Asmongold Reacts to "Why Ninja's Career DIED" | by SunnyV2
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- Asmongold finds out the shocking truth about the rise and fall of the most popular Fortnite player Ninja, a man synonymous with gaming.
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Why Ninja's Career Died (Fortnite)
• Why Ninja's Career Die...
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I love how the story is his career died but h'e actually just went from like Superstar to regular A-list top level streamer level
@@bobhanson1037 for real, IDK how you could say some ones career died when they still make money off of what they do, show know signs of regret for down sizing, and has the fucking balls to play FF11 for months. Most twitch streamers if they pulled a stunt like that would actually kill there career, but Ninja just goes back t play fortnite and gets 20k views like its nothing.
That's why I don't really like Sunny's stuff lol. He makes videos like these for people who just went from making $5mil a year to $4mil and labels the video as, "Why _____'s career died".
fr like my guy ninja happily averaging 10-20k viewers like how is that a bad situation at all lmfao
yea, -90% viewer is a shocking number, but he still got 10k viewer. its still a considerably large channel.
Its like you see Mark Zuckerburg donated 99% of his wealth to charity and think oh now he is poor ass. but no, his 1% is still billions of dollar and still is 99% richer than most of the people in the world.
@@javlin8506 probably because they are all little children? I wouldn’t want to to be a famous streamer if every single person watching is 8-10 years old
Ninja got the money of a LIFETIME of streaming in the span of a few years. He speedrunned the game calles "life" and now he has the rest of hi youth to enjoy the extra content.
He is a supreme sucess
But tthe mental health damage is un reverseable.
@@Ironforge1337 Unreversable? Definitely Healable and while it might take time you can definitely recover from trauma
He only has $25 mil.....that's not really alot....
Va dim, you must be 12 and have no concept of money
imagine having all that money and still being a beta with that kind of girlfriend xD supreme my ass xD
Ninja could cut all ties to the outside world and still live like a king for the rest of his life. Streaming for him went from a hobby to a job and back to a hobby in less than 2 years.
He will be back, they always run out of money
@@johnnyboygriffin5764true
Right, with the benefit of never having to worry about financial situations, unless of course like many he’s foolish with his blessings
Video: Finishes 1 sentence
Asmon: Initiating 5 Minute Monologue-Protocol
Bro i am trying to sleep stop uploading stuff
🤣! Dank
31:27 “bro I bet y’all hate this coz I keep pausing” ahahahahhahah that’s the only reason I watch Asmond, can’t go 10 seconds without interjecting hahahah!
@@poopoohead7427 he definitely plays both sides of the court.. 😂
how the hell does he upload 5 videos a day
Learn discipline and problem solved.
If that’s what a dead career looks like I’ll take it every day of the week 😂 lots of weird hate in this video Sunny made.
seriously he seems weirdly salty
big true, making bad content doesn't make you a bad person, believe it or not but not everyone wants to make internet content for their entire life.
It's all in perspective
just bc he's got money from when he was relevant doesn't mean he's doing good now.
his career is clearly dying off, having bank doesn't change this fact.
nobody is salty, when you lose 90% of your entire platform, I'd say that's worth covering on a channel that seems to just cover this sort of downward spiral
@@TemmiePlays The video was not totally objective fact. When the creator uses words like "fake piece of shit" to describe Ninja, then viewers are reasonable to assume he has some personal angle/judgement, aka salty.
You are absolutely correct. Good thumbnails are so important. So many times I have clicked a video just because of liking the thumbnail. in fact, I have actually not watched a video because of the thumbnail before. As for Ninja, I think he is funny. I think what killed his channel is too many interviews and becoming too involved in popularity that he did not seem authentic anymore. He didn't practice on Fortnite and his gaming skills fell behind others. That is what I like about your channel, actually. You do what you want, play what you like, you share your opinions regardless of what others think, when you see something wrong you say something. Plus you are very knowledgeable about many different things. You know what youre talking about for sure. I still think 10k views is a lot to me and I'd love that many lol
I feel like ninja is actually quite professional and conscious about his influence on children. He honestly probably got a ton of money and burnt out and decided he didn't need to make content as much or work as hard. There's nothing wrong with him just enjoying his success. And I think if he really wanted to be relevant again he has the skills as a content creator to do it. Maybe not to the same success as the first time but he is a professional.
Weird that's it was salty. He made his money by capitalizing and leveraging the peak of the popularity of the game. He made millions and millions and now he can just do what he wants. He made his point and what he is now doesn't take away from what was. He knew where his window of opportunity was and ended. That was a good play. All popularity comes and goes.
“Everyone gets lucky sometimes, but people who work harder get lucky more often.” Quote of the year
Im paraphrasing here, but i still believe that Rich Campbell quote, "You need to work hard so you have the tools necessary when luck comes your way."
Nah. Loads work hard, it’s luck. But that’s fine, it’s winning the lotto.
The real quote is "Luck is just skill showing up for an unscheduled appointment"
It's crazy what he said about going all in and then quitting cold turkey because that's literally what peak performers such as professional athletes do; they cycle between maximum focus and maximum relaxation because this leads to stronger and more consistent states of flow.
I just never thought anyone would apply it to streaming of all things lol
People who work hard don't get lucky more often. They're just less likely to miss out on an opportunity. It's "Taking a chance" vs "Not taking a chance". Whether or not you actually get said chance is still down to luck. There are countless people that worked hard and still haven't made it. If there's a way to "get lucky more often", you're not talking about luck anymore. Luck is inherently out of one's control. That's why it's luck.
This was a really good upload; I was always curious about his "downfall." I joined Twitch right when I started playing FN at launch to watch him play to learn from his playstyle (which could not be matched by myself kekw), not knowing that was his big boom. He was always entertaining though
His audience grew up.
27:59 I'm becoming so fond of Asmon's worldview. He has such a combative chat, yet he always maintains a relatively cool head while sticking to his guns. He made great points about Ninja here, and the toxic nature of an audience that wants what a celebrity has.
Ninja is not a celebrity...
He is a streamer...
Also, asmongold's chat is almost same toxic as xqc
@@blipblop1112 "just a streamer" doesn't get all the non-gaming world camera time that Ninja has. Do you even have a clue how many interviews and cameos he has done outside the gaming world? From what I've seen, nearly every streaming chat is highly toxic unless it's very highly modded.
@@blipblop1112 the difference is, he not toxic, that why he more relatable than qxc or xcq
As of relatively recently, I've noticed and come to admire Asmon's chastising his chat, if he catches them being too toxic or stepping over whatever line.
@@blipblop1112 ce·leb·ri·ty
noun
a famous person. by definition he is a celebrity. he is a well known figure both by gamers and non gamers all over the world. whether you like it or not, for good or bad.
For some reason sunnyv2 sounded personally upset af ninja towards the second half of the video lmao
ikr, he sounds like a little bitch lmao.
He probably was a fanboy and is salty that ninja changed
Its just how the video is made to be structured. Intensely harsh.
1st and only video I've seen of Asmon's in its entirety and I'm glad I watched it. Great commentary.
Ninja cashing in on his popularity is the same as athletes doing commercials. Their shelf life is very finite so get that $$ while you can. Streamers won’t be relevant any longer than pro athletes
Skill based game streamers have a lifetime that is determined by the popularity of their game and their skill gap to the rest of the community.
Personality based variety streamers last longer because they can go from game to game and retain popularity without the pressure of maintaining top level gameplay.
And ninja wasn't even that good at fortnight. Hes literally only famous for getting drake on stream
i think this is why Tim is so popular. He is an average or a bit better player, but his personality is why so much people watch him.
@@phatymcdaddy nah, he was good. You're in denial if you don't think he was good. By the numbers, he was objectively very good.
Can't remember where it was from, but I recall Asmongold stating something similar, about how if you're only gimmick as a wow streamer was dishing out the biggest numbers, you're gonna have a harder time swapping to other categories/variety gaming, as opposed to someone whose built up a community based on their personality. The risks vs. rewards of going niche or broad.
You can start out drawing in viewers by your skill in the game, but with a likeable enough personality the viewers will follow you to other content. I don't see XQCOW playing very much Overwatch anymore.
Ninja is at a point now where hes already won and is enjoying his life. The people who said he fell off are crazy. You would have to be insane to expect 1 person to hold that much popularity indefinitely in this day and age.
Ninja experienced the Facebook effect: going up, up, up until you hit the ceiling and you bounce back down. It was impossible for Ninja to grow any more. Up until his peak he'd had a net gain in followers/viewers. When he finally ran out of people who could potentially be interested in his content, the amount of people who left stayed at the same level while the amount of people who joined stagnated, resulting in a net loss of followers/viewers.
Love your takes on this stuff. Very genuine & well thought out
Everyone needs to be honest. If they made five million dollars in a single month, would they continue to put the same amount of effort into their career as before or would they suddenly feel liberated to pursue a better work-life balance? I wouldn't say that Ninja's career "died." I think he took early partial retirement, and I can't blame him for it.
five mil a month? id exactly do that for one month
I know I would
@@rouk2621 That's before tax etc. Probably receive 2 mill tops. And depends on where you live, it's enough for 10 years living middle upper class with family and children.
@@yudistiraliem135 no shot. 10 years? Maybe if you spend stupidly.
Go buy a house for 500k. Buy a car, pay shit off. Zero chance you have less than a mill left after buying everything you need to basically not have expenses.
Budget yourself for fun and food over like 30 years or whatever and youre set for life.
If you can't make 2 million dollars set you up for life, you're the problem lol
@@Devilforce988 would 5 million put you in a position where you'd feel the need to make more?
Holy cow, I would kill to have a “dead career” like Ninja.
Man made dozens of millions, if he doesn't go on a stupid spending wreckfest he’ll have money to live comfortably for the rest of his life and have his heirs fighting over it lol
If he's smart, or has someone older giving him some good advice, he'll take the majority of that money and invest it with a good firm, then live a comfortable life off of the earnings. Any additional money that he makes from doing whatever he wants would be irrelevant with millions invested properly.
@@Xoulrath_ exactly
"dead career" is absolutely correct.
Like... yeah... his youtube viewership dropped by 97%.
It is still 4-5 million views. Thats a "dead career" i could ABSOLUTELY live with
@@Xoulrath_ Bro, you learn to manage your own money or you end up losing it to someone else.
Dont let a firm lose your money..you can do that all on your own ;)
Their job is to make money...not make you money
@@InzideEntertainment Nah, I know there will always be someone who could manage more effectively than me. Rather just hire some jew to do it for me.
Ninja marketed his content to 7-8 year olds...they turned 10 and his career died
Totally agree with Asmon on the conclusion, Also love the last peices of wisdom at the end too. Quality Content.
Asmon is the first guy I watch that discusses life and particulars situations and morals so much, and mixed with gaming, that's super interesting to me and that's why I like listening to all your videos. I'm don't dig watching people play games as much, I prefer doing it myself, but listening to a gamer talk about important topics is somehow relatable content! Thank you! Thank you for often reminding people to stop hating on everyone and just enjoy the game (life, whatever they are doing), and for defending morality and the good that's still out there.
If you like that type of content, then you should def check out Destiny. He does exactly what you're talking about, but even more so than Asmon (not saying he's a *better* streamer than Asmon, its just the type of content that he engages in). There was actually a Destiny debate that Asmon hopped into to backup Destiny. It was probably a couple of years ago now but still fun to watch.
I feel the same way. I've never watched Asmond play a video game, but I love his videos. He seems like a good dude
I agree… I’m not much of a fan of asmon but this video is amazing… seems like a genuine dude and smart about these topics
And at the same he's no idealist and when he says that there will always be greedy selfish a***oles, he's not saying it to be a doomer or a d4ck but to dispel wishful thinking.
@@godursolamehahaxd9909 Just curious, how open-minded is Destiny when it comes to debating moderates/right-wing?
normally SunnyV2's videos are unbiased, analytical videos of social media events For the most part but this video feels more like a personal attack against Ninja.
NINJA did be a dick to tons of people and such
I believe authenticity does matter a lot more than you're thinking. The audience knows Doc is in character. Ninja (to me) always put himself out there as just himself and not a persona, so when you try to say some bs like "get back to roots" and it is obviously a lie the viewers notice and react.
16:09 Who is the guy with the hand tattoos & forward hat? I'm asking because I'm a San Diego Gulls fan myself (that's the logo on his hat) and did NOT expect to see that in this type of video.
FaZe Banks
You dropped so many great streaming nuggets in this video. It's like a 101 course on some of the most important things streamers need to focus on. Thanks for the great content!
Ninjas master class does it better
Agreed Dice, and many real life psychology truths. This piece was full of advice across the board. To think his age to mine he's experienced in life communications.
@@generalconsumer9520 you just said absolutely nothing yet so many words
@Yessuh thanks Confucius. Very enlightening. We are glad you graced us with your invaluable insight.
My replies can be condensed down and someone of basic intelligence would need to follow the original post and my reply for context. This would assist in detailing who I'm talking about, what, and why. I could detail it out but then it's more than people want to read. They should've done the work that landed them in this reply stream anyways.
The thing is if you're confused then ask a question. I'm not going to penalize you for that. To contribute nothing other than to say you feel someone is contributing nothing. If you're just a troll then get back under your bridge.
Asmond doesn't read these though he'd be the one to understand them. I seem to think his audience has an average IQ but then I forgot where I am so I will apologize for that. Friggin' YT is becoming the Twitter, these days, it seems.
Oh, that's what it is... You're upset Elon runs Twitter now so you've all flocked to CZcams. That explains a ton. Your post did have something meaningful and it was to inform us all Dem trolls are on YT now.
@@generalconsumer9520 i guarantee that dude didn't read ur reply and you know why? cuz i didn't either after reading the word salad you made with your first reply. if you can't explain something simply than you don't understand it well enough.
u remind me of that jimmy neutron "sodium chloride" video, go pull it up and your monitor will magically transform into a mirror for 1 min
To your last point you made. Luck is 100% a huge factor in ninjas story. However the whole point of luck is to be able to position yourself in a place where the luck you get can propel you up. Many times people get lucky. But the change is insignificant because they aren’t in a place to allow the luck to make change
That's kinda exactly what he said, in different words.
Luck and a little help from the CIA
LuCk iS aBiGfAcToR
asmon you've made some great points in this vid keep it up!
about tumbnails psychology, it also has a it reason to do them like that, youtube runs through algorithms, it has a machine learning code to ranking videos, it can try to figure out what about a video is through the tumb nail, so it is alot relevant
The dude got a 50 million dollar contract. No one in their right mind could call that a "failed career". The guy who made the "Why Ninja's Career DIED" vid comes across as angry and jealous tbh.
@@yololoyo7379 true
Yeah, the later half of the video especially. Narrator just came across bitter and negative.
What are you talking about?
Having prior success does not mean you're career is still active and alive.
Yes... he made a fuck ton of money but his career is effectively dead.
Weather or not someone is jealous of it doesn't diminish the fact that it's true.
You can have a billion dollars for all i care but if you're sitting on your ass and doing nothing for the rest of your life then you have a dead career.
Think sometimes... it's healthy.
@@yololoyo7379 Pewds still averages millions of views on every video.
That is not comparable.
It would be like comparing Ninja to xQc.
It's a dumb comparison.
Ninja does not pull in the same clout he used cause he's faded into irrelevancy.
It tends to happen when you jump platform multiple times.
Pull up his stream next time and tell me if he has even 10% of the viewers and subs he used to pull.
And sponsor payouts are linked HEAVILY to the amount of people you bring to check out their brand.
It's not like every clown gets a sponsor and suddenly makes millions lmao.
@@mahchestro9144 Ninja makes an estimated 700k a year from his twich stream. And look at his youtube channel: millions of views every month.
That isn't a dead career, man. He may not be as popular as he used to be, but is still working, and he is still forking in a big income . . . in addition to his 50 mil contract.
He is still getting richer and richer.
Did we all forget what kind of bag did he get switching from twitch to mixer? lol
He made more money then 99,9% of us together will make together lol
more like 99.999%
How much was it?
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 50 millions
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 Rumored to be 30-50 million which is double what he signed for because of Mixer shutting down before his contract ended and Should being around 20-30.
@@vuldren Pretty sure he got the total amount the moment Mixer shutdown.
1:25 Yep. Hitting massive numbers like that doesn't make loss seem impossible, it makes it inevitable. The public eye of sauron doesn't stay on a person, forever. It ALWAYS moves on, so your best move is to find the thing you truly want to do for the rest of your life, and use the short term fame and income to bring that to pass.
I agree about the thumbnail bit. Think of a thumbnail as like a cover to a book. If you go to a library or an E-book store what are the things that catch your attention? The covers. If all the books had no covers they would all look the same because it would just be rows and rows of text. In this case it would be just lists and lists of titles and one could say just read the titles. the problem is that most people are to lazy to read titles one by one. If you have a thumbnail that catches your eye you are going to be more enclined to read the title or click the video
Its hard to deny his success. You may not like the guy, but he got to the top quickly and now can just relax all his life
I deny his success. See that was easy.
he was hand picked to be popular. Drake is an occult shill.
yeah lot of people just want bad to happen to him, these are the same type of people who were cried their hearts out when someone insulted them back in the good olf days and were too salty to just mute other people. pathetic bunch really
5 Million for one month? I knew why his career died. He beat the game, the game of life. He's done, thats why
Btw I never knew Ninja or any other fortnite streamer, but the hate he recieved by his audience and this Video is just funny.
He beat life? Huh
@@clay7182 he beat the rat race, as long as he doesn't blow all his money insanely fast, he is setup for life and will never have to work a day.
As far as the day to day grind goes - Ninja won.
@@Th3BadThing too bad, global economy will get reset by 2025 and all money will be erased.
honestly he was so fun to watch when he was playing halo
Most of us have known him since he was a snot-nosed little brat in the Halo scene.
This guy was everywhere. Talk shows, guest appearances, I mean his face was all over Taki's bags.
I do love how he breaks down the thumbnail formula. It's actually surprising how many people don't understand the psychology behind it all
No.
Asmon is right about the disconnect between streamer and viewer when the streamer "upgrades" his life because they don't seem as relatable anymore as they used to be. Asmon is a very very very smart individual. He knew that probably a long time ago that's why he never "upgraded" his Asmongold persona. And probably because he really is a nonmaterialistic, chill dude.
Yeah, for most people you cant get good if you don't put in at least 8 hours a day. I won 2nd place in eu in some niche jka mode and I played every day 10 hours a day.... The only exception I know is Stephano in SC2, he was a machine only two hours a day and still got results.
Cheers to everyone who ever played Jedi academy mb2:)
u right. people that fail would rather bring someone down than to fix themselves and succeed
I will admit, the talk about Ego is pretty thought provoking, because I don't realize when I'm doing it myself. I always wondered why I had a deep confliction on why I would become envious over big successful streamers or CZcamsrs; and I think Asmon hit it right on the head. It's hard for most viewers to relate, or even empathize with a lot of these successful content creators and their plight over "not making enough numbers", and I suppose it comes across as them just looking at their viewers/fans as just numbers to them, which makes us believe they have a big ego; and we want to knock down that ego because we believe "they wouldn't be anything without me/us/the fans".
It comes off like they're taking their community for granted, and that might not be the case, but it feels like that for us who aren't IN that kind of situation to worry about things like statistics and analytics. We really have no right to "Ego check" others, when in turn, our the only reason we're doing that is because of our own fragile and insecure Ego. It's difficult, because we can't help seeing others extremely successful than us, that cry and complain on how hard their lives are, especially over numbers, when they're raking in thousands and thousands of dollars every week/month. While most of us watching(15-30 year olds, like Asmon said) are barely making ends meet, with our dead end jobs, wishing and envying the lives of people who can just play their favorite games all day, all week, all month; and still make a profit.
I don't watching streamers either, but I think the viewers have as much a right to "ego check" others as streamers have the right to have a big ego. Couldn't it be that the only reason streamers don't like getting "ego checked" is because they are also insecure? I kind of agree with Asmon's point, but at the same time it feels like he's putting all of the blame on the viewers while defending any stupid behavior that a streamer might partake in.
Good take and input Asmongold. SunnyV2 and too many people do not realise the different ways life can take you. Also important as Asmon said, always secure your bag. As long as your are making that money legally and not destroying lives along the way then don't mind the whining children and naysayers
SunnyV2 is a king. Asmond is a greasy haired bitch. You wouldn't know a bag if it hit you in the face.
Sunnyv2 was being salty
I recently discovered your content from looking up anything and everything related to Diablo IV before it came out and I’ve become a huge fan of yours! I’ve always thought about and wanted to become a streamer making content on CZcams, streaming on twitch or something similar and having podcasts but watching this video I’ve decided I probably shouldn’t…I don’t play any of the games that most streamers seem to play to get popular enough to make enough money to pay bills and survive lol…I’m 42 and been gaming since I was 5 and have a lot of knowledge in games/movies/tv shows…but realized none of that matters after watching this lol…plus I’m too old, very few streamers or content creators in this field are over 40 and watching this video was very enlightening on what kind of personality among other things to become successful in this field and a lot of luck and luck has never been on my side lol. I’d end up getting 5 followers if I’m lucky because I mostly play rpgs like final fantasy, Diablo, dragon age etc., survival horror, 3rd person action like uncharted, tomb raider and god of war to games like gta and dark souls games but I’m nowhere near as good as lee me solo her lol…I don’t play many fps games at all or battle royal games…only fps games I used to play were halo and doom. For over a decade I’ve wanted to get into streaming and making content talking about games and movies but guess it wasn’t in the cards for me. Sorry for the long post! Keep up the great work Asmongold, you’re my favorite streamer to watch and listen to!
Such a great video everyone should watch especially streamers
And you're a hero, Asmon. You put up with the most stupid bunch of people and useless comments on your streams, always being authentic and true to yourself
Soon, sunny2 is gonna make a video about asmongold retirement when he literally didn't decide to retired..
He's a hero? Don't you think you're being a little to liberal with that word?
@@patrickdenison6172 It's funny because your comment is exactly what was being referred to... useless. Thank you for providing such a great example for us.
@@CatNipSmoker XD hahahaha that comment made my day
@@geropino9480 Subscriptron buds! Sort of...
Ninja made enough money to not work another day. He traveled the world, met celebrity's. And he has so many things he can do now then play video games. He literally made it doing what we love and I give him props
I look up to you man, I’m small time streamer my self and you made a ton of good points in this video..
I enjoyed ninja the most in his H5 pro league days, something just changed with his content when he started on fortnite, of course I'm not a big fan of the game either so it could be bias. H5 had a great fan base and it was really fun to watch. Imo Halo doesn't need BR.
Can I just say refraining from profanity when you know your audience is kids is a pretty decent thing to do.
I love how people can just make random content and 'win' .. alot of these people genuinely enjoy what they do and people love watching
@@HDGaminTutorials I think the sitting in their own shit and piss is a you thing
@@HDGaminTutorials well if you can entertain people and perform in the game (lol) it's a solid form of entertainment. I wonder can you laugh and hold a certain level of appreciation for others without toxicity? And play games at a high level? If you can then by all means, do it!
@@HDGaminTutorials amazed at what? If you use your brain just a tiny bit, you will come to realize that the whole entertainment industry is exactly like that. You think a star actor is being overworked while on set or wat? They still get paid millions though. And you felt the need to point the finger at the few top streamers/youtubers, oddly specific.
@@kklap3219 people also fail to realize entertainment can have a huge mental toll on people even if it isn't physically demanding.
@@HDGaminTutorials sport exist 🤦🏻
The problem is like Asmon said keeping up that high or level or money never goes away save for rainy day. Happens all the time Hollywood or music,athletes.
What happens I feel alot for media is they under estimate their views with fans...
I rather have less fans but who consistently come support,you don't just have to talk about wow,a game and depend on 1 thing. Asmon you have transitioned out of wow to talking about other games,life,your steaks,people get to know the persona not just a one trick pony. And will keep coming back similar to DrDisrespect.
While you see other COD streamers need to play it for views being human is part of it relatable.
Dude you sounded just like shroud, I love shroud so much. Im new to your videos but, mad respect bro. im really enjoying it
The nail in the coffin for Ninja was when he tried to get everyone to floss on New Years Eve.
i love your content man, constant, authentic and solid, i also like your take on how streaming and content creation works
The last advice is life changing
If you trade the time you spend watching youtube. For time working on your dream. It will come true ;-)
@@ivannasha5556 Ironic
Asman your really good at commenting on culture surrounding gaming past present and future love your videos
Cant catch streams due to work taking up my life in these hard times.
Thank you Asmongold or whoever uploads this, really helps me throughout my shifts.
lol work. For what. a Abusive Government who spends your money on more totalitarism and war? Congratulations youve been scammed
just stumbled on your content. i knew you were a popular streamer. really good stuff. your insight is actually really solid. surprised you don't get offered a consulting job tbh
You'll probably understand better when you've watched longer.
He owns a streamer organization. He hires the consultants.
He’s a smart guy, owns his own organization
@Jay Bee no one does.
Bro, it used to be my routine to jump on twitch the second I saw the notification, fucking jam to the intro music, and have you on in the background while I worked. Then you went to zachrawrr… you came back but you don’t jump on Asmongold consistently anymore.
I am only half way through this but for me the end came when he was rooftop in New York on New Year's Eve trying to get the world to do backpack boy to complete dead silence.
This video was like a life lesson, on how to look at things outside your perspective
"I get up early... 8am" XD I chose the wrong career path. That's sleeping in in my world lol
He deserves for his career to end fully. Anyone remember that one time in Fortnite when he was bragging that he was the best and getting killed about 2 minutes later? He tried and succeeded to get that random player banned... For cheating. The random player released footage showing that he didn't cheat, and Ninja still said he did. The random player can play again. Ninja is quite a menace
Why was there like a dead pixel on the video for such. Long time?
The thing is that people hold content creators to a different standard than they do conventional celebrities. There are plenty of extremely successful celebrities that also do sponsorships and commercials etc constantly, and not only does this not mean their careers are dying, but no one ever complains about it because it's almost expected, or at least not of any surprise, and because they're so successful, they're not seen as relatable. Whereas streamers are often doing the exact same thing the viewer is watching, I.E playing their favourite game, so there's a level of relatability there, and because the viewer can't be as successful as the content creator they start to hate on any success they have because they feel like they are entitled to it too as they're playing the game, or at least as big a fan of the game, just as much as the streamer is.
watched you for years and it's your vibe that I come back to and enjoy, not the games you play or how good you are. ✌️
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That's some words to live by. True and real.
There is definitely luck involved in lots of cases , BUT effort is also required to make it or at lest TRULY make it. With no effort and good luck they’ll likely die our quick, but but good effort you can still succeed but there’s still a bit of luck in you being initially discovered, or else it’s a super slow burn to succeed. With both: that’s how you get truly big on social media
Asmongold I just wanna say I enjoy your videos and streams, you have a healthy mindset and I just appreciate the influence it has on me. I’m sure others feel the same. thank you for being you
I agree with him on pretty much everything except that bit about “why do you feel he needs an ego check? I think people that do that, need an ego check” thing. Chat made an actual valid point, that he just brushed off. If Ninja was flouting his money, bragging, and being a generally sucky person, people have every right to dislike or meme on him. If a coworker was an asswhole to you, then you’re probably not gonna been the nicest to them either (ignoring the idea overwhelming them with kindness, which doesn’t really work in this situation with a streaming personality). The point being, I don’t think you can really blame people for hating on someone who acts poorly, and I feel Asmon was sorta deflecting that point cause it’s something that could easily happen to anyone in streaming (even him).
So the fact that ninja expressed that he had a lot of money and enjoyed it, makes him a sucky person? This is exactly what Asmon means. Why do YOU care about that unless it makes you feel bad that somebody else has so much more than you. It's just very insecure behaviour.
Me personally, I stopped watching ninja because he lost his authenticity going pg13 and I also found it weak that he let the hate get to him so much.
@@ilikecommenting6849 ummm, didn’t expect a response like this on a 2 week old comment, but here we go. I never said he couldn’t be happy with his money, or even talk about some. That’s a stupid argument to take. I’m referring to him bragging about how much money he has continually, and the attitude that comes along with that. Markiplier legit just did an interview video, where he talked about how much money he has, and even made a point of saying (at length) it was insane the shear amount he had. But I’d assume that others (myself included ) don’t find him saying that as annoying, cause it wasn’t said in the context of bragging or with a stance of arrogance. More in the context of being grateful. And more over, where exactly does your stance end? Like if someone is doing something that generally is frowned upon (like bragging about how much money they make) then at what point do you say “I find this person annoying, and I don’t like them”. We can argue how much personal opinion changes where you’d stand on the subject, but the objective FACT is that a large amount of people felt this way, and they have every right to not like him for those reasons. You don’t have a supervisor “take” just cause you’re going off your own personal view of what’s annoying or what Asmo said in the vid. I could just as easily ask why do YOU felt like you needed to comment on something that was from to weeks ago? Wouldn’t it have been easier just to ignore it? Or did you just not like something I said and wanted to voice your dislike/disagreement with it?…like how people started to voice their dislike for Ninja, cause of the bragging. Not liking something and being insecure is not the same thing, and practically anyone could tell you that. I personally will likely never have anywhere near the amount of money he has, and I’m ok with that. That doesn’t mean I wanna hear about how much money he has over and over again. Cause that behavior is generally annoying. One last side thing of note, if you’re wanting to make point against someone’s stance on a subject, don’t try to underhandedly belittle them like implying they have a “very insecure mindset/behavior ”. Doing so only lessens your point cause you’ve already lowered yourself to throwing insults. If you’re ok with that aspect of Ninja’s behavior, that is 100% valid on your end. But the counter stance of others not liking that same behavior is just as valid. And unless you’re a psychologist and have interviewed every single person that says they get annoyed by Ninja’s behavior, I don’t think you really have the right to determine if people are acting out of insecurity.
@@jordanadams9098 I replied because I generally like commenting and having discourse (see my name). Back to the point. First, it's very important to note that I didn't call YOU insecure but the behaviour. The difference is very important.
Idk if most people don't like people who brag about money. Rappers do it all the time and it makes them money. But let's say most people don't like it. What exactly is bragging about money? Is it repeatedly stating how much you have? Or is it more? I personally don't care when people mention or flaunt their wealth. So I'm trying to understand, why does it bother YOU so much? Is it because most people around you frown upon it so you automatically do to? Or do you have your own reasons? Generally curious. On it's face, and I might be tone deaf here, I really don't see a reason to not like somebody because he 'brags' (which I dont know how you define as) about money. Would you not like someone if he bragged about candy?
@@ilikecommenting6849 …. Ok then I’ll ask why you like commenting on stuff and causing discourse (which the discourse thing is something else people generally frown on)? If you keep asking why about every aspect of what makes a person like or dislike something then you devolve the conversation into either philosophy or psychology. And I’m not getting into either for answer that is at the base level ,”well individuals have their own likes and dislikes”. On a lesser note, sorry but the implication of “insecurity” thing was pretty blatant. So you either worded it poorly initially or are now just arguing semantics. You can’t just point to someone wearing a red shirt and say “People who wear red clothes are weird ” and expect it not to be interpreted that way xP. Anyways, I don’t especially know what answer you want from me. If you do a google search on the word “bragging” you’d find pages and pages of the negative connotations associated with the behavior. Are you wanting me to somehow articulate an explanation of a concept that had been looked at negatively throughout human history (Legitimately am pretty sure there’s even ancient Greek stories on the subject)? Tbh, this conversation actually confuses me. It’s like trying to explain the color blue to someone that’s never seen it before. Simply put, most general people don’t like bragging. The level of tolerance of it varies from person to person so I can’t answer that for you. Also a point of note, you do realize people don’t have to like everyone right? If someone does something that legitimately annoys you (and their job is literally to be entertaining, so it puts more focus on it) then you don’t HAVE TO like them or watch their content. If you personally don’t see any issue with bragging, then ok, cool. But (and I feel like I’m repeating myself from the last reply) everyone else’s choice to not like that behavior is just as valid, since it’s all based on a person’s own feelings on the subject, not just yours. On the candy thing, ummm…. I guess? Idk. If I remember correctly, asmo touched on the concept of the value people put into stuff like money at different points in their life (which is sorta true but does also sorta belittle the value of happiness and other points in a person’s life). So yes, even with candy, the behavior of bragging is still annoying, but I feel like an individual would be more annoyed if they really liked candy.
@@jordanadams9098 discourse is just another word for debate or conversation. I don't think it's frowned upon. Maybe you mean discussion? Honestly, to answer your question, I read your comment and didn't understand why you would think like that. So I wanted to know and perhaps in the process understand that my way of thinking about it was flawed. That's the main reason I like talking to people with completely different views. The notion that two people can think that the other is completely wrong about a certain topic is very interesting. I don't much care if I end up being wrong. I care more for understanding. That being said, I don't think this debate is going anywhere but I very much appreciate your replies. Main reason being that there is just too much to unpack before we could return to the original topic. We'd be going down the rabbit hole so to speak. Thanks for your replies. Have a good one!
As he was talking about the good thumbnails with red circle and red arrow, i noticed that youtube suggests me his "Asmongold reacts to pracks destroy scam callers- ..." video with a red circle and arrow thumbnail.
Idk bro, I don’t think you’ll ever lose your momentum . I’ve heard about you for years, I finally started watching a few things and now I’m in.
25:10 I believe people started hating ninja because instead of focusing his stream on the people that mattered ( mainly people his age and up that actually played the game competitively) he focused more on the kid/ad side (clean) and tried to make it almost tv friendly.. but it just didn’t work the way it thought it would.
Um yeh sorry but the hell do you mean it didn’t work? He made tens of millions after changing himself for stream. He fell off with fortnite and kids growing out of it but he made an ungodly amount of money and is now back to his pre-fortnite persona
@@henryh95 Um yea where in my comment did I say he didn’t make money? Im talking about his fan base in general, not his income. Most of his money at the point I’m talking about and after came from his brand that he had established already. He was a household name at this point in the gaming world. My comment was directed to losing his viewers in general and the way people viewed him at this point.. I mean want a comparison I’ll give you one.. lil Wayne.. of course the man is still making millions a year.. but he lost a ton of his fan base there for a while and his music was considered garbage when he tried the whole rock shit…
this is a really great video for any content creator to just find tips on growth and sustainability
oh hi :)
Definitely! so keep pumping out those helpful raid vids sir! lol
I'm glad I never really knew who ninja was. I heard of him, but the only thing I really knew about him was the floss fail.
Simple answer? People change..his viewers grew up and found other games or streamers to watch. I always have this feeling that whenever something or someone new comes out, they have about four years of "being cool and making money". After you hit you're highs, make all the money and do all the things, you have no where to go but down. Your favorite CZcamsr won't be you're favorite, you're favorite streamer won't always be your favorite. People grow up, people change, Thus is life.
I've met Tyler and he is one of the nicest humblest people I have ever met , he made sure to greet all his fans and is super patient with kids , deserves everything he earned and more
Because that paycheck required him to do so
It's called " be nice or be fired"
Obviously he's gonna be nice to his consumers. Stop taking everything at face value.
I played with him a few times in FFXI (Wings server) and he was always really nice. He just seems like a happy goober who likes minmaxxing so people are very uncharitable towards him because they’re jealous and jaded.
Anyone who’s interacted with Tyler knows he’s really cool. Ignore the nobodies.
@@ChaseFace As if you aren't a nobody lmfao
Ninja became so popular that he became a true role model for very small kids and I appreciate that he made an attempt to show them there is a better way to act as an adult
Ninja made the cover of Sports Illustrated magazine. The nerdy kid in me has never been more happy to see something like that. A gamer on the cover. Wow.
Legend, even if I have never played Fortnite.
As Asmon says: Be happy with your life is al that counts. Need for comparison or even more competition is the downfall under the supremacy of greed and envy.
I had to comment and say it just made me smile so damn much when you said what's even the need to ego check especially when the person isn't even bothering anyone on a meaningful.matter it's beyond time to stop trying to bring people down and help lift people up no matter the popularity or any amount of money we all put our pants on one leg at a time and all of us should never have to know what it feels like to be put down and someone trying to take their ego or confidence bc of envy and greed
There are so many important nuggets that Zack says tied to content creation and a ton of even more important things other things
Such an absolute World Boss
The problem for me with streaming is i'm not bubbly.. i can't talk to invisible people, like you see people talking to an empty room.. i can't do that. I just play games and sometimes people watch :D and i tend to delete any videos I get emotional in.
"Everyone gets lucky sometimes, but people that work harder get lucky more often"
Truly a statement only a succesful streamer could make
Its not wrong tho, I'm not a succesful streamer because I dont stream. If I started streaming I'd have a better chance and if I tried hard I'd have an even better chance. But of course someone might come in, stream for a week and blow up to the millions of views quickly. Ninja got lucky sure but he wouldnt have been famous in the first place if he hadnt streamed 15 hours a day, been funny and good at the game.
People who work hard put themselves in position to be lucky more than people who don't work hard. It's simply a fact, and it makes logical sense as well.
12:33 I mean a lot of people can udnerstand but not sufficently, people cna 'not udnerstand' everything in general. People asking pointed questions is not wrong or stupid
Depends in what sense 'contradicts', ie they don't refer to the same time or aspect
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity. Ninja was lucky because he put in the work, took advantage of the Fortnite opportunity and continued to find opportunities.
my life has been going to shit lately, but just listening to you and honestly how fucking smart you’re… has really put things into perspective. I am jealous of my friends being so successful and I cant find my purpose in life. It’s such a toxic cycle and i’ve been feeding into my downfall, blaming everyone else. I have to man the fuck up.
Man up! U can do it! First step is knowing that ure not happy, meaning u can try to change that
I follow ninga back in the day when he was Halo Pro back in Halo 3 and Halo Reach.
I hope he was smart with his money.
I loved watching him during his competitive Halo days, but never followed him past that.
I loved the rant about egos cause it's so true. I feel like so many people have too high of an ego to admit that the person they're hating on is doing something right that they're doing wrong. People will say they shouldn't be like this and that, when really the person that actually needs to change is the person criticizing but they're too proud to realise that
And it constantly has something to do with their mindsets remaining immature in terms the people they hate and find even nonsensical reasons to continue doing that with pride so heavily flawed and they are afraid of what we happen if they let that good, so they choose to be blinded by their own insecurities because they don't want to be responsible for the mistake they make.
Ninja simply secured the MASSIVE bag, and was like “time to do what the hell I want!”
Asmongold this is the first time i have watched a video by you but im impressed you have a lot of good information that youre replaying thank you streaming is like the ocean we know more about space then we do the bottom of the ocean im trying to come back into the world of streaming as i had to "retire" for a few years because i became 100%homeless but thank you i learned a lot even though i have a few years of streaming under me
Just found asmongold… good to see someone explaining the real world and how it works to the young kids out there
Some of those viewers grew up and realised that Ninja is big cringe lmao.
Well said asmon you made some really great points. Ninja achieved what nobody could with all the time and effort he put into gaming and streaming and paved the way. He and his family for generations will be set. Nothing is better than that and now he gets to play any game and do whatever he wants as an influencer and enjoy life. 👍👍
I am not saying that there is no merit in Ninja's success, but I don't think he did actually put so much more effort and time into his career than other famous streamers.
A huge factor for Ninja's success has to do with the audience he captivated, specifically the 5-12 age group. What usually happens with this group is that they quickly become extremely dedicated fans, they also don't care so much about controversies, and pretty much go the extra mile to do everything their content creator asks of them - subscribing, using their referral codes, liking every video, buying the merch, and so on. Also, usually fans this age will talk about the content creator to their parents, ask them to buy the merch and products about them as gifts, etc...
So yeah, I obviously agree there is a huge merit to his success, but he also captivated an extremely loyal audience that would easily go the extra mile to support their favorite content creator.
@@capisenior Gee I wonder how he was able to "captivate the 5-12 age group" then. If it's so "easy" to get that audience then why haven't other streamers have that audience? If you have been around kids, you should know that it's hard to keep a kid's attention for more than 15 minutes. Think elementary school, kids have a smaller attention span are easily distracted by other things all the time. Yet Ninja was able to keep them hooked for his entire stream, which lasts for hours on end. I'd argue it's harder to attract that kind of audience than an audience of mature people who can sit through a stream and are willing to give you a chance. For that reason, I think he's definitely put more effort in his career than other streamers.
@@lostlong62 where exactly in my comment I ever said it was easy?
What I said is that there are definitely others streamers that did put as much, or even more effort into their streams, but didn't achieve the same success because their content was not as attractive to that age group as Ninja's content...
Effort is a tangible concept, by the way, so if we look at a metric like total time streamed or something like that, I'm certain there will be streamers that did put more time into it than Ninja
@@capisenior I don't think effort is purely based on the total time spent streaming. There are some streamers who stream the same thing over and over while doing nothing to stand out. That I think is the definition of insanity, rather than effort.
Most streamers on Twitch stand out by being really good at a video game. That already takes a lot of effort alone. But the extra step (and what I think makes Ninja so likeable with young people) comes down to their streaming personality. Just look at how hype Ninja is when he is streaming. Do you really think that's how he acts outside of streaming? He acts that way to attract more people to his stream, to make him likeable. That takes a lot more effort to perform, which is something most streamers don't do. If you want to attract mature audiences, you can easily observe how other streamers behave and copy/adapt to how they act. There were plenty of streamers who appealed to these types of people. But with the younger people, there aren't as many streamers you can copy, especially on Twitch. Ninja basically created his own unique personality in order to captivate that untapped audience without any "guide" to look at. He clearly put more effort than most streamers, and it paid off. I honestly don't see why you would diminish the effort Ninja put in to his streams just because he had the largest audience on Twitch.
@@lostlong62 honestly, I pretty much agree with your whole argument except the part in which you view my comments as diminishing Ninja's talent, my point is that even back then there were other streamers possibly as much, or even more experienced and talented than Ninja, but they didn't get even close to accomplish the same kind of explosive growth as Ninja's.
My comments were actually an exercise on my part of trying to analyze and understand which factors and particular traits he had which could contribute to such rapid growth, like a favorable group of supporting fans, being a reference name on pretty much the most hyped game of those times, his hype-inducing and quick-paced personality, and so on... And as the intent behind such analysis, it was never to diminish him, but simply to attempt to understand all the variables because I'm a Data Analyst by profession and nature and that's pretty much what I am always doing most of the time, trying to understand the variables and factors in action for a specific outcome.
Ninja said Game Over. He left his high score and paved a way for others.
I remember watching him when he was just gaming in a bedroom and I remember him getting the Red Bull sponsorship and the mini fridge showed up, the bandana changed, it exploded so fast.