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Showrunners: "let us insult our core audience viciously and repeatedly, either by calling them names or insulting their intelligence with scams"
Audience: "Ok, we will no longer be your audience"
Showrunners: *surprised pikachu face*
G4 was like a steakhouse that served meat for meatlovers. And then they started hiring a PETA activist that starts insulting the meatloving customer and the other steakhouse employees encouraged her while clapping passive aggressive. And the crazy activist yells at the customer they should stop visit their steakhouse, when they don't like her POV. PEACE!
So bad
Thats what chicks do. Did you see shehulk? They did the same thing.
@@Cybertech134 women☕
calm down ladies, return to monke please and eat a banana - it's for your own good
When Morgan Webb was a host, that was the peak.
Show was about 100% games and electronics, no matter what you liked... no one got attacked!
Some of my best faps tbh. her and olivia my gawd
I remember always watching the Arena show. That show was the reason I got into competitive gaming. They would always play Unreal Tournament 2004, and Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy. I never watched any of this new iteration of G4tv, but from the looks, it wasn’t anything like the good days of Morgan Webb and Olivia Munn
@@lordfizzz Same!
They even did trouble shooting!
Morgan Webb + Adam Sessler was peak G4
"Don't like it?, Don't watch it! Peace." So brave and so stunning, truly words to die by.
"You guys don't have phones???"
At this point we should fill a book with similar lines to end your own career.
and then the BBC did exactly the same thing with doctor who.
She had a brief taste of power and sent the show to death in a matter of moments. SPEED RUN LEGEND HAHA
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Speed run indeed!
@@myownfan haha I was dying XD
KEK
how are people acting like frosk didn't have one of the biggest prences in league before g4?
that seal clap cost that bloke a lot - hope it was worth it
I love how they have a health bar above her indicating she is an enemy to herself.
I understood that reference!
@@Trump4Peace Not anymore
I did not notice the bar all this time till I read this comment today. You are the best to bring me this much joy.
Wow I just noticed that 😂
joel taught you well.
Frost is a perfect example of blowing your engine on the start line. What frost had to do is convince people that G4 was worth watching and EP1 is a make or break ep. Instead of establishing herself with the audience by being charismatic, she got on her soap box and screeched at her audience. People do not like being talked down to a total stranger. She clearly has no idea how to be a good host and was a poor choice overall I dont even know if she actually plays video games because i never bothered to look up anything else about her which is what 95% of her audience did.
Wtf? That was episode 1!?
She was a league of legends caster/analyst. Sad to see her fall so hard
@Senshi something along that line
@@doom2avatar It wasn't remotely episode 1, but it was within the first month or so of them being up and running.
Quote;We have done the experiment and controlled for thr variables.
This was said by the feminist that parroted a review written by someone off screen.
How fucking stupid did everyone involved have to be for this shit to even slide past the moneybags!!
30:29 “you’re not attacking guy’s gender” has anyone ever played? They call you gay, they say your cawk is small, they saying you sleep with your sister, and a bunch more crazy things… and you’re upset because someone told you to go back to the kitchen? This is the internet… it’s not real.
Agreed
Morgan Webb might have been hired as a pretty face but she was entertaining, relatable, charismatic and was informative without being offensive. She too probably got a ton of sexist feedback when she first started but if she did a meet and greet today I bet majority of the fans would say positive things about her reviewing and her humor and less so her looks.
Frosk right out the gate came into G4 with a stick up her ass and she continued to keep that ego as her personality.
@@rch5991 Nailed it. I'm from the Screen Savers era, watched Cheat! and X-Play between '00 and '04. The launch of AotS was the beginning of the end, and that was something I could recognize even as a 14 year old. Fuck the Olivia Munn fandom, that shit ruined the entire network.
You can tell she was coked out of her mind the first time she was on screensavers.
"If you don't like it, don't watch it!!" that aged well 😂🏆
I actually tried watching it because I love the completionist but stopped watching at her request and now they got shut down from a lack of viewership
I love democracy :)
I feel bad for everyone that lost their job except for frost since she celebrated her coworkers losing their job
Frosk*
@@linkinitup There's no need to correct the man... she doesn't deserve any respect
@@Sir_Catnip Know thy enemy as you know thyself.
Is frosk the "let's talk about sexism in video games" person?
@@valkrian0974 ~Hitler
To sum it up:
1- frost knows shit about gaming
2- She got called out for this
3- She pulled out a victim card, insulted fans and told them to go away
4- The network supported this
5- They went broke.
G4 dropped the ball by not having their shows streamed on twitch 24hr a day. They had so much material from their archives to show and to show repeats of their new shows to get people interested in the live shows. In west coast their shows were at odd times.
The "Frosk Rant" killed G4 months ago, it just took a while for them to realize it.
Exactly. Gaming at its core has a lot to do with escapism. So when the potential core audience tuned in, only to be greeted by a lecture, they "noped" out forever. Simple as that. Doesn't even matter if Frosk was right or wrong - that is completely beside the point. People weren't tuning into G4 TV to hear that stuff.
This.
I am just glad I don't have to watch her ruining LoL broadcasts. Although the pouty face fiasko during casting of one of her last appearances was hillarious. Still she will blame it on everyone else, not addressing the fact that she is extremely unlikeable.
G4 was trying to provide us a service that we already have.
The Frosk Rant was a symptom of the disease that spread and eventually killed the channel. It was not the disease itself.
Frosk: "Sexism in Gaming..."
Again Frosk: "If you don't like it, don't watch it! PEACE!"
Employees: "tf?"
she once said that the RIOT desk has no diversity. but no one person on the desk when she was there was from the same country or nationality. what she says have no proof or backing
@@pandapo7542 She is still a nobody living in a crappy apartment, just an American apartment now.
And they did, it was a mass unsub for months🤣
Employees: "Agree" FITY
@@fartloudYT Nice "eager to lick boots" attitude, corporations love exploiting your kind.
I feel absolutely TERRIBLE for Jirard. You can f*cking tell that he just witnessed his dream job vanish in front of his eyes.
He should have spoken up, or walked off. He didn't have to do it during filming, but he could have done it before or after. This is what he gets for being a "woke ally".
When you work with toxic people, you're going to get poisoned.
Shittu happenso 😁
Maybe he can cry in his millions
I do as well. He was literally the only innocent one there, looking like a deer in the headlights, seeing his life flash before his eyes.
@@noneyabidness9644 His own fault
I felt like I was being yelled at by the next door neighbor's parents, not mine, about something I didn't do.
"If you don't like it don't watch it" you said it frosk they stopped watching good on you
We did what Frosk said to. Lol.
She kilted them...
They called her bluff
I think it is very important to differentiate between an attack vector and an attack reason.
I was born with a walking disability, so whenever someone really wants to insult me, that's where they will go. They didn't do it because they hated people with disabilities, they did it to hurt me specifically.
I think the major problem we have is toxicity; all the big "-isms" in online games are significantly puffed up by attack vectors.
People definitely get hung up on hyper focused views of sexism or bigotry and begin to lose sight of harassment itself being a problem.
Well said
Really well said.
Best take I have seen in a while.
yup. well said. thats how ive felt for years now with this stuff. most people dont have deeply rooted bigoted beliefs, they just attack the first thing they see. its still not right, but i dont think its indicative of some massive problem.
Literal example of "go woke, get broke" gg wp
"sexism is a huge issue" I agree, the amount of people insulting someone elses dick size is insane these days >_>
When Frosk goes on her tirade, she starts chastising the audience for something that hasn't even happened yet!
My theory about frosk not getting fired.
Execs knew g4tv was going down, and with frosk still employed, she would have been the public face of the shutdown which would have killed her career. But after her stupid tweet, they had no choice but to fire her too.
I feel like they didn't fire her because she could've hit them with a discrimination lawsuit since her rant is directly related too sexism. Her tweet was the last straw. I bet that tweet pissed off everyone that was still there. They had a meeting with her and she tried copping a "it was just a joke" plea while they said "that was distasteful and we've had your back". She's socially awkward and doesn't know how too exist in this space
@@BlackHippy313 I have a feeling that they thought about the discrimination lawsuit but the tweet was a good excuse to fire her and have a definitive alternative to defend themselves if she brought it up.
@@gerbo8018 wait, what did she do at riot that destroyed her career? I missed it
she called other girls hoes, while having a segment about sexism.... Crazy man
She killed the whole company because not one man was willing to beat one off to her, stunning and brave.
Beautifully and succinctly put 😂
The hate towards Nadia being so high Isn't just because she's a woman, that's a factor, but it's the fact that she is so openly open and loud about how she's so good and so much better than everyone else with an ego attached to it compared to other cheaters who dwell in their cave in order to not be noticed for cheating. However Nadia is different, I've never seen a cheater so open
Her being a woman isn't a factor, soyboy.
Shh, don't go against the narrative, you'll get cancelled. The hate towards Nadia is because she's a woman who is very good at gaming and men don't like that.
@@ymx7947 yeah true holly shit he will get cancelled omg shhh just follow the narrative, its not like the narrative is what he exactly said in his comment, people who said she isn't cheating you have to prove it which is true they got laughed at by cod zoomers.
Man, that Frosk rant killed the channel faster than a Stormtrooper wearing a red shirt while working on the second Death Star
Working as a trash compactor cleaner with 50 Dianogas in the pool that all share a terminal and highly-contagious disease that spreads to humans.
No G4 would have died ether way, getting into Cable TV with a video game show is stupid in this day and age, plus the they had a huge studio that was draining money faster than anything else. The whole thing was doomed to fail before it started, just a bunch of old embarrassing humans thinking they live in 90s/00s.
lol
Yeah I seriously stopped watching after that lol
It’s very sad. I loved G4 back in the day and was happy to see it’s revival.
Same here, g4 was definitely was apart of my childhood.
Same
In hindsight, having The Completionist is another red flag.
The cheering frosk got during that segment... oh man, she was feeling herself so hard, it just kept going and going.
I heard that it was mostly all added in post, there's a Rumor going around that there was stunned silence on the set and frosk immediately regreted what she said afterwards but they needed to keep up appearances.
@York Hunt I was refering to the people behind the camera not the goobers in front of it those loud cheers and claps you hear off screen even the clip with Adam sessler seal clapping is supposedly from something else that they copied and edited into the scene to make it seem like she had more support than she did and to not make it awkward.
Once again rumors but supposedly someone on the set was the source.
@@orbbb24 I do not, but I'm sure if you look it up on CZcams you can find it it been reposted thousands of times.
If your refering to the clip of her regreting it afterwards im afraid its not public or it Dosen't exist, these were claims made by someone on set, therefore its rumor.
I think the big misstep was simply bringing the network back in the same state it was in on its deathbed. I remember the first year G4 came out, it had original content, games shows, retrospectives and documentaries as well as talk shows like TechTV and Attach of the Show.
But I felt like its revival was, lets just bring back the last 2 shows we had left and hope for the best. They should have streamed live E-sports, maybe tapped popular YT creators who make amazing long form documentaries on new and classic games etc. The possibilities were endless. They also should have streamed their content on places like Twitch and YT in addition to TV. But it all ended up being a half assed cash grab that failed.
What really killed it on arrival was Wokeness....Woke ruins everything
itsagundam did a deep dive, the people they hired had little to do with the culture they wanted to be part of
its like hiring a famous pizza maker to run your hamburger chain
@@PKr_0 not sure if i';m whoosing or not.... there are sites and groups that fill all those needs already
Well they had a little bit of it with Scott the Woz editing his episodes for tv, and the completionist being a main host and I making content for it. They had some awareness of the space, but not enough.
Honestly I just don't think they could have done it today. There's barely any kids growing up without the internet, yt, twitch anymore. I'm 19 and up to when I turned 13, I was still watching cable regularly, and then it switched to yt and twitch. I think back around that time from 2010 to 2016 it would have worked well, but after that, not really.
Scott the woz could have saved them
Everyone gets shit on, doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl. It's whether or not you can move past it and rise above that really makes a difference. Someone missed the message on that one.
I disagree with Asmon about there being a problem with sexism in WoW for example. I've experienced the exact opposite time and time again. With players/guilds acting like complete simps and giving some of the worst players a free ride because they're a girl. In fact they got so many free boosts, biased loot priority and gold/mounts showered upon them, that my friend started pretending to be one himself.
Man, G4 was the bomb when I was a kid. My family would sit by the fireplace and watch the _Ninja Warrior_ tournaments with eager anticipation. It was good times.
AOTS, Cheat, Xplay, weird Unreal Tournament competitions haha good times
sounds like a dope family, if any of my family saw that on tv they'd leave the room
Haha wow, good times for sure ❤
That was when it started going downhill. It used to be all surrounding gaming and tech. Ninja warrior was cool though lol.
@@GodofLovers I'll take MXC on Spike over Ninja warrior on G4 anyday haha, im reveling in nostalgia too much.
G4TV mainly failed because no one likes condescending A-Holes being passive aggressive in a "this totally isn't bothering me even though it obviously does" way. Also they decided to be aggressive towards fans or potential fans before they were big enough to get away with it. Also they were A-Holes to one of the most passionate in positive and negative ways, gamers.
Pretty sure it was Frosk that got them canceled, as you can see how their viewership was going up by thousands of subscribers a week, then her rant hit, then they were dropping thousands of subscribers a week. Even more than they were gaining prior.
Feels bad for The Completionist. Dude makes stellar content and made a great video about the TMNT collection on XPlay.
What a difference a year makes... though to be fair at the time we didn't know what we know now about Jirard.
@@CanuckGod and this changes what?
@@Aether776the completionist is a criminal
I don't know much about the rest of the G4 cast, but when I think of the entire situation I feel bad for Jirard, considering this was one of his big dreams and when he finally gets on THIS happens
Edit: I completely forgot I even made this comment. Oof this aged terribly.
I feel bad for all of them aside from Frost and that other ultra woke weirdo Adam Sessler
Nah, I don’t feel bad for him. He decided to support his toxic co-workers.
I feel the same way, just that I'm not really aware of many of the other people that were in G4
@@AwsOm3Fac3 You could also interpret it as feeling the "need" to as to not look like an asshole, I got the idea that he was was put on the spot and wasn't expecting it to happen, but I am also not Jiard so I will never know
@@delix8869 No it's very clear that Frosk's rant was absolutely just off the cuff, not planned or previously discussed to happen. Jirad very clearly said like "WHOA I didn't think this was happening today but I'm with it." Could you even imagine the shit Jirad or anyone else in that room could have got in if they decided to mitigate or tell her to calm down or tell her to get back to the Red Dead topic she decided to hijack for her rant. Jirad had to at least semi-play along during that so the crazies wouldn't be down his throat.
The biggest problem with G4 was they never really focused or informed you on games. They focused on issues with the gaming community and issues with gaming developers and companies and so on. I don't want to sit down and relax and just here about all this stuff I have read online about over and over. I want to relax and here about new games being developed, see new game trailers, maybe even watch stuff like best clips from the week, or funniest fails in game clips recently. Just general information on games. I remember back in the day when you would get a game informer magazine you didn't get it to hear news about the gaming industry or issues with online community. You got it to see new game developments and strategies for certain games and see screenshots from upcoming games. They actually informed you about useful gaming information, they didn't try to push agendas and gossip about the community and industry.
I thought X-play's retrospectives on resident Evil, sleuth games, Fight Night, and Madden were good deep dives into certain franchises and genres. They took a look at what made the games popular, and where the games had a mistep, and if they recovered. They speculated on where the franchise could go from there. I saw a couple episodes where they reacted to game trailers, and talked about how they excited they were for the new game.
I didn't see any episodes talking about the gaming industry though. Unions, pay discrepancies, workplace abuse, crunch. Frosk had a good chance to talk about crunch at Rockstar there when she started talking about how Red Dead was her favorite game.
bro, literally everything you just described is posted daily by pc gamer, kotaku, and other sites you probably read. youre not gonna find anything new on a tv channel.
It’s important to remember that the old g4 (24/7 cops reruns, the man show etc.) went on to esquire magazine while the new g4 got revived solely for x-play and AOTS but so far their cable was just AOTS streaming and laying down tracks in front of the content train so eventually the quality suffered
What we had: Hot bikini girls, bad ass games, cool technology
What could we accepted: Cool games, good humor
What we got: A raging lesbian lecturing us on sexism, and incorrect basic game news.
Lol y’all need girlfriends especially if you need to see hot girls that badly
@@MrAjking808 I wonder how unemployment is going to change that thinking.
They can't help themselves. Can't handle people saying mean things and feeling the need to grandstand with their garbage that no one wants to hear on a gaming channel. Heroes in their own minds.
Yep exactly
That’s a good way to say it.
Thank you for saying this. Also Comcast made a fantastic choice.
Exactly 👏
And the next one to come along will not learn. They'll repeat the same mistake
So that's what happened to Froskurinn after League. Well I don't think anyone wants her back on LEC anyway...
I don't think its sexist to find her unattractive, it's hard not to.
G4TV should have know not to touch Frosk, especially after Riot dropped her for causing internal drama behind the scenes. And of course she attacked the one person who was known for being a all around genuine nice person.
"If you don't like it, don't watch"
"I survived."
🤡😂
This is what happens when you burn the fan base who was looking forward to g4 coming back. The NFT's frost and Adam literally calling for the death of people to the right of him politically
You mean right of center. Their whole staff and ideology was Left = unhinged simpleton.
Adam is such a turd...Can't stand that clown and bootleg Link
I'm not sexist. Being sexist is wrong.
And being wrong is for women.
-Superman
Citing Asmon here: "Talk to 5 girls playing wow and at least one of them is going to have a problem with a guy" so thats his argument for there being sexism in gaming.... What????
Also it's not sexist for men to want to watch hot women talk about video games. Saying that it is allows sexism to blanket cover every single "women's" gripe about men.
When g4 came back and seemed to be more focused on including every group of people instead of games, I knew it was over before it began
Asmon presented this perfectly tbh.
I gave an example to my gf about this whole thing. Imagine you're in a work meeting to discuss a project with like 15 people and at the beginning of it one of the employees says "excuse me I'm going to take control of this meeting for a bit". They then rant about how someone at the company was rude to them and rude people are disgusting, and no one should be rude to anyone and if they are they can shove it. Sure, people shouldn't be rude, but that is neither the time or the place. We would all think that individual has a massive chip on their shoulder and is has a serious problem with their ego as well as being a bit mentally unstable. I can't imagine the self-righteousness one would need to have to think this is appropriate.
Here's the thing about how men and women are judged differently though: that's not a bad thing. Because men and women ARE different.
We're equal, both in the eyes of God and the law. But we are inherently, intrinsically different, and that's not a result of the rules of our society. The rules of our society are the result of it.
So yes, Men judge women, on a superficial level, by their looks. And guess what? Women judge men, on a superficial level, by their money and status. Both are shallow, just in different ways.
The trouble with feminism is it, as the name implies, is completely one-sided in its perspective. And it doesn't bother with nuanced issues, like human nature, biological drives, or toxic femininity. It is concerned only with what is expedient, not what is True. A flaw it shares with the Left at large.
Dude wants a literal social credit system
Fk that
Are you just now realizing that all those blue haired cultists are closeted commies?
I feel bad for those who paid for others' failings. I wish them luck.
Simps get what simps deserve. A man simped for Olivia Munn and dug his own monetary grave.
As opposed to paying for someones success? I'm sorry but donating money to someone for anything except charity is just straight up dumb.
@@neotower420 How do you even manage to over read a comment that hard?
@@RobotMasterSplash I dont really care that much if it helps you not be so offended.
@@neotower420 Calling other people "offended" so immediately really doesn't help you look less irrational.
Saying "Twitch is sexist" or "gamers are sexist" MERELY FOR DESIRING TO SEE ATTRACTIVE FEMALES IS NOT WHAT BEING "SEXIST" means Zack...
Geez how come we can't get WORDS right lol
Someone who DOES like looking at attractive girls CAN be sexist (holding a negative opinion on females in general/specific females SOLELY BECAUSE they're female)
But I LOVE the female form, love looking at it while ALSO loving my wife and desiring deeply to protect all the women in my life that I can.
DON'T fall for the "SJW" and post modern crap that healthy male desire is INHERENTLY BAD 🤙🏼
exactly. ive noticed his views are very biased nowadays. he's so off. Wanting to see attractive women isn't fucking sexist..
@@Kai-yx1eb 💯
The picture of Froskurinn tells you all you need to know when it comes to why G4 got cancelled. She is the perfect example of why it died.
I hear that Frosk, Irritator of Fans, Nuker of Corps, the Toxic Sludge of LoL, hath received a golden parachute. And wonder we do: Why?
Nerd
15:12 what a laugh. Like men aren’t judged by their looks AND their hobbies, their job, their personality, etc. judged just as much of not more.
Asmon is such a damn simp
The NFT pushing aged like a fine, warm milk. And the arrogance without foresight.
Im glad I have memories watching the original G4 at my grandmas back in the day. I loved hearing about gaming before I could just google reviews
The likelihood is no matter who you are there are gonna be trolls and how you deal with them is everything. They are gonna go for what bothers you the most for maximum troll efficiency.
Maaaan, Instead of talking about games and being entertaining, they wanted to be conscious/woke and provide less of a focus on giving the watchers a good time and providing them with good gaming news while being fun to watch. Sucks for the peeps who lost their job, hope they bounce back.
They were not doing a good job. Like sure like couple of people were good and did not deserve it, but a lot of them were doing kinda bad job. Like they are playing video games for living, the standards are not that high, but they kept fucking up.
I haven't seen that much of it, cause I ain't paying for that, but from what i recall they had more technical difficulties and bad writing/production than average talk show.
You don't go broke if you are doing a good job, and if someone is doing a bad job, even your boss you talk to them about it before you loose your job.
Dude g4 straight sent Olivia Munn to Jamaica on 420 in 2008 to get stoned and drink shroom tea .badasses.
G4 2022 gender equality reeeeeeee.
The funniest part about all this in hindsight is the the girl complaining about sexism and being accused of being a cheater was banned on stream. She can delete the vod, but she can't pretend that the footage is fake. She literally verbally acknowledges that she was banned lmao.
It isn't sexist to like to look at hot chicks. Now if you only respect the hot chicks and tell the other girls to eff off, then sure. The women on g4 back in the day knew what they were doing and they were fine with it. They didn't have to work there. But yeah, the whole appeal of g4 was game reviews by people people knew their shit, and hot chicks that are also geeks. If anything, it was sort if an attempt at helping women enter the gaming scene. They weren't saying you have to be hot, but they were saying "look gaming is cool now, even hot chicks like it".
There was no freaking way this was going to profit from the get go. They spent 30 million on the studio alone, that's before talent, staff, running the network, etc. Who ever made that call doomed the thing before it got off the ground. They should have started small and grew. Then again an indictment of comcast planning is the fact they own a stream service and g4 was put on it, advertised on it or their other avenues. There was just 0 planning going into it's first year. Frosk certainly didn't help, but I just didn't see how they'd make it to 2-3 years.
i dont think wanting to watch hot women talk about games is sexist. people generally prefer looking at what's nicer on the eyes. sexism is treating someone as an inferior person just for not being hot
Go woke go broke. I mean my god I am STILL trying to find examples where going woke BENEFITED the project.
Extreme liberals….good god.
There isn’t a sexism problem in gaming. There’s a trash talking problem in gaming and that’s because they aren’t face to face. Trash talkers just grasp onto whatever they can to make fun of you. And if you’re a girl then it’s your gender…
Bingo
Exactly, people act like women are the only ones who get harassed online. This is the internet… everyone gets harassed.
@@RuecianGray yeah I’d say that’s true. I just hate when I hear the victim card about sexism in the sense that they think they’re getting more shit talked because they’re female when in fact everyone gets it. But yeah and to add to what you said the gaming circle is definitely more male so when there are girls they can be bombarded with tons of guys trying to talk to them.
@@RuecianGray true but its just the pros and cons of our genders. as a guy the good thing is noone gives a f about you but the bad thing is no one gives a f about you. for women its the same. yes they get harrased for being females but they also get lots of attention and preferential treatment as a trade off. everyone gives an f about them. its annoying sometimes but its also harder for them to truly ever be alone. hell asmon himself said in mmos guy use girl alias to get friends, materials, companionship and preferential treatment overall a more inviting experience so even dudes are trying to utilize the advantage. so im hardpressed to see them as victims more than just a variant to the general harrassment we've all faced.
Another massive part to this that most don't acknowledge is the merging of men and women into common social spaces.
In the past the world of men and women were very separate. If it's going to work out there will be growing pains.
I'm not %100 convinced it will in the end. I see people will likely just leave, men and women.
Nah...there is all the "isms" in gaming, and they've always been there. Sexist, racists, ageists, homophobics. Calling it out in the way that she did was her way of trying to shame the people who don't like her. Olivia Munn was hot and all the fans thought so, but she didn't claim to be some expert on games. She wasn't even on a gaming show. AOTS wasn't about video games. Morgan Webb did come off as an expert, and we loved her. Thats why she was on a gaming show. Blair Butler talked about comics, and i loved that shit because she knew what she was talking about. Her opinions held water. Frosk always came off as an idiot. We didn't hate her because we thought she was ugly or because she's a woman. We hated her because she doesn't know shit about games, yet she was on a show about games. It sucks that people are judging her on looks or the fact she's a female, but that isn't the whole audience, and it definitely isn't all the people that couldn't stand her. You can't lump all your haters into 1 group and call them all sexist.
Dumb fuck.
"To tap into the popularity of gaming" sums up why these things are bound to fail. They don't give a fuck about games. Just milking the fans.
Thanks Frosk. You won't be missed. Peace.
And that Adam turd
@@Sir_Catnip is that the guy that hates conservatives and says they should "drink pee"?
@@Forbidden_0ne Yep exactly....dude is atypical hateful woke leftoid
G4 was bought out in like 2004, give or take. It was a great channel before and a little while after, then major changes happened soon after the but out. It uses to be a nerdy tech and gaming channel, then they went the MTV route. I'm surprised it was even still around.
G4 bought TechTV in 2004, mainly to get X-Play. They ruined Screen Savers, then turned it into Attack of the Show. G4 ruined the content TechTV had.
Yeah I thought it was cancelled ages ago
"You've ruined MY day." - Representing G4, even admitting not being the one writing scripts, therefore presenting a lot of other people's work, then claiming to speak for diversity, therefore even more people: and that's the conclusion?
Long ago people knew how to divide their job from their ideologies using a filter that we used to call education, now there is no filter.
G4 was ahead of it’s time but as soon as the internet started getting more popular with the increase of twitch streamers and overall game streaming. It started to dwindle fast. I can imagine their audience started dropping overnight at one point. Them trying to bring it back was just a failure from the get go. It’ll never feel like it did back in the day.
January 2022: If you don't like it don't watch it"
October 2022: Shut down
Go Woke Go Broke
4:35 you can generally see the disappointment on Adam's face when she had attitude about her script not being put in on time.
“Olivia munn and Morgan Webb weren’t there to be easy on the eyes for you!”
Cue price is right failure tone
Olivia Munn, the blonde pron chick, Layla something and .......Skeletor. I miss AoTS
The amaranth situation shows that no one touches grass or has a real relationship anymore. Stay off the internet in all shapes for a year and go find a relationship then come back a year later and you'll understand much better what the real world is like.
That's fucking impossible in this day and age. People like this don't need relationships they need help.
It's impossible to not be objectified. If someone thinks that they will not be objectified because they show themselves in a non-sexual way they are wrong, they will just be objectified by a different group of people that want that. We all do it and we all are subjects of it. As social animals we want to belong to a groups and objectify ourselves accordingly. And I find it annoying when someone preaches about how bad objectification is when they do it too.
Man all I can take from this is the Witcher 3 had some of the best music ever.
I want to see the original uncut Frosk rant footage. I want to see the co-hosts' faces as Frost went off script.
They were supporting and encouraging it the entire time it was going on.... this is what happens when woke is involved in anything
They literally clapped bro
@@DeathmetalPersian They clapped like seals, but the segment was edited so there's no telling how much editing trickery was done making it worse. One guy, at least, realized what just happened. g4 might have had a chance of recovering but they double, triple, quadrupled down and died on their strawman hill.
@@vangoghsseveredear They have these things called "work contracts" that say they will be fired for causing major disturbances with the show, you wouldn't have said anything either.
@@RobotMasterSplash fuck that, I would have left as soon as the first politically charged corporate brainwashing meeting happened.
There's no big mystery to it. They relaunched a TV station that LITERALLY ALREADY FAILED ONCE without much being changed, several more years removed from the time when television was actually relevant to younger generations, and competing with an entire established ecosystem of popular CZcams creators and Twitch streamers. I thought it was doomed to fail from the nanosecond they announced it was coming back.
The yasssing behind her is so cringe, if she is going for a serious rant. You can let her rant, but like bro talk about singing to a choir.
Not to ignore the fact that asmon is doing a similar thing, but it rly hits different when u hear em.
Ok, but here's the entire counterpoint to 30 minutes of video about Frost.
If you are one of this people, you switch and don't care. If you are not one of this people, you get annoyed, switch and don't care. Part of "how to give a message" is the platform. Turning your studio to a battlefield against your audience is objectively being a shit host, no matter gender, race or whatever else.
That's why she can go to hell and she killed G4TV.
"Everything woke turns to shit" -god emperor
Dude, he couldn't be more right about that....Trump being against wokeness and being based is why they don't like him and try their hardest to take him down
@@Sir_Catnip 100% and that's why twitter and reddit went so hard after 2016 and censored any convos the otherside was having.
@@mike4088 yep exactly, they were calling everything "misinformation" .... The truth is, everything THEY were putting out was the real misinformation
Femmy gamers on their way to prove you right
No wonder her script was "lost"
I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking they TRIED to give her an out behind the scenes. It could’ve been swept under a rug MUCH easier if she’d been “off the cuff”. But she intentionally wrote a preachy, unentertaining speech.
"Theres nothing wrong with it, its their show, they can run it into the ground if they want to"
preferring attractive females over unattractive is not sexist. it’s a preference. saying a woman can’t do a job because she’s a woman is sexist. solid difference
If you look at Frosk right at the end of her rant, you can see a mild panic set in as she realises shes gone too far. Her microexpressions give a lot away
i thought she was holding back her tears haha
Am I the only one who misses Elden ring asmongold ft McConnell
I think there were a lot of issues with G4, on top of the Frosk thing:
I think the issue with G4 is their content was really bad, it relied on the personalities of their hosts, which most of them was just bad, bland, and dull. Otherwise, you can easily get game reviews, DnD game streams, attack of the show like content anywhere else via CZcams or Twitch at this point. Game reviews are a dime a dozen and most don't even go to publisher based reviewers anymore. So their whole show format was not only very outdated for TV, but it also copied what many others have done better and with actual personality to boot.
I watched their DnD games recently on G4, the day before the cancellation announcement, and boy was it dull and boring. I saw some guy do dead pan bad acting of with Frosk just standing there in a dark room. It was like watching a group of office workers who hardly know each other play a game, with awkward silence in-between mandatory conversation. Dull. I could easily flip onto Critical Role with minor and some main celebs playing DnD and actually having a good time together, making jokes, being dramatic and selling me their story instead.
So I think that's the biggest issue, G4 thought they would copy everything else online and the hosts would be so cool and fun that it would work. They didn't remotely make new or original content either, for a format like TV that requires it. I think they should have done what TechTV did. Be the OG Discovery channel like channel for Tech and Gaming. Do live streams of Cons all over the country, do documentaries on technology, new and old, do game reviews, anime reviews, cosplay reviews and shows, comicbook shows, etc. Be educational and entertaining. Then you can do the DnD thing, daily news coverage. viral video shows, and stuff. Content to balance out maybe some of the dead weight some of the hosts were to begin with. No offense to them, but some people just aren't exciting or charasmatic to be in front of a camera all the time carrying a show.
Then the Frosk thing, to me, I will say I think what she had to say was legit and good overall,; she was apparently addressing some serious issues in the gaming industry etc. BUT I don't agree with how she did it, and how G4 handled it. Even Asmon said it, she came across as belittling of the viewership and self-rightous.
And it came out of no where, like when everyone is having a good time at a party and then someone who has a issue just takes a shit in the middle of the floor - it was like that. Wrong place, wrong time. Now maybe something did happen before hand that made her feel like she had to say something - I dunno what happened before filming or whatever, but G4 failed to react to her obviously as she speaks about her script being not uploaded, so they knew what she was going to do. I think G4 should have done the right thing and had her address her issues and the like on a special, maybe a seperate show that explores those issues, allows for women and men to talk about the topics and concerns, etc. I would have preferred that, a more mature and actually beneficial route. And maybe it would give those who simply don't care, to not watch that on its own time slot etc. I think the topic is obviously something to be talked about and the like, esp with Blizzard having yet another sexual assualt/harassment lawsuit going on. So there is still something to be said there.
SO there's my long rant. I think Frosk was icing on the cake to turn off a lot of people, but there were tons of other issues with how the channel was ran.
Men are interested in women's looks, women are interested in both men's and women's looks, that's why women's looks are more judged.
froskurinn's rage killed it, easy as that
xplay with the 3 dudes was good. They had good topics and the reviews the black hokage, the tall white guy and young guy. They never had high views and the productions where too high for the show contents. I also liked the austin show and donna advice was good.
All she had to do was talk about RDO. Lack of content online is a legit complaint a lot of the fans have that still gets dismissed to this day. There's a time and place for everything, people like her are pure cringe.
Get Woke, Go Broke.
True joke
OG G4 was good had gaming news/ gaming reviews/ game play and hot girls it was twitch before twitch... and now we have this...