Kai’s Tragic Full Story: Kung Fu Panda’s Powerful Villain
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- General Kai was the brother of Oogway, the tragic war hero who was erased from history, and the most powerful enemy the Dragon Warrior has ever faced. As a spirit warrior, Kai was able to unleash chi upon the Mortal Realm, but how did his life exist? Why was he corrupted by chi? And why did he want to destroy Master Oogway’s legacy?
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My stupid theory, Kai did not turn evil, but instead Oogway became good. Before I believe they were trying to conquer China kinda like Lord Shen but then Oogway saw the light when the Pandas healed him and taught him how to give Chi.
That could be real as happen in thor ragnarok odin and hela were conquering the universe and odin beacome good guy
This is also how I understood it from the film. The pandas and their compassion, if I may, started the transformation of Oogway into the “master” we know now (well, at least when we first meet him in KFP1)
Not a stupid theory at all! There are a lot of people who believe this. The third movie just did a terrible job of showing it.
Even the first thing that we see Kai say in this video agrees with this theory since he says oogway betrayed him which means they had the same ideals but then oogway changed
I would agree. Oogway was ANCIENT and those alive at the time only knew him as a beneficent being. But may have been very "flexible" in his alignment during Kai's time.
He's one of the most amazing villains, so sad we didn't get his proper story in kung fu panda 3
And jk Simmons does such a good job
I know right!
True
Why do some people dislike Kai the most?
@@dontreadmyprofilepicture1954 Some People dislike Kai because For 1 he lacks a proper back story compared to Tai tung and lord shen they both have a proper back story and it's clear 2 his motions feel weird or different he wants chi but that's all he wants for power its like a weird reason it's like if lord shen wanted to rule China for power
I think Kai is why Oogway is so good at talking to people, he realised that he could've saved Kai with words and so learned to do that for others
If that were even remotely true he could have prevented the first villain of the Kung Fu Panda movie
I feel like they rushed the backstory of Kai in short time. It was said that he ’wanted the power of chi' to himself. There was nothing, nor anything that explained that it would tempt him in the first place. Beforehand Kai did not hesitate to bring Oogway up to the panda village for days, without food, or water, he didn't ask for any of those things, not even money. To me that's kind of what makes Kai an unfinished and lame villain in the KFP movies, he wants to conquer for no reason
but he was the one with the imagine dragons song, so he's got that going damn well for him
@@aff77141 Your comment is the highlight of my day. Lmao
Couldn't have said it better myself. All they had to do was give a little reason as to why Kai went bad. Just something to make us understand him more.
They could have explained that all the wars he's been in drove him a bit nuts and he was desperate to stop the fighting. He wanted more power from the pandas and asked for it, but they refused because he had enough. Not wanting his friend Oogway to be fatally wounded ever again, he forcefully took chi from a panda, but Oogway saw this and stopped him. Kai would beg for him to take this power for the greater good, but Oogway wouldn't have any of it and then the fight would commence.
Dammit, anything to make this character more interesting. Kai's supposed to be the "final boss" of Kung Fu Panda and he just fell flat. A cool villain to be sure, but not enough substance.
It seems Dreamworks villains that are big and chunky with green eyes and long flowing black dreads are cursed to be rushed and denied any true potential to develop.
If nobody got that then it's because Kai looks a little like Drago Bludvist and Drago had similar problems with his backstory and character. Rushed, not getting any time to develop and had loads of potential gone to waste in regards to his backstory.
The Chinese hand writing in the background didn’t make more sense either, it just says “he had a major shift in mind some day”
You know, despite him being so selfish, his life's kinda sad...I mean, he spent so long trying to bring Oogway to the mountains to get healed, but sadly he was overcome by greed, one of the most savage warriors out there.
Selfish yes, in that he craved the chi of others, but so selfish? This guy literally traveled for days in the mountains simply for Oogway, that's one of the most selfless things I can see. But point understood.
I think there was a split in HOW to help others. Oogway had nearly died, and being healed wanted to heal others. Kai went the other way, his brother and closest friend nearly died because he couldn’t protect Oogway. By obtaining so much power, he hoped to reconquer China not to be a warlord but because he could control everything in a way on such a scale that he felt nobody would try, let alone be able to hurt anyone near and dear to him again
@@MysteriousOne1616 nah, it's not "selfless" when you sacrifice yourself for someone who is close to you. If he would be selfless, he would not try to conquer the world.
Well, he wasn't always selfish I mean dude climbed mountains to save 1 person FOR DAYS
Who agrees that the Kung Fu Panda trilogy is a perfect trilogy?
No one. 3rd one brings up the "Who am I" thing that was solved in 2. plus they made PO keep saying he's The Dragon Warrior instead of just "Me". 3rd should've been 2 hours long with. The extra 30 minutes on how it was revealed Oogway wasn't so much of the good guy he is now and Kai telling the 5 and Shifu.
All three are amazing
I most certainly agree.
Well I wouldn’t call them perfect per se, they have their flaws but are still fun to watch.
Good but not perfect it call
People think Kai is lackluster because they don’t understand the implications of his backstory. Why did Kai start taking chi for himself? Why? He was a CONQUEROR. He immediately learned to use chi and used it for what he’d always done. He only cared for his brothers in arms like Oogway. Oogway didn’t want Kai to hurt the Pandas because Oogway was finally waking up to himself. He learned compassion for others Kai never learned. Kai thought Oogway was on the same page, which is why he believed Oogway betrayed him.
Kai and Oogway really need their own movie. Kai is probably the most compelling villain. He was forgotten by history, betrayed by his only comrade on a journey he thought they shared in, and still presses forward even when revived.
This guy is a monster.
Nah I mean ... That's cool and all but come on tai lung was by far the most sympathetic and just all around badass "villain"
@@beckyseward6759I agree. Tai Lung was done dirty.
Basically everyone is a Shen lover and toe kisser
The scene where they read the scroll containing the story between Oogway and Kai is a breathtaking view of the Chinese ink-related art. As a Chinese I’m amazed by the detail in the background, specifically, the multiple Chinese character handwriting.
Someone made all of them out and it says the following:
写于九千八百九十三年：
(Written in year 9893:)
天煞与我本歃血为盟，有兄弟之约。
(Kai and I smeared blood as an alliance, and were sworn to be brothers.)
昔日我等均为义军之将领，讨伐逆贼。
(We were both generals in a army for justice and fought rebels who opposed the country.)
天煞军骁勇善战，所战皆捷。
(The army of Kai was both brave and fierce, any battle fought ends in victory.)
贼军每逢天煞旌旗，闻之魂飞胆怯。
(The enemies tremble with fear when they witness the war banner of Kai’s)
一场混战中受伤，天煞搀扶我撤退。
(Wounded in a battle, I was carried by Kai in a retreat.)
忝日来到宁静山谷，谷中彩蝶翩飞，麦穗迎风。
(One day we arrived at a peaceful valley, a valley where butterflies fly and the crops flourish with breezes.)
小桥流水，如桃花源般之世界。
(With bridges and streams, a world out of this world.)
此处村民乐天知命，一片祥和无邪。
(The villagers here are content with their lives, harmony and purity all around.)
天地间涌动着一股气场之美，村民善用气，以气让我筋脉复原感觉。
(The world around pulsed with the beauty of Chi, the villagers had great mastery with Chi, and they used such mastery to bring back my feelings.)
此气为万物能量，生命本源之轮回。
(This Chi is the energy in everything, a circulation in the foundation of lives.)
此时，天煞性格骤变，欲将气夺回。
(It was at this time, that Kai suddenly had a change of mind, and decided to take the Chi.)
兄弟阋墙恩断义绝，多年情谊竟见血。
(The brotherhood shattered, years of friendship, blood was spilt.)
一场惊天动地之江湖厮杀。
(A brutal combat began, which shook the world, heaven and earth alike.)
天煞最终不敌浩然正气，败战弃械。
(Kai was no match for the Chi of just, and was defeated with weapons gone.)
我将天煞贬入灵界，永世不得返回。
(I banished Kai to the Spirit Realm, never to be returned.)
昔日我等恩怨字字含泪，行行泣血。
(As I remember our past, every word flows with tear and every line cries blood.)
乌龟道人，作于宁静山谷
(The Taoist Turtle, wrote this in the peaceful valley.)
The storytelling actually went a little different. The handwriting version mentioned the army was to combat some rebellion, and both Kai and Oogway were leaders of that army. And it wasn’t an ambush, it was just a complicated battle. There was no “Ancient place of healing” lore, only “a place out of this world”. And the Chi teaching was not even mentioned in this version. The instructions about “master of Chi” also doesn’t exist, instead Oogway expressed how much it pained his heart that he had to fight his best friend, and essentially killing him in the end. The fact that Oogway called himself a Taoist was not in my expectation, I thought he was just a Kungfu master with Taoist wisdom.
interesting.
Maybe after they drew the art the story changed?
Hurts when u put this much effort and only get 9 likes
@@arpanmukherjee961 This IS a video about an old movie, so that’s to be expected
Wow I've always Wondered what the scroll says thanks for writing
ahhh yes, 文言文 my worse nightmare but still I’m impressed Chings literature can compress so much story and knowledge into such little wording.
Kai had so much potential to be a fantastic villain for Kung Fu Panda. He had interesting powers, a unique fighting style, a well done and intimidating design, had fantastic fight scenes, and was portrayed excellently by J.K. Simmons. What holds him back is his lacklustre backstory. It was so close to being good. His friendship with Oogway and dedication to save his life was very interesting. Then Kai decided to go bad for literally no reason other than wanting power, deluding himself into thinking that Ooogway betrayed him when he himself betrayed Oogway's trust by doing something so heinous. It was extremely random and made me question how Kai could have even been considered a brotherly figure to a person as pure and kindhearted as Oogway.
It also didn't help that Kai was treated as a joke throughout most the film, bringing down his intimidation factor. Yes, Lord Shen had funny scenes that made him look somewhat pathetic, but he was still shown to be a pure evil psychotic monster who scarred Po for life. His parents literally died of heartbreak from the atrocity he committed against the pandas. He even killed his right hand Boss Wolf, who may have once been his friend since childhood according to some sources. Shen's ruthless nature made the audience understand how much of a threat he was while Kai left people wondering who he was and why he was relevant. Po's final fight with him at the end (while visually fantastic with an incredible score) made him look even more like a joke. Tai Lung's final fight with Po was also ridiculous, but he was taken seriously and was a clear threat throughout most of the movie where as Kai wasn't.
I agree, he could’ve been good, but he wasn’t
@@Tigoros136 After how well done Tai Lung and Shen were, they really should have put more time into Kai, but he was sidelined for other things in the third movie. That's my biggest problem in Kung Fu Panda 3. Important stuff and familiar faces get sidelined for the sake of having big round cute pandas with almost no personality. Li (who actually is a good character) and Ping were the only important characters aside from Po. Shifu gave up being a teacher with little reason (when Po never even asked for the position mind you) and the Furious Five became glorified henchmen for Kai. Even Tigress was thrown into the background, her talk with Po at the Panda Village not doing anything for the characters or story. Lame, man.
He's fallen into the same hole as Drago Bludvist. Great potential but was sadly left to waste. Kinda a coincidence since Kai looks a little bit like Drago.
@@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker Good point.
@@robonaught He indeed had a lot of potential that was left to waste. I agree on that.
What do you think of Kai's character arc? I feel like he's the least developed out of the Kung Fu Panda villain's, but I felt like taking some time to examine his story more made me appreciate him a lot more. I only wish we could have gotten a deeper examination of Kai's relationship with Oogway. Have a magical day, fun people!
I think this is a really sad example of addiction every single villan feels entitled
Shen thought he was entitled to the throne of Gongman city
And Tia lung felt entitled to the dragon scroll.
This is why kung fu panda is such great series
It’s good
He's an epic villain. His backstory is absolutely amazing, his looks and demeanor are magnificent, and most of all...
His THEME SONG is PURE AWESOMENESS
He was probably the most important villains so far, yet he had kinda a sucky character arc. I think that if we do get a KFP 4, they should atleast give us some more stuff on his history, his actual intentions (since I think weren't really clewr. I mean, did he want to rule the world, destroy it or destroy Kung Fu) and how he actually beat all those warriors in the Spirit Realm.
Though, I actually thought he was the funniest of the villains.
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When looking at Kai's full story, it can be seen why Kai used the techniques of using chi by stealing it from others. Upon witnessing how Oogway was nearly killed by their enemies, Kai saw how he wasn't invincible and that the thought of losing his brother in arms really struck him hard. Kai stealing chi from others was his way of making sure that no one could ever hurt those he cared about most again, but Oogway didn't see it in that way.
Perhaps if the two had talked it out then Kai wouldn't have felt that Oogway betrayed him when he banished him to the spirit world. Kai saw a way to protect Oogway by making sure that no enemy could ever harm them again.
oogway turned good and thats how he betrayed kai and that what you say too
@@izen7170 his overall views changed, but essentially the same thing.
Sounds like what Mr. Ping told to Li Shan "Sometimes we do the wrong things but for the right reasons." if Kai really wanted to use this power to protect both himself and his dearest friend from suffering the same fate that Oogway nearly faced. Then I guess that what Oogway didn't appreciate was that it was done with the cost of the innocent lives.
@@tuomaspolla3814 oogway just turned good, in that moment when kai started stealing chi, thats the story
@@tuomaspolla3814 yeah, it's one thing to defeat an opponent who was warped by their own selfish desires and take their chi energy. But it is different to use that power on those who knew neither victory or defeat and were neutral parties.
What if Oogway used Kai as an example of flaws in heroes instead of just hiding the fact he ever existed.
Realistically, it would give rise as a temptation to a lot of would be conquerors and despots seeking to find the power of chi. I see it as a very real consequence to learn such a powerful warrior that existed, who came close to conquering all of China and nigh unstoppable with the power of chi.
"Po calls them"
Um, I think you'll find Po AND Monkey came up with the term Jombies at the same time, thank you
And you only focused on the small mistakes that aren't even a big deal, it seems you only came to this video just to point this out
@@trashyaccount1423 or, and here's a crazy idea, I actually don't care at all and was just having fun.
But... no. No, that couldn't be, could it?
Someone just having fun and being happy on a video about Kung Fu Panda? That's not possible, is it?
Poor Monkey, never gets the recognition he deserves. Doesn't he speak like only 10 lines in the first movie?
So Kai had what I like to call the "Thanos complex" which is basically 'He did the wrong things for the right reasons' kinda deal
Examples are
As the name says thanos, zamasu from Dragon Ball Super, Karli from Falcon and the Winter Soldier,etc
@OCTAVIO FRANCHINO That's exactly what I was thinking! Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side because he believed it held the key to saving his wife, Padme, from dying.
Zamasu wasn’t really doing anything for the right reasons, he kinda just hated mortals
Zamasu doesn't belong on that list the dude just had a God complex. He wasn't even trying to better anything
No, he was just jealous
@@ismailefesahingoz2266 that would be the simpler and more boring explanation, yes
I think that Kai was a good villain and he was the one villain from the three movies who had respect for Po and didn’t have anything against him Tai long was jealous of him and Shen despised him but Kai had some Respect for him especially since Po acknowledged him by his name and Titles and even states that he might Consider to spare his life.
I don't usually think he hates po but he sure does know how to respect other's Knowledge instead of judging them, I mean Po did try to respect kai by knowing who he is and it looked like they had a little bit of a friendly dynamic moment there lol i kept remembering that scene cause it was wholesome but still funny
Plus usually when others look at po they just go “this guy is the dragon warrior? This is a joke” Kai did not do that
@@krustylesponge6250 I think kai kinda look down on po for a minute but he didn't underestimated him that much, He just goes "So this is the one who is destined to stop me? I'll just go with it anyway" Like he knows Po is a Great Dragon warrior but he didn't underestimated he's Image or he's abilities on Kung fu, He thinks Po is a Bigger threat even if Po cannot defeat him
@@itzangel9379 yeah, kai knew Po was powerful but kai was also like “eh, I’m strong af too, doesn’t matter”
I got a completely different message. When I first watched the third movie I understood that they were warlords. Warlords are not nice people. I took from it that Oogway and Kai were conquering Chinese provinces. When Oogway became injured I saw that as Oogway learning to give rather than take while Kai continued to want to stay on the same path. I think it gives Oogway deeper characterization by making it to where Oogway could be just as lost and greedy as others, but learned from it. I don't know. That's just how I saw it in the movie.
I did like your other analysis though. His anger at being erased from history. His perceived betrayal by Oogway.
Here’s my idea for changing Kai’s motivation: after surviving assassination and carrying Oogway for lord knows how long: he wants to end all wars in China before they even happen. And When he’s introduced to Chi, he finds a way to do so. His goal is to create an invincible army of warrior s with strong chi, even after death. The difference between him and his old friend is that Oogway learns to trust in new generations and let things be. Kai does not; he fails to realize the more you take the less you have.
Wow. That's a really good backstory and motivation.
I think Oogway saw that Kai's fear and pain, pushed Kai to do whatever was needed to protect Oogway, was going to lead to other having the same fear and pain that Kai has. If you kill your enemies out of your fear and pain you are going to spread that fear and pain to your enemies loved ones. Oogway knew for Kai to understand his path was was not the only way, he needed to see someone who shared his fear and pain but choose a different path to deal with it, Oogway could never be that person . I think Oogway also could not face Kai causing that pain and fear in others, so sending Kai tp the spirit world was the only way he knew to protect the valley of peace and China from Kai.
"Give me your chi!!"
"OK, here ya go"
All ur Chi’s belongz to us!
2:43~ The characters are probably “天叉”. 天 stands for “heaven”, and 叉 usually stands for “forking”, but with the character meaning night, 夜叉 stands for “demon, or monster”.
Or yaksha
@@Zenocius Yep, 夜叉 is pronounced “ _yasha_ ” in Eastern Asian languages.
It’s actually “天煞”, where “煞”means ferocious things. But the name was translated correctly.
@@lbilly8790
Oh, OK. Thanks. I am of Japanese origin, so I knew I may be wrong on that part.
The video had it more correctly.
I feel like kai well his story is sad but I picture Oogway had probably had to make a Very tough decision he was watching his brother in arms his best friend hurting others (maybe innocents) and perhaps he did try talking to him and kai didn't listen he might have had to choose between the person he cares for and innocent lives
He is without a doubt one of the Greatest villains ever
Agreed
Kai was definetly much more understandable and symphathethic compared to the power hungry snow leopard The worst part is he *confirmed* the fact that Master Oogway was anything but innocent he was a very conquest happy warlord! Reminds you any second movie peafowl prince
You don't know what you're talking about. Kai was using chi for evil purposes. Oogway stopped him.
@@DavidRay39 You obviously didnt even watched the movie you ignorant one! Kai literally explained the past where oogway was a go conquest happy *warlord*
@@thedoruk6324 I HAVE seen the movie, but it's been a few years. And how do you know Kai was even telling the truth? He's the villain. And stealing a kung fu master's chi and using them as puppets does not strike me as the actions of someone who wants to "protect" them. Sounds more like someone who is selfish and greedy.
@@DavidRay39 Because its well known that Oogway cooporated with Kai
what.... bro what.... bro i don't think we saw the same movie
It feels like you have to assume a lot about Kai to really appreciate his character. The movie did not give us a very deep look at his backstory, which I suppose fits with the idea that his legacy has ben erased, but it's still unfortunate. Regardless, I will gladly accept this analysis as the full backstory that we never got!
I like how Ponkept interrupting him.
"Chit chat"
"But-"
"Chitity-chit-chat"
I remember seeing a theory that said they were actually both evil and oogway had a change of heart when the pandas saved him
I don't remember much but I do remember it made a lot of sense
It had something to do with symbolism in colors that the creates admitted to using throughout the franchise
That wasn't all the evidence presented but I don't remember the rest
The army they were leading were described as “an army of justice” in the Chinese writing of the background, so no, it’s definitely not some sort of “evil past”
@@user-cl6lw6rc1c that's a good point but a lot of the other evidence really pointed otherwise
I mean idk if it was true cuz I don't remember a lot of it but it was just really interesting
Udh I wish I could find it
@@kaylab9779 I found a Reddit post online that says about this theory and...... no, that doesn’t work at all. They mentioned the titles about him, but that’s quite honestly a self contradiction......
That theory half relied on Kai’s self introduction, he mentioned how he was “the supreme warlord” and the “Jade Slayer”, also “maker of widows”. And argued how Kai couldn’t have gotten these titles had he turned evil in the village......
The thing with this is that these titles literally showed him leaving the village before the battle with Oogway, is he gonna be a “Jade slayer” before he mastered this “taking chi” ability? And the whole “supreme warlord” is also a contradiction in itself, if that’s what he has been and not what he become, that means Oogway was “ambitious” being a second in command of the ultimate army...... there’s honestly not a lot of steps that he can climb from that.
@@kaylab9779 Maybe there’s more evidence? I don’t know, and my evidence isn’t very bountiful either
@@user-cl6lw6rc1c The one that I saw mostly relied on color symbolism I think
It probably isn't true but it would make for some good fanfiction
If Kai and Oogway had another character who sacrificed themselves to save both of them in the rain of fire, and Kai's reason to steal Chi is to revive this character back from the dead and reason to betray Oogway was because Oogway stopped him from doing this, I think the backstory would be better. Connecting with Po's loss of losing his mom, I think it can make a great story.
Po: *Chit-Chat.*
Kai: *I will take your Chic-Chat...*
Po: *Chiting-Chiting Chat-chat.*
*I will show you the true power of chi, brother*
Kai was destroyed by the very power he sought.
Hey I have a Kung Fu Panda theory you can talk about. What would’ve happened if Po got to the gates on time or if his fireworks chair never worked? Would Oogway still pick him as Dragon Warrior?
I think considering the heavy fate aspect of the kung fu panda world, there would be no timeline where things didn't go down in some manner similar to what happened--and even if there was, he would still find some way to make a scene that landed him in the right spot
The real question is would Po still have become the Dragon Warrior if Shen had never attacked his village?
@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 Kai probably would replace shen in that part
nope oogway woudnt pick
I feel like Kai was taking chi for the sake of becoming stronger and trying to protect Oogway which I think is why he felt betrayed when Oogway banished him.
Oogway made mistakes but than again we all do. Kai in the other hand his heart was in the right place but the method on the other hand was wrong. He became this and Oogway had to stop him, because once darkness gets a taste for light it will not rest until it swallows the sun itself.
And when Poe gave him his chi Kai got more than what he bargained for. He had too much energy which caused him to explode. Let’s this explains 💡 give it energy it glows keep feeding it then sooner or later it’ll pop!
If they ever make a 4th movie I really hope they show an old po. Selecting an inheritor just like oogway and make po just as wise. That would be so cool.
Well that aged pretty well there will be a Kung Fu Panda 4 movie but it will be in 2024
I wish they made a story of jealousy. Oogway and Kai fought together. They could have shown a flashback where it all goes down. Where Kai's jealousy of Oogway started. He saw his abilities and his popularity and that seed of competition started to fight him. And it only deepens when in the pandas. Maybe they can show a story that Kai tried to study chi but couldn't do it but Oogway is improving. So when he discovered he can take chi he thought finally he can be more powerful than Oogway.
This story can be connected with Po's message of Who Am I. Because you can't be yourself if you try to be someone else. That's why Kai can't master chi. Because he spent his life trying to be Oogway. Because of jealousy and competition
I believe that the reason kai's theme color green is because the way he does chi is negative. Remember what shifu said? The energy that flows through all leaving things makes it possibly because of a negative energy the power of taking chi from others. If there is ying and yang then there is positive and negative and if so then it explains he is too ying and yang like po but anti.
It makes sense now, why oogway chose po in the first movie. Kai was the reason! He knew the village of pandas, and their ability to use chi, who knew about all things they had done, and he probably knew that Kai would come back again, so he chose a panda to fight him off! Other then the fact that he knew absolutely nothing about chi at that time, I feel like the only other reason oogway might have chosen po was because oogway can tell the future lol.
Kung Fu Panda 3 should have been two solid hours long with the extra 30 minutes going to showing Oogway was before and Kai talking about what they used to do together. Point though for making him without any real feel sorry for him, sympathetic traits and not an opposite of PO. Also the "Who am I" thing with PO was solved in 2, so there's no need to have brought it back. That included, you also noticed how none of the pandas seem like the farmers at the end of 2 and Li seems to have lost the mildly spiritual thing about him he also had in 2.
Finally! I've been waiting so long for a new Kung Fu Panda video!!
Why dreamworks didnt make Kai use Tai Lung's chi :( i would love to see Tai Lung fights Po for the second time
They should make a spin off about kai and oggway and thier friendship and explain kai's past more than he was just oggway 's friend and tell us exactly what made him go insane and overall flesh him out more than kung fu panda 3 did.
That would be fire esp if it introduces a new protagonist for the next movie and the givted young new animal is being told this
Story by po who says he heard it from his master who got the tale from the horses mouth master oogway himself.
I always liked the small animation detail of taking chi being the action the pandas do to give chi in reverse
I hope that your CZcams channel will keep on growing
I just realized is po now immune to the wushi finger hold
Yeah imagine
Tigress:I've learnt the wushi finger hold po! Now take this! *She does the good on him
Po:Yeah that doesn't work on me anymore...
The hold
Maybe the reason why Kai wanted the chi of all pandas was because they were the ones who showed him chi in the first place. No doubt if Kai had taken Po's chi he might have considered Po as his crown jewel or something.
He would have taken his chi if the pandas didn't helped him.
I think that Kai ultimately sealed his destiny on that day because Oogway say the change and the monster that Kai was becoming so he knew that he would have to stop him no matter how much it hurt him. As Oogway says “one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it”. When he meets his old friend for the first time in 500 years he is ultimately saddened because he has not changed and he has not learned from his past mistakes and he has let his anger, quest for revenge and power consume his heart ♥️ leading his downfall as Oogway told his old friend “When will You realise that the more you take the less you have” this is because he knows that the more Chi Kai takes the more set in stone his Destiny is. I don’t think Oogway is directly responsible for Kai being forgotten I think that over the generations he was forgotten naturally. Xx
Kai earns seventh place of evil dreamworks villains
Who is first?
@@JoeMama-kj7bq Grimmel the Grisly (How to train your dragon 3)
@El Macho172 Bingo 👍
@@Gabezilla437 grimmel isn’t a good villain lmao
@@Gabezilla437 Oh, uh, definitely no on that one. Grimmel is probably the worst villain of the three. His actions and the people around him are incompetent, painting him as a minimal threat.
I honestly felt Oogway let Kai take his chi because he knew full well Po would beat Kai. Cause Oogway did say he saw the future of Kung Fu makes me thinks he saw Kai’s defeat to Po the whole fight Oogway didn’t seem to really try while Kai was giving his all. Oogway was just messing around and joking not taking what Kai was doing seriously
Most badass character in the world!
I think you have the wrong video. This one isn't on Shen.
@@JoeMama-kj7bq Meh I would say Tai Lung earns the title of most badass villain mostly because of how menacing and sick his fight scenes was. Still Shen deserves the title of most cunning antagonist in the KFP franchise
@@chillihog1543 Yup
There is nothing more painful for me than seeing a character with so much potential get wasted.
he wasn't a war hero, he was a warlord, he was the widow maker before the chi incident, he was the beast of vengeance before the chi incident..
Oogway and him were both violent monsters.. that's why Oogway wasn't wise enough to talk to him back then, he was a young turtle who knew only violence..
When Kai climbed the mountain to the panda village it kinda reminded me of God of War and funny enough in the movie kung fu panda Kai was like a God of war
It's a shame the idea of Kai stealing the chi from others to become stronger in order to protect Oogway is not mentioned in the film.
That is an awesome analysis bud
Kai has to be one of the best villains in cartoon history
I always saw him as their wack at kratos due to the similar weapons
Fantastic job
So..I recently discovered your amazing channel, and I’m already invested. I was wondering about Peter Pan, not just Peter, but his shadow. I know you already have a video on that subject, but I was wondering if peters shadow is connected to the same universe, or dimension as Dr. Facilier’s shadow. Although, it’s obvious that the Dr uses his shadow as an extension of his own body, like it was an arm or leg, but in peter’s case, The shadow has a complete mind of its own at times. Do you think you could make a video on this subject, if you haven’t already?
I like to think that after Oogway learned how to give chi he wanted to focus on the more spiritual and peaceful ways of kung fu. Oogway would have had to leave what was left of his army and Kai behind. This would outrage Kai as he thinks Oogway is turning his back on him and the critically damaged army.
So Kai then founds out how to take Chi to bring his army back up to strength then the story goes on from there.
So i actually have a headcanon, that oogway built the jade palace, and called it the jade palace not only to be a place for his legacy and kungfu, but also to honor kai, since kai uses jade as a primary weapon, and is like connected
anyways idk if people already like made this connection, but yeh.
Kung Fu panda has such an interesting story I love it
Great video. I suggest you do a video about Gandra Dee. Because I feel her story needs to be explained here.
I would frankly want to know if Kai actually has any descendants, cause it would probably help to get to know more about Kai when his family would pass down the Tale of Kai the Warlord through the generations for we won't actually be able to know anything more about Kai if his spirit truly is destroyed forever.
Kai was all chit chat. Chitty Chitty Chat Chat Chat Chat Chat.
Aw, maaaaaan! I was hoping you had an explanation as to exactly why Kai was all “Mine, mine, mine” with Chi, like maybe some behind the scenes material went deeper down on his backstory, but nope! I may not like how Tai Lung was represented a sort of a “brat”, but at least he had a good reason for his actions!
This is the sadness story I've ever heard.
From snow leopard, to peacock, to Yak
Its evolving backwards
Actually, according to villains wiki, kai is a bull, not a yak
@@maxmeidl4909 A bull is the term for a male of any bovine species including Yaks.
Also don't believe everything on Villains Wiki. Seriously that Wiki put Drago Bludvist in the category of villains with Xenophobic traits or motives.....how the f*** is Drago xenophobic?
Speaking of Kung Fu Panda...
Po is going to be in the next episode of Death Battle, and his opponent is Iron Fist from Marvel Comics, this is the first time ever that an animated movie character has been brought onto the show
It comes out on CZcams on the 17th May if you're interested to check it out
Very great video and explanation. Being Kai my main favorite Kung Fu Panda villain, mainly I always thought that his obsession with taking the chi of kung fu masters might stem from a fear of becoming irrelevant, forgotten or in a certain way he was doing it for a good greater purpose as it was to protect those who he cared most about, like Oogway to be hurt ever again. Basically he wanted to become more, because he felt very vulnerable and thought that he wasn't unbeatable. Also, by the other side. The jade blades that Kai wields may symbolize his emotional armor. They could represent a psychological barrier that he has constructed to protect himself from the pain of betrayal and loss. Finally but not least. Kai's transformation into a spirit warrior and his quest for chi may represent an identity crisis that he suffered from. Since his original identity as a warrior and friend to Oogway is lost, replaced by a desire for power and dominance. This shift might be a coping mechanism for dealing as well with his perceived betrayal.
By the way, I do really liked the scenes where they portrayed the story of Kai and how he appeared on the chinese ink art painted scrolls. Which gave it a sense or touch to be something very more ancient, than the storylines of Tai Lung and Lord Shen.
I hope they make at least a short prequel film about oogways past life because I think he used to be an evil warrior but was enough by the pandas aiding him and I think the movie can delve deeper into Kais backstory and why he became overcome with greed for the power of chi maybe he wanted to protect oogway or maybe Kai wanted to get stronger in the quickest way possible to never feel weak again
Kai is my favorite Kung fu panda villain because he wanted power and absolute power corrupts those who seek it.
That's power of the yin and yang symbol in the kung fu panda trilogy, and the series...
Kai's stragglers as a friend, wanted to get stronger to protect his friend Oogway was the good in him, but the path he took was the wrong way, and at the same time, Oogway wanted to make kai realize he was wrong, but he made a choice to fight him and lead to kai being hurt and forgotten,
every one had they're beliefs and ideas but world only knows black or white, so we all assumed that kai was a bad caracter right from the start. yet he had good intentions.
Kai is my favourite evil guy in the Kung-fu panda world
Wonderful
I think Kai probably thought that Chi of the pandas were powerful, but not used. Hence, he mostly would have thought by capturing their Chi, he can use them in his war expeditions, for both healing his friends and making him powerful.
Also the fact that Kai had to pay Imagine Dragons for his theme song "I'm So Sorry"
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I like it when his music tune starts and he swings his 'koyketsu' or you can just call it dramatic entrance
I love this analysis of kai
So emotional 😭
Fantastic
Kung Fu panda as a trilogy is really good at writing villains, in that no one believes they are evil: they often actually have the purest intentions, but experience a 'snap' that raises the stakes and forces them to do evil to achieve their ultimately 'good' intentions.
Tai Lung and his relationship to Shifu, Shen and his fear of Po, and Kai trying to save the ones he cares for - all of them are misguided and fearful.
People aren't evil because they want to be, people are evil because they think they're doing the right thing. A blinding belief of knowing what is best for all is perhaps the most terrifying ideal a person can have
Issac I’m been on a bit of a Greek Mythology kick lately and I was wondering if you plan on doing any Hercules themed videos.
The 3 big ones for me are
Phil’s Full Story-why did Phil become a trainer of heroes and why did many of his students including Achilles fail to go the distance?
The Muses explained-who are the Goddesses of the Arts?
Why was Thebes such a troubled city?
i love kais theme song
I'm invested in your channel 😂
Kai: "KAI HAS RETURNED!!!"
Someone: "Who?"
Me: 😂😂😂
it would’ve been cool it Tai Lung showed up in the spirit realm as well
Tai Lung is seen on his belt when he takes Viper and Monkey’s Chi
Tbh I always thought that when oogway broke kais staff into three pieces, kai used the top and bottom third to make the chain weapons hes known for.
Incredible
this kung fu panda story was my childhood
The thing that separates Kai from Shen and Tai Lung is that Po would have had to face him whether he was the dragon warrior or not. Shen could have been avoided if Oogway hadn’t picked him and Tai Lung and Po wouldn’t have met in the first place if he was never dragon warrior, but Kai specifically wanted to take the chi of all pandas so their meet was destiny.
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The first concept designs of Kai were terrible I'm so glad they fixed him.
I’m a little late with my comment by two months but might as well comment. I honestly think Kai lived up to the last villains and wasn’t downhill.
His backstory is what a lot of people look down upon because it seems so lackluster, but in reality, looks can be deceiving and it’s hinted throughout the 3rd movie that it’s different than at first glance and I think his motive made complete sense in KFP3.
Kai being good in the first place actually has less evidence than one might think but let’s look at his titles.
“Supreme Warlord of all China, The Jade Slayer, Master of pain. Beast of vengeance. Maker of widows.”
These aren’t good names are they?
Oogway is leading a great army. Kai is a Supreme Warlord Does Oogway support this? Most likely if he loved him like a brother and fully agreed on helping Kai lead this army this says something.
Now this isn’t exact proof a good guy could have names like that but here’s the thing. The whole motivation on power doesn’t come out of nowhere, the Kung Fu Franchise makes it clear with it’s writing decisions that they don’t throw things in for the sake of it especially with their main villain. Kai was perfectly fine with wanting the power for himself, when Oogway kicks him when he steals the Chi Kai doesn’t look at Oogway like “Darn! He caught me!” No. He has a genuine face of confusion and surprise, this says something. This implies Kai didn’t expect Oogway to actually attack him which means something like this is normal and for Kai to be surprised should imply this isn’t the first time Kai has sought for power.
Let’s look into it deeper there are quotes throughout the movie but pay attention to this one.
“I fought by his side… I loved him like a brother.. and he… betrayed me…”
The face Kai makes after that is a genuinely sad and upset face so he’s absolutely telling the truth. This proves Kai was genuinely betrayed when they didn’t follow through with taking the chi from Kai which hints that it was normal and Kai was shocked he betrayed him for that.
There’s also the fact that Kai and Oogway were in a war and that they were just ambushed with Oogway almost dead from it. So realistically in that situation, Kai would’ve wanted to have the power all to himself so he could take revenge on that army that ambushed them hence Kai’s title “The Beast of VENGEANCE” It’d make perfect sense for Kai to want power if he’s leading an army trying to defeat the other. Now, why did Oogway betray him? Well, let’s find out.
Oogway brother in arms with a guy wanting power to destroy another army he probably wasn’t the peaceful nicest turtle we see nowadays. He was perfectly fine with Kai’s decision as they were brother in arms after all who wants power to destroy the opponent's army. But the difference here is while Oogway agrees with Kai, Oogway just visited a peaceful Panda village who taught him differently like giving Chi this is actually where Oogway could’ve gone to the Oogway we know and
love today as the Panda’s on-screen are shown to be good genuine people. So Oogway likely changed as a person here, but Kai didn’t go down the path like Oogway so he stuck to the way they once saw by using their power to destroy the opposing army but Oogway betrays him in his mind as he has changed this is evident by the colors where Kai is Green which symbolizes evil while Oogway’s aura around him is yellow which represents good if I remember correctly. After defeating Kai this sets up a big motive for why Kai is the perfect villain in Kung Fu Panda 3.
Po in Kung Fu Panda 3 is trying to learn who he is. Hence the entire movie he talks to his friends and family which he even references who he is in their final fight. The thing with Kai is he attacks you on a psychological level he takes your friends and family and uses it against you.
Now the motive why the hell doesn’t he just torture Oogway and kill him? He’s the only one who betrayed him. It’s simpler than you think. The army and legacy Oogway and Kai fought for was ruined and ripped to shambles. Oogway banishing Kai likely meant the entire army Kai was so desperately trying to help support to defeat their enemy is gone while being betrayed by his friend. As he is the Beast of Vengeance, with Kai’s memory destroyed as he says he wants to do the absolute same to Oogway. If Oogway destroyed what they fought for and their legacy then Kai was going to destroy his legacy by destroying everyone who loved and used his Kung Fu as well as the Panda’s who changed him.
This not only is a good motive but sets up why he’s so dangerous. Kai’s extremely powerful and it’s built up arguably to the same amount as Tai Lung. I can tell they didn’t want to rip off Tai Lung so they made him comedic which fits the flim. The very start establishes him as strong where he defeats Oogway and every master who ever died which would include Tai Lung this already says that he is going to be extremely powerful. Later on he takes our Master Chicken, Bear and Mantis easily and we don’t even see him, the quiet atmosphere as he appears and as Master Crane is seen helpless against Kai. Argue all you want about him not being intimidating but he’s a damn Well threat. Then he is mentioned to have taken every master in china’s chi, then takes down the Furious Five and Shifu and now is coming after the villagers. And the worst part he isn’t going to stop till he finds you, and he is fully motivated to finish you. You can’t hide. Po could’ve avoided Tai Lung he could’ve just not ran up to the Jade Palace, Shen he could’ve just escaped and left Gongmen since Shen was planning to take over China as his main goal while Kai… he’s going to find you no matter what.
How well does he connect to the movie? Quite well.
“The more you take the less you have.”
Is something Kai never learned. The whole movie is based on relationships and learning who you are. Po never stole the power of anyone around him to defeat Kai he was granted it by them. If Kai was like Po those Panda’s would’ve granted Kai the Chi to help him but instead Kai stole theirs. Kai never valued relationships for the people around him like Po so he was blind when Oogway said that line.
In conclusion it’s a sad story for Kai. He never knew how to value the people around him other than himself and Oogway and only viewed power in others for his benefit. He never realized what harm he caused and he lost everything cause of it. His sanity, his best friend, his army, fame, legacy, etc. If Kai learned how to value life around him, he could’ve very well been beside Oogway teaching at the Jade Palace. It was too bad Oogway never reached that level of wisdom to save his friend.
And that’s why I think Kai is a masterfully well written clever villain.
Also I loved his voice, fight scenes, entrances, etc that all made him an even better villain. In my perspective, I think Kai can happily sit beside Shen and Tai Lung as groundbreaking villains.
Waauw, this is so well thought-out upon Kai, bravo =D
I didn't read all of this but from what I read thank you for doing kai some justice
@@KingAshtray No problem. I’ll just sum it up. Kai is tragic because he never saw the chance to change, and assumed that his friend just betrayed him for no reason. His relentless quest for power without getting to learn the path Oogway went on was sad, because all he wanted to do was fight an ambitious quest with Oogway and get revenge on those who harmed him. He feels so betrayed that he feels the need to destroy Oogway’s entire legacy as he believes Oogway built his own to replace his. This cost him everything, and it’s sad he couldn’t go down a path like Oogway could.
@@kyleb7974 Thanks this is why kai is my favorite out of the 3.
People like lord Shen and Tai Because they all kind of had a personal connection to po.
But don't get me wrong they're all S Tier for me especially death from puss in boots him and kai are chefs' kiss.
@@KingAshtray Yeah, they’re all Goated.
Oh men! The 3rd of this Trilogy makes far more sense to me even than the 1st and 2nd. Kung fu Panda is truly a tale of that mutual relationship between yin & yang toward the evolution of all generations (primarily consisting of THREE [3]).
Deeply, the movie is about Chi and healing. It is about the healing force of spirit and lifestreams. In a secret valley, Kai learned about Chi from the Pandas. Eventually, the only way Kai could be defeated was his attempt to straight soul steal Po in his golden form. Similar to Indiana Jones Golden Cups and humble woods. Another famous healer is Wolverine, only he could survive the skeleton surgery.
Kai's theme is a bop to.
Kai’s soundtrack is my favorite tbh
Oogway lost himself so that po can reach to his true potential by fighting kai
Ke-Pa is stronger than Kai, since he actually nearly defeated Oogway *IN HIS PRIME* and nearly killed centuries later Po. This guy should have been the final villian of the series as he would complete the trinity of the animal types I just like to make here: Mammal, Bird and Reptile.
Afterwards we would have gotten an Amphibian, a Fish and a Mollusc to complete another trinity .
For the Arthopods, we would ge a Worm, a Butterfly and a Crab to complete that set and nit necessarily in that order.