tf2 and tfc, disguises were a bug from tfc that was made a feature in tf2
This is expertly crafted and edited!
Some disguises I've found work well are:
Scout, crouching, with his secondary out
Demo + Sniper with their melees out, spamming X + 2 ("Spy!")
Pyro with his secondary out
kinda ironic
*you* - "SPY! SPY!"
*Team* - "Where?"
*YOU* - "Right behind ya!" _stab stab stab_
I thought the intros were cool so here are all of them.
11:07-Scout
11:44-Soldier
12:00-Pyro
12:30-Demoman
12:51-Heavy
13:13-Engineer
13:36-Medic
14:02-Sniper
14:43-Spy
Pyro’s menacing piano theme is amazing
14:53
you missed a rather important point about the Spy disguise; the disguise mask of your disguise is randomly chosen from the 9 classes which is another thing that can instantly give you away as a heavy/soldier/demo disguised spy moving at his regular 107% is extremely easy to spot.
great video, lots of advice for newer spies to work with!
damn i didnt even know that!
Is there any way to change your fake disguise? Or for that matter any way to tell who you're fake disguised as?
@@Introbuluspretty sure the mask appears on the disguise model on your hud, so you could see it there.
But lets be honest, if someone is paying close enough attention to see what your mask looks like, you were probably getting spy checked anyway.
@@dovahkat9635 I just want to do the full spy roleplay meta of pretending to act like the fake class I'm disguised as to fool my team into thinking I'm a legitimate spy.
And then try to backstab my own teammates when I fall too far into the roleplay.
@@Introbulus "he's spent too long in the game, he could be in too deep. You, new spy, go and see if you can get him out of there"
3:44 not only that, but since changing disguises is way faster than putting on a new disguise, disguising first as your team while walking to combat then changing to a normal one is faster and reduces the chance of the enemy team seeing you through spawn wallhacks
Sniper works really well if you're on anything high up/with open view
Incorrect
@@justfriccoff3363 ?
Just saying, this is an amazingly edited video! Looking forward to seeing more.
Y'know, you're one of the last people I expected to see in this comment section, but it's pretty cool that you're here 👍
@@Seanderson3 I didn't see it coming either
I don’t play Spy often, but one time I distinctly remember is when I was able to fool a pretty good Pyro by pretending to be in a Sniper duel. Somehow, he didn’t notice the fact that I wasn’t actually firing.
Jontohil: “I assure you, if you caught them, they are nothing like me.”
3:45 Also kind of small detail but I like disguising as friendly scout when pushing a cart or doing objective due to the head hitbox displacement, unsure if it ever saved me from headshot but there's a chance
Also props to spy mains like you, I always preferred the "actors" over "trickstab kunai" which treat disguise as just a "fool a sentry gun" tool
Never thought of that, it’d also have the added benefit of the reduced redisguise time once you need to jump into the fight
im a medic main, and i would much rather run into people who actually play spy properly instead of kunai spies in litterally every single game i get into. im serious. I would rather die to someone actually being good at the game rather than someone who abuses tf2s janky af hitboxes and netcode.
@@Ph0n3numb3r kunai spies on their way to perfectly replicate and best a TAS speedrun of a game (they have a good gaming chair)
i always love how i use the trickstab kunai weeb spy loadout but yet i try the best i can to blend in with trick stabbing as a last resort. works super well and it’s pretty fun
@@Ph0n3numb3r That's just different playstyles, I don't understand how you can call a single playstyle a "proper" one and "actually good at the game"
Disguises are also way stronger if you go for a lot of gun picks. It's much harder to sus a spy out if they're not making a beeline for the enemy's back. I tend to switch it up a lot just because of that
It's really good at catching low health players running for health as well.
That's what the Enforcer encourages you to do, finishing off low hp ennemies while disguised and your 20% damage bonus, too bad its outclassed by the Ambassador
There's a secret that I wanted to tell you about backstab.
Let them go backwards into you.
I use default revolver because of this lol, one time a solo demo man was half health so I just unlocked and gunned him down,
@@rift7609 Honestly I even DM full health demos if I'm close enough to them lmao, they're pretty viable for a 3 shot kill unlike pyro who you need to stay away from. Demos are pretty easy unless they're really cracked
12:50 I’ve realised standing next to another Demo’s sticky trap with your Stickybomb launcher out is a very very convincing disguise.
bro missed an opportunity to call it spychology
I thought that this was just going to be an entertaining video for me, because I already know a lot of information about/strategies with the spy, but it turns out that I actually learned quite a few things that I overlooked before. For example, I didn't realize that the sniper disguise is pretty much ignored by the enemy team.
Who needs cloak and dagger when you have sniper disguise?
(I jest tho C&D is underrated asf)
@@Jontohil2 Or maybe you just can't find people who use cloak and dagger because they're ALWAYS CLOAKED.
@@mishagaming1075 i use cloak and dagger, can confirm, i have been cloaked for the past six years after three counts of home invasion. the police are yet to find me. they have resorted to randomly spraying fire into any corner they see.
Something to keep in mind is if a medic is healing you when you’re disguised as a scout, it’s almost immediately obvious to the medic that he’s not gaining the speed boost to match a scout’s own speed. Furthermore, a slight correction: the ubersaw doesn’t have a higher crit chance, nor do any other medic melees; rather I’ve heard that crit chance increases based on the damage dealt from the player the medic is healing.
Every class has a different melee crit consistency, medic has the highest
9:34 Missed the opportunity to say, 'Disguise usage is like a trickstab, with a little more focus on the tricks and a little less focus on the stab." But i guess that's more of, like Soundsmith's style, so good video either way!
I read that in Soundsmith’s voice and it does sound like something he’d say in Mann’s guide
9:25 he had 12 health. did you not know that Spy has a gun?
He had an opportunity to use the knife
The TF2 community always has gems hidden in plain sight. I love seeing small channels just appear out of nowhere and start releasing bangers.
I've been waiting for someone to make a video like this to prove how useful disguise can be, it feels like a lot of people just say 'disguising is useless' without really learning how to use it. There were a lot of tips here I didn't even realise - it seems i never knew how good disguise actually was myself either.
Same
A lot of people say it is useless because some decent strategies can give it away.
If you see an ally and are out of combat shoot/melee.
If they do the same back not a spy... if they don't or are moving in your direction shoot more.
A very notable one is "gun greeting" your Engineer, a spy won't be shooting you.
With decent team positioning it is possible to completely invalidate disguises.
I play Gun Spy, so I don’t really used disguises. But I have to admit, convincing the entire enemy team you’re their Sniper is so fun.
@@Buglin_Burger7878 naturally you can outplay people who use these techniques. if you are running around at the back of enemy lines for an extended period of time, someone will shoot at you. but if you only choose to become visible during action on the front lines its easy to fool players for 1-3 seconds to get a backstab
This guy is a great youtuber, he's funny, a great editor, makes good guides, seriously, why is he not more popular!?!?
Because, algorithm.
Cause he plays the Fr*nch class
4:57 the funny is that there is a knife specifically built around the concept of disguising as whoever you kill
14:38 I don't know why but this scene is really funny to me
I loved the part where you disguised as a sniper with kukri to fool the demo, reminds me of the old times when I played tf2 religiously and whenever I played spy, I sucked at trickstabs so I learned to be good at acting; honestly, acting is harder to pull off but the feeling is more rewarding, it’s way too satisfying to quit haha
Thanks for the great video!!
This guide seriously helps. I've sucked at disguising, and keep in mind, I started playing tf2 in 2018. You probably think someone who's played tf2 for years would be good, but no, I always sucked. But with these guides, I've genuinely seen improvements. I really do owe you a lot, jonto
Disguises don’t have to work very long either, the amount of times I’ve realized someone is a spy a second before they kill me is too high to count.
Pyro is usually my go to disguise for all situations, my muscle memory instantly presses '3' when I open my disguise kit.
I find that throughout longer rounds, with the more common scout disguise, the opponents wise up to it a lot quicker than with pyro. Pyro is just a good disguise, movement speed is good, I'm already used to 100% from before spy's buff, pyro is also expected to be an oddity of sorts, even if ideal in close quarters, they don't look as suspicious when out of their close range element. Pyro's a jack of all trades, they'd be acceptable in any situation a scout would be.
Another kind of niche observation, but I think fully stock pyro doesn't look as out of place as with other classes, for those games when there's no enemy playing on the class you're disguised as, it's not that big of an issue for a pyro disguise.
I do actually agree that pyro is a really good disguise (but I avoided saying that to avoid the "best disguise" thing). I'd defo recommend switching it from time to time just to keep people guessing, or switching it when they THINK they're onto you.
This is an absolutely stunningly crafted vid, love the editing and SFM elements, can see you being huge in a small amount of time with content like this. Keep it up!:)
2:04 NOM.
7:43 It also works to look AWAY from the team while running away from them. It won't be suspicious unless you're looking at the Medic as well, but when going to the backline of the enemy team, it could be suspicious unless the Medic seems to trust you.
I've never given the spy a proper try but your videos have been straight to the point and really helpful. I got a nasty chain stab the other night and I'm now fully addicted to the class
1:29 You can also disguise into the same class while holding a weapon to switch to that corresponding weapon slot. If you're confused, just think of it like you are disguising into your last used disguise(the current one you are using) not with B, but with the long way around.
Also on acting: Check your HUD once in a while if you've been disguised a while. If you accidentally changed to your melee, you're usually pretty sus unless you're an engi or spy.
A favorite disguise of mine is actually a sniper bot. Like it sounds really dumb but it surprisingly works especially if a bot previously joined the game. Just disguise as sniper and flick around your mouse and the enemy team will just think your a bit lol
it really puts in to perspective how much i use these tricks
like how i always shoot at friendly spys or how over used my disguises are
and nice work on the sfm and music brings it all together amazingly
As someone who loves the your eternal reward, I can say that spy's disguises are very underrated. People who say that spy may as well not have a disguise kit don't know what they're talking about. Amazing video, great advice!
2:10 heavy: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAAAaaaaAAAAAAAAaaaaAAaaaAaa
4:33 As a player learning how to play da engineer, thank you for bringing this fact to my attention.
9:10 you use this clip as just a simple example. But to me and probably a lot of other people, that acting is worth an Oscar nomination.
9:18 that was GENIUS
1:39 Actually, the game assigns some VERY weird terms to Spy's item slots. What should be his primary (the Revolver) is called a "secondary", and what should be his secondary (the Sapper) is called a "building". I guess Valve's logic is that the Revolver is a pistol, and therefore HAS to be a secondary. Either that, or they consider his Knife his primary.
I’m aware of this as well, but it makes the system easier to explain if I call the revolver the primary
13:59 Scotsman skullcutter AM I A JOKE TO YOU!!
Very informative, and engaging! Why are there not a lot of people watching this? This is actual quality!
4:02 holy SHIT this is smooth as hell my dude, also based Qumu fan
World Bowser
5:35 min
ITS NOT A SPY, ITS THE *GOD*
15:21 scary
8:44 in general I would advisory against disguising as a pro in most case. Even if you some how act like someone who’s loadout is worth more then your house and has never left theirs before fire over your head and a bright shining gun isn’t exactly conspicuous. A noob acting weird will always be more believable then a pro. Think about all the times you have spy checked a Gibus for them to just turn out to be confused little creatures (bless their souls) or when you have purposely walked up to your team mate when you other wise wouldn’t have to check out their Cool loadout. One of the biggest tips I can give for spy disguises is don’t think “What should I be doing as spy” think “What would I be doing if I was playing this class?”
Really enjoyed watching this and absolutely loved the unique flair in the editing!
Using the disguise kit effectively is the most fun part of playing spy (for me anyway) and is the reason why I always choose him when nobody else is spy, there's something so satisfying about tricking the enemy into believing you're their teammate and constantly fooling unsuspected players, regardless of their own skill.
4:02 that transition man i love it.
A good tip is to assert your self in a situation that feels natural, I once got fooled as engie by a spy disguised as demo who just went next to my dispenser like he was recovering in my nest like everyone else, I was fooled because I was heavily defending my nest while being confused on if I was bumping into him or the dispenser, combine that with him being healed by my building, preventing him from dying before I was fooled, he did everything he needed to blend in without dying
This editing is INSANELY good. The contents are already fantastic but god DAMN this is so good. As an editor I have so much respect
This is a really damn good video honestly. The format, style, soundworks, and actual information are amazing throughout this entire video! Phenomenal job making this.
That is the actual most insane editing and animating I’ve ever seen, keep up the extraordinary work!
Oh my god I can't believe this. Watching your Spy series almost instantly improved my gameplay. Almost all of it was because of this video. The idea that you should actually act as the class you're disguised feels like it should be obvious, but once you start consciously trying to blend in, you get way better results than just assuming "oh I'm disguised I'm basically invisible."
I took down a full engie nest today while a pybro was spychecking everyone in sight! What a rush! Thank you so much for this, I would recommend this to all spy-mains-in-training everywhere!
Also, for some reason snipers love to assume that a pyro rambling next to them is just spy checking. Use this knowledge wisely!
Just wanted to say it is incredibly surprising for a video of this high quality to come out of a channel with relatively few subscribers. Keep up the good work!
The visuals make are so fun and easy to understand. I really like the way this man presents
amazing editing and music for the video, keep it up!
10:00 that’s a good point that I wanted to do/happen but I keep forgetting about it before I get to use it
5 sec edit: -and thought that other didn’t think about it
Just dont let this timeless masterpiece of a game die out 🥺🙏🙏
The game is immortal, I don't think it'll just die out.
In a similar vein to the hitbox displacement on scout you should consider your disguise's model. The scout has a very small character model, so he's overall less visible. It may seem insignificant, but if you decloak, and an enemy sees a massive heavy and his mini gun poking out from around the corner popping into existence, they're gonna know there's a spy
I absolutely love these guides! And it's super refreshing to see a Spy player that acknowledges how it's the little details that can make or break a successful kill as well as going in-depth with acting as your disguise! It's all just so perfect!
Also as others have said, the editing in these is brilliant!
3:52 i actually do this sometimes. It typically works decently and it's really funny making the enemy wonder if my own team mates are dead or if its me
This is actually one of the best made videos I've ever seen. The editing is perfect, the amount of effort that was dumped into it is perfect. I can't believe you only have 30k subs.
Thank you man, as a spy main since 2011 i really appreciate the new guides for the people barely playing the game! Also, we have the same spy load out haha.
This guide had a lot of info I knew already, i.e. acting (which is my favorite part of being spy), but the extra stuff like the switching disguise weapons was something I forgot how to do, thanks a lot mate! :D
I've had some really amazing plays with Spy's disguises. My favorites are usually when I even manage to fool my experienced buddies, who usually have played TF2 longer than I have.
My favorite play that I've ever made with Spy was with my buddy Polter, who was also playing Spy with me. One could argue that having more than one Spy is problematic, but when we BOTH disguised as the enemy, we often had times where we walked through each other, fooling the enemy team into thinking we were friendly.
I mean really, if you see your Engineer and Pyro walk through each other, your brain automatically goes "Yup, that checks out. Nothing wrong there." It led to some really awesome plays and even funnier mind games lol
Awesome video man. There are so many players that overlook the disguise kit or don't know how to use it, and it's great to see tutorials like this.
4:50 I laughed so much that once I cracked my neck accidentally and unlocked 3rd person mode, I was still laughing.
just wanna mention, sometimes passing up on a backstab that you could have taken will fool players who are looking at you. This can help you get a higher priority pick
That's a really good point, you can see me putting that into action at 16:07.
This is very much true. In my experience, though, it can be a risk vs reward assessment, as if you wait too long for the perfect pick, the odds of you dying to something stupid become much higher, and you might die without accomplishing anything instead of getting a low value stab and maybe getting out.
i already knew most of the stuff in the video and yet stuck around for the whole video even after i heard the answer for what i was looking for in the beginning - all because the STYLE dude.. the style of this video is so fucking good i was literally kicking my feet through the whole video because of the way you edited and created it
Man this video was really cool to watch. And the best part was when you talking about acting like them. Nice
12:25 Spy when he's getting caught by a Pyro.
13:12 Spies, if you see a Hoovy on your team or on the enemy team then disguise as them and hold out the sandvich or what ever lunchbox item they're using. Ideally disguise as an enemy Hoovy because some players will shoot friendly players anyways. Either way, it's still bit of a wild card but can work. If you encounter the other enemy Hoovy then there's a fair chance it'll still work because it isn't uncommon for friendly Spies to disguise as other players, especially other friendly players. However, be warned that betrayal of trust will result in making those players Spy check their Hoovy when they see them.
The short of this is that Friendly players can be used to get backstabs.
I'm a spy main but that's just mean...
@@Jontohil2 I've seen Spies do it... and are the reason why I kill friendly Spies more often than not. NEVER TRUST A FRIENDLY SPY.
Beautiful editing, great writing, and very informative. What a lovely video~
9:47
Teammates don't even have to ask, if I'm there, I'll very likely shoot them just to be safe, but also help buy the disguise
i really like what you did with the heavy at 2:05
For someone who plays as an actually good spy and doesn't just trickstab or rely on wonky hitboxes/melee reg 24/7, I have mad respect for you playing spy the way he's meant to be played.
Great tips! The production quality was also amazing throughout the entirety of the video
I really love how precise and well made these videos are, even if i don't need them as i already have enough experience to know all this, i definitly do appreciate the quality of this conent :)
A spy who can trick stab can be pretty scary, but still easily delt with so long as you remember that you have a gun. But a spy who can ACT? Now that's a nightmare.
3:25 its so fucking wild to me that i came across this video because that clip is from my Girlfriend's youtube channel lmao, i was not expecting to see one of her clips in a tf2 video but its so cool and im glad that clip got into this video!
She showed up in my discord after you messaged her. The story behind it is that because of a config I used to use, I don't have spawning wallhacks anymore, so I need an example clip of it, and her clip ended up being the best showcase of it, and I made sure to rightfully credit it.
@@Jontohil2 hell yeah 🤘
You know a game is good and iconic when most guides are recent despite the game being really old
Adding each class' own unique music when you went over the disguises was such a nice touch. I loved it!
You're damn good at making these videos. Congrats to the editing!
9:54 *RIP Camera*
were is the gsa passer 5:05
1/1000 video unwattachabe!!!!!!!!!!!
Great editing, keep up the grind my man👌
the editing on this video is crazy good, love the video production as a whole
0:45 mario and luigi dream team, the song from under pillow castle or sometimes under mushrise park
I really like this video, from the scripting to the editing to the delivery. My only criticism is a nitpick that you don't have timestamps for the songs, because you picked really good background music.
production quality on this is insane, i got goosebumps at the individual disguises. holy shit
This is such a good video, one of the best TF2 videos I've seen! Thanks for making this!