The #1 DWV Plumbing Mistake (and how to prevent it).
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This guy is doing the Lord’s work, I tell ya... what an incredible resource.
I know right! He's amazing
Wow! This is among the best-produced and thorough youtube videos I've ever watched. I'm preparing (watching lots of videos and reading plumbing books!) to replace my entire DWV stack and the bathroom fittings in my 1920 house. As soon as I can scrape together $50 for your ebook, I will definitely buy it. Again, great video.
recently corrected plenty of these mistakes in a house a bought and currently doing a full house remodel. as well as added more venting. Before they decided that the waist pipe going from upstairs to down stairs needed more venting so they just drilled 3/4 inch holes on top of the pipe... you cant make that shit up. they tried to make the upstairs sink and shower drain uphill into the main which of course doesnt work. They used Ts instead of wyes or combos, used short radius 90s instead of long radius, ran to small diameter piping in places and went from 1 1/5 down to 1 1/4 from a banch to the main. found several joints incorrectly mated. decided glue was all it needed. lacked true supporting of piping which had sagged over time. a lot of which wasnt noticed until you removed the 3 foot of insulation off of it, or pulled the drywall to see it. Or well lack of drywall and more paneling. Even the domestic water was a mess, PVC main, switch to cpvc to copper back to cpvc, back to copper. ripped it all out except the main, added a true main shut off inside the house back at the point it comes out of the ground. I know some will boo and hiss, but i went with pex as a replacement. In union commercial construction anyway. Most of the guys were telling me why not copper, pex isnt real plumbing. I said The price. Im doing it out of pocket, copper is nice and i dont mind it when im not paying for it. but I couldnt justify using copper in my house do to the price. so I went with pex and used the copper crimp rings vs the stainless pinch ring. No shark bites, ive seen those fail to offend. I have used the caps for temporary while testing or getting some plumbing working to at least have running water. I was going to use a pex manifold but for this house i couldnt justify the cost of one. but none the less i did install isolation between upstairs and down stairs as well as a shut off before and after the water softener and water heater. Might be over kill but if something happens i want to have control quickly.
There's a saying about the person that did the plumbing before you, "They know enough to be dangerous". Lacking Common Sence.
This is the first video of yours I've seen, fantastic information and providing things free is above and beyond, sir. Thank you and Godspeed Mr. Spitz!
Thanks. I was getting ready to convert a single sink drain into a double and I think you just saved me a headache.
No matter when you recorded this video; it will always be relative as long as there is “PLUMBING “!
I Am going to use this info.
Now!
Thanks for posting this - best I've seen so far. I'm not a plumber, but I like to know what's going on so I can make sure work is done right when plumbers do it, and for easier tasks, when I do it.
Awesome! Laymans description of what to use. This will be quite helpful when I get to the plumbing portion of my house build.
Former Montana state plumbing inspector, it would be nice to see more videos like this. So many homeowners wanting to do their own work get it wrong and wind up spending three to four times the cost. And when in doubt, call your local inspector. They are more than happy to come out and look and it WON'T COST A DIME! Better to be safe than have a real mess in the end.
based this is the way
Most inspectors are to nice, so most people don't reach out. I did some plumbing on my house. Had it inspected, it wasn't vented right. I asked him what was wrong and how to fix it. He said I ain't your contactor and walked off.
@@cfg7523 yep.. moral of the story, hire a professional plumber so it won’t cost you time and having to do it all over again in the future.
Here in va inspectors cost a TON of money
i’ve seen a couple of videos from out east were inspectors are helpful and come by to help you as you go. I did not have that same experience here in Kansas. I actually made a CZcams video with a rant about the inspectors.
As a master plumber in Colorado and Washington I stand by this video. Thank you for giving folks this info.
Master Plumber in WA?
B-boo Duffy my apologies that some of us don't have all day to sit here and type the exact names for their licences for you. I'm a contractor in Washington state, I hold a C36/C20 in California, and am a Master plumber in Colorado. Currently working in Colorado Springs. Would you like my blood type as well?
Username checks out. All I need is your shop's name.
The Whole Truth and Nothing But ... combo ... Journeyman Plumber here .. peace ✌️
Matthew AZ boy same to you brother
The National Standard Plumbing Code used in New Jersey allows short pattern fittings to be used in horizontal to horizontal changes in direction. But only for individual fixtures.
Can you make more videos please? I'm an apprentice plumber and your videos are the best I can find.
I have been doing plumbing for 56 years, with the last 38 of those years working for myself in Australia as a licensed plumber, roof plumber, drainer, gas fitter and LPG installer
I have seen many changes in the industry, some not good but most were.
As an apprentice, I spent 5 years studying, 3 years to become a journeyman and 2 years of advanced plumbing to become licensed.
I began with earthenware drainage pipes joined with cement, copper for hot and cold water, with copper wastes into cast iron stacks in multistory buildings. Also galvanised steel pipes for gas lines.
Today, almost everything is in plastic.
The worst is that a plumber today is more interested in the money than the job.
Most of them think of a plumbing license as a license to print money.
Even though as I am approaching 72, I still work part time as a licensed plumber.
I like it too much to give up completely.
There is some differences with what we call the fittings.
For example; a sanitary 'T', we call an 88° square junction.
We don't have "a combo wye and 1/8 bend", we just add a 45° bend to a 45° junction.
We never use fractions to describe any fitting, only ever the degrees that it is, that reduces confusion.
Our sanitary bend fittings come in 5, 15, 30, 45, 60 and 88 degrees.
Kenneth Lyneham mi
Wouldn't the only 88 degree fitting be a sanitary tee?
Marti a....your comments and attitude is exactly why there are very few goog tradesman any more. They take it on for money and not a lifetime vocation. I'm a carpenter joiner and will never retire from learning more about my trade. More power to the dude still on the tools at 72. You see i know where he's coming from.😀😎
Martin Allen The man enjoys what he does.When you love what you do it isn't work.
Kenneth Lyneham
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I swear our computers are listening in on us, only last night my neighbours emptying of her bath tub resulted in much gargling in my bath waste. Her dad is a plumber! and ever since he made an alteration in her bathroom my bath drain is noisier, To cut along story short, it woke me up, the computer must have heard my rantings and low and behold just the following day the 'potential' answer, come source of my troubles is most likely in this video. Thank you for posting, so nice to hear from people with a really professional outlook and conduct. I do a bit of plumbing myself sometimes so I am without doubt taking on board what you have said.
As a drain tech I thank you for this, I hope an installer learns from this. One other thing that is code that I wish wasn't is the use of double wyes. A sewer cable has a very difficult time with making the turn. It almost always goes straight across unless there is a length of pipe between the wye and 45. Usually they are put in with street 45s into the wye or are part of the fitting itself. I have watched on camera cables going right across these fittings. I have also watched waste getting deposited up into the opposing branch after a toilet flush. The waste is pushed up and is left there as the water drains out. If the branch that is receiving this waste doesn't get used much it will eventually become clogged from the other branch line. This was a serious head scratcher for us until we actually witnessed in on video.
You actually gave a really cool explanation. Thank you.
Perhaps you should start a CZcams site showing your camera views of such issues as you come across them. Maybe you will be the next CZcams Star.
Great video. You showed us handymen important complex information in an easy to understand way. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Amen Hammerpedia! I've been cleaning drains & sewers for over 30 years. You are dead on. Nothing more frustrating than a tee when there should be a combo or wye.
I recently cleared a bathtub line where the homeowner did his own plumbing. He said he couldn't get the trap to line up with the tub drain, so he built a "360 degree loop" followed by a p-trap. My stomach sank. This was in the basement with a concrete floor.
Getting a 1/4" cable through it was hell, but with lots of persistence I got the cable through and into the main sewer. The water drained great. There was just one problem.........I opened the back flow prevention device (it was about 5 feet away) and I saw the cable in there. Problem was, there was no water coming through. Hmmm. That means the pipe broke under the concrete.
Sorry mister homeowner, but if you don't know how to plumb, this can be the result.
Last I knew, he was jack hammering his basement floor.
Thanks for the video.
The item you are referring to is a Backwater Valve for drains.
A Backflow Preventer is for potable water.
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Useful information. In short, when in doubt, use the largest radius bend that you can fit in the available space.
Old Builder here (72) and it makes me chuckle to see how many "master plumbers/inspectors/pros...." comment here after watching! :-) You figure they wouldn't need to be watching any of this on YT, right? haaaaa.... Me...I just like pretty pictures :-) Thanks for the show!!
I'm remodeling a bathroom and find this video to be of great help. Thanks for posting.
I am an apprentice but Ive ran into this a lot surprisingly, Im glad my boss taught me up on the subject
Exactly what I found under my house that’s clogged🤦♂️ Great video-answered every question in minutes!
Great job. You have a really good voice for narration. Very clear and articulate.
Thanks Peter!
I immediately subscribed to your channel because of the informative code and extra details in your video,
Thank you so much for your time and efforts sir,
God Bless.
Thanks Dylan! I could have saved myself a failed rough-in drain plumbing inspection had I seen this video first. :) I just received your free PDF download cheat sheet for this. Thanks! I got the impression it was going to be more than what you showed on the screen during the video, but I like it and saved it for future reference nonetheless! Looking forward to more videos! :)
Thanks Tom!
Thank you very much for the information, just moved to a house with this problem, toilet so closeto a T that waste backs up!!! now I now how to solve the problem
Thank you! I am turning a washing machine drain into a shower drain and appreciate this info :)
I wish I could do videos like this. I save your videos to show Construction apprentices that get assigned to my big jobs.
Thanks for sharing this. Great information. As a plumber for 35 years, I tell inspectors all the time to call me if this line backs up so I can watch a maintenance man pull a ceiling cleanout plug for a stoppage on floor above. He responds and said "It's the code" and I say "don't forget to call me!" Lol
I don't get it. Obviously you have to be a plumber. Something is code but stupid nonetheless?
Lisa O'Donnell oh indeed it is! In CZcams now watching music vids, saw your notification! Lol I'll send you a video of why ceiling clean outs shouldn't be used.
Can't find video of apprentice pulling plug from cleanout on floor below stoppage but it's classic.
Why would anyone pull a main line clean out plug inside of a building. I've been in the business for well over 40 years. I'm not sure I've ever pulled an inside clean out. Go outside and open the outside clean out. Run the snake back towards the building. 99% of the time mains do not plug inside a building anyways. The weight of the water will push anything you can put down a toilet clear out of the building. What stops up then. Is roots, broken pipes, pipes don't plug unless the waste has something to hang up on.
I don't always turn 90, but when I do I use a long sweep! Keep it long my friends!
Hey thanks for taking the time to do this. Awesome information!
Watching this as I'm driving back with the sanitary tee to do the job. I guess I'll turn around and take you back. Thanks for clarifying
Heck with 90's use all wye and 1/8 bends with a fitting clean out on back when there's room in your own home the future accessibility is great
This is why I always call a pro for larger projects
In San Diego we just shit in the streets. Toilets are for the millionaires.
Cfass1 in Michigan we shit in the woods.
This is for directional flow having to do with drain cleaning. I believe it’s still code in my area to use a double wye but if it were up to a lot of local plumbers they would make them illegal to use , either above or below ground.
Thank you for this easy to follow advice !!
Trick I learned from a Australian plumber years ago. Have to install a toe tap tub waste on a slab? With plastic tee,boot and overflow? Lay a piece of plywood on the floor and tack a piece on the studs. Use a pencil to mark the plywood through the holes. Then, pull aside the tub, make your measurements, using your marks. You'll never have a boot too low or too high. Same with the overflow.
Very well explained on waste vent piping and sweeps..Thank you
Henry, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I try to make these tutorials short and sweet!
Not talking about venting! Talking about moving shit!! And shit don't move in a vent,! Just air
Anyone running DWV, should have these basics in the forefront of their minds when slinging pipe
Congratulations, I am soon retiring too,it's a journey that challenges you everyday, good luck.
That's why we have plumbing codes and inspections.
Today is the last day of 41 years of doing plumbing. And it's not like I took time off to do something else. Too bad. All that I've learned in that time will now disappear into the mist. It will have to be learned by a newby all over again. Nobody is interested. Mistakes will be made, over and over. And the clients will bear the brunt. The march of time.
richard wysham So ypu did it wrong for 41 years?
Yeah, That's right. I can retire as a plumber, but a Bitch is a Bitch forever
Richard, thanks for your 41 years of service to the plumbing industry!
richard wysham make videos!
Thank you,Sir.
Thank u for the video u made it very simple to figure out what to use in this application
Gr8 vid … Thx for your time, effort and energy in putting together this concise informational video. Kudos.
Cheers,
I purchased the course and it is excellent.
Thanks Roy!
Thanks Dylan! Big up to you sharing when the people!!!!🌺💚🔥
Hi sir Dylan. Thank you very much! your videos helps me a lot to do my job right hence I am fixing my own house plumbing.
Virgillo, you are welcome. Best of luck on your plumbing project!
if you are watching this video to learn plumbing may i suggest buying the illustrated plumbing book. also attend a class about backflow. Find a plumber that has years of experience doing residential and commercial construction. Check with your local utility and see if thay have seminars on heating. Learn about controls regulation venting and venting.
Hydroponicist here and I found this very enlightening but not usually what I do with PVC pipes.
Most of the problems are back flow and or sucking the P trap dry. I agree with your video. However I would do a back up video of why these codes exist. To explain proper venting, back flow or P trap safety. Such as keeping out sewer gas and the reason these codes exist to prevent future problems, or dangers of not having proper flow, vrs suction. Good video by the way. I believe the more people understand why these codes exist, the more likely they will follow the codes. ;)
Great points Chris.
Or if you want to do the plumbing...go get trained properly maybe? Stop relying on the professionals to make free videos on how to.
Dan Bedard
He clearly stated in the video that even professionals are guilty of making this mistake. It helps to have some cursory knowledge of these things so you can potentially spot an error that is being done on your house. It also could keep the help honest and in top form if they know the person understand the basics
Dan Bedard You've been making this mistake, that's why you came here to get educated! LMAO
Or they can just follow this or do ur 5 year apprenticeship like most do
I've worked in both UPC and IPC areas. I always preferred the UPC due to its higher standard (fewer allowances.)
This is great info and it’s nice to have a short to the point presentation but it leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Does this formation also apply to ABS? Does this formation apply to only certain diameter pipe?
After observing failure after failure during inspections of master plumbers installations/ rough-ins, I’ve just come with a few simple rules that guarantee avoidance of most issues. In the case of this video, the rule is simple: NEVER use a sanitary T in drainage except in a vertical orientation at a trap arm connection. No need to learn all the do’s and don’ts when following one rule is all that’s needed
Everything depends on what your code book in your area calls for.
Makes sense, thanks
I am plambar in India . You. Are knowledge is very good.
This was very helpful and thanks for the information
Hello Dylan, My question is, Is it allowable to drain a toilet toward the front and have venting coming from behind?
As a Master Plumber & Gas Furnace Installer in Scotland, I 100% approve of this video. It's the same over here.
;)
Thanks for all this great info
very nice vide. the descriptions of why it is you cannot use the sanitary tee will help people remember.
Thanks Kenneth!
Not all Codes. I'd suggest reading The National Standard Plumbing Code (IAPMO) 2.3.1a 2 Short radius fittings may be used in the drain piping of an individual fixture.
This is especially the case in apartment buildings where clogs and buildups are far more inaccessible in many cases and a snake trying from horizontal drain trying to go down a T , is really frustrating ,even with a floating head on the snake why oh wye didn't they figure this stuff out long ago
Very cool of you to prepare a video on this. Thank you!
You bet!
Thank you for the very valuable information.
0:20 Every tract home in my town is plumbed like this, the left being from the kitchen and the right coming from the washer in the garage. Every house has problems and all have back ups in both. Plus a 1/2 inch ONLY drop in 40 ft. of line. LOL My job, inform and replace for money. Tract homes will keep plumbers busy for years to come.
Indeed, workers just haphazardly build your house anyway and close it up, people have no idea how crappy a lot of builders are but the phrase "lipstick on a pig" comes to mind.
Thanks for the free guide brother! God Bless!
Thanks!
Very cool short, informative vid. Ty!
Thank you so much. Amazing video
Incredibly knowlegeble video.
Many Thanks!
Great info, many thanks!
Thanks! I was able to use this information when I plumbed my brother's bathroom. I put up a video to show how I was able to DIY with confidence now that I know how NOT to do it.
Thanks Hammerpedia, legend
Thank you man !!!
Always have a 45 degree angle dumping TOWARDS the drain flow to prevent blockages!
Thank you for such helpful in depth info
I've had this argument many times with my Foreman that we need to use sweeps instead of 90's. In Georgia its common to use 90's. I think the reason my company and foreman are so cool with using 90's is that they cost less, but I also feel its because they've always been new construction plumbers and not service plumbers. They don't realize how much more of a pain in the ass a 90 can be to snake a cable through. A sweep is much easier to service.
Going from a new con plumber to a maintenance plumber, I agree. Though we would use long sweeps where applicable in the code.
I thought sanitary tee joints were primarily used in venting applications.
I'm a ga GC, and caught that instantly...
a sweep is a 1/4 bend! 90's are technically not a callout for drain fittings per code books!
Get away from those Ratty non-union plumbing shops in the South. If you work in a union shop, you learn how to do things correctly. Thnx.
Thank you so much, I need this information!!
New Jersey has it's approved codes online free pdf as laws in the state. NJUCC gives the plumbing codes to National Standard Plumbing Code. The right year's is listed as law and can be read.
Glad I found your channel.
And then there was the crew sent out by ServiceMaster that made up a drain line with a santee in the reverse direction! But at least they were consistent. They also hooked up the bathroom supply lines to the old, abandoned iron piping!
Highly precious material, in most condensed, best-presented format.
Congratulation to put such great content in such a short and valuable clip.
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Excellent information! You sound so much like Owen Wilson. I love it.
Glad you found it helpful.
basic stuff......
Thank you. I have a house infrastructure is coming up the road and I want to be ready to connect. Anyone please let me know about where i need to be with depth in relation to public works. Thank you.
I really appreciate this. Thank you
Great video thanks. Very helpful!
Thank You! Thank You !Thank You!
greetings from Indonesia, very useful. Thank you
You can never lay a sanitary tee on the side era where you're from but you got to use PVC pipe schedule 40 or foam core depending what city
Thanks Owen Wilson!
Now that you mention it...yeah, he does sound like him!
Thank you very much for you sharing this important detail.... thumbs-up have a wonderful day....!
You are welcome Liberty Tires. Have a good one.
I'm so glad that I live in an area that doesn't have any building codes. No added expense, and no problems.
Michael Michael ...... Talk about an oxymoron.
Do I need a vent or wet wall directly behind the closet flange? And can I tie in a shower drain to that same line and if so do I need a separate vent? Thank you
Nice video! Thanks for sharing
Waooooo super cool video!!!
And very simple to understand 👏👍
Is it possible to plumb a whole house interior with schedule 80 (gray pipe) with all the various bends?!?! I saw a video of a high end home being built and they said it was being done there as more of a sound deadening material but I hadn’t heard of it before.... Thanks
thank you very much for this tip
Would this be the same for a drain to a leach field? I notice people are using the sanitary tee to save money instead of a distribution box
good tip. Thanks for sharing.