RTX FE Cooler Tear-Down & Secrets of NVIDIA's Apple-Like Design

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  • čas přidán 16. 09. 2018
  • We revisit the RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition cooler and disassembly for vindication, this time fully taking apart the cooler and revealing a few secrets along the way.
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    Part 1 of the tear-down is here: • RTX 2080 Ti Founders E...
    This tear-down revisits the cooler of the NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition card. We show the glue holding it all together -- literally -- and employ a heat gun to help pry it apart. We also found RGB LED controllers and cables and more. For anyone looking to add water blocks to their RTX 2080 (Ti) reference cards, it is fortunately easy, and not much different from taking apart a GTX 1080 Ti. The PCB separates from the cooler, and the cooler does not need to be disassembled to install a custom water cooling block on the RTX 2080 cards. Unfortunately, servicing the fans for replacement or blowing dust out of the Founders Edition will be very difficult.
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Před 5 lety +89

    RTX 2080 Review is LIVE! czcams.com/video/jUM_eINGUl4/video.html
    Original, first part of the tear-down over here: czcams.com/video/3C9GuizA5ks/video.html
    Grab a modmat on the GN Store! store.gamersnexus.net/

    • @GEM_MAX
      @GEM_MAX Před 5 lety

      Is the GPU on the 20 series just a hopped up 10 series GPU and the only real difference in the 10 and 20 series cards is the ram?

    • @JP-mx1zs
      @JP-mx1zs Před 5 lety +2

      so this is why this card costs 1200$. Cause of the sheer number of screws.

    • @mattsmechanicalssi5833
      @mattsmechanicalssi5833 Před 5 lety

      Tom gave you the hint, didn't he? Awesome work GN!

    • @daz2.058
      @daz2.058 Před 5 lety

      a wedge may work better

    • @spkt0r
      @spkt0r Před 5 lety

      WOW Imagine one fan goes bad, omg lol. (oh steve said something to that effect, yeah i should wait till the end of the vid before a post). thanks for the vid.

  • @idefyu23
    @idefyu23 Před 5 lety +544

    Heat gun me arse..It's your industrial strength Hair Dryer

    • @White-Wolf1969
      @White-Wolf1969 Před 5 lety +20

      And I can't live without it!

    • @uss_04
      @uss_04 Před 5 lety +24

      Thats why it took so long, Steve kept on doing his hair during the teardown. Completely unavoidable.

    • @grizzly6699
      @grizzly6699 Před 5 lety

      Ha LOL!!!

    • @jaxativejax662
      @jaxativejax662 Před 5 lety +10

      If you heat gun your arse then your short and curlies are going to get a lot shorter and curlier.

    • @zedzedski7382
      @zedzedski7382 Před 5 lety

      LOL! :-)

  • @l.l.9064
    @l.l.9064 Před 5 lety +738

    I'm glad that the verge told us that we need a table.
    Made me laugh hard😂

  • @shadowq2
    @shadowq2 Před 5 lety +231

    NVidia didn't plan the cooler to be removed, they expect you to just buy another one when the first one it's full of dust.

    • @heisenberg1338
      @heisenberg1338 Před 5 lety +39

      apple quality at it's finest
      can't wait for genius bar nvidia style, those fans will not last a year

    • @andljoy
      @andljoy Před 5 lety +2

      Daddy apple would be proud!

    • @____5837
      @____5837 Před 5 lety +1

      mikes gt and when the fan breaks in a year or 2?

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety +2

      A Brackers, send it back for a brand new cooler like every normal fucking person.
      With their 3 year warranty.

    • @Obababoy
      @Obababoy Před 5 lety +5

      Or use a damn compressed air can...Are you old enough to buy those?

  • @JamesSmith-dn8lb
    @JamesSmith-dn8lb Před 5 lety +57

    5:10 Tech Jesus' hairdryer.

    • @deletesobaka
      @deletesobaka Před 5 lety +1

      Actually I used one of these as a hairdryer for some time.
      It's good for heating but sucks at blowing (and air volume is much more important if you don't want to damage your hair ), thus not recommended.

  • @thomasd5248
    @thomasd5248 Před 5 lety +387

    Wow, a heat gun for removal? Why does it have to be every companies personal mission to make everything for the consumer more difficult. Very apple like indeed.

    • @maseratiolli
      @maseratiolli Před 5 lety +3

      I guess you could do it without a heatgun, if you use a prying tool or knife to reach underneath the aluminium plate

    • @chukwu_9
      @chukwu_9 Před 5 lety +28

      MaseratiOlli uhhh no he literally said you would damage the card...

    • @backupplan6058
      @backupplan6058 Před 5 lety +16

      Until they produce the equivalent of a keyboard with a track history of malfunctioning and then think it’s a great idea to rivet the thing down then Apple remains the master.

    • @kevadu
      @kevadu Před 5 lety +43

      It's worse in some ways. I'm no Apple fan but the practice of gluing phones together does actually make *some* sense. It's good for water resistance and helps make the whole thing more compact. But here...I see absolutely no justification for gluing that plate on besides being intentionally anti-consumer.

    • @backupplan6058
      @backupplan6058 Před 5 lety +17

      Kevadu, ever tried to remove a reassemble a broken iPhone or iPad screen. It’s one of the worst jobs to do to repair a device. A rubber seal could do a better job than glue.

  • @costinleonte4075
    @costinleonte4075 Před 5 lety +271

    what do we all have in common with the rtx cards? we're massively screwed by nvidia..

    • @greyXstar
      @greyXstar Před 5 lety +9

      I didn't realize they were forcing everyone to buy them

    • @MazeFrame
      @MazeFrame Před 5 lety +10

      greyXstar Use gameworks to make everything not branded RTX run like shit and they are golden.

    • @Hyperus
      @Hyperus Před 5 lety

      @@MazeFrame dont See how Gameworks would Ruin anything non rtx

    • @pam0077
      @pam0077 Před 5 lety +12

      Nvidia makes, at first glance, what looked like a very effective vapor chamber, dual axial fan cooling solution. Only to find out it's actually a very effective, non-serviceable dust collector. The AIB partners have to be viewing GN for their excellent coverage of the RTX 2000 series, and are now breathing a big sigh of relief.

    • @MazeFrame
      @MazeFrame Před 5 lety +5

      Hyperus In Java, it is quite easy to dynamically switch the class that gets executed depending on, for example, the OS. A similar route could be taken to identify hardware and then execute the less optimized code on GTX hardware.
      Or do the old Nvidia trick where they throw more polygons on flat surfaces in order to cripple AMD, but optimize it so RTX gets hit less than GTX/AMD... we have been there and seen all of this! How do people not expect shit like this to happen?!

  • @touchgameplay
    @touchgameplay Před 5 lety +10

    You know things are serious when Stephen takes out his Heat Gun ;)

  • @dickr9345
    @dickr9345 Před 5 lety +24

    15:15 Probably had RGB initially but nvidia decided to scrap the red and blue so "consumers knew what they were getting"
    red=AMD
    blue=Intel
    They just didn't want the lights to confuse us;)

    • @edited416
      @edited416 Před 4 lety

      With some modding you can change the color by yourself.

  • @lynns0802
    @lynns0802 Před 5 lety +90

    "let it warm up for a second" I saw you there steve you just had to buy some time to put your hair back before the glorious locks caught fire

    • @Gun4Freedom
      @Gun4Freedom Před 5 lety +1

      That would be an even greater tragedy than the upside down flying dumpster fire that is that heatsink design.

  • @Tsunami1991
    @Tsunami1991 Před 5 lety +597

    Nvidia: do not disassemble our preview cards!
    Gamer Nexus: hold my beer.

  • @mbunds
    @mbunds Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you so much! After I saw the aluminum plate separate as you heated it, I grabbed my spudger and pried the plate slightly away from the plastic frame, then cut the glue with a knife, working down gently until the plate came away, no damage at all.
    I couldn't have done it without you, thanks again!

  • @DavidTimothy
    @DavidTimothy Před 5 lety +1

    Wow, it should NEVER be that hard to replace the moving parts in a device. That's amazing.

  • @TheCapedCoconut
    @TheCapedCoconut Před 5 lety +208

    Please never stop with those pokes at The Verge.

    • @maj429
      @maj429 Před 5 lety +10

      That and motherboard

    • @e4r281
      @e4r281 Před 5 lety +16

      and Tom's Hardware

    • @AaronGoodrich77
      @AaronGoodrich77 Před 5 lety +10

      Yeah I think its time for the real MF's in the business like GN , Jay's, Etc... should be running the show as the alpha geeks. Screw these money pit websites like the Verge from getting another dollar. Time to start posting comments more on their websites and exposing them more. They are all bullshit and paid for by the companies to say whatever that company wants. I don't see GN being complete sell outs, yes they have to make money at least their knowledge is legitimate and doesn't require a swiss army knife to take apart or put together. Proper tool-sets are the practice.

    • @OptimusToaster
      @OptimusToaster Před 5 lety +2

      And Dyson

    • @ujiltromm7358
      @ujiltromm7358 Před 5 lety

      And the H500p

  • @MunkeyChips
    @MunkeyChips Před 5 lety +477

    I can see the marketing now:
    Nvidia RTX 2080ti! Now with 200% more screws for only 72% more cost! Pre-order today!!!

    • @dra6o0n
      @dra6o0n Před 5 lety +10

      More tougher seals so you may accidentally break it and buy another.

    • @lawrencewagner553
      @lawrencewagner553 Před 5 lety +5

      And we will delay it a week so we can buy more screws !!!

    • @ProStateExaminer
      @ProStateExaminer Před 5 lety +4

      +ampetdutchvideod
      Lol.....just lol....

    • @4G12
      @4G12 Před 5 lety +1

      Trolling shill is a trolling shill...

    • @crimsun7186
      @crimsun7186 Před 5 lety +4

      I'm not surprised if they eventually start riveting instead of putting screws. That's what's Apple is currently doing.

  • @CTLatteberry
    @CTLatteberry Před 5 lety +29

    Rather than most people who would just bash nvidia and call them stupid for using so many screws, I really enjoyed hearing your opinion on the reasons they might have done it for the benefit of the card. Thanks!

  • @Darkswordz
    @Darkswordz Před 5 lety +1

    You guys give content the other sites don't. Keep up the good work!

  • @murraymemories
    @murraymemories Před 5 lety +80

    the verge is just getting roasting on every channel lol

    • @chomerly
      @chomerly Před 5 lety +18

      Deservedly so. That "guide" is so bad that it could cause some inexperienced pc builder a lot of money. I don't think there was anything in the video that wasn't bad practice. And I think the worst part is that The Verge and the PC builder in the video tried to dismiss the criticism by disabling comments on CZcams and blocking tech-tubers like Greg from Science Studio on Twitter for making a video about how bad their practices were.

    • @harima7757
      @harima7757 Před 5 lety

      Feels bad

    • @graemes8187
      @graemes8187 Před 5 lety +7

      Lets be fair.
      Its not that hard to build a PC.
      Jay and Linus have their little kids doing it.
      For a magazine like Verge that regularly covers tech, they might as well have taken their reputation out back and shot it between the eyes.
      And yeah, they tried to disable comments and distance themselves from critics.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 5 lety

      I guess the noticed how much was wrong, but wouldn't like to admit it. That is how censoring opposing viewpoints usually goes. If you have to disable comments and block people who think different, you already lost.

  • @TaskerTech
    @TaskerTech Před 5 lety

    love how smooth your videos are.

  • @johntotten4872
    @johntotten4872 Před 5 lety +39

    Everything, no matter how hard they try succumbs to the Tech Jesus disassembly. Awesome video man.

  • @chronyk743
    @chronyk743 Před 5 lety +34

    This cooler has alot of screws and they can't just put 4 more screws for that front black led thing, no let's just glue wow Nvidia.

    • @bronstet
      @bronstet Před 5 lety

      I know, right? It's so weird that they would cheap out on that of all things.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz Před 5 lety +2

      Actually glue is not them cheaping out, because screw down assemblies are designed self-aligning. No such luck with glue down assemblies, it will cause manufacturing rejects. It is purely done for aesthetic purposes, though I personally would have found some stainless hex key screws attractive.

    • @ilpatongi
      @ilpatongi Před 5 lety +1

      In all honesty it’s not important, as long as you remove the cooler from the card for water cooling who cares if the stock cooler can be disassembled or not.
      I’m not saying it’s a good choice, but it’s not critical nor a ripoff

  • @sinansakic85
    @sinansakic85 Před 5 lety +9

    The AVC fans are awesome, I can see the same brand 120mm fans on the back of Lenovo D20 that is a big tower workstation from 2010 and they are still running 100% with no issues.

  • @MiniYsuAngel
    @MiniYsuAngel Před 5 lety

    waiting for your benchmarks, you are the only reviewer that I fully trust.
    Thanks for all the effort, to you and all your team.

  • @letssuperfuntime
    @letssuperfuntime Před 5 lety

    4:27 Nice little knife twist for the Verge there.
    Expertly done sir.

  • @Krkandkan
    @Krkandkan Před 5 lety +75

    Really....glue?

    • @SilkenLuna
      @SilkenLuna Před 5 lety +3

      Really. This is nVidia, don't forget.

    • @TheWallsocket
      @TheWallsocket Před 5 lety +5

      Be grateful, it’s that good shit. Go on, give it a sniff.

    • @andljoy
      @andljoy Před 5 lety +3

      Its like , the best glue ! Its glue so good RED would charge you 400 quid for a 5g tube of it to fix your overpriced camera !

    • @dmynerd78
      @dmynerd78 Před 5 lety

      Nvidia had to hop on the "glued on" train

    • @1984sangkai
      @1984sangkai Před 5 lety

      They were trying to reduce the amount of screws they were using.

  • @frankb5728
    @frankb5728 Před 5 lety +39

    you should have held it up on it's side and applied an anti-clockwise twisting motion while pulling it apart, one hand oriented north by northwest and the other pointing towards mecca. It should come apart easily, if not, you're doing something wrong.

    • @1984sangkai
      @1984sangkai Před 5 lety +1

      Lol, towards mecca 😂

    • @khirasier
      @khirasier Před 5 lety +2

      so you want him to twist it like in those old Oreo advertisements

    • @epicobananicus
      @epicobananicus Před 5 lety +5

      Instructions unclear. Dick stuck in RTX card

  • @renchesandsords
    @renchesandsords Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the sacrifice, this helped me immensely in removing the trimmings at the sides for more airflow

  • @angelnegron594
    @angelnegron594 Před 5 lety

    You deserve way more subs man, very hard and dirty work that is very educactional that nobody does except this chanel

  • @FeedMeSalt
    @FeedMeSalt Před 5 lety +73

    AMD if you can hear me. Keep your cards user accessible and ill be with you.

    • @Feezwa
      @Feezwa Před 5 lety +10

      @mikes gt
      So let's make a card with 100 screws so we can benefit from a 100% performance boost ! *slow clap*

    • @Feezwa
      @Feezwa Před 5 lety +8

      @mikes gt
      How did you miss that by miles dude ? I can't even.....
      In your initial reply you said "Great idea. Sacrifice huge performance for less screws", indicating that you actually support Nvidia's ridiculous number of screws into their new GPU release because it provides better performance. And I took the chance to capitalize on that by ironically saying : " So let's make a card with 100 screws so we can benefit from a 100% performance boost !"
      Looks like you doubled down by biting it and actually support this anticonsumer behaviour by saying "If a card is going to give me 100% performance, I don't care if it is bolted together."

    • @briannguyen6055
      @briannguyen6055 Před 5 lety

      @mikes gt unless you don't plan on buying a powerful card just a bargain one not talking about vega 64 however vega 56 is pretty good at msrp.

    • @somedude2492
      @somedude2492 Před 5 lety

      @@Feezwa don't really know how you clean your gpu, but i clean it 4 times a year and it's been perfectly fine for the last year and something.

    • @rockyladoodle7563
      @rockyladoodle7563 Před 5 lety

      you do realize what sarcasm is, correct?

  • @wargamingrefugee9065
    @wargamingrefugee9065 Před 5 lety +40

    Can you take some measurements so folks can locate the hidden screws without removing the black plate? That way, people can just drill through the black plate to access the screws, then cover the holes with some plastic plugs (or some really cool looking digital RGB LED's [groan]).

    • @Finn-ip6jg
      @Finn-ip6jg Před 5 lety +3

      GROAN 😂

    • @e4r281
      @e4r281 Před 5 lety +2

      *GRINS*

    • @keptinkaos6384
      @keptinkaos6384 Před 5 lety +2

      warranty now not worth a warm shit

    • @ZorinInc
      @ZorinInc Před 5 lety +4

      Ok, so the new plan is to just run it on air cooling until the warranty expires, then tear into it to put a waterblock on and overclock the shit out of it.

  • @RodRosenberg
    @RodRosenberg Před 4 lety

    Steve, Thanks so much for this I've bounced back to this video many times as I mod a 2080ti

  • @rangefindershieldsman9635

    Thanks for a teardown video Steve, I really enjoyed this video.

  • @rogerj412
    @rogerj412 Před 5 lety +12

    I get the strange feeling that nVidia really doesn't want people taking these cards apart.

  • @CTLatteberry
    @CTLatteberry Před 5 lety +6

    this channel deserves more subs

  • @Muageto
    @Muageto Před 5 lety

    Looking forward to that review and the temperatures you got :)

  • @christopherday3923
    @christopherday3923 Před 5 lety

    This channel is hands down the best! No one comes close :)

  • @vidyamancer7135
    @vidyamancer7135 Před 5 lety +163

    Using glue on a $1200 card 😭

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety +14

      Well, yeah most heat resistant adhesives are more expensive than screws, so your sentiment is factually in accurate.
      Dont worry, your 10 series card is not totally irrelevant yet.

    • @enoughbs7645
      @enoughbs7645 Před 5 lety +26

      Meme Machine - the 10 series cards aren't going to be irrelevant for quite some time. Are you insecure with your overpriced purchase, perhaps?

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety +6

      God no, the raw specs on my monster of a card are insane. Though I don't buy the new leaked benchamkrs of a almost 50% jump the more likely 30% jump is fucking amazing.
      Just look at the raw specs and you will see why the 2080Ti is such a fucking monster of a card, water cool it and you aint stopping.

    • @Superjunge
      @Superjunge Před 5 lety +3

      Meme Machine cant agree more man, i preordered one too as soon as ive seen the specs. much more cuda cores and faster vram with this beautiful cooling design, what could you want more from a new card. also this card inst made for kids who cant afford it.

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety

      Superjunge 1380, im water cooling mine (preorderd backplate and block from EK), which is kinda sad because I really really like the new look.

  • @thenetpagan
    @thenetpagan Před 5 lety +34

    Can’t wait for the Franken-liquid-cooler RTX Card by Gamers Nexus

    • @littlerhino2006
      @littlerhino2006 Před 5 lety +1

      Nah, they skip that sissy above ambient stuff and go straight to the liquid nitrogen.

  • @Questchaun
    @Questchaun Před 5 lety

    Glad you made it out Steve. We still waiting for 40 and 74 to clear.

  • @katerwhall1865
    @katerwhall1865 Před 5 lety

    When Steve can't quite finish the task, he asks for help. great video and can't wait for the mod.

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 Před 5 lety +14

    3:58 - What the hell is that?! A _wired_ anti-static wrist strap?! Next you'll be telling me that off camera, it's properly connected to ground so that it actually provides a path for electricity to make it to ground as intended! Come on, where's the wireless livestrong anti-static strap?

  • @bladezero25
    @bladezero25 Před 5 lety +35

    This channel is legit.

    • @e4r281
      @e4r281 Před 5 lety +2

      this channel is legend

    • @sslim29205
      @sslim29205 Před 5 lety

      All legit channels get free Nvidia cards....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  • @PorscheRacer14
    @PorscheRacer14 Před 5 lety

    LOL that dig at the Verge was great, haha

  • @mike65587
    @mike65587 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for this, excellent video. I was going to buy an FE to put a water block on, won’t be doing that now!! Have to look at an AIB card

  • @viktors_anfimovs
    @viktors_anfimovs Před 5 lety +81

    Nvidia is just screwing around guys...

    • @chriswilliamson9030
      @chriswilliamson9030 Před 5 lety

      FINE TAKE YOUR THUMBS UP THEN

    • @nameinvalid69
      @nameinvalid69 Před 5 lety

      a lot of screws indeed~

    • @lesliegrace8360
      @lesliegrace8360 Před 5 lety

      "Screw in with confidence" - Stefan Etienne 2018

    • @Gun4Freedom
      @Gun4Freedom Před 5 lety

      I believe someone may have just won the dad joke of the day award. I am glued to my spot in anticipation.

  • @Basti5792
    @Basti5792 Před 5 lety +29

    Nvidia is "screwing" us.

  • @GrulbGL
    @GrulbGL Před 5 lety

    yes, it is about how much you care about the details what tells what you came for.
    proud to be sub.

  • @murrayjamieson9502
    @murrayjamieson9502 Před 5 lety

    Great advice "Buy a Table, Dodge a bullet" Love it !!

  • @superbibibobo
    @superbibibobo Před 5 lety +25

    Hey GN, I was wondring what prevents graphic cards and mobos from being reused as platform. For example, what prevents manufacturers from making something like a socketable chipset, or a socketable GPU or RAM? what's due to unforseeable change in the technology, that renders the platform obsolete, and what is just planed obsolence? Tons of perfectly fine hardware go to dumpyard every year and that's kinda sad.

    • @TheWastelLp
      @TheWastelLp Před 5 lety +4

      Good question!

    • @seymoronion8371
      @seymoronion8371 Před 5 lety

      Might want to also change the way the Rear Panel I/O connects to the motherboard, as those ports will eventually wear out. Perhaps some kind of Headers along with screws/bolts.

    • @seymoronion8371
      @seymoronion8371 Před 5 lety

      I wonder how well a die shrink of an Athlon XP (Socket A) would fare.
      IIRC the original was about 130 nanometer, and the fastest one ran at about 2.2 GHz.
      Pretty sure it used DDR I 400...

    • @stanimir4197
      @stanimir4197 Před 5 lety +2

      The simple answer is greed and the other one: inability to standardize. Having a standard VRM (any phases of your choosing) + RAM slots and mountable cooler would allow not to bother and replace the GPU mostly. GPUs would need more versatile memory controllers as well.

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax Před 5 lety +1

      It's cheaper to produce a BGA chip and solder it with the rest of the components than putting it on a LGA/PGA package, adding a socket and require a machine or a human to mount the chip. The only way a socket is valuable in term of costs for the manufacturer is when the same PCB design is shared with a line of products.
      So yeah there is greed but only when price and space aren't a constraint.

  • @theandroids
    @theandroids Před 5 lety +9

    Thank you. If I was to ever get one, I won't be getting this version. You're telling me in 2018 they cant make card shrouds that clip apart easily for servicing?

  • @Dave-ct1jk
    @Dave-ct1jk Před 5 lety

    I'm really glad it was you guys doing that and not me. But thank you for doing it

  • @MrSandmanxxxx
    @MrSandmanxxxx Před 5 lety

    As always thanks for the info great work there

  • @TCGView
    @TCGView Před 5 lety +61

    Sweet Christ. I guess if you can avoid getting the FE card and go with a partner card, do it.

    • @NoobGamer-ix2mr
      @NoobGamer-ix2mr Před 5 lety

      Too bad, I've already pre ordered it, and out of luck to cancel it and take AIB card instead without waiting for months for availability.

    • @vidyamancer7135
      @vidyamancer7135 Před 5 lety +6

      Why? Because it's hard to disassemble the vapor chamber? 99.9% of owners won't. It's far higher quality than most custom versions.

    • @rhela7150
      @rhela7150 Před 5 lety +16

      I don't think the use of glue to hold it together is exactly a sign of quality. Although I do agree with the first part of your statement.

    • @NeoNoggie
      @NeoNoggie Před 5 lety +10

      This thing actually looks like its extremely well made. The glued down part was clearly just to avoid using screws on the top face in the black part. It's not a sign of being cheap. I still wouldn't buy it because its way too expensive, but to imply its cheaply made is silly.

    • @Robocopter_fpv
      @Robocopter_fpv Před 5 lety

      B and H has A FTW Ti available

  • @MunkeyChips
    @MunkeyChips Před 5 lety +27

    17:00 Awwwwwwww sheit! I anticipate some absurd, jerry-rigged water cooling! Maybe a voltage mod, too? I can't wait!!!

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety

      Why would they do that when EK are already selling water blocks?

    • @sneakeyboard8305
      @sneakeyboard8305 Před 5 lety +4

      ....for science....

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 5 lety

      I miss the times where you could just flash a custom bios with all the changes you need.

    • @MunkeyChips
      @MunkeyChips Před 5 lety

      Yeah, I remember Buildzoid complaining about the voltage being locked down. Pretty lame move on Nvidia's part.

  • @bavarianblessed
    @bavarianblessed Před 5 lety

    So now that you know where the glue is, next time heat it directly with the gun (mask the surrounding areas with foil if needed) and use a heavy suction cup to pull the top off. Thanks for trailblazing Steve!

  • @directmiss
    @directmiss Před 5 lety

    I know it's probably different from what you guys usually do, but I'd love to see you tear that Verge video apart.

  • @chomerly
    @chomerly Před 5 lety +3

    The thing that would piss me off with the tear down of the cooler would be if you needed to replace those fans in a few years. If you could get direct replacements for them, the process to get them swapped out would be a massive ball ache.

  • @Frenerth
    @Frenerth Před 5 lety +27

    Real question .. how to enable the rgb led ? :p

    • @ChimmyxChang
      @ChimmyxChang Před 5 lety +7

      The best part of the video for me was finding out about the RGB. My rig is all blue LEDs and while green is nice and all I really like my blue color scheme. Would be nice if my $1000.00 GPU could match the rest of my lights. Especially when the Founders is more expensive than the other RTX cards most of which already have software to customize the RGB.

    • @FlyingFireFighter
      @FlyingFireFighter Před 5 lety

      @JosieCat I bet it caused an issue with the performance of the GPU so they had to pull the RGB--- Maybe the controller broke it.

    • @sailtovictory8244
      @sailtovictory8244 Před 5 lety +7

      Flash the bios to an EVGA XC ULTRA and install x1 2.7 and bam you can control the rgb, look up a vid on how to flash the bios and do it at your own risk, i did it and it works on my 2080 FE

    • @sirtiter9649
      @sirtiter9649 Před 4 lety

      @@sailtovictory8244
      Does it work perfect for you? or do you have a problem

    • @SwazNasty
      @SwazNasty Před 4 lety

      @@sirtiter9649 you figure this out yet? 🤔

  • @RidiculumIneptus
    @RidiculumIneptus Před 5 lety

    At my work (wholesale cellphone repair) we have paint spreading tools (like the ifixit spudger but thinner and longer) that would be perfect for sliding under that thing and cutting though all the tape, without damaging anything.

  • @oninogato7626
    @oninogato7626 Před 5 lety

    I love your videos. You're so honest and i like it. thumbs up

  • @PrincessTS01
    @PrincessTS01 Před 5 lety +10

    so its 80 screws for the 2080, jesus! but it's where board partners can save money at!

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce Před 5 lety

      There are 16 screws on the underside that Steve did not remove.

  • @xWood4000
    @xWood4000 Před 5 lety +105

    The Verge has finally taken down the video with a statement.
    "Last week, The Verge published a video on how to build a gaming PC. Today, we’re pulling that video off our CZcams and Facebook pages, because it contains some minor factual errors, that, in sum, do not meet our editorial standards. I also want to reiterate that The Verge has zero tolerance for internet harassment campaigns, and we will automatically disregard any feedback that appears to be in bad faith or part of such a campaign. As many of you know, we are happy to engage openly with our audiences across our platforms, but over the weekend multiple people on our staff have been subject to a wave of attacks, including hundreds of racist attacks on the host of our video. We simply will not listen to feedback that is associated with these campaigns or the people who direct such campaigns.
    We’ll eventually make another video on how to build a PC. It’ll be good. See you out there. "- Nilay Patel

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 Před 5 lety +6

      "Last week, The Verge published a video on how to build a gaming PC. Today, we’re pulling that video off our CZcams and Facebook pages, because it contains some minor factual errors, that, in sum, do not meet our editorial standards. I also want to reiterate that The Verge has zero tolerance for internet harassment campaigns, and we will automatically disregard any feedback that appears to be in bad faith or part of such a campaign. As many of you know, we are happy to engage openly with our audiences across our platforms, but over the weekend multiple people on our staff have been subject to a wave of attacks, including hundreds of racist attacks on the host of our video. We simply will not listen to feedback that is associated with these campaigns or the people who direct such campaigns.
      We’ll eventually make another video on how to build a PC. It’ll be good. See you out there." - Nilay Patel

    • @JamesSmith-dn8lb
      @JamesSmith-dn8lb Před 5 lety +95

      Lol "engage openly with our audience" Means disable comments.

    • @alecjenrrymclaughlin4179
      @alecjenrrymclaughlin4179 Před 5 lety +6

      @@xWood4000 Thanks. The video was a disaster.

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 Před 5 lety +4

      @@alecjenrrymclaughlin4179 You're welcome. Yeah it was, I don't get how they didn't catch it before it was released.

    • @alecjenrrymclaughlin4179
      @alecjenrrymclaughlin4179 Před 5 lety +65

      Also the Verge needs to understand everyone online get harassed. Disabling comments and dislikes just demonstrates they can not take criticism and their feelings are easily hurt.

  • @MegaPartyVan
    @MegaPartyVan Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this tear down, I need to do a fan replacement and I would be woefully unprepared for taking off that plate

    • @Paulicek1
      @Paulicek1 Před 2 lety

      Btw even the fan connectors are glued too on that PCB 6:46 .

  • @robertsnyder4963
    @robertsnyder4963 Před 5 lety +2

    The more I'm seeing of the FE cooler, the more I'm digging it! Lots of aluminum, very little plastic and nice looking backplate. Depending on the noise and thermal performance, I'd be tempted to go Founders Edition over an AIB card. To be fair, the blower-style FE coolers looked awesome but the thermal/acoustic performance was usually subpar compared to AIB cards...

  • @ryanmanuel8470
    @ryanmanuel8470 Před 5 lety +16

    I just installed my 1080ti on the floor under my desk. Should I reslot it on a table? Wanna make sure I do that right.

    • @frankdees4354
      @frankdees4354 Před 5 lety +3

      Build my 3k pc on a board with mod mat on my bed. No desk required :)

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety +5

      Bruh I once built a 6 grand SLI water cooled loop (soft tubing though) on the floor.

    • @dude3278
      @dude3278 Před 5 lety +3

      Make sure you install it in carpet, otherwise it won't work properly.

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety +1

      I took my socks off so its fine.

  • @SplitRensonator
    @SplitRensonator Před 5 lety +10

    Its worth noting that ball bearing fans are much higher quality and reliability than standard sleeve bearing fans. That was a good design choice.

    • @alexisleftist778
      @alexisleftist778 Před 5 lety

      SplitRensonator. Not enough to justify 80 screws and industrial adhesive

    • @intovein3474
      @intovein3474 Před 5 lety

      not FDB fans on 1k$+ card :/

    • @skybuck2000
      @skybuck2000 Před 5 lety +2

      Disagree, sleave bearing fans are serviceable, they can be cleaned, re-oiled and then they are good as new, saving many bucks and the pain and time wasted on buying new ones and waiting for delivery !

  • @greengohm
    @greengohm Před 5 lety

    Steve seems happier than usual. Guess, it's the new studio that makes him so happy :)

  • @blackburd
    @blackburd Před 5 lety

    That's a seriously overkill heat gun. The point of the glue is to void the warranty when you open it. Love your videos. No one does in depth information like this anymore. (except you)

  • @aomine6817
    @aomine6817 Před 5 lety +5

    Steve brought his hairdryer to work

  • @grumpyoldman3597
    @grumpyoldman3597 Před 5 lety +5

    new drinking game, take a shot for each screw... will take you a week to watch the video... I think this card alone now demands a "screw counter" in the corner of videos to make a point, and the counter can forever link back to this video to show why the counter exists... how fun...

  • @CoCo.-_-
    @CoCo.-_- Před 5 lety

    enjoyed this video looking forward to future videos to see what you do with these cards it seems you also did not like this at the end you are sweating lmao not surprised xD

  • @b-rant
    @b-rant Před 5 lety

    Jesus you are a trooper. I would have definitely stopped at getting the cooler OFF and then chucked the thing into the wall or smoked the vapor chamber vapor due to losing my mind. I nearly lost it putting a hybrid cooler on my old 680 reference card.

  • @madfinntech
    @madfinntech Před 5 lety +7

    4:20 LMAO! That was funny! Hahah!

  • @connor040606
    @connor040606 Před 5 lety +3

    Steve, Do you think the RGB support is disabled through the software/firmware side or was it due to the wiring setup? I think it would be interesting to see Nvidia have RGB enabled for the cards logo.

  • @StopaskingformynameYouTube

    Steve: next time you want to remove something that is glued or in this case double sided adhesive, put it in the freezer over night, then get some isopropyl alcohol to drip along the edges of where you're going to pry, the cold will make the glue less flexible and the alcohol will simply creep along the glueline loosening it for you.
    I use this trick when removing things all the time and you don't even have to pry hard before the glue simply just gives up.
    the alcohol will also let the glue work after it evaporates.

  • @WWNSX
    @WWNSX Před 5 lety +1

    When ifixit makes their teardown video, I hope they give you guys credit.

  • @Pastechi
    @Pastechi Před 5 lety +7

    another reason why not to get FE...
    Man i love these video's

  • @ralph1940
    @ralph1940 Před 5 lety +38

    50 Nvidia employees aren’t happy about this video.

  • @QTM1981
    @QTM1981 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for going through these steps to show what it would take to replicate. My heroes.

  • @guarand6329
    @guarand6329 Před 5 lety

    Nice teardown! I love your videos, usually a fair amount of usable, good knowledge in them. (Sometimes you take too long to get to the point, but its a good journey). As far as cleaning, all you need to do is blow air in from the top or bottom of the card, looks like it would go right through. Using the glue really sucks though. I haven't had fans die on a video card since the radeon 9800pro days (other than cheapie brands used for added displays only), so not super worried about that if I had bought one. I kinda like the sturdy design, fully metal enclosed (save for the glue). That heatsink is pretty impressive.
    Too bad you were going to use the card for something else, guessing water block. I was curious if it would work after reassembly.
    Thanks again!

  • @paulvenn4447
    @paulvenn4447 Před 5 lety +27

    Literally no reason no buy a Founders Edition now

    • @WhiteoutTech
      @WhiteoutTech Před 5 lety +4

      @@kelvinfriedchicken eh nvidia always used the most minimalistic vrm setup. the only cool thing was the shroud

    • @paulvenn4447
      @paulvenn4447 Před 5 lety

      @@kelvinfriedchicken you can get mini TI's, I have the Zotac 1080 Ti mini in my Silverstone ML03

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 Před 5 lety

      The question is, what do we do no if we need a card with a good quality blower cooler now?

    • @paulvenn4447
      @paulvenn4447 Před 5 lety

      SteelSkin667 Buy an AIB card

    • @blackknight50277621
      @blackknight50277621 Před 5 lety

      I love the looks of the 10 series FE. They're sexy af
      This gas stove tho...

  • @tobybowers6990
    @tobybowers6990 Před 5 lety +9

    Nvidia best pull there finger out there arse and give us control for that rgb.

  • @SexyTerrorisT
    @SexyTerrorisT Před 5 lety

    Great job!

  • @cmdrflint9115
    @cmdrflint9115 Před 5 lety +1

    Interested to see a thermal comparison between the founders versions vs evga's thick xc ultra cards, vapour chamber vs massive heatsink.

  • @martindarlington3862
    @martindarlington3862 Před 5 lety +6

    Nightmare! what a job! not good, sticking with my 1080ti - great videos 1 and 2 thanks for both videos

    • @mordiggian2730
      @mordiggian2730 Před 5 lety

      a new card coming out does not imply that you have to get it, especially if you have one of the fastest cards that exists already, get a grip on yourself kid

    • @lilkwarrior5561
      @lilkwarrior5561 Před 5 lety

      WTF, what a moronic conclusion. AIBs exist for a reason.

    • @lilkwarrior5561
      @lilkwarrior5561 Před 5 lety

      dennis That’s a lie; a 2080TI was designed for 4K & the first single GPu card to legit play 4K without compromises at high frame rates-even more so over time as DLSS takes off

    • @dennis-br6vr
      @dennis-br6vr Před 5 lety

      lilkwarrior and also this card is already running hot without ray tracing enabled. just wait till people start testing and running this gpu with ray tracing.. it wel be a motherboard melter all over again just like the gtx 480 was.
      but yeah the backplate is so thic that you can even cook on it. the power draw is also nuts, and yeah the insane power draw is without ray tracing so like i said already the power draw will be even higher.
      i am not gonna buy these overpriced and overhyped cards untill the prices become normal and when the power draw becomes normal.
      i also dont give a fuck about ray tracing because i only focus on high framerates.

    • @dennis-br6vr
      @dennis-br6vr Před 5 lety

      you are nuts if you really think that the 2080ti is wort the insane amount of money.
      and btw the 2080ti is about 20% stronger compared to the 1080ti, but it does almost cost twice as mutch.
      and nobody wants ray tracing if they have to play at 1080p to even get 60 fps.
      shadow of the tomb raider didnt even get 60 fps with ray tracing enabled on the rtx 2080ti, it ran at about 45 to 50 fps.
      just admit that it is too early for ray tracing. these gpu's are simply not strong enough to run ray tracing at a nice resoution and framerate.
      but yeah go ahead and spent a shitton on money on a gpu that is completly overpriced and runs hot as fuck.
      meanwhile i wil enjoy my cool and silent running asus strix 1080ti on a nice asus rog swift 1440p 144hz ips screen with hdr.
      look a thousend times better compared to the retarded 1080p 60fps XD

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 Před 5 lety +12

    The comments were wrong?! I for one am shocked! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!!
    Nah but really, I'm not surprised at all, especially when half the comments were "LUK UNDER DA THERMUL PADZ 4 SREWZ" even though it was clearly said in the video that all the thermal pads were removed and no screws were found under them.

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety

      Computer channel comments are typically the worst of any channel.
      Full of fan bois from both sides of each discussion spreading lies they just pulled from their ass to justify their point of view, and remember their point of view is the ONLY point of view.
      And everyone has a degree in mechanical engineering and computer science.

  • @foxchris509
    @foxchris509 Před 5 lety

    Great content on this channel

  • @jordanholliday9163
    @jordanholliday9163 Před 5 lety

    Look how useful that mod mat is now those screws are so organized

  • @lootplx
    @lootplx Před 5 lety +12

    In conclusion: If you want to mess with the fans of your new RTX cards, don't buy nVidias refrence cards.

    • @lootplx
      @lootplx Před 5 lety

      For sure. Though I think you're pretty much just better off picking up a card that has a built in waterblock if you wanna go for the full watercooling build. I mean, manufacturers at this point have to realize that there is certainly a market for it. Picking up a reference card, just to remove the stock fan, to then spend another $200 to get an aftermarket waterblock just seems fucked. Then again, as I'm writing this comment, I can't find a single model of the 2080(TI) cards that has a stock waterblock. So I guess their in bed with EK... sucks for the consumer.

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety

      KlohsCalls, yeah no.
      No on doing a custom loop is buying a pre assembled water block card. Unless EK/Alpha cool started selling them.
      I think you must have bever built a high end water coooled PC, because no Nvidia are no in bed with EK, this is just how it has been for years.

    • @lootplx
      @lootplx Před 5 lety +1

      I might've made myself unclear. Not built in as in: Stuck to the PCB. More like a package. Instead of getting the fan setup, you'd just get the waterblock. I.E, manufacturers save a buck & consumers save a buck. The quality would obviously have to be better. It just seems dumb to me at in 2018, the new generation of GPU still does not have the option to ditch the fan & get a waterblock instead.

    • @mememachine7973
      @mememachine7973 Před 5 lety

      Ohhhh I see, so sort of like EK as a AIB? Terrible idea, how would I test the card before putting in it in a loop?
      There will never, and never should be cards that come wit only water blocks. For the stated reason.

    • @lootplx
      @lootplx Před 5 lety

      How would you feel about just getting the PCB? w/o the cooler for a reduced price? To adress your first question: No, you can't really test it without putting it in a loop. But you'd think that with warranty & thorough testing on the side of the manufacturer sending the card would've done so before sending the card. You are after all paying for a premium product worth literally thousands of dollars. Do you really have that little faith in nVidia, EVGA & other GPU manufacturers?

  • @matthewfennell7886
    @matthewfennell7886 Před 5 lety +8

    Heat up the plate, stick a suction cup on and pull?

  • @kaddasixseven3581
    @kaddasixseven3581 Před 5 lety

    nice banter against verge. amazing 4:20

  • @DormantGames
    @DormantGames Před 5 lety

    I always wondered what I'd need the suction cup for in the toolkit. Now I know! Heat gun the metal plate to weaken the glue then use the suction cup to pull it off :D

  • @The_Major1337
    @The_Major1337 Před 5 lety +5

    20$ worth of screws but not enough for 4 more for the black glued plate....

  • @azioprism3635
    @azioprism3635 Před 5 lety +7

    *Nvidia enigma Tear-Down*

  • @Molochkai
    @Molochkai Před 5 lety

    That "The Verge" stab xD

  • @ryan.6594
    @ryan.6594 Před 5 lety

    12:07 "I do have another card, actually I have several cards.. so we're all good" THE BIGGEST FLEX OF 2018

  • @bear5016
    @bear5016 Před 5 lety +5

    Just glue it!

  • @ricardoabh3242
    @ricardoabh3242 Před 5 lety +5

    You did try the Linus methods?
    Drop it ! 🙃

  • @ZorinInc
    @ZorinInc Před 5 lety +1

    Holy Hell!! And I was planning on ripping that crap off and putting a water block on there. I might just get one with a water block preinstalled.

  • @synthbent715
    @synthbent715 Před 5 lety

    Thank you Steve, you're doing the Lord's work here.