VAN BUILD | CONVERTING NATURAL GAS TO PROPANE | FAULTY GASLAND CHEF
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What was supposed to be a video on how to convert a stove from natural gas to propane, turned into a rant after the stove almost burned down everything I have been working on the next 3 month.
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Since you are selling the van, it may be best to go with the safest route. It is too easy for inexperienced propane users to forget or misuse. You may end up being liable for any damages and injuries as the van builder.
@@Trang-xq9fn you bring up some good points... 🤔
@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Maybe look into liability insurance or get a good lawyer to help with your sales contract.
@@Trang-xq9fn I decided to make the jump to induction! couldn't comfortable sell this van with a stove top with such a sensitive regulator... too dangerous, especially in a van!
@@AnkeneyVanBuilds Wise decision! Induction cooktops do cook at lower wattages after the initial high 1800W to start it. You should test a few brands before installing one permanently.
How rare it is to find a builder who is willing to describe the challenges they face when building the van. So often you see folks just building these amazing vans and you never see the trial and error. I've watched so many van build videos and never seen a video like this. Thank you for educating folks, you might be saving a life.
I appreciate that!!!
THIS STOVE IS GREAT!
HOWEVER, IT REQUIRES A DUAL STAGE REGULATOR!!! It won't function without one nor will most hot water heaters!
The PSI in Lp tanks is far too high for most single stage regulators and they lock and some applicances do as well.. this being one of them!
Long story short. If you're using Lp get a dual stage regulator and it'll work flawlessly. Make sure to place it within 2 feet of your tank! I put the regulator that it came with closer to the stove so I used both.
Hey cool build. This is a common issue with setting up a gas hub. The stove is fine. Basically it comes down to psi, and balance. That stove is rated for 0.5 psi. Because too much gas is entering the burner tubes, and propane is heavyer than air its over overflowing the system and flooding the stove housing with gas, igniting, and causing flames to shoot out. ( these systems are not sealed to prevent explosions)
Solution: If you have changed the jet nozzles to lpg, there is another set of flow adjustment for the burner head itself. Unscrew the housing from underneath, the glass will lift off. Next to the burner there should be valve like the one next to the knobs. Zero these out then open a 1/4 turn. rest the burner plates on the burner, ( leave glass off for now) lite the stove and adjust the flame for both burners so they are sufficient when both burners are lit.
Alternatively you can back down your regulator by turning the grey knob on the outside, it looks like one piece but it can be turned with a wrench. This backs a spring off a diaphragm, reducing the flow. ( it will not leak gas if this is left loose.) This step will keep you from having a flame up again while you figure out the other adjustments. When you have balance in the system you should be able to have the regulator fully open ( tightened) and a healthy flame out of all burner holes at the same time, with no flickering flames, or dead spots when turned all the way down. You should never hear a rush of gas, just a whisper. You should also have a one was valve on the gas line and an emergency shut off valve, uncscrewing a bottle take alot longer when your kitchen is on fire.
One easy way to get all this would have been too buy a flex gas line kit at home depot, then add a shut off valve. One last tip: Do this kinda thing outside your build, then install it. Hope this helps, good luck.
Hi thanks for the info! And I did do that with the valves... propane still rushed out!
You need a double stage regulator before this small "last" regulator. These stoves, just like big brands like suburban, require an entry that is already low pressure (1psi or so) but you gave it direct lpg pressure which is around 200 psi. The small regulator cant handle all that.
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This emphasizes how important it is to check the gas equipment outside of the van. Only install when it's all worked out . . . then fully check again inside the van once installed (& check periodically throughout the burners lifetime.). Oh yeah, and make sure you have generous ventilation, install detectors (CO, CO2 & smoke) & ALWAYS carry 2 fire extinguishers (one up front & one in the back). Lastly, every build should have a front & rear egress (a way to exit the van in an emergency). PS: I love, love induction cooktops (if your van has the electrical capacity for it}. I hope you're enjoying yours : ). 👩🍳
Oh god.... bought 2 they are on the way. DAMN!
Amazon has a 30 return period for these. I unfortunately bought them at the beginning of the build... you still have time!!!
Glad you're not injured and the van didn't burn down
Me too! That would have been a really bad day....
I just did mine today, I kept 45 degrees angle with green gasket inside and I got a better hose and double regulator, change the brass tip to propane, and work well..ps..make sure you have all same conversion threads.
That was scary. Glad everything turned out ok.
Thanks!
I thought the yellow Teflon tape is what u use for gas lines.
You are correct!
Thanks dude!
I Use single burner portable butane stove, an msr multifuel stove, and an induction stove. All portable can be used outside and inside with ventilation for the msr. No installation needed and free up the countertop space when not in use.
Nice!!!
I had the same issue with my stove. The company recommended another hose with a different regulator that stepped the pressure down to a pressure the stovetop could handle.
Ahh I see! Too much uncertainty for me since I sold this van. Induction was the right call!
Fingers crossed the next stove works better!
I just hope the van doesn’t burn down and I’ll be stoked!
Glad you’re safe and decided to stop. Just a couple of thoughts as I watched your video. First of all I believe this system (LP anything) is so critical that only LP professionals should do the install for obvious reasons! Second, there is specific gas line tape for threads that is yellow in color and the white water pipe tape shouldn’t be used. Third, I have a Magic Chef two burner almost identical to yours and it required a second regulator from gas cylinder before hooking up to stove top regulator to help with gas flow. These are. It critiques but that stove is being used in hundreds if not thousands of RV’s very successfully! 🤙
Thanks for the advice!! I did have professionals set up the hose/regulator for me and I didn’t have any issues with leaks or anything on that aspect. And I will go buy some yellow tape. I used the tape provided in the box, (I’m wondering why it was white 🤔)
And yours had two regulators?? Where were the two? And I wonder if that would have helped?
Because the rush of propane was coming out of the knobs of the oven itself. And looking at the reviews there were a handful of people who experienced the same issue.
I purchased a new stove that comes as LPG and doesn’t require a conversation. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻
In today's mass production world, you can count on some faulty units being sold. It's unavoidable. Don't try to convince yourself that just because many units are successfully used in vans, your unit will be fine. Always, always test your unit (although outside the van at first). Repair, retrofit or return if needed.
princess auto carries those adapters to use the small green bottles
We had a similar stove to yours and had the same issue, think they are made in the same Chinese factory. What we had to do was ditch the regulator that came with it and get one with an adjustment knob and we were able to control the flow from there. We've since replaced it with a much safer induction cooktop and never looked back.
Where did you go to get that regulator if you don’t mind me asking?
I’m now starting to see the appeal of an induction cooktop....
@@AnkeneyVanBuilds my wife works at a propane company here so we were able to get everything we needed from there. I'll add, that the induction cooktop was near half the price of the gas cooktop as well.
Heres a link to one that might work for you. amz.run/4KR8 We have a Furion single burner which was just $65.
@@yourpcmd I’m looking into induction now. Definitely thinking I’m gonna switch to that. Which induction did you go with?
@@yourpcmd That stove top looks perfect!!! Ill go with this one. THANK YOU!
Couldn't find the little screws under the knobs to regulate flow on mine, different brand but very similar model (thermomate), but the instructions also describe doing it so.
Yeah they’re tricky. I’m team Induction now lol
Super frustrating man. Thanks for warning us about this lemon.
You're welcome! fingers crossed on the next one working..... lol
That cast iron grille looks dangerous if you have to emergency brake…or is it clipped in to the top or secured some way?
I just purchased same model. All I did was replace jets with smaller LPG jets (supplied in kit) and dumped their regulator in trash and fitted standard Gasmate Regulator with hose set to 2.75kPa as required for that Gasland unit - no problems, works great.
Did you use a 1LB propane bottle?
Hay, from some of the comments it looks like there’s a workaround? Double regulator, various valve adjusts, etc, You don’t happen to have the thread sizes for those adaptor fittings, do you? Mine is 100k away, uninstalled but counter cut, and I’m hoping to use shortly. Thanks!
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Can you go with an electric induction cooktop if you have a sufficient solar system? It may be worth it for safety.
Many van builders end up switching over to electric cooktops after they used propane cooktops.
Yeah I go back and forth with induction.
I’d hate to have a few cloudy days and lose the ability to cook or heat up things.
Propane is just a simpler and cost effective option. (Typically) until I got this stove making me reconsider....
thanks for your comment
I herd your little one pound bottle is higher pressure and those stove work with big bottles of propane wish are low pressure!
Interesting.... I would have never guessed. That could be the reason. Thanks!
We are looking at propane stoves for our van. We won't be buying this one! Thanks for the great videos!
Thank you!!! Happy to hear you like this videos. Cheers!
We going to take this stove out to the range and turn it into a huge fireball?
Hahaha that’s the only thing I can think of doing to this stove at this point
I've bought one of these for my kitchen to use as a single gas domino hob. Will it be OK for this?
Yeah that should be okay. I think the root of the problem was the 1lb propane bottles and the higher pressure in them
@@AnkeneyVanBuilds cool. Thanks 👍🏽
Did you install a 30 milibar PRESSURE REDUCER? Running a turbo without a wastegate and braking your engine is not the turbo fault.
I brought this to a professional BBQ and Propane store to set up. They did not. I followed the instructions to the T and was on the phone with their customer service for hours. No mention of a 30 millibar pressure reducer
You should contact Hank Hill. He could set you up with all your propane and propane accessories.
My hero lol
I got the K & H one hope to not have the sames issues 🤦🏽🤦🏽.
Fingers crossed 🤞🏻
Well it worked lol. 😁.
@@DFWfreerider good job! Haha
@@AnkeneyVanBuilds thanks
The first mistake you made was using a cordless drill to remove the jets, second mistake was use that regulator all you needed to do was use POL BBq regulator with 1/2 BSP female to 3/8 sae flare male coupling. Third when you heard and gas leak after adjusting the screw below the gas knob , you should have check the gas fittings under the knob panel by simply removing the screws underneath the gas burners and check gas valves that has clear been damaged when you tried adjusting the the flow. So lastly yes the cooktop is faulty but this faulty was due to person trying to install this cooktop. My advice to you is get a professional to do this work because you a clear a danger to yourself and others.
Hi there. For this hob did the natural to LP parts come with the stove or did you have to purchase these separately?
All those fittings inside your van is crazy !!! You should take that to a gas fitter
I did. thats where I got it from. I got rid of propane all together. I use induction
where can i find these parts and what are they called?
What parts are you referring to?
The adapters? I went to a local BBQ shop and asked for help!
How to get that adapter? What model number? Thanks
Replace your regulator
I just got rid of it all together and went induction. Why would that company have a product a with such an unreliable regulator?
@@AnkeneyVanBuilds I think the regulator instructions were wrong. The spring shouldn't be pushing on the regulator diaphragm. I believe that would increase the pressure just like an air regulator does when you screw down on it. If you hear a louder rush of gas don't light it.
@@RollingThunder808 The instructions mentioned the spring going the way I placed it as well as various other videos on the subject. Someone else mentioned in the comments that the 1lb bottles have more pressure than your standard 20lb and thats why this regulator couldn't support the 1lb. I don't know how true that is but I think thats the case
The burners look really close! are you able to sit two pots or a pot and a frying pan at the same time? Good work on the set up!
Get rid of the dual reg and use a solely LPG one
I just went to induction
Maybe you should have had the regulator going in the correct direction. There is an arrow on it for flow and you had it installed backwards.
I assure you that wasn’t the case. They’re different sized fittings. the regulator can only thread onto the stove in one direction.
That is incorrect. There is a flow arrow on the regulator. I have the same stove and picked up on that right away looking at it in your video.
@@danhill1213 respectfully. I disagree. I even took it to a professional local propane bbq place to look at it and install it With the proper sized adapters.
hey sorry its like a 1 year later but i just seen this can u send me a parts list for all of this to make it propane bud pleeeeeaasssseeeee thanks
You can buy a propane 2 burner cooktop for less than a $100. Is your time that cheap?
Thanks for sharing, looking for a good 2 burner, I will not be buying this product
No problem 👍
Wrong teflon tape. Thats not for gas fittings
There called jets
This video is not helping anyone. Please don't make videos involving explosive gases without knowing the basics. 1. Gas tape, not Teflon tape. 2. Understand what pressure fittings are. 3. Colman camping stove? Good advice: 1. Soapy water to test for leaks. Propane store or Trailer Supply. Thanks for trying to help folks! I'm writing this comment for the next guy.
I've enjoyed a lot of your videos but it's clear you don't know what you're doing with propane and honestly it's dangerous to be putting out videos like this somebody might try and follow
I just wasted my time watching only to have you say don't buy.
Put it in the title so we don't waste our time watching.
They title literally says “faulty gasland chef” and the thumbnail says “do not buy this stove”
I was pretty clear….