Milviz Cessna 310R for MSFS | In-Depth Review with Real-World 310 Pilot and Commercial FI!
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- #CLEARPROP! It's the much anticipated Milviz Cessna 310! I've been desperate to get my hands on this, so of course we had to go all out for the review flight by getting hold of a real 310 pilot to help!
N15WR skin by Fedar - flightsim.to/file/32688/milvi...
PMS 50 GPS System - pms50.com/msfs/
Timestamps -
0:00 Introduction
3:19 History of the 310
7:15 Exterior Model and Paint Schemes
13:30 Setup and Start
52:15 Takeoff and Climb
53:28 Climb Performance Check
59:30 General Handling Check
1:08:40 Cruise and Descent
1:18:45 Circuits and Landing
1:34:57 Nathan's Conclusion
1:36:51 Kitty's Conclusion
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DISCLAIMER
This footage was created by a real world commercial pilot and current commercial flight instructor. Although you may use this for learning purposes, it is recommended as guidance only and should not substitute any training from your ATO. It is intended to merely provide an insight into real world commercial training operations at a school we are familiar with and to enhance your desktop simulator experience. We are in no position to share or copy any company-specific data. If you are a trainee Private or Commercial Pilot, please refer to your approved training/company documentation ONLY.
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Software used:
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 - Hry
awsome review man never shy away from making them long as some creators might. hopefully more ga planes will come out as there is definetly a huge market for them, same as these study level airliners
Thanks, glad you’re enjoying the long videos! Yeah I think MSFS really suits good GA aircraft, there’s definitely a market.
One of the best reviewer in flight sim community! Please do keep making amazing content!
Thank you very much sir! We’ll keep making videos so long as people keep watching 🫡
Awesome video! It was great to see you go through the whole list of tests. Having the two of you together in the virtual cockpit really brought me back to flight school haha, what a kick. I'll definitely have to pick this one up.
Glad you enjoyed the video! I enjoyed having Nathan with me for the flight too, I’ll just have to get him a better mic for next time 😂
This has rapidly become my favourite plane in the sim, especially in VR. No GPS, just radios and the sky4sim moving map with the airplane not showing, navigating by radio beacons and roads / rivers etc. It's not designed to fly so high that you can't enjoy the scenery and at the same time it's fast enough to get me from A to B at a reasonable pace. I forgot to turn the alternators on last night (in VR I don't hide the yoke so the battery and alt switches are normally out of sight out of mind) and nearly kakked myself when the avionics died 15 mins into the flight :)
Exact the way I fly too… Sky4Sim to get a VOR to VOR route… hide plane in map… switch to flight plan in Sky4Sim and the C310 to radio nav only. Love it…
Best review video I have seen. Excellent job with Nathan & yourself. Doing the checklists & controlling the plane. All I can say is Thank You & Happy flying, Captain. Slainte
Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Really 👍
Thank you very much. I love your reviews, please keep doing them :)
Thanks! We’ll keep the reviews coming for sure 😄
Shame on you, CZcams, for taking so long to recommend this video and channel to me. Excellent content. I'll definitely watch some of your older videos next.
Ha, curse the algorithm 😂
Thanks for the kind words, friend. Hope you enjoy the other videos.
Fantastic review
Thank you kindly!
Really nice review and very informative. interesting having the opinion of someone that owns it too
Thanks!
I was so happy to see this plane appear in MSFS as it brings back so many memories of the three years I worked at an FBO at my hometown airport after I got out of the Air Force. As we were a Cessna dealer, I got to take a lot of free rides in the 310. The feature of letting it get dirty then washing it makes me laugh, as I can attest that they did get grimy. I spent many a free moment at work degreasing the undersides of these beautiful planes.
Glad to hear that this addon is bringing back some good memories for you!
I love this aircraft, because I flew one back and forth between Ft. Lauderdale and Boston several times in the early 80's. And the first A/C so far to work to A2A standards (that I loved in FSX), where everything works, including wear and tear and maintenance. Going to become my favorite.
Good to hear! Glad you’re enjoying it.
love the content
Thanks!
Fantastic video ! The bottom check box on the EFB passenger loading screen ('hide avatars') removes the models of the people but leaves the weight there - great if you want a MTOW plane but don't like looking at the passengers.
Thanks! And yes, perhaps I should have gotten rid of our friends in the cockpit for the sake of visibility 😂
From the manual about Individualization :-) way cooler than you think.
"No aircraft you’ll ever fly is perfect unless it’s just come from the factory,
and even then it’s unlikely everything is perfect. Most pilots know that every
airplane is a little different from another even of the same make, model, and
year. Since the last new 310R left the factory in 1981, we can be sure that
applies here even more than usual. All have been heavily modified, repaired,
and even rebuilt.
We offer you this option to “individualize” each and every 310R in your
hangar. By this, we don’t mean we change the look of the airplane - besides
the different paints, the visual model is the same. Nor do we change the
cockpit environment - except for the avionics suite options, they all have
the same layout and controls.
What we mean is that we randomly set the age and condition of the hundreds
of components that make up the aircraft. On a certain airplane , the left
engine pump might be starting to go bad, one of the gear lights might be
close to burning out, or perhaps the right mag on the right engine is a little
weak. And so on - the possibilities are almost endless. Each aircraft you
choose to individualize will be set up a different way.
We won’t hand you a broken airplane; every system will be operational. But
if you are the owner (see above) and you choose to individualize, your first
stop should be the maintenance hangar for an inspection. There, you’ll be
able to see the condition of the major components visually. (For details on
how to do this, consult the “Status” page below.)
Individualization is permanent, so the option is off by default for each
airplane. Once you choose it, the individualization happens instantly and
can’t be un-done, and likewise a new individualization can’t be done. Clicking
the option back off won’t do it. (You can, however, use the Status page to
overhaul the entire airplane and turn off “Wear and Tear” (below) and you’ll
be restored to a perfect sim plane that won’t change.)"
Wow, that’s actually a lot more in depth than I first thought! I’ll have to look into that AP mod also. Thanks for the comment 😁
Thank you very much for the great review. I am currently in the process of familiarizing myself with the C310r. Your video helps me a lot. You asked if there were previously airplanes that could be washed. I know the Diamond Katana DA-20 100 4X for FSX. There was washing and many other features ten years ago. I flew with her enthusiastically until"2020". If you like you can check the plane out bei Aerosoft. The Milviz 310 has been reborn in MSFS, I wish the same for the DA-20.Best regards
That sounds very cool! I’m glad you enjoyed the video 😊
My multiengine and multiengine instructor were done in the 310 (30 hours of flight training) and I built the 310R at the Cessna plant in Wichita, KS. until leaving in 1978 to work full time as an instructor. I normally climb out at Vyse. If you have an engine failure on takeoff you MUST retract the landing lights!
That’s really cool, thanks for sharing!
I responded while watching and after watching the entire video I noticed you did the same things I suggested. Very good video and I do have that plane in my sim.
What a fantastic video. Thank you for taking the time to make this. May I ask if you have had any issues with the heading knob on the Garmin G5? I know you prefer the analog gauges but just curious. It’s sensitivity is so low it takes 50 swipes to get the correct heading dialed. Analog seems to work just fine for me however.
Glad you enjoyed it! I only tried the G5 a couple of times but I didn’t notice an issue with the heading bug because I use my Honeycomb throttle controls to move it around. From what I gather it could be an MSFS bug caused by some key bindings on your peripherals. Try using a blank profile and see if that makes a difference!
Got interested if flying watching Sky King on TV, when I was a teenager. He flew a C 310.
Yes, I’ve seen clips of that show! Sadly we never got it over in the U.K.
The stock TBM 930 has animated deicing boots!
It does?! I don’t think I’ve ever flown that plane 😂😂😂
At 47:47 you found the value of pre-flight checklists! It might have been a very short flight if you left the AP on with elevator trim full-forward on takeoff. :D
I bought the MilViz 310R on release day and still love it.
Yep, that’s why we have them after all 😂
Glad you’re enjoying the plane, I’ve been having a lot of fun with it myself.
yep. Perfect example on why checklists will always be important haha
The KAP140 Mod fixes the AP issues.
Great review thanks. I all ready have the 414 chancellor, on xbox and as this has just come out do you think it's worth having alongside as its quite expensive!!
Thanks
I think the 414 is just about the best GA aircraft in the sim all things considered, but the 310 is very good if you want something smaller and a bit more ‘sporty’. The persistent maintenance features are very cool too.
Please provide your bindings for honeycomb, thank you ☺️ amazing video, tons of information
Thanks! I’m just using the default bindings, minus the light switches and mag selector which I left unbound.
Your voice was clear as a bell but I had difficulty hearing most of what Nathan was saying. Still loved the video though, and do look forward to better production with the next one.
I'm really sorry about this. I had no idea at the time my microphone was so bad 🤣. Will absolutely try and improve for any future videos
Like Nathan said, bad audio from discord combined with an old mic 😂
We’ll sort him out with a better one for next time. Glad you enjoyed the video!
I was going to mention this too. I'm American so the accent wasn't helping either. I found myself thinking of Nathan (fondly) as Captain Mumblepants. 😜
Excellent video, well worth the watch. So based on the landing here and what you put it through, are two-engine planes technically safer, in case of engine failure?
For the most part, yes! Some twins are certainly more capable on one engine than others though.
@@FlyFromHome Thank you!!
I really enjoyed this review. You touched on every aspect that I was curious of and then some. I've always thought the Cessna 310 was a really cool airplane and I'm glad to see that such a detailed version of it is available in MSFS. However, I think you're right about the price of it. After seeing your review I'm sure I'll be purchasing it at some point, but I hope this doesn't start a "justification" of higher prices simply because of a few "unique features" on otherwise normal GA aircraft. If the 310 were offered by Carenado (for example) with great looks and reasonable flight handling for ten bucks less, I'd certainly consider it. I don't care much for having to worry about a breaker popping, etc... most of the time I just want to relax and enjoy flying the airplane. Perhaps those "extra realism features" could be offered as a reasonably priced addon package for those who want it?
Glad you enjoyed the review! Yes, the price does put it in a strange place when you consider what else you can buy for that. I do think the effort they’ve put in here warrants a higher price than most though.
You might like the MilViz Porter. Same company. Same excellent flight dynamics. But a more affordable price point.
Really though, this plane is well worth the price and the extra features add an immersion and require a mindfulness other planes lack. Which is brilliant because this isn’t a particularly complex plane and with two engines, has the redundancy you need for even a major failure. I was skeptical but it turns out these new features add gameplay. You are thinking and managing things while flying. They somehow managed to make it fun instead of a chore.
You know how it costs a little extra for a well made complex airliner? The 310 adds that extra level of detail and polish that constitutes a slightly higher price. One of the few must buy GA planes in the sim. It just has personality.
@@toribarron5700 Yes, I have purchased the 310R and have decided that it is actually worth the price. I liked it straight away from the point of takeoff. I may consider the Porter at some point.
Milviz don´t update this plane since release.
Actually a big update Service Pack 1 is in final beta, would be very nice a new review with this update, that solve many things, also the touchdown when landing.
Nice channel!
That’s good to hear! I’ll be sure to check it out.
I love this plane in VR! I'd love to map the primers to hardware switches. I can only map the starters but no luck with the primers (even with FSUIPC 7). Any ideas ?
No clue I’m afraid! Try asking on the MSFS forums or email the devs would be my suggestion.
@@FlyFromHome Wilco
All fine, thanks for the video. However I cannot hear or understand nothing of what the second guy is saying :P
We know, he’s getting a better mic for next time 😉
Looking closely at this one. Obviously the A2A Comanche is everyone’s big deal at the moment, but the mph airspeed and weird panel layout aren’t doing it for me. I just spent a crapload on Rod Machado’s IFR ground school, and need a reasonably fast plane with an utterly standard panel to learn that, uh, stuff. Loved the old Milviz 260, and have always considered the 310R the most beautiful light GA twin ever designed, so, yeah… pull up the PayPal!
It’s a very cool aircraft. I’d give the Flysimware 414 a look-in too.
What is the best:
Milviz 310R or Flightsimware 414A Chancelor?
They’re both excellent, but I’m doing a review on the 414 soon so won’t spoil my conclusion just yet 😋
They are vastly different planes even though they look kinda similar if you squint.
The 414 is pressurized and flies smooth at high altitudes. A luxury SUV.
The 310 isn’t, and it has shorter wings so it is more of a sports car.
In real life the 414 is the better plane. In sim, the 310 is a better, more full featured add on.
I too enjoyed the surprise murder attempt of the 1940s autopilot. If I could have my way, I would rather use the G1000 autopilot.
Hopefully the autopilot gets improved with this update they’re looking to drop soon!
I have absolutely no luck with this airplane. There is something I miss I can´t get above 100 knots on it and that is just enough to keep 250 feet above sea level with help of ground effect. Not sure what is going on no ap, auto mixture and throttle lever always show 100 %. prop fully forward too. also on start up it has crazy torque must use 70 % right rudder to somewhat keep it straight.
It sounds a little like you only have one engine on.
Sounds like you have an inadvertently feathered prop or something? Try unbinding all your control assignments apart from the flight axes and go from there.
@@FlyFromHome yes probably didnt get the right engine to work properly. I got it up in the air now at least and at 150 knots :)
Which is more realistic, Cessna 310 or 414?
You’ll have to wait for my 414 review to find out 😋
The 310, but they are both excellent and surprisingly different.
Simply Luv this twin and yes the auto pilot is rubbish I know not Milwiz fault. I realy realy like this twin but in real would never fly a real one with its instability etc. the only odd aircrafts I ever flown in real life were the Piper Tomahawk and a V35 . Normal aircraft were The Piper Warrior and Cessna 172 or just say cessna etc
Hopefully the AP will improve when Asobo gets to it. Still a great aircraft though!
Can't hear real 310 well enough to make it listenable 4 me
Yes I’m aware of the issue, there was nothing I could do to fix it in editing though unfortunately.