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Popular MSFS Addons Re-Reviewed by a Commercial Instructor!
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- UPDATE - the Just Flight Pa28 series aircraft have now received a major update which addresses most of my concerns here. Check out my new video on them!
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Due to the constantly changing nature of MSFS, can add-on developers keep their products as fresh as they were on launch? We dispatch Kitty to find out!
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Introduction 0:00
Carenado Seminole 3:08
Just Flight Arrow 12:34
Carenado 182T 19:15
Carenado Seneca 23:17
Just Flight Warrior 32:37
Milviz 310R 38:24
Flysimware 414AW 47:57
This footage was created by a real world commercial pilot and current commercial flight instructor. Although you may use this for learning purposes, it is recommended as guidance only and should not substitute any training from your ATO. It is intended to merely provide an insight into real world commercial training operations at a school we are familiar with and to enhance your desktop simulator experience. We are in no position to share or copy any company-specific data. If you are a trainee Private or Commercial Pilot, please refer to your approved training/company documentation ONLY.
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Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
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If a dev studio don't want to put in extra effort to keep their product up to date with the latest sim update then I'm not willing to put my money in their wallets. The market and profits are tremendously larger than ever before with any other sim. More than enough to make up for the extra work needed to keep everything up to date, and they knew full well going into MSFS that this was and still is a very much work in progress thing. Especially now that Asobo seems to have slowed down with their sim updates there's no reason for any aircraft not to be up to date with the latest update.
Thanks @Fly From Home for making it easy to decide which addons to get :)
You’re welcome! Keep in mind that there are updates coming for lots of these aircraft at some point, so I’ll make a follow up video as soon as they drop.
Really enjoyed watching this like your original review videos.
Certainly hope JF get onto sorting out the arrows flight models.
Glad you enjoyed it and yes, I hope so too.
Wonderful video, and a very important topic for MSFS! The sim is always changing, and it is a big challenge for the 3rd party devs to keep up with it (and not lose money in the process). I did identical test flights with a lot of different planes a few days myself (focusing on hand flying, navigation systems and auto pilot for longer flights), and in the end only the 414AW with the PMS50 GTN750 and the Kodiak with the G1000 NXi were 100% positive for me.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video and yes, I think this will be a recurring topic for MSFS until the fundamentals become more stable.
18:40, I hope you’ve updated the video description of the original review. I appreciate the updated review here, too. 👍
Thanks for reminding me, I’ll have to edit those!
Excellent video, I enjoyed it very much. I flew my Warrior for the first time in a couple of months recently and noticed it was a bit "off". I wasn't sure why - but now I do lol. I really enjoy the 310R but it took a while to get used to the high speed landings. I'm still dithering over the C414AW. So many planes and not enough money.
I know that feeling! Glad you enjoyed the video.
For me enough money not so much time. There are really too many aircrafts coming and deciding wich one to use most is not easy.
Excellent! Thank you! I'll have to purchase the 414 some time. Good to know that the warrior was actually just not updated. It felt very weird! Thanks!
You’re welcome ☺️
I’ve just come back to the 414, having not flown it in nearly 6 months. It really is superb.
Yep, it just gets better and better.
I just had a similar problem with the prop failing to feather on the Milviz/Blackbird 310R. In my case, I think the problem was a little bit of jitter in the prop axis for my throttle quadrant. When I had my prop lever all the way to the bottom, the axis in the sim was jittering right around zero. Because it wasn't staying at zero, the sim was going in and out of feather and not fully stopping the prop. I solved that issue by applying a -2% extremity deadzone to the prop axis. That way, the axis reaches zero slightly before my prop lever hits the full-aft position.
I’ll have to give that a try! Thanks!
I've been using the JF warrior for my flight training and it's been a disaster getting worse with every patch - try stalling the damn thing! At least I can still practice my procedures... I do hope they get on top of this asap. From a quick read on the forums it looks like they're waiting on Asobo to answer questions and like you said, they're waiting for a more stable release. I hope it's soon!
Yeah I figured a lot of student pilots would be having those issues. And yes, I hope they get it sorted soon, I miss the days of flying them around and feeling like I’m sat in the real thing. Good luck with the PPL!
Great video, very enjoyable! I guess I need to try the Seneca out again!
Unfortunately Just Flight are really slow on the updates, looks like they are fully concentrated on releasing new aircraft instead of fixing/improving the old ones. Very disappointing tbh.
The Seneca is a real budget gem, absolutely recommend it. I have my fingers crossed for something from JF soon-ish.
JF are in the process of working on the Pipers *right now*.
Great video. You do some really great content! Criminally undersubbed imo.
Love the 414, easily the best GA aircraft available atm.
Thank you sir, much appreciated. Love the pfp/username btw 😂
@@FlyFromHome haha, thanks.
Does this Aircraft and MSFS have a 3D cockpit with 6 DOF as DCS has?
I believe it’s a similar setup, yes.
Thank you very much - very helpful for choosing an aircraft. All In for the Chancellor
Absolutely 👍🏻
Feels good to have someone like you confirm my feelings about the Piper. Would feel even better if they fixed the aircraft.
Yep! I’m sure they will at some point.
There was an update in the last weeks that improved the handling again. Luckily! I like theese SEPs very much, and now they feel better again. Not as good as they were, but better at least.
Thanks for the vid. There are two aeroplanes I really look forward to flying in MSFS, the Flysimware C414 and the PMDG 737s. I had high hopes for the Black Square Beech King Air 350, but unfortunately, though good, it has a bit of improving to do to reach the Premier League that the other two sit in. Imo it also has a lot to do with the comfort in knowing how to operate these types. There are a few more that I both enjoy flying and rate too, the Milviz310 is one of these.
I think the Black Square does very well given that it exists inside the skin of a default aircraft, but yes it’s not quite on the 414’s level. The PMDG is something that I was bought to practice for a job interview and understand almost nothing about, but it’s fun to throw around the circuit if nothing else 😂
The King Air needs to be able to couple the AP in NAV mode rather than simply in heading select in all modes. It is confusing atm, but I still enjoy it. The PMDG 737s are as near to real as I want tbh. I’m not too bothered about how they hand fly, as personally we rarely did it anyway, it was often AP on as soon as we could and unless visual it was disconnect in the last thousand feet. The KA 90s I flew were single crew without APs, the 200s required one, or a second pilot. Which I thought was daft, as they were nicer/easier to hand fly than the 90s! But what do I know? 😊
I'm curious what you think is a better purchase for the "commercial lite" gameplay niche, the Flysimware 414 or the Black Square King Air.. Or something else I haven't considered.
I think the 414 is one of the best aircraft in the sim flight-dynamics and system wise so I always lean towards that, although the King Air is easily the best turboprop we have right now.
I guess great minds think alike I guess. The 414AW is my aircraft of choice when flying on Pilotedge. Probably fly it 8 of 10 flights. The 310 gets the other two flights.
Well I’d struggle to call myself a great mind, but I can absolutely agree with the greatness of the 414 😂
Maybe Carenado should team up with Black Square... Match made in heaven.
Carenado external model with Black Square systems and interior 😍
Great video, nice to see a revisit of payware stuff more recently due to changes or improvments or not due to sim changes.
I often still fly base aircraft of MSFS due to lack of funds atm, those base aircraft included in base game, can range from in my view from Absolutly terrible what were they thinking, to really bad, bad, not so bad, fair to middling at best.
They seem to change with sim changes.
When using base aircraft I tend to use Caravan 208, TBM930, 172's and DA62 mostly on the base stuff. The new Airbus 310 really hits my FPS though so don't use it.
Each base aircraft seem to either have some major issues with handling or throttle control, UI or Autopilots, or just bounce around too much even in low wind. As for Jet use the super free community Flybywire a320 which is very nice to fly and super fidelity for a community project and thier launcher for updates is a delight.
A 2023 review of all base aircraft (if anyone can stomach making it would be nice).
My top payware wishlists from hundreds of hours of YT reviews clearly seem atm to be:
-C414
-C310 (Milviz)
-Fenix a320
-BA146 Pro (althought the RJ's are coming?)
-PMDG's 737's but FPS hit, costs for 3 model varients drop those lower down the list for me.
-Kodiak 100 (is meant to be pretty good) but others take a high priority on my wishlist at the moment.
It is shocking how bad some base or even payware aircraft are especially those with bad flight controls, no updates and price they want still for them, so you really do need to do your homework if you not having Dev's throw copies at me lol.
Super thanks for a great video and content - definitely a very informative, and useful video. (post-recording for these type of vids was great) 👍
PS. In my 50's now and rather poor, but I did my PPL back in early 2000's and dearly miss my flying days - out of Wycombe EGTB with the old BA airrways air school at the time.
Thanks for taking the time to write this out! There was a big TBM930, CJ4 and Citation Longitude update recently that added a lot of functionality to them, I’d recommend giving them a go if you haven’t recently. Also there’s the DA62X free mod by mrtommymxr on flightsim.to which is absolutely worth getting.
@@FlyFromHome Yea I got and use the DA62 mod although its a bit twitchy & underpowered on approach still it seems, use the TBM too, they certainly improved the base aircraft but still someway off the payware (with exception of FBW IMO).
Thank you, great content as always!
You’re welcome!
Have hundreds of hours on the warrior and arrows, but it was 20 years ago. So good it's not only me having the feeling that it is a bit off
Yeah it’s not quite right at the moment. Fingers crossed they get it sorted.
I can't get *any* aircraft to actually feather at the moment - even if they graphically feather there's no change in trim taking the prop in & out of feather, CfD or no CfD, doesn't seem to matter.
One that didn't show up - Boeing 247, still works the same but the developer seems to have fallen off the planet, so at some point a sim update might break it & nobody is suer the aircraft will be fixed.
JF are working on ground handlnig for the Hawk right now, I guess they might update the PA28s for that at least. Everything you said about the Arrow is true of the Hawk too, like they have practically no wing loading ( I have complained about the turbulence handling to them for a while, so I hope it's on a list... ). There's a continual discussion about the Warrior performance - I think you have to test it out to sea because it's ( like the others ) so sensitive to MFS atmospheric effects - my Warrior certainly doesn't 2000fpm unless I'm ridge soaring it :S - I just tried it out at sea, full tanks, full load ( as per book ) & it held 500fpm at 80kts - so there's something a bit more going on there.
Cessna 337 is just ok, feels like every other Carenado plane, not terrible but just not amazing.
Is your gear lever bust btw? :D
Cheers Rich, interesting regarding the feathering. Gear lever… what am I missing now…?
Thanks for the nice updates. JF is working on new updates on the Flight Models to remove that pitch Jerk. Testing it on the Arrow 3 and it seems to be working really well, sp lets hope it gets pushed to live soon.
Gotto say that the choice between the 310 and 414 is a very hard one. The FM of the 414 sounds lot better to me, i own the Kodiak and that thing too is super pitch sensitive, not fun to handfly. The 310 itself does look a bit better imo. Aaargh, choices haha
That’s good to hear, hopefully JF get the update out to everyone soon. Of the two, my favourite is the 414 (as you may have guessed) but the 310 is still absolutely excellent. There’s a big update on the way for it too apparently.
They released the update on Monday of this week and it still doesn't fly that great imo
Excellent survey. Very useful.
Thanks!
Seminole and Seneca are my fav ones, such a joy to fly Carenado, been using their products for years
Yep, they’re both very good considering the price.
Watch it back and go to the start of each time stamp. Reoccurring words 😂 "Okay, so"
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Since you mentioned the issues with the Just Flight Arrow III, how does the Carenado Arrow III compare now in 2022? Thanks for the reviews.
I’ve not actually tried the Carenado Arrow, but that is a good question. The Carenado aircraft seem to be less affected by the changes in the sim.
My Beech V Tail was bouncing around so much I almost was sick lol
Oh dear 😅
Yep, the small Carenado planes have the same pitch bounce issue as the Just Flight ones. C337 also can be pretty nasty at times.
Carenado are very frustrating in that they never seem to actually patch anything these days
That’s true, but weirdly enough they seem to actually benefit from the sim patches while every other plane gets broken by them 😅
Thanks great review!
Thank you 😊
Grest video. thank you.
can you change how your yoke is set up?
Yeah there’s lots of different options in the game settings.
You've demonstrated several examples why I have never converted to MSFS2020. Quite frankly, I experienced pretty much the very same 'evolutions' while heavily investing in 'FSX'. Though I did buy a new 'gaming pc' to accommodate what I thought would be a 'sure thing', I never 'bought into it. I watch patiently for well over a year, and I've seen the very same 'growing pains, I experienced with FSX and all the 'payware'.. Not going there again. The scenery is about the only 'real' improvement, and quite frankly for a 'sim', MegaSceneryEarth does well enough considering that investment and what I'd spend to buy all new 'payware'.. Good video though. Thank you for your efforts!
I think there are plenty of fantastic features in MSFS but plenty of pitfalls too. If you’re happy with your current sim, why change? 😊
??? I don’t really get it, but everyone has a opinion :)