3D Printing Test: Elegoo Saturn 4 + Phrozen Aqua Hyperfine Resin
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- čas přidán 30. 04. 2024
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Discover the print quality and capabilities of the Elegoo Mars 3D printer using the high-detail Aqua Hyperfine resin from Frozen. Find out how it compares to the Saturn III series and if it's worth the investment. #3DPrintingTest #ElegooMars #AquaHyperfineResin #PrintQualityReview #FrozenResin #SaturnIIISeries #HighDetailPrinting #3DPrinters #PrintQualityComparison #InvestingIn3DPrinting - Zábava
haven't seen the ultrafine resin. is it brittle?
Just got word from my yard guy that my Saturn 4 ultra has arrived at the new place, I'll get to play with it next week. I was shopping for a larger print bed, but when I saw the tilt mechanism I had one of those mind blown moments, because I instantly did the mental math on the print speed impact. Particularly the change in role for the z axis. I get it, that it was a yawn for you, as your success criteria is very demanding and intended to find the edge of resolution. The fact is that higher and higher resolutions are going to take resin that can fully block light transmission to avoid pixel bleed, and a thinner print film with it's own version of technology to avoid the bleed. Well tuned laser systems could do it, but at a cost to print speed. So the incremental improvements won't always be about finer resolution, and print speed is a place where improvement should still be possible. Perhaps a a resin that takes two beams of different wavelengths to intersect to solidify, and without mechanical means beyond spinning mirrors we scan an object into being in a vat of clear liquid
I spent my first years designing my own fdm printers, and I sit here today looking at a well tuned print test from my very first printer, and "quality" is very close to what I would get today in a modern printer. But in those days what I was printing was parts for 3d printers, so there was a strong "what's the point" vibe. I ended up building a milling machine so that I could make some critical components out of metal instead of plastic... But with the prices on printers in a race to the bottom, I had to be more than just mechanically better... I decided that without a software foundation, my printer would just be another cheap printer, but made with more expensive labor than the guys in China can manage. Stepping away for a few years, I experienced the joy of commercial printer ownership, where I used the printer as a tool rather than an obsession. I'm on on my 4th resin printer with the Ultra, but all of those printers printed excellent quality for what they cost. FDM is a different experience, with some almost good printers out there, but very disappointing when I consider that I expected more from a more refined commercial product. Where I'm at on FDM, mechanically useful parts is the goal, so I'm looking at printers that exceed the needs of today's materials so that hopefully it can handle whatever is in the next generation.
The first 3d printer I saw was an SLS design made by Joseph Beaman, a former customer of mine here in Austin from the 1980's. Like my own efforts later, it was all prototype and no marketable product to sell, he only ever made the one printer. I think his only success was licensing the patent, that was mostly owned by the University of Texas. I was not inspired by what I saw, I was just excited to sell him Internet service, and had hopes for the future... He kind of faded into obscurity as a business man, and ended up back teaching at UT. But as an ISP in those days, all of my customers were .commies and almost all of them left behind enough unpaid bills I could be retired by now if I could collect 1%. So many stupid pointless companies. But I digress. I started the ISP because I was building a smartphone in the 1980's called the "Intelliphone", and the boss was unwilling to pay for an Internet connection, so I invented the ISP as a way to get someone else to pay the Internet bill so we could have free Internet in the office (Gary didn't pay me enough, my subterfuge was genius). To me the big accomplishment was we got the Internet on our phones, instead of the proprietary network the boss and phone companies wanted. But the rest of the world took notice of the ISP... Which at the time was just a means to an end. The point is, sometimes all you want is a tool, you don't want to have to invent something to just get a tool.
Do you have a tutorial on how to dial in resin printers?
Yes it’s called how to print miniatures, but it works with anything .
Aqua hyperfine vs Wargamer resin?
Detail, hyperfine, but never touch it again after printing and painting. For usable minis that last on the tabletop, Wargamer
@@FauxHammer Appreciated. Def need both then as I do both gaming minis and display pieces.
I'm sorry, it IS noticeably better. My time is worth $100 an hour (after taxes). How much better is it to have significantly faster/less-expensive prints? Notice THAT. ;) 5 seconds per layer faster, at the same delivered resolution... Depending on your layer height, that is HOURS off most prints. I know you are thinking I'm confused on what the word quality means, but having a positive quality, like increased speed, is a quality that I would point out that I'm using quality to describe. I know you meant the fine quality of the print itself, but I'm an engineer who's main bad quality is doing things too slow because I like to think about things too much. Summing it up very quickly, I like your reviews, but sometimes differ on judgement due to the different reality I live in.
fair point!.