@@emmanuelalvarez6487they wouldn't expect the engi having splash damage with his sentry because they only have gun, and not rocket launcher, genius if you think about it
It’s still the most ridiculous fact that they nerfed the revolver that takes skill to get crits with, but not the one that just hands you free crits with no falloff for doing what spy does normally.
Walk to the enemy teleporter Sap the entrance while mashing shots at it Have two crits 2 tap the Medic from across the map (Also while being a diet stock revolver when it has no crits is absurd like what the hell)
@@vyor8837 That isn't relevant though, as in its current state, that is what it can do. Even at its worst, it could still be used as a diet stock revolver with no crits without losing too many important thresholds, while also getting perfect accuracy 102s that need no increased aim for the price of... playing Spy. There was never an adjustment in playstyle at any point in the weapon's existence.
I am very pleased with the amount of Enforcer love given in this video, people usually just shrug it off, but you show that it has value, and I applaud you for that.
Poor enforcer. It's not like it's significantly bad, it just really doesn't justify equipping it very often since the fire rate penalty is more relevant than its upsides most of the time, so it's basically just a 20% slower revolver (though it still fires faster than the shotguns do)
I'm with ya one who enforces the gun is fantastic in a lot of great cases people just don't think outside the box, including poor omega here who doesn't see the useful utilities with other ways to put on the hurt he just doesn't see
@@OmegaRC59I would argue the opposite. 0.1 of a second is pretty negligible overall - it's far from slow, you just now fire at the same rate as all the shotguns and grenade launchers (stock = 0.5 p/sec ; enforcer = 0.6 p/sec). It's worth being able to 2 shot light classes and 3 shot pyros/demos + the added bonus to screw with spies and wrangler engies
As a spy main, I'll give you guys a little secret, using your gun will make you land more trickstabs and you don't even have to hit your shots. So, you can fire away with the revolver and when you get close, you can hit them with a matador or lvl 2 stab depending on your position and your target's
@wizardofthedumb6640 somewhat. People might start to habitually return to dodging bullets rather than running away-which gives the spy time to close the gap.
Jontohil2 x Martincitopants; the crossover we never asked for, but the one we deserve. But yeah, removing long-range crits on the Ambassador when they already gave range falloff to said crits was fucking asinine, and I'm still waiting for someone at Valve to realize Jungle Inferno/Blue Moon left us with an utterly messy weapon balance. *_For six years._*
Most cursed thing about the diamondback: You just killed the heavy, medic comes at you, and when you pull out the gun you find out you somehow have 12 crits ready(you sapped a sentry nest and harassed an f2p sniper a few times)
Here's a spy tip i thought of If you manage to sap an enemy sentry and kill the engineer maintaining it, but you just barely survive the fight with low health, don't sap the nearby dispenser first, disguise as a teammate and gain some health back, then sap it, to be really safe, disguise as an engineer, most players don't think to check any friendly buildings and the engineers that built them, i tried it once, no one even noticed that the guy i disguised as didn't own the dispenser, until i sapped it of course.
It’s also worth noting that dispensers restore your cloak even while your cloaked, so there’s sometimes benefits for keeping the dispenser up and running until you have no more use for it, or just let your teammates finish the job once the nest becomes overrun.
@@nonproductiveproduction spy isn't engineer's hard counter(that's demoman's role), spy's role is to sabotage and pick off the enemy team one by one, sapping buildings is just a piece of the whole pie.
Yes, Martin sent me here. But I checked out some of your other videos first, and your editing and humor are incredible. Exactly the kind of TF2-ber I love watching and have been dying for content from.
I'm currently only using the Diamondback in VSH. It's arguably the best Spy gun there, since you get 2 crits for every stab landed on Saxton's rock-solid backside.
@@mickafra1564actually the l'entranjer is a better adding because you can reload the dead ringer faster and abuse the speed bust to evolve in the feared "speed spy"
dead ringer + the stranger (+ spycicle for anti-fire, kunai to exploit f2ps for HP) --> tank spy dead ringer to parry deadly damage, decloak instantly with speed for dodge-tanking, land four shots, parry deadly damage again you can even switch to an off angle, at the cost of needing to land more shots before tanking again (note: you are still very fragile with a large amount of time without big damage resistances, so this is more like a "mosquito spy" than actual tank spy. unless you convince a medic to try it out with you, or do the "exploit f2p" route)
I get a small flash of terror whenever I see a spy pull out his gun. Be on the receiving end of being shot enough, you know it does way more damage than you'd think.
The amount of spies I killed with my enforcer are still way too high. I love every single spy that gets confused in chat when I still deal full damage when they tried to dead ringer on me.
once I went to an anime convention dressed up as the Blu spy. I made everything myself- stock watch, stock knife, a dead ringer (in case the watch wasn't able to be finished in time) and a gun. The guards at the convention didn't allow the gun to be brought into the convention, despite it not posing any threat whatsoever. Maube they feared the gun's power??
A way I've described the l'etranger and had it been described to me is as follows: "It's still a revolver" 32 damage is still 32 damage and is nothing to scoff at, it's still great burst damage. It may be less, but you're still chunking a quarter of a light class's health and they're really not going to appreciate that.
@@darreltembak4043 I think thats mostly due to the fact that the rocket launcher is already a very inconsistent weapon, and the liberty launcher, unlike the l'etranger, doesn't have any kind of primary passive benefit you would be using it for. L'etranger gets away with lower damage because dealing damage was never it's selling point. The cloak is, I think most people can agree it's better to at least HAVE that option to defend yourself. The Liberty Launcher's whole point is being soldier's primary damage source, but it actively punishes you for using it as intended and barely gives you an upside to compensate.
12:49 also note that it doesn't pierce the resistance Saxton Hale gets while charging up a charge attack. This fact is extremely disappointing and has ruined my life-long dream of being a VSH gunspy main.
Hey, have you ever thought that the Spy is the class that benefits most from the color of the team he's on? Blue makes him stand out, but the red team's suit is closer to brown, which is the predominant color on most maps.
Hearing more about the Enforcer's stats entices me on wanting to use it. I can imagine the situations where "resistances" become useless during or fleeing a fight.
I love how valve just turned enforcer from a close-range gunspy gun to gun that supposed for sniping, and amby from a sniping gun to a close-range gun. The thing is wrong with amby nerf was the fact that it was dropped in the same update when sniper takes his bow, like, you know, "sniper is not supposed to be a close/mid-range fighter", and they nerfed the huntsman in the same upd... Oh, wait!
@@NibelungenwarmongersSame for jarate bushwacka, Sniper is "weak at close range". So of course they had to balance Spy so he’s weak at long and medium range using this (the falloff starts way too close)
@@Cubicwar not If you nerf the quickscopes or kuntsman it would be as bad as amby nerf. It was added as an alternative playstyles, just bring back old amby/enforcer and don't nerf the sniper. Gunspy/amby spyper was legit and balanced playstyles same with huntsman today.
Diamondback and Frontier Justice are literally the only weapons that benefit by either doing your job (DB) or not doing your job (FJ, maintaining Sentry)
Something I like to do as Spy is to use the disguise kit to blend with my own team. It can be really useful for team fights since you can pretend to be a class people will prioritize less and expose their back to in favor of targeting someone else. It can also trip people up with the Enforcer as you can chase the enemy while pretending to hold a melee while getting the bonus damage.
i laughed my ass off with the first 2 minutes thinking bro was simply explaining to all of us how the gun works like we had no idea LMAO (btw nice Martin crossover lol)
For me personally, I am not shy to use the gun because I came from other shooters but enjoy playing spy. I use the gun at every opportunity where I don’t backstab. Snipe low hp people? Here you go. Fight the entire team with amby? Here you go ez. Spy’s gun is one of the most consistent guns in the game imo
8:39 “It’s the only thing that can refill the cloak of the Dead Ringer” Not the full truth. The Big Earner does this as well. I do think these 3 all work so well together BTW. Love this combo.
When he mentioned the Cursed tier of Gun, a fire siren went off near me. I only noticed it wasn't editing into the video when it kept playing after he switched sections
@@chordalharmony I mainly use it when 1. The engineer is wrangling or 2. Vaccinator medics. I have a strange version just saying " You made me use this "
Spy's gun has always been far scarier than his knife, if I get killed by a backstab then I made a mistake. But if I get killed by Spy's Revolver, I know that there was nothing that I could do. I was personally selected for penetration by munitional purpose.
@@Jontohil2 amazing level until I spend like two hours trying to not touch water. The hallway with water on the floor and a Cerberus in the middle is easily the single worst section in the game for me purely because I had to reset there 6 or 7 times
10:17 i wouldnt say they really went overkill. thats a fairly long distance, a distance you'd be better off just leaving to your friendly sniper. this gun isnt a mini sniper rifle, you dont sit in a corner and do 54 - 102 damage every time you click somebody's head
Detonate the Stickies. Do it. We both know they are teamcolored so he won't take any damage. Also there is like a 35% chance that Hoovie is actually a Spy with his Dead Ringer out, waiting for someone to attack so he can enact righteous judgement uppon them.
Dude your vids are incredible and if you couldn’t tell i appreciate them already im just poking the algorithm: The editing, animation, cool spymovie graphics and humor is what i live for -(naturally) crazy tf2 fan
Diamondback also shines in mvm, the only tool that helps spy to deal damage against tanks without relying on canteens or upgrades much. When they gonna nerf it I hope they'll keep it for mvm at least or buff enforcer against tanks why not lmao
2:04 I'm pretty sure critical hits only remove damage falloff, not ramp-up. Therefore, revolver crits would do a maximum of 180 at point blank and 120 at long range. EDIT: This is wrong; only mini-crits work this way.
Your threat to blow up the Red Hoovy doesn't scare me, Jonto. Those are red stickybombs. The Hoovy was safe all along. So, just as your threat has no teeth... *_SPY HAS NO GUN_*
One thing to note about the interaction between the wrangler shield and the enforcer is that while the shield is up, the engineer also gets a 66% repair penalty on the sentry, so it's really easy to outdamage the engineer at any range, since buildings aren't affected by damage falloff. A single enforcer clip can take down a wrangled sentry
The amount of times Jonto had to clearly resist to use a gunshot transition in this video is enough for me to have a seizure over the lack of funny flashing lights
In the case of ambassador, it can(probably) also be used as a ranged backstab at home, due to the fact that you can see the enemies's health(so you can find those under, like, 100 hp), oneshot them before anyone notices you and dip to kill another day. However, the damage penalty hinders such use However, that is just how my logic logics, i don't even play tf2(i have a case of shitty internet disorder)
8:05i have that...help I never been able to mange cloak, I stright up can't play stock cuz...well I suck even tho spy is my most played class I only started playing spy when I got c&d and never changed since
Having my friend play Thousand Year Door for the first time ever, and being used to hearing random Sonic music in the background of videos, hearing the X-Naut moon base theme when this video started was a SHOCK
I’m really glad you made a video about the knife, I think it’s really underrated. I really wish valve would add a long range primary for him though, it’s really frustrating to fight someone who’s outside of melee range, something like a gun would fix this so here’s hoping next summer update we get that Also jonto you idiot you spelt practice at 2:31
Back during the spy vs. sniper update, I was the only person I knew with a hat. I randomly landed the Fancy Fedora, and I decided that meant I HAD to play spy. The community server I played on called me "The Pimp Spy" because I played Spy about half the time(other half medic because medic was my real main), always had the fedora, did most of my fighting with the ambassador, and basically never disguised. Despite this outlandish strategy, my performance was actually pretty good. I would tend to do ACTUAL spy stuff only when I sniffed out that a big push was in the works, sapping sentries as teammates moved in or backstabbing medics seconds before they popped their uber (or in a few sad cases I click before the uber and the knife impacts after the uber. That's how close I cut it sometimes). My K:D tended to actually be positive just because nobody expects spy to stand back, shoot you with their gun, whip out the dead ringer when you shoot a rocket at them, decloak immediately, and resume shooting. Obviously I got a reputation for doing this amongst the server's regulars, and as the only spy on the server with a hat I was easy to identify, but they still couldn't always break the habit of treating me like they would treat any other spy who's only looking to get sick backstabs.
I'm a new player and a spy main with 20 hours on spy and 92 hours on tf2 and I swear the moment you said it's hitscan i started hitting almost all of my shots and now even one of my 4 load out slots is specially reserved for gunspy to remind me to use my gun and not slam my head against a wall while I play spy like an ofbrand demoknight 🗿
It kinda sucks knowing that the Diamondback has become the new cursed gun in the community because the Ambassador got nerfed hard. I like the Diamondback, more for its futuristic design that is an obvious give away that it’s from Deus Ex machina, but if using it really is that bad, then at least the Enforcer exists. (I also always had a feeling the the Enforcer was under appreciated especially nowadays when nearly every medic uses the Vaccinator because they don’t like people having fun.)
"If knife don't work, gun. If gun don't work... run"
10/10
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How is this only have 1 reply And 55 likes?
"And if dat don't work, use more gun."
- some texan guy with 11 PhDs
Nigerundayo
if run dont work
you're done
The ten 10 hour Pyro waddling around the corner is still Spy's greatest enemy. As it is immune to any psychological damage.
Can't fool a player's game sense if they have no game sense.
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@@Gfr4OfficalYT2020
Ten 10
(i think thats a 10 hour burst man reference)
5:36 "If a knife don't work - use a gun. And if that don't work - use more gun." (said some strange texan spy probably)
Me
That’s engineer
@@cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160r/woooosh
Engineer litteraly gave tips to his greatest enemy 🤦♂️
@@emmanuelalvarez6487they wouldn't expect the engi having splash damage with his sentry because they only have gun, and not rocket launcher, genius if you think about it
Was not expecting Martin to show up, I was pleasantly surprised and you did a really good job mimicking his editing style
He probably did that segment of the video himself
I thought that he is martains new editor
@@themedic7933 there is literally a message that says Jonto edited it right after the cameo ends
@@zaggyzombieYe i see that now
The drive is long
It’s still the most ridiculous fact that they nerfed the revolver that takes skill to get crits with, but not the one that just hands you free crits with no falloff for doing what spy does normally.
Did the diamondback even have the current stats?
because they're limited, you can't just stay in one spot and become the sniper© you're gonna need to go to get those in close range
Walk to the enemy teleporter
Sap the entrance while mashing shots at it
Have two crits
2 tap the Medic from across the map
(Also while being a diet stock revolver when it has no crits is absurd like what the hell)
@@kylepangilinan9075 it didn't use to get crits like that
@@vyor8837 That isn't relevant though, as in its current state, that is what it can do. Even at its worst, it could still be used as a diet stock revolver with no crits without losing too many important thresholds, while also getting perfect accuracy 102s that need no increased aim for the price of... playing Spy. There was never an adjustment in playstyle at any point in the weapon's existence.
Who would know that spy had a gun
Who knew
not me i thought while he was sapping my shit that i could just stand in corner
good point
Holy f*ck I just noticed
wait really?
6:14 Spyin’s a good job mon pote. (Mon pote: French for mate)
We also need a soundtrack for the intros, these songs are fire!
I am very pleased with the amount of Enforcer love given in this video, people usually just shrug it off, but you show that it has value, and I applaud you for that.
Poor enforcer. It's not like it's significantly bad, it just really doesn't justify equipping it very often since the fire rate penalty is more relevant than its upsides most of the time, so it's basically just a 20% slower revolver (though it still fires faster than the shotguns do)
I'm with ya one who enforces the gun is fantastic in a lot of great cases people just don't think outside the box, including poor omega here who doesn't see the useful utilities with other ways to put on the hurt he just doesn't see
@@OmegaRC59I would argue the opposite. 0.1 of a second is pretty negligible overall - it's far from slow, you just now fire at the same rate as all the shotguns and grenade launchers (stock = 0.5 p/sec ; enforcer = 0.6 p/sec). It's worth being able to 2 shot light classes and 3 shot pyros/demos + the added bonus to screw with spies and wrangler engies
Yeah. Never even realized it bypassed dead ringer resistances. Definetly need to give it more of a try.
As a spy main, I'll give you guys a little secret, using your gun will make you land more trickstabs and you don't even have to hit your shots. So, you can fire away with the revolver and when you get close, you can hit them with a matador or lvl 2 stab depending on your position and your target's
wait how? is it like throwing them off or something?
People probably associate the gun with bad spies because all the trickstabbers forget that spy has a gun so they don’t expect to get trickstabbed
You actually see this in action during the last clip of the intro and outro sequence
@wizardofthedumb6640 somewhat. People might start to habitually return to dodging bullets rather than running away-which gives the spy time to close the gap.
@@Jontohil2 hey im a spy main and i have a question. what do you think the game would be like if spy had a gun?
Jontohil2 x Martincitopants; the crossover we never asked for, but the one we deserve.
But yeah, removing long-range crits on the Ambassador when they already gave range falloff to said crits was fucking asinine, and I'm still waiting for someone at Valve to realize Jungle Inferno/Blue Moon left us with an utterly messy weapon balance. *_For six years._*
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Hell naw fuck Sniper 2 Electric Boogaloo
Most cursed thing about the diamondback: You just killed the heavy, medic comes at you, and when you pull out the gun you find out you somehow have 12 crits ready(you sapped a sentry nest and harassed an f2p sniper a few times)
4:43 ROCK AND STONE BROTHER!
ROCK AND STONE
ROCK N ROLL
ROCK AND STONE FOREVER ⛏️
ROCK AND STOOONE
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE
Here's a spy tip i thought of
If you manage to sap an enemy sentry and kill the engineer maintaining it, but you just barely survive the fight with low health, don't sap the nearby dispenser first, disguise as a teammate and gain some health back, then sap it, to be really safe, disguise as an engineer, most players don't think to check any friendly buildings and the engineers that built them, i tried it once, no one even noticed that the guy i disguised as didn't own the dispenser, until i sapped it of course.
It’s also worth noting that dispensers restore your cloak even while your cloaked, so there’s sometimes benefits for keeping the dispenser up and running until you have no more use for it, or just let your teammates finish the job once the nest becomes overrun.
@@Jontohil2 now that i think about it, is "spy psychology - dealing with engineers" next?
@@toastyboi8737 Ah yes, talking about how to counter a class the Spy was literally made to counter.
@@nonproductiveproduction spy isn't engineer's hard counter(that's demoman's role), spy's role is to sabotage and pick off the enemy team one by one, sapping buildings is just a piece of the whole pie.
@@toastyboi8737 Well you don't need a whole video about it, just sap Sentry, backstab the Engie, finish off with your gun, done.
3:30 i really didn't expect this collab
11:04 is peak TF2.
Beautiful animation and to-the-point information, I can’t wait for your channel to pop off.
Yes, Martin sent me here. But I checked out some of your other videos first, and your editing and humor are incredible. Exactly the kind of TF2-ber I love watching and have been dying for content from.
Man the amount of quality you put into your videos, you’re super underrated. Hope you get way more popular in the future 👍
the Deep Rock Galactic reference for the pyro is very funny. But I would love to see some DRG game play, on the second channel.
Honestly top tier stuff.
I'm currently only using the Diamondback in VSH. It's arguably the best Spy gun there, since you get 2 crits for every stab landed on Saxton's rock-solid backside.
Funnily enough it’s the only time I’ll actually use the Diamondback against real players since it’s actually balanced there
@@Jontohil2 how can you not use the diamondback against real players, he's the most bullied class and i just love punishing overconfident players
@@bruschetta7711 because it hurts them more when you’re actually good at the game
@@bruschetta7711
"Professionals have standards"
_- Jontohil2, I think_
@@X-SPONGEDsir that is a Sniper quote
The amount of effort that must've gone into the intro alone is insane. This man is criminally underrated
5:39 If gun don't work:
...
Use more gun
8:39 Isn't the Big Earner also capable of restoring Dead Ringer cloak? Amazing video either way! :)
it is, that's why, if you wanna be the annoying neighborhood spy, you pick dead ringer, big earner, and the Diamondback
@@mickafra1564actually the l'entranjer is a better adding because you can reload the dead ringer faster and abuse the speed bust to evolve in the feared "speed spy"
@@jacopovictorpiraina7235 You move fast, you kill fast, and you die fast.
@@gratefulgamer7907 Life simulator speedrun
dead ringer + the stranger (+ spycicle for anti-fire, kunai to exploit f2ps for HP) --> tank spy
dead ringer to parry deadly damage, decloak instantly with speed for dodge-tanking, land four shots, parry deadly damage again
you can even switch to an off angle, at the cost of needing to land more shots before tanking again
(note: you are still very fragile with a large amount of time without big damage resistances, so this is more like a "mosquito spy" than actual tank spy. unless you convince a medic to try it out with you, or do the "exploit f2p" route)
I get a small flash of terror whenever I see a spy pull out his gun. Be on the receiving end of being shot enough, you know it does way more damage than you'd think.
sus
6:38 Wolfenstein reference...
anyways really well made video from you as always lol
The amount of spies I killed with my enforcer are still way too high. I love every single spy that gets confused in chat when I still deal full damage when they tried to dead ringer on me.
once I went to an anime convention dressed up as the Blu spy. I made everything myself- stock watch, stock knife, a dead ringer (in case the watch wasn't able to be finished in time) and a gun. The guards at the convention didn't allow the gun to be brought into the convention, despite it not posing any threat whatsoever. Maube they feared the gun's power??
You probably made it too realistic
A way I've described the l'etranger and had it been described to me is as follows: "It's still a revolver"
32 damage is still 32 damage and is nothing to scoff at, it's still great burst damage. It may be less, but you're still chunking a quarter of a light class's health and they're really not going to appreciate that.
l'etranger? i think you mean fidvsjfusndoshtjajdjxivjsksofjrjsjfjfjebrjgjd
"LETRANGER IS A GUN"
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It'a funny because the Liberty Launcher gets shit on for being weaker than stock, even with an extra rocket.
@@darreltembak4043 I think thats mostly due to the fact that the rocket launcher is already a very inconsistent weapon, and the liberty launcher, unlike the l'etranger, doesn't have any kind of primary passive benefit you would be using it for.
L'etranger gets away with lower damage because dealing damage was never it's selling point. The cloak is, I think most people can agree it's better to at least HAVE that option to defend yourself.
The Liberty Launcher's whole point is being soldier's primary damage source, but it actively punishes you for using it as intended and barely gives you an upside to compensate.
11:58 "crits can also one shot light classes" *proceeds to kill two soldiers (aka not a light class)*
12:49 also note that it doesn't pierce the resistance Saxton Hale gets while charging up a charge attack. This fact is extremely disappointing and has ruined my life-long dream of being a VSH gunspy main.
3:10 Solemn Vow : but what about me?
Jontohil2 : Shut up
Spy doesn't have a gun 16:17
Someone beat you to it
@@Jontohil2i know i had to compleat the payment and everything xD
True
ARE YOU SURE SIR? He has a gun!
@@Jontohil2 too bad, the hoovy and stickies are the same color
Hey, have you ever thought that the Spy is the class that benefits most from the color of the team he's on? Blue makes him stand out, but the red team's suit is closer to brown, which is the predominant color on most maps.
Hearing more about the Enforcer's stats entices me on wanting to use it. I can imagine the situations where "resistances" become useless during or fleeing a fight.
Enforcer also ignores damage vulnerabilities, like Pain Train.
I love how valve just turned enforcer from a close-range gunspy gun to gun that supposed for sniping, and amby from a sniping gun to a close-range gun. The thing is wrong with amby nerf was the fact that it was dropped in the same update when sniper takes his bow, like, you know, "sniper is not supposed to be a close/mid-range fighter", and they nerfed the huntsman in the same upd... Oh, wait!
@@NibelungenwarmongersSame for jarate bushwacka, Sniper is "weak at close range". So of course they had to balance Spy so he’s weak at long and medium range using this (the falloff starts way too close)
@@Cubicwar not If you nerf the quickscopes or kuntsman it would be as bad as amby nerf. It was added as an alternative playstyles, just bring back old amby/enforcer and don't nerf the sniper. Gunspy/amby spyper was legit and balanced playstyles same with huntsman today.
@@Cubicwarthe diamondback exists and has no dmg fall off
@@ibymalik4139 I was refering to the ambassador, since that was their excuse for nerfing it
The rogue like part is sooo good, i died laughing. Loved the whole thing of course, your editing is out of this world. Keep up the nice work!
Diamondback and Frontier Justice are literally the only weapons that benefit by either doing your job (DB) or not doing your job (FJ, maintaining Sentry)
The diamondback is something else
I see a spy in a corner, assuming he's harmless and i can out dps their facestabbing
"Oh, hes got crits"
Its more like alter-Kritzkrieg Spy.
An interesting device. Can't believe you modded it in for Spy so well
Joins server, runs toward enemy team, stock revolver, and no disguise.
Kills 8 health soldier. Dies.
Refuses to elaborate.
Probably free to play if only because they refused to elaborate
Something I like to do as Spy is to use the disguise kit to blend with my own team. It can be really useful for team fights since you can pretend to be a class people will prioritize less and expose their back to in favor of targeting someone else. It can also trip people up with the Enforcer as you can chase the enemy while pretending to hold a melee while getting the bonus damage.
Thanks for pointing out the use of the enforcer to annoy engineers. It's so much fun when im playing spy and I hate it when im playing engineer
i laughed my ass off with the first 2 minutes thinking bro was simply explaining to all of us how the gun works like we had no idea LMAO (btw nice Martin crossover lol)
Finally, the moment we've all been waiting for.
4:10 HA, you don’t have self-defense enshrined in your constitution!
10:57 I’d be staring at this the entire match
For me personally, I am not shy to use the gun because I came from other shooters but enjoy playing spy. I use the gun at every opportunity where I don’t backstab. Snipe low hp people? Here you go. Fight the entire team with amby? Here you go ez.
Spy’s gun is one of the most consistent guns in the game imo
8:39 “It’s the only thing that can refill the cloak of the Dead Ringer”
Not the full truth. The Big Earner does this as well. I do think these 3 all work so well together BTW. Love this combo.
"It's time to eat ass and go fast!" -soundsmith
When he mentioned the Cursed tier of Gun, a fire siren went off near me. I only noticed it wasn't editing into the video when it kept playing after he switched sections
The Enforcer I would say is one of Spy's best guns when ambushing people as it punishes the medic or anyone noticing they are being picked off.
Honestly the Ambassador and even Stock probably do it better
@@chordalharmony I mainly use it when 1. The engineer is wrangling or 2. Vaccinator medics. I have a strange version just saying " You made me use this "
It's incredible how fast you've improved on editing. You're really talented with it and I hope to see it even better than now.
14:07
Innocence mangled, I see you're a man of culture as well.
14:34 20 september 2023, The Diamond Back Incindent
Spy's gun has always been far scarier than his knife, if I get killed by a backstab then I made a mistake.
But if I get killed by Spy's Revolver, I know that there was nothing that I could do.
I was personally selected for penetration by munitional purpose.
12:35 we need to find a good counter to the Shiny German, he keeps coming back
Airblast
@@dustsans3476 but we are spy
Jonto + Martincitopants, two of the best humours together
**I N H A L E**
yej
5:47 if run don’t work:
U r done
9:17 ultrakill referenced
Among the best songs and the worst levels in the game. I hate that level.
YOU TAKLIN SMACK ABOUT ONNA MA FAVOURITE LEVELS?!
nah you tripping ship of fools is fun@@woahmamaawoogahonkahonka
@@Jontohil2 amazing level until I spend like two hours trying to not touch water. The hallway with water on the floor and a Cerberus in the middle is easily the single worst section in the game for me purely because I had to reset there 6 or 7 times
@@woahmamaawoogahonkahonka you know you can just..... Use the button named checkpoint right? In the setting right below the restart button?
DAMN this whole video has a level of quality I’d expect from the How it feels to play series! GOOD JOB JON! *BRAVO*
16:22 He's not gonna die from the same team stickies
i feel like the enforcer would be a very great weapon for forcing players to space out their shots with that 20% firing speed reduction
considering these 2 some of my favourites, that was a massive treat
also what is even worse is the hoovy is a FREE TO PLAY, MY BELOVED CHILDREN
This man made a joke into an actual video, what a legend.
10:17 i wouldnt say they really went overkill. thats a fairly long distance, a distance you'd be better off just leaving to your friendly sniper. this gun isnt a mini sniper rifle, you dont sit in a corner and do 54 - 102 damage every time you click somebody's head
I like how you made a refrence to demoknight when you mention vacinator medics being vulnerable to melee damage
Clicked for the interesting thumbnail and title, stayed for the professional-grade quality pacing and editing. Great work as always!
Detonate the Stickies.
Do it.
We both know they are teamcolored so he won't take any damage.
Also there is like a 35% chance that Hoovie is actually a Spy with his Dead Ringer out, waiting for someone to attack so he can enact righteous judgement uppon them.
Dude your vids are incredible and if you couldn’t tell i appreciate them already im just poking the algorithm:
The editing, animation, cool spymovie graphics and humor is what i live for
-(naturally) crazy tf2 fan
buff to amasador:
no longer has crit falloff
mini-crits on headshot at long range
Bro actually teaches us every way to use revolvers effectively and I respect that effort
Diamondback also shines in mvm, the only tool that helps spy to deal damage against tanks without relying on canteens or upgrades much. When they gonna nerf it I hope they'll keep it for mvm at least or buff enforcer against tanks why not lmao
7:12 trust me i speak spanish as a first language and i can’t pronounce that
Spy’s revolver is just as fun to use a knife. I don’t know why more people don’t use it, the sound design is amazing and satisfying.
I love the fact that pyro is playing the funest game of all time(deep rock galactic) in middle of a tf2 game
2:04 I'm pretty sure critical hits only remove damage falloff, not ramp-up. Therefore, revolver crits would do a maximum of 180 at point blank and 120 at long range.
EDIT: This is wrong; only mini-crits work this way.
Wow... I'm absolutely astonished by how much you've improved since I first came across your channel! This is spectacular!
Your threat to blow up the Red Hoovy doesn't scare me, Jonto. Those are red stickybombs. The Hoovy was safe all along.
So, just as your threat has no teeth...
*_SPY HAS NO GUN_*
You have no clue how much I thought I was having a stroke when Martin showed up. I'm talking quintuple takes, pinching myself, everything. Nice cameo.
16:28 its okay guys the hoovy and the stickys are both red they wont hurt him.
For those of you that are here from martencitos post, he appears initially at 3:22
The Enforcer also has 100% critical hits vs John Lennon, a rarely used, but valuable asset.
The editing is perfect in this, but can I shine some light on the IMPECCABLE music choices?
Finally, now Spy truly has a gun
The le'tranger stands for the stranger in French i Google translated it 7:25
One thing to note about the interaction between the wrangler shield and the enforcer is that while the shield is up, the engineer also gets a 66% repair penalty on the sentry, so it's really easy to outdamage the engineer at any range, since buildings aren't affected by damage falloff.
A single enforcer clip can take down a wrangled sentry
15:04 the diamondback to me is like engie’s frontier justice except for backstabs and saps instead of sentry kills
I don't even play spy but I watch these videos religiously just cause of how well made they are ^_^
Same here. Jonto's style has even inspired me to start planning a series of Warface tutorials.
Guys I have a question. Does the spy from tf2 have something other than the knife, invis-watch, sapper, and disguise kit?
14:32 the editing here is so hilarious I came back just to watch this part again.
The amount of times Jonto had to clearly resist to use a gunshot transition in this video is enough for me to have a seizure over the lack of funny flashing lights
In the case of ambassador, it can(probably) also be used as a ranged backstab at home, due to the fact that you can see the enemies's health(so you can find those under, like, 100 hp), oneshot them before anyone notices you and dip to kill another day. However, the damage penalty hinders such use
However, that is just how my logic logics, i don't even play tf2(i have a case of shitty internet disorder)
Ah yes, the cloak and Gun spy, a rare specimen akin to a more deadly spycrab. Oft compared to a mysterious stranger, these gun spies are hilarious.
8:05i have that...help I never been able to mange cloak, I stright up can't play stock cuz...well I suck even tho spy is my most played class I only started playing spy when I got c&d and never changed since
I put "spy has a gun" as a description on my strange killstreak ambassador as a tribute to you*
*before this vid
keep up the good work!
Having my friend play Thousand Year Door for the first time ever, and being used to hearing random Sonic music in the background of videos, hearing the X-Naut moon base theme when this video started was a SHOCK
I don't even play TF2, i just find these videos very entertaining and well made.
You should, and yes you won't be good at first but that's to be expected. It's free, give it a try.
I’m really glad you made a video about the knife, I think it’s really underrated. I really wish valve would add a long range primary for him though, it’s really frustrating to fight someone who’s outside of melee range, something like a gun would fix this so here’s hoping next summer update we get that
Also jonto you idiot you spelt practice at 2:31
Back during the spy vs. sniper update, I was the only person I knew with a hat. I randomly landed the Fancy Fedora, and I decided that meant I HAD to play spy. The community server I played on called me "The Pimp Spy" because I played Spy about half the time(other half medic because medic was my real main), always had the fedora, did most of my fighting with the ambassador, and basically never disguised. Despite this outlandish strategy, my performance was actually pretty good. I would tend to do ACTUAL spy stuff only when I sniffed out that a big push was in the works, sapping sentries as teammates moved in or backstabbing medics seconds before they popped their uber (or in a few sad cases I click before the uber and the knife impacts after the uber. That's how close I cut it sometimes). My K:D tended to actually be positive just because nobody expects spy to stand back, shoot you with their gun, whip out the dead ringer when you shoot a rocket at them, decloak immediately, and resume shooting. Obviously I got a reputation for doing this amongst the server's regulars, and as the only spy on the server with a hat I was easy to identify, but they still couldn't always break the habit of treating me like they would treat any other spy who's only looking to get sick backstabs.
My good Gunspy friend, we love gunspy
i named my revolver "SPY HAS A GUN" just because of this series
The Enforcer also had the potential to go “no u” to any low-health enemy who discovers you’re disguised.
4:20 I actually thought Mart edited that part. You got way better at editing, keep at it.
I'm a new player and a spy main with 20 hours on spy and 92 hours on tf2 and I swear the moment you said it's hitscan i started hitting almost all of my shots and now even one of my 4 load out slots is specially reserved for gunspy to remind me to use my gun and not slam my head against a wall while I play spy like an ofbrand demoknight 🗿
It kinda sucks knowing that the Diamondback has become the new cursed gun in the community because the Ambassador got nerfed hard. I like the Diamondback, more for its futuristic design that is an obvious give away that it’s from Deus Ex machina, but if using it really is that bad, then at least the Enforcer exists. (I also always had a feeling the the Enforcer was under appreciated especially nowadays when nearly every medic uses the Vaccinator because they don’t like people having fun.)