DD15 low oil pressure and what to look for.
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- čas přidán 15. 10. 2019
- What to look for when you have low oil pressure on your DD15, the DD13 is very similar so this video can be used towards both. If you have a low oil pressure fault code or your oil pressure is below normal. You should stop and have it looked at immediately.
Normal oil pressure when the engine is cold should be greater than 60 psi, as the oil temp begins to rise, normal operating temperature, the pressure will drop and at idle should around 15-25 psi.
In this particular incident my customer would get to a stop and the oil pressure would drop for a split second to ZERO. Luckily we were able to repair the issue and get the truck back on the road. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
What a great follow-up! You are a great person, Carlos
Mr Fuentes I want to give you your props , I was having this problem with my dd13 only started a few days ago so I was researching and came across your video on this subject and I've done a lot of work myself on this truck and truck b4 this , but you made it seem like yo guys it's not rocket science, but don't rush it be careful and most of all clean everything, and torque all the bolts , it's tedious but must be done, anyway thanks again for this video my dude 👊👍
Didn't even think to spin the tubes while I've put oil pan gaskets in. Definitely helps to know this check
Real informative!! Thank You
I've changed these plenty of times they usually go bad around 450k
As ALWAYS..VERY BIG HELP CARLOS,THY
This was helpful im getting mine done tomorrow
Daron Cofield awesome.
Me too
THANKS , YOU HELP ME TO SAVE A LOT MONEY!!!
Glad you enjoyed to video and are able to get back on the road.
Perfect! Thx man!
AGREE , change the module as well.. I only changed the seals it's 70 percent better but not I have to drop it all again and do the the module.
Did you change the module if so did it fix your problem?
@@redboyizewhy, you replaced just the orings and nothing changed? Same here
Thank you
Thanks 🙏 a million you’re dope
You are welcome. Glad you liked it
I see you said to someone y’all located in montebello I’m a truck driver and I currently got a delivery heading to Stockton coming from Oregon. And I been trying to coordinate where should I go along my way back east to stop and get the work done I got a 2015 freight liner cascadia same issue a mechanic told me that it could be the o ring a and watch the pressure gauge. Anyway I say all that to say if you had all the parts you said in the video how long would it take and estimated cost if you don’t mind?
@@derrickoliver3835 send me the last 6 of the VIN. I need to check parts and availability. There has been a factory back order on some Detroit parts. Especially the suction module.
3AKJGLD51FSGM8624b thanks 🙏 again for responding
@Carlos Diesel Electric ? That oil pan drain plug. Where can those be purchased. I'm going into mine to check them o-rings.
Also any tips, for removing my cam shaft housing. I'm just about prepared to replace the camshaft housing gasket.
Im told to only remove the 10mm bolts that bolt through to the cylinder head that way everthing else (cams, camshaft caps, valves..., come up & off with the camshaft housing
pg 83 in the manual shows a picture with
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Hey Brother can you please make a video on priming the oil system. I've never heard that before and want to see it done. Once again thank you for your video. Hey I'm gonna send you a Go-Pro head camera to make the video making process easier on you
I am working on a DD15 over haul, i will make a video just on the oil priming. I agree, a Go Pro would be great to help film
my truck 2013 cascadia dd15 has burned oil i get check engine light whats the issue when i add oil the engine light goes away thnks
Thanks
This guy s really I lost mine because of this issue, went to mechanic but he said I have to plug computer and I don’t have it and he told me to take it to dealer same day engine seized I towed the truck to his workshop again and he told me i need to buy starter i bought the starter and he put it in and when not started he tried to turn the engine from front and finally he told me the engine looked up he charged me for the starter, big loss guys.
Pana cuanto sale este trabajo para un coronado del 2015 tengo el mismo motor !!
Great🎉🎉❤
Que tal maestro mi camión es un modelo 2009 y tiene el mismo módulo de succión que muestra en su video y andaba presentando el camión problemas de baja presión de aceite y más cuando frenaba la unidad prendía el foco de presión baja, se le cambió bomba y juntas de los tubos y siguió así pero nos dimos cuánta que la junta que tenia el módulo de succión hizo que se rompiera un cuarto de la ceja de la circunferencia dónde va la junta que sube al motor, me imagino que eso es lo que provoca la baja de presión de aceite, apenas se pidió a la agencia el módulo de succión ya que lo instalemos espero que la presión de aceite suba a 60 psi en frío y en caliente no baje tanto para que no se apague el camión
Carlos how do you look up for a part using vin #? I use year and model and never works for me . 2013 freightliner cascadia DD15
JOSE RAMIREZ VIN will always be used by dealerships and authorized vendors. Most other parts places (stores or online) use year, make and model. That will work on most common parts.
Great video Carlos ty for sharing... quick ?? Is 10psi normsl at 600r, idle . FL with DD15 ...
Did you ever find out if 10psi was normal or what was the problem?
The o rings, do you install them on the tubes or in the holes? Thanks.
I always install them on the tubes, apply some assembly lube (lubriplate No. 105). Once you install the rings on the tubes, use the assembly lube to help it slide into place. The lube will go dissipate once the oil warms up.
I had similar problem truck drop oil pressure then heard a knocking sound..shop was so far behind they couldn’t fix it.Im concerned about the knocking sound but they did take valve cover and valves were all good..any thought on what the sound could be?
Any knocking sound is always a concern especially with low oil pressure. Have you been able to drive or run the engine since this happened?
I would personally look into the lower end of the engine. Look at the tubes, can you spin them? How many miles are on the truck?
Good job Carlos where is you shop located? Let me know please?
We are in Montebello, Ca. 90640.
3:53 where did you get that info from? do you know any free websites that give that info like in the book?
I don't know of any websites, I advise to buy the books. Try looking up DDC-SVC-MAN-0081
Please show me the documentation about the s60 engine.
what sealant do you use on the oil pan gasket?
Skyler Nestor in the corners, I use Permatex gasket maker Ultra Grey.
I need to do this myself
Hello. I have a 2015 cascadia DD15. I had my pick up tubes oil pump gaskets replaced. But I just found out that my mechanic didn’t change out the oil suction manifold. With that being said now I don’t have NO oil pressure so I’m getting someone to replace everything again including the oil suction manifold this time. Would I need to get a new oil pump again? It was replaced 2 months ago?
Oil pumps very seldom fail on the DD15 and DD13.
Also try replacing the oil pressure sensor.
Once everything is replaced, SUPER important to prime the oil system with at least 2-3 gallons in addition to the 10-11 gallons you are going to add. before trying to start the engine. I also like to soak the oil filter with clean motor oil.
Did you replace the manifold in the oil pan if so how did it do ??
Carlos how much does a oil pump and metals replacement cost
Jonatan Solis by metals, I assume you are talking about main and rod bearings?
Do you use hardening or non hardening permatex?
Jayden Centifanti on the seals I only use assembly lube or clean motor oil to allow the seals to slide in. The seals will seal properly once they are installed and the engine starts to run.
I have a 2017 freightliner cascadia about 560000 miles and my oil gauge fluctuates up and down never steady, at a complete stop it goes low when I press the gas pedal to go it goes up and back down at complete stop again. Any suggestions could this be the pickup tubes or oil pressure sensor?
I would definitely start with the oil suction module and the seals on the tubes. ASAP
I have seen this many times and it is most critical you have it looked at right away.
Did you make that engine oil priming tool, did you make or is it a OEM part? Can you give a part # and the procedure to prime lube system? Thank you.
Ulises Gonzalez the tools is something made by Kent Moore. I’ll look up the part number and post shortly.
I think I’ll make a video on priming the oil system. This is a critical step when replacing the oil pump and suction module and when doing and inframe.
Thank you for the update, and I believe it would be a real informative video...
@@pedal2dametal686 17 mm allen to remove the plug.
What’s the normal, warm oil pressure at about 15,000 rpms?
About 50 psi or higher
My oil pressure drops when it's. I'm going after it's more about what should I do about it? The dealer said it. They needed a new fuel pump which I put on also
When the oil pressure drops, is this when you are coming to a stop? At idle? While you are driving?
At what mileage would you recommend replacing these seals?
I don’t want to wait until oil pressure start dropping
I have seen this issue at around 500K-600K miles and even as late as 800K miles.
Best bet is to look at your oil pressure when your engine is completely cold. It should be at or above 60 PSI. at idle when you initially start your engine.
my oil psi is 65 to 70 cold at idle but drops to around 15 hot. Is this my o-rings or could it be a different issue? 2014 dd15 with 655,000
@@j.cannon2021 Did you ever find out what the problem was? I am asking because my 2015 does the same exact thing.
@@daviduribe2560 same here
So you recommend replacing the pickup tube because you had to remove it already? You didn't want to replace the front pump where the front of the tubes went into that were spinning? Trying to understand your thought of why replacing the pickup vs just cleaning it and replacing the seals. Not like it had metal through it , top is aluminum where the tubes and rings are , but so is the front oil pump where the front of the tubes went into that you didn't bother replacing.Trying to understand WHY you replaced that but didnt bother replacing the front pump where the tubes went into.......
The oil pump is very reliable, the failure typically occurs at the pickup tube (suction module) and the orings will harden and allow oil escape.
The suction module has an internal valve that fails and will get stuck.
In my opinion, I automatically replace the suction module and the orings because I don’t want to run the risk of it failing on my watch.
Now if this is something you are doing on your own truck then it’s your decision to make. But I don’t want the responsibility of engine failure because I didn’t want to change a part that cost less than $200.
For a Cascadia 2019 what would be the pressure hot and cold. Thanks
The 2019 engines use 10W-30 which will give slightly lower PSI.
Cold PSI should be at about 60 at idle
Hot PSI should be at 15-19 at idle
At idle you have different PSI, at a higher RPM you have a different PSI. Which were you asking about?
Is it really necessary to prime the oil system?
Can you just start it up, let it run till the oil pressure comes up?
It is a precaution, priming the oil is to prevent engine seizure or failure in the event you have along crank situation engine failure can occur.
Priming the oil system takes a few minutes and is well worth it.
@@CarlosDieselElectric
Thank you
Hi that such , where can I get the maintenance manual I use
Yo lo compre en el dealer aquí en el sur de California.
El lugar se llama Valley Power Systems City of Industry, Ca.
How do i know when its time to change oil pump, does it gives you any warning, can you please let me know
MrDeepa32 when the engine is cold and you start the engine. Oil pressure should always be at 60 psi or more at idle.
Also, look to see if the needle fluctuates or does it hold steady.
Carlos Diesel Electric thank you sir
REMUS that sounds about right. Hot oil thins out, this is why at idle you have 20 psi and at higher RPM you have 60 psi.
What is the PSI when the engine is cold? At start up?
REMUS that is good. That is where it needs to be. Of course once the engine warms up the PSI will be lower. But it sounds like you are on the right track
@@CarlosDieselElectric this is exactly what K was looking for on my question. When engine is cold start mine is about 65 psi and when idling it drops to between 20-25 psi. Thank you for all your support
My dear brother, it is possible to know how to prepare the oil pump correctly
I have a video, but I think I will make one with more detail
But i just hovarol a freightliner went i start it stops engine light coming on
You need to check right away. Start with oil pressure sensor, how long has it been since you changed the oil?
You might have to remove the oil pan and inspect the pick up tube and seals. Recommend you do this asap.
Does Freightliner cover this under the EW6 warranty?
Warranty coverage has changed. The engine warranty or power train is separate from injector coverage. After treatment coverage is another and transmission is another.
All are extra and have limited mileage and or time.
So I couldn’t tell you for sure if it is covered Best bet is to call the dealership and provide the last six of the vin. They can verify
I'm pretty sure it's the plastic section manifolds that have the problem. The o-rings are a problem on either style I'm sure. I'm actually trying to research and find out if the plastic and cast aluminum suction manifolds are in fact interchangeable. Freightliner will tell you they're not even if they are so that's not a good source. It seems like it would be a direct swap. The metal one isn't going to crack from oil pressure and blow out like the plastic ones do. Those fail on the pressure side, the o-rings tend to fail on the vacuum side
I agree with you. The older DD engines that first came out didn’t have the failure rate these plastic ones do. They are garbage IMO,
I was told they will not line up underneath when they are installed. Something about the bolts on the suction module to the block. I have personally never checked.
My psi at 1500 rpms is 60 65 psi 1000 rpms is 50 psi is that normal
A question, only freightliner has these tube,o ring?
The DD13 and DD15 engines have this setup.
Would you happen to know what normal oil pressure at idle is for a dd13
DD13, DD15 and DD16 should all be the same.
At idle, cold engine, the oil psi should be >60 psi. Once the oil temp gets to 150 or higher, the oil psi at idle should be around 20 psi.
@@CarlosDieselElectric for sure. Thank you, good sir!
@@CarlosDieselElectric could bad o rings on the tubes cause the oil pressure to drop fast when braking or slowing down?
@@albertcruz3232 definitely. Bad O-Rings can cause oil pressure to drop when braking or coming to a stop. I would advise to replace the 4 (2 on each tube) O-Rings and the suction module ASAP.
@@CarlosDieselElectric sounds good, thank you!
Hello there. The oil pressure of my truck is 75psi. Is it normal? Hope you can reply thank you
Are you talking when you first start the engine and it’s cold at idle?
@@CarlosDieselElectric Yes it is
@@peterli5556 60-75 psi is good on a cold engine. As the oil warms up the psi will go lower which is normal.
But it seems like your psi is good. What is the psi when it hot and at idle?
@@CarlosDieselElectric 45PSI about
Any reason you didn't inspect main bearings while you had pu tube off. Just a thought..even running your finger to feel any damage.. would save the driver money and to prepare him if its bad.
Really great question, we actually did pull off the number 5 main bearing for inspection (normal wear) and did recommend replacement because he is over 800K miles. However the customer just replaced all 6 injectors (during this same visit) and money was very tight at this point. He declined and said he would come back. I believe he will come back, he is a long time customer.
@@CarlosDieselElectric yes I'm thinking the same with my engine while I'm under there
Can you pls help regards to 2011 cascadia water temp is high while I stop and idle to take brake it goes 205 210. Pls help
Jeremy Kura have you replaced the thermostat?
@@CarlosDieselElectric I did. Replace thermostat 2weeks ago, radiator water pamp 6 month a go and changed injector cup seal a month ago cause mixed fuel with coolant. So problem is happening after did work on injector cups and also my bunk heater core was licking so just make the hose kind u turn.
Jeremy Kura I am sure you did. But did you flush the coolant system? If you did how many times,
@@CarlosDieselElectricfirst 1 or 2 time with small amount of dish soap after that just with water 3 time. and then I used system cleaner, after system cleaner 2 or 3 time just water finally I changed all the hoses new. Bay the way I run the engine between cleaning to operating temp 150 - Took me almost 2 week cleaning. May be to much cleaning but making sure no more fuel smell.
@@jeremy143bezi So let me try to understand this, the coolant temp rises to 205-210. When does the fan clutch engage? When it does engage at around 220-225, where does the temp drop to?
Hey man great video. Question: I have a 2015 dd13 and my oil gauge goes down to about 20 psi when idling, sometimes is at 25 but it does go down to 20 pis at times. Is this something I should worry about and probably have the O- rings replaced and oil module? Thank you
Hey David did you find the issue? just saw my oil gauge doing that yesterday in my DD15
UPDATE
@@fredrickdacosta1407
Hello, apologize for the late response.
I changed everything that is mentioned in this video. Suction oil module, O-rings, oil pan gasket seal, oil pan bolts. After changes made my oil pressure went up to almost 75 when cold start. And 25 or 30 when hot idling.
I recommend making all changes. Goo luck
@@daviduribe2560 normal pressure is at 30 psi when hot?
Crappy o rings on these engines ?
Like most seals, after time and exposure to heat they become hard and brittle
How much a job like that cost
Anderson james parts will depend slightly on what year truck you have. The first DD15 engine parts were a little more expensive, then slight modifications were made and pricing dropped a little.
But typically in labor you are looking at 6-8. What year is your truck?
My oil psi is at 40 cruising around 70mph 1300rpm is that low?
What year is the truck?
How many miles?
How often are you changing your oil?
What kind of oil are you using?
@Pedro Fuentes I just bought it. It's a 2020 dd15 400hp with 460k miles. 10w30 oil they used I believe. Just worried bc my friends truck is at 50 psi mine is 40
@@notkirill6991 start with an oil change using good quality motor oil and a factory oil filter. Also, replace the oil pressure sensor for good measure.
Start there.
Remember, oil change first, start the engine and verify oil pressure is good before you replace the fuel filters (not sure if you were going to. But if you did)
Never change both at the same time. These trucks are not like the oils Series 60 or Cummins N14, M11.
@Pedro Fuentes ok I will try that, so you'd say 40 psi is lower than normal?
@@notkirill6991 do a road test and have someone plug in, this way they can physically monitor the PSI while driving. Does seem a little low, but if you have a warranty through Detroit have them look at in. Most trucks have an extended warranty on the motor.
Damm to much work we use 2 hydraulic Jack's and be done in couple hours
JOSE VASQUEZ it definitely isn’t fun. But you do it enough times and you get faster 😆
I just don’t understand how do you only have 3600 subscribers that’s bull crap .
The channel is growing little by little but it’s all good.
Appreciate the support
what is the normal oil pressure when idling hot?
15-20 psi
Did you have low oil pressure if so how low and what fixed it?
Hi how long does this job take?
Around 6-8 hours.