Don't Waste Your Money On The Wrong First Sharpening Stone

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  • Knife sharpening stones, and what to buy first, so you don't waste money as a beginner freehand knife sharpener. Watch this before you buy your first sharpening stone!
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    00:00 INTRO / DISCLAIMER
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  • @charlesdavaro8554
    @charlesdavaro8554 Před 4 měsíci +219

    I am not a beginner and a experienced machinist/ mechanic
    I am starting all over at 65 to be a better sharpener because of your videos.
    YOU ARE THE BEST ON CZcams IMO !!

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  Před 4 měsíci +23

      Thanks! Really appreciate it🙏👍

    • @MrIgottap
      @MrIgottap Před 4 měsíci +18

      You’re right about these being the best sharpening reviews on CZcams. Straight up honest opinions from a guy who’s actually using the products/techniques and paying for them out of his own pocket. Not some shill that’s getting a kickback for suckering people into buying junk they don’t want or need. I stumbled (and subbed) onto this channel a few months ago and have found lots of good content. He seems to actually read the comments and addresses points brought up there in his videos. I appreciate that he knows and shows what does AND doesn’t work and is willing to demonstrate and experiment. My own sharpening skills and tools (found out about dmt products here) have both benefited from watching him. If you need proof that he knows what he’s doing just check out the close ups, I wish I could view my own work like that.

    • @jamesbarisitz4794
      @jamesbarisitz4794 Před 4 měsíci +2

      You'll find it a rewarding hobby/skill. Maintain the same angle for your passes would be my most important point. You'll get the knack quick and really appreciate the steels differences. It's kind of relaxing with time in on it.

    • @thorwaldjohanson2526
      @thorwaldjohanson2526 Před 4 měsíci +7

      I picked up the 400/1000 diamond and 1000 shapton because of you 2 weeks back, and I have some balsa wood and dmt 3 micron paste on order now. One thing you have not covered are flattening and dressing / cleaning stone. Any products there that you can recommend, especially for the shapton 1k and potentially 2k in the future?

    • @gatsbysgarage8389
      @gatsbysgarage8389 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Fuck yeah dude. Before I started watching his stuff I was dulling knives on a stone instead of sharpening them, now I can get a real nice edge with diamond stones

  • @bobaloo2012
    @bobaloo2012 Před 4 měsíci +139

    I picked up the Koramaku 1000, 2000 and 5000 on your recommendation. I use them with my Japanese kitchen knives of various steels up to HAP40 and they do a great job. Thanks for your videos, they seem like good honest advice from someone who knows what they're talking about, and not just intended to sell a product.

    • @kristianandersen5732
      @kristianandersen5732 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I got the 320, 1000 and 2000

    • @michaelwilliams5506
      @michaelwilliams5506 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@kristianandersen5732i went 320, 1000, 2000, 5000, and 12000. I'm really new to using whetstones, and for the knives i use, I'm pretty much going with the 1k or 2k to finish the edge. But in my job i use wood chisels, so the 5000 and 12k are nice to give it a super fine edge and that mirror look

  • @Aexium
    @Aexium Před 4 měsíci +31

    Would you mind making a video focused on kitchen knife sharpening (not only on what setup to use, but what angle favours secondary geometry and edge retention and how to homogenously sharpen a long blade)

  • @BenB21361
    @BenB21361 Před 4 měsíci +58

    As a beginner my beginner advice would be: buy a course stone. I had recently bought the shapton koramaku 1000 as my first stone, mostly because of your recomendation. I started out on the dull kitchen knives I had because I didn't have any experience yet and didnt want to dull my knives that where decently sharp. Couldn't figure out why I could not get a burr to form. I thought I must be doing something wrong. Turns out my knives where just extremely dull and after two hours(!) of sharpening I finally got a burr and eventualy got it shaving sharp. The correct grit to start on probably would have been 100. I think a lot of beginners who have never sharpened before are likely to have extremely dull knives that they continue using until they decide to buy a new one and chuck the old one in the drawer.

    • @testboga5991
      @testboga5991 Před 4 měsíci +5

      The burr is the key. No burr, no sharp. Once people get a burr, the world will never be the same. I'd always get coarse diamond first, though, since they cut much faster.

    • @benjamin3615
      @benjamin3615 Před 4 měsíci +13

      When I started out, I did not take the advance of buying just a single 1000 grit stone. I'm pretty familiar with abrasives due to my experience in different trades, mostly sandpaper, files, scotch pads, and cutting compound. Nobody goes out and buys 1000 grit sandpaper and uses it for every job out there. Giving the advice to only buy a 1000 grit whetstone and use it to sharpen every knife you have is like telling someone to buy a spade and use that to dig every hole you need. Or to buy a single general purpose hammer and use it for every job that needs a hammer. Some jobs need a drilling hammer or a sledge, and some jobs need a ditch witch or an excavator. A lot of people also recommend buying cheap whetstones like Kings, which wear fast and dish, and then move to a better quality. That doesn't make sense to me; why spend $30 on a whetstone, only to replace it when you wear through with another higher quality stone that costs $50. You just spent $70 when you could have just bought the quality stone at $50, learned to care for it and benefited from the higher quality, the harder wearing, the feedback and the better performance.
      So, I think the most appropriate advice to give to a beginner is to buy a set of quality whetstones to start. Buy a coarse, a finer grit and something in between. I've had luck with 320, 500, and 2000 on the Shapton Rock Star line. Shapton Kuromaku 220 or 320, 1000 and the 2000 are a good set. Naniwa S2 Advance 220, 400 and 1000 are another. These are great because you can repair a damaged knife and set a new bevel with the 220/320 grit stones, or quickly sharpen a very dull knife with the 400, 500, and sharpen to a good cutting edge with the 1000/2000. If you have to start at the 220/320, it's good to have an intermediate step to make it to the end. Some knives don't need 320 and can benefit by starting with 400/500 or even 1000. Some of these stones are also not truly at their marked grit and may be more or less coarse/fine. I would also encourage beginners to buy a bunch of cheap knives from websites or at sporting good stores to practice technique before sharpening or repairing good, expensive knives.

    • @MaxFeken
      @MaxFeken Před 4 měsíci +4

      Definitely get the diamond cheap stone he recommended. I also have the 1000 stone and the cheap whet stones. I got a burr so fast with the diamond, it really was an eye opener. He's totally right that that's the stone to learn from starting out. Now i have a strop and need to work on getting hair shaving results.

    • @imgadgetmanjim
      @imgadgetmanjim Před 4 měsíci +1

      Good that you didn’t give up. Get the Alex recommended diamond plates and it will be fast. I have used mine at a family member’s house who wrecks knives and it cuts well. I want to get the dmt. Good luck.

    • @Polet1908
      @Polet1908 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@testboga5991You dont need a burr to get a knive sharp. You need to align two bevels at the apex, not to overgrind them making a burr which youll have to remove later.

  • @decatanox2067
    @decatanox2067 Před 4 měsíci +21

    Hello from France, images with the microscope are better than a big speech. Thank you for your super technical videos

  • @genin69
    @genin69 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Ive been sharpening by hand since around 2005 and ive owned and used all kinds of stones. I once thought that DMT was the best until i got an Atoma diamond stone. Nothing compares. Nothing. Its the best. I got a 140 and a 600 grit and within no time you can slap an edge on anything. Then i got to a 1200 grit diamond very quickly and lightly and then a 5000 grit whetstone to polish and a very light pass on a strop afterwards. Hair whittling stuff within a few minutes. Just dont make a burr with the first two diamond stones. Take it very very close tho

  • @jasoncampbell6222
    @jasoncampbell6222 Před 4 měsíci +39

    This was an awesome "decision making selection" video, honest and without the prejudice of sponsorship. Best wishes from here in the UK.

  • @TJPenitencia
    @TJPenitencia Před 4 měsíci +25

    I've made all of the mistakes you've said to avoid and this advice rings very true and accurate. I still make the jump from the 1000 Shapton Kuromaku to the 5000, but I agree that an in-between stone would make the 5000 much easier. I've been looking to replace my very cheap and messy coarse stone and you've convinced me to go with a diamond plate. Awesome video. Thank you!

    • @antlerman7644
      @antlerman7644 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Naniwa pro 3k is amazing stone. Smooth, lots of feedback, slow wearing, fast to make a burr. It's really good.

  • @OptometristPrime11235
    @OptometristPrime11235 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Man I've been watching you for years and I just gotta say that your videos have come a really long way. As far as communication, production quality , and just everything in general. Good job on always improving yourself and your product

  • @Sniz2009
    @Sniz2009 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Man, I’ve just found you like a week ago. You, Sir, are a gem, when it comes to quality info about sharpening. If or whenever you’ll get all the scratch marks out of this topic , just keep the attitude in whichever endeavours you choose next. I wish you well.

  • @american1911
    @american1911 Před 4 měsíci +13

    I wish I knew this 15 years ago. I had to learn the expensive way. Great information.

    • @BCDJbunnylover
      @BCDJbunnylover Před 2 měsíci

      Same here!! Learn from expensive way!!!!!!

  • @Zorro9713
    @Zorro9713 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Holy shit Alex! Another gem to the knife-sharpening community! Super straight to the point, easy to understand and as always incredibly good advice.. Please keep blessing us with your knowledge/experience!

  • @bushman4949
    @bushman4949 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Thank you for your videos! I have been sharpening knives all my life. At first a little carborundum stone and a strop loaded with jewlers rouge. With my father's instruction circa 1972. Moved to moon stick and then later diamond stones. A couple of months ago I purchased Koramaku 1000 and 5000 stones. Holy smokes they work better than anything I have ever used. I just ordered a 2000 grit. Should be here next week. BTW the diamond paste strop is working great for me as well !

  • @tezas87
    @tezas87 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Your channel is by far the very definition of essential, clear and honest information on sharpening.
    Simply put, you made a very saturated topic abundantly clear for this viewer and you've gotten yourself another subscriber.
    Keep it up and power through

  • @netangler
    @netangler Před 4 měsíci +13

    Alex you are the real deal! I wish I could trust other channels half as much.
    I bought the S SATC stone, made a strop out of some belt leather, and use some polishing compound on it. That and your tips on keeping the wrists locked have made so much difference in my sharpening ability. I was hardly ever able to get shaving sharp after a ton of work, but now I've been able to sharpen most of my knifes to shaving sharp in a few minutes. My next investment is definitely going to be the diamond compound.

    • @OUTDOORS55
      @OUTDOORS55  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Awesome! Glad to hear 👍👍

  • @jimbleplus5243
    @jimbleplus5243 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Your channel is great and has been super inspiring in educating myself on sharpening. Also love your approach for giving advice and testing products, including clever DIY and budget options.

  • @crookmcstealie
    @crookmcstealie Před 4 měsíci +3

    I was so nervous when I saw this video because I just got a stone I ordered yesterday, but then it was the one you said you recommend buying first and I was relieved! I am pretty good at sharpening, I was raised doing it, but I really don't know much about stones. Love your videos!

  • @tylerm.9408
    @tylerm.9408 Před 4 měsíci

    This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!

  • @KOKO-uu7yd
    @KOKO-uu7yd Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much!
    I'm trying to learn and take better care of my equipment myself.

  • @kxrsuperstar
    @kxrsuperstar Před 4 měsíci +2

    Arguably, your most helpful video.

  • @boksteve
    @boksteve Před 3 měsíci +1

    I got the double sided near perfect Sharpal you recently recommended and I am very happy and amazed with the results I'm getting as a beginner. The key has been locking my wrists and turning with my body as you have demonstrated. Thanks!

  • @BBQDad463
    @BBQDad463 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you for this video. Very interesting and informative. I especially appreciated the microphotographs.

  • @Finvaara
    @Finvaara Před 2 měsíci

    I've been trying to learn how to sharpen my own kitchen knives instead of paying other people to do it, and your videos have been very educational. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @mempo77
    @mempo77 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Excellent stuff - highly appreciated. Thank you.

  • @matejfoltyn
    @matejfoltyn Před 4 měsíci +1

    It certainly feels like there is a big interest in the community for this knowledge - myself included! Love the videos and this exact one is a must watch. I was just about to order some stuff based on your other videos and this just made the decision process so much easier. Thank you. Seriously.

  • @bankuei
    @bankuei Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you so much! This is extremely helpful! I'm only beginning to learn to sharpen and your videos have been great for trying to get oriented.

  • @PlasmoX
    @PlasmoX Před 3 měsíci +3

    I picked up that course diamond stone you recommended. It's literally night and day. I would spend an hour sharpening my knives before, and never realised that having a good course stone to apex first was key. I spent about a minute and got hair whittling results. That's really what I wanted, something to quickly get a good edge and do some cooking.
    Thank you for making this great content

  • @edwinmason123
    @edwinmason123 Před 4 měsíci +14

    I've bought all your recommendations, up to Number 3! Also made my own strop. I don't use high end steels, mainly basic carbon steel. I am bringing all my knives, including kitchen knives, up to an enjoyable sharpness. Thanks for all your advice! Take care, Eddie.

  • @hoongfu
    @hoongfu Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the honest talk. You are awesome.

  • @Will7981
    @Will7981 Před 4 měsíci +2

    As usual, Outdoors55 never fails to deliver a super entertaining, informative, useful and detailed video.👍🏻

  • @Hector-vx5yc
    @Hector-vx5yc Před 4 měsíci +2

    I really enjoy watching your videos very informative. Thank you so much.

  • @nicosalfos
    @nicosalfos Před 4 měsíci +18

    I bought the 400/1000 yesterday and is arriving tomorrow can’t wait to take my first step into sharpening!
    all thanks to your videos 🤩

    • @BloodSprite-tan
      @BloodSprite-tan Před 4 měsíci +2

      I really believe that the strop is necessary you should take the next step soon.

    • @nicosalfos
      @nicosalfos Před 4 měsíci

      @@BloodSprite-tan YES! im having a hard time finding a diamond compound paste like used in the videos in Amazon UK. not sure what micron should i buy first as my first paste?

    • @BloodSprite-tan
      @BloodSprite-tan Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@nicosalfos like the video suggest you should look for 6 micron diamond, it doesn't have to be paste you could get it from any available source. like spray powder etc. If you can't find anything you could always just use the green chromium oxide, but I wouldn't bother with a nice strop if you do so. you could just put green compound on mdf or other porous soft wood surfaces. since it needs to be scrapped off and replaced more often.

    • @MortalMayonnaise
      @MortalMayonnaise Před 4 měsíci +2

      i had the 400/1000 in my cart yesterday and now it’s sold out lol

    • @justinprice7484
      @justinprice7484 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@MortalMayonnaise It sold out after his video lol, but the American one that costs 2x more is in stock so ima prob get that.

  • @2mo2time
    @2mo2time Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for your video i never thought about knife sharpening until i saw a couple of your vids and im become more and more interested in it as a skill to have thanks to you

  • @richignacio81
    @richignacio81 Před 4 měsíci

    This is gold! Very informative! I know what I am buying now without a doubt. Thank you!

  • @BenCase88
    @BenCase88 Před 4 měsíci

    I started out freehand and bought most of these recommendations and had great results. I'm glad I learned to freehand sharpen. I did finally get the newest version Work Sharp Professional Precision Adjust Knife Sharpener Tool, complete angle adjustable knife sharpening system. Being able to use the digital angle finder to the exact degree you want has been a game changing. I rarely use the freehand stones anymore. So now looking back I would just get this newest Work Sharp Professional Precision Adjust or the KME. This is just my personal opinion after trying everything mentioned and more. The newest digital guided Sharpeners are more precise at exact angles and also faster in my opinion. Stick with what works best for you. Also have fun and enjoy your knives while building skills.

  • @chezalie
    @chezalie Před měsícem +1

    Just subscribed! Was going down the rabbit hole for knife sharpening stones and your content was so helpful. Thank you! I know what to buy first :)

  • @cwooley89
    @cwooley89 Před 4 měsíci +1

    This is a great video for anyone who is starting out... I remember when I was learning how to sharpen I would frequently end up with a beautiful mirror-polished bevel on a knife that wasn't properly apexed so it was still rather dull.

  • @stuartdavenport2952
    @stuartdavenport2952 Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent summation. I couldn't agree more. Well done.

  • @jimmylemberger7419
    @jimmylemberger7419 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Exactly what people starting out need😊

  • @maxtroy
    @maxtroy Před 4 měsíci +1

    I just got the DMT extra course off the back of one of your other videos. Absolute n00b beginner here. Excited to give it a try when it arrives. Thanks so much for your help, you are a fantastic educator and your knowledge is the best kind, that gained through trial and error.

  • @krazmokramer
    @krazmokramer Před 4 měsíci +1

    THANK you, Alex, for this series of sharpening videos! Although I use a KME, I find your videos to be incredibly informative, well structured, and very well presented. I ALWAYS learn new things when I watch your videos. Plus, they are entertaining, as well!!

  • @nikolaytopilski3111
    @nikolaytopilski3111 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for this video! Very helpful.

  • @nootnuh
    @nootnuh Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for these excellent suggestions!

  • @joso5554
    @joso5554 Před 4 měsíci +1

    👍👍 Excellent advice and very clear explanation. Thanks !!

  • @myuzu_
    @myuzu_ Před měsícem +1

    Your videos showed up in my algorithm and now I have another high precision craft/hobby to get into...

  • @MALCHIOR1134
    @MALCHIOR1134 Před 4 měsíci

    Just had 0.5 and 0.1 micron paste arrive yesterday, in the process of making 2 better strops than my last strop. your advice and macro lens closeups are amazing, and I also picked up that jewellers' loupe a couple years back too! You're a legend

  • @ryanp9084
    @ryanp9084 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for the great information.

  • @DonsWoodies
    @DonsWoodies Před 4 měsíci +2

    I have used all the stones you mention here and may others. I think you are spot on with your recommendations. I may replace the 400 diamond with the Atoma 400, but it's a lot more expensive, and not necessary. Those Naniwa resin bond plates are amazing. If they made one at 10,000 grit I would use them exclusively for my woodworking tools. What you say about getting an edge on the 400 grit before moving on is key. Took me a while to learn that. Excellent informative and accurate video.

  • @charleyschaubroeck6301
    @charleyschaubroeck6301 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

  • @glockgaston2922
    @glockgaston2922 Před 4 měsíci

    Alex really good video thanks for sharing it’s really appreciated

  • @mladenvojinovic
    @mladenvojinovic Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great job, again, thank you. Short yet detailed, to the point but thoroughly explained. Much appreciated. Here is an idea, you made diy strop video, what about strop maintenance one? Cleaning, reapplying, when to do so, how, why... ?

  • @dmckenzie9281
    @dmckenzie9281 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks! Great info. I have the stuff and now I just need to practice until I'm good.

  • @Mike-kr9ys
    @Mike-kr9ys Před 4 měsíci

    Great advice, clearly and logically presented. Thank you, Sir! Refreshing and honest which is why I always view all of Outdoors55 videos. Keep up the great work. (Love your 'under the microscope' shots)

  • @USAUSAM82
    @USAUSAM82 Před 4 měsíci

    Awesome advice as always! I'll check em out!

  • @jochenwelte4071
    @jochenwelte4071 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for your advices 👍🏻

  • @greeentank
    @greeentank Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great Video! After having these two-sided sharpening stones from amazon for quite some time, I now got the Shapton Pro 1000 and it works great! Next up will be a cheaper 400/1000 diamond stone.
    One suggestion for an upcoming video: it would be nice if you could show how to keep the correct angle on longer knives, especially ones that have more of a curve to them like traditional chefs knives. I struggle a bit there on the rounded part. Also it would be interesting to do some comparison of all the tricks that are floating around: using a stack of coins/using an angle guide etc. I made myself some wooden ramps in the correct angle to make sure I am consistent. For the coin/thumb trick I suspect that this might work on some knives but not ones with a wide or narrow blade.

  • @chrisflamion2283
    @chrisflamion2283 Před 4 měsíci

    as others have mentioned, appreciate your help, I'm struggling to hold the angle and did watch your video on locking your wrists, keeping at it

  • @brunovrancic8330
    @brunovrancic8330 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You are becoming the best knife channel. Congratulations!
    Suggestion: edge geometry, thickness behind the edge, practical uses of either...

  • @HWCism
    @HWCism Před 4 měsíci

    Good practical advice, thanks

  • @Abrikosmanden
    @Abrikosmanden Před 4 měsíci

    This is the best sharpening advice on the internet!

  • @griffingibson4389
    @griffingibson4389 Před 2 měsíci

    hearing how important a strop is was the gold i needed from this

  • @Trapperx89
    @Trapperx89 Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's nice to see a more comprehensive video about stones Burrfection recommended years ago.

  • @nixnox4852
    @nixnox4852 Před 4 měsíci +2

    For me, a strop was what I was missing this whole time when it comes to making any stone work, it really does take things to the next level. I spend *less* time properly sharpening/touching up my cheapass kitchen knife now than I did using shitty pull through tools that give an edge that never lasts.
    Really appreciate the information you've put out

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 Před 4 měsíci

      For real. Even just stropping on my cutting board changed how the knives feel right off the stone. Getting rid of that burr so it doesn't fold over is key

  • @JakeVickers
    @JakeVickers Před 2 měsíci

    Just wanted to say thanks for the videos! I've learned a lot from you. Keep it up!

  • @theterroristcat5163
    @theterroristcat5163 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Found your channel a week ago, And I have to say I just love your videos man

  • @OVERYONDER104
    @OVERYONDER104 Před 2 měsíci

    Incredible! Love your videos, man, hilarious delivery!

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před 4 měsíci +4

    Good stuff, Alex! I've said for years that virtually all the actual sharpening is done on the first stone. If you're not shaving-sharp off the arato there's no point to moving on to another stone. I don't know what percentage of users are doing S110V, Maxamet, etc. most of the time? I have some of those knives but I'm a chef so most of my knives are Aogami, AEB-L or one of the Hitachi White steels. A couple of my gyutos are "super steel" and those respond well to diamonds or one of the Shapton lines. Honestly, for the more 'pedestrian' steels I could get by with my Atoma 140 diamond, 320 Shapton Pro and Naniwa Green Brick, although for my money the best single stone out there is the Naniwa 1k...at least if you're not doing Maxamet, HAP40, etc.

    • @alexgunner1882
      @alexgunner1882 Před 4 měsíci

      Isn't the shapton 320 pro too coarse? I have a 2000 pro and need something coarser, the 1000 pro is nowhere to be found, only the 320 pro and 500 glass.

  • @JohnGilliland
    @JohnGilliland Před 4 měsíci

    Very very good information!!! Could not agree more.

  • @symons666
    @symons666 Před 4 měsíci

    Brilliant advice, I havebeen that person who thought better stones would produce better results, rather than better technique !!

  • @samspade2104
    @samspade2104 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Excellent video. I especially appreciate the simplicity and directness. Thank you. P.S. Would you consider doing a video on sharpening convex edges just using strops? I have a bunch of knives that are in CMP 3V with convexed edges.

  • @artcervantes9842
    @artcervantes9842 Před měsícem

    Thanks for the advise.

  • @RStout59
    @RStout59 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video and sage advice!

  • @nativewildman9335
    @nativewildman9335 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Sharpening stones can be a rabbit hole. I learned how to sharpen on a little pocket stone. I have many stones, even one I found on the ground I flattened it and it works great on the small Texas toothpicks and similar sized blades. Cool video!

  • @themadmailler
    @themadmailler Před 4 měsíci

    You are responsible for my most recent $100 Amazon order! Thanks for your awesome, technical, in depth videos. I know it takes a lot of time to produce something of this quality!

  • @American-Plague
    @American-Plague Před 4 měsíci +1

    I took your advice on diamond stones and ordered a DMT 3 stone set (coarse/325 mesh/ 45 micron, fine/ 600 mesh/ 25 micron and extra fine/ 1200 mesh/ 9 micron), a suede/ smooth strop (came with green honing wax) and the yellow 3 micron DMT Dia-sharp honing paste. Only spend around $140. I've had shaving sharp before but not hair whittling sharp. Now my chef's knife is literally hair whittling and it didn't take but 5 minutes or so! Doubtful I'll need another stone for the rest of my life (not a knife aficionado, just need a sharp kitchen and survival/camping knife). Thanks so much!

  • @Jack-cc3qm
    @Jack-cc3qm Před 2 měsíci

    Some good reccomendations. A good strop is absolutely critical to getting a keen edge that lasts.

  • @Painterrap
    @Painterrap Před 4 měsíci

    I picked up the four stone set of Dia-sharp DMT stones from sharpening supplies and they are awesome. The kit comes with stones in 220grit, 325grit, 600grit, and 1200grit. They also have a really nice stone holder for about $35 and I also picked that up. I bought this set after spending about a year using shapton ceramic stones. I taught myself how to sharpen by hand with shapton stones, mostly using kitchen knives. As of the last few years I've gotten into higher end edc knives and that's what prompted the stone upgrade. Some of these newer super steels are just ridiculously hard and their vanadium content is high. Having said that, they are no match for the diamond stones!! In addition, I think a good strop and some proper diamond emulsion is actually far more important than most people realize. I think a quality stropping rig gets overlooked by a lot of people and that's a mistake. A two sided strop, rough on both sides, with some gunny juice is perfect. I like rough sided because it holds emulsion better. I use a 4 micron on one side and a 0.5 micron on the other and my edges will usually whittle a hair. You don't have to use Gunny Juice, that's just one option, I frequently use Jende Max, and it works just fine.

  • @leonardbremner6726
    @leonardbremner6726 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Just good old fashion common sense No BS. Thank you, sir!

  • @robthompson8285
    @robthompson8285 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I just bought the 240 grit Shapton glass stone and I was not disappointed. I also put some lapping film on the glass and bam, I got a lapping plate!

  • @kraftzion
    @kraftzion Před 4 měsíci

    You made me finally achieve a hair whittling edge. I watched you videos on strops and said ok you talked me into it. I got 6 and 1 micron diamond powder so I cleaned my strops and took the time to do it. I got it to cut and whittle hair but not with the ease you show. So I went back and watched a few more of your videos. I didn't bother to follow my scratch patterns so ill be doing that next. Your dragging me into the hair whittling sharp realm. My hair is pretty short. My niece was over who has long red hair...😅

  • @mrrooter601
    @mrrooter601 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the great videos! My first sharpening purchase about 5 years ago was a king 1000/4000 whetstone, which is fine, but looking back MAN. I wish I had learned on the S SATC instead. I picked one up recently for 20 bucks after seeing one of your other videos, and the difference in how long it takes to get a good starting edge is insane. To be honest the 1000 side of the king is absolutely terrible compared to both sides of the SATC, constantly went out of being flat, catching the blade on the stone, etc. The 4000 is fine and I will probably still use it as it does put a mirror finish on, but as far as sharpness goes, the diamond stone alone got my knives sharper than the whetstone ever did, and in much less time.
    Just picked up the stuff to make a strop too, which unfortunately ran me closer to 40$ on amazon, so I will see how that goes when the stuff gets here. I had been planning on picking up a higher grit glass stone at some point too, but I think I will wait to see how well the strop meets my needs.

  • @ryewaldman2214
    @ryewaldman2214 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I personally like the smaller size plates. especially if the majority of your knives are folding pocket knives and even for up to 5-6" hunting knives. I think it makes it more affordable to get better quality abrasives. I also prefer the feel and feedback of holding the stone in one hand and the knife in the other and the smaller stones are more manageable in the hand.
    I really like the DMT double-sided diasharp plates. One plate with diamond coarse and fine is a pretty good sweet spot. I feel like the dmt coarse is already a really fast cutter that even with really hard maxamet-class steel there is little need for the extra-coarse. Then the fine side allows you to refine a bit. In fact i will typically go to the fine side for the bur minimization after grinding on coarse. For a second stone, i like the Venev Cerberus Dog Series Dual Side Diamond plates. Again, it's a two-sided stone, so you don't have to trade off skipping grit sizes for economy. after a DMT fine, i think the venev 400-800 or 800-1200 makes a good refinement stone.

  • @watermain48
    @watermain48 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video. Thank you my young friend.

  • @btrswt35
    @btrswt35 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the tips

  • @trubkir
    @trubkir Před 4 měsíci +2

    I went backwards a bit as i bought the DMT Fine plate before i purchased the DMT extra coarse plate. I am still breaking in the extra coarse plate, but I am really liking how fast I can get a burr i can feel with the extra coarse plate. I also found one of your older videos on cleaning strops so I cleaned all the gunked up green compound off the strop, gave it a quick sand with 150grit sandpaper and loaded it with 6 micron DMT diamond paste. That old strop works so well that i almost cant believe it.

  • @arubanjames
    @arubanjames Před 3 měsíci

    Great info! I bought Norton wet stones years ago. They will work, but at not worth the headache… I will be getting the diamond you recommend!

  • @ericwallen
    @ericwallen Před 4 měsíci +6

    I have DMT and Arkansas stones, and man I still love the Arkansas stone feel and edge it creates. Not quite as fast but man it feels good...

    • @mikafoxx2717
      @mikafoxx2717 Před 4 měsíci +1

      DMT coarse, plus an Arkansas to do the fine work, that's a good combo.

  • @n6rcan
    @n6rcan Před 4 měsíci

    great video! helps a lot

  • @OldPackMule
    @OldPackMule Před 4 měsíci

    Great advice.

  • @CreativeIsolation
    @CreativeIsolation Před 4 měsíci

    Appreciate your advice. I bought the DMT course and a strop a while back on your recommendation. Took a while to get the hang of it. Can’t say I’ve got it down, but our kitchen knives can cut again! It was long over due. Thanks for the helpful info. I still need more practice to get shaving sharp though! Not quite there yet.

  • @kevintran3158
    @kevintran3158 Před 4 měsíci

    Best video so far.

  • @steveboel12
    @steveboel12 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Such a great channel

  • @kencaz
    @kencaz Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for this... I have used Paper Wheels and Fixed Angle Systems but want to get into hand sharpening... I will get what you recommend to start...! The 400 Diamond and the Strop, then the 1000...

  • @joshuabriggs7114
    @joshuabriggs7114 Před 4 měsíci

    Great recommendations! Spyderco 400/800 CBN bench stone is also a good one and done (with a strop of course:)

  • @JiryStark
    @JiryStark Před 4 měsíci +1

    Recently got a Shapton Glass 1000 and been using it to mantain my Mora knives and my leatherman multitools. So far, great results. First ever stone and still learning, but managed to get the edges to shaving sharp and its just VERY satisfying.

    • @dustinsmith4068
      @dustinsmith4068 Před 4 měsíci

      I have a very large collection of stones and that Shapton glass 1000 has been my favorite post-profiling stone. You chose wisely.

  • @MrDwrench1
    @MrDwrench1 Před 4 měsíci

    Solid advice. The Koramaku set with an original Outdoors55 strop, my knife game is strong....lol. Thanks for showing the ol dog new tricks.

  • @ppalla
    @ppalla Před 4 měsíci

    Great video, good advice.

  • @AlirezaMoeini
    @AlirezaMoeini Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for video

  • @darren8269
    @darren8269 Před 4 měsíci

    Great! Thank you. 👍

  • @JM-wy1st
    @JM-wy1st Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks! Another excellent video. What's your opinion on ceramic sharpeners?