Has Vaporwave Gone Too Far?

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  • čas přidán 27. 05. 2018
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    The most bizarre, experimental, and all-out chaotic Vaporwave album known as "▣世界から解放され▣ by ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░... Has Vaporwave truly gone too far?
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Komentáře • 806

  • @virginboy3d78
    @virginboy3d78 Před 6 lety +1072

    I feel as if vaporwave continues to die and be reborn.

    • @Ya_Boi_Shaggy
      @Ya_Boi_Shaggy Před 6 lety +69

      Maybe I’m looking too far into it but I think it’s because vaporwave eventually loses that nostalgic feeling and people get bored of it, but in an ironic sense we start to miss that nostalgic feeling.

    • @virginboy3d78
      @virginboy3d78 Před 6 lety +19

      flying underpants
      I feel exactly the same way damn

    • @TUPPERWAVE
      @TUPPERWAVE Před 6 lety +2

      You are so right!

    • @jacobmiller5990
      @jacobmiller5990 Před 6 lety +7

      I agree also it’s interesting, I’ve been through one personal cycle per say, I loved it maybe last autumn time, then started to move to lo-if jazz and hip hop for my new spike of dopamine to chill too. I recently over the past month or two regained my interest in vaporwave but have also branched into future funk while still enjoying lofi, it’s my perfect mix. The community’s are similar also, I mentioned it in another comment thread on this video but all of these genres have chill, supportive and accepting to all community.
      It’s great.

    • @zucchini3D
      @zucchini3D Před 6 lety +5

      the fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth

  • @SeasideBliss
    @SeasideBliss Před 6 lety +356

    URAP URAP URAP URAP URAP URAP URAP

    • @Eden_GT
      @Eden_GT Před 6 lety +15

      URAP

    • @something6510
      @something6510 Před 6 lety +3

      Mr. Ocean that's exactly what I thought of lol

    • @_kaikou_
      @_kaikou_ Před 5 lety +7

      rulo rulo rulo rulo rulo

    • @NFKTN
      @NFKTN Před 5 lety +5

      URAP

    • @mv8qh
      @mv8qh Před 4 lety +7

      BOR BOR BOR BOR BOR BOR BOR

  • @VideoGameAnimationStudy
    @VideoGameAnimationStudy Před 6 lety +343

    There's nothing more controversial or rich in discussion than _whether_ something's art or not.
    Vaporwave is just....man, it's got so much to it, both seriously and ironically.

  • @VeeeeeryDisturbing
    @VeeeeeryDisturbing Před 5 lety +120

    No, it hasn’t gone far enough.

  • @yourdadsbbqbrisket8526
    @yourdadsbbqbrisket8526 Před 6 lety +533

    i say vaporwave should go FARTHER

  • @Hemaglox
    @Hemaglox Před 6 lety +54

    urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap urap URRRAP URRRRAP URRRRAP URRRAP URRRRAP

  • @AaronGaleProductions
    @AaronGaleProductions Před 6 lety +180

    I love how weird this genre is, it only makes me want to explore further.

  • @RigbyIsTheMan
    @RigbyIsTheMan Před 6 lety +101

    I hope vapor-wave never dies

    • @dylanc6276
      @dylanc6276 Před 6 lety +10

      P o o p e r S c o o p e r ' 9 9 Death is rebirth. I hope it dies many times only to be risen from the ashes.

    • @RigbyIsTheMan
      @RigbyIsTheMan Před 6 lety +2

      Dylan C you're right, there can always be many sub generes of Vaporwave and new ones can be created

    • @dylanc6276
      @dylanc6276 Před 6 lety +4

      P o o p e r S c o o p e r ' 9 9 That's why I love it so much. It's constantly being reinvented. If only we could get rid of the vaporwave police who love to say "that's not real vaporwave" as if that means anything.

    • @RigbyIsTheMan
      @RigbyIsTheMan Před 6 lety +1

      Dylan C yeah, I'm so glad I discovered it 2 years ago and I feel like it impacted my life as well

    • @duodot
      @duodot Před 6 lety +1

      What is dead may never die

  • @PC10.8
    @PC10.8 Před 5 lety +27

    Slowed and chopped versions of 80s and 90s songs that not all too many people listen to: Vaporwave
    Video of Bart Simpson with a VHS effect while slowed down XXTENTACION Plays: Not vaporwave, but normies think it is.

  • @Patricia_Taxxon
    @Patricia_Taxxon Před 6 lety +354

    That's my favorite vaporwave album, it feels very sincere and exhibits far more restraint than people give it credit for. I don't think its very "ironic" as you say, it just uses unpredictability to give a sense of unease combined with the normal vaporwave nostalgia.

    • @duodot
      @duodot Před 6 lety +21

      Is it honestly you favorite? If so that's interesting. It may not be made ironically, but the bandcamp page exhibits nothing else than a careless and ironic vibe to me. I will agree it shows more restraint than it's credited for, it could easily be even more absurd and surreal, but I get no nostalgic or other tangible feelings at all, just poignant disappointment.

    • @TheVoiceOfChaos
      @TheVoiceOfChaos Před 6 lety +8

      i kinda like it too. im kinda sad that it was over in just 19 minuits. wonder if i brought it i would get more.

    • @GangiFilms
      @GangiFilms Před 6 lety +19

      copy and pasting the same sample is sincere? more like sadistic.

    • @MajoroTom
      @MajoroTom Před 6 lety +14

      "Sincere"? in what way... how? this was probably made in an hour in audacity. just because something sounds "sincere" doesn't instantly make it good. it should have atleast some form of effort or anything that gives it objective worth to go along with it.

    • @Patricia_Taxxon
      @Patricia_Taxxon Před 6 lety +39

      objectivity is a sham

  • @HunterLyonIsAPerson
    @HunterLyonIsAPerson Před 5 lety +26

    This just sounds like 90's DIgital Hardcore without the excessive breaks.

  • @MagickFlavour
    @MagickFlavour Před 6 lety +193

    As someone who loves sound collages (Revolution 9 by the Beatles, Montage of Heck by Kurt Cobain, etc.) I love the concept of Floral Shoppe 2 and Liberated. Vapor-collage is a subgenre I wanna see more tbh.

    • @primevalcelestialcarcass3998
      @primevalcelestialcarcass3998 Před 6 lety +5

      Floral Shoppe was the peak of artsy sample-based vaporwave. It wasn't unique (John Oswald was doing stuff exactly like this in the late 80s-early 90s) But it still sounds unique and entertaining.

    • @cooliofoolio
      @cooliofoolio Před 6 lety

      I think Montage of Heck is the only sound collage type thing I could ever listen to, I really only bought it for the demos though.

    • @MagickFlavour
      @MagickFlavour Před 6 lety

      UNKNOWNGAM3r that album isn’t the actual Montage of Heck. (It’s named after it. Here’s the actual Montage of Heck: czcams.com/video/3cwotPLa_Jk/video.html )

    • @cooliofoolio
      @cooliofoolio Před 6 lety

      Uncle Squiddz
      Oh yeah, that one. I have a bootleg of that. It's only the first half of the tape, the other half also has demos on it.

    • @MagickFlavour
      @MagickFlavour Před 6 lety

      UNKNOWNGAM3r nice

  • @dojokonojo
    @dojokonojo Před 6 lety +107

    So Vaporwave has entered the realm of Modern Classical music? Those have become so experimental and obscure, some people question if it is just noise. One performance I had the privilege of attending was just a guy rubbing 15 different cowbells with rubber for 20 minutes. It was loud chaos. Another was sextet where everyone played random notes at random time signatures.

    • @shannonm.townsend1232
      @shannonm.townsend1232 Před 5 lety +6

      I don't know if most vapour wave is composed, per se, in same way Avant Garde classical composers write music. I'm only well-informed about LP's released in the 1950's-70's(Stockhausen, Xenakis, P. Henry, J. Cage, Luc Ferrari, E. Varese, Ligeti, etc.); many of them are more bugged out than anything I could envisage in the vapour genres.
      There is to me an overlap of Aesthetics between them, imo.

    • @KnjazNazrath
      @KnjazNazrath Před 5 lety +1

      @@shannonm.townsend1232 Ligeti is possibly my fave composer. You know there's a version of his opera "The Grand Macabre" on youtube? It's in my top 5 operas, and it's definitely the funniest I've ever seen,

    • @myguitardidyermom212
      @myguitardidyermom212 Před 4 lety +2

      contemporary classical music is more than just post-tonal, performance art and avant garde stuff Minimalism has some amazing melodic work (check out Glassworks by Phillip Glass or In C by Terry Riley) and continues to influence film scores. guys like John Luther Adams are creating gorgeous soundscapes (check out Become Ocean). David Bruce (who has a YT channel) makes amazing, listenable music firmly in the tonal world (check out Gumboots). Hate this "LOLDAE CLASSIKUL MUSIK IS STUCKHOZEN" myth that goes around in some circles,

  • @Calvin_Coolage
    @Calvin_Coolage Před 6 lety +51

    Anyone else just come here because they recognized a screenshot from Mobile Suit Gundam?

    • @desertdezz127
      @desertdezz127 Před 6 lety +3

      Calvin_Coolage yeah 😂😂

    • @ThexDynastxQueen
      @ThexDynastxQueen Před 6 lety +4

      Yes, saw Amuro and clicked. Recognizing images and wanting to find the original music of samples used is the only reason I have a passing interest in Vaporware.

    • @noxiousnastycxciii6166
      @noxiousnastycxciii6166 Před 6 lety +1

      That's why I'm here too

    • @Matheus-ki9zo
      @Matheus-ki9zo Před 5 lety +1

      I thought it was Speed Racer.

  • @tcetvel8648
    @tcetvel8648 Před 6 lety +56

    no.........
    Maybe?

  • @pandable8657
    @pandable8657 Před 6 lety +136

    with all due respect, is this really that harsh, noisy, or weird, though? we've been doing even weirder shit since the 70s and 80s - throbbing gristle in the 70s and early 80s, coil at some of their weird moments - and then the entire power electronics and harsh noise scene that sprung up afterwards? that's all music, even if people think fans are "pretentious" - they aren't; not necessarily. For example, I like feedback. by itself. its ecstatic. I have no pretensions about it, I just /like it./
    This sort of vaporwave - broken transmission type stuff - isn't really new or that avantgarde in comparison to what I just suggested, but it's good. it's wonderful.
    Everything has the potential to be music if we experience it that way. nothing is "just noise." You cannot go too far.
    (that said, I think Infinity Frequencies does this sound better

    • @milagroman75
      @milagroman75 Před 6 lety +4

      Pandable “coil at their weird moments” hahahah I didn’t know those two ever had normal moments

    • @pandable8657
      @pandable8657 Před 6 lety +2

      Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah lol
      I guess I meant "horse rotorvator" as normal and "gold is the metal" as weird :p

    • @pandable8657
      @pandable8657 Před 6 lety +1

      I said gold is the metal but I meant constant shallowness leads to evil. i'm tired

    • @gonzoengineering4894
      @gonzoengineering4894 Před 6 lety +4

      It goes back farther than that. The tape music of the 40s is something of a spiritual ancestor, and that stuff makes this album sound like top 40 radio

    • @pandable8657
      @pandable8657 Před 6 lety +6

      musique concrete? I love what i've heard but it hasn't been a lot

  • @cananybodyfindmeause
    @cananybodyfindmeause Před 6 lety +30

    vaporware is a middle figure to musical theory, and that's why we love it.

  • @josiahcruz9678
    @josiahcruz9678 Před 6 lety +17

    This is only the beginning

  • @ebonyatropus7367
    @ebonyatropus7367 Před 3 lety +21

    I'd probably just call it "industrial" or "experimental" instead of "vaporwave" at this point.
    A lot of the more extreme artists of the genre have a lot more similarity to artists like Throbbing Gristle, Nurse With Wound, or The Caretaker.

  • @VANITAS555
    @VANITAS555 Před 6 lety +15

    I actually do enjoy this album sometimes, especially when i go to sleep. I put the album on low volume and than it becomes pretty relaxing. The sub genre for this is Broken transmission and there are some more albums associated with this sound

  • @seki108
    @seki108 Před 6 lety +16

    Came for Amuro on the cover. Stayed for commentary. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but that might have been Amuro's berserk scene.....not sure now.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Před 6 lety

      seki108 Same. I can't remember where precisely that screen comes from.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Před 6 lety +3

      No, wait, I think it might actually be from when Lalah dies and Amuro sees her Newtype ghost. The reflections in his eyes look kinda like her floating away.

  • @napoleonblownapart9043
    @napoleonblownapart9043 Před 6 lety +23

    THIS ALBUM NEEDS A VINYL RELEASE

    • @duodot
      @duodot Před 6 lety +10

      How would you know if the record is stuck and when it's playing normally?

    • @napoleonblownapart9043
      @napoleonblownapart9043 Před 6 lety +13

      duodot That's half the fun

    • @cooliofoolio
      @cooliofoolio Před 6 lety

      The record should not be stuck unless you are handling your records wrong.

    • @yourdadsbbqbrisket8526
      @yourdadsbbqbrisket8526 Před 6 lety

      goes great with a pulse demon vinyl!

  • @ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit

    Is that a vaporwave cover with Amuro From Gundam on the album or did he just use that as a thumbnail?

    • @lukec1471
      @lukec1471 Před 4 lety +4

      I’m 2 years late but yeah that’s the album cover.. and he talks about it in the video

  • @deftrascal1626
    @deftrascal1626 Před rokem +3

    when i listen to the internet club record i imagine aliens landed on earth decades after a terrible conflict that effectively killed all life and destroyed much of the evidence of our life and culture. the alien scientists, piecing together what they can of our instruments and any other evidence they can find, create an album meant to emulate the kind of music that humans listened and danced to when they were still around

  • @Alanthewhite
    @Alanthewhite Před 6 lety +8

    I unironically love this album, its my favorite Vaporwave album.

  • @harveybeaver9731
    @harveybeaver9731 Před 5 lety +5

    This discussion reminds me of an unusual album called :Most Unwanted Music." It was composed in 1997 based on a survey stating the repsondant's favorite and least favorite types of music.
    I listened to it about a dozen times; it is so crazy and chaotic it may as well be a spiritual predecessor to the vaporwave genre.

    • @rireki_riri
      @rireki_riri Před 4 lety +1

      Sounds interesting. gotta check it out.

  • @Be_Nice1200
    @Be_Nice1200 Před 6 lety +9

    Who would win?
    An entire underground genre loved and supported by millions?
    Or
    Exactly one vaporwave artist boi?

  • @GiovanniCloud
    @GiovanniCloud Před 6 lety +16

    Has vaporwave gone too far?
    No. It can go farther.

  • @TheDestroyerComics
    @TheDestroyerComics Před 4 lety

    this is one of my favorite videos of yours.

  • @dubduboverlord5095
    @dubduboverlord5095 Před 6 lety +1

    I don’t even know if I’d categorize it as vapor but gorsh it’s exciting. Love the new thumbnails by the way!

  • @hern19
    @hern19 Před 6 lety +2

    Interesting video ! Love it !

  • @thecuriousone6878
    @thecuriousone6878 Před 6 lety +50

    Alright, so we're discussing an album birthed and made for the idea of not only deconstruction, but destruction of a genre. It's like an active sabotage of what vaporwave is meant to be, trying to throw noise around for anyone trying to find any sight of meaning. It's something I've seen in my times of playing video games or reading books to know that artists love to mess with their audience. The creator of this album though, feels like he has to put anything that comes to mind is there. From utter nonsense noise to a sad, droning effect, it's meant to be a Rorschach Test to anyone in vaporwave. It's whatever you feel the music is, and it's a test of the phenomenology. It's predatory even. It WANTS you to, DARES you to come up with reasons to why this even would begin to make sense. It's Finnegan's Wake in audio form. Whereas vaporwave is processed and created nostalgia, Released from the World is about destroying any conception of finding that connection.
    As for where to go with what to do for vaporwave, there will be limits to be sure. It'll loop back around to where classic is the lost art, and whatever the future is will be it. We will be in a time like what there was before blues or jazz. Something that seems so utterly futuristic or complex to us that we just can't understand it. Smashed samples as well as a blitz of noise until you somehow force yourself to find a pattern in the insanity. it's like listening to some sort of auditory Old God that breaks your very soul just listening to it. It's a true test of musical desire or willingness to find meaning even in the most meaningless things. Just as vaporwave started out as finding meaning in the endless wash of cheaply-produced music.

    • @duodot
      @duodot Před 6 lety

      Well said. The entire subculture of music that aims to ridicule, memeify and destroy the genre is just a part of it that makes it what it is, but I ignore it and I don't see the appeal.

    • @traz2860
      @traz2860 Před 5 lety

      Man, I love the comments under this video. The comparison to Joyce's Finnegan's Wake is very accurate; I fully agree with your text for these reasons, even after Joyce made this, there are still new books playing with the limits of literature, and as I said under another comment, it's not only about making pure gibberish (in literature or music), it's always related to meaning; a conceptual one of course. It seems that we are leading to a more formal vaporwave, where the richness is in the deconstruction of how the album presents itself. Released from the World (as you said) has a message, pushing us to think about the genre as a whole, even though the result might sound like pure non-sensical noise. I can't wait to see the future in this specific part of this genre, my friend.

  • @DJRX78
    @DJRX78 Před 6 lety +9

    1:02 Using Amuro Ray as the cover art for that album may be one of the most fitting things considering how the narrative of Mobile Suit Gundam follows a 14 year old boy thrown into war to pilot a giant war robot that his father build. Not to mention all of the themes in that series that have to do with mental manipulation and human experimentation, which continues into Zeta Gundam. A particular character, Four Murasame, was an artificial newtype that suffered from migraines for the majority we saw her on screen in Zeta Gundam. I now know the anguish she must of felt because even listening to a smidgen of that album made me feel like I would need to drown in a bottle of excedrin. I have a friend who puts out music under the title of Vomitronic, and I have to say that ░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░ has easily gone to another level of indescribable structure or lack there of. It's not to say it's a heaping pile of absolute garbage, because music is ultimately subjective (except country music, which should be removed from Earth).
    I don't think most people are ready for the Cyber-Newtype music.
    Though some may be...

    • @RayOfTruth
      @RayOfTruth Před 2 lety

      This album is no Zaku boy, NO ZAKU!

  • @imanukekaboom3715
    @imanukekaboom3715 Před 6 lety +2

    First song in that album just goes “brra” over and over again with some pitch changes

  • @joseusainternet
    @joseusainternet Před 6 lety

    this might just be the vaporwave channel i didn't know i needed, thank you

  • @jordancollins896
    @jordancollins896 Před 6 lety

    New to the channel and new to the vapor wave scene but I'm glad came across this video 👍

  • @iBullyDemons
    @iBullyDemons Před 6 lety +4

    I love vaporwave and love your channel

  • @fynnborchers6306
    @fynnborchers6306 Před 6 lety

    Pad, you are doing gods work over here. You have no idea how happy I am that you adressed this album and the irony behind it !

  • @christianrowe8934
    @christianrowe8934 Před 6 lety +1

    This music genre both ironically and unironically helped me through some hard times. I look forward to seeing how far it can go. Visuals are so influential on how someone experiences music. I find myself endlessly searching for the "next".

  • @Xtasis96
    @Xtasis96 Před 6 lety +18

    next up: hard vapor

  • @TheMrCrown
    @TheMrCrown Před 5 lety +1

    This was the video you almost...almost understood Vaporwave. Good job, Pad!

  • @CoryMck
    @CoryMck Před 6 lety +6

    Great video, I watched this video in the morning, listened to the album, and now I'm hooked. TBH, it isn't as Avant Garde as I thought it would be, it has a hypnagogic dreamy feel to it, much like Eccojams Vol. 1. I thought the album was going to be weirder going in, but I left with a calm head bob. This is something you have to be in the mood for. I can't listen to this unless it's later in the day, I'm resting alone, and it's room temperature. If it's too hot, cold, or early I would probably find something else.
    I think you scared me into thinking this was gonna be some industrial non-sense, but really, I've heard weirder. Thanks for the introduction though.

  • @Nick-yi4tr
    @Nick-yi4tr Před 6 lety +9

    SOMEONE HASNT LISTENED TO VAPORNOISE

  • @matteogori9050
    @matteogori9050 Před 6 lety +13

    Hey Pad, great video so far! I've found out about the album in "top 50 vaporwave albums" which lists it as the third best after Vaporwave is Dead and Vaporwave Is Dead Again. I definitely didn't like it (just as the other two) but i found it quite interesting as a musical critique and "thinkpiece" i guess, idk if the dude was ironic or he genuinely liked it. It's too abrasive for me i think. Cheers my dude!

    • @tcetvel8648
      @tcetvel8648 Před 6 lety

      Yokai it should be "top 100 vaporwave albums"

    • @matteogori9050
      @matteogori9050 Před 6 lety

      awf dwa yeah, that's a great list. I'm diggin most of the albums there and i'm finding more and more nice artists, but there also are some pretty crappy (imo) releases there

  • @olived.6604
    @olived.6604 Před 6 lety

    god, i remember just a few months back, you have 400 subs. just goes to show how great your channel is honestly

  • @DerekPower
    @DerekPower Před 6 lety +2

    The creative tendency is what I really love about vapour. In fact, it’s this fearless drive to make anything possible that is sorely missing in “Big Music”, which now - more than ever - relies largely on safe bets and “well the chart says”. It also reminds me of what I like about artists like Autechre (speaking of pushing boundaries and pissing people off). It can be off putting at first but once you get into it, you can unlock its hidden secrets. I honestly think that as long as that creative drive remains, vapour will never die.

  • @baragonkunfan94thesecondar60

    2:56 - 3:01 was used in "Tutorial: How to Uninstall Finobe"

  • @murdread
    @murdread Před 6 lety

    Great video Pad! I'm so happy you covered this album, as it is definitely one of the most interesting and thought provoking releases that have come out of this genre.
    For me personally, this album is one of the bleakest, loneliest and darkest experiences you can have with vaporwave. I find it relaxing to listen to while studying, traveling or doing anything else really. This is how I imagine a future sentient android's mind would sound if it was completely corrupted and broken beyond any reparations.
    I would highly recommend anyone to listen to this thing at least once, and also read the Sunbleach article about it.

  • @wes5883
    @wes5883 Před 6 lety

    you just got me back into vaporwave thanks

  • @LCVII
    @LCVII Před 5 lety +2

    The first audition is the unique, real shock experience. A second try and it won't sound that awful. From the third time on, you'll start to genuinely enjoy it... or not, maybe. But indeed this album was as revolutionary as the rise of Vaporwave through _Ecco Jams Vol. 1_ and _Floral Shoppe,_ the rise of Hardvapour with _Vaporwave is Dead_ or the bloom of Vapor Ambient/Dreampunk with _The Birth of a New Day._
    There's nothing as good as an artist that has nothing to lose, so he/she takes the step forward.

  • @inigogw
    @inigogw Před 6 lety +10

    never actually got round to listening to this , just did after this video and its great, and your review was amazing as always , please reveiw Nmesh- Pharma from 2017 a very different side to experimental vaporwave !!!

  • @ClumsEGirl
    @ClumsEGirl Před 6 lety +1

    This was cool thanks.

  • @MatthewDevil
    @MatthewDevil Před 6 lety +15

    there’s a lot to unpack here and i could write a whole essay about the things that i am thinking in response to this but i’m going to try and keep it brief:
    1. this album, in my mind, is very obviously and unquestionably music, from a philosophical and aesthetic standpoint. there has been too much exploration and progression in the modern classical worlds-from John Cage’s entirely silent work “4’33” to Folke Rabe’s 25-minute drone “Was??”- that have recontextualized and redefined the modern definition of music. so for an album that very clearly pulls compositional elements from past plunderphonic works (as well as literal unadulterated samples from musical works of the past) to not be also considered inherently musical would be to just write off the work of other envelope pushers who make us rethink what the definition of music is. i think the easiest way to think of this record is that it’s essentially the vaporwave equivalent of Trout Mask Replica, in that it takes the fundamental elements of the genre and deconstructs and scrambles them until it becomes a disorienting experience for anyone who has a passing familiarity with the original genre. it’s still very musical-there are tones, notes, melodies, rhythms, and intentional structures-but its artistic goal is just different from other albums in the genre.
    2. i think attempting to justify enjoying this album as “irony” is overthinking things. my enjoyment of this album, as well as pretty much all the vaporwave i like, is post-ironic and sincere. for me, the genre serves as a way of separating the source material (smooth jazz, soft rock, elevator music, etc) from an environment that would normally make us cringe and, in bringing it into a digital context, helps us enjoy it for its own sake. are the techniques used to make records like Floral Shoppe and D r e a m and Computer Death revolutionary? no of course not; anyone could take an 80s song and chop it up a few times. there isn’t any sort of pretentious convoluted way to interpret these albums: we like it because it just sounds cool! Liberated From The World is one of my favorite vaporwave albums simply because the sounds that Internet Club has found and picked out are interesting and unique, and the way they are arranged is fun for me to listen to. that’s it! it doesn’t need to run that deep.
    i made an album under my own vaporwave project called QUONDAM VISION that is directly inspired by this record, and i believe is arranged in a similar way. i took samples from places like japanese television commercials and foreign bootleg cartoons and scrambled them in ways that i found to be interesting. it’s one of my favorite works and i enjoy it in the same way i love Liberated From The World’s fun and frantic energy.

    • @duodot
      @duodot Před 6 lety +1

      Interesting points, but I think you are overthinking it yourself as well. Personally, I don't "like" it and I wouldn't call it music. To refer to your first point, I wouldn't call your examples music either. It's noise. There is structure, sure, but the structure is incoherent and doesn't support itself.
      There are two options the way I see it; It's either deliberate ironic noise, or a raw vaporwave "broken transmissions" masterpiece. I don't know. It was interesting to experience, but I will never do it again.

    • @MatthewDevil
      @MatthewDevil Před 6 lety +3

      duodot a completely legitimate opinion for you to have. imo all music (and all art for that matter) is completely subjective and everyone’s opinion is dependent on context and their own experience. idk why but i personally go crazy for all the avant-garde post-modern stuff so i find albums like this as well as the classical stuff i cited and even the works of noise artists like merzbow and prurient to be extremely valuable in a musical and aesthetic sense. but i can totally understand if you don’t get down with it; it’s not exactly pleasurable to the ear by the conventional definition
      i’m sorry if it sounds like i’m talking down to you i don’t mean to be i’m just trying to get my thoughts out as clearly as i can

    • @FernieCanto
      @FernieCanto Před 4 lety

      @nightridehome - "It’s conceptual art at best."
      *All* music is "conceptual art". Every piece of music is, deep down, just a concept. To say that 4'33'' is "not music" just because it has no notes is the same as saying an empty set is not a set. it's a logical absurdity, so much so that your only "argument" in its defence is an ad hominem fallacy.

  • @foiledits
    @foiledits Před 6 lety +12

    have you reviewed the genre "progressive vegetarian grindcore ? definitely a personal favorite...

  • @NovusOrdoNapoleonis
    @NovusOrdoNapoleonis Před 6 lety +11

    Not as ironic as ひどく翻訳日本語の文字 by ░▒▓【ALL CAPS AND αւτ kεÿ CΘᕸEᔕ™】░▒▓

    • @DJsuryong
      @DJsuryong Před 5 lety

      ベービー ベービー ベービー おおおおおおおおおぉぉぉぉぉぉぉ

  • @memeusmaximumusprime9141
    @memeusmaximumusprime9141 Před 6 lety +1

    I assure you that you put in more work in this video than the majority of producers have in their vaporwave tracks

  • @dreamsriwan1537
    @dreamsriwan1537 Před 2 lety +1

    It's December 2nd 2021
    Remember, vaporwave will be a style of life

  • @violetmoon287
    @violetmoon287 Před 6 lety

    Love the videos man. You should do a video on shimma33 museum. I feel like that one has gone under radar. The backstory that was originally posted on Dreamcat was really something. Anyways, keep making these.

  • @ghostface5559
    @ghostface5559 Před 6 lety +9

    Padthony chenntino

  • @MrGnarShredder
    @MrGnarShredder Před 5 lety +1

    The weirdness and uniqueness of this album is being massively overstated in this video.

  • @ZombryaTheDark
    @ZombryaTheDark Před 6 lety +5

    That face is Amuro Ray from Mobile Suit Gundam

  • @commandantcousteau6874

    Great video.

  • @creamgravy1
    @creamgravy1 Před 6 lety +2

    I clicked on this specifically because of Amuro Ray's expression. I assume he's using his 'newtype' abilities and responding to a mobile-suit (mech) attack.

  • @joaovitorreginattodasilva8840

    "Subconsciously pretentious music goers" Never before have a single phrase defined so precisely such a large number of people from so many different communities and backgrounds.
    Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not a subconsciously pretentious music goer myself, I actually do everything in my power to be as consciously pretentious as possible.

  • @radxl711_ruffiesstreams8
    @radxl711_ruffiesstreams8 Před 6 lety +6

    Woo is that amaro ray from gundam in the cover

  • @ll-nothing-ll
    @ll-nothing-ll Před 6 lety

    Always wanted someone to talk about this album

  • @jerryc5716
    @jerryc5716 Před 5 lety +4

    Ride the spiral to the end, we may just go where no one's been.

  • @ethansanchez1886
    @ethansanchez1886 Před 6 lety

    I just listened to a little bit of Liberated From the World and it's basically like a Merzbow album but without the white noise, distortion, and feedback.

  • @halaljanabi4857
    @halaljanabi4857 Před 5 lety

    I love this piece. It’s just envokes insane visions for me. It’s beautiful. But it’s terrifying.

  • @bobbackward6461
    @bobbackward6461 Před rokem +1

    I remember when New Wave was actually new. Vaporwave is simply another wave on an ocean of music genres, generations and generations old.

  • @Definit1611
    @Definit1611 Před 6 lety +3

    The fact that internet club just disappeared after releasing this album makes it even more mysterious

    • @sleeve9097
      @sleeve9097 Před 8 měsíci

      they were liberated from the world

  • @nessonettboy2300
    @nessonettboy2300 Před 6 lety +4

    Vaporwave is still in the beginning of his evolution!!!

  • @PieMasterX
    @PieMasterX Před 6 lety

    Dude nice vid! Where you get that stock footage? thanks bro. Have a good night or day.

  • @nullera
    @nullera Před 11 měsíci

    I was kinda curious as to why this style sounded so familiar to me, but upon remembering this after relistening to a lot of what we have of the band again, it reminds me a fair bit of Five Starcle Men, or at least some parts remind me of their music lol

  • @maxzfjsalvnzlx
    @maxzfjsalvnzlx Před 5 lety

    I like vaporwave and listen to it sometimes... and I guess CZcams thought now was a good time to let this video appear in my recommendations? Nearly a whole year later?

  • @russellkilpatrick4302
    @russellkilpatrick4302 Před 6 lety +6

    Great video as always, but isn't New Deluxe Life an alias of Internet Club and The Darkest Future an alias of HKE?

    • @DerekPower
      @DerekPower Před 6 lety

      Russell Kilpatrick Indeed it is.

    • @murdread
      @murdread Před 6 lety

      Yeah, you're right.

  • @unsungheroes8626
    @unsungheroes8626 Před 6 lety +2

    me: fuck, i should get some sleep its 1 in the morning
    pad uploads:
    me: well guess am staying up a little longer, fuck

  • @lukegrimes3110
    @lukegrimes3110 Před 6 lety

    I've just listened to that album and I'm still clueless as to what is going on but, it was very interesting to say the least.

  • @comradefreedom8275
    @comradefreedom8275 Před 6 lety

    I love how Amuro Ray's face is on the front cover of the album. Amuro Ray from Mobile Suit Gundam. I love this kind of art house kind of music.

  • @heylookitsrandy
    @heylookitsrandy Před 6 lety +3

    6:41 hold up my boy, Pad. I think you mightve just found a sample of that track. 🤔

    • @PlatinumTriforce
      @PlatinumTriforce Před 6 lety +1

      This is the sample: czcams.com/video/MgDzmTj5tSM/video.html

  • @tsg_frank5829
    @tsg_frank5829 Před 6 lety +1

    Since the earliest beginnings of the vaporware genre we've had album pushing the sound further beyond and creating sub genres, experimenting with the aesthetic.
    Vaporware was always this extremely ironic genre with no real bounds, I feel like this album encapsulates that to the core.
    But this definitely isn't as far as a genre can be pushed.

  • @Bant_Panorama
    @Bant_Panorama Před 6 lety

    I love that album, great example (albeit extreme) of vaporwave and also a criticism of it as a musical genre.

  • @DaveWasley
    @DaveWasley Před 6 lety

    It’s like a musical version of Jacques Derrida’s The Postcard. It’s about projection, and it’s really interesting to listen to. And I would listen again.

  • @NathanHarris83
    @NathanHarris83 Před 6 lety

    That was a full minute of you chewing on some serious words there, buddy. My oh my.

  • @XHEADTOWALLX
    @XHEADTOWALLX Před 4 lety

    Pad,
    Has there been any talk of either of these releases coming out on vinyl?

  • @eeveeflick5871
    @eeveeflick5871 Před 6 lety

    One of my favorite albums of all-time

  • @reece386
    @reece386 Před 3 lety +2

    At this point vaporwave will never die. It'll just eat its own tail over and over.

  • @summonerstripclub4840
    @summonerstripclub4840 Před 6 lety

    Sun, Sea and Surfing/Late Night Delight etc are pretty much the kind of catchy vaporwave I'm obsessed with
    I can't get into the really experimental basically vapornoise stuff

  • @ChryztinaWonderlandMusick

    Clearly , I need to listen to this.

  • @AlbornozVEVO
    @AlbornozVEVO Před 3 lety +1

    It's the "Everywhere At The End Of Time" of vaporwave.

  • @Napsteraspx
    @Napsteraspx Před 6 lety +1

    Blank Banshee is hands down the most phenomenal vaporwave artist out there. The more you listen to his songs, the more dynamic expressions you pick up.

  • @halaljanabi4857
    @halaljanabi4857 Před 6 lety

    Pad. The voice of the genre👌

  • @tree2040
    @tree2040 Před 6 lety

    I kind of see this as a continued version of the experiments Oval was doing with glitch in the mid 90s but with a more contemporary base. Familiar noises are being altered to fuel enigmatic and hypnagogic soundscapes and loops that challenge what was previously held as dominant. It can absolutely be considered music in the sense that it's blatantly trying to subvert and forward music through absurd practices.

  • @theofarnum8706
    @theofarnum8706 Před 6 lety

    Speaking of a song that is in pieces and has to be built up, have you heard of the Flaming Lips’ parking lot experiments? Before they started working on The Soft Bulletin, when they were struggling to find their sound, they hosted some events where they’d have a song that was split up onto dozens of tapes. They’d have a bunch of people come together in a parking lot and play the tapes in their cars’ tape decks, hoping to sync them up. They then released a home version, Zaireeka, that was a handful of songs split up across 4 CDs, meant to be played simultaneously on four different CD players.

  • @devindevon
    @devindevon Před 2 lety +2

    This is fairly tame in comparison to the musique Concrète avant-garde experimental electronic stuff of the 1960s and 70s, not to mention 1980s Throbbing Gristle, The Residents, and countless industrial artists. If you're looking for something weird and challenging and beautiful, may I direct your attention to Lovesliescrushing from the 1990s.

  • @4444tttt
    @4444tttt Před 6 lety

    music is beautiful

  • @RestFunction
    @RestFunction Před 6 lety +1

    In my opinion when you stretch things this far it becomes more personal. This means that people who connect with it will love it, most people will hate it.
    I absolutely love this. The fifth track (the one with all the hearts) is one of my favourite things to ever come out of vaporwave. It's like a film in my mind. A lonely phone booth in night-time Hong-Kong.
    Don't want to sound pretentious...

    • @RestFunction
      @RestFunction Před 6 lety +1

      Holy hell, wrote the comment in the very beginning of the video, guess we kinda feel the same huh

  • @curbyourenthusiasm9874

    Vaporwave makes me relax and sometimes gives me a dream

  • @prfo5554
    @prfo5554 Před 6 lety +2

    I think it would be cool if someone would make a new genre of music called Classic Vaporwave, or something along those lines. The goal would be to have Vaporwave music that sounds like the early Vaporwave albums.

  • @CanaldoMiles
    @CanaldoMiles Před 4 lety +1

    Noobs: Vaporwave - Floral Shop 2
    Vets: Broken transmission///Signal wave