Always enjoy your reviews! Your sharpening skills are some of the best I have seen. I envy you! I can sharpen freehand, but it's not as smooth or artistic as you! Be cool of you did a tour of your library. It's epic!
Thanks, just practice and refining from watching YT lol. Yeah, I might do that sometime. Not many of our subs would be interested, but some of youse are.
I have had diamond stones for years to sharpen my chisels for work. These look like a big step up from mine. You make the art of sharpening look easy. I could never get a consistent edge so I ‘invested’ in a Wicked Edge sharpening system. I’m a little concerned about how long the diamond stones will last but the trade off for a consistent razor sharp edge is worth it for me.
@@KevinsDisobedience If they have it's been so little or so slow as to be imperceptible to me. Granted I don't have anything else to compare to. Are you sure that your perception of them dulling isn't just the dust building up on them? Maybe mine aren't as sharp as when they were new, but they're still so effective this many years later that I don't think whatever degradation they may have undergone is relevant.
Diamond stones will cut extremely aggressively initially but they break in quickly and then remain fairly consistent as long as you use very light pressure. If you let the stones do the work and use the lightest of pressure just enough to keep it on the angle they will maintain their post break in aggression indefinitely.
On aggressive stone, I push pretty hard to establish the grind. But I definitely like these. Been using them a lot. Just sharpened my moms kitchen knives for her the other day on them.
@@KevinsDisobedience I would recommend a big silicon carbide like a Norton crystlon coarse for that initial hard grind when you need to set a new bevel. Diamond stones just don't hold up great to hard pressure. I've hear people say it rips the diamonds from the stone, but I think it just rounds off the sharpest bits and turns a coarse into a medium. I have diamond plates that I have used often and roughly before I learned to ease up on the pressure, and they still cut, just way less quickly than they once did. Now when I reprofile softer steels I use a silicon carbide 11x3, and for harder steels I will use some high quality sandpaper made from ceramic material taped or glued to a flat or curved piece of wood. It's hard enough to cut the steel but also kinda disposable. I got tired of destroying my nice stones trying to grind a new bevel on some blade with terrible geometry yet made from ridiculously hard to grind steel.
I know I've said this once before, but I am terrible at sharpening knives. I just got a "build your own knife kit" as a gift and shuttered when I realized part of the "build" is to sharpen it yourself. It ain't going to be pretty.
If it’s too much a bother to learn freehand, get one of those cheap jigs with the arm that holds it in correct orientation. They will work for you fine.
Someday I will try these. For now I enjoy my King water stones, although it is annoying how often they need lapping (although that is simple and cheap once I found out about using lapping grit over an old piece of glass). My coarsest stone is an oil stone so I start with that while the water stones soak.
Ive seen some folks say that the starting grit of the stone is always extra rough, "but will even out and learn your strokes after about 10-20 knives"...i dont know if thats true, but they also added these same stones lasted some 5-10 years sharpening skates with the same stones. Im hoping its true, if they truly diminish at that level your worried about after even just one use. I might look elsewhere.
Also have to keep in mind that you don’t need to apply a lot of pressure with diamond. Let the diamond do the work. It’s the hardest thing on the planet so really very minimal pressure will do the trick. You can scrape it off, but if you let the diamond do the work like I said, they will last a long time.
Cheers for the vid! Look like at good bit of gear. Good point about digging the tip into the holes. 3:31 The View! For a sec i was looking at that forest thinkin, 'I wonder whats in them trees?' Definitely a good motivator to sharpen up the tools n go for a walk. Knew i should have bought that Vonnegut book😂
Yeah, I bought them for $80 like a week ago. Today they’re $100! Amazon prices fluctuate so much. I suspect when they get short on stock they crank up the price. The view from our back porch never gets old. We get delivery driver’s taking pics all the time lol. Can’t tolerate a dull knife, and I refuse to be without one-especially on a walk. There will always be more trips to the book store. Next time go for the Vonnegut. He’s one of my favorite writers.
Mr. Kevin, a bottom feeder I am when it comes to this topic...in using low-end diamond stones I use a very light touch always regardless of the grit or condition of the edge being sharpened...what are the Spiderco knives shown in this video? Great review...
Diamond stones alone is a rabbit hole simular to whetstones. I wonder if the diamond plates that are a deeper diamond coating keep that 'new' cutting ability. I'm deep into Japanese whetstones, Ive always wanted to try diamond but the recomended ones aren't cheap. I love that they stay flat. I recently got the green brick of joy.
@@KevinsDisobediencethe “dulling” is breaking in of diamonds, I believe. Dmt says a few knives to break them in. So after that you get the intended grit for a long time.
Work sharp guided field sharpener. Comes with coarse and fine diamond, three types of ceramic rod, and a strop all guided and all in one package for only 30-35$
DMT daisharp are my favorite for knives (Randall made knives) or axes (Tuatahi & Gransfor Bruks). You’re correct, no oil or water needed.
Always enjoy your reviews! Your sharpening skills are some of the best I have seen. I envy you! I can sharpen freehand, but it's not as smooth or artistic as you! Be cool of you did a tour of your library. It's epic!
Thanks, just practice and refining from watching YT lol. Yeah, I might do that sometime. Not many of our subs would be interested, but some of youse are.
I have had diamond stones for years to sharpen my chisels for work. These look like a big step up from mine.
You make the art of sharpening look easy. I could never get a consistent edge so I ‘invested’ in a Wicked Edge sharpening system. I’m a little concerned about how long the diamond stones will last but the trade off for a consistent razor sharp edge is worth it for me.
They don’t last that long at lower grits, but they do cut fast at first.
I've been using the larger pair of double sided ones with 4 grits for over a decade and I love them.
Thats good to know. Do you feel like the get duller over time?
@@KevinsDisobedience If they have it's been so little or so slow as to be imperceptible to me. Granted I don't have anything else to compare to. Are you sure that your perception of them dulling isn't just the dust building up on them? Maybe mine aren't as sharp as when they were new, but they're still so effective this many years later that I don't think whatever degradation they may have undergone is relevant.
Excellent review Kevin. They certainly look like they cut really fast. Beautiful day for a walk! Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for watching!
I’ll consider these next time I replace my plates.
Definitely like a diamond stone, but like you experienced, they wear out so fast.
Yep, whereas my splash and go stones will last my lifetime
Diamond stones will cut extremely aggressively initially but they break in quickly and then remain fairly consistent as long as you use very light pressure. If you let the stones do the work and use the lightest of pressure just enough to keep it on the angle they will maintain their post break in aggression indefinitely.
On aggressive stone, I push pretty hard to establish the grind. But I definitely like these. Been using them a lot. Just sharpened my moms kitchen knives for her the other day on them.
@@KevinsDisobedience I would recommend a big silicon carbide like a Norton crystlon coarse for that initial hard grind when you need to set a new bevel. Diamond stones just don't hold up great to hard pressure. I've hear people say it rips the diamonds from the stone, but I think it just rounds off the sharpest bits and turns a coarse into a medium. I have diamond plates that I have used often and roughly before I learned to ease up on the pressure, and they still cut, just way less quickly than they once did. Now when I reprofile softer steels I use a silicon carbide 11x3, and for harder steels I will use some high quality sandpaper made from ceramic material taped or glued to a flat or curved piece of wood. It's hard enough to cut the steel but also kinda disposable. I got tired of destroying my nice stones trying to grind a new bevel on some blade with terrible geometry yet made from ridiculously hard to grind steel.
I know I've said this once before, but I am terrible at sharpening knives. I just got a "build your own knife kit" as a gift and shuttered when I realized part of the "build" is to sharpen it yourself. It ain't going to be pretty.
Watch some CZcams tutorials, many of them and the most common is probably the best way
If it’s too much a bother to learn freehand, get one of those cheap jigs with the arm that holds it in correct orientation. They will work for you fine.
Someday I will try these. For now I enjoy my King water stones, although it is annoying how often they need lapping (although that is simple and cheap once I found out about using lapping grit over an old piece of glass). My coarsest stone is an oil stone so I start with that while the water stones soak.
Love King stones.
Ive seen some folks say that the starting grit of the stone is always extra rough, "but will even out and learn your strokes after about 10-20 knives"...i dont know if thats true, but they also added these same stones lasted some 5-10 years sharpening skates with the same stones. Im hoping its true, if they truly diminish at that level your worried about after even just one use. I might look elsewhere.
Also have to keep in mind that you don’t need to apply a lot of pressure with diamond. Let the diamond do the work. It’s the hardest thing on the planet so really very minimal pressure will do the trick. You can scrape it off, but if you let the diamond do the work like I said, they will last a long time.
Cool video, sir. I bet that view you have outside your house is really nice during the fall! Stay blessed, and stay safe!
All year around really, but yeah the fall is beautiful from up here
Cheers for the vid! Look like at good bit of gear. Good point about digging the tip into the holes.
3:31 The View! For a sec i was looking at that forest thinkin, 'I wonder whats in them trees?' Definitely a good motivator to sharpen up the tools n go for a walk.
Knew i should have bought that Vonnegut book😂
Yeah, I bought them for $80 like a week ago. Today they’re $100! Amazon prices fluctuate so much. I suspect when they get short on stock they crank up the price. The view from our back porch never gets old. We get delivery driver’s taking pics all the time lol. Can’t tolerate a dull knife, and I refuse to be without one-especially on a walk. There will always be more trips to the book store. Next time go for the Vonnegut. He’s one of my favorite writers.
Mr. Kevin, a bottom feeder I am when it comes to this topic...in using low-end diamond stones I use a very light touch always regardless of the grit or condition of the edge being sharpened...what are the Spiderco knives shown in this video? Great review...
They’re just cheap Spyderco knives. I honestly prefer them to the USA made designs.
Diamond stones alone is a rabbit hole simular to whetstones. I wonder if the diamond plates that are a deeper diamond coating keep that 'new' cutting ability. I'm deep into Japanese whetstones, Ive always wanted to try diamond but the recomended ones aren't cheap. I love that they stay flat. I recently got the green brick of joy.
That Green Brick is lovely! All I can say is every diamond stone I’ve used dulls quickly, even that flattening stone, and it’s $200+ 😮
@@KevinsDisobediencethe “dulling” is breaking in of diamonds, I believe. Dmt says a few knives to break them in. So after that you get the intended grit for a long time.
Work sharp guided field sharpener. Comes with coarse and fine diamond, three types of ceramic rod, and a strop all guided and all in one package for only 30-35$
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