2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports

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    The 2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid looks to build on the legacy of fuel economy, utility, and value of its predecessors. We bought a CR-V Hybrid Sport AWD for our test program, and we share our first impressions of its redesigned interior, transmission, and fuel efficiency, and how it stacks up against the Toyota RAV4, and the traditional gas-powered version. And what would be the best car for a new dad that wants to drive something sporty? Our experts share their personal picks for keeping driving exciting while staying family friendly.
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    00:00 - Introduction
    00:17 - Highlights: 2023 Honda CR-V
    01:14 - Fuel Economy
    02:40 - Hybrid vs. Non-Hybrid Comparison
    06:04 - Inside the Cabin & Controls
    09:50 - Wrap Up: Hybrid or Regular
    11:32 - Question: What would be the best car for a new dad that wants to drive something sporty?
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  • @Kikomachine1984
    @Kikomachine1984 Před 10 měsíci +4

    To the guy that said the gas engine sound is loud when it start to kick in … man you have an anxiety issues ,we just got our crv hybrid 2days ago, it is not loud u can hear it but but not loud. This car is pretty cool checks all the boxes for our needs, keep it up honda 💪🏼

  • @jeschr3462
    @jeschr3462 Před rokem +20

    this 2023 CRV hybrid AWD easily gets well over 40mpg in the city especially if the terrain is flat and you aren't gunning the throttle all the time. in the highways, you'd be lucky to get 34mpg if you drive at 70mph or over like most people. Try your best to drive around 63mph on the right lanes to save gas and don't frustrate other drivers by going 63mph on the left lanes. If you do what I just said you can get around 40 to 42+ combined mpg. Which for a car this size, is pretty damn impressive. With the FWD version you can get 2-3+ more mpg. All around this car is great. It's quieter than the rav4, its more spacious, and is more comfortable. The rav4 is louder and more jarring when hitting imperfections on the road. Also, its just my opinion but a lot of people have said the same thing, Honda hit a grand slam with the design of this 2023 model. Everyone compliments the look of it and lots of other drivers on the road turn to look at it.

    • @namvet1968
      @namvet1968 Před rokem

      Interesting info. Long wait after ordering?

    • @MovingPicturesAVideoMetropolis
      @MovingPicturesAVideoMetropolis Před rokem +1

      I drove one at the dealer and it was averaging around 30 on customer test drives. And other reviewers have said if you drive a lot of hiway miles you won't get the rated average. Expect 30; overall which is disappointing.

  • @davidhanson3345
    @davidhanson3345 Před rokem +11

    You realize that when the CRV in electric mode only, that induced noise is applied by federal law, so people can hear the car coming. Also, there is a harmonic imbalance of the fan itself. It can be adjusted to not hear. I came back from Fargo to Grand Forks yesterday. Got 49 mpg. I am older and drove 65 miles an hour. As I am a Photographer, I drive slowly in the country to take pictures. For me, this is the perfect car. To say this is a 100% CVT is not entirely true. This car has a lot more torque on the low end than my wife's 2020 CRV-Touring. Also, it is quite possible my 2.0 L engine in my sport hybrid may last longer than the 1.5 L turbo. I had a 2018 RAV-4 SE. It cost $36,000. rode like a lumber wagon and had, in my opinion, the worst AWD system made. I find your expertise suspect.

    • @NBPT428
      @NBPT428 Před rokem +5

      I've test driven the RAV4 and CR-V hybrids. The CR-V has road and steering feel, the RAV4 kind of hobbles down the road and disconnects you from it. Seems to have more hard plastic than the CR-V. Leaning towards CR-V

  • @paulhenry913
    @paulhenry913 Před rokem +41

    It doesn't have a CVT! It's a direct drive unit. For the price it's a very solid choice and very safe

    • @richh7608
      @richh7608 Před rokem

      You are incorrect.
      From the Honda website.
      Transmission: Electronic Continuously Variable Transmission (E-CVT) with B-Range Shift and Deceleration Selectors

    • @adambernstein9647
      @adambernstein9647 Před rokem +25

      Actually Rich, Paul is correct, though your confusion is understandable given Honda marketing’s choice of wording with the whole “E-CVT” thing.. the fact is that it uses 2 fixed reduction gears and electric motors. The engine will oftentimes be simply functioning as a generator for the batteries which powers the electric motors. The “paddle shifters” actually 18:42 handle regen braking functions only.
      bottom line is that there’s no transmission to speak of - just the 2 fixed gears, electric motors with variable regen, and the non turbo , Atkinson cycle ICE that will alternate between functioning as a generator and directly driving the wheels, depending on the loads being placed on it at any given time. Actually is a very ingenious setup that should produce amazing longevity…

    • @garrettw99
      @garrettw99 Před rokem +7

      Bruh I chuckled when they collectively said it was a CVT

    • @mj8495
      @mj8495 Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@adambernstein9647It is continuously variable, but it does NOT have belts like a traditional ICE CVT. This is a huge difference, as varying load on electric motor is far more reliable than shifting belts back and forth all the time... trust me, as a Nissan owner I know the limts of an old school mechanical CVT 😞

    • @GoshaXxxx
      @GoshaXxxx Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@mj8495 Hybrid model also doesnt have an alternator to worry about or starter. All handled by the electric motor. That is huge in terms of reliability and maintenance

  • @Angela-jn7iv
    @Angela-jn7iv Před rokem +3

    I just went from a 2016 mini countryman to a 2023 CRV sport hybrid and I feel like I’m in a top-of-the-line Mercedes. Everything about this car is luxurious AND I’m averaging a very UN-Mercedesl-like 43.4 miles per gallon in town. Very happy.

  • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670

    The pricier Sport Touring trim is noticeably quieter, with more acoustical dampening and acoustically lined glass. It also features the superior Bose 12 speaker sound system (if that's important to you, it's a truly major improvement over the standard sound in the Sport or in my previous top trim Accord). The power tailgate works beautifully in multiple ways, and came in handy my first night with arms full of packages to just activate it with a kick motion under the bumper. In my first week with this leased vehicle, it is not as fast as my previous Accord Touring edition with the 2 L/10 spd AT, but it is more than "fast enough." It is definitely quieter than my previous Accord in the Sport Touring trim, especially with road noise on coarse pavement. What's missing? At the price point of the ST trim, it absolutely should have included the useful heads up display as well as ventilated seats found in the Accord Touring. It costs more than the new Accord Sport Touring, so there's no excuse for that, Honda. As for getting kids and car seats in, I've seen several reviews which talk about what a great back seat the CRV has with 90 degree-opening doors, and easy seat anchors...along with loads of room. The learning curve on settings has become easier than my previous Accord(s) as well. So far, so excellent in my short experience with my first SUV, so much easier on my arthritic knees getting in and out than my beloved Accords. Subjectively, it looks fantastic in the extra cost Night Blue Pearl paint. I must say, after all these years, Honda needs to step up interior color choices.

    • @GoshaXxxx
      @GoshaXxxx Před 11 měsíci

      I dont think there is any difference in insulation in Sport or Touring hybrid other than acoustic glass. They look identical as to how they are sealed inside and out

    • @JaySee5
      @JaySee5 Před 4 měsíci

      It's so ridiculous that so many cars in the US don't have ventilated seats starting at mid-tier trims, let alone missing in top-tier trims.

    • @jacobpetersen5662
      @jacobpetersen5662 Před 3 měsíci

      I have the Sport-L. The noise dampening is identical to the Touring. It's the quietest Honda Ive ever owned and the FIRST one where I feel they actually aced it. My 2018 Accord touring was almost as good but still not quite there. This new CRV is perfect I think. I agree, miss the heads up display as well as ventilated seats, but I can live with it. I chose the Sports L because I don't like the 19" rims. They are harder on tires and affect MPG's. Also, 18's are better for anything not pavement. It's a personal opinion of course.

  • @ItsAlive111
    @ItsAlive111 Před rokem +28

    I wish there was a standard testing for interior noise. After owning a 2009 Honda Accord, I’m looking for a quiet ride and it’s really hard to make sense how loud each car is compared to say how fast or fuel efficient!

    • @davewilson7602
      @davewilson7602 Před rokem +2

      Hondas in general have a lot of interior noise you’ll probably find everything new fine.

    • @MBisFrenchy
      @MBisFrenchy Před rokem

      Agreed, I forget which magazine it is online but one used to give their NVH rating.

    • @alternatetdh3716
      @alternatetdh3716 Před rokem +6

      I used to drive a 2007 Camry until recently, and recently purchased the 2023 Accord. I can't speak for the CRV, but the Accord Hybrid is eerily quiet. Hardly any wind noise, not much road noise. CRV might be a bit more noisy, but given similarities between the two, I would imagine it's quiet as well.

    • @shivamarya5225
      @shivamarya5225 Před rokem +2

      Old Hondas had a lot of interior noise with a bad sound system too but it's really improved on both fronts especially for SUVs

    • @dougpratt3562
      @dougpratt3562 Před rokem +5

      The CRV Sport Touring Hybrid is quieter than my Chevy Volt. The Sport Touring Hybrid has additional sound proofing not available on other models.

  • @richardsparks9904
    @richardsparks9904 Před rokem +6

    Just bought a CRV sport hybrid. It’s the 5th CRV we have owned and the best. Much quieter compared to my previous CRV’s. I spend a lot of time in drive thru lanes and school drop off and pickup lanes, at least an hour a day. While idling the hybrid CRV runs off the battery for about 5 minutes then the engine kicks in for 30 seconds to recharge. I’m an aggressive driver and like the handling and it handles 80MPH on our highways just fine. I’m getting 34 mpg combined driving, in my previous CRV I got 24 mpg doing the same tasks.

    • @jacobpetersen5662
      @jacobpetersen5662 Před 3 měsíci

      Just got one too. AWD Hybrid Sport-L. Aggressive driver too. My experience is VERY similar to yours. For me, having a larger vehicle that matches or beats the 1.5T Accord is all worth it for me.

  • @spencerstein8525
    @spencerstein8525 Před rokem +5

    I think Kyle should get any car he wants. They already have the Passport which is great for kids and all the kid stuff. My children are 16 and 18 now, but when they were little, we always had a minivan or SUV for the kids, a sedan for my commute AND a Mazda MX5/Miata. For one child and a stroller, a sedan works fine....not as convenient as a minivan or SUV, but fine. Once the kids were toddlers, I would take them for drives and some weekend errands in the Miata. It was great bonding time. Car seats fit fine in a Miata and the kids loved it.

  • @barrya8981
    @barrya8981 Před rokem +7

    I test-drove a CR-V hybrid and thought it was quiet. However, I'm currently driving a 2006 Scion Xb, which has been great, but very noisy. Again, coming from my Xb, I liked how intuitive the controls are, especially compared to the needlessly complex controls in the Lexus NX hybrid. Thank you for everything CU does - your reviews are as unbiased as possible, a unique service in these days of paid/bot online reviews.

  • @jimschmitz6192
    @jimschmitz6192 Před rokem +8

    I have a 2022 hybrid CRV and if nothing else the hybrid system is far superior to a CVT (even though it’s called an e-CVT it’s not really a CVT as there are no belts and pulley’s).

  • @Wised1000
    @Wised1000 Před 7 měsíci +1

    In fact, not a CVT. In fact, there is no transmission at all though there are 2 clutches! Most of the time the vehicle runs on the electric "drive motor". The gas engine, is predominantly a generator. In high load conditions, the gas engine clutches in and adds power too. The battery is very small and acts more like a very large capacitor, adding or storing current for instantaneous needs. It's all very elegant. As you well stated, the best part of the system is how completely transparent it is. Particularly commendable is the completely normal brakes.

  • @biloxiguy81
    @biloxiguy81 Před rokem +8

    I purchased a sport hybrid a couple of weeks ago and we love it.

    • @Andrew54123
      @Andrew54123 Před rokem +1

      How is the quality of the audio system?

    • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
      @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 Před rokem +1

      @@Andrew54123 after seventh straight high end, Honda Accords, this is the best stereo I’ve heard in a Honda. I’m talking about the Bose system in the sport touring hybrid.

  • @eto2352
    @eto2352 Před rokem +2

    new office setting and colors are great. another great talking cars

  • @jeremiahmcenerney5339
    @jeremiahmcenerney5339 Před rokem +3

    My one grip is lack of spare. I've had flats twice last summer and it occur at the worst time when honda service is closed or closing. Having the spare keeps the trip on schedule. I need more options here.

  • @OLKIEMTB
    @OLKIEMTB Před rokem +5

    Coming from a 2014 Honda civic and 2016 Subaru Crosstrek, the CRV is super quiet. I guess it all depends on what you drove before.

  • @StacieS225
    @StacieS225 Před rokem +7

    The Sport Touring is much quieter than the Sport trim y'all tested. Acoustical windshield is what makes the road and wind noise almost non-existent.
    Ventilated seats would be nice...like in the Accord Sport Touring.

    • @joegophotos
      @joegophotos Před rokem +1

      Yea that is true, thats a big miss to point out.

    • @lindajohnson8634
      @lindajohnson8634 Před 11 měsíci

      The ventilated seats and larger screen have me seriously torn between the accord and cr-v. Living in FL, ventilated seats are nice. Plus, a bit higher mpg and a bit lower price tag. We drive a sedan now but like the idea of a compact SUV.

  • @inspector4133
    @inspector4133 Před rokem +7

    We bought one. It (Sport Touring Hybrid) was one of the few hybrids we could get without paying big markups over MSRP. I don't think $40k is overpriced for the quality, mileage and amenities. Waited three months for it, but overall very satisfied. Great interior space, amenities, very comfortable with two large dogs in the back seat. Here at home, it's really a nice vehicle. It's got convenience and lots of features that rival some luxury modles (looking at you BMW).
    However, recently took it on an 8hr drive to mtns of VA. The Honda CVT was severely disappointing trying to go up steep interstates. Just can NOT drive at interstate speeds (70mph) and go up steep hills. The over revs as it searched for a shift point were just frightening. I feared damaging it. Took some learning and a bit of fiddling with modes and accelerator, but it's still an annoyance. Outside of that, we didn't find it loud or unpleasant. Then again, we just traded in a 2007 CR-V. It's much better. I'd say it's closer to my Audi A5.
    In the city, or on the flats, it's great. But if I lived in Colorado or some other mountainous area, I'd give it a miss. Not a deal breaker for us, but we will be more circumspect before taking a mountain drive again.

    • @garrickhanson
      @garrickhanson Před rokem +9

      There are no shift points. I also have the Sport Touring... The engine revs when the motor needs power. They programmed the engine to sound like it was revving like it has a normal transmission... either conventional or CVT... but it has neither. We just drove up to the Tahoe area this week, and it made it up the mountain just fine. Don't worry about the engine revving, and just drive normally. You won't break it.

    • @hukmai
      @hukmai Před rokem

      Yeah is pretty much an "automated 3 speed manual"

    • @bsd107
      @bsd107 Před 6 měsíci

      You can thank the ridiculous comments like those made by Consumer Reports in this video for that. These geniuses complain about CVTs and like the fake shifts. The whole point of a CVT is that it allows the engine to operate in its most efficient or powerful speed, to give the best economy or performance. Instead of educating the advantages of this to the ill-informed public, they instead feed into this by complaining about “droning” when the engine is at fixed speed and liking the fake shifts. To avoid too many “bad” comments from reviewers like CR and others on CZcams, the auto manufacturers are forced to nerf the CVT advantages by putting in fake shift programs into the cars, which negates the entire advantage. There is one reviewer on CZcams who drove this car, actually understands CVTs, and figured out how to force the car to skip the fake shifts - the 0 to 60 time was reduced by almost a second!
      I wish CR would just buy a used stick-shift car for their shifting “fun” and let the technology of cars progress for the better.

  • @garrettw99
    @garrettw99 Před rokem +3

    CR needs to educate themselves on what cars have CVTs and which do not. This does not have a CVT. It is a direct drive “E-CVT” that doesn’t have any relation to a CVT. E-CVT is just marketing jargon so shoppers don’t get startled when the engine drones.

  • @peterandrewj
    @peterandrewj Před rokem +8

    I think the price of the CRV hybrid is justified and that it's better than the RAV4. And I would never choose the 1.5-liter turbo over the hybrid. Regardless, I'm sure Consumer Reports will rate the CRV above the RAV4 and recommend them both.

    • @joeford2127
      @joeford2127 Před rokem +1

      it needs a spare tie though even if its under the vehicle

  • @karlnehring6114
    @karlnehring6114 Před rokem +3

    As a previous commenter noted, it's not a CVT. No transmission, actually. Electric motor drives the wheels directly. Please, do a bit more research before presenting your opinions to the public. CR should have higher standards!

  • @oldshowfanatic77
    @oldshowfanatic77 Před rokem +4

    Obviously these new guys do not know what they are talking about. It DOES NOT HAVE A CVT!!! Honda calls it an eCVT which consists of a two motor hybrid system. No gears, no pulleys, no transmission!

  • @jp93309
    @jp93309 Před rokem +8

    If the gas tank size is equal across all CR-V trims, then the hybrid would be my pick. Fewer trips to gas up is worth the extra expense up front.

    • @StacieS225
      @StacieS225 Před rokem

      The gas tanks are the same size (14 gallons).

  • @richh7608
    @richh7608 Před rokem +1

    Good podcast but confused why during the customer question you picture the latest version of vehicles discussed but the prior generation Civic (last made 2021).
    Child seat fit is also discussed with specific reference to the Civic. Is that prior gen / current gen or both?!

  • @juanmc76
    @juanmc76 Před rokem +3

    What a beautiful SUV ! The "still night pearl" color looks soooo good. I like that the front bumper is just black colour in this Sport trim. The touring has some "silver" color details that I honestly dont like. I think the way that the Sport looks is the best, even better than the Touring. I noticed that Honda released the CRV SR in Indonesia. It looks so attractive in that blue colour with a full black front bumper. Good job for the ones that chose that color combination.

  • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
    @ragweedmakesmesneeze Před rokem +2

    How does it compare to the RAV4 Hybrid? Obviously it's easy for me to look up things like fuel efficiency, but wondering about the driving experience, cabin noise, comfort, etc.

  • @cosyr
    @cosyr Před rokem +1

    As a parent with a 1 year old daughter, a Civic SI has been no problem. It fits strollers in the trunk better than some SUV's I've rented. The only accommodation I've made is when she graduated from the removable infant car seat, I splurged for the turning Child Seat, to avoid twisting her in the back door, with the low roof. But a more expensive car seat is less expensive than just a couple months of higher monthly payments on a more expensive SUV, so no brainer. On days when she's in the car, it's a normal, comfortable car. On days she's not in the car, I can find a twisty back road to work, and have a lot more fun!

  • @scottvickery2057
    @scottvickery2057 Před rokem +2

    I would bet that at the mid cycle refresh, it'll be hybrid only...and the step up will be plug in hybrid and/or BEV...

  • @MajorHattery
    @MajorHattery Před rokem +1

    I bought a 2023 Sport Touring recently, and I'm very happy with it. It's roomy (important because I'm tall), pleasant to drive, and overall a very "refined" vehicle. My only real complaint is I wish Honda had up the "gears" differently and optimized it better for realistic highway driving. While I'm getting 40-ish MPG in the city, the only way I'm getting 34 MPG on the freeway is if I'm driving 65mph on flat land....and that never happens.

  • @Jeremiah0009
    @Jeremiah0009 Před 5 měsíci +2

    eCVT is completely different from CVT, ( e = electronics ) not a pulley system.
    HYBRID has eCVT, no alternator, no starter looking forward to the FIT Hybrid if available here.

  • @petegalindez9961
    @petegalindez9961 Před rokem +3

    Great review…on the CarPlay, can you guys think of one vehicle that has reliable wireless CarPlay? Every one I’ve tried or spoken to people with them, they have intermittent issues with CarPlay connecting, especially after each iOS update…I have wireless CarPlay in my Wagoneer and I just bypass that and plug it in…too many connection issues…did the same on previous cars…I just get a cord that matches the interior of the car, mount it and leave it in there.

    • @dougpratt3562
      @dougpratt3562 Před rokem +3

      I have a 2023 Honda CRV Sport Touring that has wireless CarPlay that works well.

  • @letsgocapsbeatpens
    @letsgocapsbeatpens Před rokem

    I like the record scratching at the beginning.

  • @bmlove81
    @bmlove81 Před rokem

    I have a 2021 Accord Sport SE. And it doesn't have a mute button. Why does Honda omit the mute button?

  • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670

    Just watched this for a 2nd time, 6 weeks after I've leased my top trim Sport Touring hybrid. IF you can afford it, there's no comparison in the level of refinement between the nonhybrid and the Sport Touring which, again, comes with extra sound deadening and acoustical glass not in the the "lesser" hybrid. The AWD takes the hybrid mileage down a little, but I've been averaging 35-37 mpg in mixed 60% highway/40% urban. On the less common purely urban kind of driving, I'm seeing 40-42 mpg. I've had 7 consecutive leased Accords, and now switched from a 2020 Touring Accord to this CRV. The Sport Touring is the most refined Honda I've had, and don't miss the Accord in the least. Same direct drive (it's NOT a CVT, as you said) as the Accord hybrid. It's quieter, handles surprisingly well, and has great torque off the line. Also, as in the Accord Touring, you get the superior 12 speaker Bose sound system, but not the 12.3"screen...you get 9".

  • @GoshaXxxx
    @GoshaXxxx Před 11 měsíci +2

    You guys fail to mention a lot of key details for the Hybrid model, which makes its price difference THAT much better.
    1. Hybrid is better insulated and more rigid which makes it a better performing car. Its Sealed better going by other reviews
    2. Hybrid model does NOT have a belt driven system, doesnt have an alternator, and doesnt have a starter. All of that is handled by one of the electric motors. That is HUGE. It practically has no maintenance associated with other than oil changes.
    3. Hybrid Breaks last 100k-150k miles before needed to be changed because regenerative breaks do most of the work. Again less maintenance
    There are far more upsides to the Hybrid model. It looks far better too. I dont think Touring is worth it over the normal Sport AWD.

  • @jiamiekori6575
    @jiamiekori6575 Před rokem +2

    Remember, Honda doesn’t do fleet cars like the other brands mentioned in the video. So the sales numbers will be inflated with commercial and rental sales.

  • @Wised1000
    @Wised1000 Před rokem +2

    It's NOT a CVT at all.. The description of it as an ECVT is a total misnomer. Its a 2 electric motor hybrid. One is a generator the other is a drive motor. The car mostly operates as an EV. At higher speeds the gas engine provides most of the power. Everything else is "fake" shifting. THere is little CVT "rubber banding" because there is no actual CVT belt tranny.

  • @CrunchySnacks
    @CrunchySnacks Před rokem +1

    My husband and I are opposites in owning phones.. he has iPhone and I have Andoid.. weve alrway had issues connecting by bluetooth to the car (perhaps it was a Toyota issue) it was so annoying. So in that perspective, I am totally ok hard wiring it in as its mote reliable that way imo.

  • @scottsinnott2636
    @scottsinnott2636 Před rokem +5

    It is interesting that nobody mentioned the fact that CRV Hybrids are shipping without the blind spot sensors.

    • @michaelrundell4548
      @michaelrundell4548 Před rokem

      Good point. Just bought this car about 3 days ago. Luckily the one on the lot had the sensors, but this shortage of the sensors & the fact that they arent included standard is genuinely nonsensical. It's 2023 and a car over $32K should have what I would consider a standard safety feature included in the sticker price and in every car.

    • @agonz162
      @agonz162 Před rokem

      Very few dealerships have that feature. Its due to the chip shortages. Sunset Honda in San Luis Obispo, CA had a still night pearl color with the blind spot monitoring. I searched all over the state and they were the only ones with it

    • @adarkstarz
      @adarkstarz Před rokem

      I'm happy mine has it ( by chance), saved me a couple of times... now I cannot imagine having a car without it

  • @andresweeney231
    @andresweeney231 Před rokem +2

    Hi I truly enjoy your reviews, thank you. I am in the market for a compact SUV, Hybrid would be nice, 2nd family vehicle mostly city driving. Given the fuel savings potentially cancelled by the $4,500 premium what is the break even point? How many years / months / mileage before recouping the extra cost? Thank you.

    • @barrya8981
      @barrya8981 Před rokem +3

      A gas vehicle that averages 25 mpg, driven 10,000 miles, uses 400 gallons/year. At $3.50/gallon that's a $1,400 annual fuel cost. If the vehicle gets 40 mpg, the fuel cost is $875, a savings of $525. The greenhouse gas emissions from the 25 mpg car (at 20 pounds of emissions/gallon) would be 8,000 pounds per year,. From the 40 mpg car, 5,000 pounds, a savings of 3,000 pounds/year. However, you also should factor in the higher taxes, insurance, and financing of the more expensive hybrid vehicle.

    • @gpaull2
      @gpaull2 Před rokem +1

      @@barrya8981 Excellent breakdown and pretty much the same conclusion I came to. The recoup time is longer than most people will own the vehicle, and that’s before you factor in the added complexity and potential additional repairs….plus the interest on the loan for the additional $$$$.

    • @chillwill120
      @chillwill120 Před rokem +2

      @@gpaull2 Barry's example assumes a gas price of $3.50 and 10,000 miles driven a year. I would not assume that gas will stay at $3.50 a gallon - do you remember when gas was $5 a gallon only a few months ago? If gas prices average $4.00 a gallon over the next few years (which is very possible) and you drive 13,500 a year (which is average), the break even point is closer to 5 years. Also, even though there is a lot of fear mongering about hybrid batteries failing, hybrids are actually very reliable and I wouldn't expect any additional repair costs. I have a Toyota Prius and the reliability has been outstanding - way better than the conventional cars I've owned.

  • @arneldobumatay3702
    @arneldobumatay3702 Před rokem +1

    Hard to get use to the new "studio" layout and the new participants. I must be getting old and clinging to what I'm familiar with! I'll still watch and see how this progresses.

  • @michaellin1393
    @michaellin1393 Před rokem +2

    Id get the GTI too but the thing is its hard to imagine it lasting 10+ years since i like to keep my cars for a long time.

    • @bryb2644
      @bryb2644 Před 5 měsíci

      I had a GTI. The timing belt tensioner on the 5 was made of plastic. Had the car in Germany, great car and drove like it was new until the day it never started again. Ten years after I bought it with 162,000 miles. I drive a Honda civic now. Thinking of getting the touring.

  • @VoicesofMusic
    @VoicesofMusic Před 5 měsíci

    1:29 that figure is for AWD, not the FWD 4:44 it's ecvt not cvt, there's two clutches for real shifting points

  • @MJ74NC
    @MJ74NC Před rokem

    Just got the Sport Hybrid and if the road is in good shape its quiet enough, but if the road is older or just doesnt have good asphalt it has a lot of road noise.

  • @cavarabdic
    @cavarabdic Před rokem +1

    "A little bit of a price premium, $4,500." Wow! I guess my idea of a little bit is a little bit different 😂

  • @Justacogg
    @Justacogg Před 2 měsíci

    What model did you rate.

  • @rockymountainjazzfan1822

    I have yet to find a quiet hybrid vehicle outside of the very expensive car segment. I have a Toyota Prius that I absolutely love, EXCEPT for the awful road noise in the car. By comparison, for years my other vehicle was a Ford Super Duty base model (XL) diesel pickup. It was WAY quieter in the cabin, despite being a diesel truck.

  • @anotheran
    @anotheran Před rokem

    Kyle should buy civic type r. Lots of hatch space. If I must pick from that list then Corolla gr for resale. Elantra N, GTI, and integra type s are good choices too.

  • @themountainsarecalling42

    just bought the 2023 hybrid sport touring and am already having issues. The drivers side seat buckle digs in painfully into my right hip. Honda does not seem concerned that I'm literally in a large amount of pain in my over $44,000 new CRV. I'm 5'7, 210. That's absolutely awful that I'm not super comfortable. I've tried adjusting it but there's no way to do so. Anyone having this problem or have a solution? Also, my MPG are no where near what is advertised. I'm getting 30-32 combined highway/city in my awd that is advertised to get 40/37/34.

  • @nsteblay
    @nsteblay Před rokem +5

    Noisy?! Wow. Quietest car I've ever had. Strange. I'm getting EPA numbers driving in Minnesota. Having driven a hybrid the past 10 years there is a tremendous amount of variability in MPG. I can't see and wouldn't trust Consumer Reports to be the last work for testing MPG in these hybrids.

    • @joegophotos
      @joegophotos Před rokem

      They tested the sport....the sport touring has acoustic paneling and glass so not sure which you have.

  • @mitchellc2723
    @mitchellc2723 Před rokem +1

    Wait, you were talking about the CVT and noise in the hybrid? The Hybrid DOES NOT HAVE A CVT

  • @marathonkev
    @marathonkev Před 8 měsíci

    Great review comparing the cars. Depending on the trim levels you are comparing, the price difference between gas and hybrid are MUCH closer that they indicate in this video. I'm trying to decide between the 2024 EX-L gas and Sport L hybrid which come with almost the exact same features other than one is a gas only and the other is a hybrid. There is only a bit more than $2000 difference in price compared to well over $4K they mention in the video. For just a 2K difference......I'm leaning more now towards the hybrid. I remember back in 2007 when I was buying a Honda Civic (which I'm still driving) it was over a $7K difference so I stuck with gas. Anyway.....the lack of a spare on the hybrid is another difference I'm working through as I make my decision on whether to buy the EX-L or the Sport L.

  • @Druezer
    @Druezer Před rokem +1

    Why are you showing the last generation Civic?

  • @gr8wish
    @gr8wish Před rokem +1

    I have a 2023 CRV Hybrid. I drive Freeway (65-70 MPH) and city. Averaging 29 MPG overall. Freeway 28 MPG and City 35 MPG. You are right The numbers Honda gives are not even close to reality.

    • @michaelrundell4548
      @michaelrundell4548 Před rokem +1

      Hmmm I just bought and I've done about 80% highway and I'm at 34 MPG overall. It's been about 80 miles though so nothing crazy.

  • @jesseweirmalave
    @jesseweirmalave Před rokem

    Kyle just keep the Passport. You will need the space! I have a 2019 ExL and we love it. But from your list definitely the civic.

  • @danhoang6335
    @danhoang6335 Před rokem +2

    I had owned many Hondas (Accords, CR-Vs) over the years and they were all noisy with road/wind/engine noise. Bought a Subaru Outback then a Toyota Prius to realize how quiet they are compare to the Hondas, even with the Hybrid engine the Prius is MUCH quieter in most driving conditions.

    • @IamGroot786
      @IamGroot786 Před rokem

      Makes sense, the Prius is very aerodynamic.

  • @mohamadhamad92
    @mohamadhamad92 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I leased a 2024 Honda CRV Sport Hybrid 3 months ago. It says that the fuel economy is 40/36 city/Hwy but I feel that mine is way less than that. I think it’s averaging less than 30 mpg. Anyone else has the same issues? Any recommendations?

    • @ztekz
      @ztekz Před měsícem

      If it’s brand new then the mileage will just get better over time. You’re likely still within the break-in period

  • @craigmerkey8518
    @craigmerkey8518 Před rokem +4

    Hello, love the show! This panel setup is new for me! The individual microphones is a great addition that really enhances the experience. Also Jen is the absolute best host! She is so approachable and engaging as a member of the team without attempting to standout as the expert. I like how she allows the other panel members to give input and complete their thoughts without interrupting. Jen has a reasonable sense of humor without feeling overwhelming or dysregulated moving into juvenileness!

    • @DJL78
      @DJL78 Před rokem

      LMFAO! Said nobody ever! 🤡

  • @kimhoang9635
    @kimhoang9635 Před rokem

    Is the CRV hybrid sport touring worth the price difference over the Sport ???

    • @mj8495
      @mj8495 Před 4 měsíci

      Yes, if you want the additional features. 😊

  • @richardc6932
    @richardc6932 Před rokem

    I have had a number of Hondas over the years including one EXL Accord, two EXL CRVs and a 2021 Touring edition CRV all purchased new from the same dealer. I guess I could say I am a big fan of Honda. The one problem..the 2021 Touring ( my wife’s daily driver) has had 5 or 6 times where it went into limp mode without showing a code. A claim to the dealer and finally resulted zero findings. Apparently the only one in North America they said. I’m in the market for a car for myself but reluctant to try a Honda Hybrid. With two clutches and many parts in the transmission it gives you the shift feeling but could be less dependable than the competition, the Toyota / Lexus which has been around a lot longer and a proven system.

  • @r10001
    @r10001 Před 9 měsíci

    Test drove both rav4 and crv hybrid. Went with crv st bc it's much quieter and more spacious. Don't care about mpg. But if I did I would have gone with RAV4.

  • @kenedward4585
    @kenedward4585 Před 6 měsíci

    I have a honda crv 2019, but I am hearing about wide spread AC failure issues with low miles. Throw in the fuel in the oil issues, and I am really wondering how these can be rated so high.

  • @richardc6932
    @richardc6932 Před rokem

    The prices you quote are$US and scary when converted to Canadian.

  • @aegidiozdezous9294
    @aegidiozdezous9294 Před 11 měsíci

    Looks much better than the last gen. Like the larger windows, but the side profile looks anaemic. Rear lights are straight out of a Volvo. But a better copy than the last gen

  • @tyronejohn6291
    @tyronejohn6291 Před rokem

    the hybrid sport is best in the city iam in nyc, I get 35-41 so far- 25-28 the worst ,had it 6 weeks now.

  • @JaySee5
    @JaySee5 Před 4 měsíci

    The hybrid is actually more mechanically simple and reliable than the gas CVT.

  • @SL-vs7fs
    @SL-vs7fs Před 5 měsíci

    To break even on the costs between the regular vs hybrid, one would have to drive 216 K miles. Your TCO is higher with the hybrid. Put that money in the bank. You will come out ahead even more. Also, by then, the battery will probably need replacing.

  • @chuckwalla2967
    @chuckwalla2967 Před rokem +2

    I completely agree with the guy in green shirt. This has a lot of road and some wind noise.

  • @butch8792
    @butch8792 Před rokem

    10 Gen Civic or 11 Gen? I think they're talking about the new one?

  • @nathanchambers985
    @nathanchambers985 Před rokem +2

    Most people will buy the regular gas CRV. Cars are too expensive for average people.

  • @ThePapaJohnKing
    @ThePapaJohnKing Před rokem

    The letter writer should keep his Passport Touring . It’s a much better family vehicle than the other hatchback choices he’s talking about ! Surprised they didn’t mention that .

  • @plightn
    @plightn Před rokem +1

    So the hybrid mpg advantage seems kind of pointless.

    • @rohitnijhawan5281
      @rohitnijhawan5281 Před rokem +1

      wife got a sport model. she's not hitting highway mileage and combined she's at 34 tops. it's still better than the EX/L but she's disappointed by the number. On the highway she's getting 29/30 on the highway.

  • @foxlake6750
    @foxlake6750 Před rokem

    CR gave the Hyundai Tucson Hybrid big marks, how does the CRV Hybrid compare ?

  • @jerkchickenblog
    @jerkchickenblog Před rokem

    we love jen. if she ever quits we riot

  • @wackit6756
    @wackit6756 Před rokem +4

    That dude in the green shirt (Steve Elek) has the same head as Mike Monticello especially in the side view…..Are you sure this isn’t his brother? Is this a insidious case of nepotism?😂

  • @high-techredneck2300
    @high-techredneck2300 Před rokem

    The hybrid gives better acceleration because the motors can work together

  • @hereigoagain5050
    @hereigoagain5050 Před rokem

    Kyle may want to consider a sporty EV. They do not cost much more than his list and have lots of interior space.

  • @avaz5490
    @avaz5490 Před rokem +1

    I want wireless android-auto but I don't want ugly black wheels, and I also don't want sticky leather seats, especially living in the hot Southwest. Wireless android-auto with silver alloy wheels and cloth seats not possible with the obtuse packaging restrictions. Honda has lost it.

  • @mfbikle
    @mfbikle Před rokem +3

    65 mph? Dang that’s slow compared to Mt 75 or TX 80.. you should test the vehicles a higher speeds for the national average!?

  • @dwsolberg
    @dwsolberg Před 11 měsíci

    That one person just keeps talking over everyone.

  • @tyronejohn6291
    @tyronejohn6291 Před rokem

    it's quiet enough, alot of technology mixed together.

  • @rafars2246
    @rafars2246 Před rokem +2

    There's no transmission in this car lol

  • @adarkstarz
    @adarkstarz Před rokem

    my crv hybrid gets 39 MPG combined.

  • @T-rick
    @T-rick Před rokem

    Look how far we've come - bitching about using cables for a phone! Looking at a CR V after parting with my 2007 Honda ridgeline

  • @charlier8573
    @charlier8573 Před rokem

    Comparing the ice unit of Toyota's hybrid which is equipped with port and direct injection to prevent carbon build up is better than just direct injection of honda's engine that won't, honda's hybrid transaxle uses clutch packs to engage and disengage the engine and this is done constantly potentially becoming a point of failure, in Toyota's transaxle no clutch to worry about it. The clear winner is Toyota hands down. 😊

  • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
    @ragweedmakesmesneeze Před rokem

    I also find it interesting that CR has noted in the recent past that some hybrids, notably those in the Kia/Hyundai family, are more refined and unequivocally better than their corresponding gas-only vehicles. But with the CR-V they were more split on which version of the Honda was better. I think this reflects how Honda has approached hybrid versions of their cars over the years starting with their mild hybrids of past generations that were just...okay. The bare minimum.

  • @rohitnijhawan5281
    @rohitnijhawan5281 Před rokem

    For the price (unless you can get a 3-4k discount on the sport touring model), I find the tucson being a far better value - loaded with features and a beautiful interior and higher quality materials in the Limited Trim.

  • @krefcenz
    @krefcenz Před 9 měsíci

    the EPA tests are more designed for best practices. If you want to dumb down your tests, it's your weakness.

  • @shaadahmed4456
    @shaadahmed4456 Před rokem

    HONDA ❤️🇯🇵❤️

  • @darrenchan4594
    @darrenchan4594 Před rokem +1

    test drove this thing yesterday. it is just way underpower.

  • @gwapogreg5837
    @gwapogreg5837 Před rokem

    The bottom line is it's the most expensive vehicle in its class while being the slowest and least efficient so no matter how good anything else is its thumbs down . Does Honda think everyone is stupid.But they will sell everyone because they have cars on the lot when you can only order a Toyota and wait months.

  • @Buc_Stops_Here
    @Buc_Stops_Here Před rokem

    That is a very odd question - none of those cars he mentioned are great for kids. VW GTI is probably the best bet as I agree because the rear seat is much more manageable. Sports cars are not great for kids, sorry.

  • @yiyangcheng
    @yiyangcheng Před rokem +1

    Just feel like this current gen CR-V looks like a VW Tiguan

  • @marktepper3440
    @marktepper3440 Před rokem +1

    GTI is the worst reliable car I’ve ever owned. Bad recommendation unless you are a mechanic.

  • @juelzm149
    @juelzm149 Před rokem

    Hondas are great, but they are noisy!
    Kyle - unless I'm misunderstanding the situation, just keep the Passport. Plenty of extra space you'll be glad you have it!

  • @brexas1293
    @brexas1293 Před rokem +4

    When I see Jennifer I watch 😊

  • @MattAHenderson
    @MattAHenderson Před rokem

    Jennifer pretty much called Mike fat. Twice.

  • @genericyoutuber3394
    @genericyoutuber3394 Před rokem +3

    I'm leasing a 2023 CRV Hybrid Sport and it's definitely a vehicle I would never buy. Honda's choice to remove basic options like the blind spot detection is just pitiful. I had 2021 CRV Hybrid EX and it had all the features one would expect in this day in again. The new CRV just feels CHEAP. The radio is completely obsolete along with horrible instrument cluster -only the left side is digital. CHEAP. Honda's quality has taken a major hit. It really reminds me of a 2015 Sonata inside -cheap materials. I should have just waited for the RAV4, but because my lease was ending and finding a RAV4 hybrid in my area is nearly impossible I leased the CRV. Once the lease is up in 3 years, goodbye Honda.

  • @billyrock8305
    @billyrock8305 Před rokem +4

    It’s a beauty. But colossally overpriced.
    Even the current old RAV4 is better and less money. Major Redesign in 2024/2025. 😊

    • @davewilson7602
      @davewilson7602 Před rokem +4

      I think a good thing to look at is comparably equipped ones. There’s almost 20 Rav4 trims, Honda has five in total. When you compare similar Rav4 and CRV trims the price delta is usually within a thousand.

    • @ThirdBrainLives
      @ThirdBrainLives Před rokem +1

      Get a better job. All cars have gone up in price.

    • @rafars2246
      @rafars2246 Před rokem

      @@ThirdBrainLives Yes, but Honda is the new king of overpricing, simply because they barely can manufacture...

  • @dougmanck4149
    @dougmanck4149 Před rokem +1

    The engine runs all the time, just the RPMs change