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When Twitter Ruins Your Life: The Glee Prom Spoiler Saga
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2022
- In early 2011, a Glee extra (Nicole) took to Twitter and tweeted a cryptic code that spoiled the upcoming prom episode of Glee, revealing who was the Season 2 Prom King and Queen. The show, with its massive fandom and onslaught of Gleeks began to send hateful messages towards Nicole for leaking the highly anticipated plot point. Following a major Gleek fan backlash and some tweets from a Glee creator and producer, Nicole deleted her Twitter and the series of events that followed led to her career being ruined. Soon after Nicole began to speak out, attempting to correct some information that news sites got wrong about her and the spoiler...
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no but seriously, who in the right mind does not sign an NDA with extras😭😭😭 most of the time, extras are people who are interested in the show they are shooting in, obviously they will leak something eventually
I’ve been an extra on some movies and did not sign an NDA, I wasn’t allowed to bring my phone during the scenes that’s all.
I think glee had that bad management problem, seeing it was such a success. NDAs should’ve been signed, but they probably assumed no one who wants a career would spoil (I think) 🤷🏽♀️
Not only that but why are the fans the ones asking for spoilers and then become major hypocrites and start cancelling the person who they literally ask for spoilers… for spoiling something. Like get a grip u know what this account is for, if u don’t want spoilers then don’t ask/follow
glee was unhinged but as a former gleek (i was in 9th grade in 2009) that once claimed on a facebook status that this leak had "destroyed me" and made me "lose faith in humanity" i will say living through this whole era feels like a fever dream when i look back on it
sis i live for the drama. hope ur faith in humanity was restored xo
It’s fine to feel upset/disappointed, just don’t ruin someone’s life over a spoiler.
@@mari_zzlet's have a drama at ur expense 🤪🤪
@@americansoul5563 ? sis u thought u ate when u can't understand drama being used in the sense of "being dramatic" like saying they lost their faith in humanity and were destroyed because of a leak. it's honestly embarrassing...
why is it always the shows like that (supposedly very pro inclusivity/very anti bullying) that have the absolute WORST fandoms???
Because their fans tend to be self righteous about their taste
Because there's this insulating effect where the people watching and relating to those shows feel like they're underdogs and outcasts. In their minds they are fighting against bullies and couldn't possibly be bullies themselves.
because these people think watching shows about anti-bullying excuses their own awful behaviour and personality, they are just bullies in denial
it happens with every fandom, media with an anti bullying focus is likely being pushed towards kids and teens. In this case, Glee's demographic is mainly tween girls. The reason Glee seems like it has a bad fandom is really just sexism at the end of the day, it's no better or worse then any other piece of media, people just enjoy harassing teen girls lol.
The cycle is something like fanbase erupts -> a woman does something stupid -> men attack her for a relatively normal mistake -> unrelated people see it because of how quickly everything snowballed -> unrelated men comment on how stupid she is -> blows up more -> cycle continues. Most fandom stories you hear are about women for a reason.
Rick and Morty, Homestuck, Stranger Things, Marvel, etc, they aren't any different.
lgbt people
While I think people who leak things are responsible if they get fired (as they are likely breaking an nda) I think it was pretty innapropriate for the creator to make this a public matter!
She’s the one who made it a public matter by publicly revealing a spoiler. He was right to be mad and to publicly call her out (as he probably didn’t even know who she was or how to contact her privately). Now, what was highly inappropriate is the cyber-bullying and death threats some gleeks sent het.
@@blablex7222 she said she couldn't have known if the person who'd told her the spoiler was telling the truth. if the creator didn't know who she was surely he would've just assumed she's just another gleek. if he knew she was a background actress for glee he should've done a little bit more research than acting irrationally and ruining some girls career.
@@blablex7222 it’s still intensely unprofessional imo. She shouldn’t have leaked spoilers (tho the No NDA has me scratching my head), but the creator had a lot of power and misused it. You can’t tell me he didn’t know she’d be attacked. She wouldn’t have been sent so much hate if he hadn’t put so much attention on the situation
This is the genius team who stole a song cover off Johnathan Coulton (of Portal fame) for their show and didn't even change the changed lyrics back. They don't know what being professional is.
@@Zulf85 haha thank you exactly. Ryan and Brad aren't exactly the picture of professionalism. What gets me is Brad has the energy to sic the Gleeks on Nicole but I heard crickets when the Mark Salling arrest happened 👀
Obviously different levels of concern but why is her "crime" worth being vocal about...oh because it directly affected them.
While spoilers are bad, it's not something so horrendous that people have to say *Jump Off A Cliff* and other horrible things to the person who spoilt it.
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@@thefrostedforest yes. I read one time it's called spoilers paradox
I think spoilers are expected on a page like hers where she’s already talked spoilers in the past, but if it’s a actual plot line spoiler that has anticipation surrounding it you’d be better off making a fake profile and even just lying saying the fake profile verified to you in DM that they were authentic (which is obviously a cover up for the fact it’s you); I feel bad for her honestly. Especially considering there were no NDA’s to breach
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I don't even watch glee and never heard of this event happening but I just find his videos super entertaining. Is it just me?
Me too!
He has a relaxing voice
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You’re definitely not alone! He explains the fandoms well, they’re meant for everyone
I’m the same, never watched an episode of Glee but I find his videos so interesting.
Okay but Brad made a stupid fucking deal about this. "Who are you to spoil something it took months to create" she tweeted a single sentence about one small aspect of ONE episode, and having watched Glee I'm surprised anything took them months to do.
Honestly, I agree with his statement. A lot of work goes into a tv show and there’s a lot of employee it affects. This was a big episode back when it aired so it spoiled a big reveal and ruined their work. However, I think he should have spoken to her off line so that the backlash wasn’t public and if this affected her career in the industry, well she should have thought of that beforehand.
He has a right tho because it is his team’s and Brad’s work. So I understand the frustration of creators spoiling the plot by someone who is just a gossip site. It takes much effort to polish and create a story. However, he could just actually deal this matter privately and talk to her professionally instead of blabbing in the internet making her threatened by these fans.
The co-writer handled this situation very, very poorly and should honestly probably be ashamed of himself. The very least he could have done was say something denouncing the people using the hashtag that was started BECAUSE OF HIM to send this girl death threats.
She was young, she made a dumb mistake. He's older, and probably should have taken NDAs and what not a lot more seriously before this happened if he was THAT pressed about something being spoiled.
glee's writing isn't even that good if we being honest lol
@@BritneyBeachSpears it really isnt😂 if u pay attention u notice how poorly written glee is
@BritneyBeachSpears yeah it's not even i could write better than that. It is lowkey a shit show but I was still obsessed 🤧
It's odd that when a background actor posts a spoiler she's fired and gets death threats, yet when a main actor like Tom Holland spoils Marvel stuff the fans find it cute and make compilations (and I say this as a TH fangirl myself). Fans hold ridiculous double standards when it comes to what main actors are allowed to get away with compared to extras.
theres a theory that those type of spoilers are planned for publicity
Honestly, that behavior is misogyny. Women will do the same exact things as men yet get treated horribly, while the men are praised by their fans.
@@saintgein no way you found a way to insert gender into this? If Angelina Jolie spoiled a movie she's in she'll be fine, because she's already popular and loved by many people. It's that simple.
@@AsmaHt I think Ryan Murphy was wack.
Great job comparing apples to oranges and saying hey look there’s a difference here
It’s almost like a main character has more status, value and relationship to the fans of a series
It’s almost like that fact would clearly sway a fan to who they get upset at, it’s almost like a background actors doesn’t have any worth to them and a main character has all the worth
Also It’s most like Marvel spoilers are orchestrated marketing stunts set out to drive interest not hate where this is a leak of IP and storyline of a major point so ofcourse it’s go get backlash
I think it's kind of fair that casting agents don't want her when she revealed spoilers from a previous job (regardless of whether it's in her contract or not) but it's NOT fair at ALL to harm her in any way such as threats and tell her to kyh etc.
i can’t believe i forgot about this
i was a huge gleek & very involved in the fandom during this. people would beg nicole for information, and she was highly praised by most people. some of the fandom would get upset by the spoilers, but most people were excited by it. spoilers were a huge thing - the plot of almost every single episode was leaked before it aired. IIRC there were quite a few people who worked on the show that were known to post weekly spoilers
after brad’s tweet though, everyone switched up. spoilers were suddenly wrong and immoral, and anyone who posted them was considered bad. the former (highly respected) leakers were now getting mass amounts of hate
nicole didn’t deserve the hate she got - she was just a glee fan like the rest of us at the time who happened to have insider information. she only ever shared it because fans BEGGED her to.
i hope she’s doing well now. fuck RIB.
What's RIB?
@@ginandromeda1618 ryan ian & brad
@decolonial do you remember all the spoilers that used to come from that Glee Brazil account? That was wild too.
the "that's what you missed on Glee" bit was SO good.... literally made me teleport back to 2011
Wow was that fucked up of Brad. He knew wtf he was doing. He could've just talked to her privately. Disgusting and unprofessional behavior.
What she did was unprofessional! Are you still delusional??
Calm down, Kam.
Honestly, sending death threats over one stupid spoiler being revealed is like next level absud to me. I don't care how big the reveal was supposed to be, it's literally a show about singing teenagers who sent each other to crackhouses and get into physicals fights on the daily - not worth ending someone's career over and throwing them into a depression something to minuscule. And the legal team didn't add NDA's for the extra's? That's on you at that point.
As a former Gleek, the second you talked about the plot, everything came flooding back to me. I vaguely remember this happening but TBH, even though it's not necessarily right, even the Glee Wiki used leaks like Nicole and places like GleekOutBR as TBC plot line info in the lead up to new episodes. This shit continued long after the Nicole incident, and I remember the songs would always be leaked (song being sung and singer) before their release on First Listen Friday. Not condoning it at all, just adding what I remember. The Glee fandom really was a warzone, and I hate that this info is etched on my brain lmao.
I don't mind leaked songs to be honest....
You know, I understand the writer being upset about the spoiler, but him going so far as to say that Nicole didn't deserve to work in entertainment felt very unprofessional if you ask me. That's clearly over the line.
what company is going to want to hire her when she'll probably spoil all their hard work? She clearly was never passionate about entertainment if she went off and did something like that
Yyyyeah no, hard agree on this. It was very much over the line. Also I'm sure him calling her out just brought more exposure to the spoiler tweet and spoiled it for even MORE people. I just... this could have been handled privately, but instead, he made it public and kind of caused the dogpiling to become much worse. I think at the very least he should have denounced the people blasting her on twitter with the # BradIsOurKing thing. :x
Writer is 1000% in the right
@@elzbieta78 expect she didn’t know it was a spoiler
@@elzbieta78 she didnt work there
Yall remember the poor kid who posted that he had no friends, and everyone was giving him love, then someone dug up a family photo he was in, then everyone turned on him? Twitter is INSANE!!
“If you haven’t heard of Glee, unlucky, But if you have, also unlucky”
A spoiler for your creation isn't a huge deal. It's one thing if someone is going out and doing what those jackasses did at the final harry potter book releases and screaming spoilers to people who don't want to hear them. It's another if you are knowingly browsing a website/following an account that is filled with possible spoilers.
That creator had an ego made of glass and is super pathetic imo.
Also fans seem to be okay with spoilers as long as a main actor does it rather than an extra. Tom Holland spoiling Marvel films has become a meme and the fans love him for it. Something tells me if Nicole played a main character she wouldn't have been blacklisted or given death threats.
i mean he's one of the creators of Glee, what did you expect? lol
Thank you for covering this important part of terminally online history
Just another instance of the Streisand effect, I see.
Had Fulchuk left it in the DMs, fans would've still considered Nicole's tweet to be "Schrödinger's spoiler". Plus, she had significantly less followers than him.
This random background actress got more consequences for her actions than Kyle Rittenhouse, George Zimmerman, and Brock Turner got combined.
@@sit-insforsithis1568 babe be fr
George Zimmerman was hounded and lost his freaking mind over it.
@@SD-zz4ov "be fr" he was escaping from a mob trying to beat him up because they incorrectly presumed he tried to shoot a gun. How would you like to receive a beating from an unthinking mob for a misdeed you didn't commit?
Also all the people shot where child or partner abusers.
as someone who loves spoilers im dumb founded by how extra people are about them! that poor girl didn’t deserve to be dogpiled and the grown man in the situation should of reached out to her privately and not add fuel to the fire
i saw glee in the title and KNEW this was going to be good
This was really interesting... I work in post production, we work on hollywood movies so get to see everything in advance. I have had massive leaks at companies I have worked at twice coouchspidermantrailercough, it is awful. Internal audits, terse messages, massive meetings, means privileges get taken away from all of us. It is selfish, and really unprofessional and she shouldn't have worked as an extra again (though she didn't seem to want to anyway) and she must have known she was playing with fire. That said, she in no way deserved death threats or the backlash she got and Brad should have kept that offline instead of confirming the spoiler and berating a 21 year old publicly, and Glee not having NDA's is beyond stupid, we have to sign a bunch of NDA's and it formalizes what we can and can't say, not having that blurs the line between what can and can't be said.
The thing was she wasnt even an extra on any relevant episode, it was leaked to her in a personal capacity as a gossip blogger, she wasnt involved in the episode at all. Its the difference between if I revealed corporate secrets vs repeating stuff someone else leaked, not professional, but not exactly unprofessional either. This just sounds like the creator being an ass, no? He himself leaked the info by openly confirming it, he could have chosen to not comment or deny or spread counter rumours... when she said it it was just rumours.
Essentially someone who worked with them in the past but was no longer involved, had no contract swearing them to secrecy even when they were involved, and was now just a gossip blogger got told something and posted it so the creator went out to get her kicked out the entire industry. This just sounds unjustified, it would be like if you posted something a friend told you about the next totallynotspiderman that you had no involvement in leading to you losing your job. Even without the public dragging its an issue imo
Finally an opinion I can agree with in the comments, I think both sides did wrong, even if Nicole wasn't working with them anymore she still leaked the important beat of an upcoming episode and spoilers do ruin the hype for many fans and creators alike but it shouldn't be a reason to bully or threat someone. Also, that's so neat, you didn't*wink wink* work in Spider-Man, please don't spoil the whole plot of the fourth movie for me and don't tell me what Tom, Tobey and Andrew are like because I know you didn't work with them... 👀
i like to think about this as the first ever heavily publicized twitter controversy, a timeline shattering multiversal event as an a equivalent of Big Bang for twitter cancer culture
Sadly ironic that the fandom of a show with a clear anti-bullying stance became the biggest bullies of all.
I've never even watched this "Glee" show before, but Joe makes everything so interesting to listen to!
yk I'm a simple woman I see glee I click🤷♀️🤷♀️
btw love your video's make me laugh everytime🤭🤭
Me too
It really makes me side eye Falchuck for making this such a big deal. A spoiler isn’t worth going for someone’s entire career. Glee was important to a lot of people but that’s way way too far.
all of those producers are weirdos honestly
brad (and of course a man like him is named brad) could have just ignored the spoiler, but her decided to, from his massive platform, aid in confirming it and also go after someone with a much smaller platform. he then also used his power, and the power of the company he worked for, to ruin her life. like boo-hoo you got spoiled for something because you're chronically online and actively following pages that post spoilers, like who's actually to blame here?
also another source on a separate website confirmed the spoiler, like why are ya'll not as mad at that person? until that tumblr user and brad came into the equation nicole's post was just as much a shot in the dark as anyone else's guess.
i just personally do not see spoilers as a big deal, especially considering modern movie trailers and how companies now use actor's "spoiling" things as a marketing tactic.
if nicole was unprofessional then so was everyone else involved in the saga, especially brad, brad should've known better, there is absolutely no excuse for his behavior, people shouldn't even try to make any.
NOT THE PARENTHESES ON “A MAN LIKE HIM IS NAMED BRAD”
I was an avid AVID gleek, and I remember how much drama this caused. But I didn’t think I knew about the specific spoiler because I was just happy to see Sam and Mercedes going to prom together lol
It was really unprofessional for her to do this under her real name when she could’ve done it anonymously 😬 She didn’t deserve the violent attacks, but that was stupid.
I was trying to explain this whole scenario to my boyfriend and botched the hell out of it. So, THANK YOU for this!!
your videos are like documentaries, like on ANOTHER LEVEL. thanks for the hard work you put into researching internet culture
The 1 2 3 4 editing was delicious lol
The editing on this one was 👩🏽🍳🤌🏼
"glee has an anti bullying message" have you watched a single episode?
I don't care about being spoiled or leaks, but you need to be really dense to leak stuff like that under your full name when you want to work in the entertainment industry.
She deserved none of the cyber bullying or the death threats, that was completely unwarranted, but her career being busted afterwards was just a natural consequence waiting to happen. What agency will employ you if they can't trust you to be professional? Yes she wasn't working on set at the time but she still used her ties in the industry to spoil a major part of the series.
Yet when a major actor like Tom Holland spoils stuff the execs don't bat an eye and fans love him for it? That doesn't seem fair, and I say that as a major TH fan.
@@Olivia-ek9ib Well yeah that is unfair, the difference is he already is a top actor. She didn't have any following. They couldn't fire Tom if they wanted to because they knew fans would riot.
@@bluepeppermint3790 yeah I agree that’s why I said it was unfair. Fans don’t like spoilers but are willing to give him a pass because they already like him.
@@Olivia-ek9ib Also another factor here is that she deliberately spoils while Tom (presumably) does this on accident. That doesn't mean it's okay still.
@@Olivia-ek9ib actually him spoiling was intentional maybe do a bit of research lol it's to get media attention
lord I remember this happening like it was yesterday, are you aware of gleekoutBR? the tumblr account that always seemed to know everything that was going to happen & was the first to upload music, and everyone was convinced the show was actually being controlled by a teenager in brazil
ok forgot to update this after I watched the video but ur truly a REAL one for bringing them up that's truly proof of proper research - i'd love an investigation into them bc WHO WERE THEY
As someone who was a MASSIVE Glee fan when the show was airing, I'm shocked that I never heard of this.
working as an extra and wanting to make it big but also running a gossip / spoilers blog is a bit ironic considering that spoilers are shows and movies' arch nemesis??? she was just proving that she can't be trusted with keeping secrets for upcoming projects
If you type "tom holland spoiling stuff" in the youtube search bar you will find thirteen minute long videos of him spoiling Marvel movies. Not only is he still employed, but Marvel is now using him as an excuse to shove as many actors into interviews as possible to "babysit" him. Something tells me if Nicole had played a main character she would have never been treated this way by fans OR been blacklisted from Hollywood.
@@Olivia-ek9ib I agree that it is unfair that Tom has no repercussions and her career was ruined over this, but I think it does make a difference that Tom already was an established actor and the Marvel movies use his "accidental spoilers" as marketing tool imo. I think she would still have been in trouble even as a main character tho, since the Glee fandom was crazy like that. Just look how quickly they turned on her, when she was such a known source for spoilers before this lol
@@Olivia-ek9ib the difference is Tom does it by accident and this woman was running a spoilers blog, so it was entirely intentional
your editing is SO GOOD
"if you've ever been on the internet...like ever" my favourite sentence ... like ever
Joe can you please do a video about Jiafei
Hi! Yeah I can! Jiafei is on my list, I just need to figure it all out first 😭
Honestly, a very underrated channel! your videos are all well made, so I hope your channel grows or goes big soon!
Honestly the creators could’ve juss refilmed the crowning with new people as a fuck you to her instead of making it this big deal lmao. Brad falchuck is wild.
I absolutely loved this video, so engaging. It felt much longer than 13 minutes and I mean that in the best way possible
1:10 SHUES BLURED FACE 🤣🤣
I watched Glee when it was still on and never heard of this. Love your videos!
Soooo she was just punished for having the correct speculation? Thats fucked up.
Spoilers by Nicole 💅
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Somebody spoiled the GoT ending,
by sending me a DM on Reddit.
I don’t even watch Game of Thrones.
Kinda crazy someone threatened her because she leaked something in a SHOW.
I never heard of this but Gleeks are wild LMAO I even remember this episode.
keep making stan twitter vids pls i want to know that whole dark truth of stan twitter history
Ironically this might be the first time a show trended worldwide
love your original background music Joe!
I just binge-watched almost all your videos and even though i don't know who most of these people are i really enjoyed them!
no no no no need to file me up on glee i watch mike’s mic tell me how twt is cruel and unserious as if i don’t spend there hours
She...She didn't know if it was true or not, and yet decided to share it like it was a legit spoiler? For a show she wasn't working on anymore? That's bloody weird, but I'm not surprised she'd do that if she got so much attention from spoilers before. The internet is vicious, and death threats and harassment are never permissible. At the same time, she set herself up for backlash doing that. News stations apparently lying about her being fired is also pathetic. This whole thing is weird..
Was there a time during Avengers Endgame when someone got physically beaten up near the cinema for spoiling the actual ending?
"The glee-extra" 🤣🤣🤣
Nicole dished the prom tea on my 17th birthday and we love her for that
Thank you Nicole
The fact that I vaguely remember this has aged me 50 years
Your channel is simply one of the best on this site, amazing!❤️
The voom In on the lips made me gag Lmao
I guess getting spoiled is irritating but death threats and trying to cut someone off from their relationships with people over it is too much
Nicole Crowther literally went down in Glee history for this. I remember it well, it was a HUGE deal at the time. 😂
Spoilers for Glee: They will sing
i’ve never watched glee but this was so interesting lmao
Brad went off and it's justified.
Fans asked she answered they got mad... Ummmm
If you don't wanna get spoiled why you reading spoilers then.....
It’s likely ppl who wanted spoilers spoiled it for ppl who didn’t want it, and they went and blamed Nicole for dropping the spoilers to begin with
Doubt that. They most likely saw a retweet or looked it up themselves.
1:45 I feel you on a personal level with those most streamed artist
i just love your voice/accent so much i’ll watch any video you post
Jesus Christ just seeing the hashtag alone just took me on a huge nostalgia trip. I remember people freaking the fuck out on the comments section of the Glee Wiki website.
A spoiler isn't a spoiler until someone confirms it's true
Glee fans need to learn it ain’t that deep
we toss around this word a lot but "hope you're qualified to do something besides work in entertainment" is. Iconic.
Watching all your videos. Absolute class content mate.
Please put a tw before showing mr schue next time
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Sooo a bunch of nerds threw a hissy fit about spoilers even though they were asking for that information from the get go? SMH
It wasn't _Twitter_ or _the internet_ that ruined your life. _You_ ruined your life, chasing the 👍s and the ♥s and the 😂s and the 💩s and the 🤭s.
A few lols a few tears, great content yet again meow
The delivery...the editing....the intrigue. The best.
Just watched the prom episode for the first time, so I’m looking forward to seeing this finally!
she really didn't know the fire she was playing with, huh. Like to not even use a fake username??? Definitely wouldn't wish a run-in with Gleeks on anyone
"That's why she was on a show called how the internet ruined my life"
Made me audibly laugh at my desk, you kill me 😂😂
one time i spoiled a major tv show on tumblr for fun as i'd never signed an NDA
i never know anything about the subjects of your vids but they r sooo amazing
i feel so bad for nicole :(
No one is spoiling Twin Peaks. Even if you were born as the series finale episode(1991) you would be 31. There is a statue of limitations on spoiling. If you haven’t watched the final episode within 10 years of airing ( Yes, even if you haven’t been born) then you cannot be upset by spoilersz h
It's still spoiling. It's just that it's unreasonable to be upset about spoilers after a certain point.
i think what she did was p stupid but it really shouldn't have been blown out of proportion and it reeks of misogyny
vividly remember when this happened 😭
Holy shit, if a creator did something like that now to a gossip blogger, they’d be destroyed
JOE IS BACK
13:24 this really got me for some reason lmao love this video so much fr