The Manipulation Of Mini Ladd - A History Of Lies | TRO
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- The Right Opinion: The Manipulation Of Mini Ladd - A History Of Lies | TRO
00:00 | Part 1 - Intro
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07:24 | Part 2 - Mini Chadd
14:13 | Part 3 - Mad Ladd
21:58 | Part 4 - Mini Gladd
27:56 | Part 5 - Mini Dadd
35:20 | Part 6 - Mini Cladd
42:28 | Part 7 - Mini Fadd
52:02 | Part 8 - Mini Cadd
1:01:05 | Part 9 - Mini Sadd
1:09:08 | Part 10 - His Apology
1:21:45 | Part 11 - Mini Gadd
1:30:58 | Part 12 - Mini Ladd
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1:39:23 | Part 13 - Outro & Credits
Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to The Right Opinion, the home of a twat with too much free time, and the past, it’s a strange thing, and one that, in times like these, we probably long for more than ever.
Although I do relate to this sentiment, more than you can possibly know, I likely wouldn’t take anyone other than the person that I am today, minus the chronic health issues of course. Yes, if we can transpose the current version of ourselves to past scenarios, then that’s the choice that many would probably take, it would have likely saved me, and others, from unnecessary disputes and distress, however, at the same time, without many of those past scenarios, we probably wouldn’t be where we are today. In many ways, it’s a paradoxical conundrum, and the best you can do is be thankful for your present wisdom.
As internet dwellers we tend not to talk about our possibly tainted backstories too much, because other people have a nature to be quite judgemental, and if that’s not who we are today, then what right do people really have to know. However, it’s almost always important we keep the past in mind, because if not, we may be destined to repeat it, and for many people that’s the last thing we want. With this said, there are some who will repeat it regardless, whether they know it’s wrong or not, and for those individuals, well, we may have to be a bit more vocal in how we reprimand them. This is especially true if those individuals hold a relative amount of influence as say, I don’t know, a CZcamsr, with dedicated fans, probably serving as a role model to a fair proportion of them. What about when said drama involves your followers? Well then, let’s discuss today’s topic…
Gamers unite, yes, we are once more heading back to that corner of CZcams to set the backdrop for today’s discourse, and we’ll begin by talking about one of the titans of the gaming community, Vanoss.
Evan Fong, also known as VanossGaming, is a creator who posts montage-style content of him and his friends playing a variety of video games, on paper, it sounds fairly unexceptional, but the editing, and interplay between Fong and his comrades has garnered widespread attention from viewers, establishing his channel as a cornerstone in the CZcams gaming subculture that has flourished in the past decade. On his channel, he would feature a retinue of creators who would aid that back-and-forth energy that buoyed his content, this roster would evolve over the years, but one individual who became a pretty regular fixture on the channel during the mid 2010s was a gentleman by the name of Mini Ladd.
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last time I checked being a child groomer isn't a symptom of depression
Exactly what I was thinking
Ooooo that's good comment
Honestly it seems like whenever creators sexually harass/groom people they use the depression card to pardon any questionable behavior.
Every online personality that has been outed as groomers have used that as an excuse, like it absolves them of any wrong doing.
@@SneedBass Sometimes I feel like Jimmy Savile would have used that excuse if he hadn't died before his crimes were outed.
i loved mini as a kid. to bad he would have loved me back
😂 oml
This comment wins lmao
The one time I DON"T want someone to love me X,,,D
He'd have loved you like a Minecraft youtuber would.
@@NotNitehawk just like one 😂🤣🤣
I have never seen a creator try so hard to be like Markiplier without having any genuine charisma or genuine niceness. Small man really is something else
That is the most succinct way to put Craig’s entire career tbh
He was actually really entertaining back when he could bounce off of the group in the 2014 era. But when he left the Vanoss crew his content went so far downhill and his career suicide culminated with him being outed as a manipulative groomer p*do.
It’s honestly really depressing if you look back at those 2014 videos now
@@zenwave1051 I found his channel through his Cards Against Humanity videos and those were holarious because it was a group of friends just fucking around. But I never subbed because by himself he was always kinda boring.
Yup, if he was actually a nice dude but not that funny it wouldn’t matter. It would be nice to watch. Like theradbrad
@@zenwave1051 tbh Mini himself in Banana bus group is not that entertaining though not as bad as Ohm.
Think about the fact that Jenna Marbles made a longer, better and WAY more sincere apology over getting the wrong tank for a fish, than Mini Ladd’s apology over literally being a kiddie fiddler. That’s sad.
Looks like he deleted the apology videos and is back to uploading like normal. Too bad CZcams likes pedophilia so he is still on.
"Kiddie fiddler" 16 and 17y olds that are able do professional job being discord admins and depending on country and state able drive, have sex legally and be prosecuted in court as adults. Given already mentioned wide range of age of consent where that age range is on upper end and having seen how youth acts amongst them selfs acting often more mature than 25y olds, i dont think this get anywhere near pedo territory. How about treating people and checking how developed they are as individuals, instead of grouping them and going with lowest common denominator? Same with perp in question, lookin into context.
In minis case sure i agree his manipulative sociopath, but his arguments are rather solid and i dont see issue with the relationship on it self, other than famous vs fan dynamic.
@@Hellsong89 no way you are defending a pedo. Some of the girls were 14
Miniladd joined islam so he's okay to do that
Only in islam
@@TxrtureXV wtf r u talking about
Poor Vanoss, the guy has his name thrown around so much, you’d think he was actually involved in he drama lol
genuinely hope he's not a child predator because I used to watch him a lot when I was younger and he was always entertaining but you really cant be so sure
edit: Im not referencing ohm's shitty pissy self
just hoping something new doesnt come to light or something
@@landencarr5443 he's not ohm is just making up a bunch of allegations against his friends cause he's mad that nobody will play with him.
What up with ohm?
@@gentleophidian did they stop playing with him because of how he acted or other reasons
@@therosejoker3685 yeah lmao
If TRO ever gets exposed or anything, I want him to make a video on himself.
"I don't know,
I don't think I was that bad?"
I mean there was that thing with QuintonReviews, but he shortly after on addressed that.
@@dpray96 what thing?
@Stellvia Hoenheim well yeah, TRO is a true gamer after all.
@Stellvia Hoenheim isnt he gay?
what's funny is, if you ever watched "To Catch a Predator" with Chris Hansen. Like literally 95% of the predators say things similar to Mini. "I was depressed, my mental health hasn't been good, I was lonely, I was in a dark place, I wanted to just talk to someone, etc."
Yeah aloot of predators always go with the "I'm depressed/lonely" route like mini and edp did
@@bb8buddygaming1103 I can't be a pred hunter because tbh I'd just be like 'you finding the strongest beam in your house would've been a better choice. Do. It.'
I'm sure those predators really honestly are depressed and lonely. What the pedos don't seem to understand is that being depressed and lonely doesn't give you a free pass to be disgusting.
@@coinwater8511 Yea true true, though real talk that's where we do always say there is a mental illness wrong with them. Though you do have some who have bad intentions...
@@daredevil48 I think the main difference between those with & without bad intent is that the ones with bad intent usually act on their desires.
It's not hard to willfully be a virgin or just stick to consenting adults & mental illness doesn't change that.
as someone with clinical depression who’s attempted to commit, i’m so tired of people using that as an excuse to do terrible things, it’s bs and helps further stigmas around mental health.
@Sleeping Quest It's not an excuse to rape a child. Raping children isn't a 'cry for help'.
I've struggled with suicidal thoughts off and on for years. It's been a "two steps forward, one step back" type deal, as I've made slow progress but i regress sometimes. There was a time when the only thing stopping me was the pain I would cause my little brother and my parents when they found me. I can't imagine actively weaponizing my mental health struggle against them to get what I want. Not in a million years.
@Sleeping Quest Ah yes, it's not mature to say raping kids isn't a cry for help. The self hatred must be strong if you hate when people agree with you. Or you're just fine with kids being hurt and you're only virtue signaling.
@@sleepingquest8734 Please read your own comment & notice that it's gibberish.
@D_YellowMadness the comment says "not including this guy" so it's saying that Miniladd is excluded and this is not a justifiable cry for help
"After all this time, they're _still_ playing GMod?"
Yeah, 'cause they're busy being friends with one another, not with minors.
Oof
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@@ayosteezchill7486 _E x a c t l y_
Ironically they barely touch Gmod anymore.
@@TheLastRaven6 Hope they do again as a "f*ck you" to Mini Ladd.
Y'know, this could've all been avoided if Mini Ladd didn't show his Mini Ladd to Mini Lads.
Or Mini Lass' as they say Ireland
lmaoooo
This could of been avoided by not constantly trying to lie out of his ass. A twenty year old even talking to a sixteen year old is only illegal on Twitter. If that’s all this was about it would just be another dumbass callmecarson situation. But this was very different than the callmecarson situation
@Jacob yeah your right it was a sick joke dawg
@@CarlosianBigWang it was a pretty fire joke
Mini ladd's most recent and more "sincere" apology has now been deleted from his channel. I think it contributes to the narrative that he's just waiting for the naysayers to back away so he can avoid shining a light on his actions
and hes returned the moment youtueb removed the dislikes and has been rebuilding a new potential audience of viks ever sense never even taking a break for even a YEAR after what he did when carsons til hasnt come back even after the whole internet admitted he did nothing wrong out of guilt.
He did the exact same thing during the drama with Terroriser, as soon as he took it to the DMs, his next video came out where he just straight up lied "Oh yeah, Brian and I are talking and fixing things up and it's really nice to be friends with him again!"
Only for the next Terroriser stream for him to go is just "Yeah, no. We aren't talking whatsoever, I think he just says things to get his audience off his back." Which is really damn accurate to what he has been known to do, I mean clearly he was pissed about being known as part of the Vanoss crew but kept walking it back each and every time.
Even nowadays, I'm certain he actively moderates his comment section to remove any mention of what he did. Only thing that remains are people saying he did something or sociopaths not caring a pedophile is cultivating a group of children to idolize him.
how many apologies has he done so far jesus… every few months he comes back with a new apology and when it doesn’t work he slithers away and tries again another time
@@housewilma4904 hopefully, some of these kids stumble into this type of video after getting recommended it from YT for watching Mini’s content 😂
Lol not gonna happen, the vanoss crew just keeps making jokes about him, bringing back what happened. And i sure as hell won't let people forget either
Mini Ladd is a perfect example of a king or queen that had it all. Friends, fortune, fame, and notoriety. He even had a stadium in his hometown named after him. But he flew too close to the sun and let his ego take control and as a result pissed away everything.
It wasnt his ego that took control but his chode and it quite literally pissed everything away LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
That and he also liked teenagers
Yeah wouldnt call kid-ophilia flying to close to the sun rather than the burning pits of hell
This particular sun I feel like most people would rather be flung into the actual sun than approach in any way
People forget that having it all, doesn't mean you were a good person who fell from grace; rather, a potential predatory person who chose to put themselves in a position to get what they wanted.
It's common with many industries, sadly.
"I dont want to be remembered as 'that guy who plays with Vanoss'"
no Craig, you'll be remembered as 'that guy who abandoned Vanoss'
Poor Vanoss, all of his friends are being outed as horrifying people :(
@@Zomz.graveyard Who else was a bad person?
@@Zomz.graveyard Wait who else was bad
@@HerbNanny currently lui and ohm, but delirious is receiving backlash too
Who is a freak and a creep who chases after younger girls lol
the time stamps lol
Lol
Daddy diesel ?
Lmao
You came back from getting milk?
All of them are jokes on Mini Ladd except "His apologies" lol
I've loved the Irish Lads for a while now, so seeing Brian and Daithi in a TRO vid was a shock. I'm glad they were on the mature and collected side of things.
yea same. I was originally very scared tbh
Hey, fellow Irish Lads fan lol! I've followed Brian and Daithi's channels (and now their joint channel) for years, so I already knew about their involvement in this, but I was happy to see TRO be as fair and unbiased as possible when presenting the issue. Personally, I felt kinda bad for Brian during that time, it was obvious how much the whole thing was getting him down. Even now he looks so uncomfortable and irritated when Daithi and the others talk about Mini Ladd.
@@CaseyTyler357 nah if anything it’s moo who gets uncomfortable brian just lets it fly at this point😂
i’m sure it was such a shock seeing brian and daithi in a video about mini lad. completely unrelated content creators, what a crossover.
@@ethanwest420He understandably gets uncomfortable about it because-unlike the other crew members-Moo is a Dad (so are H20 and Lui if I recall) and I’m betting he’s just trying to keep himself from becoming pissed off because he rightfully wants to just go back to having fun and move on from that. It feels almost involuntary, but as a Dad, you get into a mean and cold state where you just want to step away from everything or go punch something repeatedly when you hear stuff like that.
Especially if one of them happened to once be a friend who could’ve gotten away with this their whole life. MiniLadd probably held Moo’s newborn kid back when they didn’t know about his evil schemes. Imagine the rage.
Craig has actually deleted his "apology". He's trying to bury everything about this situation, hoping what's left of his fanbase don't know what he's done
He can never fully erase what he did. There's archives and documents with all the evidence of what he's done.
This is unrelated but I don’t think I’ll ever understand how parents have a new baby, marvel at the new life they’ve created, and then name it Craig
EDIT: When I made this comment the last thing I expected was like 30 replies?? No hate to Irish names or anyone else named Craig. I just personally do not like the name. I’m sure plenty of people don’t like my name too. Just how life works sometimes man
Cregg
at least it aint Keith
@wakenbaker-uk You mean like Hope, Courage, Swan, and etc.?
Is Craig short for anything?
@@razzle8140 Craigward
Let's not forget that TRO has internet historian caged up in his basement.
So that's why he hasn't been uploading as much.
Who's internet historian? Isn't it Raid Man?
I’d let him chain me up tbh
His plan is to one day have all youtubers locked up in his basement
Is this the fun and kinky kind of locking up or the "misery" kind of locking up?
I've just watched a 2 hour documentary about a content creator I've never heard of and you kept me engaged and entertained with an eloquent and detailed summary, great video
Same!
I’ve watched it 5 times now. It’s great study background noise for me lol!
@@annlanzi3590 tro is great bg noise
That's how TRO works. I genuinely could barely care any less than I do about the drama and stories that he covers, yet I love hearing him break everything down. Some people are talented in that way, they can take even the most boring of topics, both those boring to you personally and boring in general, and then make them incredibly interesting and engaging, such that you're happy to sit down and watch a 2 hour video essay on it
@@icequeen52I agree, save for finding the topics boring when it comes to predatory people online. That, I find to be important to understand and know.
It definitely makes for good background noise.
Mini Ladd is a child. A child who cries when he doesn't get what he wants, who manipulates others into giving him what he wants. He can't stand being vulnerable. What he did was not small, he abused his power with intent. It wasn't him acting out, or a lapse in his judgement. He is a child who will do anything to get what he wants, use whoever to get what he wants. There is no excuse for what he did.
He's child that wants to chase children
He's a MANchild, which is someone who is 1000x more insufferable than the brattiest, spoiled actual child.
Mini is like the nerd who gets close to one of the popular kids, then shit talks all his nerd friends to become friends with ALL the popular kids.
Who then does something that turn them into a social outcast.
Damn i knew someone like that
@@shteatinggrin Mind sharing the story?
@@ronaldvexdian2182 to this day he hasn't share the history of this person.
@@shteatinggrin ...story time?
"As we all know, feeling suicidal gives you the right and desire to go for minors." -miniladd probably
That's odd cause depression for me usually means a lack of interest in anyone or anything.
@@suzannax It’s almost as if it was a fabricated excuse to save his ass... Hmmm....
Tbf, when you have suicidal thoughts that usually means that you have nothing to lose, which leads to not thinking straight. I’m not saying what he did was justified, but that I see why he did it.
At least he didn't go for a ten year old.
@@suzannax same
I remember reading that a large portion of people who are convicted of sexual crimes against minors aren't "pedophiles", as in people who are primarily or solely attracted to children, but are people who take advantage of the inherent power dynamic between an adult and minor for their own gratification. Given his other accusations of abuse and manipulation, that's definitely Craig's category. He isn't a creep who stalks playgrounds offering candy, but a narcissist who views women of any age as fuel for his own indulgence and ego.
To me, that is even more sinister, as even an outright, clinically diagnosed pedophile can know that acting on their attraction is wrong and abusive and can stop themselves from harming others. But Craig can and will not, as he views his actions as passable. I do want him to _actually_ seek help so that others aren't harmed, but I also want him to never be able to sweep this under the rug.
funny. i’ve always read that pedophilia, like rape, is a paraphilia which relies upon power. every pedophile takes sexual gratification out of the power they have over a child. I was groomed, and the pedo took gratification over the power he had as an adult.
i would argue it is craig’s category given that’s the entire basis on which pedophilia lies upon.
He will never get better, quite fucking frankly he should find a rope and beam before he rapes MORE children that you don't care about. Those CHILDREN weren't women, they're vulnerable young girls who were sexually and mentally abused. Classifying them as women provides outs for him.
Glad to see someone say that. I'm sick of seeing people give child predators the "mental illness" excuse.
Being attracted to someone isn't a mental illness, mental illness doesn't force you to be a predator, & claiming otherwise helps predators get away with it.
Personally I'm a forgiving person who tends to try to see the best in everyone to a fault- I often rewatch this video as a lesson to remind myself that not everyone has good in them, not everyone can care for others and not everyone deserves another chance. The story of Mini Ladd is one that makes me sad, because I want to believe that we as a species are better than this and yet this story is the evidence to contradict that belief, for better or for worse.
I think pretty much everyone does have good in them. The question is whether the bad outweighs the good. I think our species definitely is better than this guy, on the whole - people tend to be quite kind and generous to those around them. We can't let the worst of our fellow people taint our view of people overall!
@@4nn4h Absolutely agree with this-
@@4nn4h When you rape a child, you destroy them, at that point it doesn't matter AT ALL if 'there's good in them'.
@@4nn4h Even Hitler loved children (the white, cishet, non-jewish ones) and animals
You want to forgive predators because you are one yourself. How kind of you to feel bad for him, truly.
I love how he said " damn they're still playing gmod?" When he still reacts to shitty reddit videos and unusual memes
dam youre still playing gmod?
@@artinfingerquotes5107 dam youre still playing gmod?
yes 😔
Dam their still playing gmod?
Reddit vids can be funny, but Mini is not
I can't believe this guy actually tried to convince a teenager that if she told anyone, she'd cause thousands of death. That's... deranged shit, not just manipulative. That's scary.
100%. That really is next level. It would be bad and disgusting if he threatened to kill himself if she told anyone, but he tried to say that other people would kill themselves- practically putting their death on her conscience. Sickening.
It's a shame he came back and people are supporting him.
@@ericholman1935 it’s disgusting
He still had fans so who's more deranged
He was right though
I never really watched Terroriser in the past but when all for this when down, he quickly became one of my most respected CZcamsrs out there, it’s honestly commendable to have been in the situation he was in and still act with composure after being hurt by someone you considered your friend and by being targeted for something that wasn’t your fault.
He's a real one
You know what's even more sadder about this situation?
He removed the videos even involving this situation showing he never learned at all. I really wish he would learn, and not just keep spiraling down, but seeing that made me realize he's not gonna change ever.
God, I can't just help but feel so bad for Terrorizer. He sounds so defeated in that stream where he's talking about Mini lying about them patching things up.
Terrorizer has always got the shit end of everything. Even in his friend group, when I was younger and absolutely idolised Vanoss, I felt bad for him. Nobody ever gives him any respect or treats him fairly. It’s really saddening to look back now and focus on it more now that I’ve seen so many bad things go his way in real time.
@@grayolsen8769 don't judge too harshly about how his friends treat him especially in videos, they're still friends for a reason. Brian, Nogla and Delirious were always targets because their friends knew they can take the heat. They knew these three aren't egoistical (like Mini), besides most of the time they themselves resigned themselves to ridicule and mockery, showing that they have great sense of humor and they don't take it personally. Like in the recent Gartic Phone, when the prompt "Pathetic CZcamsr" was presented, Brian without much prodding from the others, just drew himself and be done with it lmao.
@@johnjowari7128 "bitch gets shot by a witch with a mac11"
@Nylthanyr IV knew what?
@@grayolsen8769 are you talking about the past or
I'm honestly stunned that a significant number of people were willing to entertain "I sexually pursued teenage girls because I was depressed, sorry but I'm in therapy now", that's not something you just start doing impulsively to this extent.
I think for some people they put their enjoyment of the content he provides over the pain of a victim and will latch on to any excuse he'd offer so that they can use it too.
Or they're also manipulators in their own lives that use the same excuses.
exactly thank you.
@Death Omen As a sixteen year old who was diagnosed with Atypical Depression, the fact that so many people were willing to entertain that fucked up "Depression" excuse for predatory actions sickens me.
Edit: There are many different types of Depression. I have Atypical Depression, so I can safely say that whatever type someone has, is absolutely no excuse and should never be a gateway to be a predator. I wholeheartedly agree with you. Pursuing underage people is not a symptom at all of *any* type of Depression. And even *if* it is, it's still no excuse. Explanation, but *never* an excuse. No matter your mental illness, you deserve to be locked up for pulling the shit he pulled.
@@DelilahDarling17 if anything him actually having depression would mean even if someone came into HIM he wouldn't even care about the flirting.i have major depressive disorder and when you're in a down time you are apathetic if anything, you feel nothing emotional.
@@Coyotebriggs Exactly! Completely agree.
"His impressions range from Terminator, to... Asian guy, Evan's favourite I'm sure"
For those who don't know, as you can see from photos used, Evan is Asian, and he has a very dark sense of humour and finds the ability to laugh at most things, his favourite being race jokes which he directs at everyone but mostly Asian people when he makes joke about himself.
"ching Chong Kobe" "I'm a white man and I'm racist against Chinese people" and "I got the rice hat. it says thanks for creating the coronavirus you [slur] [slur again]" are my favorites
I think the only thing he likes more are Canadian jokes
Evan’s great like that. It’s the best when you got a friend who’s got a strong moral compass but is still able to enjoy dark humor. That contrast is the best kind of friend you can find because they are often the most transparent people you’ll ever know. Evan’s got balls to say stuff like that, but I think it’s his way of sending across the fact he doesn’t like to hang out in a filtered environment for the sake of fake politeness when the alternative is way more fun, especially with alcohol involved. And they’ve been doing that a lot more lately. 😂
Evan can finally be himself as of lately after the whole woke thing has died down this past year. Before that, he was definitely quiet for the sake of not getting wrongfully cancelled by people with soft skin.
Anytime someone uses the “I’m suicidal to make me feel bad for them” that’s a red flag to me… the dangerous part of someone actually being suicidal is the fact they don’t usually tell people about it especially to get pity for it… at that point that’s a pity party and you’re no longer suicidal and you’re using your potential suicidal thoughts as a way to get what you want.
one of my biggest pet-peeves about die hard fans is when they’re like “b-but they donated to charity🥺”
PSA: you can be a bad person/do bad things and donate to charity or perform “good” actions
I mean, just look at most politicians.
hey, I hate him with such a big amount, but you have to admit, he HAS done some good. not enough to justify THAT, but still. *not defending the Pablo in any way.*
Bad people can do good things and still be bad people.
corporations donate to charity for tax reasons so they get to keep more money. charity isn't necessarily an indicator of absolute good.
A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good.
Ironic, Craig wanted to remove himself from Vanoss’s shadow. He wanted to carve out his own identity, his own legacy, and for that, he got exactly what he wanted. As the old saying goes, the devil doesn’t come dressed in a red cape and pointy horns. He comes as everything you’ve ever wished for.
wanna bet he wishes he was still in Vanoss's Shadow?
Damn das like deep got me thinkin
I find it oddly similar to a monkey's paw type logic,
He did carve out his own identity, and he did separate himself from Vanoss and company
But only to be identified and labelled as a pathological liar, manipulator and narcissist.
He achieved what he originally wanted. But the way in which he did it, or the repercussions of such an identity were not what he wanted at all.
The devil came not in fire and blood, but in hope and love
@@John-Stark The worst part is none of them ever were in Vanoss shadow. Everyone who actually became fans of the group saw each of them as unique people.
I guess that's just narcissism for you.
When Craig had about 20 subscribers, he asked to play minecraft with me, I let him on my server and made videos with him and gave him a shoutout to get him a couple hundred subscribers, I had 1k subs at the time. I went to uni and stopped making videos, when I started up again, and contacted Craig, he blocked me and never spoke to me again. Good guy
That’s the problem man, you grew up, too old for him
you were too old man
Mini deserved every bit of backlash that he has gotten
like the old joke goes:
''Mini Ladd grooming some mini ladds,,
Pablo grooming some mini ladds
I will remember Mini, but the name "Craig Thompson" should forever be buried under our foot, heck the ground didn't do anything wrong to deserve being associated with that name
or, Mini Ladd showing his mini lad to Mini lads.
@@cycloppsss oh no
@@cycloppsss awww noo 😂
Ironic he didn’t want to be known as “the Vanoss crew”
So he settled for “the guy who played with the Vanoss crew”
"We've come full circle"
Vanoss crew is probably the worst thing the fans could've come up with
@S0und Syndr0me is it banana bus or boat?
@@reeeeeeeeeeeeeeman6757 banana bus
The guy who played with the Vanoss Crew but became a Skinner* fixed it for you good sir
This video may be old but in hindsight there were redflags about Mini Ladd from the start. Last year Nogla talked about how Mini Ladd joined the group in a video from his react channel with Terroriser (I think the video is titled "tiktok memes that exposes us..."). According to Nogla, back in 2011-2012 when everyone had really small channels and the "Vanoss crew" wasn't even a thing, Nogla and Mini Ladd met each other online but they were both in their own separate groups. Nogla was with Lui Caliber, Droid, and Ve1ocity HD (I may be forgetting others), while Mini Ladd was in his own group. Apperantly, there was some huge drama/altercation in Mini Ladd's group that led to Mini Ladd being kicked out. After that Nogla offered him a spot in his group.
I think that everyone at some point has been in a friend group (online or irl) that was separated due to drama, but when there's toxicity in every friend group you're in and it always involves you (like Mini Ladd)... you might be the problem. Imo, I think it has everything to do with Mini Ladd being a narcisist, he doesn't seem to like it when he's not the one in control or the center of attention
DID HE REALLY JUST POST. It’s a miracle
Righttt
Praise the all migthy Suzanne!
I know! I almost fell down!!
I am so relieved. Thought he was gone forever
I would’ve unsubbed but he was gone for so long I just forgot that he existed
I hate the "nobody's perfect" thing abusers use to excuse themselves
Exactly it's only used if u did something that isn't way too far.
@@goodbye3384 like "Oops. I burnt dinner. I'm only human." Or "Oops. I forgot what I was supposed to get at the store. I'm only human." Not "I abused you as a child and it's all your fault cause I'm only human."
@@comicgoth666 geez it's really messed up 😓
@@goodbye3384 Yeah. My ma would say that shit. Hate when others do it.
@@comicgoth666 yeah 🤦♂️my grandna acts like that sometimes
I absolutely love TRO's voice, it's quite relaxing and days to fall asleep too.
I struggle greatly with insomnia and these videos are so helpful, thank you.
I don't, if the guy dropped the weird accent and talked like a regular human, the videos would be so much better.
Your explanations you give for this situation is amazing. Also big props to the editors. Absolutely incredible editing.
Mental health isn’t an excuse for being a shitty person. There are many people with mental health problems who don’t try to manipulate or take advantage of minors.
It's one thing to be suffering from mental health and not knowing how to deal with it, it's another thing to actively try to hurt someone else and blame it on your mental health.
Many a people use mental health as scapegoat,its really sad knowing how many people are quick to use mental health as and excuse
It's also the most illogical excuse to, it's like saying "I'm just born to break people's fingers", idk about you, but I want to put a person like that behind jail for eternity, more so then if he said "I did it for vengeance and I'm normal", because at least the second option makes you sound redeemable, why DAFUQ do people keep choosing the first?
Exactly. As someone who grew up having to navigate the world being neurodivergent and having poor mental health, it became clear to me from a very young age that the mere mention of any mental or emotional issues would always be interpreted as lies, excuses, whining, etc. It was drilled into me to just let people ignorantly brand me with judgments about my character rather than attempt to explain why I was struggling. Certainly not ideal, but as a result I have zero patience for those who really do invoke mental illness as an excuse for a shitty personality, lack of integrity, lecherous behavior, etc.
@@jfm14 idk about that, I generally met with IRREDEEMABLE mentally ill folks I CANNOT trust, if they commit some atrocity under some cause or ideology that I can see people can change from and "redeem" themselves if normal, but society has the right to FEAR mentally ill people, it's not discrimination, it's a RATIONAL fear. Normal people lie, evil people manipulate, some are born evil and must be put behind bars and throw away the keys. Folks like that don't change ... They never change
Y'know, it's not until I took off the childhood nostalgia goggles that I realized Mini almost never added to the jokes, he just kinda laughed about them and said something that threw off the jokes entirely. The only time I can think of him adding something was a really major coincidence that aged poorly, him saying he was Pablo the Pedophile...
Never watched Vanoss, but looking at clips of his videos, he look like the type to do that 💀💀
Mini has tried to hide Pablo from the public, only to find him within.
@@wolfheardt4169 Mini wears a giant Mario head while messaging girls
I feel like wildcat was the funny one
But then again they're all pretty funny
Your library of videos is so good. Thank you for your time and skill.
If you were there during that “Vanoss Crew” era, you know this hurts more. I remember just waiting either Vanoss, H20, Mini, Brock, Nogla, Terroriser, or Lui to upload their videos. Watching them for years, they were there, playing games and having fun with it. One by one, they were gone, but still they kept up. But then Mini happened which initially i thought it was kinda “fun” to have a villain against them and i thought they were gonna keeper gooinnn. Then i realised, this is serious and they kept fighting against each other. Then, the dm came and let’s just say it took a huge turn which none of us expected.
This just hurts
yeahm really painful as a og vanoss crew era person thing... yeah thats english
Damn forgot about Brock man
I would watch Vanoss' video first then I would go to the others to see their perspective
@@jinxmclastname9212 same tho
Grew up watching them and loved mini ladd but when he branched off I didn't like his content especially after he was taking shit about them it's just sad man
I have a lot of respect for Terroriser. He's ended up right in the middle of these shit storms and had to defend himself from uninformed fans taking accusations from the people who turn out to be the ones in the wrong and treating them as fact. He's been mature about it and handled it well, so props to him.
Brian michael hanby is a god
My only problem was he kept going after he already said his piece multiple times in a public space.
I don't have the respect for him I once had, but it's not hate or loathing. I'm just tired of him. Unlike Craig, who I feel deserves every ounce of animosity he's received over the past year or so.
Brian's definitely the better person, I just don't hold him in high regard as I used to. I still have questions of my own, but I'd rather wait and see if anything comes up in the near future...
@@shelbyherring92 that's probably because ohmwrecker was provoking him to do so at that time. have you their chats with ohmwrecker? ohm forces his "friends" to say what they need to say or else he'll call them out as people hiding pedophiles. you cant blame terrorizer for completely pouring all the information and all his feelings in a single go AND THEN shutting up because he's tired, proof of it is how he immediately stops the moment he halted his interactions with ohmwrecker
@@shelbyherring92 i respect your opinion, but i also understand even just a little of Brian's action. It kept brough up by fans and he really was done with the drama that kept pulling him into one.
I've always respected him as well. He's a tried and true grown up. Not many of those exist on youtube...
"I struggle from mental health issues" while never giving any specifics, any direct or indirect confirmation what his issues are whether that comes from himself or anyone close to him. I genuinely believe he was making that up.
Excellent segmenting of the video. The titles are clear and to the point. Good job!
"Yo Mini! You just ran someone over and killed them!"
Mini Ladd: "Oh shit. My mental health, my bad lol."
Worse than saying ooof its cos I'm a libra
The irony being he nearly was killed being ran over by someone
@@redluca56 the super duper irony is that I stopped watching miniladd when he wouldn't stop complaining about people joking about cars even though he's the one acknowledging the jokes
@@ravenanne1734 I remember him laughing at a Paul Walker joke before he himself got ran over. After the accident he went on a tirade, in one of his videos, about how horrible and sick it is to make jokes about someone being in a car accident.
Damn what a weird name for his car
"ooh he's back!"
**Sees Mini Ladd on thumbnail**
"and he's chosen VIOLENCE!!"
Its been a year, i knew exactly what was happening 🥺
Rightfully so!
@@tylerjirkovsky482 i knew the basics, mini ladd is big badd, but it was nice getting the whole picture.
@@gamma00crucis yea i had been subbed to him, but i unsubed when he started to make less videos at the end of the century, in woulch i assumed "assumed" he had probably did something with a minor, even through i was actually completely oblivious to what was going in the news.
And bucause i had unsubed at the time i did, i had no fucking idea he literally lost his mind, and when i heard that my mind literally blanked in diss belief.
@@gamma00crucis it's sad cuz he literally had EVERY opportunity to get his shit together and change his ways, and he squandered every single one, while there definitely is a SHRED of hope for redemption for him, it's unlikely that it will happen, it's possible, but unlikely...as he's permanently destroyed any value his word could ever have, as his promises mean nothing now...how can you trust a man who has a history of perpetually lying? that's right, you can't. until he shows CONCRETE PROOF of ACTUAL attempts at improvement, it's unlikely anyone will ever be willing to give him another chance, and rightly so.
love the detail, and the different variety of edits to this. The different styles from your group of editors made the video an interesting one to watch, and overall the depth of the content, this video had popped up in my recommended feed and I'm glad i clicked on it. It gave me a better understanding of the situation as i only got bits an pieces of the stories when they were first brought up on other outlets and didn't see the other aspects to his downfall makes the whole picture more clear. I will say i couldn't watch the video in one sitting but it was more enjoyable as i watched a few segments here and there over the span of a few days to let details of certain sections sink into the mind better and to be able to see where the manipulation is visible in his wording his actions, and behavior. the last apology he makes for an upload in this video does seem like its an honest one and finally a ****ing wake up call that he needs to really get a hold of himself better, but he dug himself a real deep hole, and it will be interesting to see him so be it truly redeem himself, if he can. It would be interesting to see an update video to this and to see what the community think of him as this year being 2022 brings, and what the other years will bring, does he go the route of keeping true for redemption and stay on track or does he go the route for a bit and just dig himself back into another trench if he lets the persona of "Mini Ladd" take over again. He just needs to be Craig and Remain Craig and be honest with himself and the community
Thank you all editors and narrators included in this. I didn't understand the situation with craig at all since it started. I haven't been aware of anything said or done by him or any other people involved. This helped educate me on this unfortunate chapter of his life
the fact that this is 12 on trending for gaming proves that TRO is a real gamer
older than his victims
@@tomkatt8274 PLEASE
@꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄ ?
@@sleepydevilz L O L
10:58 “They’re still playing GMod?” As he says during his 10th fucking meme stream that month
As someone who was watching it live, that definitely seemed odd.
That was when I dropped Mini
funfact brian totally out of nowhere after what mini did was revaled said in the beging of a death run "YES WERE STILL PLAYING GMOD" with a laugh aka a direct poke in miniladds eye for that quote
The thing is, too, unlike meme streams, especially ones done by those as annoying as mini, Gmod videos have actual quality and replayability.
not to mention his stupid try not to laugh videos. whenever he claimed he didn't laugh it didn't feel like every youtuber's "haha look me funny", but a defense of his ego
Everyone who worked on this video did a fantastic job! keep up the good work! 👍
The names of the video parts in the description are perfect, I salute your capabilities sir
TRO: makes a video on someone.
Me: Oh God, who's this guy been DMing and how old were they?
Well...a lot of girls, a lot of minors that's for sure
Right? Am starting to believe TRO made it his day job to call out pedo-YTers.
you can always answer the last question:
He could impregnate them IRL legally but because he DMs them he's so "evil" lmao
@@elroy462
What
Who would have thought a guy named Terrorizer would be the most level-headed dude in this whole drama.
Lol
see that right there is word prejudice you're being racist
@@candb8088 ?????
@@WhatIsMyLif3 what are you confused about?
@@angelman906 probably the use of racism when it has nothing to do with the statement.
My first video i have watched by you, i must say your choice of words and manner of presenting them are all quite appealing, lovely stuff truly.
HE IS BACK DEAR GOD WE FAILED
Terroriser even when he's mad at someone is still respectful and prefences his statments with don't just take my word for it, mad repsect
Pretty ironic considering his name lmao
It was such a surprise that terrorriser is actually super respectful to mini ladd who wronged him a lot, while on other hand blasting Daniel in the Irish lad collabs XD
The funny part is how Mini Ladd credited CallMeKevin as his inspiration for becoming a CZcamsr yet Kevin is friends with both Terroriser and Nogla
Didn't know that he lost weight before nikocado...
@@stuartward1755 Wait, he did? Hasn't Mini Ladd been a youtuber longer than Kevin? Maybe I just encountered them in the wrong order....
As sick as this made me, it is nice to see that people didn't just forget like he wanted. Pretending like nothing happened didn't get him what he wanted, and as flawed as CZcams is, this was at least a hopeful sign.
The worst thing about it is that more often than not, he's right; people do often forget about these controversies and move on to the next one.
Miniladd is the special exception because, even though this was in a mod chat, he said it out loud. And he did, as TRO called it, option C, which made things so much worse for him.
It's good that people went out of their way to spread the facts. I don't follow him on Twitter, and from watching only his CZcams and not caring to read comments I would never know.
The problem is not that people did not forget. The problem is that his audience did not know the full size of the controversy.
@@shaunlevin5081 and then there is Carson situation , where everybody already knows that he was nowhere near as bad as Mini , but want to paint him as a serial killer and cancel him more than Keemstar ?
People on the internet always respond with inaccurate intensity
@@Dan_Kanerva I don't think the idea of cancel culture is a bad thing, but they need to aim it at people like Mini and not people that don't change their profile picture to a rainbow in June. Cancel culture right now is so bad that I rarely even go on Twitter.
Mini had the nerve to return. I hate that he’s getting away with this
Same dude. I saw one of his vids show in my recommended(the fact that youtube had the nerve to even have that scumbag in my recommended -__-) and I was like 'Ew, WHY IS HE BACK ??! D-Did we forget what he done like ??" It really sucks that these god awful ppl are getting away with this..
@@grumpy_roo apparently people did, they were all so happy to see him back as if he didnt do any of this shit
@@lowhp_comic not only that when I made a comment people are telling me to let it go like what?! This man is a pedophile what the fuck you mean let it go?!
I love how fast you talk, thanks for not slowing yourself down!
My heart broke when I heard terroriser's point of view. You can really tell he cares about his friends and was genuinely taken aback by his disgusting behaviour. Even though his friends wouldn't value him as much as they really should, he would stand up for them. You can really tell he felt betrayed by the behaviour from a person he thought was his friend. I really love terroriser and I hope that his friends are there for him as much as he is for them.
Aye. The man is genuinely hurt about it you can tell he's hiding it.
Fake bollocks for clicks.
I found the crew recently, during the among us wave. I found nogla, wild cat, terrorizer, etc. I loved their dynamic and loved watching their content. Then I found out about how mini ladd was connected to them, which was wild to me because I knew of the drama before I knew of the backstory. Then I heard about how mini tried to make Brian look bad by shitting on him and excluding him from the group during one of the few times Brian was in the US. And you could tell Brian was hurt because he wanted to have a nice dinner with friends he had known for years but were separated by distance, and Craig took that away from him because Craig was petty. And Brian even approached him at like an after party and was like "talk to me directly if you have a problem with me, not behind my back to OUR friends". I gained so much respect for Brian after hearing his side of the story. And just seeing him handle the drama in general, like saying Craig left the group of his own accord and talked shit about his friends unprovoked so thats why he doesn't get invited to game sessions. Despite Craigs manipulation, Brian always stuck to the simple truth that wasn't destructive or harsh to Craig and his character. Craigs response showed us who he really is, and Brian let that happened because he knew shitty people will reveal their own shitty behavior in time. I have mad respect for Brian, and he seems like a true friend. I hope his current friends keep him around, because he is a rare one
@@reiniamajiki4179 your response is much more articulated than mine lmao and you said what I was wanting to. I love how Brian's not taking any of his shìt and how you can tell he is very disappointed by how shitty he is being.
I hope him and the irish lads are having a good time together, when i watch their collabs it seems like they're genuinely having fun
“His apology” should have been named “Mini feel badd”
"Mini sadd"
Just went to his Twitter…. Everything is private… LOL
@@matthewfiedler4739 its for a malcious reason hes deleting everything he can that could link back to his second channel which he has disconnected from his main one and is trying to return onto the second channel
@@wilmagregg3131 What's his second channel?
@@nelkam5543 its his real name craig thompson
Beautiful video, tro ty for the thought provoking content. Doesn’t get any better
it's sad having someone you looked up too turn out to be..this
very well done and professionally made video-new sub!
When Pablo wasn't just a character anymore
Truth is, he was always in the chair.
Holy shit I completely forgot about that "joke"
"you turn into Pablo!?"
Part of me feels those kinds of character jokes among content creators/influencers tend to be projections too often
@@nonokes now THATS a conspiracy theory I can get behind
I like how the editors have their own styles and personalities.
Yeah TRO really let's his editors shine. It's also pretty nice that they get to credit themselfs in the title cards. Good for the portfolio.
Ok
Which is sort of the point
@@user-yw8sr3uj1w Okay? They're just pointing it out.
@@Unreachableparadise As was I
the man is still on CZcams
the man is still uploading
how
what the fuck
how did we not get him off
Just gotta ddos tbh or hack his account and upload videos of him admitting he’s a nonce
@@nuclearphoenix177
I don't think he deserves that. ddos will just lead to physical assault and threat and that's just not okay, he just needs to lose his platform. that's all.
@@blue-vr8dd unfortunately only the extreme would work for his idiotic fan base
I watched this from beginning to end. Lots of stuff I didn't know, so thankyou for doing so much research
Every time TRO talks about keem you can hear the anticipation in his voice, one day keem is gonna mess up, one day he's gonna go too far, one day... one day he's gonna be the star of a TRO video. He walks a fine line and TRO knows it.
He's been around so long that he knows what he can and can't do in order to continue better than most, I'd imagine. This is the dude that said the n word on a stream, and yet he's still kicking. I feel like if something was going to topple his ambition and have him fade into obscurity, it would have happened by now. The exception being Cosby level allegations or thereabouts. The drama and negativity has managed to sustain him for all this time
I hate keem ngl
@@JK-gm6kk karma is a bitch, unless you mellow during the years, i think this is what happened to him. Keem is just more cautious now
@@JK-gm6kk well h3 happily said the n word several times and he's still kicking so....
Not only did he do what others have alr mentioned but also being a huge part in the etika thing :(
“Twice the pride, double the fall.”
- Count Dooku
That's two count dooku quotes already, bless Christopher Lee
@@nonautemrexchristus5637
RIP to him and his greatness!
Woah, who?
@@LunarBloodRose27 The actor who played Count Dooku among other great roles. He was also a WW2 vet.
The actor in the movies?
I'm not sure if there's any other actor that played as him other than the movies, hell I barely even remember the movies in the first place lmao
Mini's channel is one of the reasons CZcams getting rid of dislikes is a real loss to society. Those apologys were on par with Filip Miucin's...
i useallt dont watch drama videos about youtubers. but your videos go into such precise detail and shows the proof its actually nice to watch in case you need caught up on whats happening with your favorite youtuber. its nice. 10/10
Still to this day find it crazy how in-depth and clear your videos are!
everybody gangsta until the commentary avatar crosses their arms
everybody gangsta until TRO literal feels genuine anger and shows it in a video.
timestamp?
@@glapheous6805 I believe it was around 1:29:38
mini ladd: *starts a nuclear war and kills all life on earth*
mini ladd: "i didn't mean to kill everyone, i've got depression"
Idk that's actually a plausible one
That's just like Neon Genesis Evangelion's plot wtith Shinji
The nukes name is depression
@@jonhard1049 🤨
@@goopguy548 no-
Thank you and your team for this video
It’s nasty because he was seeing some of these children in real life. That’s terrifying. If there was a chance he could be alone with them, I shudder to think what would have happened. Just via phone he is manipulating, guilt tripping, extremely toxic and bullying. He presses hard to break boundaries and force girls into doing what he wants them to do. He’s a monster
I feel so sorry for Terroriser, Vanoss' crew and Mini Lad's victims.
Edp445
@꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄𒐪꧄ what language are you speaking?
Fuck Terroriser
@@ggraeroixia5591 What, why? What has he done to make you say that?
Nyet
Hearing such a sophisticated British voice say "banana bus squad" is one of the funniest things.
Could you put it as a time stamp for reference for future readers?
@@mythicalslugbeam130 or you could just watch the video? Not that far in.
@@IIiiiLiiOiiIii It's for convenience and plenty of people ask for timestamps for points even shorter into videos. Besides, I wanted for others and myself to be able to loop this. Guess I'll have to do it myself then: 3:47
@@mythicalslugbeam130 makes sense
@@mythicalslugbeam130 thank you for the time stamp i would die for you
New to ur channel, a mad fan,still making my way through all ur videos, and mad love to all the ones I have seen😎 new great insights that seem to lead my mind in different ways in every day life so had to let u know how much I appreciate ur videos, amazingness, constantly makes my mind think, and re-think❤ thx for ur videos, great life support and surprises that influence my intake in life🙂👍🏼well appreciated
At the time all of this happened, if my memory serves right, I was either a year younger or a year older than miniladd and going through my own set of mental health struggles. I felt so comforted and inspired by what he and a lot of his old group did with their platforms, and I admired mini in particular for his perceived openness about mental health. When this all came to the surface, it just...broke my heart. Like many others, having a history with sexual exploitation and abuse made it hit a particularly sensitive spot, and it made me sick. I couldn't watch any of the old group anymore because anytime his voice would come up in videos, it just hurt. I hope someday he can take full accountability for what he's done, and offer a genuine and full apology, but sadly I don't expect that to happen and won't be holding my breath.
*Any controversy with Mini Ladd*
Craig: "Wow! I just got SEVERE depression, this instant!"
Interesting coincidence isn’t it?
I hate it, I have clinical depression, PTSD (specific traumatic events) & cPTSD (abuse over a long period of time through entire childhood as a whole). It is literal HELL living with all 3 of those, it’s fucking exhausting. I’m also being seen by Autism Adults in my city, to help better understand myself etc... if I ever upset someone with my words or actions, I’d want to know and I’d want to know how it made them feel, if they’re able to talk about it. So I can learn from it, so I don’t repeat that behaviour, so I can be a better person.
I NEVER want to use my mental health as a shitty shield that magically protects me from all criticism, it’s just part of who I am and happens to be disabilities I live with, they certainly aren’t a free pass in life to literally abuse people, especially minors FFS
@@ZombieSazza I know the feeling... was depressed from chemical imbalances in my head from a child, then on top of that got Leukemia at 18. On a cocktail of painkillers and sertraline that puts me on a daily emotional rollercoaster of crying, wanting to eat a bullet, loving myself, wanting to eat a bullet, wanting to confide in someone, then curling up and crying again. I know your pain. Believe me... you're not alone out there.
@@ZombieSazza yes! I also have severe depression, anxiety and paranoia. I have never groomed anyone. It’s disgusting for people to use “mental health” as an excuse to abuse children
When the world needed him most, *HE RETURNED*
And better
Thought you were talking about mini lads for a second and got confused af
@@mintcondition7789 oh GOD no
And then, the fire nation attacked.
He truly is the avatar
I usually enjoy watching these videos and just listening to what has happened to these people because I just like listening to others talk and learn new things about the topics.
However, this topic was hard to watch.
I was a huge fan of him and the banana bus crew (started watching about early middle school). And even when he went solo, I still watched his content. He was fun and it was something that inspired me to try and be an influencer like him. Then, everything that came out just soured it almost. I felt almost ashamed of supporting this man. I watched him constantly, went to one of his tour shows, even bought his merch. I looked up to him. And so sometimes it feels silly to be disappointed in someone I’ve never met but I still do sometimes because I wanted to be like him. I want to help people smile like he once did to myself and many others but it feels bad that I’m inspired by the old him before this. I wish I could not think about it but when he’s a major reason I wanted to start, it hurts hearing about this
Man... I was a Mini fan but when I saw and heard all the things he did, people opening up about what happened, and Terroriser just sounding drained from all the clips that existed on CZcams when the issue came up, just made me sad.
Sad for the victims of his actions since they had it worse, and is still probably having it worse, sad for the fact that Terroriser was right in the middle of all this, with his streams during the whole issue being less energetic and more worn out...
The “Eat hot chip and lie” meme during the end of the Mini Sadd segment had me nearly suffocate from laughter. I was not expecting that from TRO.
That's what I love about TRO because he uses these complex sentences that take me a couple replays to understand and then the next minute he makes a meme reference so out of sync. The timing is genius
Does the foundation know about this man? I believe TRO is an anomaly
Do I know who Mini Ladd is? No
Will I watch a 1 hour and 40 minutes video about why he sucks? You betcha!
Mini-Prikk*
Same brotha
@roguespinach Aren't you also here?
@roguespinach have you heard of taking a walk while listening to some stuff?
He was a fun creator for a while. And then he let the power get to BOTH of his heads.
This was the most painful downfall of any creator I used to adore. His content pulled me through a lot of shit when I was in the worst place in my life, and this is what became of him. I no longer watch him because of all of this. It hurts deep in my soul, but I’m glad that justice can be served. That’s what matters now.
Ok, so this case kinda hit too close to home, in that it’s uncomfortably similar to two of my own personal hardships. I’ve been subjected to guilt tripping manipulation for a romantic relationship. I’ve also dealt with my own personal turmoil involving someone I deeply cared and their involvement in inappropriate behavior (to say the least) towards a stranger. They even had enough... _despair_ in their condition that I saw some parallels to (Strange)LittleMan’s cases, and especially those who cared about him despite his earlier behavior. The emotions that came up were kind of distressing. Ok whatever, here’s what I actually wanted to say regarding LittleMan:
The apology at the end, the one that was actually entertained in the video had this instance from LittleMan that I really disliked, and it was when he admitted to preying on the girls because he “is serious about his upcoming suicide” (or whatever the exact quote is I’m not watching it again it kinda hurt me too much LOL)
But the way he revealed that information, if we were to trust its validity, ticked me off a bit. When you are a person who is hurting, and you hurt someone, obviously you don’t say, “I hurt you because I’m in pain.” It was the second time where he tried to play it off as genuine, where he sort of doubles down and asserts that “I was in pain, it was true” that was rather vile.
If in his position, for a sincere sounding apology, one does not say ‘oh yeah it’s true I did it because I was actually suicidal. It’s no excuse.’ Because it STILL immediately brings attention away from the victims. The words themselves could be fact and not manipulation, as ML said, but now the apology feels like it was made so the perpetrator would get closure, with the victims being second. If I were in his situation and I wanted to actually convince my audience that I felt genuinely sorry, I would’ve said something like “I am truly sorry for allowing my pain and desperation to bleed into your life in the form of such despicable manipulation.” Obviously that’s still pretty insufficient, but the key is that it didn’t fucking matter whether or not his pain is real, because the damage would be the same either way. Saying something like “allowing” gives a greater sense of responsibility than explaining what led to such a warped mindset. But if he seriously wanted to include information that would shed light in his reasoning/motivation for honesty’s sake, as opposed to defecting blame - which he even said that was what he was trying to do - following something like my example would’ve at least conveyed all the info without the theatrics.
The fact he still added that ‘I’m serious guys!’ tidbit was so revolting sneaky, it left me feeling in my stomach that he really wasn’t sorry. The whole video continued and there we were; he never changed.
Apologies if this comment was a waste to read, but I’m kind of upset about how tiny but still grossly deceptive it was.
This isn't Mini Ladd anymore, it's Pablo.
Craig is just a husk of what he used to be.
Pablo Escobar
That profile pic and name makes the comment so much better.
*visibly confused*
It’s ironic Craig made up a joke character that turned out to be himself
If you want to read another similar case of Irony look up Bendy and how the studio that made that has now fallen from grace and ironically has become somewhat similar to the fake game company it created
He always was Pablo, he was just good at hiding it for a while.
Logan actually being insane by editing in mouth movements. Must have taken forever. Great work!
can you please tell me what chapter of the video that was? i was watching audio only
@@dr_zre8498 part 7!
In after effects you can automate an image's size with audio levels. Simple line of code
Actually, I think he may have used a program to do that. You provide several mouth assets corresponding to each sound and an algorithm can match them to the speech. There’s a good video about it on here I can dig up
Yeah watch automatic lip-sync by carykh, it explains the concept really well
Mini being excited about 2020 and how he was gonna be make a lot of contact is funny as hell since it was prob his worst year to date as he got exposed.
The editors in this videos are spectacular as someone who is trying to teach themselves how to edit what I’ve seen in this video was as inspiring as it was overwhelming