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@@Steellmor How do you catch a cold from a cool pillow, does the technology promote bacterial growth? or is this statement nonsense you pulled out of your ass
@@iMRM-ez8of I'm assuming it's because they believe it could function like sleeping with an ice pack the size of a pillow which could lower your body temperature overnight and might make you more suceptible to illness? At least, that's the only thing I got.
@@carlosalmaguer1550 the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness. "he suffered from bouts of insanity" synonyms: mental illness, mental disorder, mental derangement, madness, insaneness, dementia, dementedness, lunacy, instability, unsoundness of mind, loss of reason;
For those wondering why the pads perform worse than the paste; although the pads have a *much* higher thermal conductivity rating, they are much much thicker (more material the heat has to pass through) than the tiny squished dot of thermal paste. You should take care on what GPUs you use the pads because their thickness may lessen pressure contact on VRMs.
should try the carbonaught pad on the radeon 7, the pad would be better used with anything that has HBM due to the fact that the core is usually at a different height than the HBM
I tried out the Intel Graphite pads which is pretty much the same as this except it gives better transfer performance but I went back to paste it covers more consistently especially if the transfer plate and the die doesn’t match up perfectly. Also worth considering is that the GPU is not held down as tightly as the cpu and vibration over time could cause the pad to move out of place.
Hmm......... So this Thermal Pad is only "As Good" as Thermal Paste except with the pads they are suppose to have an Lifetime expectancy as the paste will eventually need to be replaced. I think I might still give this a shot on an AMD R9 390 to see what happens.
Please try the carbonaut on the radeon vii since its high current draw and weird junction temps at stock.. Nice hair btw lol ahah keep up with the great work!
Hey man, think a little about it, you're wandering why there is not a lot of videos showing this on gpus, well the main pro of this cooling solution is that you can swap the cooled components/ the cooler on the component, easily and without throwing away anything, so for cheaper. But for gpus, swapping often gpu coolers is quite uncommon, and swapping gpu dies is even more uncommon, that's why it's kinda logic to have mainly videos testing these on cpus, that much more people swap or use to test different coolers.
@@lamarmottedesinternets5134 i do agree on your reasoning, but one point is that if you do put a custom block on a gpu, the last thing you want to do is replace the paste, and you can reuse it for next upgrade
@@Tallnerdyguy hmmm, yeah you're right didn't think about custom watercooling, it's true that you don't want to disassemble your whole loop just to do that.
@@joshuascholar3220 i think the problem lies more on the surface area. Thermal paste can fill the microscratch that may exist on the cpu, while the pad can not
Don't use the pads with watercoolers. I happen to know a lot about this and how electrolysis occurs. There are some videos around electrolysis most videos are about fish aquariums but the same physics apply.
I been trying for a few days to get a 38x38, but I can't seem to find anywhere that has them in stock in the states. Do you know where I can order one? I am tempted to order the TR one, and cut it to size, but would like to save money if I can and get the right one.
@@YaviOld Yep, that I've done. 1st thing always with new motherboard is to take out southbridge cooler and replace stock bubblegum with thermal paste. That tip was just for Brett as he said he wasted a good pad, as it's not big enough anymore for CPU, but is plenty big for X570s.
I was tempted to do this too because my build would be relatively long term, I don’t want to be disassembling my custom loop until I can get a huge performance uplift by swapping hardware. Change coolant sure but not change hardware. Unfortunately carbonaut just wasn’t actually possible to buy for too long so I went with kryonaut. Depending on what kind of longevity I get from the kryonaut this still might be where I end up a few years down the line.
@@ShinyRayquazza I tell you what, I didn’t know what I was talking about. I did build my dream rig in 2019 and watercooled it with PETG hardline tube, big rads tons of fittings etc. The thing is you have to drain and clean your loop eventually so the thermal paste endurance is not a concern for watercooling, despite Der8auer openly admitting Kryonaut is a “relatively wet” paste so it will only give peak performance for a year or so. So bottom line don’t worry about it for watercooling.
this is funny as this is the only video I could find which is the question I was asking as pad just brings up memory pads and I wanted to know if it would be better for my 4090 as my paste keeps failing and hot spot delta keeps rising
I think I'll stick with my kryonaut, I don't really see the point in something that is supposed to have a much better thermal conductivity on paper but ends up with the same or worse performance in real world application. That and cost isn't all that great. I can do multiple applications with the tube that costs around the same price anyway.
You only have to buy the Carbonaut once and it lasts forever. That works out very much cheaper than multiple applications of thermal paste over the years.
@@Safetytrousers It would take probably 5 or 6 applications to use up the tube of kryonaut. That's at least 6 years. Still won't really work out to be much cheaper, and that's assuming the person doesn't accidentally damage that carbonaut. I mean, I can see how someone would be happy with it, but it's not worthwhile to me. Especially given that it doesn't do quite as good a job.
Every time I see a reviewer messing around with one of these things they always use their fingers. Is finger grease not an issue with these things? Will that not effect thermal conductivity?
Was cutting the pad really necessary? I've never had one so I don't know, but who cares if it drapes of the side of the die a little as long as everything can be securely refastened?
The pad is electrically conductive, it could short out what ever electrical it touches and therefore needs to be trimmed to the proper size before use.
UFD TECH - cool man - in this video you looks really awesome - you looks more like gaming character from CyberPunk 2077 game :) Nice video, Bro! :) You could do even more interesting stuff - you could change your style for every video as some awesome very popular gaming character, that would be very nice to see! You need some neon line lights behind of you in your room where you are filming, it could possibly could looking awesome as well! :)
I used this carbonaut pad on my 5700xt and it literally fucked up... gpu became extremely unstable and crashes instantly when i run a benchmark test like timespy as it performed at least 20 degrees hotter than my mx4 paste. And no this is not about mounting pressure. I squeezed the shit out of that pad and still made no difference. I had high hopes mann. Im seriously disappointed. Someone please explain why this does not work for a 5700xt but its totally fine on a 2080ti?
Anyone thought of coloring in the the contact point on the heatsink and cpu with a graphite pencil before applying a thermal pad? I have a hunch that it would help fill gaps but no idea if it would help thermals.
I'm not gonna tear apart GPU's every few years so...carbonaut all the way. I care more about longevity than few % of performance. I'd argue that pre-built PC's should also come with carbonaut as well. It's unlikely that person who buy pre-built will go and change thermal pastes.
My car speakers don't like your voice apparently. I had to unplug my phone for the hissing and overblown sound to go away. Weird. Like the test though. Wish they could have made the pads a smidge thinner for better performance though.
Kevin Eldridge didn’t they have to use pads because the HBM and the Die were not even I can’t remember? Also would performance increase if someone put a good paste on it instead just curious
Hopefully you didn't get any oils on it from your face when you smelled it. I would imagine that could alter your results. This video is a great idea, and super interesting for an long time builder.
Hello Pro... i has a question...??? if i buy a 1660Ti vga.. and future i buy one more 1660Ti ... anything.. if working ... it's good .. but i do not know , if i am playing game , is two 1660ti better then one???
To be honest with you I don’t believe in these, the reason why we put on thermal paste, is to fill the „uneven“ surface (non perfect surface) Most people also put to much thermal paste on it, there should be still metall to metall contact between CPU and cooler So the problem is, it doesnt fill the gaps perfectly, but it fills them slightly and has better thermal conductivity. The liquid metall is genius, it fills the mikroscopic gaps better and is a really good conductor, another plus is, you cannot overdose it, meaning there will be metall to metall contact between cooler and CPU, because if you overdose, it will squeeze out of the sides, and fuck up your electronics. So remember, apply only very very very very very little bit of thermal paste (so the cpu is just about covered)
i'm sitting at 26C and on 43C on full load , but under air ! But also having a super jank, four-slot cooler on my GPU :D a Raijintek Morpheus II paired with two 120mm nocuta's ^^
Good video BUT! lol, the thermal pad thickness 0.5, 1.00, 1.5mm etc is as important as the other dimensions, You didnt really take this into consideration in your tests.
Cringe everytime he touches the pad with his oily fingers, and there was visible debris on the pad when he applied it to the heatsink. Dang that was sloppy, and likely reduced the pad's heat transfer capacity! :|
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What type of case is that sir?
Could they maybe adapt this technology into pillows? Imagine a pillow you don’t have to rotate o_o
it's called cooled pillow.Also there were talks that because of it you can catch a cold.
Steellmor I think it would depend alot on where you live but you got a point about the cold still
Lol both of you won the internet today
@@Steellmor How do you catch a cold from a cool pillow, does the technology promote bacterial growth? or is this statement nonsense you pulled out of your ass
@@iMRM-ez8of I'm assuming it's because they believe it could function like sleeping with an ice pack the size of a pillow which could lower your body temperature overnight and might make you more suceptible to illness?
At least, that's the only thing I got.
your haircut always reminds me of the FC3 villain
Do you know the definition of insanity?
@@carlosalmaguer1550 the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
"he suffered from bouts of insanity"
synonyms: mental illness, mental disorder, mental derangement, madness, insaneness, dementia, dementedness, lunacy, instability, unsoundness of mind, loss of reason;
@@thebook5458 agree
Vaas
Are you talking about Ninja?
I like the mohawk seriously. It gives you character bro. Keep it up for your son. I like your videos. Great job!
@@Solidinius_Snake Exactly :P
He should also stretch his ears and get a few face tattoos
@@surelock3221 okay just no 😑
25 seconds in im smiling to hear about the money raised, agreed.
For those wondering why the pads perform worse than the paste; although the pads have a *much* higher thermal conductivity rating, they are much much thicker (more material the heat has to pass through) than the tiny squished dot of thermal paste.
You should take care on what GPUs you use the pads because their thickness may lessen pressure contact on VRMs.
I hope they keep progressing with this tech. I'm not a huge fan of Thermal Paste so I'm excited for this in the future when its standard practice.
Brett is so thankful he didn't have to get a butt tattoo :P
I bet you're supposed to use gloves for the install. No doubt the oils in your skin aren't great for performance.
@@conyo985 you mean zip ties?
@Jamesy Garfield You severely underestimate how many substances come out of your clean hands naturally.
@Shit Kicker do what? Do you realize that person is essentially saying the exact same thing?!
In this video~ Yondu from Guadians of the Galaxy takes apart a 2080ti
What is that theme being displayed on the monitor? I'm actually curious it looks really cool
should try the carbonaught pad on the radeon 7, the pad would be better used with anything that has HBM due to the fact that the core is usually at a different height than the HBM
It came with a thermal pad already
@@Tallnerdyguy stock pad is adhesive and gets damaged if you remove the cooler.
The height difference was a problem with old vega 56 / 64 chips
R7 and new v56 and v64 chips have molded packages
I tried out the Intel Graphite pads which is pretty much the same as this except it gives better transfer performance but I went back to paste it covers more consistently especially if the transfer plate and the die doesn’t match up perfectly. Also worth considering is that the GPU is not held down as tightly as the cpu and vibration over time could cause the pad to move out of place.
stick the carbonaut on the GPU/CPU with Kryonaut paste .... just a little paste , see how that runs :)
Yes,i wonder the same thing,but would be better with liquid metal.
It would be nice to see this testing, but on the Radeon VII.
IIRC the Radeon VII already uses a graphite pad. Not Carbonaut, of course, but still does.
Agreed, I am especially interested for results when putting a waterblock on the Radeon VII.
@@constantinefrank1800 the factory pad gets damaged if you remove the stock heatsink and so needs replacing.
@@Kathdath then don't take off the stock heat sink and you won't need to replace your perfectly fine thermal paste.
Hmm......... So this Thermal Pad is only "As Good" as Thermal Paste except with the pads they are suppose to have an Lifetime expectancy as the paste will eventually need to be replaced.
I think I might still give this a shot on an AMD R9 390 to see what happens.
Please try the carbonaut on the radeon vii since its high current draw and weird junction temps at stock..
Nice hair btw lol ahah keep up with the great work!
Ps. Radeon vii uses the same 31x25mm pad
thanks for showing the size details on the pad. i wasn't sure what size to get. that really helped me out alot.
"He may have been your father boy, but he wasn't your daddy"
I like how you mounted your two GPUs in that computer although let them breathe without the glass panel that has no gills to let in any air.
Hey man, think a little about it, you're wandering why there is not a lot of videos showing this on gpus, well the main pro of this cooling solution is that you can swap the cooled components/ the cooler on the component, easily and without throwing away anything, so for cheaper. But for gpus, swapping often gpu coolers is quite uncommon, and swapping gpu dies is even more uncommon, that's why it's kinda logic to have mainly videos testing these on cpus, that much more people swap or use to test different coolers.
They do use them at stock for radeon 7, due to height of hbm not being same thickness
@@Tallnerdyguy interesting, I didn't know
@@lamarmottedesinternets5134 i do agree on your reasoning, but one point is that if you do put a custom block on a gpu, the last thing you want to do is replace the paste, and you can reuse it for next upgrade
@@Tallnerdyguy hmmm, yeah you're right didn't think about custom watercooling, it's true that you don't want to disassemble your whole loop just to do that.
Handles the pad without gloves or tweezers, is not impressed when the results are worse than using regular thermal compound. Sure, why not?
thanks
Everyone gets that result though. They have longevity advantages but it's thicker than properly applied paste, so the results are slightly worse.
@@joshuascholar3220 i think the problem lies more on the surface area. Thermal paste can fill the microscratch that may exist on the cpu, while the pad can not
Don't use the pads with watercoolers. I happen to know a lot about this and how electrolysis occurs. There are some videos around electrolysis most videos are about fish aquariums but the same physics apply.
Carbonaut is useful for when you don't want to use good paste, like when testing 20+ CPUs, because it's re-usable. THAT'S IT.
Which case is that? Looks amazing
I been trying for a few days to get a 38x38, but I can't seem to find anywhere that has them in stock in the states. Do you know where I can order one? I am tempted to order the TR one, and cut it to size, but would like to save money if I can and get the right one.
Cut the pad in half and you might get just about right size for couple of X570 chipsets, will blow away what ever they got stock under there.
VRMs are not glossy and are shortable - don't do that :)
@@YaviOld Chipset silicon, not VRMs. X570 die is about the size of GTX960.
@@onboard3 ooh i actually missread wow - i'm sorry
but then as the surface is anyways glossy and the cooler likely is tight
Just use thermal paste
@@YaviOld Yep, that I've done. 1st thing always with new motherboard is to take out southbridge cooler and replace stock bubblegum with thermal paste. That tip was just for Brett as he said he wasted a good pad, as it's not big enough anymore for CPU, but is plenty big for X570s.
Where did you find the 38x38 pads?? I've been looking everywhere as I have an AMD cpu. Seems like all I can do is cut down a larger pad.
2:38 What did you just call me?
I was tempted to do this too because my build would be relatively long term, I don’t want to be disassembling my custom loop until I can get a huge performance uplift by swapping hardware. Change coolant sure but not change hardware. Unfortunately carbonaut just wasn’t actually possible to buy for too long so I went with kryonaut. Depending on what kind of longevity I get from the kryonaut this still might be where I end up a few years down the line.
Hey, 3 years later, how did it hold up?
@@ShinyRayquazza I tell you what, I didn’t know what I was talking about. I did build my dream rig in 2019 and watercooled it with PETG hardline tube, big rads tons of fittings etc. The thing is you have to drain and clean your loop eventually so the thermal paste endurance is not a concern for watercooling, despite Der8auer openly admitting Kryonaut is a “relatively wet” paste so it will only give peak performance for a year or so. So bottom line don’t worry about it for watercooling.
I wanna try those on my coil stove to see an improvement of heat transfer
this is funny as this is the only video I could find which is the question I was asking as pad just brings up memory pads and I wanted to know if it would be better for my 4090 as my paste keeps failing and hot spot delta keeps rising
Can you test it on the Radeon VII?
Im fairly sure the Radeon 7 comes with something similar stock
Everything Feline you’re fairly wrong
@@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69 at 6minutes 37 secs in btw
It already comes with one at stock
While it comes with one, it often gets damaged when removing the heatsink as it is adhesive, and so requires replacing in many cases.
It will be better when the next gen Carbonaut comes out. Tried to catch which paste was already on the 2080 Ti; was it Kryonoaut.
What case is that? I’m wanting to do a 2 system set up like that with intel and AMD. Thank you and enjoy your videos and big prayers for your kid man
David Robertson phanteks enthoo elite
you can also use corsair obsidian 1000d for a dual system build
Chiken Nuget thank you!!!
dude the mo-hawk looks sick!
That's watts per milli-kelvin.
Where did you get your pads? Im in potch and cant find anyone to order some for me yet
Just make sure that the batch of kryonaut has been ground enough, as there have been issues of CPUs and coolers getting scratched.
Not really useful comparison without ambient temps, but they are good
Wait, so the pads outperform the Kryonaut by roughly 4x in terms of heat dissipation? Shouldn't it be outperforming at least stock paste then?
@@WayStedYou Ah, thanks.
where do i find his desktop background ?
up
why don't u use the licky method to apply the carbonaut? it is the best way to do it!!
I bet he used some thermal paste for that hair
do u have thermmal pad thickness for 2080ti ? use what size?
The thumbnail looks really nice
I think I'll stick with my kryonaut, I don't really see the point in something that is supposed to have a much better thermal conductivity on paper but ends up with the same or worse performance in real world application. That and cost isn't all that great. I can do multiple applications with the tube that costs around the same price anyway.
You only have to buy the Carbonaut once and it lasts forever. That works out very much cheaper than multiple applications of thermal paste over the years.
@@Safetytrousers It would take probably 5 or 6 applications to use up the tube of kryonaut. That's at least 6 years. Still won't really work out to be much cheaper, and that's assuming the person doesn't accidentally damage that carbonaut. I mean, I can see how someone would be happy with it, but it's not worthwhile to me. Especially given that it doesn't do quite as good a job.
Hey, what happened to the studio?
Every time I see a reviewer messing around with one of these things they always use their fingers. Is finger grease not an issue with these things? Will that not effect thermal conductivity?
Was cutting the pad really necessary? I've never had one so I don't know, but who cares if it drapes of the side of the die a little as long as everything can be securely refastened?
The pad is electrically conductive, it could short out what ever electrical it touches and therefore needs to be trimmed to the proper size before use.
@@JQB45 Thanks. Definitely good to know.
UFD TECH - cool man - in this video you looks really awesome - you looks more like gaming character from CyberPunk 2077 game :) Nice video, Bro! :) You could do even more interesting stuff - you could change your style for every video as some awesome very popular gaming character, that would be very nice to see! You need some neon line lights behind of you in your room where you are filming, it could possibly could looking awesome as well! :)
I used this carbonaut pad on my 5700xt and it literally fucked up... gpu became extremely unstable and crashes instantly when i run a benchmark test like timespy as it performed at least 20 degrees hotter than my mx4 paste. And no this is not about mounting pressure. I squeezed the shit out of that pad and still made no difference. I had high hopes mann. Im seriously disappointed. Someone please explain why this does not work for a 5700xt but its totally fine on a 2080ti?
Anyone thought of coloring in the the contact point on the heatsink and cpu with a graphite pencil before applying a thermal pad? I have a hunch that it would help fill gaps but no idea if it would help thermals.
Wait that is a FE 2080Ti??? 83 degree at 1850MHz???
Why is my EVGA Black Edition one reference model hitting 1900MHz with 72 degree???
Carbonaut isn't as good as decent thermal paste, but it doesn't deteriorate over time
I'm not gonna tear apart GPU's every few years so...carbonaut all the way. I care more about longevity than few % of performance. I'd argue that pre-built PC's should also come with carbonaut as well. It's unlikely that person who buy pre-built will go and change thermal pastes.
You should have measured the ambiant temp before both test and reported the GPU temp minus ambiant.
My car speakers don't like your voice apparently. I had to unplug my phone for the hissing and overblown sound to go away. Weird.
Like the test though. Wish they could have made the pads a smidge thinner for better performance though.
So many shots with the Radeon VII in frame, but nary a mention that it has a thermal pad on the GPU from the factory...?!?
Kevin Eldridge didn’t they have to use pads because the HBM and the Die were not even I can’t remember? Also would performance increase if someone put a good paste on it instead just curious
Very interesting video. I just wish the Carbonaut did a little "better" than paste instead of little "worse".
In two years it will perform better then any paste since paste is prone to breakdown, cracking and drying out.
Where can I get the wallpaper for the desktop? 😄
Please tell me what case are u using for the pc
Where can we get the nvidia/intel moving wallpaper?
Hopefully you didn't get any oils on it from your face when you smelled it. I would imagine that could alter your results. This video is a great idea, and super interesting for an long time builder.
that peek-a-boo killed me :D
Replaced the stock paste on my old GTX960 the other day as it began idling at 56 celcius, now it's 30-31 and doesn't hard reset with overheating.
Which thermal paste r u using
@@nextgengaming171 9 year old tube of MX-4, the old paste hardened and spread away from the chip.
Hello Pro... i has a question...???
if i buy a 1660Ti vga.. and future i buy one more 1660Ti ...
anything.. if working ... it's good ..
but i do not know , if i am playing game , is two 1660ti better then one???
You can't use 1660tis in SLI
No one:
Brett: We're doing surgery on a 2080Ti!
To be honest with you
I don’t believe in these, the reason why we put on thermal paste, is to fill the „uneven“ surface (non perfect surface)
Most people also put to much thermal paste on it, there should be still metall to metall contact between CPU and cooler
So the problem is, it doesnt fill the gaps perfectly, but it fills them slightly and has better thermal conductivity.
The liquid metall is genius, it fills the mikroscopic gaps better and is a really good conductor, another plus is, you cannot overdose it, meaning there will be metall to metall contact between cooler and CPU, because if you overdose, it will squeeze out of the sides, and fuck up your electronics.
So remember, apply only very very very very very little bit of thermal paste (so the cpu is just about covered)
'Why Didn't Nvidia Think of This?!?' - Because why would they.
What about past on ether side of the pad
how do you make your dekstop wallpaper moving?
Godsend for laptops?
Lol, I actually thought of this as soon as a discovered this product about a few days ago. (While trying to plan budget fanless PC build.)
Nice product we use it at our lab.... reusable 😍😍😍
No surprise. The pad may have great conductivity, but it's also a lot thicker than paste, so everyone gets the same result.
where can i buy the black computer desk that you have?
South Africa
@@Tallnerdyguy nice. I live in South Sudan. Possible road trip to get the table.
@@jamesking1812 he did a video, i think ftw were the initials for the desk
My GPU has a very nice EK block on it and is sitting at a comfortable 27C at idle. :D
Also I am using conductonaut on it.
i'm sitting at 26C and on 43C on full load , but under air ! But also having a super jank, four-slot cooler on my GPU :D a Raijintek Morpheus II paired with two 120mm nocuta's ^^
Please tell me you don't plan to keep the mohawk.
Let's hope he doesn't keep it.
Shit, the blue mohawk looks good on you, man
This could be amazing! The future is looking bright!
Wonder how this would be on the Vega 64.
Test on laptop CPU & GPU.
how is that you live/work on South africa and ufd is affliated whit amazon from USA?. nice prices, still the shipment is a no no for me.
Probably because most viewers are in the USA. Same reason most channels quote USD pricing on parts.
Carbon Pads aren't reusable as they are very fragile and can tear from tension.
Yes but if they dont tear they are reusable.
@@vetamauromihali yeah, and if thermal paste didn't dry it is also. :|
@@ERrnesST hmm, didnt thing of that xD. That's true.
SWEET BROHAWK!
2:27 THANKS. Why does nobody do this.
His haircut look like that one dude from guardian of the galaxy
*I'm merry popins yall*
What is going to happen if you put it on your cpu ?
Works great without mess
Good video BUT! lol, the thermal pad thickness 0.5, 1.00, 1.5mm etc is as important as the other dimensions, You didnt really take this into consideration in your tests.
is that hawk from cobra kai!?
The carbon pad is a lot thicker than the paste, that's why the pad is a little worse dispite having a higher W/K
Also is uniform in thickness, which is good and bad
Your a great dude, what you're doing for your son. I'll buy you a beer 🍺 if you're ever in HK!
who's like old ufd tech hair?
So... more money, no gains, and now its electrically conductive...
what the hell ithought the 780's die was massive for a gpu like wtf
Just a GRAPHITE pad and a GRAPHITE thermal pad
does he have a notch on his top??
Can these retrofit and replace thermal pads?
No.
Wonder how this would be on the Radeon VII due to the HBM
It comes already installed on R7
Hope your kid is ok, if you start another charity event where you cut that stupid thing off, I might donate.
Cringe everytime he touches the pad with his oily fingers, and there was visible debris on the pad when he applied it to the heatsink. Dang that was sloppy, and likely reduced the pad's heat transfer capacity! :|
I am getting geeky Toy Story 1 vibes lol.