2024 Honda CR-V vs Mazda CX-5 vs Toyota RAV4 vs Subaru Forester Comparison / Big (Compact) Battle!
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Today is going to be a real treat if you enjoy/need to settle with sensible transportation. I'll show the ins and outs of the Toyota RAV4, Mazda CX-5, Subaru Forester and Honda CR-V to see if I can come with a consensus on how they stack up to one another and other competition like the Mitusbishi Outlander, Nissan Rogue, Hyundai Tucson and more!
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Honda CR-V Review
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Subaru Forester Review
• 2022 Subaru Forester /...
Mazda CX-5 Review
• 2022 Mazda CX-5 / A Lo...
Toyota RAV4 Review
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00:00 Introduction
01:01 Exterior
02:13 CR-V Interior
04:00 RAV4 Interior
05:26 Forester Interior
07:15 CX-5 Interior
09:18 RAV4 Drive
12:12 CX-5 Drive
15:32 CR-V Drive
18:21 Forester Drive
21:56 Reliability
23:03 Final Thoughts - Auta a dopravní prostředky
If you don’t need a hybrid, the Mazda CX5 is the must lux (quiet and lux interior) and has the best driving dynamics. And it has been out so long, it’s reliable.
Exactly, all the bugs have long been worked out on the CX5
Also made in Japan. I think that's a big plus.
@@Fleetwing1627cx five in my country is local assemble tho
@@boboiboy9350what country are u on?
Cx-5 seats are pretty bad for tall people. I wish I did not buy mine. Short trips are fine, it’s the long ones I hate.
We went with the cx5. Looks the best in my opinion and is a underrated gem. Also drives much better than the competitors and has great reliability. It’s been great so far.
I just have to say thank you so much for being one of the seemingly few who bothers to bring subaru into the comparison conversation
This is by far the very best comparison test I've seen. Thank you very much!
cx5 hands down fun and good driving dynamics... simple but lux inside
I really like this review and the wisdom displayed by the reviewer. This is a very knowledge and perceptive reviewer. Good job!
This video was very helpful. After visiting several dealers and trying out these SUVs, we settled on the Mazda CX5 preferred edition.
Huge effort there bro, crystal clear comparison. Already booked crv sport😊, waiting for delivery.
Nice job. Well-detailed and based on your reviews, you chose the logical leader.
Retired Honda tech of 30 years. I own a 2019 Forester and 2023 CX5 premium plus. When I went to buy new in 2019, CRV non turbo was base model with little safety features. Honda had always been a great company that built quality cars, but putting a turbo on that tiny 1.5 was a no for me. I never expect to buy any Honda with that engine. Lots of problems….oil dilution from fuel ( which seems to be addressed ) , head gasket problems due to design, fuel injector failures, etc. CX5 is a premium, sporty feel and has a tried and true engine ( I choose non turbo ) and has an auto trans. Forester has incredible view, great safety features, very versatile. I love both.
With your auto experience, I'm looking at cx5 and deciding between turbo & non turbo engines. With proper maintenance do you think the turbo and its additional power are a good idea, or keep it simple with non turbo? I'm planning on keeping this suv long term. TIA
I bought the non turbo. Less things to go wrong and I don’t need the turbo extra zoom zoom. If you have to have the turbo, at least Mazda does not throw a turbo on a tiny engine.
Thank you so much for your input. I'm in need of a car. I'm 64 and a widow.......so, I'm needing something as solid and reliable as possible.
I'm leaning towards a Subaru. I'll need to buy used, due to finances. I've seen A LOT of 2021 Forester lately. I'm wondering if there is some kind of issue with them.......or maybe leases were up at that time?
Do you have any input on which years would be the best to buy for a used Forester???
@carmenmarcinkiewicz7149 hey, I have way less experience than the guy above, but I can say that 21 and 22 are quite a bit more solid than 19 and 20. They overhauled design in 2019 and a whole host of new problems popped up when they did. By 21 they had them largely sorted out, 22 being slightly more refined. I own a 20- I would avoid if possible. It's a fantastic car but a couple pricey maintenance calls in the past year or two for me that have been addressed in later models.
@@OurLlamaThank you for the detailed info! I GREATLY APPRECIATE this valuable information!!!
Best comparison, I searching for a SUV from 4 these manufacturers and see your video.
Getting this comparison done must be a ton of work. Well done !
It really was the most time I’ve spent on a video in a long time, thanks for noticing!
@@RealistickOnly mistake that you made was that the mazda does in fact have fog lights. It’s had them since 2013.
@@alb0zfinest i think they got rid of them in 2022 (at least here in the united states)
I got the 2023 CX-5. It feels more expensive than it is. It's a great driving vehicle.
I just think Mazda is for a different market and shouldn’t be compared to these more economical brands..
@@christianbryant5617 I don't understand this comment. Where i live, Mazda vehicles are cheaper than any of the competitors.
@@alibabaschultz352 Mazdas can be cheaper but define cheap, right? Because for what the car shows it’s not “cheap” idk just a thought
Totally agree, we love our CX5 , feels and drives like a much more expensive vehicle
@@christianbryant5617maybe its cheapen out around something that you cant see. Who knows? My brother cx5 bought in 2015, now the rear suspension(and to certain extent, it starts rattling around the other tires too) got really loud noises when cruising at normal speed. And Mazda only said that its pretty normal for old car. Its only 8 years old vehicle though and its only been him and his wife most of the time. Only in recent years they have a baby and baby seat. Thats all. I hope its not happening to other users as well.
I went with a CX-5 just about two weeks ago.
It just looks and feels a whole class up from this competition.
I test drove the Mazda cx30 and cx5 and they very uncomfortable for ME. Height /weigth etc..in my humble opinion it’s not in another class. It’s another one of the many in that tier where a bunch of suvs are. It’s understandable that people want to defend / justify their purchase I guess. I bought a Subaru. Is it the best NO, but it checked all my boxes without breaking the bank. Is yours better? Good for you
@@powertools2375 Mazda is the best, but its problem is that it is narrow and does not fit tall people.
This is what I’ve been waiting for 😊
Excellent review. I watched and enjoyed the whole thing.
Its a very good review. Thank you!!
Just bought a 2024 CX 5 S-Preferred on 3/23 and love it. Eye-catching interior and is luxury enough for me. Got a decent, but not stellar deal I was happy to get in this market.
We love the Forester (2019 Ltd). Great seats, very airy, excellent handling and fast enough. The Eyesight system is probably second to none. If I want sporty driving I drive a GTI or WRX. None of these semi large boxes offer that. And bad uncomfortable seats (although relative) are always a dealbreaker. The Subarus front seats are A++.
And we don't have a dog.
Just leased a Forester Touring model. Love everything about it. Got a very competitive deal. Love the driving feel and amazing seats. Can’t think of any negatives. This replaced a 2021 BMW 530i.
Thank you thank you for using the rav4 xle premium this time
We tested all four vehicles in 2023 and settled down with Forester Limited. After 3500 miles, we are quite happy with Subaru. CX5 has very uncomfortable seats. RAV4 was too short for tall person. CRV is just too expensive and its CVT is actually noiser than Forester.
Do you get snow in your area? Mountains or anything like this? Would this have affected your purchase. I like at 10k ft and I'd get any of these I want the rav the most tho
We do get quite bit of snow, but that’s not the main reason we chose Forester. It’s the comfort, visibility, and ability to fit 6’3” tall person that led us to Forester. CX5 did not get along with my back. After testing RAV4 in 2022, we ended up with purchasing a 2022 MDX, which is super comfortable. When we wanted to buy another SUV in 2023, we rented RAV4 for almost one week to give RAV4 another try. Our younger son couldn’t sit in the front seats with RAV4. Nowadays, most of compact SUVs with sunroof are just not suitable for tall drivers. We would have given CRV-hybrid a chance if it can come without sunroof. By the way, one third of our neighbors have Subaru. So, reliability with Subaru is not a problem. Forester is very intuitive. It’s Eyesight system and physical knobs are very easy to use.
I really tried to like the cx5 but the seat just isn’t for me either
@@chiuuuuuuuuuuwhy’s that? Are seats hard?
We test drove the rav4, the CX-50c and the Honda. We
Didn’t drive the Subaru because my wife didn’t like it’s looks. (Car is for her)
We chose the Honda because of ride, quietness and the overall feel of quality.
The rav4 seems to have very common issues with interior rattling and noise.
I personally like the CX-50 looks and drive, but my wife wanted the Honda.
Lovin my 22 Forester Premium 😊. Touring trim would be a dream
Guess you weren't part of the 450,000 engine recall.
Good, thoughtful, well-considered review. You do a much better job maintaining a neutral and balanced stance than many CarTubers who do these sorts of comparison videos. It's hard not to let your own personal likes and dislikes shade things. Not sure I could do it.
Thank you!
Yep after trying all, beside the Mazda, we went with the Subaru. Ticks all the boxes for a family
A really well balanced review.
We’ve owned Mazda’s, Hondas, Toyotas, and Ford’s during our 46 year marriage. We just bought our first SUV and and we got a ‘24 RAV4 XLE Premium in Wind Chill Pearl. We absolutely love it. We didn’t test drive any other SUVs, so we have nothing else to compare this one too, but we’re very happy with it and plan to keep it until it dies or we do.. which ever comes first! 😂
I think the CX-5 has the best steering feel, the Subaru the best braking feel and best all wheel drive, the Honda the best interior, and the plug in or hybrid RAV-4 the best gas mileage. Subaru recommends spark plug replacement every 30 thousand miles, the Eyesight safety system has a thinner windshield that often cracks, and at 100 thousand miles they often need more parts replaced. For looks inside and out, I think the Mazda looks the best, and the speakers are quite good both base and Bose versions.
I like the CX-5's interior much better than the Honda. Honda's is fine and an easy second place.
RAV4 - Best overall (reliability, safety, mpg and resale) utilitarian vehicle
CX5 - Better driving dynamics and handling.
CRV - more interior space and comfort.
Forester - Best AWD, good for snow driving and off-roading.
Forester for me😮AWD system is not only for offroading but it offers the best grip on the road and many people easily sleeps on this subaru handling prowess
@PercMastaFTW Interior does not make a vehicle. Resale value, space, fuel economy are far better with Honda CRV. Try again
Nice video.
Great video, I can see your sub count going up quickly soon!
I hope so too
My emotional pick would be the Mazda CX5 GS with the regular 2.5L, I really like the driving aspect of the CX5. 🙂
Good morning my wife 💕 my 😅for the flower 🌼 😅😮😢🎉😂❤
Great comparison video 🚗🚙🚖🚘.
Good job 👍🏻 👍🏻.
I will go with RAV4 Hybrid ✅.
I had the same pick before buying my brand new car, after test drving all of these cars i went with Honda crv EXL , oh man i think i made one of the best decisions i am 6ft tall and the space this car has is huge even while sitting at rear seat i am so comfortable , very very good for long drives as you can recline on rear seat, its sporty driving position and handling is so good that i want to take my car our almost everyday .
Was up in the air between the hybrid Honda and the CX5, came down to the automatic transmission and way better interior of the CX5. I went with the 2.5 turbo edition. Two thumbs up
Now we have to put the crv up against the tuscan and sportage. Great video.
Tbh crv because that touring has all features i need with amazing fuel mileage, i had a mazda but the tech issues with sensors were insane.
My wife is currently looking to replace her 2021 CR-V, which was totaled after she was rear-ended at a stoplight. She has test driven the RAV-4, Mazda CX-5, Honda CR-V gas and hybrid. She sat in the CX-50 and is going back to drive it. My feeling is she can't go wrong with any of them. She eliminated the RAV-4 right away ... she said it was ok, but uncomfortable and noisy compared to the others. She does like both the CR-V and Mazda. I might lean personally towards the CX-50, but it needs to be her choice. I think she is leaning towards the CR-V hybrid, primarily because of how much driving she does. She was impressed by the Mazda, and I think a hybrid version would make that decision easy.
Love our CX5, just traded in a 2021AWD for a new 2024 AWD , beautiful driving car, plenty of room for us, beautifully appointed inside ( just the “ select model”, ) , no CVT, AND 0% financing for 60 months, the Forester model we looked at , same approx. price was 5%, dealer financing, that worked out to almost 4000.00 of extra interest over 60 months, our prior CX5 has zero quality problems, it was a no brainer for us.
which trim did you get?
@@joebruhin2098 , just got the Select, it has everything I need and was only 30,000. You get the same car as the higher option models, no turbo charge which I dont need, I do tons of highway driving and freeway and the regular engine is just fine and accelerates great and the mileage is better, and the maintenance factor overtime is much less than that of a turbo charge engine which can be very expensive if you don’t keep it up and end up having problems on the turbo.
How did you get 0 interest for that long?
And your video JUST made me REALIZE what 60/40 split folding seats means. I thought it meant 40% was the SEAT, 60% was the BACKREST, NOT the horizontal breakdown!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Really?
I was true to Toyota had a 2003 and 2015 , i test drove a Mazda 2023 c x 5 I absolutely love it, great looking and safety features …it’s a lil smaller than the Toyota but I’m happy w my purchase
This review is spot on. The RAV4 is probably the most reliable if you plan to drive the car 200,000 miles and want the least issues. But the interior feels plasticky and the seats are short and not all that comfortable. I test drove the Mazda CX-5 normally aspirated and Turbo, the Subaru Forester Limited and new Honda CR-V Hybrid all in one day. I went in thinking I would like the Mazda the most and I do see it as the best value here. Hard to beat the Carbon Edition for the features it has at the price of under $34,000 or the Turbo models if you want a quick, great looking, great build quality, fun to drive SUV for under $40,000. It's built like small tank with near luxury level interior, but the seats are not supportive and we found it cramped in the front seat, back seat and cargo area. I probably need more space than the Mazda offers as I have to carry cargo often. I was surprised that I liked the Honda CR-V Hybrid the best. Looks sporty, quiet, drives well, seems well built, good gas mileage with either powertrain, comfortable seats and lots of room and storage for passengers and cargo. Feels premium. It's a little expensive to get the features I want especially the Bose, I would have to get the top trim. I wish it had front ventilated seats. I actually prefer the standard size sunroof, but besides that, its a winner.
The CX5 should last about the same. They've been using that drivetrain for 10 years now with very few problems.
Are you fat? Is this the real reason why the Mazda seats are a problem?
I test-drove RAV4, CR-V, MDX, RX, Model Y, GV70, and CX-5. GV70 is my first choice but the price/rates went up in 2024 so I settled on the CX-5 which is the closest to the other luxury vehicles listed like the RX. The amount of features you get for the price blows every other model out of the road.
Better hope that CX5 doesn't go off the road itself though, then you'll realize you paid just as much for a grocery getter. If that's all you need if for though, probably the best choice.
Could you review Elantra 2024 hybrid and sonata 2024 hybrid if possible. Liked your way of review
Great comparison. I really liked the Mazda but I could not pull the trigger because of its smaller size and lack of modern tech. No panoramic roof, ventilated seats, HUD and tiny cargo room.
RAV4 - Best overall (reliability, safety, mpg and resale) utilitarian vehicle
CX5 - Better driving dynamics and handling.
CRV - more interior space and comfort.
Forester - Best AWD, good for snow driving and off-roading.
We just bought CX5 happy owner so far. Hybrid was not my criteria
Finally someone calling out the poor design choice of the rav4 center console height and knee room. It feels extremely claustrophobic and one of the reasons we went with the cr-v.
Wife and I just test drove ALL those vehicles. CX-5 was an easy choice in terms of refinement, price, and proven reliability.
These are all good choices. Id go for the Forester than CRV. The one thing about the Rav4 that takes it off the lat for me is dealer mark ups. It almost puts it into another class of car and loses its value
Interesting, no markups on cr-v where you are? For me, the RAV4 has no markups unless its the hybrid but the honda was hit with them!
Yea went to dealership. Got in some Suvs. And was surprised at how Much space the CRV had. Was looking more at the Pilot and passport. But seriously unless you towing up to 5000 lbs. The CRV would probably do with all the space.
Averaging 42 MPG with my ‘22 Rav4 hybrid. Love it!
Thats all people talk about in Rav 4's are the mileage they drive like shit and looks like shit interior is cheap ad hell
@@mbenton6 mine drives great what are you talking about?
@@Redhawk24rav 4 is the noisiest on highway speeds. Engine is rattly and plastics are crap. Got rid of my 2021 and got a 2024 crv hybrid. Day and night difference in driving, sound level and quality.
@@gavinthind3058 i agree. Toyota has cheap plastics inside and you'll hear different rattling inside. Too overrated.
Toyota have a goal in mind and if you can't see pass that their vehicle isn't for you. Reliability, fuel efficiency, and options for everyone's needs is probably their number #1 priority. Quality obviously isn't their main concern probably trying to reduce weight as much as possible. If it's one of your main concern than there's the expense route which is Lexus. One thing for sure Toyota's will take care of you for a very very long time with low maintenance cost as long you keep up with the basic maintenance Iike oil change 4-6k etc.
*Damn. Huge effort. Best CUV buyers guide I've seen!*
Couple notes for viewers doing research for a purchase:
We have a '21 Forester Premium and absolutely love it. The big windows and light off-road capability really do set it apart. Also, with the lower trim's 17 inch wheels, it gets over 30mpg!
In my area, they're running about $1k less than a similar RAV4.
Downsides:
19:12 The Forester's passing power is its biggest weakness IMO. It really struggled to get around slow traffic when hauling the family this summer. (warm temps + high altitude)
A heated steering wheel is not available on the lower trims in the US. You have to buy a Limited and add an expensive option package.
Servicing the CVT is quite expensive ~$300 and should be done more frequently than the other brand's automatics. (Every 40-60k is the consensus if you want it to last.)
The Wilderness really takes a hit to mpg and the markups are currently $3k or more. Not worth it for most people probably.
I heard handling of Subarus is not as good as that of Mazda's.
@@SXZ400i also heard subaru is much more comfortable in taking bad roads than cx5. Nothing is perfect
I would buy the Subaru, thanks for the video 😀
It took them a very long time and many abused owners to finally repair their major issues. And one still has to live with the peculiarities of a boxer engine design.
Idk why Mazda just won't do it and instead wastes resources on EVs, but a regular hybrid CX-5 would be an absolute no brainer must buy over all of these
I think a hybrid CX-50 is coming to the US soon, made in Alabama in the same factory as the Toyota Corolla Cross.
They certainly are taking their time
Yeah, Mazda doesn't currently have a hybrid powertrain in NA for its older vehicles not riding on its newest platform, like the CX-90 and 60, which are mild hybrid i-6 standard or PHEV 4 banger. The hybrid CX-50 is indeed coming soon as mentioned, possibly with a Toyota sourced hybrid drivetrain or some variation or combination of the 90's 4 cyl PHEV/i-6 mild setup. Unfortunately I don't see Mazda putting that hybrid tech into a CX-5, since it'll likely be discontinued before too long, which is a big bummer. It would also be great to see a Mazda 3 hybrid too, but who knows.
Mazda is also discontinuing the MX-30 (its only EV) in NA after this year, though I think it will still be sold elsewhere.
Because EVs are the future
They have a hybrid coming in 2024
Another excellent, detailed review and I would NEVER buy a brand new, ICE only car in this day and age with the war on ICE cars raging. CRV or RAV4 hybrid hands down.
Went with the CX5 carbon turbo
Test drove them all
CX5 checked the boxes.
Yeah I’m thinking Mazda
We went and looked at some of these but my girl actually went with the nissan rogue sv premium. It priced in a little better and the fit and finish was much niver then competitors
Agree about the Forrester steering! Way too light for my taste, esp on the highway. It's a constant battle to keep it in lane. It's too bad, bc the ride and the adaptive cruise are amazing.
I understand that constant battle to keep it in lane is is very annoying..same case with RAV4, also it suddenly lose the lane detection. But I found it working very well on 2023 Nissan Rogue, lane centering works far better and very stable.
There's a reason the RAV4 is the number-one-selling utility vehicle.
Actually doesn't mean anything . People don't want to feel insecure about their choices. Any choice here is fine.
A lot of that is that many people simply blindly purchase them "because Toyota."
Mazda CX-5 or CX-30 all day long. Plus, neither Toyota nor Honda builds them like they used to has been my experience.
I’ve bought the new version Honda CRV and I’m blown away with the vehicle and it’s spec, my only criticism is the screen wash reservoir which is a little small for a vehicle of its size which I notice during the current ice/frost and gritting salt which means constant screen washing, my previous 5 series BMW tourer had a huge reservoir, however its not a huge deal.
Those 2024 models. Nice.
Like he said the Mazda is a good option if you don’t have small kids with big chairs and seats are not ideal / comfortable for long trips.. seats are better than the previous generations tho. I own a 2016 and love it but really don’t like those things about it.
Loony tunes styling and EXTREME ease of use. Yup, sounds like Subaru. Just my size, Extra Medium.
That line got me!! Hahaha
I just bought 2024 Mazda CX-5. It replaced at 2019 CX-5 due to wanting to upgrade the trim. I test drove the 2024 CRV Hybrid and found the car less impressive overall. Choice was easy for me.
I'd take mazda, simply it is made in japan.
Great review, the only thing I disagree on is your criticism of Foresters interior quality. I test drove all 4 and forester’s interior quality is definitely up there if not better than Honda. Yes the tech looks super dated, but from the moment you open the door there is soft leather wrapping almost the whole door and the entire dash, shifter area is all soft touch. I also find it has the least rattle because the Japanese fit and finish. For anyone looking at this, please go test drive them and everyone will have their personal preferences. Btw, Honda and Toyota’s interiors are horrendous in the lower trims, everything you touch is hard plastic, this is not the case for Subaru and Mazda.
I've always liked the Subaru interior also, never thought the quality was lacking. However, to say that it has the least rattle because of Japanese fit and finish...these are all Japanese cars.
The Subaru does have better materials on the doors and less hard touch plastic than the Honda (I should have added that) but build quality is different from materials. The clickiness of the buttons, panel fitment, the creakiness of the interior, the feel of the doors closing and the handles, etc. are what I base build quality off of. Like a mazda3 has more soft touch materials than a lot of actual luxury cars, but it doesn't have the same level of build quality of them. Similarly, the Mazda CX-5 has better build quality than the mazda3, but i'd say the materials are worse on the lower half of trims!
@@Realistickyes that is a fair point I have to agree, the buttons and dials on Subarus are a bit too plastic for my taste.
@Spikejou true they are all Japanese brands, but the Forester and the CX-5 are the only 2 actually built in Japan, which has proven to indicate better build quality due to their stricter standards. The CR-V is assembled in Indiana and the Rav4 is built in Canada.
Great comparison video. I’m personally going for a Forester within the next few months (either Limited or Premier, the top 2 trims in Canada) but Mazda is an extremely close second. RAV4’s are near impossible to find - with extremely long wait times as well- and CRV’s are about as expensive as Outback’s. It’s such a weird market. 😄
Why have you decided to go with forester instead?I am looking to get either mazda cx5 upper trim or tiguan comfortline
@@azizkizbayev439
Your thinking of getting a VW 😂....good luck with that
@@azizkizbayev439I wouldn’t get the Tiguan …
The wooden ride of the cx-5 is why I went with the Subaru.
Gf has a Forrester. Great choice. Actually thinking about the cx 5 though, allergic to CVTs. She’s driving from a swamp to one part of the state to another. I’m driving from city to city.
Great comparison! Your summary was spot on, the biggest negative with the CRV is the price and that's before you add the $3k+ dealer markup (gouging). I know Subaru is not adding anything above MSRP and I believe Mazda is not either, not sure about Toyota.
The Wilderness trim carries a huge markup in my state.
I would shop around, Subaru corporate really try's to discourage dealers from price gauging or try a neighboring state if possible. @@0HOON0
Toyota in my area is marking up 6k on a rav4 Hybrid... We bought a forester 2.5k under MSRP
Subarus and Mazdas are selling with huge discounts and 0% APR here in MA right now. Also no markups on most of the Toyota and Honda models.
@@Gopinathk17 Thanks for updating my comment. Most Wilderness models are now msrp or even below.
The latest CRV seems like its jumped to the next tier level. Looks, size, and price!
The new CRV definitely jumped to a new tier of price! (That's NOT a good thing, btw).
except it does not have spare tire.. dealbreaker for me vs rav4 hybrid
@@wolfshanze5980😂
overpriced
A CRV with Mazda's turbo powertrain and driving dynamics would be perfect
and Subarus AWD & Toyota's reliability & Italian styling....that would be a nice car👍
That would be the Hyundai Tucson Hybrid, with automatic transmission, Turbo Electric drive train and damn sporty on acceleration.
New CRV is perfect🇯🇵☝🏼
Can you review the Honda Passport? Thanks for this review.
I’ll give it a go soon, I’m trying to get the SI or Type R from Honda first but if I can’t, that’ll be next!
Why would you buy the overpriced Passport? I don't remember the last time I saw one.
The Passport isn't in this segment of SUVs, it competes in a different category.
Good luck buying a Rav4 if you can find one they charge 6k over MSRP. We wanted for the last few years but this past weekend we bought a new 2023 Subaru Forester Touring because we were sick of waiting for prices to come down. Subaru gave us a fair deal below MSRP and it was easy to buy the car.
It's largely a regional issue with the RAV4 but I hear you, especially if you're trying to find a hybrid rav4!
It's best to find the early model ones 2019+ actually do your homework example, like get a hold of the Carfax history(very important) check the oil is change every 5-6k it'll be a clear indicator if the car is well taken care of. No major accidents but minor should be okay. If you don't mind the long drive expand your search up to 400miles or however long you're willing to travel to get to that rav4 you solely want. That's how I was able to get my 2019rav4hybrid one owner just under 25k but good thing it was hidden within my city.
Best bang for your buck and you can always add All Terrain tires for your off road trails/hobbies with a 2 inch lift kit suspension which there's tons available to choose from especially for Toyota's just make sure it's a reliable one
@@le0redd104 sounds like you got what you wanted, thats great! Our Prius lasted 12 years and we liked it. We wanted a new car because we drive them for a decade or so. Toyota needs to make it easier to buy their car. They lost a loyal customer.
@@arndtbc things were a lot different before covid19 came in almost feel like a whole generation shifted and unfortunately so did the market too. We'll see as time goes on. Look for what's best for you that'll suit your lifestyle. No one I mean not even a big company brand will care for your loyalty as long they keep on see positive results yearly they'll continue with what they're good at. Best of luck! 🫡
@@arndtbcI’m in the same situation. The interest rate and tax in CA is putting XLE over 45k. Not worth it. Forester it is ;) even over the hybrid
Mazda cx 5 for sure. Just make sure its a 22 or newer. Pre 22 lots of valve and cracked cylinder issues
Mazda has the best interior without question
I can’t question?🙋
Interesting, why review cx-5 and instead of cx-50? Would’ve loved to see that one for the comparison. Sorry if I missed the explanation in the video.
I live in a rugged place with shittily paved roads. Subarus are best suited for the landscape. Good clearance, great visibility, tons of space, and real AWD. That being said, a good set of tires on a less appropriately suited vehicle do make up some of the difference. Will there be a extra maintenance costs with Foresters? Consumer Reports doesnt think so. Time will tell...
I'd go with the C-RV! It would be great if they add a panoramic sunroof, and rear heated seats and maybe a 41,363$ price for that.
I like the Subaru. It’s my opinion
Me too!
trying to make the numbers work to get a CRV EX...car prices are so high today.
It’s unfortunate but the CR-V is awesome if you can get ahold of one, best of luck!
Has anyone here decided between the forester wilderness or the mazda cx 50 (any trim). I feel as if cx50 is a contender but the forester has a better tech and suspension.
Which one did you pick? What was the deciding factor that made you choose.
Starting with the 2017 CRVs they had a floor that had 2 positions, and with the seats folded down and the floor in the highest position it was almost perfectly flat. Did they take that away or did you not know about it?
I believe they got rid of it, I never formally reviewed the last gen but the hybrid i had definitely did not have a 2-level floor!
They still offer the 2-position floor on the non-hybrid models of the CRV. In the hybrid they put the battery under the rear cargo floor, and it cannot be moved.
@@josephisom4746 Noted! I’ll try to get ahold of a turbo model.
RAV4 looks the best. Especially in xse hybrid form
Can’t see the beauty of it. Too many lines and creases going every which way. Styling way too busy.
I mean ya, u get it, Rav4 does scream "2010 now and forever!" in design.
It's the highest selling car in North America..and if they address those few small issues also then can't imagine if any other vehicle can even come closer with its sales.
You said CRV was your personal choice. Which trim level?
What about the Hyundai Tucson?
I've been shopping this segment for a new vehicle for my wife. The Mazda's look and feel much more upscale than the others especially the Toyota and Subaru. I love the Subaru AWD system as it is the only actual AWD system available in this class unless you want to move up in price for a Q3 with the outstanding Audi quattro drive system. Unfortunately the CVT and 'face only a mother could love' looks of the Subaru's are a deal breaker for me. I know the newer Subaru CVT's have a pretty good track record and get good MPG but I just don't like driving CVT's and even a good CVT with meticulous maintenance is no where near as durable/reliable as a conventional trans. and if you are towing anything at all CVT's are questionable at best. We are strongly leaning towards a Mazda but will likely go with a CX-50 because in our opinion it's much nicer looking than the dated CX-5 and we prefer the wider cabin and wider, longer cargo space and better rear leg room of the CX-50. Before all you CX-5 fans jump on me, yes the CX-5 is slightly quieter and rides/handles slightly better we just prefer the look of the CX-50 and the extra 1500lbs of towing and the extra ground clearance of the CX-50. Also my wife is a big fan of the pano sunroof. As the saying goes happy wife happy life!! Hard to go wrong with any of these vehicles in terms of quality, utility and value.
the cr-v's pumped in engine audio lets you know when vtec just kicked in yo.
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Hybrid for me. If cx5 comes out with it I'll take that but for now hybrid for the win
Too bad the durability is not talked about. The Honda and the Subaru use a CVT. I know from personal experience in my family that the CVT in the Subaru fails at about 80,000 to 100,000 miles with the solenoid failing. If not replaced for $1000 quickly, the transmission goes and costs $9000. Otherwise it lasts 150,000 before it fails in any case. From friends their Honda's CVT fails around 130,000 and costs $8000 to replace. I prefer the Mazda with its 6 speed automatic which can last 200,000. Same goes for the gas powered Toyota with its 8 speed. Even Consumer Reports says this over time as the Honda and Subaru transmissions turn red the older the cars get.
Yup. Subaru's are garbage, but their cult following has projected an image of quality. My buddy told me Subarus are great cars.... except that the transmissions go out every 60k miles. Utter delusion.
@@alibabaschultz352 Unfortunately, if you want to keep your car longer than 100,000 you are right. I do have a Subaru but it is a 2013 when they still offered a 5 speed automatic on specific models. I have that car still and it has 142,000 and no transmission issues. It probably is the first and last Subaru I will own as I won't trust that CVT they have.
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@@alibabaschultz352 They have a reputation built on their old Brats etc that were very light and had smaller displacement engines that didn't have the inherent issues the larger engines of today have or EPA regs that basically force them to use a CVT. Subaru owners have a tendency to stretch the truth or flat out lie about their reliability. I was looking at getting a Crosstrek a couple years ago and the maintenance records speak for themselves, every single one of them were turned into the dealership for trade in before the warranty ran out at roughly 45k miles and every single one of them needed all four brakes replaced and at least two wheel bearings. Oil consumption issues, some still blowing head gaskets, issues with the infotainment system, some complaints of electrical issues etc. They all have weird and very frustrating gremlins like the same headlight bulb blowing out for no reason, randomly shattered rear windows in the hatchbacks on Imprezas.
They have a better AWD system than most others... and frankly... that's all they have to offer IMO.
I like the Forester but without a more powerful engine option, it is a non-starter for us.
CX5 Turbo
7 years ago I tried to convince my parents to buy a cx5. They got a Q3 instead. That mazda is very long in the tooth. For regular ppl I'd be suggesting the rav4. For myself, I'd buy certified used x3
'Certified used', is that good?
@@mrgarrison3516 very. You'll be surprised how many different cars they sell
New is always a bad financial decision. Let some sucker take the initial depreciation hit.
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Could I buy a Subaru 'certified used' ?
@@mrgarrison3516 fabulous question sir. Check with your local subaru dealer!
I am right in the midst of test driving these vehicles, and your take is right on target. I drove the CX-5, turbo and non-turbo. (I'm looking to replace a '14 Forester XT, so I'm used to some oomph and a decent suspension). The CX-5 power was "adequate", the turbo, much more so. In the CX-5, there is an easy to use, on the fly, drive mode switch on the console, so you can drop into sport for better throttle response and holding gears. In the top trim, you can get bird's eye view, and on near top, you can get a head's up display, which also shows your Nav. As noted, the front seats seemed a bit short on the bottom cushion, and while they look to have side bolsters on the seatback, the suspension tuning will allow you to drive so that you wished you had more lateral support. The back seats are not going to cut it for frequent use of taller adults. I'm 5-11+. and sitting behind myself, my knees hit the back of the front seat while trying to get into the back. Egress was not great at all. Once in, I could splay my legs and "fit". (The CX 5 drives great! Think you could enjoy carving up a curvy road to an extent. The 6-spped MT is a bit antiquated. Think a whole new CX-5 is coming in '25, and RAV-4 as well) Putting three adults in the back of a CX-5 would be only for short trips at best, and if you look at photos, the center "seat" is shorter on the bottom. Fog lights are not available on the CX-5 either, and that is important for my aging eyes and where we live. I did like the infotainment system interface. Pretty intuitive and easy to use. From there, we dropped into the Forester Wilderness. I was intrigued by the shorter gearing and dropping nearly a second off the 0-60 vs the "regular" Foresters. I had already ruled out the Outback. It weights 450-500 lbs more, and the 2.5 just doesn't cut it. The Wilderness felt a bit mushy and vague compared to the non-Wilderness, and after driving the CX-5, felt like a truck. Unless you are off-roading, I'd skip the Wilderness. What you gain in acceleration, you lose in steering feel. (Must be the 17" higher profile tires). The shorter gearing and other stuff costs you 5 mpg highway vs the other Foresters. I drove a regular Forester a few weeks back, and it felt like it was more nimble. Power was "adequate" but as with most of these NA versions, you feel it trying to merge onto 60 mph highways. Unfortunately, the Apple Car play is NOT wireless. There is a button on the steering wheel for a "sport" mode, and it does perk things up a little in around town driving. Note too, that the Foresters (not sure on base trim) and CX-5 have adaptive headlights that turn when you turn your wheels. All Foresters (not sure on base) come with fog lights standard. The CRV looks great, BUT,, in the hybrid (which it looks like is the way to get decent acceleration), towing capacity drops to a class trailing 1,000 lbs, and there is NO SPARE TIRE. (Others have spare - full size). The CX-5 can tow 2,000, the RAV 4 hybrid is 1750, and the regular non-Wilderness Foresters 1500. That is kind of keeping me off of the Honda lot. I don't think you can get fog lights either, in spite of the chromed surround looking decorations on the lower front grill. Have yet to drive a RAV-4, but it is on my list, most likely the hybrid. I have done some calcs, and in the Honda, there is quite a long payback for the extra hybrid $$ (about 60k miles, depending on whether you use City, Highway, or Combined, and price of gas), but you get a lot more punch and apparently Honda has improved NHV fundamentals on the hybrids only (odd decision). I think the RAV-4 can be optioned to have fog lights, and bird's eye view but likely part of packages that have stuff you don't want. Toyota seems to offer a better variety of packages though. Finding one on a lot might be a different story, and likey few "deals" to be found. Not sure on the HUV. As with most car buying decisions, it is about trade-offs. BTW, the Outback XT is off my list too. When I got my Forester XT, it came with a sport tuned suspension, bigger wheels, tires, brakes, and 3 pre-set driving modes (sport, sport sharp, intelligent), plus manual paddle shifting. The modes are easy to activate with wheel mounted buttons. The new Outback XT does not come with an upgraded suspension or brakes, and the only enhanced "sport" mode is buried in the second level of the infotainment system. Not too handy for on-the-fly changes. Plus it is within a few lbs of 4,000, and in spite of the 2.4 l vs my 2.0L, it doesn't feel as lively. Not worth the premium gas and lower mpg, and cost. Good luck everyone. Great job with the reviews, Realistick!
I'm looking at all these cars with the exception of the Forester for a number of years and I'm probably going to settle on the RAV4 for longevity and build quality while not the most luxurious it really looks like it's going to stand the test of time better than the others and this includes the paint quality.
We just bought a '24 Mazda CX5 Carbon. When compared to the others in this test, I've got to say the Mazda beats them hands down in style and build quality. The Toyota and Subaru are strange looking. The Honda and the Subaru are using that CVT transmission that has had it's share of problems.
CRV > RAV4 > CX-5 for space alone