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  • Everyone has a mother. Even the Primarchs, so it's no suprise that their recently revealed mum is a pretty interesting character herself.
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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  Před 3 lety +480

    inb4 I get inundated with Primarch Mother Hentai requests - knowing me, will probably happen....
    To see it when that and lots of other fun things when it comes out go here : www.patreon.com/majorkill

    • @derpbutt9572
      @derpbutt9572 Před 3 lety +3

      Beans

    • @derpbutt9572
      @derpbutt9572 Před 3 lety +3

      Major kill were are all the black people in 40k

    • @oddish2253
      @oddish2253 Před 3 lety +4

      Her name was Tess, Tess Tube or Tess Sue I can't remember I read the lore a long time ago

    • @thewalnutknight2760
      @thewalnutknight2760 Před 3 lety +12

      As my captain general stated "ME MUM WAS A TUBE!!!!"

    • @01MrCapricorn
      @01MrCapricorn Před 3 lety +1

      Where's all the dirty Big E Hentai, eh? Time for that Big Dicked Eldar boyfriends calendar!

  • @bensagnella757
    @bensagnella757 Před 3 lety +1947

    Primarch mom: Go my children be free
    Angron getting nails shoved into his brain: Thanks mom
    Konrad being dropped off at the worst planet: This is fine

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 Před 3 lety +177

      Karens immaright
      thinks she knows everything and everything she does instantly makes the situation a million times better
      in reality makes it a billion times worse.

    • @minhducnguyen674
      @minhducnguyen674 Před 3 lety +58

      Morty and Pert would go full on passive aggressive

    • @squeaky1963
      @squeaky1963 Před 3 lety +79

      well i guess we know where magnus' propensity for helping but sucking at helping comes from

    • @nothuman3083
      @nothuman3083 Před 3 lety +17

      @@minhducnguyen674 both would actually react differently if they knew, pert would forgive her since she tried to look out for his own interests and allow him to make himself as he sees fit. It would've changed his character drastically. He would've moved his attention to build something instead of being the war bringer.
      Mortarian wouldn't have forgiven her at all, she sent him hell. He wouldn't forgive her, he would've shunned her. Magnus, ferris manus, Vulcan, hell even konrad would've built a close relationship. And would've come out differently

    • @minhducnguyen674
      @minhducnguyen674 Před 3 lety +17

      @@nothuman3083 You might be right, Pert cares more about presents than the past. That's how pragmatic he was. All it takes is some acknowledgement of his talent from his mother and he will be cool. Russ always wanted more people into his family. Cuzr may be forgiving about it because he has unnatural understanding people and has a Wierd sense of justice. Morty will absolutely hate her because he hate being manipulated and being thrown into that planet is not something he's fond of. Which is ironic because he hate weakness and love freedom. But had he grew up on a more comfortable planet without the harsh life on Chemost , he might not care about strength or freedom

  • @marrvynswillames4975
    @marrvynswillames4975 Před 3 lety +2022

    "Karen took the kids"
    the Emperor, M30

    • @middleground7108
      @middleground7108 Před 3 lety +120

      Even in brim darkness of future Karens hunt you down

    • @CoolSmoovie
      @CoolSmoovie Před 3 lety +72

      Even the (Not God But Close Enough) Emperor is still more of a man than he knows

    • @malekiththeeternityking5433
      @malekiththeeternityking5433 Před 3 lety +74

      She can keep Angron

    • @uselesscasul3164
      @uselesscasul3164 Před 3 lety +12

      Emperor of Mankind why are you such a dick to Angron?

    • @malekiththeeternityking5433
      @malekiththeeternityking5433 Před 3 lety +11

      @@uselesscasul3164 Because I knew he would betray me so I not only never cared what he did or hpw I treated him I went out of my way to get his resentment

  • @nyechapple5332
    @nyechapple5332 Před 3 lety +479

    So its confirmed, Empies last whispered words to Dorn were not to inter him on the Golden throne, but instead:
    "Tell Erda..... i told you so"

  • @thestriker6922
    @thestriker6922 Před 3 lety +763

    Mom: *gives kids to Chaos*
    Big E: ehhhhh i’ll find em eventually

    • @luizhenriquealves9755
      @luizhenriquealves9755 Před 3 lety +104

      "Your child proteting services cannot whistand my superior imperialist powers for long woman" - The Emperor of Manking, probably

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou Před 3 lety +32

      *One of said childs proceeds to stab the Emperor*

    • @luizhenriquealves9755
      @luizhenriquealves9755 Před 3 lety +18

      @@AAhmou Yeah but he was an adult trowing a hissing fit when he did that

    • @malekiththeeternityking5433
      @malekiththeeternityking5433 Před 3 lety +22

      "Don't trust Thots" Mahatmas Ghandi

    • @thesecondprimarch7694
      @thesecondprimarch7694 Před 3 lety +3

      @@malekiththeeternityking5433 oh so we should disregard everything you say?

  • @PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven
    @PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven Před 3 lety +1371

    I thought their mother was a tube Rogal Dorn confirmed this

    • @Sereze001
      @Sereze001 Před 3 lety +218

      Rogal Dorn is currently unavailable.
      As such, I was sent to deliver the message in his name.
      Yes.
      -Rogal Dorn

    • @westernstealth873
      @westernstealth873 Před 3 lety +134

      “I’LL SLAP YER SHIT IN I SWEAR ON ME MUM!
      ME MUM WAS A TUBE!!
      A TUBE IN MOUNT FUCKIN’ EVEREST!
      FuCk!
      MOM EVEREST!”
      -(Little) Kitten, Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodies

    • @kurodracovalladares8823
      @kurodracovalladares8823 Před 3 lety +53

      that "Test Tube" has a name her name is Erda

    • @joeclerkin2653
      @joeclerkin2653 Před 3 lety +40

      Kurodraco Valladares not ‘Mom Everest’??

    • @luizhenriquealves9755
      @luizhenriquealves9755 Před 3 lety +11

      @@joeclerkin2653 Wasn't that for custodes only?

  • @admiralhugo40k
    @admiralhugo40k Před 3 lety +1483

    Malcador, the Emperor's only true friend. Bros before

    • @sirshotty7689
      @sirshotty7689 Před 3 lety +88

      Bros before absolute idiots.

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 Před 3 lety +61

      Erda should be banished to The Retconnian!

    • @sirshotty7689
      @sirshotty7689 Před 3 lety +22

      Vince Lumontad isnt erda the one who sent the primarchs into the warp?

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 Před 3 lety +40

      @@sirshotty7689 That was the GW retcon. The ones who sent the Primarchs into the Warp were the time traveling Chaos Word Bearers

    • @sirshotty7689
      @sirshotty7689 Před 3 lety +48

      Vince Lumontad ah yes, I don't want my children to be used in warfare even though I was fine with it from the start so I'll send MY OWN CHILDREN THROUGH SUPER HELL! Makes sense.

  • @edpistemic
    @edpistemic Před 3 lety +623

    Chaos thought they were manipulating Erda into delivering the Primarchs to them.
    Erda thought she was double-crossing Chaos by using the Warp to get the Primarchs to safety away from both the Big E and Chaos.
    Big E TRIPLE-crossed Chaos AND Erda by letting them do it - but ensuring his boys went to the exact planets they needed to go to in order to become exactly what he wanted them to be.

    • @skydrivexx9577
      @skydrivexx9577 Před 3 lety +193

      meanwhile
      tzeentch: JUST AS PLANNED

    • @mantokaspiri5405
      @mantokaspiri5405 Před 3 lety +83

      Meanwhile ceogorath hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahshahahahhahahaha

    • @yeoldchief7711
      @yeoldchief7711 Před 3 lety +37

      Not true, Kurze was meant for deliverance and vica versa.

    • @keanueraine
      @keanueraine Před 3 lety +40

      This is the only acceptable answer as currently written. If this is not cannon, then I'm sticking with the pre-Erdra Lore.

    • @danielhanson2417
      @danielhanson2417 Před 3 lety +21

      Why would she be double crossing chaos by sending them into the warp it’s quite literally the realm of chaos. It takes .5 seconds of reasoning to figure that out

  • @ShadrackMeduson
    @ShadrackMeduson Před 3 lety +847

    the probelm with her character is that she shows no moral reaction to her moral decision, she claims she did this as an act of love, because she wanted the primarchs to be free from the emperors plans, but she shows no reaction to the fact that nearly half of them landed on planets that could have killed them, 3 of them got fucked over like no other being in the galaxy (mortarion, angron, konrad), she shows no reaction to the fact that there is a war caused by horus and now the primarchs are trying to kill each other, she shows no reaction to the fact that 4 primarchs are deamon princes by now and 2 are dead and 2 long gone. If a character shows no moral reaction to the horrible consecuences of a moral decision, then that moral decision becomes pointless and stupid.

    • @minhducnguyen674
      @minhducnguyen674 Před 3 lety +129

      At least she should have been working relentlessly all those times to fix her mistakes for both practical and moral reasons. I don't she adding the primarchs mother a bad thing as it can lead to interesting story lines. Problems is gw is well-known for executing a good concept terribly

    • @ammarpratama1207
      @ammarpratama1207 Před 3 lety +36

      Karens are at it again!

    • @lazymansload520
      @lazymansload520 Před 3 lety +26

      When did she show this reaction? If it was centuries after the event, she may have had time to get over feeling sad, and adjust to a new reality that whatever she does either plays into the hands of the emperor or chaos, so why bother

    • @KopitioBozynski
      @KopitioBozynski Před 3 lety +36

      @@lazymansload520 There is being sad then there is fucking everything up. Out of everything in 40k why should she be any different?

    • @Ethereal-23
      @Ethereal-23 Před 3 lety +94

      sounds like she and Emps were perfect for each other...

  • @kaneslives
    @kaneslives Před 3 lety +702

    OH you should do a video on Gullimen's adoptive mother!
    Edit: Nah even better,do a video on all the adopted parents of the Primarchs.

    • @Cpt.Str4ng3
      @Cpt.Str4ng3 Před 3 lety +37

      Isnt his eldar waifu basicly his stepmom? 🤔

    • @sonofjack6286
      @sonofjack6286 Před 3 lety +50

      @@Cpt.Str4ng3 That his bae.

    • @Nightbanekaizer
      @Nightbanekaizer Před 3 lety +9

      I'd like to see that. Some have interesting backgrounds potentially.

    • @hazardouz9935
      @hazardouz9935 Před 3 lety +18

      @@Cpt.Str4ng3 in some slaneesh plot, Yes

    • @Cpt.Str4ng3
      @Cpt.Str4ng3 Před 3 lety +18

      @@hazardouz9935 the grimlewd.

  • @endrelad1306
    @endrelad1306 Před 3 lety +441

    "Me mum was a mountain"
    -Kitten

    • @AhmedAli-hi4si
      @AhmedAli-hi4si Před 3 lety +46

      Me mum was a tube you wanker

    • @alexandrebirk1948
      @alexandrebirk1948 Před 3 lety +32

      @@AhmedAli-hi4si in fucking Everest!!!!

    • @westernstealth873
      @westernstealth873 Před 3 lety +45

      “I’LL SLAP YER SHIT IN I SWEAR ON ME MUM!
      ME MUM WAS A TUBE!!
      A TUBE IN MOUNT FUCKIN’ EVEREST!
      FuCk!
      MOM EVEREST!”
      -(Little) Kitten, Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodies

    • @panickedpan875
      @panickedpan875 Před 3 lety +22

      @@alexandrebirk1948 MUMEVEREST!!

    • @alexandrebirk1948
      @alexandrebirk1948 Před 3 lety +13

      @@panickedpan875 WHAT !!!

  • @hilkmeister1382
    @hilkmeister1382 Před 3 lety +627

    While it does make since that the primarches would need a mom; I can’t help but feel she is shoehorned in. I would have tried to write her into to the story rather than just go SHE’S THE PRIMARCHES MOM, NO MORE QUESTIONS.

    • @memesterjohnson1402
      @memesterjohnson1402 Před 3 lety +13

      Yeah

    • @jackstrayfeald1007
      @jackstrayfeald1007 Před 3 lety +77

      I feel the same, and I really don't like that. You could disagree, but this could be the start of Warhammer 40k doing a Star Wars.

    • @luizhenriquealves9755
      @luizhenriquealves9755 Před 3 lety +26

      Shoehorned? Maybe. Can they use her to make good lore of at least interesting plot twists? Let's wait and see.

    • @bencox3641
      @bencox3641 Před 3 lety +72

      This is how I will have done it, after Erda help scatter the Primarchs the Emperor was blinded by rage and killed her. Using his psychic powers to completely destroy her soul, permanently killing her. The chaos gods show this to Hours and a few other Primarchs to get them to rebel against the Emperor.

    • @Nightbanekaizer
      @Nightbanekaizer Před 3 lety +23

      @@bencox3641 Actually I think she could have a future purpose. She lives in an age now where Guilliman is the only Primarch around. What if he meets her? There is much he could learn both helpful or maybe dangerous dark secrets that could bring doom to the world and it would greatly depend on what he does with such information.

  • @cerberus9832
    @cerberus9832 Před 3 lety +109

    What's next? Malcador was their uncle? Dunno what tho think about this, GW has been 'busy' changing stuff, and I hate tzeentch so I hate change

    • @phaedrosx
      @phaedrosx Před 3 lety +26

      Umm... well... hate to tell ya this, but at least some of the Primarchs did view Malcador the Hero as their uncle. So get rekt I guess?

    • @catnium
      @catnium Před 3 lety +16

      The emp used his dna, animal dna, some sugar, some spice, everything nice and ofc chemical X
      aka some malcadors man juice to build the primarch seed

    • @Emrod82
      @Emrod82 Před 3 lety +9

      Fun fact, Sanguinus was calling Malcaldor ''uncle'' sometimes.

    • @mugenokami2201
      @mugenokami2201 Před 2 lety +1

      One theory I saw was mal was one of those shamen that made the big e. He didn’t kill himself cause someone needed to watch and take care of what that mass ritual susaide would create

  • @bjarnivalur6330
    @bjarnivalur6330 Před 3 lety +181

    "Every child has a mother and father, 0 exemptions"
    The Emperor: "I do not have such weaknesses"

    • @CorvusCorone68
      @CorvusCorone68 Před 3 lety +35

      no he too had parents, it's just that his psyche was fortified by the zillions of shamans doing that mass suicide

    • @Fifthmiracle
      @Fifthmiracle Před 3 lety +7

      @@CorvusCorone68 He has a gestalt soul, numerous lifetimes fused into a single being.

    • @arcotroll8530
      @arcotroll8530 Před 2 lety +11

      @@Fifthmiracle Yes, but that soul began his existence way back when, when he was born to human parents in Asia-Minor at around 8.000 BC

    • @dikvijaysingh5896
      @dikvijaysingh5896 Před rokem +1

      @@arcotroll8530 Always knew the emperor was a middle eastern chad

    • @arcotroll8530
      @arcotroll8530 Před rokem +3

      @@dikvijaysingh5896 Asia-Minor, modern day Turkey, is not exactly in the Middle East though, and neither was he "Turkish" if that's what you're implying, even if he wasn't fictional. Neither was he "Greek", "Armenian", "Arab" or any other of these ethnicities because none of them existed yet back then.

  • @templarhelmet3844
    @templarhelmet3844 Před 3 lety +141

    An animator taking in constructive criticism while ignoring the trolls AND striving for improvement?
    Unheard of.

    • @catnium
      @catnium Před 3 lety +1

      def not named mark thats for sure

  • @Natonian9
    @Natonian9 Před 3 lety +86

    *primarchs' mother...
    Being an Aussie is no excuse for bad grammar
    -brought to you by the Word Bearers

    • @Irmarinen
      @Irmarinen Před 3 lety +1

      So, even in 40k there are grammar nazis. I should've expected that.

  • @cristianturbian2513
    @cristianturbian2513 Před 3 lety +269

    I loved to think of the primarchs as simil-clones of the Emperor, having only his "pure" DNA modified to make some of his traits more prevalent than others. In fact it is always been said that each primarch personify a specific trait of the Emperor.
    I don't know, it seems to me this vision works no more if there is a second DNA involved into the primarchs creation.
    I also loved the kind of father-sons aspect of the story (even if sick and brutal). Knowing there is a mother now who was nowhere to be found for 10 thousand years seems just stupid.

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 Před 3 lety +19

      @@SwedishBroManDude big E was NOT there for his sons dude if you read the lore on all the primarchs the only one he was there for was Horus and he was Daddys little boy when he found the others he basically just spent the immortal equivalent of like a week with them then handed them a Space Marine Legion and said "there ya go Son tell the grandkids i love em byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeee" then they never saw each other again for like a couple centuries.

    • @squeaky1963
      @squeaky1963 Před 3 lety +4

      @@SwedishBroManDude magnus...

    • @diegogutierrez1997
      @diegogutierrez1997 Před 3 lety +20

      The only thing that this retcon adds to the lore is that we now know where did failures as Lorgar came from. I mean, it's really doubtful that nature vs nurture comes into play when you are engineered from perfection and raw might, there must have been something bad in thrown into the mix.

    • @hanalexcranealister6799
      @hanalexcranealister6799 Před 2 lety +4

      At least they could have played it off as she took the babies in a ship and tried to escape Big E, but the 4 chaos gods joined hands and make like a portal that destroyed the ship, killed the mother and in her last breath she was able to use the warp to scatter the babies so that way at least we know that why the reason she wasnt mention was because she was dead and Big E didnt mention her.

    • @barahng
      @barahng Před 2 lety +1

      @@michaelkean5969 He was kinda busy. And the Primarchs were all adults by the time the Emperor found them, yet they still act like petulant children centuries later.

  • @GreyJuggernaut
    @GreyJuggernaut Před 3 lety +53

    Gotta agree with the idea of showing Big E being helped by other perpetuals as a way to point out that he isn't a perfect individual, makes him all the more human rather than a god (as he would want to be seen). It's a much better way of showing his imperfections than making him incompetent, or uncaring towards matters that could and probably did change the end result of the Horus Heresy.

  • @malekiththeeternityking5433

    That woman tried to ruin everything just because I didn't give her my Emperors sword

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 Před 3 lety +324

    Their mother was called mumeverest

    • @westernstealth873
      @westernstealth873 Před 3 lety +22

      “I’LL SLAP YER SHIT IN I SWEAR ON ME MUM!
      ME MUM WAS A TUBE!!
      A TUBE IN MOUNT FUCKIN’ EVEREST!
      FuCk!
      MOM EVEREST!”
      -(Little) Kitten, Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodies

    • @timothybelleci3554
      @timothybelleci3554 Před 3 lety +2

      I get that refrance

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 Před 3 lety +8

      Still a better mom than Erda

    • @gaza8018
      @gaza8018 Před 3 lety +10

      @@TheWarmachine375 facts

    • @AG_HP7
      @AG_HP7 Před 3 lety +2

      Miii mum wasss a tube

  • @titanking9130
    @titanking9130 Před 3 lety +77

    Malcador was Big E’s only true friend

    • @catnium
      @catnium Před 3 lety +6

      some say he was ...his brother...
      all of the primarchs have aspects of the emperors own powers
      one of the primarchs was twins

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 Před 3 lety +3

      Malcador's past is just as Unknown as the Emperor's himself there is rumors that he was a rival warlord before the imperium's rise and he lost to the emperor in battle and was spared because the emperor show kinship in him.

    • @gilcraftsource
      @gilcraftsource Před 2 lety +1

      That's what malcador thinks 😂

    • @retsakl8085
      @retsakl8085 Před 2 lety +1

      Alivia Sureka has been added long time friend of the emperor and the savior of malcador

    • @lonewolf9578
      @lonewolf9578 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Bros before hoes

  • @BonePapi
    @BonePapi Před 3 lety +70

    If these two women did so much crap towards Big E then it would be easier to have Big E remove their immortality and kill them for good, he's the Big E, pretty sure he could do this with ease.

    • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231
      @thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Před 3 lety

      Even he has his limits tho

    • @TaylorLiam87
      @TaylorLiam87 Před 3 lety +11

      Amar Astarte wasn't a perpetual and died in the book valdor: birth of the imperium as she tries to destroy all the space marine gene work.

    • @nikolayvladimirov8633
      @nikolayvladimirov8633 Před 3 lety +6

      Personally I think if Erda appeared in the current time and tries something with the G Man daddy E is going to kill her no questions asked

    • @marrvynswillames4975
      @marrvynswillames4975 Před 3 lety +9

      He didnt cared, to be honest, he knew where Erda was but never cared. And Amar killed herself anyway.
      Its kinda like the minister in The Master of Mankind, he didnt cared with her rebelious plans, he only killed her for stealing water

    • @thesecondprimarch7694
      @thesecondprimarch7694 Před 3 lety +1

      There is a weapon called a Fulgrite which is made by the emperor specifically to kill perpeptuals

  • @Captain_Ironbeard
    @Captain_Ironbeard Před 3 lety +66

    Major: Vulcan is a good guy
    Eldar child: Sorry what?

    • @cristianvasilescu1544
      @cristianvasilescu1544 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you!

    • @hush9639
      @hush9639 Před 3 lety +12

      Xeno filth doesn’t count.

    • @cristianvasilescu1544
      @cristianvasilescu1544 Před 3 lety +6

      The machinations of "xeno filth" is what is currently keeping the imperium up and running. Also you don't count as a good guy when you are selectively good. Just saying...

    • @hush9639
      @hush9639 Před 3 lety

      @@cristianvasilescu1544 it was a joke

    • @cristianvasilescu1544
      @cristianvasilescu1544 Před 3 lety

      @@hush9639 I know but I was going along with the RP 😜

  • @thewalnutknight2760
    @thewalnutknight2760 Před 3 lety +217

    As my captain general stated "ME MUM WAS A TUBE!!!!"

  • @emperorschampion8471
    @emperorschampion8471 Před 3 lety +20

    I can just imagine malcador and big E chilling with a beer and the emperor get a bit drunk and try’s texting his ex till malcador has to stop him haha

  • @Gators-yo5fk
    @Gators-yo5fk Před 3 lety +32

    Major kill: I’ll be taking some Animation classes
    Astartes adventures Ep.2: **3D ASTARTES**

  • @billmarion5796
    @billmarion5796 Před 2 lety +30

    Imagine not wanting your children to become warlords so your solution is throwing them into an extremely hostile galaxy via the warp. What a great Mom.

    • @HalfGiant_101
      @HalfGiant_101 Před 7 měsíci +2

      She being manipulated by chaos. And she didn’t know what world they’d each land on.

    • @SM-cv8sv
      @SM-cv8sv Před 2 měsíci

      @@HalfGiant_101 That just makes her look even dumber

  • @Jagonath
    @Jagonath Před 3 lety +13

    Fun Fact: Erda lives in a huge crater made of concentric circles of coloured stone... on Terra. A crater that look's like an... Eye of Terra.
    One could almost say that the legend of how "The Primarchs were scattered by the Eye of Terror!" is just a mistranslation. Or something.

  • @kurodracovalladares8823
    @kurodracovalladares8823 Před 3 lety +22

    When Erda took the "Holy Load" and she didn't explode!

  • @n3nt2nd464
    @n3nt2nd464 Před 3 lety +19

    Everyone: Arguing about rather or not the primarchs having a mom is a good idea or not
    Me: I wonder how each of the primarchs would feel or interact with their mom

    • @nielsmichiels1939
      @nielsmichiels1939 Před 3 lety +10

      rogal: _"So i have a mother........."_ *(remains stoic faced)*

    • @n3nt2nd464
      @n3nt2nd464 Před 3 lety +8

      @@nielsmichiels1939 Vulkan: "Mama!" (gives bone crushing hug)

    • @zawojtek
      @zawojtek Před 3 lety +10

      @@nielsmichiels1939 Corvus Corax : "MOM IT IS NOT A PHASE !!!"

    • @joshuab4799
      @joshuab4799 Před 3 lety +6

      most of them would probably be extremely pissed at her for abandoning them and scattering them into the warp to be toyed with by the dark gods.

    • @yamiblade
      @yamiblade Před 3 lety +6

      Well...angron and Konrad probably won't stop murdering her once they find out she's why they landed on Nuceria and Nostramo

  • @emperormarcusaureliusanton5995

    "The Emperor needed help"
    HERESYYYYYYYYYYYYY

  • @The_Pie_apocalypse
    @The_Pie_apocalypse Před 3 lety +41

    You should do a video about the primarchs adoptive parents that raised them.

  • @jovej4455
    @jovej4455 Před 3 lety +51

    I still find it weird that a man that could literally summon the ghost of the dead to fight for him, create shit from nothing, fix machines with just a touch couldn't find a way to find a substitute for birth.

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 Před 3 lety +7

      even if the primarchs were test tube babies, they'd still need a maternal donation of DNA, cloning a person can be done in two ways. Taking genetic material from the subject and attempt to foster grwoth into a second copy of the subject, or by taking genetic donations from the parents (this would be a bit like rolling two 20 sided die and hoping for the same random result twice, but can be circumvented by modifying the genes within the donation prior to the firtilization stage) and then letting that grow in an artificial womb.

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 Před 10 měsíci +2

      His plan was effectively this: make the next stage of evolution
      Now… yes making them in a tube was what was needed for safety.
      But once you get the ball rolling you’d get the end result… problem is that Vulkhan was the only one to succeed in this to a certain degree.
      However keeping your eggs in just 1 basket was a bad idea because anyone could stomp that basket.
      So just spreading out to take land to act as a fertile land for these new beings to evolve and procreate to make the next evolutionary stage sounds like the next logical step.
      Make a empire.
      Empire collapses.
      Make the next stage of evolution.
      Sabotage.
      Spread out, collect the primarchs along the way and then use your crumbled kingdom as a body to develop into the next stage of evolution.

  • @MikeP5830
    @MikeP5830 Před 3 lety +251

    Honestly I feel like this was a stupid retcon on GW’s part

    • @DreadPyriteBob
      @DreadPyriteBob Před 3 lety +21

      I feel the same way, but they also seem to be “fixing” the primaris marines, so now I’m in a bit of “wait and see...?”
      But I also watched Star Wars, so I’m on the fence, still in the “let’s overlook this until more lore”

    • @christopherjohnston4100
      @christopherjohnston4100 Před 3 lety +45

      To be honest, I think it would have been a lot better if it was revealed that the reason why Erda decided to scatter the Primarchs through the warp was due to the manipulations of Chaos gods. For me at least, her decision to scatter the Primarchs because of a grudge against the Emperor is a bit silly.
      Also, where was she during the whole of the Horus Heresy?
      She claims she wants to protect her children yet she does jack shit when her sons are literally killing each other. It just seems poorly written. Another reason why she is such a divisive character amongst the 40k community is because she shows no regret for her actions. Trillions of people have died as a consequence of her betrayal against the Emperor and she does not seem to care. She also appears to be very vindictive when talking about the Emperor describing him as a "freak of freaks'' which turned a lot of people off.
      It just seems to me that the entire cause of the Horus Heresy was due to the actions of an uncaring father and a spiteful mother.

    • @loucypher3914
      @loucypher3914 Před 3 lety +32

      Definitively a stupid SJW retcon. But GW is getting W0K€ now and the whole 40k universe could not be dominated by a male, could it?

    • @christopherjohnston4100
      @christopherjohnston4100 Před 3 lety +30

      @@loucypher3914 I don't really see how this is an example of GW being woke. She only makes a brief appearance and after that, she pretty much fucks off for the rest of the book. She even says that she can't do anything to help the main character. Aside from the Erda debacle, the book is actually pretty good with a lot of epic moments.
      The fact that the Primarchs have a mother is not the reason why so many fans are upset but rather it is the way she was introduced into the story. There was almost no build-up to such a massive development in the lore. She pretty much showed up, talked to the main character and fucked off. If the writers actually took time to develop her character and build up her narrative then I doubt there would be such a massive outcry.
      Also at the back of the book, the author even says that their intention was never to shoehorn in such a random character for shock value or, in the case of Star Wars, "to subvert our expectations" but rather they wanted to show that the Emperor was not solely responsible for the Imperium's success. Instead, it was a team effort that involved the likes Malcador the Sigilite, Valdor, Amarr Astarte and Erda.
      There is this widespread image amongst many 40k fans that prior to the end of the Unification Wars the Emperor was just this random dude jacking off into test tubes in his basement under the Himalayan mountains in order to create space marines that would help fulfil his dreams of galactic conquest. I think the writers wanted to go against this narrative and show that it was more of a team effort and involved a large number of people.

    • @loucypher3914
      @loucypher3914 Před 3 lety +36

      @@christopherjohnston4100 As one of those guys, I did know that the Emperor did not do all of it alone. Malcador, Valdor, 9.999 other Custodes, Thunder Warriors, millions of scientists, workers, soldiers, and so on. Absolutely no need for Miss 'Astartes' and Mommy-Primarch. We already knew about a huge team effort.
      Another thing: What about the Word Bearers creating the storm that took away the Primarchs according to the Horus Heresy book series. That was first person perspective. No mention of the female suddenly opening warp-gates.
      It is just a stupid woke retcon.
      How could male super-soldiers imbued with chaotic warp energies, fused with deamons, create a warp rift? That's nonsense, it was of course a whaman, and the bestes evar of course. A perpetual who happens to be the 'mother' of the Primarchs themselves.
      Stupid retcon.

  • @grimcapricorn2150
    @grimcapricorn2150 Před 3 lety +22

    I always thought that as a powerful perpetual second only to the emperor she had the ability into the future. Maybe the Chaos gods gave her visions of the future out of context and this made her panic as she saw a future where her sons are killing each other. She thought it was cause of the Big E since she probably knew what happened to the thunder warriors and might even know that the Big E planned a civil war that would kill off half of the Primarchs. And that's my personal theory on why she did what she did based on Majorkill's videos that I have watched.

  • @Tobi_Q-airsoft
    @Tobi_Q-airsoft Před 3 lety +21

    *Me when this popped up in my notifications*
    "Oh look, an 8 minute video about a tube!"

    • @catnium
      @catnium Před 3 lety

      a tube video?
      on you tube?
      tubeception

  • @Southerly93
    @Southerly93 Před 3 lety +60

    I dislike this addition because every time you ask, “where was this person in the larger narrative” the answer is always “because the emperor is an asshole and he alienated them.
    Like seriously, we see plenty of the asshole emperor, but if he was always a douche, he wouldn’t have drawn such love and adoration from most of the people around him. More of the emperor being rad please.

    • @Aurora-313
      @Aurora-313 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, what if - and spit balling here - Erda alienated THEM? As to why she'd arranged the scattering of the Primarchs? Not because she was 'concerned for their wellbeing' - but because she doubled the hell down on the ambition of conquering the galaxy? To the point where even Big E and Malcidor were raising eyebrows and telling her to chill out.
      Perhaps Erda plotted to warp them away to her own pre-determined destination to create her 20 personal demigods to conquer the galaxy for her own ego. But she seriously miscalculated with the warp portal due to her own arrogance, believing she could match or trump the Chaos Gods in their own realm.
      Big E and Mal are SUPER outraged at her and banish her. The only reason she's allowed to live is because her unique genetic material may be needed again in case the first batch of Primarchs are destroyed/irrecoverable.
      Erda then exiles herself. Completely unrepentant having performed a huge some of mental gymnastics to conclude the entire affair is the Emperor's fault for not making the Primachs fast enough, in spite of her assistance and insistence. Even going so far as to conceitedly claim the Emperor wasn't powerful enough to kill her. (He very much could and would if she wasn't of further value.)
      Honestly, I'd prefer an arrogant witch of a woman that made Big E seem utterly civil over one suddenly overcome by 'motherly concern'... and the Big E literally did not have the time to undo or mend all the varying neuroses that afflicted the now grown Primarchs, between the web way project and trying to combat chaos.

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723

    Soooo, Sanguineous, Vulkan, Dorn & Guiliman getting adopted was for the best!

  • @Steelstriker
    @Steelstriker Před 3 lety +19

    I think it would be interesting to have a story where Irda and one of the primarchs (preferably Vulkan) Meet and there is a at least some form of closer and understanding.

    • @steffanyschwartz7801
      @steffanyschwartz7801 Před 2 lety +3

      To add Grimdark to it, after the conversation is done Vulkan is so happy he hugs his mother so hard her body breaks and she dies

    • @safwanshuhaib9968
      @safwanshuhaib9968 Před rokem +3

      @@steffanyschwartz7801 remember she's a perpetual....she's immortal.

    • @steffanyschwartz7801
      @steffanyschwartz7801 Před rokem +2

      @@safwanshuhaib9968 well Vulkan doesn’t know. Then after like 5 years she respawns and tries to make amends with all her sons

    • @ssjjshawn
      @ssjjshawn Před rokem +1

      ​​@@safwanshuhaib9968 Erda was killed by Eribus after she refused to turn to Chaos. And he used an Atheme blade, so she is perma dead

  • @elisupsi9257
    @elisupsi9257 Před 3 lety +26

    It's an old saying that the emperor unfortunately forgot about: bros not hoes

  • @FriezaSucks
    @FriezaSucks Před 3 lety +240

    Wow, Timmy surprised me with his knowledge of Christianity, albeit the most basic, but still.

    • @sethleoric2598
      @sethleoric2598 Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah holy crap, i thought Timmy was a devout Emperorist or some xrud

    • @eobardthawne3333
      @eobardthawne3333 Před 3 lety +7

      Actually Majorkill's second hypothesis is more true to the story

    • @KameSennin4209
      @KameSennin4209 Před 3 lety +9

      Also, majorkill's response displays the blasphemous nature of Catholicism in relation to Christianity and one of the reasons it is considered a part of the synagogue of satan by non-catholics. Educational value all-around.

    • @walker-macfitness2130
      @walker-macfitness2130 Před 3 lety +4

      @@KameSennin4209 Remember Constintine murdered THOUSANDS upon thousands of christians constantly after his "conversion" because "herr derr you dont mix my panganism with your christianity... well awkward DIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE"

    • @KameSennin4209
      @KameSennin4209 Před 3 lety

      @@walker-macfitness2130 as Jesse Lee Peterson would say, he loved his fatha da devil.

  • @SlimRhyno
    @SlimRhyno Před rokem +5

    In my irrelevant opinion, Erda is an incredibly fascinating character and a sublime addition to the lore. It is a pity that they kinda killed her off post haste, but... she is a perpetual. So, you know, Games Workshop doing what Games Workshop does.

  • @nickster5207
    @nickster5207 Před 3 lety +151

    Still think the addition of a mother to the primarch is a dumb retcon.

    • @namekman01
      @namekman01 Před 3 lety +9

      dumb is too soft a word

    • @michaelkean5969
      @michaelkean5969 Před 3 lety +12

      sorta agree/disagree well considering that it is scientifically impossible to create any form of sentient humanoid life without some form of female involvement. i think they should have added lore that makes the emperor even more morally grey he should have had random human females either forcefully or they willingly either way doesn't matter volunteer to be the Mothers of his children and he either out and out fucks them or he experiments on them with artificial insemination and all females die in child birth. i reckon they should have done that but this Erda being there just screams Woke feminist pandering so clear that we are going to get Empress of Womankind Female Primarchs and Astartes any day now.

    • @nickster5207
      @nickster5207 Před 3 lety +27

      @@michaelkean5969 My biggest problem isn't necessarily the fact she was added but more of HOW she was added, I just feel like she was just shoved in there and her implementation undermined plenty of old lore.

    • @Brother-Martell
      @Brother-Martell Před 3 lety +7

      Michael Kean
      Chill lmao this isn't some feminist conspiracy

    • @Sereze001
      @Sereze001 Před 3 lety +2

      Honestly, the idea of the primarchs having a mother is a lot better done in the "Messages For Dad" fanfic.
      One of these is a fanfic written by a pair of students in their free time, whilst the other is a GW sanctioned book.

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 Před 3 lety +4

    "Vulkan is a good guy..." Cue picture of Vulkan roasting Perturabo with a flamer. Lol!!!

  • @matheusrondelleite8015
    @matheusrondelleite8015 Před 3 lety +148

    The first part of this video is pure heresy, according to the Catholic Church.

  • @kam833
    @kam833 Před 3 lety +63

    I prefer the version of the story whithout the mother

  • @kalashnikovdevil
    @kalashnikovdevil Před 3 lety +8

    They're working on entirely artificially created eggs in our time line now. Further gene editing that would render the donor of the egg's DNA neutral's a thing that people are looking into too. I think the primarch's mother comes down to old lore because well. Science has kinda been on a tear since the 80s.

  • @ukiluser
    @ukiluser Před 3 lety +14

    "Mum Everest"

  • @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni

    The idea behind Erda was fine. The execution however turned the entire horror of 40k and imperium into "Karen took the kids."

  • @josephsatricleofevillanuev3194

    "The Emperor had this sense of urgency and didn't want to wait many many years to have kids....and so he hooked up with another Perpetual woman to beget the Primarchs using his geneseed and her skills". Imagine the Emperor having "the talk" with his Primarch sons about "How I Met Your Mother".

    • @khylerbane4523
      @khylerbane4523 Před 2 lety +5

      “La la la I can’t hear this. I don’t want to be on this planet anymore!”
      Magnus when big E talk about his one night stands.

  • @ilyana1126
    @ilyana1126 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent lore video. I am forwarding this to my gaming group, I really appreciate the hard work and research you put into these.

  • @ryokajimosensei2780
    @ryokajimosensei2780 Před 3 lety +4

    Major Kill inspired me to get out of my slump and become a better person. Right now I'm learning to animate as well, maybe I'll start doing wh40k animations. Thank you, Majorkill.

  • @IronCow8
    @IronCow8 Před 3 lety +15

    Wait were creating super soldier for WAR!? Ew disavow

  • @olympusgolemoflight7198
    @olympusgolemoflight7198 Před 3 lety +23

    Hooray for Test Tube Chan!!!
    Edit: I wonder if the Choas gods showed the traitor Primarchs the other Perpetuals to turn him.

  • @jaymz18
    @jaymz18 Před 3 lety

    those improvements sound fantastic, great idea and best of luck! being together might make a bit of improv as well which is always funny

  • @sethierot7067
    @sethierot7067 Před 3 lety

    Man, i think your show has Potential :D i enjoyed the pilot and will patiently await the next episode :) your plans sound pretty good

  • @TLTeo
    @TLTeo Před 3 lety +8

    Aaaaaaah so this annoying screechy background sound I have been hearing is Gamza learning about this. Makes sense.

    • @linkofvev
      @linkofvev Před 3 lety +4

      Wait until he hears about the new faction of all female humans, who wield boltguns and wear power armour, but aren't superhumans like the Astartes. Oh wait that was 23 years ago.

    • @giorgiofenu5563
      @giorgiofenu5563 Před 3 lety +2

      @@linkofvev if the Sororitas came out now there would be an uprising calling the whole faction SJW pandering.

    • @danegerausbayern
      @danegerausbayern Před 3 lety +1

      @@giorgiofenu5563 common, that's just divisive rhetoric.
      Even the hardcore, long-time fans you are ridiculing here have respected Sororitas. The main criticism was, that the models were less revealing or sexy than in the past, afaik. Correct me if I am wrong, but it never was about not wanting female models.
      We shouldn't forget, original 40k is from a time when every female character was overly attractive and voloptous and every male character overly buff. It's Dark Fantasy.
      Both sides(oldschool and modern fans) should have respect for each other. I don't understand why we need to bash each other.

    • @boarfaceswinejaw4516
      @boarfaceswinejaw4516 Před 3 lety

      @@giorgiofenu5563
      for a while, sure, but ultimately most people would realize that the Sororitas fill a niché in the setting, as the weaponized arm of the ecchlesiarchy.

  • @RyanTheMan000
    @RyanTheMan000 Před 3 lety +41

    In my (personal-) opinion, i rather like the idea of the emperor having been with many other human woman than the one immortal woman instead.
    I say this cause the idea of the Primarchs have a normal human side to them sounds better, that and a sort of racial diversity angle could have been thrown in i guess and it would still make the emperor seem like an asshole for just going around and taking eggs from woman he didn't really care about. Hell i would even except one of them being a perpetual so it could explain vulkan. But all the primarchs having the same mam just doesn't rub me the right way i suppose.
    As about the naming of the Astartes after the woman who helped create them i think its retarded for people to get mad over that. Like cop on fellas.
    Also not related but fuck Cawl.

    • @papastalin6816
      @papastalin6816 Před 3 lety +1

      Why fo you wanna fuck cawl?

    • @barahng
      @barahng Před 2 lety +1

      Oh I thought you were gonna say because it would be way cooler if the Emperor had a harem

    • @aguy4823
      @aguy4823 Před rokem

      @@barahng He is an emperor that should be given

  • @lordzetsumei
    @lordzetsumei Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this one and all the other great content. I'm slowly working my way through all of it while I study. You're helping my sanity lol.

  • @theemperorsfinest4218
    @theemperorsfinest4218 Před 3 lety +3

    "Yes Inquisitor I found it, the end of this one is the heresy you've been looking for!"

  • @FBKino
    @FBKino Před 3 lety +77

    I clicked off my hentai for this
    Worth it

    • @Watcher-in-the-Dark
      @Watcher-in-the-Dark Před 3 lety +5

      It's Majorkill, you basically just clicked on a different kind of Hentai to replace the first.

  • @thomascoolidge2161
    @thomascoolidge2161 Před 3 lety +4

    Can you provide any of the canon sources for Erda and Astarte? The Lorgar/Word bearer heresy books basically countered the lore you said for how the primarchs were scattered.

  • @dericksnyder4757
    @dericksnyder4757 Před 3 lety

    THANK YOU! hahaha shoehorning Vulken in at the last second was a damn classy move. Also good vid. Keep doing you.

  • @antithely1081
    @antithely1081 Před 11 měsíci +1

    "expect for vulcan hes a good guy"
    *proceeds to show a picture of him bunring something a life*

  • @yavehsuarez9392
    @yavehsuarez9392 Před 3 lety +3

    HEY golden hawk boy is a good guy he just gets angry sometimes .

  • @Batman_the_bad_man
    @Batman_the_bad_man Před 3 lety +5

    "The primarch weren't made to fix climate change"
    *angry Fulgrim noises*

  • @Chrisdlg30
    @Chrisdlg30 Před 3 lety

    My boy Major... so glad to be apart of you coming up from 10k to now 100k and listening to us with your homebrew animation. Keep it up and oh yea.. fuck OMS!

  • @arriasinsanite4886
    @arriasinsanite4886 Před 3 lety

    glad to see you've taken the feedbacks in consideration for homebrew adventure.

  • @THExRISER
    @THExRISER Před 3 lety +7

    2:34 Pretty sure this here is an official artwork of her when she met John Grammaticus: wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/c/c0/ErdaArt.jpg

  • @NWLR-tv
    @NWLR-tv Před 3 lety +8

    Holy sh*t that was a smooth AF transition from the intro to the video, the fade away dissolving effect. Damn that's nice

  • @janvankessel624
    @janvankessel624 Před 3 lety +1

    Loved the interactions between John and Erda. S tier writing.

  • @bigchef290
    @bigchef290 Před 3 lety

    Dude love the cartoon, you don't have to make it perfect. (that's part of the charm.) I loved every bit of it, please keep them coming.

  • @vit968
    @vit968 Před 3 lety +8

    *I think they invented Erda to be the Eve to the Emperor's Adam. The concept of a mother of Primarchs is interesting, but the execution was poor.*

  • @aceofhearts573
    @aceofhearts573 Před 2 lety +3

    It would have been so good if the Emperor and Erda had a natural born son and then decided to create the primarchs as a faster way to make sons, also a way to modify them.

  • @mukkah
    @mukkah Před rokem

    Appreciated this vid! n Ye, heard you mention Primarch mother several times in your videos and started to get curious about her lore. Thanks m8!

  • @iloveblood51789
    @iloveblood51789 Před 3 lety

    Thx mate n the fan vid was epic

  • @Crysomandiaz
    @Crysomandiaz Před 3 lety +7

    I like Erda. It never made sense to me how Chaos could gain access to the laboratory and then chose to just slingshot the infant primarchs across the galaxy instead of ending them.

  • @Charlie-de7xu
    @Charlie-de7xu Před 3 lety +3

    Love the video, I agree that the addition of the primarch's mother was a good idea as it shows the emperors consistently shitty people skills, and it also just makes more sense than the emperors sperm being so potent that it fertilises itself in some massive orgy

  • @DominicMaez
    @DominicMaez Před 3 lety

    Duuuuude loved the animation and great job.

  • @muchlove59
    @muchlove59 Před 3 lety +2

    I refuse the retcon, I know what I like and I like what I know!

  • @hkwiv8044
    @hkwiv8044 Před 3 lety +19

    *Haha first get recked scrubs*
    But nice video, little bit of more obscure lore. Mind covering the Akashic record next? Maybe some of the more weird theories around the omniscia.

  • @jakefrost7404
    @jakefrost7404 Před 3 lety +53

    *_This is GW's biggest narrative misstep since they greenlit the Primaris._*
    _While fleshing out the lore can be fun, if done wrong, it can deflate the sense of mythology and mystery that 40k has. Seriously, a test tube filled with _*_E-jizz_*_ and _*_warp goop_*_ would be preferable to an immortal soccer mom._

  • @arson338
    @arson338 Před 3 lety

    The show is great seriously cant wait for the next episode

  • @pandacultkinggaming8610

    Youre doing well Major. I respect the first attempt and believe in your cheek clapping potential 🤘

  • @PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven

    Wait what about the Star child

    • @marrvynswillames4975
      @marrvynswillames4975 Před 3 lety +2

      it's 1/2th edition lore, much was changed, but, there's an chance.
      Ynnead was an obscure figure in the first editions and became an major power in 8th edition

  • @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370

    Remember: it's okay when a woman does it.

  • @xherdanrayng1903
    @xherdanrayng1903 Před 3 lety

    how come this is the first time I ever heard of Eredar, not even from other yotubers mentioned it. Thx majorkill

  • @grex951
    @grex951 Před 3 lety +1

    Vulkan is living with her and giving his mama hugs

  • @worldofwarcraftman2
    @worldofwarcraftman2 Před 3 lety +6

    she's probably looking at the world right now thinking maybe the emperor had the right idea.

  • @Razkunn
    @Razkunn Před 3 lety +3

    Wow, that's an actually interesting lore point, grat vid as always. :)
    Actually, a Primarch mummy really fits into the whole story very well.

  • @Cryogolem
    @Cryogolem Před 3 lety

    Can’t wait for the next episode :).

  • @Mrpanzonebontempone
    @Mrpanzonebontempone Před 2 lety

    Best intro ever. An hard thruth.

  • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
    @Kristian.B.Kristiansen Před 3 lety +7

    A very solid and refreshingly "unbiased" description of a super interesting and controversial character.

    • @Awesomeisme7000
      @Awesomeisme7000 Před 3 lety +5

      Erda is super interesting, super interesting to think on why she considered the course of action she took remotely intelligent or moral.

  • @Sereze001
    @Sereze001 Před 3 lety +16

    I prefer to conventionally overlook her existance.

  • @deni140492deni
    @deni140492deni Před 2 lety +1

    "Me mom was a tube! A tube on mount everest!" - kitten

  • @damianwinterburn2076
    @damianwinterburn2076 Před 3 lety

    Animation is something I'm not to worried about just the weighting besides that its awesome keep it up

  • @breachingpig6753
    @breachingpig6753 Před 3 lety +11

    Do you recon you could get some research for alpha legion as I’m a lazy chungus and I like to see your opinion

  • @tabe8850
    @tabe8850 Před 3 lety +36

    I got into a conversation with a random person on CZcams about whether Erda’s introduction was a retcon. I didn’t think it was, since it seems to make sense that the emperor would need female DNA to create life, and that it doesn’t really change anything. I was then identified as an overweight SJW who lives in my parent’s basement. So there you go...

    • @Imeggscelent
      @Imeggscelent Před 3 lety

      damn bro, that's rough

    • @Ake-TL
      @Ake-TL Před 3 lety +19

      I doubt that he needed female DNA all that much but have no problem with her existence, just don’t like Big-Es intelligence being downplayed.

    • @jiado6893
      @jiado6893 Před 3 lety +7

      The Primarchs having a Gene mother is cool, and I can get with her scattering the Primarchs. But I really hate all the Perpetuals showing up. A whole cast of characters who can survive being dropped into a star removes the tension from whatever they're involved in. An individual who goes on living forever, no matter what, and never has to contemplate their fate on the other side of the mortal coil, is totally unrelatable. That would make them more alien than the Eldar or Old Ones, because THOSE aliens, while they don't age, have mostly been murdered. Mortality is what separates the organic individuals of Warhammer from the asshole daemons and 'gods.' The warp deamons are all just bratty, spoiled manchildren, who have no sense of responsibility because their infinite respawns let them act without much consequence. Plus their extreme age stops them from viewing mortals with anything but contempt.
      40K has always been defined by people trying to overcome death, or the fear of it. The Eldar achieved Utopia, but screwed it all up and unnecessarily drove themselves to extinction. The Necrons tried for immortality, but became trapped in metallic prisons that are driving them insane (and that's AFTER they escaped slavery). Artificial Intelligences all turn insane or evil. The Emperor became an godlike immortal, but at the cost of being a detatched egomaniac who can't empathize with their fellow humans. Him being on the Golden Throne is meant to be supremely ironic in how at that point, he becomes closest to a god, yet is trapped in misery and pain. Some of his creations like the Custodes and Primarchs are essentially immortal, but their genetics have been so altered, they can scantly be called human anymore. Some are more like organic automatons. But again, at least THOSE GUYS can still fall in battle and be stopped by death. But I get the pain of having to deal with the sexist tools.

    • @betchersgland7236
      @betchersgland7236 Před 3 lety

      @@Ake-TL that started with Primaris and Cawl.

    • @Imeggscelent
      @Imeggscelent Před 3 lety

      @Hans Becker I assumed it was for genetic purposes to make them more human or something. Maybe he needed female DNA? I dunno if there's a rhyme there's a reason though

  • @alexanderconley2448
    @alexanderconley2448 Před 3 lety +1

    We need the black Templar’s just screaming with chain swords in a future episode

  • @divinecomedyproductions967

    I honest saw the Emperor as cross between a well-intentioned Melkor, and Victor Frankenstein, he thought he had everything figured out and make mankind bend the Warp to their wills, but like Melkor, trying to do that adds more disharmony and misery. It’s like how The Dark Side of the Force works, you can command the force to bend to your will instead of harmonizing with it, but the trade off is too terrible.
    I wonder if his own unnatural birth kept him from seeing this, the whole shaman thing.