What is "Floral Shoppe 2"?
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- Is Floral Shoppe 2 a masterpiece, or utter garbage? Let's take a look at one of the most highly debated & controversial albums in Vaporwave.
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Floral Shoppe 2, has Vaporwave gone too far? Arguably one of the most interesting pieces in Vaporwave history, a notorious album that has left people split on opposite ends of the spectrum in regards to if it's an incredible piece of music, or, if it just sucks. Lets discuss it :)
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Floral Shoppe 2 is the Trout Mask Replica of vaporwave. It’s weird and people either love it or really hate it.
lol
People like WosX say that the slowed down Diana Ross sample and others that are in the original Floral Shoppe album are "creepy". Honestly, I don't find the original Floral Shoppe creepy. But Floral Shoppe 2?
*E V I L*
This album is like a gameboy color game shark cheat code gone wrong...
It’s not creepy. More distantly unsettling
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El Gringo 2.0 Lol
@@s7robe297 That's basically the definition of creepy lol
Man, you put your heart and soul in this video
only one way to do it!
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Actually I listen to Floral Shoppe 2 very often
(Oh, and DARKPYRAMID is, in truth... HKE)
why?
Listening to it for the first time today but I'll definitely be returning to it
Gotta be honest, I've listened to this album a lot because I think it's an interesting listen. I couldn't care less about the commentary or artistic implications behind it. One of the better creepy and dark vaporwave albums I've heard.
It's interesting seeing that there really isn't one big agreement on if this album is good or bad, everyone really has their own opinion which does, without a doubt, make this thing significant. Look at the comments on here, some people hate the music AND the effort to showcase the aesthetic of the album, while some find it really interesting...
why do i see you everywhere vaporwave related
I didn't know this album existed. I'll give it a shot later, maybe at night because i think vapor hits a lot harder and nice at night, what are your thoughts? When do you prefer to listen vaporwave?
To be honest I never thought about that or ever realized a specific time I ever listen to it! I can definitely atleast say that more eerie stuff like this album is definitely better at night, unless your going for a super ironic experience and playing this on like a beautiful day at the beach lmao
XD i imagined myself doing that. Well, i mostly hear vaporwave at night because there is no noise or work to do at night, you just sit back and deeply relax with some sweet tunes. As the outside world doesn't interfer, you just strongly focus on the music and the feelings it produces on you and it feels real good.
As for this album i heard it last night and it was interesting, i don't think it is that bad because the more times you listen to it you can get a different feeling, that's the distinct trait of vaporwave in my opinion.
I hear classic in the morning,future funk in the afternoon and hypnagogic and late night lo fi/broken transmission at midnight
I think you put much more time into this video than DARKPYRAMID put into Floral Shoppe 2
my friend, that may be very true lmfao
it feels like someone who realized the impact that Floral Shoppe (1) had on the world of modern music, realized how extreme it has become and decides to act upon it, whether it's irony, rage or sadness that fueled the making of the album and the subsequent result to the ears of the listener. It's a very interesting way to do so, most people would try to return to an older, more recognisable style but not Floral Shoppe 2, which almost makes fun of "what has become of vaporwave", "just a bunch of experimentation" with little to no aesthetic and nostalgia that characterized the initial vaporwave, the one we all cherish.
that last quote on what vaporwave is really hit me. man, I could hear you talk forever
Thanks!
I feel like, at some point, I had listened to Floral Shoppe 2, hated it from the get-go, and never returned to it; now, thanks to your vid, I feel like I really have to give it a chance. I mean, it worked with "I'll Try Living Like This" after watching your previous video on it.
Awesome dude, glad to hear these videos are giving artists/albums second tries and more listens
I love floral shoppe 2. I just think it sounds good, I can't put it into words very well. I also thought I'll Try Living Like This was good the first time I heard it though, so maybe my tolerance is a little higher for weird stuff.
I'm with you. I think it sounds interesting and no one should have to justify their tastes beyond that. I like how dark it is.
It's one of my favorite vaporwave albums. It's a scratched and chaotic "thinking" of the state of the genre til that point, one of its "logical conclusions" (much like "Shader" or "Sky Tower 2032" - and "Vaporwave is Dead", of course). The fact that it accomplishes this by being extremely retarded and sarcastic and bad only appeals to me
There is definitely something about it thats mystifying and cryptic, despite what its main intention are or might have been. A very interesting concept overall
Very well said my friend
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Do ▣世界から解放され▣ ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░: Good or Bad
lol I was just thinking of suggesting this
OH I WOULD LOVE IT SO MUCH IF HE DID THAT!!!
Yeah I was pretty disappointed after watching this that he didn't even mention Freed from the World, considering that Floral Shoppe 2 started out as a sequel to said Internet Club album (and that it samples two of its tracks).
HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF FLORAL SHOPPE 2 IM MIND BLOWN
2nd thought: its hella weird my dude
floral shoppe 17
Damn dude - really enjoyed this one. Love your analysis on each album. These are my favourite of your videos! Aside to that, what kind of headphones are you running?
Glad to hear Dustin! and honestly I'm not even sure hahah its some Bose I got on sale at Black Friday like 3 or 4 years ago :P
I remember downloading this years ago thinking it was the sequel to the first one and being so confused by it
Such a fun little odd piece of music, been a while since I last listened to it!
I like Track 13. It sounds like an audible stroke at first, but when you listen to the instruments and sounds hidden deep within all that mess, it actually sounds beautiful 🔊✨
Great channel I’m currently binge watching your documentary videos 😊
Wait, HKE is The darkest future and dark pyramid ?
Cluttered thoughts:
Maybe just call this a "first impression" but after listening to FS2, I would compare it to going through a haunted house and I'd say the same reason most people willing to listen to it, decide to listen to it for the same reason people like to go through a haunted house.
Vaporwave in itself is sort of like playing Atari in the sense that although there is imagery provided to create associations, it requires a lot of imagination on the part of the person digesting the media.
Is FS2 a musical piece? Id say it uses music more as the sticky black handrail on a stuttering down-escalator to give the listener something to hold onto. There are musical elements used as tools, but overall FS2 seems more like an art piece than an album comprised of pieces of music. While there are concept albums or albums that are intentionally designed in an order to flow a certain way, the musicality of those pieces mean that the tracks feel like they can each stand on their own. I don't think this piece is meant to be anything other than a single piece, playing individual parts or listening out of order would be the same thing as only watching clips of a movie or cutting a movie into "DVD chapters" setting them on a random shuffle and then pressing play to see what happens.
To me, this is less music and more a soundtrack to be used as the canvas for an individual's imagination--- yet this idea is not unfamiliar to music, and vaporwave in particular.
So the end result? Idk. I would say technically this is "vaporwave" in concept, but in the simplest purely visceral non-intellectual/philosophical sense... mehhh I wouldn't call it music.
Extremely well written and an excellent read my friend, bravo!
"To me, this is less music and more a soundtrack to be used as the canvas for an individual's imagination--- yet this idea is not unfamiliar to music, and vaporwave in particular. "
Absolutely love that ^^^
Wow, the beginning the video was surprisingly well thought out and existential. Good job!
what's the name of the beautiful ambient song 2:45 - 6:09?? I'm so in love I must have it!
I showed this to my music appreciation lecture this album and he when I said to him I’m not sure if this is music he paused and replied with what makes a sound music that has changed the way I think about the world I’m listening to
The thing that made Floral Shoppe so interesting was not only the warm. nostalgic sounds but how strangely they were put together in such a post-modern fashion. I see this new album as a progression of certain parts of FP the were kind of industrial and cold ( like that one song with the Turok sample ), she wanted to explore something much more dark and cold/sinister. I find the new album to be good but the original Floral Shoppe is so much better to me because of the warm, colorful, frantic palette of genres and sounds ranging from R&B, synth pop, experimental and certain moments that are almost progressive rock or hair-metal-esque. On the other hand I think FP is an unrepeatable album so I think that is why Ramona decided to do something very strange, sinister and cold, so we can expect something fresh and new every time she releases a new album instead of expecting that FP vibe for every album.
Personally I listened to it purely out of morbid curiosity and the love of the aesthetic. Very rarely did I actually enjoy the sound of the “music,” but I was willing to sit through it because it was like the evil twin of Floral Shoppe. It’s forbidden vaporwave, anti-vaporwave, and this sense of esotericism is what made me listen to it (and its relatively short length. No way I could sit through half an hour or more of this). I guess I proved the creator right by listening to rubbish (not insulting the album, but its express purpose is to be rubbish) for the sake of aesthetics.
Thank you Uncle Pad
Anytime homie
Damn. You went there =D
Well ... where do *I* begin with this? =] ... (and yes, I had FS2 playing in the background while writing the bulk of this)
The short story with me and music is that music and I have been together for a long time. During that long time, I have come across moments where I have challenged my ideas about music could be. In so doing, I have learned to appreciate music that others don't. This includes but not limited to Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring, Isao Tomita's take on The Planets, Vangelis's Beaubourg and Invisible Connections, most of Autechre's discography, etc. Hell, I would say my favourite Beatles song is "Revolution 9" (and yes, there are some others too).
Before I continue with my story, I don't seek out the difficult art to make some "better than you" assertion that "I can handle experimental bullshit". I see it as merely hearing possibilities in art. Experimentation in art, to me, is a chance to *try* something. It's in trying something that new things can be created. Hell, vaporwave was the result of an experiment, particularly Daniel Lopatin (as Chuck Person) doing plunderphonics to create a new sound that caught on became a thing. Sometimes, an experiment fails. But other times, it can create something unexpected and intriguing and that can, in turn, become something else. After all, albums like Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band or Pet Sounds or The Dark Side of the Moon wouldn't sound like they did without some of the avant-garde composers from the 1950s/1960s.
I was "late to the party" when it came to vaporwave (late 2017). While I had some tastes of it beforehand - hearing Saint Pepsi's "Enjoy Yourself" as a channel theme; seeing Anthony Fantano's reviews of some releases (Floral Shoppe and Nmesh's Pharma); loving Oneohtrix Point Never's R Plus Seven back in 2013 - it was Wolf's "Vaporwave: A Brief History" that gave me the first grounding in the genre/style and gave me a ton of springboards from which to do my own venturing. (And yes, you Pad also played a role ... this is how I got into dds.wmv). When it came to FS2, I perked up my ears to it as, like I said earlier, I'm intrigued by the experimental music. Usually whenever someone says "This is unlistenable", I take it as a challenge to hear if it's really the case. So, I listened to the full album and ... I really liked it. To my ears, I really enjoyed the anarchic arrangement of sounds and its full-bodied flow. It sounded no different than a lot of Autechre's work (another artist I love for a long time ... and I came into them starting from Confield).
In subsequent listens, as well as listening to other vaporwave releases, I enjoy it more and more. For an album that was reportedly made whilst drunk, it's remarkably cohesive. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact it does employ coherent loops. The "Ebola rap" (to use a Reddit comment) also helps to give it a cohesion. In learning that DARKPYRAMID is most likely one of HKE's aliases (and I believe it was actually confirmed), it shows this was an album with a purpose like a lot of HKE's work. (HKE was also influenced by Warp Records and I can hear this especially in OMNIA.)
To wrap things up, I think FS2's place in vaporwave is that a very good showcase of its relentlessly creative spirit. What attracted me to the style in the first place was the sense that there are no rules (or at least very few rules). It's a free and open style to where you can make it your own. If you want to get down and funky like S U R F I N G or Skyler Spence/Saint Pepsi, you can do that. If you want to get lost in a space a la 식료품groceries or 猫 シ Corp. (specifically Pall Mall), you can do that. If you want to go hard like dds.wmv or wosX, you can do that too. All are welcome. I think the only rule is that it should be you and it should be sincere/honest. As long as artists do that, vaporwave will never be dead ;) =]
P.S. FS2's inspiration was ▣世界から解放され▣ [or "Liberated from the world"] by one of INTERNET CLUB's aliases ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░ (or New Deluxe Life). Compared that to this ... I like FS2 a bit more because I tend to like that "wall of sound" feel whereas INTERNET CLUB tends to go for the lo-fi. That one is growing on me as well. But again, the whole point of experimentation in music is simply to try something new. If it works, it works and it becomes something.
2019 plastic love (I came from 2024 future) got me into Private caller by saint pepsi and into VW/FF
7:39 What song is this? It sounds very soothing! 😍
Hey pad, first of all I just want to say that I am a huge fan of you and vaporwave. When I watched the video I decided to have a listen to what this new floral shoppe 2 is all about. Not going to lie it wasn’t bad, don’t call me crazy but I thought it was soo weird that it was good and I just kinda liked it. But I have a question if this is the darkest Future floral shoppe 2 does that mean we have a normal version of floral shoppe 2 that isn’t really based on very weird vaporwave samples ??
What are your thoughts on the other Floral Shoppe 2, Pad?
The purple one right?
Pad Chennington Yeah.
man all the stuff you do feels like you put a lot of effort in to it and thats great.
Thanks swanky!
Pad Chennington anytime bud
I wish I could find the lyrics of the whole album, It's so mesmerizing!
Great video as always Pad! I personally love the concept behind Floral Shoppe 2, and I also think that it excels at creating a feeling of genuine bleakness and darkness. Truly one of HKE's most revolutionary, and retarded creations.
And thanks as always Jose! It is definitely interesting an interesting piece without a doubt.
What about the actual Floral Shoppe 2 release??
Josh LeRose it was an album of tracks put together by someone else from one of Vektroid's CZcams channels
I remember hearing this album for the first time when I was younger after hearing the original floral shoppe expecting a sequel I realized it wasn't the same artist and was completely thrown off when I listened to it, but I came back to this album like 5 years later and definitely appreciate it's abstractness and the tone and mood it gives, idk I rlly like this album compared to the first time I listened to it
FS2 is basically an industrial album that happens to rely on vaporwave.
It's decent, I did enjoy it, I'm glad someone took the piss out on so many vaporboys, but it's nothing too glamorous, it's just an industrial album.
There, end of the story.
It's maybe too weak for an Industrial album alone, but yeah it does follow it. I'd say there are many things else more intense than this, lol.
Oh, for sure.
hey man i know i'm a little bit late to the party but any chance that you could check out Heat Wave - Fuckin u tonite? i never hear anyone talk about it...pretty underrated imo. anyways thx magical youtube algorithm for recommending me this channel
Man I gotta say your review s are cool, by the way you don't mind reviewing dream sequins by nmesh
Thanks! and I got a ton of stuff on the list to review, I keep adding new ones every day lol but I'll add your recommendation no doubt.
Nice Video man
thank you!
Hey, just thinking about this, it would be pretty cool if you had snapchat and sometimes posted what you are listening to.
Don't got snap :/ but got twitter! check me out there: twitter.com/pad_chennington
I already knew that Floral shoppe 2 was made by the same guy as New deluxe life.
Also, one song on this album has the samples from said album stacked on top of each other, idk what song?
Gave it a listen after this video because honestly I didn't even know there was a Floral Shoppe 2 before viewing this. IMHO it's the place where experimental noise meets vaporwave. In some places it really sounds like something Negativland would have done, speaking of which; you should do a video on Negativland, as they are (in terms of social commentary and nostalgia tainted by cynicism) proto vaporwave in the cerebral sense @Pad Chennington
That candle analogy was perfectly put and made me look at the album in a more symbolic and deeper way. Very
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In your opinion what is the best vaporwave album of all time
Yes! We're Open is my favorite Vaporwave album of all time.
Pad Chennington thank you, I wanna get more into vaporwave and I'm not sure which albums to listen to first
Check out Vapor Memory's "Vapor Essentials" and "Selected Works" videos, I think they're great jumping-off points for anyone looking to get started.
somebody home on "i'll try living like this" is one of the best vapor songs ever IMO
Boredoms were doing all this and more, nearly 30 years ago.
Boredoms 1992 - czcams.com/video/eDzBpQ0GcoU/video.html
Still waiting for FS3
When I was little I was sitting down one day and I said well what happens of everyone makes music and they take all the tunes and all the lyrics to the point where no one can make music anymore 😂
It's the Mask Trout Replica of vaporwave albums
When you listen to Throbbing Gristle and Boyd Rice everything is music.
Thanks alex
Do a video about HKE
I've done a couple :) check out the rest of the videos on my channel!
lol you sound like the number 15 burger king foot lettuce guy
I get that all the time lol
i created a music video for this if anyone wants to see this album visually looks like
Floral Shoppe 2 vinyl when
bruh da midnight blue vinyl...coming 4014
Pad Chennington oh yes
I'm not gonna pretend like I'm cool by saying that I like it cuz I definitely don't. But I like that the album points out how ironic it is that you could literally put anything on an album and even if you try to convince the listener that it isn't good, some listeners will go out of their way to like it
dude youre so fucking good
ayyy thanks !
Yo. Are you Burmese?
My verdict of Floral Shoppe 2, in the words of Jay Sherman...
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There are a lot of redeemable qualities to this album, it's okay. but I dont think it has any real connection to Floral Shoppe, I think it's stupid to call this album Floral Shoppe 2. I mean I could just call my next album Dark Side of the Moon 2 and get a lot of listens but I'm not pink floyd and my album has little to do with dark side of the moon so if I did that I would just be riding the coat tails of better musicians for the sake of exposure which is exactly what dark pyramid did with this release.
But where is Despacito 2?
review soon?
It's like being dragged out of a Mitsubishi
In the middle of a riot and thrown into a white unmarked van
Let's just call a spade a spade. It doesnt hold a hat to the OG FSMP
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I feel like the album was a bit of like... a rejection of any sort of "fame" she got from the original album, and just went to try and make the weirdest, quickest nonsense BS waste of 20 minutes. But I like how you try to give it a slight pass at the end with a "i didn't hear this the first time", hah.
I find this album too cynical to enjoy personally. Liberated from the World is a fairly standard Broken Transmission album by today’s standards, and to have such a strong negative reaction to it that you make an entire album to mock it, feels a little overly negative
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I don‘t like it. It‘s creepy. I’m having Nightmares. Help
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Music is literally sound with meaning,
that's just it, and the meaning doesn't have to be inherent or obvious,
you just have to think it's meaningful (also music sans meaning works as well, as long as that's what is intended)
plot twist the album never existed it was all a dream it was all a dream you are dreaming pad is not your real name this entire channel is a figment of your imagination wake up wake up wake up
It was all a dream i use to read word up magezines
I hated Floral Shoppe 2
It's shit but I kinda don't hate so much
Floral shoppe 2 is *AWFUL*. I fucking hate it. It was made to see if people would like it based on the aesthetic alone, hke tried to make it bad.
Hot take: this is an EP. The run time is 19.55 so it's an EP, not an album
ep is based on number of tracks not length
this release has more than 6 tracks so its an album
Post vaporwave
You know he made this album to shit all over internet clubs' liberated from the earth album
Weird. vaporwave is politcal and slightly marxist. Kinda kills the buzz don't it.
vapolitics
I Guess.
I never bought into the Marxist tendency. Hell, it undercuts all of it.
I used to think Marxism was good. And the reason for that was. i didn't wanna be a racist anymore. So i thought communist beliefs would fix it. but at least it opened my eyes enough to too fix all that.
Its critical of neoliberal capitalism but not necessarilly marxist. Vaporwave doesnot highlight class distinctions. I prefer an Absurdist intepretation.