Why F1 Bosses HATE the Monaco Grand Prix
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2022
- Monaco has a unique position in the Formula 1 calendar. Not just from a historic point of view, but also when it comes to the money they pay, the sponsors around the track, and much more!
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Monaco better be careful. If they lose their spot, they're never getting it back
I think too many F1 members and officials live there to not get it back, it’s Monaco though as well, they’ve been racing there for nearly 100 years, they won’t get rid of it
They can get it back easily, they will just have to compromise. F1 doesn't wanna drop it. They just don't like it the way things are now.
Never if Liberty are in charge
people are speculating as to why the miami track was added to show it's not just monaco they can use to attract new sponsorships. So, I agree they are willing to drop monaco and may consider adding the track back in 2026 when the reg changes car sizes to smaller ones.
Ok good luck with that
Alonso also proved the point this season about how dull the race track is with no overtaking possible.
That Alonso adventure was nothing but embarrassing for the sport. Dude was cruising around and not racing. The whole sport lost its meaning right there. Monaco out
@@avssify Yet, Pierre Gasly's two overtakes shows that overtaking can happen on the track. Make no mistake, I think some track changes would be great for the Monaco GP, but it doesn't need to be binned entirely.
@@FrPeterJShaw Yeah you need massive tire advantage to overtake which is rare.
@@frankreynolds9930 True enough. Let's also be honest: track isn't the real reason the Monaco GP's future is up in the air. It's all about money. Same reason why there's no German GP...
@@FrPeterJShaw Gasly's pace was also 5-6 seconds a lap faster on a different tire compound and he passed Zhou, a rookie.
Also, that 5-6 seconds/lap pace differential was a bigger gap in pace than what Alonso was doing at the end when he was just cruising slowly going 4 seconds slower than the drivers at the front. Aside from that, I don't think there were many actual passes.
Honestly id rather see Hockenheim or Sepang back on calendar. I loved those tracks.
Definitely Hockenheim. My all time favorite
Miss Sepang! Great circuit
i would love to see hockenheim back in f1
Given how successful the Marina Bay Street Circuit has been, I'm pretty sure that Malaysia would want to host an F1 race in Sepang
Why not many people interested in Nürburgring?
Adding that F1 wants to string together races within similar geography, yet Monaco wants to maintain it's GP at the end of May, throws a serious wrench in the plans. Monaco is just a petulant child at this point.
Probably the best time to hold the race is in May.
Spain isn't that far away. I would be set for a European leg Portimao, Spain, France, Monaco, Imola back to back to back. We've all seen what a drag the middle east leg of the race is with 3 to finish last season and 2 to start this season.
What? The "europe" part of the season is literally during the summer dude. European races would be held during the summer months...
Huh u and me think alike very much an entitled child
Been an F1 fan for a long time, and I've felt for a while that the tech of the cars far surpassed the capability of the track, resulting in nothing really more than an exhibition race occurring in the midst of an elite's party.
Agreed. I've been watching F1 since the early 90s, and the last couple of years I've given up on watching the monaco GP itself (still watch the highlights after, though). The race itself is mostly a snooze fest. Qualifying, though, is still exciting to watch. Nothing quite like a driver on the absolute edge around the streets of monaco
What happened to matt
@@rolmops883 That's why I say they turn it into a time trial style event for reduced points.
@@noahgreaser1213 He's on holiday I think
FOM really needs to take charge of the TV cameras/direction. The last few years have been atrocious. This would be the bare minimum for me to continue to host at Monaco.
Besides that I think Monaco should supply Fiat 500s to every driver - ensuring they are all equal - and the driver's get to qualify in those to establish grid position. ;)
This circuit is great for qualifying, for the race it's not very exciting usually sadly
Since 1950, only 10 times has the race been won by a driver starting lower than third.
Disagreed. If they let this race start in the rain it would have been a master show of skill
Quali is all there is in this shitfest, it's the pinnacle of glamourous boredom and vanity
@@elwelcom Who?
I think Trintignant, Brabham, Rindt, Patrese, Rosberg, Panis and who?
@@Lucas-qk8lc they did race in the wet. But the risk for teams is way too much to have sent them out in that downpour. This isn’t an open track with run offs
I'd honestly be okay with Monaco no longer being a permanent member of the calendar. The track in doubt that I care about is Spa Francorchamps. If they removed Spa from the calendar they would be doing a gross disservice to all fans. Yes 2021 was a mess but a good number of the greatest races of all time have happened at Spa!
If Monaco goes then it will open the flood gates for other races to go. Liberty are only interested in one thing and that is to make as much money as possible. GP's willing to cop up the most money will be the ones that will get the races despite what type of racing it will produce. Already they are talking that there will be 3 races in the US just on itself. F1 will end up being a reality TV show and not a sport.
It's hard to make that argument for spa while at the same time making the argument against monaco. Don't get me wrong spot it's a much much better race but taking out any sentimentality both of them aren't the best race tracks.
@@Caiphex Spa is the prefered race by the driver since years. There is a mix of race thrill, history, landscape and feature (raidillon) that is awesome !
But I may be biased since I'm Belgian
@@Caiphex Not really. Only 1 of the criticisms levelled against Monaco also applies to Spa but to a much lesser extent. Spa doesn't always provide the best races but there's still enough overtaking places that you can't drive around 3s of the pace or without a MGU-K (and therefore 25% less power) and still not get overtaken. No one expects brilliant races every time, just a track where overtakes are actually possible without a gigantic pace advantage like Gasly had.
Life keep changing.. What must go just let it go
Most years I watch Monaco and Indy back-to-back and most years, I find myself regretting the decision to wake up early for Monaco. Indy has points of slowness around the midway point, but at least there is always a promise of action or unpredictability…. Monaco almost never provides that (unless someone has gotten into a horrifying wreck)
Indy is also extremely boring most of the race... I can meet you in the middle with watching the first 10 laps of Monaco and the last 10 laps of Indy500
*cough* mick schumacher
Monaco takes itself too seriously. We live in a different time now! When the Monaco GP was finishing this year, the four cars were all within half a second from each other yet we saw no overtaking. Monaco is a place for the ultra rich to park their yachts, and definitely not designed for the average F1 fans to participate and have a good time. If we need to get rid of one GP this year, it should absolutely be Monaco instead of Spa, which is almost everybody’s favorite.
There's no PASSING because of the regulations from F1.
That's the biggest problem with F1, it's so regulated that it's barely racing anymore. It's just cars doing laps and allowing others to pass because someone in the pits directs them to, including telling drives who they WILL allow to win races.
@@babsme6459 there has been more overtaking this season than at the same point on previous years in recent memory. The issue is the circuit is no longer fit for purpose.
@@theMATTY1319 But only due to DRS. That’s not racing. If the Tunnel was a DRS zone you‘d have seen lots of passes. We need cars where slipstream is the biggest thing and if you need a gimmick to pass bring something like PTP from Indy
@@theMATTY1319 F1 is boring as dirt! Most PASSING happens only with permission of the pits. And until people like you that are defending this travesty of "competition" actually condemn someone int the pits making the calls on whether people can pass each other, or order others to allow someonet to pass them , or even control who wins races, then y9u're simply part of the problem!
@@eggselent9814 drs in tunnel will be dangerous, its really narrow and blind, also there's discarded rubber off-line
Reason: The cars dont fit anymore
Yea bc the rulemakers decided for 2017 to just make the cars wide asf
Yep! 1 hour race, more like 1 hour of traffic jam
@@ariqhaidar7261 Well everyone wanted faster cars and they got em.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks ^ this. Lesson learned, be careful what you wish for ladies and gents
@Microsoftlag2.0 but still wide. Thats the problem
They need to extend the circuit out seaward. Make it unique and create a section where overtakes can happen.
I agree that would be a fantastic way to keep the Monaco GP and bring it up to date by adding something new and unique, not sure how realistic or practical it is though.
F1 can't get Monaco to pay the going rate for the race let alone make the kind of investment a plan like that would take.
I'll agree that it is time to update the circuit and make room for more dynamic racing, however Monaco is the most unique circuit on the calendar. None of the other street or faux street circuits are like it. The main problem with better opportunities for overtaking is all the street in Monaco are too narrow and there really isn't room to add wider streets or a track section, at least not without a lot of effort for a once yearly event. It is used for other races like Formula E but nothing close to racing importance.
I would hate to see the Monaco GP go because of its history and iconic cache' but in fairness it is kind of like an old school iconic stadium whose time has passed. Like the old Yankee Stadium. Maybe with the French GP seeming to being going away a track should be built just outside Monaco. FIA's willingness to give up the French GP should be eye opening for Monaco if it really wants to keep the GP. Maybe if they can deal with that much elevation change have it dip down into part of the city in a sort of track/city or road/city hybrid. Right now as it is Q3 is the most exciting part of the weekend as pole is realistically only broken by P1 screwing up or having a DNF.
Another issue is with grand stands, there's very limited room for them. Fewest seats on the tour translates into lower revenue. Something like 80% of spectators watch from windows and balconies along the route.
Good suggestion but not fiscally responsible. They won’t see a return on a tens of millions investment such as this.
there's 20 other tracks where overtakes can happen, you can live with monaco
I remember seeing drivers and commentators raving about how special Monaco was; but, having only ever watched it on TV, I really didn't get what the fuss was about.
Reading between the lines, and applying some eagle-eyed hindsight, I think I've worked out what's special about the Monaco GP : It's not about the race. It's about all the parties that happen around the race.
Yeah vast knowlege here. You are truly a motosport enthusiast arent you?
Monaco psss it is nothing just france doing stuff eeh do you agree? You know i am so impressed i that i will share this thought with all my friends.
And you should know we love as you are
Monaco is really exciting and challenging for the drivers. There’s no other track this unforgiving, one tiny mistake and it’s all over. But unless there is a big crash that thrill from the driver doesn’t translate well to TV.
The drivers usually love it because it's a challenge for them. And the setting is unique. That's about it.
Katy is really good at this! I wouldn't mind her doing more content like this :)
Agreed... really enjoyed her narration.
@@soundscape26 tbh I didn't. way too mellow
@@ISirSmoke That's probably because we are used to Matt's more lively delivery. Katy chose, and well, not to try and emulate him.
@@soundscape26 simp
I find Matt to be way over the top, and I like that about him but not in every circumstance. Katy is very easy to listen to and is pretty knowledgeable
"Transport into the city itself can take hours as the local train and bus network is not large enough to cater to the thousands of fans that flock to the circuit every year". It’s going to take even longer if you start out in Stockholm, where that clip is from 🤣
Blev också smått fundersam när jag såg det 😂 04:57
I was not the only one to notice that😆😂
What did you expect from this channel, journalistic integrity? WTF1 is yellow press.
Like most of their clips and backgrounds, it'll mostly be made up of stock images and videos.
They probably just looked for "public transport" and picked one at random.
@@stephen9894 exactly.
When Formula E started racing in the full layout of Monaco, I knew the writing was on the wall: Formula E came to stay, and they will carry the torch of the Monaco GP. Motorsport is no stranger to that, as some time ago the Le Mans 24H wasn't raced in sportscars, only in GT cars.
for le mans, does the LMP and LM hypercar class fit within your "sports car" definition?
Monaco is like a relationship you've given chances to, but just have to walk away from until they do or don't make some meaningful changes.
She's boring as hell, gives you no space and all she cares about is her yacht and white chinos.
The ACM needs to realize that the Monaco Grand Prix is not like the other two races in the Triple Crown of Motorsports for one key reason. The World Endurance Championship would collapse without the 24 Hours of Le Mans. The Indycar Series would collapse without the Indianapolis 500. Formula One can very much live without the Monaco Grand Prix. And given how dull the racing usually is at that circuit, I suspect a rather large segment of the Formula One fan base would not be too upset to see it go. If Monaco wants to stay on the calendar, the ACM needs to give up its special treatment.
It’s so boring to watch… so so boring. No one wants to watch cars just follow each other. The cars are too wide for the circuit and it’s been that way for years….
I will never watch f1 again if monaco is cut
I like how the first two replies to this comment is showing the *Duality* of F1 fan
@@drewp.weiner2473 good for you, you are in the minority. Only people griping about keeping it is for “the history”. F1 has changed since 1950, as has nearly every circuit, why can’t Monaco? They need F1 more than F1 needs them.
I get what you're saying, but IndyCar would NOT collapse without the indy 500
Yay Katy! While I miss Matt, zero complaints about the extra Katy content! Great video, and some excellent points. I love Monaco, but definitely think they should be held to the same standards. I’d really hate to see it go, though!
Where is Matt??
@@ShadowRacing on a holiday
@@ShadowRacing on holiday!
@@ForzaPolska06 oh. How long for?
@@ShadowRacing no idea
I'm not really following it
I’ve been in Monaco and I have to say that the transport is not that bad, arriving by car it is quite easy to park (super expensive, but that’s not the point) and since the principality is so small, it’s super easy to walk around it. In Imola the traffic was crazy and it was a nightmare, much worse than Monaco. And one last thing, F1 from the grandstands in Monaco is crazy, you can really see and feel the crazy speed they can carry through corners, I’ve seen F1 in Monza, Imola and Monaco and in Monaco it is twice as spectacular, it has genuinely blowed my mind, while in Monza and Imola it was more “normal”
I have to say, the build-up to the race and qualifying is exciting along with the rich history, but when it comes to the race itself, it's a bit of a let down. Felt this way for a long time. Usually a snooze fest
Qualy in Monaco is the EVENT of the weekend. Love it!
@@veryfastride
Yes but race is very boring
This last weekend at Monaco was infuriating from a TV Director standpoint.
It was horrible coverage ffs, missed so many key moments
Matt has gone through reverse puberty, i see😂
monaco has always been fun for ppl rich enough to attend in person. for everyone else, from the audience to the teams, it has always been a pain in the ass. drivers love it for its traditional/sentimental value but the fact daniel riccardo could win the race when he lost the electric portion of his engine tells you this track has to go.
i dont think monoco is that expensive like it expensive to stay in monoco yes you don't have to, plus easier to get to then paul ricard full week grandstand tickets are like €900. I've a few friends that went a few years ago they parked about a hour away and walked. like not more expensive the ticket to mami or circuit of Americas. at least you get closer to the cars in circuit of Americas your about a mile away from the cars.
It’s nice to hear Kate for a video! It was very informative and nice to listen to. Plus any video that doesn’t have that creepy Matt “talking” animation is a win in my book! 👍
(I like Matt, it’s just that animation where a picture of his face has the lips photoshopped to "move” is unsettling to me lol)
since people are talking a lot about the future of Monaco, they could turn Monaco into somekind of special event in the calender, instead of a full on race it could be a time attack, quali in Monaco is always cool, so turn it into a full on time attack event, full of special and unique liveries and so on. :v
even if the race around Monaco is boring, drivers still like to drive there, they like quali and the fans love it, so if they can have the best motorsport organizers to create a time attack format for a special event in Monaco, that would be awesome.
Quality on Saturday with F1 cars, race on Sunday with go-karts. And make Monaco the retro livery GP.
Who is this "they" you speak of?
The whole issue is that F1 doesnt have control to make any changes.. your idea, regardless of if its good or not (bit boring ngl), doesnt matter, it'll never get through the Monaco Race Directors.
f1 might like it, but they dont like a lot of how Monaco is ran etc.. so its just another thing to add to the pile of "yea, sounds good.. oh wait.. they said no"
Make it another Goodwood Festival of Speed. I'm down with that.
@@TheAngryDwarfff they = every party involved in the organizing of the event, I know this would never happen, the ACM are a bunch of limp dick old crusty and visionless bastards that would never agree to this even if it meant something better for F1, these kinds of bastards are so attached to traditions they rather see everything go to ruins than to adapt, just like Ecclestone was with how he managed F1 before Liberty Media took over, they rather see it die than adapt.
@@ManualsRBetter already exists. Its called the Monaco GP historic
If South Africa were also given the benefit of a lower buy in then I'm sure we would see a Kyalami Grand Prix! What would you rather see?
I’m south african. But love Monaco. It’s a classic
Monaco still
South African government has already said they will hold an f1 races. They have asked the FIA to wait till they have no humanity issue first. Basically, the government wants to fix the problems it has on the inside before selling it self to the rest of the world.
I'd like to see a race in Egypt and some other areas of North Africa some day. I know that WRC races in Kenya which feckin rocks.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks that I'm sorry to say will not happen. Not a big enough fanbase and they can't afford the cost.
@4:56 thats the Stockholm Sweden subway, I agree it can be a bit of a hassle getting from there to monaco
No matter now iconic the track is, the Monaco GP have to adapt to the times or risk getting kick off from the F1 calendar.
Watching this it makes you wonder if Monaco can still live up to the name
Nice voice Matt
If it has to go it’d be pretty cool just to see an extended qualification and time attack instead. Would be new for F1 and in my opinion the qualification at Monaco is unrivalled
I actually find the Monaco TV direction a relief from all the other events. They don't constantly show full screen car shots (sponsor cam) which offers no perspective on car positioning while racing. Also we don't get the hideous mega zooms on the pit wall crew faces that let you count the hairs on Newey's head. To me there is also a much better balance of air time for all the cars on track with longer distance shots being utilised so overall I find it easier to watch, less frustrating and appearing more like races used to before modern corporate interests decided what we needed to see during a race.
I might be the only one saying this but 1929 was even before formula 1 began so for me alteration is the answer not discarding I would like to see one Monaco for a change rather than 3-4 US GP 3-4 middle eastern GPs...it is a piece of motorsport history do you just can't wipe it off like anything...
We have plenty of history. Spa, Silverstone, Monza being the big 3.
Imola, Brazil, Austria, Suzuka are sort of in the history books.
Spain tho boring is still technically a historic track.
Personally, a fun race in a historic track is only slightly epic as a fun race in the Middle East.
People watch F1 nowadays for the racing, not the history.
@@hdr_diamondz as I said there is no denying the fact that it's a procession but we can maybe look to change the layout....btw only Monza has hosted more races than Monaco. It holds a lot of significance like how we see graham hill and Ayrton Senna
The only problem with losing Monaco is that it will be replaced with a boring street circuit in USA or the Middle East.
I get the street circuit but doesnt middle east sounds exciting ?
isnt Monaco a boring street circuit?
@@edofluit6568 thats the irony he's mentioning, he's saying its better to keep a historic boring race than bring in a modern boring race
Or they could come back to Indy. Not a street race there.
@@Ceece20 Or go to Kyalami, or Sepang, or heck go back to Watkins Glen.
I love the fact that you’ve put in some B-roll from Gamla stan, Stockholm, Sweden, at 4:57.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm in team "but it's Monaco!". I know there's literally no overtaking, tv direction sometimes sucks, but at the same time, it is just so unique, so incomperable to any other cirquit. It is a huge part of F1 history, and I just can't imagine a season of Formula 1 without the Monaco GP (2020 is an exception, as a lot of races were cancelled for obvious reasons)
Petition to make the drivers to race in karts in Monaco 😂
You can’t get rid of monaco,it’s too iconic and if it went so would half the f1 fan base
It's nice to see Katy doing the voice over!!
Although the racing isn't that great, with the bonkers amount of history behind the Grand Prix, it would feel so wrong to drop it.
The sad thing is, it's not Monaco's fault. F1 cars have became more and more bigger throughout time, it's becoming impossible to race there : (
It's about more than the cars though. I guess countries should be allowed to use sponsors of their own but like they said, when the cameras are mostly interested in selling something other than the race then the problems get worse. It really is a poor viewing spectacle in many ways. I think it should go myself.
4:56 Here I, as a swede in Stockholm, have lived all my life not knowing our subway goes to Monaco?!
Imo. unless Monaco is willing to give up all of its special deals, it should be dropped, dealing with such a bad race is tolerable only if everything else about Monaco is fixed
I feel the opposite way. They should change their track DRAMATICALLY if they want to stay in the F1 personally. It's so boring watching F1 cars go around like civilians vehicles and not overtaking.
I want Monaco to stay on the calendar but I think that The ACM realise how important the race is for the country. They need the race more than F1 needs it. However, Liberty Media are a bit money hungry and sometimes disrespect the heritage
Liberty is just telling monaco how unimportant they really are in todays age, sometimes tough love is needed if you want change to happen and liberty can very easily deliver the tough decision
Nice shot of the Stockholm subway at the end! :)
The train clip in the end 4:57 is from Stockholm, Sweden and not Monaco.
The biggest problem with Monaco is that the cars have just outgrown the circuit. The actual difference between the size of F1 cars of the past and those of today is astounding when you see them placed side-by-side. They look like multi-trailer road trains when compared to something from the 60s.
From the 60s yeah, glad you say that. Going smaller won't help, no one has won in dry conditions outside of the top 3, since 1985. The smaller cars 10 years ago, made no difference
Glad to hear Katy while Matt is on vacation 👍🏻
It sure would be sad to loose this historic track, but I really do hope it’s not going to be renewed…
We need a race in Toronto some sort of street circuit around the CN Tower. Camon now
I think Monaco could become like the Macou GP, still prestigious in its own right but not an F1 race
Love Matt, but Katy's VoiceOver is objectively the way to go. They're both great, but I don't feel like Katy's screaming at me, which is crucial when there's so much information involved, as is usually the case in F1. I found myself wanting to watch 100% of this video, while I'm usually done after 80% of it.
With all those cost breaks, you would think that they could fix their live camera feed. I forgot if it was during qualifying or the race but the camera feed was staticky on F1 TV. Also you would think they would water proof the track electronics as well
It undoubtedly has one of the most engaging qualifying sessions of the year but the race is an absolute joke! Even rain couldn't save it. I say scrap it for a proper track. Great video Katy!
What's so different about the qualifying there?
Only thing I see is crash and red flags not letting people finish their lap.
But basically every year. Someone gets pole on the first run. Then causes a yellow or red on the second run to keep it.
@@jacksonsilva4409 the high risk : high reward of quali at Monaco is what makes it great imo. Those walls are tight!
As a new fan who started watching in 2021. I appreciate things being “classics”, but it doesn’t make me feel different about Monaco. Their downsides are extremely apparent though. I don’t mind it going away to have better races. I have no nostalgia for these things yet :)
And you never will either. To be able to get nostalgic about racing in Monaco, you need to go back and watch some of the old races there. 1982, when no one seemed to be able to win, and a car that spun out of the race ended up winning. Or some of the really old ones from the 60s when the cars actually fit, AND had room to race on the streets. Honestly, the cars are FAR too big to race there anymore, but it is literally one of the crown jewel races. I don't see it going anywhere. People have been whining about Monaco since the 90s at least. I was too young to know what else was being said in the 80s, so I just watched, and enjoyed.
I've been watching the sport since before Senna died but I have zero nostalgia for the GP. The qualifying is always interesting but the race is a Sunday nap after the start.
The thing that gets me excited about Monaco was it's the only street track in the calendar, with super tight tracks. But now we have a lot more city tracks and they have proven to be more entertaining than Monaco (Hello, Baku). Monaco kinda lost its charm there of being the only city track to just another city track that is difficult to overtake.
So please dont say things if you dont mind
Its not about the historic, it’s about appreciating how close to the walls drivers must be for 70 laps, it’s pure art, you wouldn’t handle even the first two corners, that’s why Monaco is special, not the history but the talent you should place there to win
Get rid of it, its just a cars following each other for 70+ laps. It doesn't produce wheel to wheel racing, it does sometimes like once in a decade. Good quali circuit though!
* THE RACE releases a video *
WTF1 : * furiously takes notes *
Interesting how you choose to add a clip of the Swedish subway :O
I’ll be honest, I like Katy hosting videos like this more than Matt
They should take turns... this way everybody would be happy.
Aside from the sponsors and tv handling which it seems a bit shady, the Monaco historic grand prix hosted two weeks before showed how it's possible to have good racing in that track, today's F1 cars are still too large for that track and they aren't changing anytime soon, so Monaco better be nice to F1 if they want to keep their spot in the calendar.
The thing is, if Monaco goes out it will likely be filled with a de facto slave state paying for people to forget what they do.
@@Fonetiker Sadly that is the most probable outcome if Monaco is out, F1 has become greedy AF.
4:57 That's the Swedish "Tunnelbana"
I think they need to change up the nouvelle chicane a little pull the curb in so can take it a little faster and it would be wider, turns 15 and 16 needs to be open a little more and the big change for me would be have the Antony noghes corner the final corner the pits instead put the garages on the road (the main straight) and have what is the pit garages and pit lane as the starting grid they would be able to follow closer because la rascasse would be a hairpin, those grandstands facing into the pit garages on the harbour would have a seat to see the start of the race instead of the pits stop, the pit lane exit would be moved to the left of sainte devote (Turn 1) so instead of hard breaking into turn 1 wouldn’t be a 90 degree corner more like 40, 50 degree corner in turn they would be able to follow closer up beau rivage and into massenet and just maybe get some overtakes, obvs putting the pit garages on the main road would cause a few issues but think they could drive on the Promenade which would the new starting grid/main straight anyway so
I can remember back in the 80’s how the cars would trundle around unable to overtake each other. They were too big and powerful. However, Monaco is such a key event within the calendar I can’t see it being removed.
i thought f1 cars now are bigger than before
Maybe the Monaco GP should become the crown jewel of the Formula E series? That car type and the track actually generate some exciting races. Might push some more fans towards that series, and also get the F1 cars onto tracks that more suit their size and power.
It's such a difficult question as the track holds such historic value it would be hard to dismiss, and you cannot argue that qualifying on the Saturday in Monte Carlo isn't one of the highlights of the season. But yes, the cars have far surpassed the track limits and the race is often dull bar a few strategy calls and the odd driver blunder. I personally think it should be kept but only if the FIA can come to agreeable terms with the monagasque association. This will be extremely tough but if they truly believe this is a real staple of the calender, like I do myself, then a deal must be made.
Imagine 2024 and monaco still has the smallest streets in the calendar and the cars have gotten ALOT BIGGER than 2022 cars its just gonna be an exhibition race rather than a fun and exciting race
....BUT WE'LL HAVE *_TALLADEGA_* OR *_DAYTONA_* AS REPLACEMENT=!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.........I SUPPOSE IT'LL BE NICE,RIGHT??????...........
The problem is that Monaco is barely wide enough to walk on
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Shout out to Katy for the great narration!! I hope we can hear your voice in other videos outside of the WTF1 Podcast in the future ^_^
I'm on the fence. Even as a semi-new F1 fan, I can appreciate the sheer history behind Monaco as well as the beauty and challenge of the track. That said, even glossing over the current F1 cars being too big for the track, I don't like what I'm seeing in how the ACM and other organizers are acting like stuck-up American reality TV stars. The fact that they're not willing to sacrifice some of their privileges and compromise for the greater good of motorsport rubs me the wrong way.
This year's race was pretty good, probably the best Monaco GP I've seen since I started seriously watching F1 in 2020 (like I said-- semi-new fan). That said, given everything I've seen recently, I wouldn't be too sad to see the Monaco GP leave the calendar until the organizers can get the reality check they need. Which hopefully won't take forever.
Besides, the Formula E Monaco E-Prix is more exciting! If anyone wants some good Monaco action, I'd whole-heartedly recommend the E-Prix.
I would only want to see the monaco gp on the calendar if the track was changed and the tv direction was handed over to liberty. I mean, how hard would it be to widen the dock at the Quai Antoine 1er a few meters and make that a straight with a loop back? You'd get two extra DRS zones and extra sharp corners for overtaking.
didn't expect to see my hometown metro in this material (4:51 Warsaw) Greetings from Poland :D
Also... Monaco is ICONIC they can not get rid of this track
Just make it happen once every 5 years or so, with its specific superpole qualifying, and 2 stops mandatory.
Also there was another youtuber that suggested to have a "joker" lap with alternative layouts that merge like in rallycross and force every driver to make at least 7 or 8 laps with that layout in the race.
Many optioms
Chainbear was the other youtuber. Every 5 years isn't worth it, either on the calendar or off it. The world cup is every 4 years, and it's the world's largest sports event. We shouldn't have a 5 year wait for 1 GP, when we have 4 year waits for the biggest event in the world.
The cars have got bigger but the track hasn’t
Monaco is the most epic track on the calendar, and the only one that NEEDS to stay! The overtaking issue most talk about was not a problem a few years back when the cars could actuially race and there was more overtaking, but the changes to try and bring back overtaking this year have actually made it even worse for monaco with the cars being so much larger. The overtaking can be improved but the main problem is the camera work, I will never forget how incredible it was to watch the top drivers (Alonso stands out) flying around the track with no room for error when the cars were better and the drivers were alowed to race! Don't dump Monaco, just improve the camera work and the cars!
The fact that the track length is in breach of the legal minimum doesn’t phase you?
I would love to see fun interviews with drivers/coaches/even F1 officials if there are certain road courses or street circuits they would love to have back on the calendar. Here in the US I got a little annoyed that Miami built a hybrid street/road course around the NFL stadium instead of asking any other road course to renovate, from what I've heard the race track wasn't that good and was legit bumpy at times which made the drivers nervous. I would love to see Road America or Sebring host F1, but as of now they're Grade 2 circuits.
Another thing that made me annoyed at Miami's circuit was how faked it looked (there was even a fake water spot off of one of the corners), kinda reminding me of Shanghai in how fake that looks.
I agree but the only problem is that Sebring is possibly the bumpiest track in the us that holds televised races
I cannot imagine F1 w/o Monaco. Monaco has historical value and I indeed love the fact that we still race in the same layout for decades. Makes it super amazing the look back at the old days and compare. It has its problems but Monaco is unbelievable for F1. It needs to stay.
It needs to stay? Then they should try to be more fun than a track where overtaking is virtually impossible and has its own exclusive privileges.
Cars are just getting to big man, if they get a little smaller monaco would be fun again
@@Insoma f1 use to give out awards for the drive with most overtakes in one season. They stopped doing it because no driver ever won it. In one full season in the 90s only one overtake was recorded on track. Is Monaco really that bad when you look at details like that
In the 90s the cars were much smaller. Nowadays the formula cars are the have the size of a quite big SUV. With that said its very hard to squeeze 2 cars side to side on the circuit.
I think the problem with monaco being removed is *not* on the monaco was removed, but on the direction of F1 going to if the race was removed.
Similar with F1, NASCAR in the 1990's are taking bigger market that shares bigger money to. The expansion cost North Wilkesboro Speedway and Rockingham to be gone from the schedule. North Wilkesboro like Monaco is just not up to standards of the competition, so they removed it in favor tracks like Texas Motor Speedway and Chicagoland Speedway. Unfortunately NASCAR never capitalized those markets. So in order to cap the losses on, they made a lot of bizzare decisions in the long term like Stage Racing, and Playoffs which basically motorsport version of Champions League Knockout phase which ended destroying their reputation.
Now if F1 actually removed monaco, the afraid is that there were no capital racing event in F1 meant that there were no special event in the calendar. And as a lot of tracks struggle to paid hosting fees at minimum 25 million dollars, by removing monaco who had lowest fees, F1 wouldn't hesitant to removed any tracks that can't lived up to the cost even if it had huge market. Silverstone were first came to mind when they admitted the fees of F1 pulled is just to high for them. And like NASCAR, F1 also expanded their markets such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Miami, and Las Vegas. the question is how sustainable that said races? Are their going to recoup or infact made double amount of money, or they will sink down like NASCAR'S cookie cutter tracks?
Now Katy actually pointed out key factor that would made monaco hard to get a new contract. However is pretty clear that F1 also had it's own fault here, as they raced for almost 100 years and start bragging how bad monaco in just recently. Chain Bear in his video of improving monaco are made pretty clear statement that the 2017 rule changes is the worst rule change F1 has ever had, and monaco just cemented that. There also the Formula E, the support feeder series, and the Historique Monaco which shows that maybe F1 was the problem, not the Monaco.
This race definitely need a better direction, both FOM and AGP needs to turn off their ego and instead start working to improved the spectacle.
C’mon man there’s nearly a hundred years of racing history here. Throwing it away is like saying the Augusta Masters golf doesn’t meet modern standards. Who gives a beep about clashing sponsorships or license fees.
Ive been in favor of axing monaco for years...and i havnt seen any reason to change my mind, host a vintage race there, if people really care about the history you could even hold the official price ceremony end season there but its absolutely inadequate for a F1 race... and thats even with me prefering stragegy being the decisive factor above on track overtakes
Exactly, maybe they just need to stick with the historic gp as well as the formula e race. I think F1 has become too big and needs to move on.
I’ve been watching F1 since I was a kid and the black and gold JPS car was racing but I’d be happy to see the Monaco GP go. I obviously watch it but it’s rare to see an exciting race there.
Monaco should, it's characteristics are: small, urban, glamours, historical, and non overtakes, yes, that one, and even with that can still give good shows and strategies can shine. Monaco should fix the sponsor and tv broadcast thing, but never to leave the F1, it is a main jewel 💎 of the sport.
Brother it was a wet race and i still fell asleep which good show are u talking about? The only thing "good" abt monaco is the quali everything else is a shitshow
Kylo Ren said it best.
Let the Past Die.
KATY !! was very pleasantly surprised with this one - would totally love to see more voice over videos from her !!! 🔥
Nice shots of the Stockholm metro!
I've had a sentiment for Monaco once but these days I wish we would skip this part of the calendar.
I'd still like to have it on the calender due to tradition. If we can have races on circuits which were built on questionable morals, then I'd choose Monaco over them any day.
F1 should never leave. Yes the race can be a little dull at times but this is the most iconic street race of them all. It's one of the four locations F1 should never leave due to them making F1 what it is today.
I love Monaco, it's an amazing place, and I want to see it return.
But to say I was there for the last one? that would be cool
For as long as I remember I got up and watched Monaco, then the Indy 500 and then the Coke 600.
And for many years now the Coke 600 featured actual racing, the Indy 500 featured actual racing, and Monaco featured an exhibition parade.
When the pomp and circumstance is more important than the race it's supposed to support you know there is a problem. At this point, no matter how sad an occurrence it'd be, Monaco needs to be removed from the schedule. It no longer is a track that provides anything close to racing.
They need 3 things to do to make Monaco suitable for F1:
1. Expand the track width
2. Remove some corners
3. Extend the track length
Katy??
Good job Katy! Hoping to see more of your stuff
- TV direction has been awful the past few years in Monaco, but I can't say that FOM does a great job either in the other races this year.
- The track itself; well it's mostly the cars who've grown too big (not just for Monaco, but actually for tracks like Hungaroring, Singapore, Zandvoort as well). If you'd compare this years Alpine with Alonso's title winning car it has nearly doubled in total mass. More smaller nimbler cars could not only bring back more spectacle and overtaking in general, but make the narrower circuits more interesting as well
- Finally; the thing that bothers me most is that if we would lose an icon like Monaco (and Spa), it will not be replaced by another icon track, but by the whoever is the highest bidding boring street circuit in America, Asia or the Middle East. Just for that I wouldn't want to lose a circuit in a country that does have motorsport history (not just the F1 GP, but the Rallye de Monte Carlo as well) and which is a home GP to one of the topdrivers in F1.
Monaco is the most Iconic circuit in F1 and no amount of "fan" complaining will change that. It's not a traditional race and expecting it to be is just people missing the point. It's a qualifying race and then luck of the draw and pit stops to change places. That in it's own makes it unique and requires a little diversity of race understanding from the fans but it's still always an interesting result that never fails to produce some sort of drama. I think the rise of popularity of F1 is starting to have a negative effect on it and turning it into an instant gratification race series like all the others. It's not Kart or Nascar. It's ok to have them battle a few laps before earning that pass ;)
The TV deal needs to go though for sure!
That is what the young people want is instant gratification. They are poorer for it.
Monaco isn't the most exciting track, but it's still one of the most legendary tracks, F1 just isn't F1 without Monaco.
as a fan of f1 i believe this is the only track that can be used to prove the best teams that have the best strategies. That is the most appealing part of monaco, and there is some tracks that can prove as such, but in monaco there's no room for mistakes in the strategies the teams make. However, thats about it.
Okay why is matt's images come into my mind while watching this.
Btw i think they should change some part of Monaco, extending it would be nice. What i want is make the tunnel straight longer into the swimming pool maybe it allows some overtake, i dont know about the safety of this but i think it would be more competitve than holding your position all through out the race.
Monaco out if there are no changes. Those with a historical love of the track can watch the footage from the archive but it's about time F1 moved on away from Monaco.
Let it go
Let it go
Let it go
The cars don’t even fit on the track anymoreee’
Let it go
Let it gooo’
Monaco need to close its doors’
Cause it doesn’t even produce good racing anyways’ 😃
Idk who did this new voiceover, but it was really good, well done ^^
Also time to let Monaco go. No racing, yet it is worth championship points. You cannot even say you earn the points for the quali, because pretty much every time its brought to an end by a red flag.
It could maybe be a 2 attempt time trial event, but then that's not very interesting, is it?
Well, they got a new contract, although it's only for three more years. I can't find anything about changes to the hosting fee, TV direction, or advertising rules though.