The 3D Printer I'd buy if I started over
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3D printing can be intimidating but it doesn't have to! In this video I show you exactly which printer I would recommend to any beginner, what to do next, and how to get yourself hooked on the tech. I believe that a 3D printer is a valuable tool addition to ANY shop.
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Finally someone that understands that 3D printers are a tool. So many 3D printing channels treat it like its the endgame where as for the rest of us its the starting point
Yeah because everyone get the ender 3 when you are a beginner and then you find your self fixing the machine every day.
It is good that we have here great people who use 3d printing... for what? If you can not use screwdriver, why do you need 3d printer? What for? To print Anime figures? Why even bother, just order one on a print farm. No?
Depends on the person. I like it as a tool, I rather spend my time modeling, than working the printer. For my brother, who has always been about tinkering with stuff, likes changing everything up, and than rarely use it.
There is no right or wrong, but I will say this, yes there is a lot of content out there how you can improve your printer etc, but let's be honest, what other videos should they make? Do 3d model reviews? Sure some storage systems etc get some attention, but aside from that, people want to know more about their printer.
And even if you are someone who uses it as a tool, there are still things you want to improve about your printer, or add some customization to.
You think differently when you just like to own a 3D printer with no real need for it.
Exactly, it is not much different from a CNC mill or router, you get one as a tool to make other things, the CNC mill is not the purpose of getting one, the purpose is to use it to make other things.
I just found your channel and it’s fascinating to see the scale of your print farm! I’ve been messing around with 3-D printers for about the last nine years and last year bought a Bambu lab X1c which paid itself off about five times over in the first couple of months! It’s definitely a fantastic machine if you know what use it for. Congratulations on your business, it’s always inspiring to see people making a living doing what they enjoy.👍
I'm 56yo and just started. Mate thanks for the information, yes I have had some failures, but have started to sort them out. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
I've been printing for a couple of years now, just bought a new printer and was up all night watching videos...this was the MOST impactful video I watched ALL evening! I've been hot over Bambu labs but this guys explanations are just top tier and really got me going. Great commentary!
That's strange because the guy has no clue what he's talking about. And responds like a scam artist when you confront him. Couple of things you should be aware of.
He compares a MK4 to an X1C whilst they are totally different classes of printers. 1 has: enclosure / accelerometer / filter / camera / microLIDAR / ... the other one does not.
He also suggest the most ridiculous thing ever, that is to buy a MK3S+. When for €100 more you can get the newer MK4 version. Because If you want to upgrade the MK3S+ to MK4 at a later time, you will have to pay €750. So really strange for him to even suggest buying a MK3S+.
Great information! As someone who has been looking at the Bambu Lab printers for a while, this is very helpful. Also, I'm digging the new studio setup! It looks awesome!
Great "bedside manner"; simple, information solidly presented. No fluff, and easy to understand. Good job!
As someone looking to move up to bigger and better from their Ender 3, I appreciated this video! I especially appreciated your understanding that I want to 3D print for my hobbies, not as a hobby.
Idk i have an ender 3. But i also have worked on cartesian robots professionally so i guess thats why i feel like upgrading my printer myself rather than buying a new one. Plus it was a gift from my lovely wife.
@@johnhummel99build an annex
@@johnhummel99I think is exactly the pseudo divide in the market of consumers. Some people want to buy and play with their machines, while some people just want to use them. I absolutely hate my ender 3 v2, but I dont regret buying it at all.
Bambu A1 combo if you just want to hobby print.
@@Loot_OW Same, I spend more time getting it setup then actually using it. Im starting to use it more and its such a drag. Trying to decide on the Prusa or the Bambu still.
Stumbled on this video while trying to decide what printer to buy. The set design, the content, and the delivery are all on point. Thank you!
Yes...I liked and subscribed.
Thank you from a newbie to 3D printing. Your video made sense to me and is allowing me to go forward on my journey to 3D Printing.
Ive been printing for a couple of years now but this video was still so good! Very well presented and explained, and good points.
Great video, I've had the MK3 since they first came out and it just keeps on working. Hundreds of spools later and still no real issues!
Thanks for making the video. Its craz you are getting 1 out of 15 people giving it a thumbs down. Its not sponsored, you own a farm of them, and you didnt beat around the bush. Im researching my first printer and deciding between the Bambu and the Elegoo since it's half the price and people comment its reliable. Im just afraid this is another tool that collects dust so I hate to spend $700 and only use it a few times.
I bought a Prusa back in 2014 when they where just taking off. Still works great. I do have to manually level the bed. I use Blender to create the parts I want to print. Blender does have a learning curve but well worth it in the end.
Very well balanced video for starters. I've started two years ago with a Prusa Mini+ Kit. For the same reasons you've mentioned: Affordable, reliable, track record, and the kit get's you familiar with the printer for future maintenance.
Which apparently you won’t need to do, according to Prusa users.
Concise, helpful information, delivered with an easy pace and flow, a sane educated tone, wrapped in great production values. Nice work, and just what I needed to know. Bravo!
Brilliant video! I really liked how you approached the subject and I loved how your "experiential wit" made this really fun to watch. I think you really hit on a key point for many which is: "How do I make things that are actually useful with this?" and not just waste filament printing plastic trinkets with little purpose beyond adorning a knick-knack shelf. Thank You for sharing this valuable knowledge you gained through real world experience!
Absolutely bang on. Have the Ender 3 S1 Pro and truly enjoyed the few months of seeing something around the house that needed *something* and being able to just sit down in Fusion and create a solution. That said, I got tired of tinkering with it. Leveling the bed, tuning the settings, etc. That coupled with the iterative nature of creating something from scratch and the time it takes to print 1 of anything slowly killed my interest in doing it. One of the Bambu models are definitely on my radar for purchase soon.
This is exactly my story as well. I have been running my S1 Pro 24/7 now for long enough that I know the next jump up will be worth it.
Yep. E3Max here, love the huge build volume but the iterative process plus dumb mistakes since I'm new to 3D design often makes a project take far longer than it should. The last piece I printed was 8h, and would have been 12h if I had 100% infill, like I wanted. Took me 3 days and 4 attempts to get it right. I ran the same file through the Bambu slicer with the same settings and it said 2.5h. I could have made those same mistakes and finished the project in a day with a Bambu. It's definitely on my list.
Started with an S1 Pro in November and probably spent more time tinkering and maintaining it than actually printing. Got a P1P in March and wish I'd done it sooner.
I 100% recommend getting the P1P if you only ever really print PLA and PETG. It's an amazing piece of kit, incredibly reliable and the best investment I ever made. Although I wish I had gone for the X1C, since all my upgrades have cost me so much, an X1C would only have been 200€ more than my P1P with all upgrades, and offered significantly more. But oh well, with hindsight, you're always smarter.
@@rtardjuice Same here. Just added the Sonic Pad (BIG Mistake) luckily, I can send the SP back. I am tired of tinkering. I have learned a lot in a short time, but I have better thing to do. Ordering an X1C today. Great video, just what I needed to push me over the edge.
Thank You! As an older general contractor, I've been considering a 3d printer for years for both my business & my hobbies but I struggle with computers (heck- i can't even make a simple excel spreadsheet without help). Your information is extremely helpful and I'm going to save this vid for when I do "take the plunge"(soon).
Its a difficult road but a road worth taking
That was an awesome run down and so gratifying to hear someone in the industry telling me about things from a functional application point of view! I am yet to buy my first printer but loved the confidence building. As a retired research scientist, I have done the comparative research and the Bumbu P1P was my pick all-be-it for the most bang for my buck, economic reasons. Thank you for the video and now subscribed!😃
carbon rails degrading is s real problem with the model
I'm sorry you got duped. The video is full of misinformation.
This video is great! I've been considering getting a printer and starting my own workshop but didnt know where to start. Thanks so much! I look forward to making my first purchase and following more of your content!
I just bought my first printer about 3 weeks ago, an ender 3 v2 neo. I've already printed repair parts for a machine at work, joycon repair parts, etc. I've already swapped the firmware, converted it to direct drive and have started learning to use carbon fiber reinforced filament for wear resistance. I am definitely enjoying the journey.
Although a Prusa was on my short list of models, in the end, the neo was the only one I could afford. If I can start to monetize this in my area, I will definitely be looking at the P1P - that speed is amazing.
So 10 months later, how are you liking the ender 3 you bought? I'm stuck on what to buy and just found out about the ender 3 v2.
@@mattz8956 still like it, mostly. Kind of left it alone through the winter.
I've switched to klipper and octoprint, which works great. The petg carbon fiber filament is my favorite to print with, it just works. The Ereyone brand grey petg, not so much. Just haven't used it nearly enough, but when I need it, it is so useful.
I need to order some decent pla for the simple jobs, I tried going straight to petg, but it is unnecessary for most projects.
@@kstricl thanks for the info! Good to know it still works. I don’t have a super strong interest in 3d printing so the $600 price range is a bit much so I think I will go with the ender. Have you had any issues with it before?
@@mattz8956 Just the learning curve mostly. The first firmware swap I did was to, I believe, mriscoc. Look up Zeltroix, he's done a ton on the neo v2. I also recommend getting a model with bltouch, it makes life so easy when it comes to leveling the build plate, homing the z axis, etc.
I built my Mk3S+ - thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the insights into the workings of the machine were invaluable. I did have one problem (one of the PSU connectors was reversed from the factory), but Prusa's tech support sorted the issue after a couple of rounds of emails and troubleshooting.
And it's chugging away as I type.
Prusa was my first printer after watching family members struggle with cheaper printers. Now i have an xl and its amazing. Probably overkill.
@@scooterpinball i don't really get the thing with "struggle with cheap printers" thing, mine was 150 bucks work perfectly fine. Printed things from big to small as 6mm (gears- for a laminator, replacement gears for a face trimmer) to Glass shower hinge replacement parts to decoration, wall mounted shelves/phone holders etc etc So hobby level stuff in general but i have NEVER had any issues with it. Maybe some tiny "problem" with overhang capabilities but nothing supports, or general design work to minimize overhangs can't fix. Ain't gonna spend 1k+ for a hobby machine that a 150 one can do just as good with a TINY bit more effort.
I stumbled onto this; and you nailed it!! I just purchased my first 3D printer; you were talking direct to! Thank you for the insight! Looking forward to learning from you!
Great video. One of the best ways to determine how reliable a 3D printer is, put it in a makerspace. There you will get 10's of people who range from noobs, to experts, to people who think they're experts. If the printer can survive a couple weeks, it is remarkable. I agree, the Prusa is considered super reliable, but it was our most troublesome in the makerspace. The TAZ did quite well. A couple months ago we got rid of all the various machines and bought 3 P1Ps. They have been incredible. The only print failures we have seen were do to bad filament, incorrect bed section (wrong temperature) and poorly designed models. No nozzle clogs at all! Everyone is happy with the P1Ps, which is really something in a makerspace with 300 people.
I agree on all points and own a Bambu Lab X1-Carbon. I have 5 other printers as I got into 3D printing years ago.
I will add that having cheap printers and learning how they work and modifying them to be better, I learned a great deal. That being said, I understand some people don't want to learn and just want to print.
recommend the best printer to get started on? budget doesnt matter i dont want a cheap one just to save money but takes more time to learn and get familiar with the machines, money is no option i just want the easiest to use with best results and ability to know what the limits are in 3d printing...the p1p good enough for a first timer without being overwhelmed and discouraged to keep going? ive seen lots of ppl praising bambu
@@shane_wc without out a doubt the easiest to use is Bambu. It just works
I'm tired of constantly tinkering with my ender 3. So you're saying I'll love a bambu ? Lol
@@mattice9083 I guarantee it. It's like going from an old tube TV without cable to a 4K OLED
@@Bennett_Lab I've been working on a 3d printed flight yoke and pedals for weeks now cause I've been wasting days trying to level and calibrate my ender 3. I just can't waste 2 hours calibrating and 5 hours waiting on the print only to have it be like 70% decent lol can't wait to buy one
I also agree with your printer recommendations 100%. I’ve been telling my customers the exact same thing. Love what Bambu has done to the market.
Great video, I was just watching some random video's about 3D printing and then I watch this one and you recomend the printer I have right next to me. Thx for the great video and keep making these types of videos to help starters learn about the world of 3D printing.
The new right answer is the P1S. It's enclosed and works with the AMS multi-spool system for $699. Basically the X1 Carbon without the Lidar and fancy touch screen for $450 less. Just ordered one.
I moved up from an Ender 3v2 to the P1S and I love it.
@@slosubies4845 I have an Ender 3v2 as well, but it pretty much stays on the operating table.
And it uses 1300 W. My Mega S was 115$, uses about 150 W and is enough for a beginner and occasional prints.
@@DanSlotea I'm not familiar with the Mega S, but since you're (justifiably) bringing up electricity cost, a faster printer that fails less often may spend less time ultimately printing, and thus use less electricity over time, just more when you need it.
Where I live a P1S is just about 10x the price of an Ender 3
I bought a P1P after dealing with a low cost unit and I cannot recommend it enough. All the constant headaches are gone and I can just get things printed out. I am printing constantly & bonus it is faster and quality is so much better. Additionally there is a Opensource fork of the Bambu Labs slicer with all the features and added calibration tools that really gets these things dialed in.
So true
I have completely stopped using my other 3d printers once I got a P1P. It's been 6 months and I dread using my creality machines if my P1P is busy.
My plan is to get a P1P alongside a Kingroon KP3S Pro V2 (not gonna lie, i just want to buy it because is cute).
@@kongchho8547 Have you had to fix your P1P much?
@@lorcster6694 Not really. Just cleaned the rods once since it gets dusty in my office. But with the P1S it's enclosed so that's not an issue. I have at least 2000 hours of printing on it. However, it's different for everyone but there's a reason why almost every 3d print youtuber has one in background.
I really appreciate the info in this video. I already have my first, but the info was still really good and I appreciate the perspective of someone with a lot more experience.
I went with the P1S/AMS combo after a bunch of research. And it was so beyond worth it in my opinion. 100% agree with your suggestion.
Started with a P1P earlier this year. Worked flawlessly and it was fast. I was so impressed I added an X1C w/AMS. I use this as a tool, not a hobby so it needs to run and I don't have time to tweak like my previous 3D printer.
I think this is what the folks that crack on the Bambu stuff don't get - there's a whole bunch of us out there that want to print as a hobby or a source for parts. Not all of us want to have to constantly tweak the machines to get acceptable results. I'm a mechanic, I don't want my hobby to be another frustrating job. Bambu solved that.
The AMS is a game changer! The multi-color print options opened up a whole new areas of ideas for me and they are paying off.
This is the reason why I bought the x1c. I didn't want to tinker to no end. I got other stuff I want to do or have to do. This was my second printer and I love it. I've had more successful prints than bad with minimal tinkering. And I got the ams which I haven't even fully used yet but I do like the potential things I can print with it.
@@the_naP This. We have around a million dollars of CNC machines and didn't need a project. So we bought an X1C and it's been largely without issue.
Just got the P1S combo and I honestly can say it's the best bang for your buck. Even without multicolor, the AMS handling auto-switching filament feature when running out is worth it imo. All for $949 which is cheaper than an assembled MK4
One other great aspect of Bambu is their replacement parts are surprisingly affordable! I will say though I have been eyeing Sovol lately as the ultimate budget printers.
Damn you hit the nail on the head at the start. I hesitated on getting a 3D printer for a few years because I thought "what would I even do with it?"
Now that I have a few, I'm printing everything from decorative pieces, to functional things like scrapers and drawers, and even things that are simultaneously decorative AND functional, like beautifully sculpted boxes that have visually appealing designs on them, or a desk organizer shaped like a castle with dragons scaling the towers. I have Fusion 360 and I've cut my teeth on taking 2D images and extruding them into 3D objects and successfully printed them, but soon I want to learn more and make a lot of small but useful things to put around the house.
fusion is a love/hate relationship for me. and once you try solidworks or rhino... i can see why people move away from fusion. its just the software that gets people in the door trying it. the stuff ppl don't talk about as much like rhino ... is because it sells itself. they don't need to push it.
As a 3d printer nerd from the old days when we built our own and, having had many printers over the years I found this a Very informative video, and an recomendation based on experience and common sense. Thanks👍
This was a huge help for me, I have been kicking this around for several years.
I have a CNC and I have a laser and am always looking at small upgrades people have done, even a wrench holder and then they offer you the file.
I really wanted to be under 1k to start, as I am still paying for a CNC and a Laser.
P1P was 599.00
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Of course, I spent nearly 800 because I mean what’s the point of getting no filament
I started on an Ender 3 kit, bought it in 2017 and it has been phenomenal this whole time especially for the price. I paid 180 bucks back then and the prints out of the box were great.
I saw some videos of people showing modifications and upgrades the Ender 3 would need in order to run smooth and consistent but luckily I was able to print most of them with that same printer just like that lol
Bed levelling was never an issue for me somehow. I always do the thing where you use a piece of paper and make sure the pressure is the same in all corners, really not a big deal but I see how people can get it wrong. It's just one of those things you have to get right and you can't skip that part.
I've got some heavier bed springs coming for $6 and I've got a direct drive for $20 that I have yet to fit. Bed leveling has never been an issue with the glass bed plate.
@@potrzebieneuman4702about the bed springs - what are they supposed to achieve exactly? I'm running stock springs and have no idea how making them stiffer / heavier would improve anything.
@@Chretze like you I'm not having any problems with the stock springs, but for AU$6 I thought why not. I think the reason many change their springs is to do with the frequency of bed leveling but I've also found that a glass bed reduces the number of bed leveling as well. I'll try it for $6 and see what happens.
@@potrzebieneuman4702 I see, cheers mate!
Spot on video! I have a similiar background and experience and if I could WORDS better this is exactly how I would do talking! But seriously, I get questions all the time from people who want to get started printing and ask me my recomendations and instead of rambling for an hour and winding up down an engineering rabbit hole, I just point them to this video. Saves me from having to see the look of terror set in on someones face when they realize that they are now trapped in a conversation with a mega geek that they may not get out of. Thanks man!
Great video! I got some information from it. I am a NEW beginner. I looked at 3D printers a few years ago and was disenchanted with all the "tinkering". I don't mind a little tinkering, but if that is all you do is tinker and tweak the machine to get it to work properly, that is very frustrating, especially if you are a newbie to the craft. I have a CNC router and that's all I seem to do is tinker and tweak. When it is set-up properly, it is wonderful, but that is rare it seems. Anyway, I was hopeful that these Bambu Labs machines will eliminate most of that.
I started with an ender 3 v2, had a good amount of fun before I got tired of failed prints on a slow base printer. Had no desire to learn upgrading, and bought an x-1 carbon w/AMS. The x-1 carbon has been so damn amazing. I can iterate designs as needed, and they print so damn beautifully fast. I love it.
Same here. Finally getting into designing and printing as a hobby and not just waste time on tuning and fixing that piece of crap
@@nipshardaf Nothing wrong with enders if you know what yer doing... A better fan and ditch the plastic extruder and it works fine. The one I have at work prints 8 hours a day 5 days a week without issue so... yea. Also a slight difference between a $300 printer and a $2000+ printer 😂
@@Lomax81agree
Seriously my ender is a workhorse and I paid like 125 for it@@Lomax81
Definitely interested in this. Just for myself, I want to be able to print fixtures for hanging tools on my wall, or make that little part to fix a garden cart... etc. I see so many uses. I so completely suck at 3d modeling though! I might have to see about that education you recommend. I'm definitely going to focus on either the Bambu Lab or the Prusa, so you've at least narrowed down my search. I can't thank you enough for that!!!
Clear information, no BS and most importantly... unaffiliated. Just ordered the P1P based on your video. Thanks!
I am getting ready to purchase my first FDM printer... been doing Resin for a few years and made the fun discovery of being allergic to resin recently, so no longer an option. I have been looking at the Bambu P1P and P1S as well as the X1C... thank you for making this video
You become allergic if you are exposed to it and arent filtering out the fumes. What resin were you printing with?
@urjnlegend AnyCubic grey. Not the plant based stuff.
Hi, nice video. I have had several printers and now on a Zortrax M200 that I used professionally.
I would definitely get an enclosed model with a filter if your going to run your printer @ home, ABS stinks. I wouldn't get side tracked by 'multi-colour' capability unless you really really think you need it. You rightly highlight first layer success as the #1 beginner problem -nightmare back in the day...
I successfully used "TinkerCad" as the models I needed were not too complex and it has the advantage of being so simple you don't forget how to use it if not designing anything for a while...
This is great advice for someone who isn’t looking to tinker with a printer constantly. I have a Prusa, an Ender 3 v2, and an Anycubic Vyper, and of the three, the Prusa has been my least finicky machine. The Ender also worked great stock, but was a bit too slow for my tastes, so I’ve modded it extensively. The Vyper has been nothing but constant headaches.
After modding the ender 3, do you think it is worth the money compared to the other brands that is more expensive but already comes fully upgraded?
I went for the Prusa MK4, expensive , but it prints right out off the box, absolutely no tinkering.. this is my first 3D printer
Wanted to thank you for this video. I used your suggestion and bought the P1S and have been enjoying it since day 1. I knew almost nothing about 3d printing and now well I still know almost nothing but I have been able to print models downloaded from printables and the like. I have also started learning Onshape and have designed and printed usable items. The most satisfying having been an overly complicated screw fastener for kitchen aid dishwasher. Again thanks for the info.
Great info and delivery. It’s what I was looking for friend. I love tools that allow me to create, modify and repair… this has been on my want list.
Thankyou.
In the last storm we had, a part of the raindrain of the roof was fractured. I 3D scanned it, worked on it a bit and 3D printed the piece that was broken. I went to 5 stores before i went on the scanning and printing route. The first 3 said " it was too old and couldnt be bought anymore" while the other 2 said they could get it but it would cost about 250 dollars. .... yeah... So i went with 3D printing.. it cost me about 4 $. so yes printing fantasy stuff and cosplay stuff is grand and all but using it for everyday issue and problems that need to be solved, is way more fun.
People who buy products and review them always earn my trust. I dont like sponsored products. Thank you Sir for your valuable information.
What you said about how manually setting the print bed and adding 3rd party components is a brain curiosity killer is the truest thing I’ve heard all year. As an ender 3 owner I’ve lost so much interest in 3D printing, but now I want to buy myself something from prusa or bambulab. Beautiful video
Same here, I've had an Ender 3 Pro for probably 3-4 years now.. It was fun at first, but damn near just felt like a tedious gimmick after a while. But I learned enough from it to impress my boss, he told me to choose any printer for our department and he was putting me in exclusive control of it. In the last 2 months, I've gotten more work out of our new X1-Carbon than I did in the entire life of my Ender 3 and I absolutely love the thing. Hell, sometimes I go in on Saturdays just to screw with it.
Voron. Daksh looks promising as a toolchanger and ercf is very similar in function to AMS.
Yep, I got a Sovol SV06 for my first printer. While it worked great for awhile, it eventually got to the point of having a new issue every week along with constantly needing to re-calibrate it, get a new part to improve it, or dig for hours to try to find an answer to some obscure problem. I just got sick of this at a certain point and haven't printed anything for months, but I finally pulled the trigger on a Bambu Lab P1S and can't wait to (hopefully) print without all the constant troubleshooting
@@ericosborne4122 After a month of owning the p1p, I’ve been printing nonstop without any problems so far. You will not regret this
I ordered an ender plugged it in to do a test and then I mailed it back and got a kobra 2 pro. It blew my mind how much better it was for the same price
Great video. Prototyping and designing usable parts is almost all of what I use my 3D printer for.
As someone that is thinking about getting into 3DP, this was FANTASTIC. Hit all the points I've been wondering about, even "how am I going to model stuff??" I was pretty sold on getting a Bambu X1C on black friday (hoping for deal), before but this has opened my eyes to the P1P.
How much cheaper are they on Black Friday? Not sure I wanna wait that long lol.
X1c or p1s … tough choice 😢
Thanks for the video! I just was handed down a 3D Printer. Put it together this past weekend and am TOTALLY lost as to how to actually print something lol. It just is so overwhelming... doesn't help that the printer I got is about 8 years old and has very little presence online (and I think the company no longer exists lol).
Anyway, I do appreciate videos like this that make it a bit simpler - the entire thing. Thanks again!
I have children that bought a 3d printer personally I didn't see the value in buying something so expensive it seemed like just another complicated toy they wouldn't really use. But now I am researching this because I am making my own sock knitting machine that to buy new would be $1200 but I can make for $60. I love that you mentioned the kit printer because one of the main problems my kids run into is how to problem solve when something goes wrong. I showed them your video and they were really intrigued as am I. Thanks for that.
Honestly, I bought my first printer for 1 purpose and that was to 3D print replacement parts for my RC cars when I broke them. Now, I 3D print and 3D model and make all kinds of things. Specialized tools and jigs, ham radio antenna parts, cases for electronics, tool organizers for all of my drills and batteries, shelf brackets, non conductive nuts/bolts/screws/washers, cable management devices for my racks at work and I even designed and 3D printed my own vertical axis wind turbine as a low cost green energy project. The point is, you start looking at stuff and thinking "I bet I could improve that" or "I bet I could print that" A LOT.
Great video. Thanks for sharing such clear information and useful recommendations. Your excellent pointers and reasons why investing a little more in your first printer makes sense are really helpful.
Thank you so much for this video! It helps a lot for a curious beginner. I'm definitely more excited about jumping into this new hobby.
Wow I’m looking to get into 3D printing and was looking at the Bamboo1C but after seen your video I’m getting the cheaper Bamboo to start. Thanks once again. I’m glad I found this video.
Great advice. Ive owned 9 printers total now, including 4 prusa, and i have touched nothing but my bambu P1p since getting it. Better, faster, cheaper. Prusa while requires less intervention, maintenance etc... than an Ender, still needed far more adjustment than basically 0 on the bambu.
It's the rule of FDM printing.. the more you initially spend, the less investment of time/money you have down the line with configuration.
Looking to sell any of the second hand used ones you don’t use?
Thanks for taking the time to make this video and review. I was researching reviews and or walk throughs on the Bambu P1S and came across THIS video. Well, after seeing it (and subscribing to your channel) I pulled the trigger and bought the P1S Combo this morning. You cost me some money today Bro.. 😎
Just stumbled across this video and thank goodness I did. I have an option of a P1S for £540 which is rough 3x my original budget but by the sounds of it, it'll suit my needs to learn and not be broken all the time. Thank you for your time
I have had an ender 3 for years and every time I use it, I have to mess with it (it usually collects dust) and now that I'm back in the firearms space and need to test designs out, I need something fast and easy with a lot of material capabilities, and you just made the decision easy for me. Thank you so much!
My Ender was almost my last printer. It was hard to use, constantly going wrong, and Creality sucks. Then I bought a Guider 2, then a Carbon X1. The Carbon was everything I had dreamed of in a printer.
If you already have the e3, it doesn't take too much to turn it into a great machine. I nearly went down the same road but fell into the rabbit hole along the way.
@@parsonk4041 I was never interested in becoming a printer systems engineer. All I wanted was to print stuff. The Bambu got me there.
It was worth flying your friend out to help with lighting and upgrading the space. These videos look SOOOO good in your new space!
Well this one you're a little too saturated (alot of it is also probably your red lighting in the room), but overall every one shot in the redone office looks great.
Though I still hope to see some shop greatness shot in the garage
Thank you! Definitely need to fine tune things
@@ShopNation wait. Are we friends?
@@wittworks🤣 legend
One of the best reviews on 3d-printers I have seen in the last 10 years.
I started printing with a 100% build kit (anet8) and have been printing with the Mk3 since it was produced
Loved the video and looking forward to more of your expertise. I followed your recommendations...well, most of them....I brought a Bambu Labs PSI Combo with the AMS and had it all up and running within the 15 minutes from unpacking the box to printing my first print with 2 minutes to spare just like Bambu Labs advertised. I started printing everything from poop containers, fridgets, signs, filament spools, and tons of other stuff along with a rack to hold up to 66 boxes/rolls of Bambu and Sunlu filament in their boxes. I've never owned or operated a 3 D Printer before. I've learned so much from trial and error with things like heater head temp changes to unclogging the head, changing build plate temps to help different filaments stick better or not. I printed off LED Risers in order to install more lighting in the print chamber. It's great and I love it. Thanks for all your help with your videos..... FYI, I've had the printer since the last week in Nov 2023 and as of today Feb 2024 I've used a little over 18 rolls of filament, printed hundreds of pieces and have 752 hours of print time on the P1S. I am proud to say that with that 752 hours of print time I've only had 3 issues with it and was able to solve those issues within a few hours. The P1S has been running almost continuously since I got it. I am definitely addicted to it. Now that I've practiced for the past 5 weeks almost non-stopped I'm thinking it's time to find a way to make a little money with this beautiful machine. Any ideas would be helpful..... Thanks again for all that you do......
There's an upgrade kit for the P1p to make it the P1S. Includes panels to enclose it, fans with carbon filter and camera for monitoring
prob would end up more expensive and time consuming
There's also some good fully printable upgrades for the P1S too which can really help close the gap
@@yo_vladit's $100 more. Totally worth it.
No matter what you do, Bambu Labs will be harvesting all your CAD data and cam footage. I know I love it when China steals my data... 🙃
I couldn’t agree more on prusa. I had a cheap printer and spent ages printing things to make it work correctly so I could print what I wanted, then bit the bullet and bought a mk3s+, and since I’ve owned the prusa I’ve printed a couple of cool baskets for it, but needed nothing outside of what it came with to make it work. Now I just print the things I actually want to print, and they come out geometrically correct (another problem with my old printer)
So back story, I sold my old 3D printer as it only had a 150*150*150 build plate and it was my first to learn how to design and 3D print. So, time for a new one as I had some prototypes to build and I saw this video and boom, pulled the trigger and bought a P1S with the added cabinet..Absolutely amazing, the slicer is so easy to use once you calibrate it and the speed and finish is amazing. Can’t wait to print the prototypes and have the engineering say “What, noooo wayyyy”. Thanks
I messed around with a DIY Delta printer about 6 years ago. Got it all together just to get stuck at the setup/calibration stage and gave up on it. Sold it for half of what I bought it for and haven't messed with anything else since.
However, now I am doing research to take the plunge into getting a unit for shoots-and-hoots. All this is to say that im gravitating towards the Bambulabs X1. It might be middle of the year before I can actually commit, but it pays to watch these videos now.
As a newbie, i watched your video and decided to go with Bambu. One month in and it hasnt stopped printing 24/7. Very happy with my purchase.
question which Bambu did you get? i'm also a complete newbie
@@dravickgarden6765 get the x1 carbon, don't think, just get it :D
@@neelqqqnow you have me thinking…
@@neelqqqdoes it come with the AMS without having to pay extra? what filament brand do you recommend for PETG and PLA
@@xxtomcatxx nah AMS is extra, and I mainly use Bambu filament if I can, it’s more or less the same price as esun and sunlu which i get from amazon, but way better. If you can get stock that is
Great video. You hit the main point, the Bambu is a tool that just works and is so easy to use. There are so few steps to printing something compared to other printers.
I've spent a lot of time and money getting my ender 3 pro as polished and reliable as possible with upgraded bed, direct drive, hardened all metal hotend, runout sensor, bed levelling, 32bit board and compiling my own custom firmware, slowly perfecting various slicer profiles for different materials- it's been quite a process and on the plus side I've actually learnt quite a lot from it. It now works well for a ender 3 but it's been a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get it to this point and it still can be a faff to use it.
The Bambu just worked straight out of the box, no upgrades needed, no tweaking, no tinkering, no experimenting, no learning it's foibles. It just works.
I never want to do any of that ever ever. I just want to print 3d modles and parts reliably. So Bambu or prusa it is I guess.
I bought an Ender 3 v3 KE. Fast, automatic bed leveling, hot bed, input shaping capable, hotend to handle a wide variety of filaments, and all the hacky support community of the creality enders, so its moddable.
Not as flashy as the bamboo, but half the price even of the cheaper bamboo (300 usd)
I think its great if you don't know yet how much you want to print, but if you do, you want your options. Ofc these bamboo stuff are also really great, especially if you just want to print and have the money.
watched this video when it came out with mild interest, i sure wish i would have paid attention. you described my evolution to a tee. started with an ender 3, endless troubleshooting, spaghetti and you tube videos later i am ordering the p1p. i agree 100% with the "kit" purchase advice as well. sooner or later you have to fix something and you will know where to start.
Great video. You basically described my entire issue with my Ender 3. I wanted to get into 3D printing to support my hobby of making 3D models and printing them, but it was clear the Ender was gonna have to become a second hobby in and of itself before anything meaningful could be done. The P1P is what I wish I had gotten back in 2020. Maybe I'll grab it...
Were you watching too many cartoons to be able to figure out how to use an Ender 3? What exactly was too difficult with the Ender 3 for you?
@@odinata Its more a matter of annoyance and timesink than difficulty. Constant fighting with bed leveling, issues with firmware when trying to get the auto bed probe to behave after buying it, things like that. Just more friction than the limited amount of time I wanted to dedicate to the task relative to its importance in my overall workflow. I eventually got a resin printer, which, while messier, was a lot easier to set and forget, and get usable results.
Basically any Crapality product is far more trouble than they're worth. From assembly to shoddy build material (my ender 3 would never keep a level bed no matter how much I tried, and the cr6-se tried its hardest to burn our house down...three times!) they just aren't a good choice. A Mingda Magician X is in the same price range as an ender, and you'll get a lot more use from it.
I like this type of feedback. You didn't just say the product isn't good and rant off, you provided a reasonable alternative. I finally got my first house in the past year and want to finally get into 3D printing. 1200$ for a hobby that I may or may not even like is beyond excessive, so as a beginner I have been looking heavily at the 150-300$ price range, instead of a new large debt. Its responses like yours that I use to build my list of possibilities. Thank you.@@MAGA_Patriot2024
@@bigeddthemonk glad to be of assistance. 😉
Dude, straight 🔥 Excellent video on the subject and I'll be sending people to this video now as well when they ask about 3D printing, lol.
Love your channel
You 3D print?
@@wittworks I did a quick search on his main page for "3D Print" (must be in "quotation marks"), and he has three videos that include 3D printing.
I won't be. I will never suggest an expensive printer to someone new to the 3d printing world. Most people give up after a while and swallowing the cost of a budget printer is more palatable than a high-end one.
Please don't - They will watch that and listen to.... "stuff" said, think that what's he's saying is true and buy that overpriced crap or prusa while there are so many more better and/or more affordable starting options.
Awesome video man! Much appreciated, I’m a fabricator by trade and see huge potential in the ability to construct jigs with printing! Can’t wait to get my hands on one! Thanks for sending me in the right direction
This is great, I already knew most of this stuff bit I appreciate the angle of looking at 3d printing not just for its own sake.
7:49 damn, I think this is the best transition I've ever seen for an ad.
No joke, it's the best segue I have ever seen. I wasn't even mad when I realized ^^
Agree 100%, got tired of manual levelling and troubleshooting addons/quirks. The p1p just works, click print and its done like a regular paper printer.
Awesome!! I'm in! You have given the best review of the subjext and why, what and who! Thank you for sharing your time, knowledge and experience.
This has to be one of the best videos on getting started with 3d printing...simple, to the point and with actual logical answers
Nailed it. I just upgraded my ender 3 to the bambu and I can honestly say I've printed more with the bambu in 4 weeks than I did for years on the ender. It works. It works well. The prints are amazing, it's easy to change filiment, it's easy to print all the types of filaments and the software is great too (bye octoprint). It's pricy but when you count all the upgrades needed to make an ender 3 even close plus the time I spent on debugging and fixing the stupid machine over the years it's a small price to pay.
I've run both Ender 3D & Anycubic Chiron without issues. Right out of the box, great print quality. I think most issues are with the software and users not being familiar with the settings for their particular job. Learning how to configure settings for a particular filament type and the part takes time no matter what 3D printer is used.
Love my Ender-3 as well
What version do you have?
I started printing a month ago with a Neptune 3 pro and so far no complaints from the machine, it was a good price I thought to get my feet wet the beginning was a nightmare and I wanted to toss it out the window. But with patience and a lot of videos I print something daily now. I’m currently printing d&d sword dice holder and it’s coming out great. Definitely going to look at one of those for the next upgrade
I found this video, THE BEST CHRISTMAS GIFT I GOT FOR 2023!!! 😃 I GOT ANKER M5 recently and I am learning, your video helps a lot, PLEASE KEEP MORE COMING!!! CHEERS! 🎉🏆🏅
Great video.
Love my original Prusa MK3 and MMU. Having to build it gives you invaluable experience. It even sat unused for a couple of years, got moved around etc. But printed okay the first time I printed again. A true work horse. But it needs some new parts, and I'd rather spend the money on the Bambu Lab X1C.
Then made the mistake of getting an Ender 3 Plus; great if you like spending more time tweaking it to get it work right than actually printing.
Just ordered my Bambu Lab X1-Carbon Combo 3D Printer - Starter Bundle, and can't wait for it to get here.
You got me in the first 2min. The reliability and something just working is something sooo undervalued, not only in 3d printing but I would say in DIY in general. As someone that around 6 years ago started my 3d journey I completely related with what you said. Until I bought my prusa MK3S most of my time I was doing exactly that , buying third party parts to upgrade the printers and constant fixes or calibrations. My prusa in 4 years needed to be fixed once, the thermal sensor, which was a 30 min job. They have great documentation that makes it easy to fix and build the printer. Currently I'm considering to expand and I'm quite divided between bambo and prusa, but due to their track record, quality, open source and constant software upgrades/deploy I'm inclined to go prusa 4, but the tesla looks amazing 😂
I've just gone for the mk4, it an awesome machine with a great pedigree. Bamboo, who ?
Out of thousands of comments, i just wanted to say im a new sub and I love your normal, raw, not sponsored approach to your videos.
Thanks so much for this video man. This was so helpful to me and I'm glad to have found it prior to making any purchases. Subbed !
100% agree with the P1P recommendation. I bought my daughter one and it's amazing. I started printing with an Ender 3 V2. While it was great learning about how 3d printers work but the P1p just straight works. It's fast, reliable and has amazing print quality. I'm planning on adding a Bambu Lab X1 soon. Great video and keep up the good work.
So true, I got into printing about 6 months ago, started with the ender 3 neo. I had no clue how much time was spent tinkering on the machine rather then the machine printing. If I were to start over I would spend the money up front and go with a k1 which is what I am going to move to eventually.
I've tried both the K1 and the P1P... personally on balance and if it were my money. I'd go with the P1P. It lacks a bunch of features that the K1 has, but it's just better built in every way. It is a very tight race though!
Definitely get the p1p you can add later the ams and the bambulabs support is way better.
picked up a Bambu labs X1 last week, OMG, its just so easy to use. Love the multi filament options. like you said, it all just works.
As someone that is about to take the plunge on one of these devices it's nice to here different points thank you
I have had the Ender 3 Neo for about a month now and I think it was a good starter printer because I did have to learn more about how it works in order to get it to print dimensionally accurate parts. I am an engineer, however, so I geek out on that stuff. I like to know what's going onside. For the price, I think it was a great investment for a starter but am already wanting to dive in and spend a little more. I appreciated this video. I think I will go with the kit for my next printer.
Haha exactly my path, just sold my neo to my little sister, but I'm so glad I learned on that printer first
Im a photographer its was the same for me with that. instead of starting with a $2000 or even a $1000 camera I went with a $600. it was a bad camera so i really had to get good with it to get the images i would easily would have got with a better one, but when I mastered that I got a $2000 one with my skills from my cheap camera I was doing some amazing stuff with the new camera. A lot of the other photographers im friends with had been it just as long as me but all of them jumped right into a high end camera and they all say im better because I have more skills witch was because of the way i learned
May go with the Bambu as both of my Toyotas were crap ;). One factor for me is the price, and lead times. I love my MK3, as it is reliable, but kind of wanting to support a company that has put forth some effort to make things better for the 3D printing community forcing other companies to do better.
My son wants a 3D printer and this video has been a big help in making my decision on what to buy. Thanks for your input and amazing video
Great video! I'm a total newbe, just thinking about getting a 3D printer and jumping into this hobby. I was really leaning towards the X1C until I watched this video and couple others. Now I'm really thinking about taking the plunge for a P1S.
The ender 3 pro has been doing wonders for me. I was told to look at it as a hobby so I wouldn't get frustrated with the failures. That thought process has been amazing. I have fixed, changed, and currently fixing things. I understand the functions so much better. But now I want to run an etsy shop, so I need reliability. This video has been super helpful
I'm in the same boat as you but with an ender 3 v2. I've decided to switch to resin printer to get more consistent results
My Ender 3 v2 worked from the moment I turned it on. I like to tinker, so I have modified it a little over time. It's reliable, prints well (I rarely have a failed print and it's usually my fault) and maybe a little slow, but I'm like most people and don't have $1000 or more to plunk down to get started. Unless I'm going to do commercial printing, I'll stick with it.
I bought an Ender S1. It wasn't a steep learning curve. I was printing well from the get go. I think I went a little overboard. I should of went with a Ender 3 v2. I'm so glad I didn't buy a Prusa.
@@poopoppy Creality printers have a lot of issues these days and the company is using the brand name to trick people into buying their printers, when you can get much higher quality ones for the same prices or less
@@blytical Yeah, probably. They are famous for poor quality control.
But you learn about how printers work, and most issues are easy fix, because of how big the creality community is.
1000 bucks on a first printer is overboard. I spent 400 on my S1, and that was a bit much.
As handy, and as cool as 3d printers are. Chances are they won't get used all that often.
It's not about any brand in particular. It's more the price point.
Ender 3 v3 SE looks pretty damn good for 200-220 dollar
@@TheMrMultione I actually just bought that one, and haven't had any issues. Set-up was incredibly easy, and the auto bed leveling is super handy. I was running perfects prints in under 20min. I have an Ender 3 Pro as well, so I knew a little about parts and stuff if I did run into problems, or wanted to mod it. But as is, it honestly doesn't need any mods, unless you plan on Printing more demanding filaments like metal.
When I tell you “I appreciate you!!” It’s an understatement. Thank you so much man. I was almost paralyzed from fear of buying a piece of crap, and almost gave up purchasing one. You are a gentleman and a scholar 🧐
Thank you.... ahhhh, Shop Nation Man. You are an excellent presenter and I will subscribe and check some more of your stuff. The information was exactly what I was looking for as I am new to (actually am starting to look for a printer now) 3D printing. What a timely video find.
Thanks very much and please make more. I loved every part of the video, even the commercial.