2024 Chevrolet Trax | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports

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    The newly redesigned Chevrolet Trax is almost a foot larger than the outgoing model and offers a tempting low price tag. We purchased the 2024 Chevrolet Trax 1LT for our test program, and discuss if the small price will compel buyers to look past the dull driving experience and uninspired cabin and overcome competitors including the Honda HR-V, Hyundai Venue, Kia Seltos, Mitsubishi Outlander Sport, and Nissan Kicks.
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    00:00 - Introduction
    00:28 - 2024 Chevrolet Trax first impressions
    02:17 - Driving dynamics
    07:35 - Ride comfort
    09:48 - Seat comfort
    11:36 - Cabin design
    13:17 - Controls
    16:18 - Rear seat comfort
    17:02 - Cargo space
    17:22 - Lack of AWD
    19:08 - Fuel economy
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    Cars, SUVs, and Trucks With the Best Fuel Economy
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    2024 Chevrolet Trax
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  • @BobPhillipsRC
    @BobPhillipsRC Před 8 měsíci +71

    I just purchased the exact same model with the exact same options as you reviewed. In fact even the same color. I just finished a 1000 mile trip with it. I think it is an absolutely fantastic car. In fact for the trip we averaged 38.3 mpg which was amazing. It rides nice, the seats were comfortable. Had no issues driving it on the highway. Very very pleased with my purchase.

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 Před 8 měsíci +6

      U find it fantastic now til the problems show up and the major maintenance repairs come around 😂

    • @sidneyhemphill4383
      @sidneyhemphill4383 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@cormaro1376welcome to owning a car. 🫠

    • @BobPhillipsRC
      @BobPhillipsRC Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@cormaro1376 I guess you keep you cars longer than I do, once they need washing it’s off to the dealer for trade in. 😂

    • @sandrahinds4444
      @sandrahinds4444 Před 6 měsíci +14

      I have noticed this person commenting on other reviews topics for the Trax. It's always negative! I think he really loves this new Trax, since he's checking out all the reviews. Lol😂 I haven't gotten to be old as I am 60+ and have someone tell me what, I want to spend my money own. I love my 2RS 2024 Trax!!

    • @juliegill9322
      @juliegill9322 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@sandrahinds4444 how much?

  • @brucekalter4206
    @brucekalter4206 Před 10 měsíci +79

    What you guys (& some others) are missing is that the Trax is a small crossover -- front wheel drive is fine. you want AWD, get the TrailBlazer for a bt more; it's a mini-SUV. The Trax is lower, the TrailBlazer is taller w/ higher seating position. I think Chevy deserves credit for having BOTH of these cars.

    • @crow_2k11beatsbydre8
      @crow_2k11beatsbydre8 Před 10 měsíci +5

      well said.

    • @warrenpuckett4203
      @warrenpuckett4203 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I picked the FWD because I don't drive the little SUV in snow. Also it was cheaper and gets better gas mileage.
      I drive the RWD behemoth in snow.
      Buying with all bells and whistles?
      Better off leasing. Let somebody else keep up with or deal with the inconvenience of getting those things fixed or replaced when they fail..

    • @claybarnett6350
      @claybarnett6350 Před 8 měsíci

      Sigh. This could’ve been a more efficient, lighter, quicker, better-handling sedan or hatchback for similar or less money - a Sonic or Cruze. A nice design, but destined for Enterprise and low resale, like base soec Konas and Kicks.

    • @ericbryant796
      @ericbryant796 Před 8 měsíci +4

      CR has pointed out and proved a FWD vehicle equipped with winter tires is better in snow than AWD with all season tires....but people still rather drive AWD and that comes down to the difference in feel behind the wheel.

  • @marekw.9816
    @marekw.9816 Před 10 měsíci +75

    Nice to see a manufacturer put such a solid effort into an affordable model.

  • @benjaminpage4288
    @benjaminpage4288 Před 10 měsíci +25

    Finally a review of a car that people can actually buy.

  • @BensEcoAdvntr
    @BensEcoAdvntr Před 10 měsíci +106

    The latest GM sales numbers came out today and they're already moving a ton of these. For all its shortcomings, it's a pretty compelling vehicle given the price.

    • @dangerdaaku
      @dangerdaaku Před 10 měsíci +11

      This. Price point. With used car prices still high, this makes so so much sense for a family to have this. Price-conscious buyers in a bind should go with this and enjoy driving under warranty. For many who are just in the market for a car to go from point A to B in an urban setting... this is a fantastic price point.

    • @Cerby1979
      @Cerby1979 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Will be wondering how it’s Buick sibling, the Envista will do.

    • @henryd1981
      @henryd1981 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Cerby1979 A friend of mine that works at a Buick dealer says they are selling almost as quickly as they get them. Some are even pre-sold.

    • @datacipher
      @datacipher Před 8 měsíci

      😂😂 many will never learn. So many dullards wanting to part with their money. In 5 years this will be yet another junk-heap vehicle… with tattered remains of them going for Pennies… 💁🏻‍♂️ well people get what they deserve. They’ll be sad but move on to a Chevy 2028 Boopla. This boopla will be totally different than my trax, Cruz, cavalier!! If not.. I’m moving on to a Dodge caliber 2.0!

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 Před 8 měsíci +1

      It's sad how the poor want to buy such cheap cars but can't afford the maintenance when it comes around 😂

  • @chrispnw2547
    @chrispnw2547 Před 9 měsíci +27

    Context is everything and these guys are missing the big picture. For a family of four with a mortgage making $50K., this is an option few manufacturers offer.

    • @corrosivedevourer
      @corrosivedevourer Před 8 měsíci +5

      Thank you! That's the real world scenario

    • @brenthill3241
      @brenthill3241 Před 29 dny +2

      I find that most reviewers these days are kids more interested in the gadgets and race car handling than the practical aspects of a vehicle.
      Yes, context is important. How well the car will defrost the window when it's freezing outside. Ease of entry exit wearing winter clothes.
      Gauge visibility at night and a hundred other things.

  • @dont4450
    @dont4450 Před 10 měsíci +25

    Because of the coolant intrusion issue, I traded in my 2019 ford escape 1.5L for the Trax. To be honest, im very happy with it.

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah....Ford messed up big time on that....they actually corrected it in late 2019 but most "2019" models were manufactured in 2018...like most cars are...prior year manufacturing..

    • @cormaro1376
      @cormaro1376 Před 8 měsíci

      Couldn't get away from trash that's sad lol

    • @corrosivedevourer
      @corrosivedevourer Před 8 měsíci

      Are you having the power windows not working on the Trax?

    • @warphace
      @warphace Před 5 měsíci +1

      Prepare yourself to service the wet timing belt on the trax engine.

    • @s99614
      @s99614 Před 4 měsíci

      You should have gotten the S trim on that Escape with the vastly more reliable 2.5L non turbo engine.

  • @hereigoagain5050
    @hereigoagain5050 Před 10 měsíci +27

    Congrats to GM for making the Trax. I hope they can address the issues that the panel mentions in the near future. Not a bad looking small UTE.

  • @henryd1981
    @henryd1981 Před 10 měsíci +20

    For those that complain about this not having AWD, Chevy offering this as a value proposition alongside the Trailblazer that has available AWD is no different than what Hyundai is doing by offering the FWD only Venue alongside the Kona. I think they also forgot to mention that the Trailblazer has more cargo room than the Trax as another difference between the two.

    • @scrambler69-xk3kv
      @scrambler69-xk3kv Před 8 měsíci +5

      The money you save vs awd allows you to purchase true winter tires which will have a huge impact on winter whether traction. Trust me they make a huge difference, you will go in the snow, but don't forget you have to stop and go around turns and there as well they make a huge difference. I wish more people would try them and spread the word. We would all be better off as a result.

    • @corrosivedevourer
      @corrosivedevourer Před 5 měsíci

      @@scrambler69-xk3kv yes 4 wheel drive doesn't mean 4 wheel stop in the snow and ice

    • @s99614
      @s99614 Před 4 měsíci +2

      4WD is a maintenance hassle and lowers your MPG.

  • @samuraiharris5980
    @samuraiharris5980 Před 9 měsíci +13

    i own a 2024 Trax 2RS... have owned it for since May 3, 2023... the transmission discord that was discussed in this piece does kind of disappear at around the 2000 mile mark. Fuel economy hovers around 32-38mpg and I run premium fuel in mine (93 octane) as it is not only turbocharged, but direct injection. After 5800 miles here in the Adirondacks of New York and our superduper swell roads, the car still does not rattle or shake. I am, however, having trouble with the window switch for the left rear window. Dealer is addressing at the time of this posting. Other than that, I genuinely love this car and feel that it would've been a homerun with a manual transmission option. The car drives far sportier than it's market segment, especially on the 19" wheels and wide tires GM put at all four corners. The suspension issue that was discussed in the video I have never experienced. The car is super planted even on long sweeping on ramps. With long trips, i found that the lower seat cushion could've been a smidge longer, but that could just be me. I am 6ft 250lbs. Anyways...

    • @losteyesight
      @losteyesight Před 9 měsíci +1

      Are you having the Android Auto/Apple Carplay issues they mentioned? Can you connect it with wire if necessary?

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      That 93 octane gas is a TOTAL waste of money! That premium gas will DO NOTHING to help prevent carbon build up on the back of the intake valves! The better thing to do is use the LOWEST VOLATILITY oil to minimize the amount of crank case oil vapor the gets sucked past the intake valves. The best oil you can buy for a GDI engine is Pennzoil "ultra platinum" full synthetic (and no I don't sell the oil). I got this information from watching "Project Farm" YT channel. He tested ALL the leading oil, including Amsoil, and found that the Penzoil was BEST for DGI engines! Happy motoring in your new Trax!

    • @jacquesdesbecquets1106
      @jacquesdesbecquets1106 Před měsícem

      Bonsoir from Canada! This is the closest in years to a station wagon. I second that idea of a manual transmission. I want to stay away from the automatics as long as I can. Not that I drive fast: I just like shifting gears. Heck, I learned to drive on a Citroën DS! (Four-speed on the column, like the old trucks, but so refined in many other ways...)

  • @exionem
    @exionem Před 10 měsíci +48

    Million dollar question: How long will the tiny 1.2 three cylinder engine last ?

    • @crow_2k11beatsbydre8
      @crow_2k11beatsbydre8 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Nothing is forever and even Toyotas, Hondas engines will cease operation. Oil changes at 5k miles and heavy foot driving should be limited and 200.000 miles or more can be reached.......

    • @Mr21scott
      @Mr21scott Před 10 měsíci +10

      It's made by GM. How long do you think it will last? (And I don't care about your cousin's neighbor's sister-in-law's boss's son who drove a Chevy for a trillion miles). What difference does it make anyway when the rest of the car is going to fall apart way before the engine?

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q Před 10 měsíci +7

      It will last 200-300k miles if synthetic oil is used and it’s changed every 10k-15k miles.

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Sure hope it's better than Ford's 1.0 Ecoboost. Many of those couldn't even make it to 100k.

    • @LeviTate2000
      @LeviTate2000 Před 10 měsíci +6

      About 30001 miles.

  • @cleoendara8943
    @cleoendara8943 Před 10 měsíci +15

    I like this group of reviewers. I would watch more of them.

  • @xltoffroadbear
    @xltoffroadbear Před 10 měsíci +21

    I just bought an RS2 Trax, it's going to be a perfect commuter for me. I test drove it on the SswMillRiverParkway a twisting up/down road, it was fine. This is a great value, enough tech to keep you from feeling entry level. Some of us can't afford to pay $40k , so this should scare Ford and Stelantis.

    • @Jan96106
      @Jan96106 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Yes, I agree. I purchased a Nissan Kicks SV for the price and the feature and availability. I didn't know about the Trax then. Toyota vehicles are way overpriced these days.

    • @AshBoogie24
      @AshBoogie24 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I agree with inflation this is affordable for the majority of us. I’m not trying to impress people and I want to save my money down the line .

    • @juliegill9322
      @juliegill9322 Před 5 měsíci +1

      How much?

  • @intochill
    @intochill Před 10 měsíci +9

    FYI there’s many car upholstery specialists that can replace the hard foam with something softer for cheeeep.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      So, what do you consider "cheeep"?

  • @JETPILOTU
    @JETPILOTU Před 6 dny

    Just bought a silver-grey Trax Active and I love this car. 3 cylinder coupled with a 6 speed shift is no issue for me

  • @levon3852
    @levon3852 Před 7 měsíci

    Hi! How about going up to the Hill? I am leaving in mountain side. Not sure if enough power with passengers on the back

  • @coyleatkinson
    @coyleatkinson Před 10 měsíci +11

    we have owned a 2RS Trax for 5 weeks now and im 6feet and she is 5 feet 3 and we are very comfortable with it ours has the digital dash 19 inch wheels and rides well. we traded a 23 Bolt in for this car

    • @Mo_25.8
      @Mo_25.8 Před 10 měsíci

      What colour did you get? 😅 I have the sterling gray and harvest bronze options at my dealership

    • @mattnorman5241
      @mattnorman5241 Před 10 měsíci

      😂😂😂😂 poor

    • @imdone1965
      @imdone1965 Před 8 měsíci

      Gotta have that digital dash...
      Fun till it goes out...
      Good luck long term.

  • @mdavid1955
    @mdavid1955 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Small turbo engines being required to do the work of larger engine will wear out faster.

    • @user-tb7rn1il3q
      @user-tb7rn1il3q Před 10 měsíci +3

      That is totally untrue. The turbo engines are built almost like a diesel. They actually outlast their naturally aspirated counterparts.

    • @joeyt6089
      @joeyt6089 Před 10 měsíci +1

      In general yes but this can be mitigated by being overbuilt. The question is did GM do that.

    • @nodak81
      @nodak81 Před 9 měsíci +6

      ​@@user-tb7rn1il3q lol, no. The whole reason a diesel adds thousands to the price of a vehicle is because it's built like a diesel. These crappy little turbo engines are cheap and cheap means they aren't anywhere near as robust as a diesel.

    • @imdone1965
      @imdone1965 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@user-tb7rn1il3q sure buddy....
      It's a lawnmower engine..

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      You are CORRECT! I would be looking to trade at the 100K mark!

  • @linhunnicutt6556
    @linhunnicutt6556 Před 10 měsíci +16

    I think for the money this would make a good city car.

    • @crow_2k11beatsbydre8
      @crow_2k11beatsbydre8 Před 10 měsíci +2

      100% agree, city vehicle and less highway driving. Only a 6 speed tranny.......

    • @LeviTate2000
      @LeviTate2000 Před 10 měsíci

      Nope. The mpg is really sub par considering.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      For the city, excellent, but for LONG distance HIGH SPEED running, not so much!

  • @Buc_Stops_Here
    @Buc_Stops_Here Před 10 měsíci +17

    It is only offered with FWD to keep the price down, to give it more interior room than the Blazer with a smaller size, and using older tech like a 6 speed automatic. Overall an interesting car and depending on sales it could be a winner (along with the Buick Envista which is its twin). My question to CR is what other car at this price is this good? Is the Nissan Kicks a better car or worse? I think they rank it lower. So I understand the complaints, but the price point makes it hard to hate this car.

    • @nodak81
      @nodak81 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I wouldn't even think about any Nissan with a CVT. Nothing but problems, especially in the low-end models like the Versa, Sentra and presumably the Kicks as well.

    • @craig5042
      @craig5042 Před 9 měsíci

      Well said.

    • @its.me_mo-
      @its.me_mo- Před 8 měsíci

      @@nodak81 The Altima has a CVT, and it's still very reliable, same with the Rogue and the Murano, atleast according to CR

    • @Jan96106
      @Jan96106 Před 8 měsíci

      I have a Kicks. Thus far it is a pleasure to drive. No problems and loads of features for a reasonable price. The zero gravity seats are very comfortable. Plus, I can get 43.8 MPG on the expressway.

    • @artimusbill
      @artimusbill Před 7 měsíci +2

      I like the idea of the Trax but would prefer a normally aspirated 4 cylinder over the turbo 3..

  • @ernestv10
    @ernestv10 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Not sure whay you guys are talking about... perhaps a different car... I have an Activ and I have zero problems... None of the problems you mention. The pickup is zippy. The screens all work. Car is very comfortable. I didn't want to pay $10,000 more for a comfortable arm rest...

  • @pawbb6106
    @pawbb6106 Před 6 měsíci +3

    folks, this is a family car, no a race car, keep in mind that before said something else. It is a basic car ... with a ton of features .... if you want luxury, power etc etc ..get a Lexus, BMW ... o something else ..!!! Chevy made a lot with this great new SUV ...!!!

  • @carlchapin8352
    @carlchapin8352 Před 2 měsíci

    For the shifting problems use the manual shift button on the shifter knob. You can make the car shift when you want, upshift, downshift.

  • @johnaquino5055
    @johnaquino5055 Před 6 měsíci +4

    what do expect for a 24k car--good basic transportation

  • @Paul-cx4gm
    @Paul-cx4gm Před 10 měsíci +6

    It looks like they have a winner here in spite of a few shortcomings.😀

  • @xanth987
    @xanth987 Před 5 měsíci

    this will be interesting i just got my hands on one today. haven’t had a chance yet to let it run wild from the dealership to home. lots of stuff i need to learn

  • @tutwilson6590
    @tutwilson6590 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Green interior trim? Looks like yellow. Does the video present differently?

  • @7728abbott
    @7728abbott Před 5 měsíci

    Very intelligent conversation. Enjoyed it very much.

  • @randyallen9237
    @randyallen9237 Před 8 měsíci

    My 2019 Ford Escape had the same abrump turbo bump, and also had bad marriage with transmission. In cold weather, it was a lump. Couldn't get beyond 30 without turbo bump to overcome slowness.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      That is why CR has the 2018 thru 2021 Escape on their "WORST used cars to buy"! Sorry about the bad news!

  • @ritardstrength5169
    @ritardstrength5169 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I’m happy with my Corolla sedan, but as a male buyer I’m pleasantly surprised with the relatively butch profile of the Trax. Compared to the Kona or Corolla Cross it’s handsome.

  • @dyana9673
    @dyana9673 Před 3 měsíci

    I had low expectations also.
    I drove one,I bought one, and I love it.

  • @stevegrimes5005
    @stevegrimes5005 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I own a 2RS in Fountain Blue. I love this car!!

  • @J-ZIM
    @J-ZIM Před 3 dny

    agree with the hard plastic door armrests...why did they skimp there???

  • @josephpanozzo4815
    @josephpanozzo4815 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Thank you for sharing your viewpoints. I want to like this vehicle, but the additional dealer markups on the price stopped me from buying.

    • @flyguy1889
      @flyguy1889 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I went very far to avoid dealer makeup and still saved money

  • @seannartiff8682
    @seannartiff8682 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I just bought a fully loaded Trax Activ and it's a great crossover - upgraded from a 2012 Equinox LTZ. Was looking at Blazer EV but current interest rates are terrible, even with great credit. Honestly, the fully loaded tech for 27k is a steal. This beats my old Equinox in every way, besides not having a rear cup holder and a part shortage which strangely resulted in the backup camera not giving warnings/beeps so try to snag one that does have rear park assist. Adaptive cruise control is amazing as is wireless android auto. In my phone settings I changed Android Auto to connect automatically and I've had 0 problems with connectivity. I also highly recommend the interior protection package, the mats fit snug and will protect your rugs in muddy climates.

  • @malloy0428
    @malloy0428 Před 2 měsíci

    I have the base model. I like how it looks and it's affordable. I took it on a long trip and was impressed by the gas mileage. It has been having some technical gitches though, as well as rough gear shifts in stop and go traffic. Also, not sure if mine actually has emergency breaking. It has the alert system though.

  • @petercollingwood522

    I drive a 2021 Spark, which is surprisingly good for what it is. I've used it for three long trips including recently from Phoenix to Los Angeles where it did great. (48mpg at one point and even saw three digit speed briefly) Consequently I don't care one bit about "driving dynamics" and pretending I"m a racing driver on the Nurburg Ring. The only things that matter when you are no longer 12 years old are comfort, reliability and can you afford it. The dealership has been pestering me constantly to "upgrade" to one of these ever since they came out. There are many things about it I like. I don't care about lack of AWD. AWD is a complete waste of money unless you live in Canada, Upstate, New York, Vermont, Alaska, etc where snow and ice are a real issue. Other than that it's just an expensive marketing gimmick. I note that this car seems to have the same issue my Spark has with wireless connectivity. I'm also Android and bluetooth will not maintain connectivity with the car. I have to re-connect almost every time I start the vehicle and it will sometimes disconnect while driving. Looks like it might be a GM thing. We have a Ford van at work which has never lost connection to my phone since the got it a year ago so It's a vehicle thing, not my phone. So I guess I'd be plugging in with the cable as well. The only thing that would really concern me about this vehicle is the inadequately sized engine utilizing a Turbo to try and compensate along with the wet timing belt. That alone makes me think of this vehicle as something you lease and dump before the warranty is up rather than own long term. i guess time will tell.

  • @psmh4
    @psmh4 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What about the drive belt? Is this wet belt technology any good?

    • @dragon2knight
      @dragon2knight Před měsícem +2

      No. Ford has regretted ever doing it themselves. GM's VERY optomistic 150,000 mile "check" on it, not replacement, check, is just stupid. This is the worst part of the engine, period.

  • @jeffreysplace6926
    @jeffreysplace6926 Před 5 měsíci

    I don’t how the radio controls are on the back of the steering wheel instead of being on the front of the steering wheel like other cars have it

  • @crow_2k11beatsbydre8
    @crow_2k11beatsbydre8 Před 10 měsíci +10

    If the 1.2L 3 Cylinder turbo was brand new i personally would pass, but the trailblazer from Chevy been using this engine since 2020 and no recalls or engine failures........

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum Před 9 měsíci

      I'm in a 2024 Trax group. Someone reported engine failure at 700 miles. It was probably just a lemon. It happens. I'm still nervous about the reliability of this vehicle though. GM Korea has a terrible reliability track record. They make more terrible engines than good engines.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      AND............SUPER reliability!

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Před 8 měsíci

      @@palebeachbum Yeah...the American GM 3.6 engine is now super reliable ironically....

    • @carlchapin8352
      @carlchapin8352 Před 2 měsíci +1

      South Korea doesn't make the 1.2 engine, it's made in Mexico.

  • @Jan96106
    @Jan96106 Před 8 měsíci

    As for the brown color: my Chevy Malibu was the color of a UPS truck. But it lasted 17 years and was still going strong. My father would not allow me to drive it anymore because he said the floor was too rusted. I think it would have been okay and I could have gotten more years out of it.

  • @Tully3674
    @Tully3674 Před 10 měsíci +5

    With the Trax, GM has re-focused the purpose (existence) of Chevrolet: Provide a value, entry level vehicle (could be a first-time car buyer), who will eventually move to a Buick, then a Cadillac. In the late 60s after my parents married, their first car was a Bel Air. A few years later they bought a 77 Olds Cutlass, then a 1984 Buick Riviera, (mom got a 1990 Reatta) and then a 1994 de Ville. They (and many others) wouldn't have stayed in the GM family if their familiarity with the brand didn't start at the value purchase of a Chevrolet.

    • @chili-rye123
      @chili-rye123 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yeah but now you can get any type of Toyota and then jump the Lexus. Sedans or SUVs. GM doesn’t have small cars or a depth of hybrids.

    • @scrungycat407
      @scrungycat407 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@chili-rye123 The one thing every Toyota fanboy ignores is that not everybody wants a Toyota.

    • @GoogleDoesEvil
      @GoogleDoesEvil Před 4 měsíci

      @@chili-rye123 Americans don't want small cars.

    • @GoogleDoesEvil
      @GoogleDoesEvil Před 4 měsíci

      I was a Honda guy for a while, but I had to get a diesel pickup to pull my 10,000lb trailer. I got an '04 Duramax. I really liked it, especially with how much easier it is to service it. I think GM investing in their trucks is key to getting people to buy their other vehicles.

  • @toronado455
    @toronado455 Před 10 měsíci +2

    They say Trailblazer is smaller than Trax, but it is considerably taller at 67" vs 61" for the Trax. In other dimensions it's smaller.

    • @CRVgarage
      @CRVgarage Před 10 měsíci

      Trailblazer is 64" tall.

  • @yahtzeejimbob
    @yahtzeejimbob Před 9 měsíci +1

    a few new Trax owners have complained that the A/C does not come on during remote start operation.
    Did you notice on your testing?

    • @s99614
      @s99614 Před 4 měsíci

      In January in New Jersey they aren't going to test that.

  • @J-ZIM
    @J-ZIM Před 3 dny

    I might get it in this brown color...love it!!

  • @caryrodda
    @caryrodda Před 10 měsíci +1

    What, no viewer questions? Bummer. That’s a segment I always enjoy.

  • @CRVgarage
    @CRVgarage Před 10 měsíci +1

    Excellent vehicle. Really my only complaint is the lack of rear center armrest.

    • @nodak81
      @nodak81 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I honestly can't think of anything less important. lol

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      @@nodak81 Of all the things to complain about. Really? LMAO!

    • @s99614
      @s99614 Před 4 měsíci

      Nobody needs a rear center armrest.

  • @alternatecapacity
    @alternatecapacity Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love the Trax myself.

  • @methanial73
    @methanial73 Před 4 měsíci

    I have the older 2018 Trax. That year they have awd and the 6 speed. The 6 speed isn't a CVT with was a selling point for me. Not a whole lot of power, but moves ok. I wouldn't buy a newer one because no AWD. I want awd if it's a crossover.

  • @thetalkingboard
    @thetalkingboard Před 9 měsíci +1

    Lots of questions about the engine and reliability. It's never mentioned here, but this is not a GM design, it originally was designed by PSA and has been around for almost a decade. Biggest concern is the timing belt in oil and your decision to use the correct oil and adhere to frequent OCIs.

    • @imdone1965
      @imdone1965 Před 8 měsíci

      And it's a turbo...

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      MY biggest concern would be THE TURBO nearing 100Kmiles. A BIG chunk of change to replace!

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Před 8 měsíci

      I heard it is essentially a rebadge Daewoo....under GM ownership....

  • @jackcycling4403
    @jackcycling4403 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I know you are questioning the 6 speed transmission but it's way better than a CVT and will probably be more reliable. I'm glad GM decided to offer those.

  • @michaelsheedy
    @michaelsheedy Před 2 měsíci

    All I3 turbo motors are having problems including many I4 turbos. Coolant/oil intrusion and turbo failures after 60,000 miles or so. This includes Honda with the CRV.

  • @Centurio-LegioX-Equestris
    @Centurio-LegioX-Equestris Před 9 měsíci

    Chevrolet should own this $20k to $30k segment. They should bring out another option within this price segment. They can import or do CKD with foreign models too.

  • @kcrlaterbye
    @kcrlaterbye Před 28 dny

    I have ordered a 2025 2RS. Should be here in three months.

  • @goranyordanoff3919
    @goranyordanoff3919 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Just put a deposit on a 2RS Cacti Green. The color is either going to be jaw-dropping or stomach turning. Saw an orange exterior 2RS Trax and it was really impressive looking. Hoping the Cacti Green is as cool as I think it will be. The fact Chevy is offering that color on the 2024 Corvetter C8 is reassuring, haha

  • @jeffrey3498
    @jeffrey3498 Před 20 dny

    AWD helps handling on dry roads too.

  • @nlpnt
    @nlpnt Před 10 měsíci +3

    It's a shame everything has to be an "SUV", the Trax looks good and would look even better if it sat 2-3" lower still with less of an airgap between the tires and fenderwells. But then it would be a wagon and thus, salesproof.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      YUP! We "AMERICANS" LOVE SUVs...........FULL STOP!

  • @stevenweiss2148
    @stevenweiss2148 Před 10 měsíci +4

    How long is the warrenty on this tiny 1.2 L turbo ? Is it 100k miles. IF not I would not feel comfortable with this

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci +1

      5years/60kmi for the power train, 3yrs/ 36kmi for bumper to bumper..

  • @rudfil
    @rudfil Před 8 měsíci +5

    The elephant in the room to me is that 1.2 litre. I just wished GM had an optional na 2.0 or 2.5 litre engine for more reliability.

    • @StreetPreacherr
      @StreetPreacherr Před 8 měsíci +2

      But what makes you sure it won't be reliable? sub 2.0 liter turbo engines have been fairly common in Europe for years... And manufacturers simulate EVERYTHING, so they should have a good idea about reliability... It also makes 162 lb-ft of TORQUE thanks to the turbo, which is 30 lb-ft more than you get on a base 2.0L 4 cyl Mazda 3!

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 Před 10 měsíci +4

    CR, Value proposition? Please explain how a Chevy made in South Korea differentiates itself from a Daewoo? 😂

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      One is named "Daewoo", the other is "GM KOREA"! Does that answer your question?

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Před 8 měsíci

      GM NOW OWNS DAEWOO....SINCE 2002....

  • @TheAwareHuman
    @TheAwareHuman Před 10 měsíci

    Track or Bronco Sport?

  • @glennyork6800
    @glennyork6800 Před 8 měsíci +1

    No one south of Maxson Dixson line needs 4wd, heated seats & steering wheel,. plus wld be A/C seats

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      They DO, if they want to do some "off roading"!

  • @buckshot4428
    @buckshot4428 Před 9 měsíci

    Does this engine have a timing chain or belt?

  • @jacobyo99
    @jacobyo99 Před 10 měsíci +6

    This will sell very well, and it seems like it already is

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      Hard to beat it at that price point!

  • @notconvincedgranny6573
    @notconvincedgranny6573 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Did you say three cylinder?

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah! I am already waiting for a TWO CYLINDER version (with cylinder de-activation), probably will be made by Briggs &Scrap-um. LOL

  • @Howrider65
    @Howrider65 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I want to see it with 195,000 miles on it like my Toyota.

  • @jacobyo99
    @jacobyo99 Před 10 měsíci

    Base model Kona has plastic door armrests also, not that it’s acceptable

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      The Kona is a Hyundai! With all the recalls that had/has, I wouldn't touch that "Korean Jukebox" with a ten foot pole! LOL

  • @gene978
    @gene978 Před 10 měsíci +4

    only CR picks apart a Very Affordable car that is probably a Software update in the throttle mapping. I had to stop watching 1/3rd in.

    • @davidm5707
      @davidm5707 Před 10 měsíci +2

      They were actually very complimentary of it, if you'd watched further. Every car has shortcomings, even the luxury brands they've been addicted to for a while.

  • @ilovetotri23
    @ilovetotri23 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I do use CR when making decisions on purchases. I have never watched a CR video like this before. I found it very interesting. As for the Trax, almost anyone who pays attention the statistics already knows how reliable it will be. Finally, the fuel economy numbers listed on the Chevy website would make this a hard pass! 30mpg? That is an awful number given the drive train. I remember when the cheapest cars had the best mpg.

    • @Buc_Stops_Here
      @Buc_Stops_Here Před 10 měsíci +2

      Because to make it among the cheapest cars on the road, it uses old tech (6 speed auto) with new less expensive tech (3 cylinder engine). You don't want that, spend an additional $5000 and buy a gas engine Toyota Corolla. Better gas mileage, better tech. Or spend $8000 more and get the Corolla Hybrid.

    • @kolt9051
      @kolt9051 Před 10 měsíci

      I've been watching the podcast off and on for the past few years, the team at CR is great. Always entertaining, almost guaranteed to laugh.

    • @dave1956
      @dave1956 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Unfortunately, CR has adapted to the times. What these people look for in a car is not at all what I look for. CR used to be very impartial and you would almost think that they hated cars. Not everyone can or want to buy a $100,000 vehicle.

    • @dave1956
      @dave1956 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I remember when the Geo Metro was rated at 58mpg highway. You’d think that with the improvements in technology even with increases in weight, numbers like this would still be possible. The Metro had old fashioned carburetor.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci +1

      Reliability is still an unknown. The "old" Trax was MUCH above average in reliability, according to CR! I trust CR's data. Having recently purchased a USED 2020 Blazer 2LT V6 with 52000miles on the clock. I have owned it for only 7mo, had absolutely ZERO issues! And ZERO recalls. I purchased it because it already on CR's list of "The Most Reliable Used Cars" list and I wasn't disappointed. Thanks CR!!!

  • @mfbikle
    @mfbikle Před 10 měsíci +6

    Not going to lie, but the interior looks way better than 23’ Lexus NX350H..

    • @KennyboyGM
      @KennyboyGM Před 10 měsíci +1

      That Lexus is overpriced by 10k

  • @foxlake6750
    @foxlake6750 Před 10 měsíci

    Didn’t they have major issues with the engine a few years ago ? Was that corrected ?

    • @nodak81
      @nodak81 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I could be wrong but I think the 1.2 and 1.3 have only been used since 2020. If you mean the 1.4 four-cylinder, that engine is dead and it was totally different. I'd be more worried about the transmission. It has a mediocre history.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci +1

      The "23 Trax was as reliable as ANY Toyota or Honda or Mazda!

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TheOzthewiz Hard to believe.

  • @scrambler69-xk3kv
    @scrambler69-xk3kv Před 8 měsíci +2

    Hey Consumer Reports, one segment you always forget is Seniors. Just once I wish you would get their thoughts. Yes, young people make up the majority of sales, but dammit get our thoughts once in a while. Think about features we would finf important. Same goes to the manufactures. they should take some things important to us under advisement.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      Speaking as an "elderly" person of (80), the MOST IMPORTANT to me is HORSEPOWER and the "NEED FOR SPEED". I was weaned on HIGH PERFORMANCE Mustangs in the '60s, I will be driving less, but enjoying it more until I am below ground!

  • @slash11lipo
    @slash11lipo Před 7 měsíci

    You guy's must be iphone users. I haven't experienced any connectivity issues with my Android phone and who drives with their left arm resting on the door car? I'm on my 41st vehicle and never have and it's not hard plastic, at least on the 2RS. I haven't experienced any of the handling or ride issues on my 2RS that you guy's mentioned. As far as the transmission goes would I like an 8 or 9 speed, of course, but it would be more expensive. I bought this as an in between vehicle coming from a 2023 Audi S3 and I have to admit I'm blown away with this Trax and it's abundant features and if it had the 2.0t and an 8 speed I would probably keep it for awhile.
    I also bought my daughter the ACTIV and she loves it.

  • @dereksans9562
    @dereksans9562 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I like the design but I'm really against turbo engines. I wish they used a na 2 liter engine.

  • @horsepowerandtalk1033
    @horsepowerandtalk1033 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Saying "heated seats and steering wheel" means they are both heated.

  • @rosscaruana355
    @rosscaruana355 Před 10 měsíci +9

    3 cylinder is the deal breaker for me 😞

    • @nodak81
      @nodak81 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Pretty soon that's all that's going to be available. After that, just boring EV cars.

  • @lostncal
    @lostncal Před 10 měsíci +13

    CR is too critical... I think its so much car for the dollar; I cant think of a better made car for this money. The mentioned connectivity may not be the fault of the car but the phone itself but we tend to blame the car tech. In terms of material feel or percieved quality, it is no worse than any other brand in this price class. Even BMWs have hard plastics in their vehicles at 2x. 3x the price. I think their is some bias in the comments here.

    • @timgt5
      @timgt5 Před 10 měsíci

      Yet the Mazda CX30-has a very high-quality interior for not much more money and 50 more standard HP. The Trax is very nicely styled and does pack a lot of features per dollar, marketing the same way Hyundai/Kia used to do.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      CR does not have a bias! They are simply informing you of shortcomings. Those HARD PLASTIC arm rests would bother ME especially on long drives!

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Před 8 měsíci +1

      CR has ALWAYS been biased against ALL American Manufacturers....even when they don't deserve it....just broadbrushing negative statements even when new engines / transmissions are in play..

  • @dont4450
    @dont4450 Před 8 měsíci

    VERY HAPPY WITH MY 1RS SO FAR. MY ONLY GRIPE IS THE INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM. MY PHONE SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED IMMEDIATELY UPON STARTING THE CAR WHICH SONETIMES IT DOES. BUT WITHIN 2 MINUTES, IT DISCONNECTS MY PHONE AND YOU MUST MANUALLY GO INTO THE INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM AND START IT AGAIN. ALSO, I ONLY GET MY SMS MESSAGES WHEN MY SCREEN IS IN THE NAVIGATION MODE. IT WILL NOT SHOW MESSAGES WHEN IN RADIO SCREEN. THAT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT

  • @chief1960
    @chief1960 Před 8 měsíci +1

    3cly tubo 40,000 turbo blows up instant depreciation and 50% ;loss two years.UAW Jewel.

  • @nlpnt
    @nlpnt Před 10 měsíci

    The Trax looks sleeker and more sophisticated than the Trailblazer whose thick C pillars and total lack of quarter windows already looks dated.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      I would take it simply for the fact that it is VERY RELIABLE!

    • @chuckycheese84
      @chuckycheese84 Před 2 měsíci

      It would be nice if the side vent windows made a comeback

  • @joet.2078
    @joet.2078 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Nice car, wish it was AWD and had more power. I could buy one of these for less than one bitcoin. 😅

  • @TalismanPHX
    @TalismanPHX Před 10 měsíci

    It's decent for what amounts to a South Korean city car built by Daewoo (aka GM Korea)

    • @davidm5707
      @davidm5707 Před 10 měsíci

      No wonder it's such a value proposition.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      @@davidm5707None of GM's RECENT small cars are AMERICAN, even the Sonic was a KOREAN CAR (ASSEMBLED IN MICHIGAN)!

  • @TealSide
    @TealSide Před 10 měsíci

    Hi I'm Mike Monticello, I'm Mike Quincy and I'm Mike Crossen.

  • @RedEyeC
    @RedEyeC Před 9 měsíci +3

    Ugh... did you say "stop / start" system?? That just blew it for me. I thought these auto makers had all decided "stop/start" was a stupid, stupid invention?

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      NO! But, the "cylinder de-activation" for GM's V8s was a NIGHTMARE!

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 Před 3 měsíci

      You can disable the start/stop every time you start the car.

  • @parler8698
    @parler8698 Před 6 měsíci +1

    AWD is not necessary in much of the country.

  • @CaesarDarias
    @CaesarDarias Před 10 měsíci +10

    A suggestion: In your full online review, please start to include where the vehicle is assembled, as well as the manufacturing location of the engine, transmission and any other major parts you deem appropriate. Thank you.

    • @chili-rye123
      @chili-rye123 Před 10 měsíci +6

      why does this matter? all that matters is that the car is reliable, efficient, and runs well.

    • @CaesarDarias
      @CaesarDarias Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@chili-rye123 Why ask a question that you know the answer to? If you don’t care, then don’t read it. Don’t look it up. And finally, why does it seem to bother you that it’s important information for many people?

    • @kolt9051
      @kolt9051 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@CaesarDarias uh, okay.... I am curious WHY this matters to you (or "many people"). I just want to understand what factors you may be considering that I should too, is all.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      GM KOREA! There, satisfied now?

  • @pawbb6106
    @pawbb6106 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Trax is so awesome and affordable ... for me it is a sedan with a suv look ..... !!!!! so beautiful .... !!!

  • @BTC909
    @BTC909 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Wait for a 2025.

  • @jeffthevideoguy23
    @jeffthevideoguy23 Před 10 měsíci

    So every trim level has other packages in it? Wtf?

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      That's the way car buying works in today's world. It's not like it was back in the "dark ages" where you could check off what size tires you wanted or cigarette lighter delete or 6cyl or V8 engine, etc.

  • @Hazdazos
    @Hazdazos Před 10 měsíci +13

    If this car had a Japanese, Korean or European logo on it, you guys would be gushing over everything about it. The fact that this comes from an American brand, you guys have to be overly critical. I'm totally fine with reviewers actually reviewing cars objectively, but there is a concerning trend over the years from car journalists to give foreign brands a free-pass on issues, while being absurdly nitpicky with American cars.

    • @crow_2k11beatsbydre8
      @crow_2k11beatsbydre8 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Hondas and Toyotas have issues that why those dealerships have Service Department and trust me they work on newer models issues.......

    • @jrs9264
      @jrs9264 Před 10 měsíci

      it's not american,! both trax and trailblazer are rebadged Daewoo, from south korea. same for the two Buick versions......🤨🙄😳💯💥

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      It's KOREAN built by GM KOREA! AND, CR is not a "car journalist" publication! CR gets paid by subscribers!

  • @jeffreysplace6926
    @jeffreysplace6926 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I bought the crimson model lt with the package and love it

  • @kyracash3384
    @kyracash3384 Před 7 měsíci

    I like the honesty. After my Kia blew up and prior to that my fusion repairs cost me thousands I’m thankful to buy an affordable Toyota Corolla

  • @waryjot007
    @waryjot007 Před 7 měsíci

    those two yong man saing wrong description of that car. this car is realy good!!! i used to drive european, asian, american cars. This is masterpiece for the price. Turbocharged 3 cyl 1.2l plus dashboard like from space x dragon lol. And i rader have nice durable plastic than fake wood vinyl. Its quiet! very nice dont hear engine when you drive. For small car likethat front weheel drive is perfect choice for safety as well. You only need to buy two winter tires in stead of four if you want. Thats what america needs simple, beautiful in both mechanical and visual design made in usa cheap cars. Perfect cant go wrong

  • @bobgrenon1890
    @bobgrenon1890 Před 10 měsíci +2

    CR, your review is spot on. I have a '23 Equinox with the same 6 speed. It has the exact same hesitation issues you describe, kinda annoying. It also has wireless car play/Android Auto that has the same hiccups, also very annoying.

  • @matthewhart5824
    @matthewhart5824 Před 8 měsíci

    I have the 1RS. Had 5 miles on it when i got it. Drove it cross country, wasn’t bad though the infotainment system did kind of give me issues using car play even plugged in. Basically maps froze and was very pixelated, the audio was crackling in the speakers. Could’ve been a poor reception area, this was somewhere on a back road in Mississippi or Alabama. Happened again the other day wirelessly and i assumed it was because the heat outside in the 90’s and sitting in the sun most the day with no shade. Bought a sun shade for it, but it didn’t fit. The windshield and dash are oddly shaped for it. Other than that I don’t have any issues with it, it’s getting me from point A to point B.

    • @ericbryant796
      @ericbryant796 Před 8 měsíci

      The 1RS is the best value trim...and I prefer the real gauges to the 8" display that looks to be rather dimly lit.

    • @juliegill9322
      @juliegill9322 Před 5 měsíci

      How much?

  • @rickyarmstrong9267
    @rickyarmstrong9267 Před 8 měsíci

    Headed sits not needed were i live more bells and buttons you have more trouble you will have when car gets older

  • @trspotr
    @trspotr Před 7 měsíci

    Is this built in Korea or China like Buick cousins?

  • @WSOJ3
    @WSOJ3 Před 9 měsíci

    And they have once again cheaped out on the rear center headrest, which is a safety feature against whiplash injuries.

  • @michaelgarden6554
    @michaelgarden6554 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Nice looking vehicle. Very affordable compared to most crossovers. Underpowered for my needs. I live in a very hilly area, it might struggle climbing. There are more good things than bad with this chevy. I hope next year they have an engine option

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      That is why I chose a USED 2020 Blazer (the BIG Daddy) AWD, V6 2LT. With 308HP in "the power barn", this thing will make your eyeballs bleed! I am retired and "am driving less, but enjoying it more"...NEED FOR SPEED, don't care about fuel mileage. Another benefit of having that V6, I can tow 4500lbs (and ZOOM up hills) WITHOUT A turbo!

  • @TheDodgefan9
    @TheDodgefan9 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I recently bought a used 2018 Buick Regal Sportback. I could have gotten one of these for a few thousand more, but I wanted a car with decent power (the 2.0 turbo has 250hp), and a good ride (which is aided by an independent rear suspension). It has 54,000 miles, and I think it is still a better-quality vehicle than one of these cheaper new subcompacts, even though the tech is superior on newer models. This Trax did look really nice in person, so it is interesting to hear the feedback on its flaws.

    • @jacobyo99
      @jacobyo99 Před 10 měsíci

      I love those 18-20 Regal Sportbacks.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz Před 8 měsíci

      Chevrolet seems to be getting serious about improving reliability in their current models. As an example, the Traverse had a CLUSTERF**K of problems at one time, whereas the current Traverse has become very reliable, according to CR!

    • @barrya.6212
      @barrya.6212 Před 8 měsíci

      @@TheOzthewiz They finally worked out various bugs of the 3.6 V6 engine...it's now a very reliable engine which will make it to 200,000 and beyond without any internal work / repairs needed....