Driving 1000 Miles in 3 Cars: Gas vs Electric!

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  • čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
  • We drove a Tesla, a Mustang Mach-E and a gas car 1000 miles in a loop to see which was fastest. This was our road trip results!
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  • @JerryRigEverything
    @JerryRigEverything Před 2 lety +17291

    I think you should have let the EVs charge to max at the hotel. Since that's one of the perks of an EV. Most hotels have at least one destination charger that'll work with either plug.

    • @timothy3777
      @timothy3777 Před 2 lety +770

      Maybe they didnt work lmao

    • @robertide5182
      @robertide5182 Před 2 lety +398

      I wouldn't say most. I see maybe a quarter.

    • @naveenrajieapen2520
      @naveenrajieapen2520 Před 2 lety +547

      My exact thought. Kinda defeats the purpose of owning an EV. Haha

    • @razrxo
      @razrxo Před 2 lety +143

      Can't wait to the see the finished electric hummer Jerryyyyy

    • @Jry088
      @Jry088 Před 2 lety +63

      I was wondering about that too. But they would only save on one charging time and it had to be a perfect stop to maximize that. If they arrived with half battery then they're only charging up half.

  • @Moskito159
    @Moskito159 Před 2 lety +4999

    The graphics with the comparison of the 3 cars including the current level of battery are 10/10

    • @Tron-Jockey
      @Tron-Jockey Před 2 lety +17

      Since most people will rarely use their vehicles for such long range drives these tests do little to define real world scenarios especially for the person needing a dependable commuter car. Over 80% of EV owners charge almost exclusively at home. The reality is that most EV's used for commuter applications WILL RARELY EVER NEED TO USE A PUBLIC CHARGER. The kind of testing we need is a real world "convenience factor" test just for the commuter application. This would be a 6 month "commuter use" test of 225 miles round trip per day (this is obviously much longer than a typical commute but because there will always be some fossil fool who claims they need that much range per day to get to work). The EV's would of course be charged at home and have a full tank every morning before leaving their driveway. Also, the EV's would never need to stop at a public charging facility since the average long range versions are now good for roughly 300 or more miles per charge (412 miles per charge for the Tesla LR Model "S"). The ICE vehicles on the other hand will have to schedule at least two gas station stops every week. That sort of daily mileage with an ICE vehicle also means a scheduled oil change every 6 weeks (at least four oil changes in 6 months for the nearly 30,000 miles driven). So roughly 9 hours used to gas up (20 min per week x 26 weeks) and at least six hours wasted for the 4 oil changes (driving to and from a garage then sitting in its customer lounge waiting for the oil change or other routine maintenance). So to compare based on convenience the EV requires only 2 seconds of your day, one second to plug it in before going to bed and one second to unplug it before leaving in the morning (about 6 minutes of your life to maintain the EV over 6 months). A full tank every morning, warmed and defrosted before opening the garage door (try that with an ICE vehicle). THE EV REQUIRES NOTHING ELSE. However, by comparison the ICE vehicle will likely require its owner to be inconvenienced nearly 15 hours every 6 months. The disparity only grows with time. Thats 30 hours every year for the ICE vehicle. The average mpg for an ICE vehicle is 25 mpg so after 30,000 miles you're looking at a likely fuel bill of roughly $3600. Most non-performance EV's average 4 miles per kWh so that's 7,500 kWh at $0.11 per kWh or roughly $825 for the six months. For an ultra reliable commuter vehicle with the LOWEST COST TO OWN BY FAR, the EV wins hands down every time.

    • @andreaskvisler
      @andreaskvisler Před 2 lety +30

      @@Tron-Jockey But the price tho, you can get a dirt cheap gas car. The electric cars are so expensive. And what about the places where you cant install a charger at home, or the places where there are a low amount of electric chargers?

    • @apexspyder8994
      @apexspyder8994 Před 2 lety +1

      100%

    • @carlosca1501
      @carlosca1501 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Tron-Jockey stfu

    • @patricksegubiense
      @patricksegubiense Před 2 lety +7

      Sooooo satisfying to watch them going head-to-head on the map

  • @ChrisOReilly
    @ChrisOReilly Před 2 lety +552

    I would love to see this done again as a part 2 with them having the knowledge that the maps don't work well, especially since the issues on the first leg with the mache e really messed up the 2nd leg, would also love to see the extended range/dual motor models

    • @fishpole394
      @fishpole394 Před rokem +1

      tesla already has the most range in the plaid

    • @Axis.
      @Axis. Před rokem +7

      @@fishpole394 long range model s has the longest range at 405 miles, plaid isn’t the longest range

    • @fishpole394
      @fishpole394 Před rokem +4

      @@Axis. oh really? I didn't know that. You learn something new everyday I guess

    • @unusuario5173
      @unusuario5173 Před rokem +1

      I feel like to this point knowing that only Electrify America chargers are decent, there's no difference between a Tesla and a another EV that uses EA chargers.
      We seldom go out road tripping. We're usually city dwellers, and this video showed the important hack for non-Tesla EVs to take into account.
      It's good to have options.

    • @user-rm7kb3il6x
      @user-rm7kb3il6x Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@unusuario5173 thats not accurate. look up charger reliability, EA is not even close to as reliable as tesla superchargers

  • @kamranrasul4018
    @kamranrasul4018 Před 2 lety +126

    Very interesting and educating. I was contemplating electric vs gas for my next car but then there are hybrid and diesel options -- it would be cool to add those to the mix.

    • @laneblount9888
      @laneblount9888 Před rokem +13

      That would be interesting. I daily drive a diesel truck and you’d be surprised at the amount of stations that don’t have diesel in some areas. Sometimes I have to settle for a truck stop where it’s a lot more expensive

    • @jonathanjohansson7061
      @jonathanjohansson7061 Před rokem +7

      @@laneblount9888 I own an Hybrid Volvo XC40, and it would 100% have the same outcome as the Audi. Since when the battery is dead, it just uses the normal engine. The downside possible is that the hybrid might have needed to stop for gas one additional time since the tank normally is not as big, but otherwise it would not be different.

    • @barrettdecutler8979
      @barrettdecutler8979 Před rokem +4

      I agree. I would love to see something like this with conventional and plug-in hybrids and maybe some other types of EVs, such as a tiny econobox and a larger SUV or truck.

  • @TechSpaceCowboy
    @TechSpaceCowboy Před 2 lety +1558

    SERIOUS serious props to whomever did your graphics for this one.
    Outstanding.

    • @gr8dvd
      @gr8dvd Před 2 lety +6

      💯 and for those of us with either a casual interest or limited attention, a 3m video synopsis of just those graphics (and explanatory dialogue) would be great! Perhaps add a graphic (bar+line chart) of refuel cost & time, with apt comment about EV charged while eating, while checking into hotel, etc. (if/where applicable).

    • @iam_vlo
      @iam_vlo Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed! So good.

    • @ilya__t
      @ilya__t Před 2 lety +15

      Noticed that too. Soo smooth. And the sync between the route progress and the charge reserve... Oh my.

    • @Akuma3000GT
      @Akuma3000GT Před 2 lety +1

      100% agreed. Fantastic work all around guys! This is definitely work to be proud of!

    • @vanhakaveri
      @vanhakaveri Před 2 lety +1

      @@ilya__t Thats a basic 2d keyframe animation...

  • @ImackStudios
    @ImackStudios Před 2 lety +7527

    I love how Marques is so versatile with his content, this video is a banger 🔥

    • @imakeeditsiwillbeatevil9346
      @imakeeditsiwillbeatevil9346 Před 2 lety +4

      Ikr he doesn’t stick with one type of vid he changes every now and then

    • @abdullahhash1r
      @abdullahhash1r Před 2 lety +1

      Nice observation

    • @suiblade.
      @suiblade. Před 2 lety

      It’s interesting but he also has to be careful not to veer of too much because when people subscribe to the channel they expect a certain type of genre

    • @singular9
      @singular9 Před 2 lety +2

      Everyone missed how unscientific this comparison is. Gas guzzler SUV, base model mach e, and top end tesla. Of course the top end tesla does better than the base tesla, more motors = better. He should have used average people cars and trims.

    • @devangthapa2354
      @devangthapa2354 Před 2 lety

      This was the same thing I was thinking about!! This video do be a banger too

  • @liamobyrne6527
    @liamobyrne6527 Před 2 lety +309

    I’d love to see a similar comparison out West where the charging infrastructure isn’t as built up and the terrain is more challenging. Maybe Spokane to Yellowstone National Park or Denver to Salt Lake City. I know plenty of people that only road-trip for vacations and a lot of these could be in the west where there are more natural vacation destinations. Idk if y’all would have the time and budget to do this, but it’d be fun to see!

    • @GeoffJohnson
      @GeoffJohnson Před 2 lety +9

      Upstate NY is very mountainous.

    • @Mandatoryuser
      @Mandatoryuser Před 2 lety +1

      The Adirondacks are about as built up as Americas national parks.

    • @pauliusvindzigelskis2224
      @pauliusvindzigelskis2224 Před 2 lety +3

      i did road trip with SR+ Tesla 3 2 years ago. Dallas -> Denver -> Yellowstone -> Salt Lake City -> Dallas. Only 1 stretch of leg was difficult, had to slow down to 55mph . with LR even that won't be a problem. This happened in late Fall, so it was snowing in Yellowstone

    • @nomercy4521
      @nomercy4521 Před 2 lety +7

      Can't even do the comparison in the South. Tesla is literally the only charging network available.

    • @iseewood
      @iseewood Před rokem +5

      Search CZcams for a roadtrip challenge between Tesla, Porsche, Kia and Ford between Denver and Las Vegas. The non-Tesla’s used Electrify America only and did run into some non-working chargers, but there was typically at least one that worked. Porsche came first, followed by the Tesla 3, Kia EV6, Tesla X and then Ford Mach-E. There was a difference of 1.5 hours between the fastest and slowest for the 750 mile road trip. Very good video. I have a Mach-E and will put more planning in before I take a long road trip and not trust just the Ford app.

  • @Oldmansland1
    @Oldmansland1 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video Marques. This is really informative.

  • @soal159
    @soal159 Před 2 lety +428

    the charging stations outside Tesla's supercharging network needs some serious quality control. It's like they don't even care about it working.

    • @AhmedAkram903
      @AhmedAkram903 Před 2 lety +35

      Tesla cars need quality control

    • @CSDoge1080
      @CSDoge1080 Před 2 lety +29

      @@AhmedAkram903 not true. their quality control is fine. just cause you see people complaining doesnt mean it happens all the time. Every one of my friends that owns one never had any issues. I owned a Merc previously, and it had tons of problems for a car that cost $30k more

    • @AhmedAkram903
      @AhmedAkram903 Před 2 lety +25

      @@CSDoge1080 Teslas literally have huge panel gaps and miscolored panels

    • @CSDoge1080
      @CSDoge1080 Před 2 lety +8

      @@AhmedAkram903 I, along with all of my friends have never had those issues. Again, your argument is anecdotal because it rarely happens.

    • @Akinto710
      @Akinto710 Před 2 lety +7

      @@AhmedAkram903 That's mostly American quality control, and also they've gotten better over time. The Chinese built models are pretty decent.

  • @RichRebuilds
    @RichRebuilds Před 2 lety +1195

    Great video! Good one to show to people that are always questioning road tripping Gas VS EV.

    • @user-RCST
      @user-RCST Před 2 lety +9

      Yeah this will be a nice little video to bookmark and send to people who say EV can't do road trips. I mean I prefer Tesla but the Mach E performed extraordinarily well IMO.

    • @capslock9031
      @capslock9031 Před 2 lety +12

      @@user-RCST If you leave out the misinformation the car displayed about the chargers, this is true. ;-)

    • @go2guy
      @go2guy Před 2 lety +12

      Hey it's the more popular Tesla reviewer

    • @user-RCST
      @user-RCST Před 2 lety +7

      @@capslock9031 you can't get everything right on your first EV I'm sure Ford is working hard to try and solve these problems.

    • @j.p.3726
      @j.p.3726 Před 2 lety +29

      Waiting for the uncle rich x mkbhd cross over

  • @hoofhearted4
    @hoofhearted4 Před rokem +4

    this was interesting and he hit the nail on the head in the beginning. guessed the order, but not the time (honestly didnt really guess a time, but that was better than id have expected) would be curious if there would be a greater difference between a car with better fuel mileage and add in a hybrid.

  • @SamGuertin..
    @SamGuertin.. Před 8 měsíci

    This is such a classic top gear idea! Love this so much!!

  • @DanielRamos-dg2qe
    @DanielRamos-dg2qe Před 2 lety +489

    "Under promise, over deliver" is my life motto.

  • @screengreen1231
    @screengreen1231 Před 2 lety +173

    "I wanna know what your next car purchase will be"
    Me- * Looks at wallet *
    A 1997 Nissan

  • @HeroesReforged
    @HeroesReforged Před 2 lety +8

    This was really cool to watch AFTER seeing the actual road trip videos back-to-back. My next car is going to be a Subaru Crosstrek, but I have a feeling what comes next will more than likely be and EV.

  • @yuvraj317
    @yuvraj317 Před 2 lety +1

    I love to Watch. Them moving like a comparison vlog Rather than Getting Explained everything

  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained Před 2 lety +1393

    Thank you for doing this! It's so difficult to recommend a non-Tesla EV when none of the non-Tesla EVs don't take the user experience of charging seriously. Really hope EA & all the manufacturers up their game if they're looking for anyone to buy these cars (especially in the US, where occasional long trips are fairly normal).

    • @mohammadyaqoob746
      @mohammadyaqoob746 Před 2 lety +8

      Are EV's becoming more of a gadget or do they also have the same soul as the ICE vehicles ?

    • @SupremeRuleroftheWorld
      @SupremeRuleroftheWorld Před 2 lety +53

      @@mohammadyaqoob746 from personal experience a lot of drivers dont care about the soul when they get utterly trashed at the lights by a EV. after seeing their dragstrip-ready hellcat or demon get absolutly de-stroyed by a glorified golf cart that mom uses to bring the kids to school and a costco run and operates at a fraction of the fuel cost you see plenty of drivers getting the idea that the future is measured in amps, not decibels. i already had a guy in a seriously modded corvette wanting to flat out buy my raven after a 10 minute ride along as i could beat him at the lights without even trying and with 3 kids in the back.

    • @mohammadyaqoob746
      @mohammadyaqoob746 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SupremeRuleroftheWorld Well rationally EV is the smarter choice for daily tasks and accelerations might be good but they sure ain't good for the battery and acceleration is where it stops not the overall speed.
      Well I'm talking about most drivers, I'm talking about the select few who wrench hours on their shitboxs , drive late nights to get a clean stretch on the roads and to those who get their thrill only behind the wheel.
      I'm asking can the EV appeal to them to make the shift ?

    • @SupremeRuleroftheWorld
      @SupremeRuleroftheWorld Před 2 lety +21

      @@mohammadyaqoob746 my previous ev had 400k miles on it before i got rear ended. It was driven hard battery wise and it still was in good nick. These old arguments simply are not true anymore. Lets see how good a car with 400k on it still preforms. Mine had 0 power loss, just 10% less range. If you drive a lot you quixkly get fed up from that engine noise once you have driven a ev that does not have that. Its just a better experince in dialy life.

    • @ReclusiveEagle
      @ReclusiveEagle Před 2 lety +13

      Nvm the fact that Tesla literally said "You can use our charging networks no problem, we'd like to standardize them and open them for use to other manufacturers". But most decided to go with Electrify America or a pump standard that can barley maintain 50wh

  • @yairgreen2633
    @yairgreen2633 Před 2 lety +350

    The animation at the beginning showing the map and the cars in colors is INSANE
    SO DAMM BEAUTIFUL
    Edit: thanks marques!

    • @qasidkashif7175
      @qasidkashif7175 Před 2 lety +14

      you just got rid of the heart by editing your comment

    • @yairgreen2633
      @yairgreen2633 Před 2 lety +13

      @@qasidkashif7175 just noticed... Didn't know that's how it goes :(

    • @hisfatness522
      @hisfatness522 Před 2 lety +19

      @@yairgreen2633 never knew about that feature. that's a really good thing too, because if it wasn't a thing, a lot of people can edit it to say something vulgar and make the channel owner look bad because he hearted it.

    • @yairgreen2633
      @yairgreen2633 Před 2 lety +8

      @@hisfatness522 Right... Still sucks I lost the ❤️

  • @expomm
    @expomm Před rokem

    This is exactly the question I asked myself, thanks for addressing this! It would be great if you do this again but in winter!

  • @Vatha9
    @Vatha9 Před rokem +7

    I'm starting to appreciate the moments I have while charging. I get to explore a bit more with the given charge estimation period. After all, I am on a road trip and sight seeing is part of it

  • @EwbankFilms
    @EwbankFilms Před 2 lety +128

    These map visuals are next level 🔥

  • @calebmeyer616
    @calebmeyer616 Před 2 lety +326

    It would be really cool to do this annually and compare the progression of each type of ev!

    • @Joe3D
      @Joe3D Před 2 lety +3

      He should add a 4th car diesel like the V6 Audi from Scott Kilmer NGcSiuOoE1o

    • @calebmeyer616
      @calebmeyer616 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Joe3D I mean Diesel engines would probably blow all of them out of the water as far as range goes, but do you think Diesel engine tech improves enough every year to do that annually?

    • @Joe3D
      @Joe3D Před 2 lety +1

      @@calebmeyer616 gasoline won't improve either, electrification is not an improvement, plus little less consumption is not compensated by much higher prices and repair costs.

    • @calebmeyer616
      @calebmeyer616 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Joe3D well electrification brings about better torque, improved acceleration, and generalized improvements to driving experience, but I was just referring to the range and such.

    • @Joe3D
      @Joe3D Před 2 lety

      @@calebmeyer616 you have to count everything. Plus they didn't account for initial car cost and insurances, maintenances, etc.

  • @dogflirt
    @dogflirt Před 2 lety

    THIS. THIS is the most helpful video I've seen since 2020!!!

  • @thecomplimentking
    @thecomplimentking Před rokem

    Good work. Very informative. Thank you.

  • @zollotech
    @zollotech Před 2 lety +670

    Great comparison. Hopefully one day the chargers and standards are the same so it makes this much easier.

    • @sabitalrazi9936
      @sabitalrazi9936 Před 2 lety +9

      you look like a professional CZcamsr. can you give me 501 dollar?

    • @jonashageboke8993
      @jonashageboke8993 Před 2 lety +18

      In Europe it's all CCS at this point (Teslas can use other chargers, but not reverse, due to billing process). North America is all CCS (but a different one than in Europe...it's complicated) except Tesla. CHAdeMO is pretty much dead except Japan I think, and China has their own connector.
      But honestly, considering how young the industry still is, it's already very well standardized. The only thing that's "missing" is for Tesla to switch to CCS in North America, which will hopefully happen sooner than later. Would be sensible to do this at the same time as they're opening up the Supercharger network to other carmakers, which will definitely happen. The plug isn't as elegant, but commonality is more important imo.

    • @robkremers4993
      @robkremers4993 Před 2 lety +4

      @@jonashageboke8993 Tesla will be opening its supercharger network to all OEMs.

    • @robkremers4993
      @robkremers4993 Před 2 lety +21

      @@pr5owner lol, the Plaid wasn’t going 170 mph. They had agreed upon max speeds, etc. Use your brain next time before making stupid comments.

    • @Brandon_Watson
      @Brandon_Watson Před 2 lety +4

      This will be the next big hurdle for EVs. Imagine going to fill us with gas and all of the chevy nozzles are broken.

  • @axeldaval3410
    @axeldaval3410 Před 2 lety +207

    Some perspective for European viewers in terms of prices:
    1 Liter of gasoline in western Europe is around 1.5€, while it is 0.8€ in the USA. That means it is over 50% more expensive to use gas in Europe than the USA. So total gas cost for the road trip would equate to 109€ for the whole roadtrip.

    • @BrianGlaze
      @BrianGlaze Před 2 lety +12

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @Mr.DISRESPECT
      @Mr.DISRESPECT Před 2 lety +16

      That's why people in Europe prefer EV than Gas Cars....

    • @PietsmietFan12
      @PietsmietFan12 Před 2 lety +52

      @@Mr.DISRESPECT Well, in Germany the electricity price is 3 times as high as in the US

    • @stavrostehking
      @stavrostehking Před 2 lety +24

      Yet, in Greece electricity is 1/3rd. So the gas price would be 180$ and the charging cost 20$

    • @zerodifs2566
      @zerodifs2566 Před 2 lety +1

      @@PietsmietFan12 yup and I don’t understand why

  • @user-zy4sq1zl5g
    @user-zy4sq1zl5g Před rokem

    Thank you man for your great service and video
    Driving 400-500 miles for 20 min video

  • @URBANENGINEER
    @URBANENGINEER Před 2 lety +3

    We did a similar trip in 2021 summer. The gaps between Syracuse and Buffalo heading east made it almost impossible to travel by EV. Eastbound had (July) half the EV charger DC availability on the turnpike that the westbound route did. I see why you avoided it!! Also - if you don't put in the supercharger as your destination, it will not pre-condition the battery and use up necessary range. Put it nearby!

  • @pablogalvz
    @pablogalvz Před 2 lety +182

    I've done several Tesla road trips and I always try to stay at hotels with destination chargers so you wake up with 100% charge and save even more time. I love electric road trips!

    • @Alex-qx7jn
      @Alex-qx7jn Před 2 lety +2

      Are you able to reserve the charger plug just for you?

    • @myles2494
      @myles2494 Před 2 lety +8

      That's what they did on the grand tour and they were miserable because they hated the place they had to stay in and the things that were nearby. I know its a TV series but its a valid trade off.

    • @gonzac36
      @gonzac36 Před 2 lety

      @@Alex-qx7jn I wasn’t able to but there were always spots open

    • @gonzac36
      @gonzac36 Před 2 lety +9

      @@myles2494 I love those guys but they will shit on EVs any chance they get, lol. There are plenty of decent hotels with chargers. Even the nice ones with valet have free charging, just ask the valet to changer it for you and give him a tip. You can see when they plug it in and set all of the charging stats from your phone. Airbnb can filter by charging and the places are nice.

    • @harsimranbansal5355
      @harsimranbansal5355 Před 2 lety

      @@myles2494 Thats cuz the rimac doesn’t have good range and there weren’t many chargers back when they filmed it. Today there are 10x the amount of chargers than at the time!

  • @iam_vlo
    @iam_vlo Před 2 lety +334

    I feel so bad for those in the Mustang - I’d be pulling my hair out with full road rage after hitting so many obstacles.

    • @official_pol2198
      @official_pol2198 Před 2 lety +2

      Simple, don't buy the fake ripoff and just buy a tesla.

    • @hiddenmissingo4776
      @hiddenmissingo4776 Před 2 lety +33

      @@official_pol2198
      fake rip off: no.
      Inferior: yes.

    • @MauricioBarragan
      @MauricioBarragan Před 2 lety +20

      Lmfaoooo I thought they had turned around and gone back.

    • @niyi8991
      @niyi8991 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MauricioBarragan lmao bruh !

    • @iam_vlo
      @iam_vlo Před 2 lety +1

      @@MauricioBarragan haha that's definitely what I would've done!

  • @jimmywinskowski5059
    @jimmywinskowski5059 Před 2 lety

    This video is HUGE for me. Been looking at the Mach-e and F150 Lightning, but road trips are a must for me. This is a great breakdown of what it looks like irl.

    • @shaunakkulkarni4679
      @shaunakkulkarni4679 Před 19 dny

      Until every gas station has EV chargers I’m not buying them. Tbh it should be a no brainer, sell electricity and encourage more people to buy stuff in the gas station.

  • @texano1957
    @texano1957 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thanks for making such a comprehensive and informative video, it helped me a lot and also confirmed one of my biggest fears about owning an EV. Lack of chargers and what charger there are are apparently often not working and as you mentioned, you could arrive at a charger and find it out of order and be stuck.

  • @Sean_Jackson
    @Sean_Jackson Před 2 lety +91

    Hell yeah. I actually did my college capstone project on charging infrastructure in the Adirondacks and mapping out optimal locations for future infrastructure. It's fun watching it play out IRL.

  • @sacalgaming42
    @sacalgaming42 Před 2 lety +211

    I like how you actually got there with 1 mile left like you had nothing to lose if you didn’t make it :))

    • @dietermg6339
      @dietermg6339 Před 2 lety +5

      Exactly what I was thinking. I never go much below 5 to 10%.... same as with a gasoline car you don't go to the last drop (unlike Kramer in the Seinfeld episode where he goes on a test drive with a car salesman...)

    • @harryshort1690
      @harryshort1690 Před 2 lety +9

      Realistically Tesla's have a buffer below 0 larger than any other manufacturer (26 miles on model 3 tested by Edmunds), not that it's recommended

    • @marnzm
      @marnzm Před 2 lety

      What's 1 mile to kilometers?

    • @pintaridergaming
      @pintaridergaming Před 2 lety

      @@marnzm 1.6 km

    • @wavey61
      @wavey61 Před 2 lety +2

      @@dietermg6339 The difference in a Tesla is that the closer you get to your destination, the more accurate its estimation is. So by the time Marques decided to pass by a Supercharger, he knew he was going to make it. That kind of accuracy can't be done on gas cars.

  • @ponticelli
    @ponticelli Před 2 lety +10

    Loved this test!! I have ordered a Tesla MYLR which will be my first EV. Actually I’m not surprised by the result: if you go electric, unfortunately you can only rely on Tesla if you want to have a “worry free” transition because of the supercharger and its network, as you showed in the video

    • @maxflight777
      @maxflight777 Před 2 lety +2

      Francesco … I’ve had my MY a week ! Love it .
      The seats aren’t great if you are tall and sentry mode flattens your battery fast ! But overall … it’s a bloody great car and better than the BMW X5 it replaced

    • @donquixoteupinhere
      @donquixoteupinhere Před 2 lety

      @@maxflight777 My my my!

  • @RVMiles
    @RVMiles Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think things get a little different when you aren't trying to get there as fast as possible. If you do half-hour breaks for food, and if you plan out the hotels to use ones that have chargers, things get a lot closer.

  • @Riokaii
    @Riokaii Před 2 lety +423

    Something to note: If allowed to refuel/ recharge to 100% overnight, the gap would be even closer between the gas and the tesla.

    • @ThedigitalArtChannel
      @ThedigitalArtChannel Před 2 lety +15

      Yea but it takes 25 to 30mins to charge for gas 10 mins for full tank..I stay with gas

    • @Smile.911
      @Smile.911 Před 2 lety +13

      What's stopping you from refueling your car the night before or the morning of in like 5mins. It really would not have made as much of a difference as people are saying. +-10% delta

    • @SmokeyVlogs
      @SmokeyVlogs Před 2 lety +6

      100 % everytime kills battery fast

    • @SmokeyVlogs
      @SmokeyVlogs Před 2 lety +5

      we should avoid charging lithium ion batteries over 80% for longevity

    • @richardlinares6314
      @richardlinares6314 Před 2 lety +3

      True, but I think he wanted a scenario where there wasn’t special planning for a charger at the hotel.

  • @SpawnPoiint
    @SpawnPoiint Před 2 lety +762

    On every road trip I do, my car is finished charging before I've finished eating/resting/toilet break etc.
    As long as the charging network is there, it's really not hard. Nearly 2 years in my Tesla now, and won't go back to petrol/gas.
    Edit - I have two young children, there’s no way I’m driving for more than 3/4 hours without a stop anyway.

    • @sylfix2680
      @sylfix2680 Před 2 lety +23

      I saw lakes of Tesla's when traveling on northern Ontario. The issue is your limited to not going anywhere off the 17 because of the distance between the Chargers..m

    • @ishraqzamee9479
      @ishraqzamee9479 Před 2 lety +4

      love your videos man, your road trips inspired us to get a jaguar I-pace to try that electric life but dad wanted to be a bit different than the popular teslas. 😂😂

    • @LauS0
      @LauS0 Před 2 lety +29

      Except you need to stop more often even if you don't need stop to eat/toilet break

    • @TreyJustice
      @TreyJustice Před 2 lety +5

      I do not like to stop LOL

    • @WhiteWi
      @WhiteWi Před 2 lety +18

      Us too since we got 3 kids we have to stop every 2 hours anyway and it takes at least 20 min for bathroom break and leg stretching. Ice free household 2 Teslas home.

  • @petemcl99
    @petemcl99 Před 2 lety

    Good job. Well done. Very informative. 😊

  • @jeremyherr40
    @jeremyherr40 Před 2 lety +1

    Love this video. I actually saw you in Cheektowaga!

  • @evroadtripsireland9870
    @evroadtripsireland9870 Před 2 lety +84

    Loved the trip visualisation! Super cool! One thing I always try to do is charge up at my destination, that's is one of the USPs of having an EV - charge anywhere! Pretty sure if you had charged up overnight every time you stopped, the gap between the Audi and the EVs would have been even smaller.

  • @AndreiJikh
    @AndreiJikh Před 2 lety +883

    Wow I didn't expect Tesla charge costs to be relatively close to gas costs 😅

    • @niyazmazin5102
      @niyazmazin5102 Před 2 lety +183

      same. for a while i thought the main selling point of EV's were that you wouldnt have to pay for gas. but theyre almost exactly the same price to refuel or recharge

    • @conradsadventures4626
      @conradsadventures4626 Před 2 lety +307

      @@niyazmazin5102 I think charging at home would be a lot cheaper, but road trips with superchargers would be more expensive.

    • @hailgod1
      @hailgod1 Před 2 lety +216

      its america, where petrol is cheap as fuck.

    • @ItsWolfsRain
      @ItsWolfsRain Před 2 lety +76

      In the Netherlands, the difference is about 2-3:1 because of gas prices (and supercharging is .25 eurocents per kwh here).

    • @harryshort1690
      @harryshort1690 Před 2 lety +138

      On roadtrips the savings get lost a little, he said he avg 33cents/kw supercharging. At home I can charge for 9cents/kw during off peak hours

  • @TR_2023
    @TR_2023 Před rokem

    Great useful test. Thanks team!

  • @CentigradeMind
    @CentigradeMind Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for this!

  • @TVCHLORD
    @TVCHLORD Před 2 lety +903

    having multiple charging standards is insane and slows down the adoption of EV's

    • @Modelo646
      @Modelo646 Před 2 lety +24

      Well EV'e problem is not only charging the batteries for them are made out of material that is quickly running out and to produce that amount of electricity you need to burn a lot more fosil fuel.

    • @nicholaswilkerson501
      @nicholaswilkerson501 Před 2 lety +10

      this is what happens when car companies are a quarter interested/invested in EV's. They just seem to all be trying to come out with and EV with out a way to properly charge them.

    • @nicholasteslich6376
      @nicholasteslich6376 Před 2 lety +79

      Europe Union have a law that states all electric cars must have the same charging port design, so you can charge at any station in any European country, as opposed to usa where there are company specific charging stations (BMW or Audi etc)

    • @laden6675
      @laden6675 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Modelo646 Who asked?

    • @Modelo646
      @Modelo646 Před 2 lety +25

      @@laden6675 I could ask you the same thing

  • @Maxime7101
    @Maxime7101 Před 2 lety +456

    Next time you go to Scranton, I recommend you to eat at Alfredo’s Pizza Cafe. This is really worth it! Don’t go to Pizza by Alfredo, it’s a totally different place!

    • @samidnasir
      @samidnasir Před 2 lety +14

      that's what Kevin said

    • @joshx413
      @joshx413 Před 2 lety +1

      Mr Ballin

    • @ZakvielStreams
      @ZakvielStreams Před 2 lety +1

      bots promoting cafe?

    • @tinta4352
      @tinta4352 Před 2 lety +10

      @@ZakvielStreams you didn’t get the joke whoooops

    • @w2lee007
      @w2lee007 Před 2 lety +2

      I read it with kevin's voice

  • @dominicingegneri635
    @dominicingegneri635 Před 2 lety +1

    An informative video, as always. How about using your vast skills to create a narrative abut the future if gas vehicles keep emissions on an upward slope? I live near an airport and busy highway and all I can envision is the constant plume of carbon filling the atmosphere. OPEC pumps out the fuels, we pump the exhausts into the air -The ballon keeps filling up…

  • @shrichaudhary
    @shrichaudhary Před 2 lety +1

    Just saw this video. Great idea and very interesting results. TO keep things more even, I would like like to see a Model Y Long Range instead of Model S Plaid in the comparison. My next car will be a Model Y Long Range. I dont take too many long trips, especially during these times, but my expereicne with the Tesla Supercharger network has been very good with my 2019 Model 3 Dual Motor

  • @dan203
    @dan203 Před 2 lety +194

    I recently did a 750 mile trip (each way) in a Performance Model 3. On the way there I did like you and just trusted the nav. On the way back I stopped at basically every supercharger, which was every 150-200 miles, along the way. I found that stopping more frequently for shorter periods of time was actually better. Being able to stretch every couple of hours was nice and each stop only took about 10-15 minutes. The whole trip only took about and hour longer than the Google maps estimate.

    • @AB-ts2xd
      @AB-ts2xd Před 2 lety +4

      That’s fine if you don’t need to go 10 minutes out of the way for the supercharger,

    • @realMysta
      @realMysta Před 2 lety +6

      That's probably my charging complaint about Tesla. In my Teslas was the same as you, but in Taycan I can drive 240 miles at 85 mph and then charge back to 80% in 20 mins then drive 240 miles again etc. A higher average charging rate is better and I wish tesla would let you choose between quick half charge and high average charge for longer stops.

    • @youngdumak
      @youngdumak Před 2 lety +1

      I think this is how most people road trip their EVs. It’s a bold strategy going below 30% Tesla or not.

    • @HarrisonAdAstra
      @HarrisonAdAstra Před 2 lety +1

      @@AB-ts2xd you seem to not understand what he ment.

    • @HarrisonAdAstra
      @HarrisonAdAstra Před 2 lety +6

      @@realMysta huh? Tesla’s charge faster than a tycan to 80%, just look it up.

  • @AJLaSaracina
    @AJLaSaracina Před 2 lety +168

    As someone who has driven his Mustang Mach-E across the country, the first thing I did was disable non DC-fast charging on the onboard navigation app and had no issues with the 1.5k mile drive.

    • @mkbhd
      @mkbhd  Před 2 lety +162

      We actually did the same, and their second trickle charger was mis-labeled as a fast charger

    • @imakeeditsiwillbeatevil9346
      @imakeeditsiwillbeatevil9346 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mkbhd you clever boii

    • @ckelley87
      @ckelley87 Před 2 lety +7

      @@mkbhd Maybe I haven't hit that part of the video, but guessing for Tesla and Mach E you only used the built-in navigation for routing to chargers? This is why I use Plugshare and ABRP, but that doesn't dismiss the mislabeled and non-functioning chargers. This part needs to catch up and quickly, not just for Ford, but all EVs.
      Edit: just hit where on the 2nd leg they used their own apps, this is why I should wait until the video is done. 🙃

    • @AJLaSaracina
      @AJLaSaracina Před 2 lety +1

      @@mkbhd Well that sucks. I'm glad Electrify America was a good solution when headed back though, as I found them as well as Francis (only in the midwest) to be the fastest and most reliable when I did my drive.

    • @rebeccahjohnson9339
      @rebeccahjohnson9339 Před 2 lety

      You drove your Mach-E across the country OMG are you serious.

  • @Nikhil-xh5uv
    @Nikhil-xh5uv Před rokem +26

    You should do a 1 year later comparison for this one soon! Would be interesting to see what has changed in a year.

  • @SweatyHanes
    @SweatyHanes Před 2 lety

    it sucks i missed this, just knowing you drove through my area has got me geeking.

  • @mackan072
    @mackan072 Před 2 lety +199

    I'd *much* rather have a car underestimate how far it can go, than overestimating.

    • @hsiang4236
      @hsiang4236 Před 2 lety +1

      but..but marketing...

    • @The_Remster
      @The_Remster Před 2 lety +1

      @@hsiang4236 but customer experience and satisfaction

    • @hsiang4236
      @hsiang4236 Před 2 lety +1

      @@The_Remster Normally yes, but this is a car and most people won't sell their car just because the fuel economy was overestimated

    • @ReclusiveEagle
      @ReclusiveEagle Před 2 lety +2

      Does it matter than the distance between Tesla stations is like on average 50 miles, all of them work and all maintain 150kwh minimum?

    • @mackan072
      @mackan072 Před 2 lety +1

      If I'm 55 miles away, and the car display a 70 mile range left, then yes it does. It might make someone skip the last charging station that they could possibly reach.

  • @jaymo9919
    @jaymo9919 Před 2 lety +180

    Bjorn Nyland (Norway) does 1000km challenges regularly when comparing EVs.
    This will be an interesting video to watch.

    • @Psi-Storm
      @Psi-Storm Před 2 lety +8

      Bjorn knows the charging infrastructures on his routes, it is more of a best case scenario, where only charging speed and consumption decides the time. On unknown routes functional and well placed chargers are much more important then 10% higher consumption.

    • @danielstefanovic2604
      @danielstefanovic2604 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Psi-Storm also the non tesla charging infrastructure is way better in norway then us but you can encounter ques tho since theres so many non tesla ev`s in Norway.

    • @SeriouslyJaded
      @SeriouslyJaded Před 2 lety +1

      @@danielstefanovic2604 Norway here and can confirm this. The US seems to be so far behind in EV infrastructure.

    • @nicolasschneider1284
      @nicolasschneider1284 Před 2 lety +1

      Norway is just very fast. Germany is pretty bad as well. Wish it was more like in Norway.

    • @noah2765
      @noah2765 Před 2 lety +1

      Bjørn Nyland is so funny

  • @EndofDays213
    @EndofDays213 Před 2 lety

    This was fun maybe next time if you do this again do challenges along the way. I’m not quite sure what you can add idk but reminded me of top gear and I loved those.

  • @TheCrust
    @TheCrust Před 2 lety +1214

    In a perfect world, I'd love for my next car to be electric. They're just not at a price point yet that I could reasonably afford.

    • @fahadhussain3007
      @fahadhussain3007 Před 2 lety +16

      Tara tigor ev , Indian giant Tata makes electric cars now , they also own land rover and jaguar....

    • @RamboSuperStar1
      @RamboSuperStar1 Před 2 lety +33

      Gas car is cheaper for now

    • @richardlinares6314
      @richardlinares6314 Před 2 lety +1

      If you don’t need much room, look at aptera.

    • @roodick85
      @roodick85 Před 2 lety +20

      Get a used EV they're dirt cheap, the amount I was paying to fuel up is the same I pay for my car

    • @nabhan1999
      @nabhan1999 Před 2 lety +22

      Main problem where I'm from is the charging for sure. If you live in the capital then you're good. Anywhere else you're pretty much screwed

  • @1BlueSkyy
    @1BlueSkyy Před 2 lety +324

    “GAS VS ELECTRIC”
    JerryRigEverything: presses the accelerator of his electric Hummer.

  • @drmarctagon
    @drmarctagon Před 2 lety

    This was a really dope experiment. I'd actually wondered about this. I'm not sure I'm ready to go all electric yet.

  • @Magmachu
    @Magmachu Před 8 měsíci

    Would love to see a 2 year update

  • @smeggysmeg
    @smeggysmeg Před 2 lety +47

    Charging at a fast charger over 90% is crazy in terms of time efficiency, due to the charging curve. A Better Route Planner is a must have!

    • @tabottietjen3186
      @tabottietjen3186 Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, A Better Route Planner would advise you to charge more often with smaller charge amounts. When I drive to San Diego which is 500 miles or so, I charge twice. I could make it in 1 charge but that charge would take longer than the 2 charges. I would guess that Marques could have cut off 15-20 minutes by stopping twice on the 1st day

  • @paulflood6503
    @paulflood6503 Před 2 lety +275

    Need to do this again with JerryRigEverything's Humvee when it's done

    • @HoloScope
      @HoloScope Před 2 lety +1

      Oh no

    • @feisaljauharitufail
      @feisaljauharitufail Před 2 lety +1

      🤣 Imagine Humvee with extra batteries.

    • @Y0gurt123
      @Y0gurt123 Před 2 lety +1

      He might need another few days LMAO

    • @etsonix
      @etsonix Před 2 lety +1

      Lol that be a scoop for audiences and goverment will shocked

  • @danielalfred7103
    @danielalfred7103 Před 2 lety +2

    nice comparison, please next time add a hybrid car also, i think it will beat the others on cost of the trip and time because less stops for refueling.

  • @Iftier755
    @Iftier755 Před 2 lety

    you should do more TechTrip videos 😍🖤

  • @LDreTheGiant
    @LDreTheGiant Před 2 lety +778

    I’ve had my model Y for like 5 months now and I still haven’t been to a super charger

    • @m77mmdd19
      @m77mmdd19 Před 2 lety +8

      Where do you live?

    • @immortalist1010
      @immortalist1010 Před 2 lety +20

      @@m77mmdd19 😳

    • @ok-us6hv
      @ok-us6hv Před 2 lety +9

      ok

    • @pbjeffy27
      @pbjeffy27 Před 2 lety +6

      Lmao

    • @curiousurick
      @curiousurick Před 2 lety +46

      I’ve taken my Mach E on 3 road trips and only had to use the EA charger twice. It’s amazing that we can charge up at home. I’m just on trickle charge at home and Ive never been worried about range. I love EVs!

  • @CHEFPKR
    @CHEFPKR Před 2 lety +1740

    Next Purchase will be EV. Full charging at home + Solar on the roof + Induction stove tops = efficient.

    • @Iangamebr
      @Iangamebr Před 2 lety +75

      Good plan chef

    • @hybrid.roodragon1226
      @hybrid.roodragon1226 Před 2 lety +96

      Hell yeah just dont go broke........ A lot of this stuff all at once would be really expensive just keep that in mind and space out your payments and such and plan ahead alright. Leave yourself a safety buffer etc like THEY SHOULD BE TEACHING MORE IN SCHOOL

    • @kode351
      @kode351 Před 2 lety +1

      New video idea ???

    • @subhampradhan4442
      @subhampradhan4442 Před 2 lety +11

      Initial cost will be very high

    • @JorgeMendoza-415
      @JorgeMendoza-415 Před 2 lety +14

      you forgot the tesla power wall and converting your heating system to full electric! (slight sarcasm)

  • @ilustrafilms
    @ilustrafilms Před rokem

    This guy delivers again. GG

  • @JimHassey
    @JimHassey Před rokem +1

    Hmmm... thought there'd be a bigger difference in the cost of the trip. I'm contemplating buying the Y, but this video makes me think. Thank you for the content.

  • @daniel10yn
    @daniel10yn Před 2 lety +148

    Would love to see a winter version of this video!

    • @qman66
      @qman66 Před 2 lety +7

      Gas car would have definitely distanced itself more in the lead for sure

    • @kirkydaturkey
      @kirkydaturkey Před 2 lety

      100% this! Please make it happen team 🙏

    • @marcel151
      @marcel151 Před 2 lety +1

      It's clear what would happen, you don't need that...

    • @anthonybielobockie4991
      @anthonybielobockie4991 Před 2 lety +1

      I'd love to see a realistic version of this where they drive @ 80mph like normal people actually do on a road trip.

    • @marcel151
      @marcel151 Před 2 lety +5

      @@anthonybielobockie4991 Normal people are driving in kmh not mph. ;-)

  • @soccerjonesy
    @soccerjonesy Před 2 lety +321

    Should've thrown in a hybrid as well. The hybrid 7 series or 5 series can do upwards of nearly 1000 miles on a single fuel up. A dude posted a video of taking his 7 series over 900 miles on a single tank which is insane. Certain there are other hybrids out there that can do the same, if not better. Would be entertaining to see how those would fair in this competition.

    • @destituteanddecadent9106
      @destituteanddecadent9106 Před 2 lety +9

      Maybe the fastest but probably not by much considering people still need food, even if their cars don't.

    • @user-gj6lj2gc6h
      @user-gj6lj2gc6h Před 2 lety

      You see, I'm an Arab, I know English, so don't worry

    • @robsengahay5614
      @robsengahay5614 Před 2 lety +3

      @@destituteanddecadent9106 Yes, and bathroom breaks. And with an EV you can visit the bathroom and buy/eat your food while the car is charging but you are required to stand at the fuel bowser.

    • @usmantariq7997
      @usmantariq7997 Před 2 lety +13

      @@robsengahay5614 Fueling only takes like a couple of minutes that's why there's no need for you to leave your car. While electrics need considerably more amount of time so you cannot just wait there so you HAVE to go eat or shop something.
      I'm not against electrics but don't takeaway a few benefits that gasoline cars have.

    • @robsengahay5614
      @robsengahay5614 Před 2 lety +5

      @@usmantariq7997 Seriously though it isn’t a benefit. Since driving an EV I have learned to appreciate taking a 20-30 minute stop every 3-4 hours. Properly stretch my legs and take a break.
      I have realised how dangerously I used to drive and now wince when I hear comments about driving 10 hours with one 5-10 minute stop to refuel a gas car as it brings back memories.

  • @anthonyformichella5418

    Nice work, great video. I'm waiting on a Tesla Cybertruck and everything I'm tracking tells me by 2024 the experience will be better than a gas guzzler in general and maybe even on par for long trips. Starting every day 100% will be enough for me almost every day of the year.

  • @Stoppy-
    @Stoppy- Před 7 měsíci

    The continuous pop sound effect at the start made me confused for Shift + Sound key on mac

  • @C_M_R
    @C_M_R Před 2 lety +34

    Had a 7900+ mile road trip in my Tesla in August. Been a Tesla owner since 2015, and it's much easier to take road trips now compared to when I first got my car with the expansion of the supercharger Network.

    • @Brandon_letsgo
      @Brandon_letsgo Před 2 lety

      Still gas cars are way more convenient. I never spend more than 5 minutes at the pump. I don't have to plan the trip. I just drive the car.

  • @bear89103
    @bear89103 Před 2 lety +124

    I appreciate everything about this video. Thank you. It definitely was as fair as possible, it was informative and had a great warm presentation. And it provided pertinent real world information.

  • @maxflight777
    @maxflight777 Před 2 lety

    Young Marquess! I love your videos.
    For an American 😂… you are very concise !
    I’m laughing… but you are very talented.

  • @marcelofernandez2747
    @marcelofernandez2747 Před 2 lety

    This looked like a high-tech Top Gear, which I love!

  • @davidtich
    @davidtich Před 2 lety +133

    One thing to keep in mind is that, even though road trips are slightly longer in an EV, it doesn’t compare to all of the time saved by never having to go to the gas station during everyday life. I’ll take an extra few minutes at a rest stop on an occasional road trip over weekly trips to the pump every time.

    • @aryadhole
      @aryadhole Před 2 lety +10

      Ohhh that a very good point . But you need to fill up like once a month so not a huge benefit.

    • @Justin73791
      @Justin73791 Před 2 lety +32

      This only applies to people with EV charging at home. If you live in an apartment or something this argument actually gets flipped upside down and favors ICE by a large margin.
      Though if the stars align for you it's a nice feature to have.

    • @alexanderpinney
      @alexanderpinney Před 2 lety +16

      @@aryadhole uh... I fill up easily once a week. I get about 400 miles per tank and drive about 70 miles on work days.
      If you're only filling up once a month you're barely using your car.

    • @chessmyantidrug
      @chessmyantidrug Před 2 lety +10

      Instead of spending time at a gas station every 3 or 4 weeks, I would be spending time every time I drive plugging in my car. I fail to see the time saving here.

    • @ChR0nos_7734
      @ChR0nos_7734 Před 2 lety +3

      @@alexanderpinney also not everybody does this kinda of milage every day. Also not everybody live in USA.

  • @TheSeolyeon
    @TheSeolyeon Před 2 lety +22

    The visualization of how the route and the different cars blew my mind, soooo niceeely done and editing . Huge props for that one.

  • @CamaroMan514
    @CamaroMan514 Před 2 lety

    I just drove a long range model 3 back from Vegas to la through Death Valley. It got to a point where I cut my AC and rerouted from Baker to Yermo. First time I ever experienced range anxiety.

  • @nehemiahjandroep4568
    @nehemiahjandroep4568 Před 2 lety

    Very interesting Documentary.. Thank you Sir.

  • @Archetapp
    @Archetapp Před 2 lety +61

    As someone who just bought a car (Mazda3 2019) the only factor I would need to buy an electric car is for the pricing to come down just a bit more. Like, the $15,000-30,000 range. I’d also need my own place so I can charge it while at home… at my apartment, we don’t have that luxury.

    • @Bowman001
      @Bowman001 Před 2 lety +6

      Tesla is working on a 25k hatchback. It’s said to come out in 2022-23 ish but it’s first gonna come to china and then the us and europe etc

    • @alphaomega9650
      @alphaomega9650 Před 2 lety

      Look into Aptera they have more range for less and can charge up to 40 miles in solar over a sunny day

  • @BeingAgeless
    @BeingAgeless Před 2 lety +55

    LOVED the animations on the map! That made it so much easier to follow the progress. Well done! AND, EVs only for me in the future.

  • @wjlambert
    @wjlambert Před 2 lety +78

    From having owned 4 EVs over the last 12 years (basically since modern production EVs have existed). I would say that my next 5 cars will be electric. But It's been a hell of a uphill battle to get even to where we are now and, imo we are still in the early years.
    There are two MAJOR factors that MUST change for wide-spread adoption (not just enthusiasts and the wealthy)
    (1) EV Charging must be as ubiquitous as Gasoline stations; people need to be able to find (functional) stations, even in remote, rural locations
    (2) EV Charging must be at least as fast as 150 kW; people need to be able to fill up in a reasonable time, less than 30 mins for at least 80% charge.
    Although batteries are still quite costly, I think that BMW had a good idea by including a battery that as at least 20% larger than necessary, allowing for the middle 80% to be the primary fill space, and that all charging could be DC Fast Charge.
    Great video. Thanks for doing this comparative research

    • @charleskavoukjian3441
      @charleskavoukjian3441 Před 2 lety +4

      The problem is the amount of power needed to charge these cars. If you had one station only for charging no gas but same layout. 10-20 charging stations. If ten cars showed up to charge all at once. Or if a few got there early. The first cars to plug in would get charged normally, once the rest plug in the amount of power output to the chargers would decrease and or fluctuate between cars. So not all would get and equal chwrge. The load could not manage equal power output to all. So some maybe full charge in 45-1:30 or whatever. The last person would be there for hours. Plus all EV chargers use energy created by fossil fuel which makes me laugh. But biggest problem will be energy storage. Plus fast charging and all this raising the amps and all that into the cars battery will degrade it much faster than a steady flow charge for an hour or whatever. I was just at a IEEE green tech conference. The other problem is we literally can’t make the energy/power needed to charge every vehicle in America if they all became electric tomorrow. Tbh I feel the same people now yelling at oil companies and fossil fuels will be yelled at in 40 years due to batteries and their contents not decomposing and filling pits with hazardous waste. Lotta battery acid will go into the ocean and soil. That 30 minutes is a good goal but long term is very harmful to the battery packs. Or the 200 miles in 15 minutes for elons new packs is good but long term it will shorten the life of the battery.

    • @sikolikhole
      @sikolikhole Před 2 lety +2

      May I ask, why you have gone through so many Ev's in such a short period of time?

    • @wjlambert
      @wjlambert Před 2 lety +1

      @@sikolikhole heh 😅 there's a story for everything. But because I don't want to write another novel in the comments, let's just say that life circumstances dont always allow me to keep stuff. 🤷‍♂️

    • @ryderostby
      @ryderostby Před 2 lety

      Gas prices rn might help

    • @wjlambert
      @wjlambert Před 9 měsíci

      @@youssef24231 ideally a refill should be 3-7 minutes (to match petrol), my comment probably could have been, 'at most 30 mins'

  • @u.coloradowatershed9701
    @u.coloradowatershed9701 Před 8 měsíci

    I live in Colorado and do big road trips in the west - many to Montana and Idaho. We typically do our 1,000 mile road trips in one day. I drive a Subaru with around 35/mpg and at least 450 mile range. We often stop once, maybe twice for gas and fast food. Best time is slightly under 15 hours. As soon as an EV that handles as well in the snow can do that, for not too much more money, then I'm there.

  • @azannazar7626
    @azannazar7626 Před 2 lety +111

    Seeing Marques channeling top gear energy restores my faith in humanity, Love your content man, always keep it up.

    • @eliwhitehead-zimmers7296
      @eliwhitehead-zimmers7296 Před 2 lety

      YEEESSSSS more top gear vids from mkbhd

    • @reanetsemoleleki8219
      @reanetsemoleleki8219 Před 2 lety +4

      Top Gear energy? Seriously? You sound like you've never watched TG but are vaguely aware that the show features road trips.

    • @destituteanddecadent9106
      @destituteanddecadent9106 Před 2 lety +2

      @@reanetsemoleleki8219 yeah, energy is very different. Just the road trip with three somewhat completing cars aspect.

    • @sinuslebastian6366
      @sinuslebastian6366 Před 2 lety +1

      Well he actually partnered with Top Gear recently so there's that.

  • @ReggieRichardson
    @ReggieRichardson Před 2 lety +52

    This is such an important video. I hope that all of the EV manufacturers study this to improve the experience.

    • @cJames404
      @cJames404 Před 2 lety +1

      Surprised a company as far reaching and capable as Ford doesn't better execute to make sure their first EV customers have an experience worth recommending to friends.
      Surely some inexpensive, off the shelf IoT devices could report if stations are down.
      Heck, pay the minimum wage employees at local Ford dealers to drop in on the stations several times a day to update their status.
      It wouldn't cost much to provide more accurate data to Ford drivers and it would make for a much better experience.

  • @kevinanonymous6469
    @kevinanonymous6469 Před 2 lety

    This was interesting. I like your channel Marques.

  • @92mahl
    @92mahl Před 2 lety +2

    I really wish you had a hybrid in this video and also compared the total cost of the trip!

  • @prathameshjadhav7250
    @prathameshjadhav7250 Před 2 lety +25

    This was really interesting. Can you please repeat such a road trip on a cold/snow day during winter when the time comes? That would provide even greater insight.

    • @gerrymcfaul
      @gerrymcfaul Před 2 lety +2

      And charging the EV's at the motel to full battery.

  • @megazillia
    @megazillia Před 2 lety +593

    Kinda wish they added a hybrid vehicle to the mix just to show that perspective as well.

    • @sktwister14
      @sktwister14 Před 2 lety +52

      Hybrid is just gas with extra steps

    • @megazillia
      @megazillia Před 2 lety +29

      @@sktwister14 and usually greater range as well no?

    • @s3renity690
      @s3renity690 Před 2 lety +3

      @@megazillia not to a gas engine no

    • @banban60000
      @banban60000 Před 2 lety +4

      @@sktwister14 um what?

    • @limbeboy7
      @limbeboy7 Před 2 lety +24

      Yes, I have a hybrid that has a 560 mile range and it would've done this trip in a out half the time. It takes gas as no EV charge

  • @agnesnsor3911
    @agnesnsor3911 Před rokem +1

    I love this analysis. So spot on. I am currently doing a research at school about EV cars for a car brand and I was wandering what was the outcome of the poll on "what will be your next car purchase?" If you don't mind sharing, my team and I would like to use your findings for our research project. If this sounds like something you will like to discuss in detail, let me know what is your best mode of communication and I will reach out to you. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks!

  • @sergiosarmiento4233
    @sergiosarmiento4233 Před 2 lety

    Beautifully informative. Now I know what’s right for me, no second guessing

    • @sergiosarmiento4233
      @sergiosarmiento4233 Před 2 lety

      @Whatsapp Me➕➀➁⓪➁➆⓪➂➈➇➀➈
      Thanks but I don’t trust CZcams commenters who could be potential scammers

  • @madsaachristensen
    @madsaachristensen Před 2 lety +334

    Would have been interesting to have charged the EVs at the hotel while staying overnight since that is a distinct advantage over the ICE cars. You could fill the car before stopping for the day, but that time should then be recorded for the total time spent on the road trip. The EVs would charge without wasting time since they would charge while sleeping. I suppose the difference would only be 10-20 minutes, but still something to consider when doing long road trips with overnight stops.

    • @khubba10
      @khubba10 Před 2 lety +24

      That was done to break up the monotony of the drive. 1000 miles in 1 day and 1 continuous trip is well within the bounds of single day trips some people take. But for production he split theirs up. But in the theoretical real world single day 1000 miles the overnight charging is not an advantage offered.

    • @luca7069
      @luca7069 Před 2 lety +16

      Just no? Cherry picking hotel that offered charging would have made for a much more unrealistic test

    • @brunobarreiros8256
      @brunobarreiros8256 Před 2 lety +9

      Exactly. He took all the disadvantages electric cars have but none of the advantages. Still, good video.

    • @DainLaguna
      @DainLaguna Před 2 lety +2

      10 min at a max. Filling up at a gas station does not take a long time, contrary to what people who haven’t filled up a gas tank in a hot min would tell you lmao.

    • @sooperman12
      @sooperman12 Před 2 lety +11

      I think people are missing the point of the test. To see if an EV could do what people "normally" consider a "normal" road trip because it's about range anxiety. OF COURSE, if you own an EV, you're going to consider the charging but you're already bought into the whole EV concept. He's trying to convince ICE owners.

  • @finsky123
    @finsky123 Před 2 lety +23

    Really well done, Marques & Team. A thorough presentation of the facts, inclusions of asterisks when necessary, and don't even get me started on the amazing graphics! Crushed it.

  • @pascalplagalemanski1496
    @pascalplagalemanski1496 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, very well done vidéo, clear, informative, without pre-judgment. Hope to watch the next occurrence of this test.
    (I did order a mustang mach e rwd extended battery à couple of weeks ago)i
    One thing regarding the way you planned the charging. I would say that on a normal roadtrip, time is Split in mandater stops. If it Last more than a Day than, you select Nice hotel to add fun to this journey, and you need to stop for lunch, and here this is more like asking in the car when familly People want to eat. To me the ev roadtripper game is to match those mandatory stops with the charging session so that the charging time is more seemless. At least this is how i’m,planning to do. So select only hôtels where you have a descent charging capabilities so that overnight battery is full and ready to go.
    But your charging network comment is really true.... tesla is much more reliable... But situation is evolving quickly.
    Let’s hope for the best

  • @purplejaek
    @purplejaek Před 2 lety

    Excited to see a video like this when Aptera comes out with their SEV 2 seater with 1000 mile range

  • @GamezGuru1
    @GamezGuru1 Před 2 lety +151

    imagine if Ford accounted for all the broken chargers - they would then have the world's smallest charging network

    • @GamezGuru1
      @GamezGuru1 Před 2 lety +1

      but this is why the Tesla charging network is so good - they have a huge incentive to keep it functioning perfectly. OEMs who rely on third party charging stations are doomed from the getgo, because they cannot pressure the supplier to fix broken chargers. I hate to think how much (tax) money is wasted building new chargers, instead of just fixing the ones already there...

  • @cr0wmatic
    @cr0wmatic Před 2 lety +692

    This is exactly why we need a standardized charge port and charging system, to avoid this nightmare.
    I will be getting a Rivian as my next vehicle. But I worry about the charging experience as you just outlined. I find myself torn between tesla because it's fleshed out and other evs for their looks and what I'd prefer in a vehicle. I hate that I feel forced to choose tesla in order to get a good experience. More to the point I hate having to pick a car based on their charging network. I would never buy a gas car based on the gas station I can use!

    • @Christiaan676
      @Christiaan676 Před 2 lety +35

      The common charge port is ccs. Works fine in Europe. Upside for Tesla owners is that they can also use other charge networks.
      Most important result about this test is that the quality of the charge network is important. And a bunch of broken chargers is not helping.

    • @JohnDoe-ef5gl
      @JohnDoe-ef5gl Před 2 lety

      @@Christiaan676 LVHkiluxz. L

    • @theplaidconservative5539
      @theplaidconservative5539 Před 2 lety +18

      Gas stations are going to become like Phone booths.

    • @stephena5752
      @stephena5752 Před 2 lety +5

      Rivian needs to figure out how to manufacture a vehicle first there buddy.

    • @cr0wmatic
      @cr0wmatic Před 2 lety +9

      @@stephena5752 You do realize that they are already doing that right?

  • @rumor2629
    @rumor2629 Před 2 lety +7

    This video really put things into perspective for someone looking to get an EV. Personally I will be looking into Hybrid vehicles a lot more after this video.

    • @ZayPaperChasing
      @ZayPaperChasing Před rokem

      Take into account the maintenance of a hybrid and the availability to self service that vehicle

  • @Asifalirahman1
    @Asifalirahman1 Před 2 lety +4

    Marques, I have always been a frequent viewer of your channel and many other channels. I must say that in my opinion with time your videos have become THE most informative videos on CZcams. About my next purchase? I just purchased a gas engine car. I think EV technology is still under development and I am not ready to make the transition yet.

  • @Alex-hv3ir
    @Alex-hv3ir Před 2 lety +471

    I want to see this with used cars in the future, to determine how well batteries last compared to gas tanks lol

    • @mistymu8154
      @mistymu8154 Před 2 lety +31

      Me too. EVs are still expensive. I would be a bit worried buying a second hand EV as replacing the battery would be expensive. We all know with phones and laptops that battery health gets worse over time.

    • @pb_canadian5675
      @pb_canadian5675 Před 2 lety +1

      m thinkng the same way lol

    • @segawalker3302
      @segawalker3302 Před 2 lety +23

      5 years w a model S75, same miles 243. 3.5 years w a Model 3 single motor long range, gained 10 mile via software updates. 315 miles to 325 miles range. I think you're good w the 2nd gen battery and up. I only fast charged on road trips, my "gas station" is at home. No need to go to an off site filling station, like a gas station while not on vacation mode w a home charger.

    • @fewik8567
      @fewik8567 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mistymu8154 that can vary greatly, some mobile devices have had great battery health after multiple years of fast charging, it just depends on the actual process of making the battery, there was reports about Tesla switching from its 75kwh to 90kwh and see faster decline in health, but I'd hope to see the use of software to preserve health, such as Google's pixel phones using the alarm app as a charging timer, so when the device is plugged in at night it will charge perfectly to 100% by say 8:00am at a constant speed and much slower speed, this could increase the life of a battery greatly

    • @segawalker3302
      @segawalker3302 Před 2 lety +3

      @@mistymu8154 it's a different lithium chemistry than cell phone. Listen to the second element when the mention the complete name of the battery type and it will tell you it's attributes.