Gerber Lockdown Pry & Drive Unboxing + Comparison
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So what you're saying is that it's unsafe, too heavy, none of the tools work correctly, regular bits don't fit in the driver and it stacks up unfavorably against similar competitors? But it does have a good chissel! Got it!
Gerber shoots their own foot again. Seems like another idea that started off cool and then they just cut every corner until the product became uncool. At least Gerber is consistent.
YEEEEEEP
Its almost like they are trying to fuck up at this point. At least Leatherman has company.
@@420haxx I rag on leatherman but they are about 10 levels above gerber at this point still
@@420haxx I know! I want to root for them, I don't want to crap on the market, but they just keep finding ways of turning me off as a consumer. And, like you said, it almost has to be intentional, I mean, they gotta know.
Looks like a good Design executed badly. Who needs such stuff?
Your review, has saved a lot of us from purchasing these Lockdowns and then being disappointed.
I was genuinely shocked...the issues were not what I thought they would be.
@@maxlvledc - I was rooting for the Lockdowns, but man, the deployment issues are awful.
Just returned my Gerber Lockdown Pry. The pivots were overtightened and were not adjustable.
Yea...when u take it apart you realize the lock bars are super short making them also super strong. On top of this...the thumb tabs🤦
Crazy to call it “lockdown drive” and not make the driver lock. It should lock straight and at a 90 degree position and it’d actually fit its name. Real disappointment from Gerber here. Also awful deployment design, the awl is rendered nearly useless by that “thumb stud” if that’s what it is. Having to put so much effort just to deploy the tools makes you wonder what they did from 2019 until now regarding quality control and testing. Your assessment is accurate, these seem too unsafe to recommend and one shouldn’t have to be modding tools to make them safe or usable, that should come from the manufacturer. Thanks for the video, I definitely won’t be getting either of these.
Maaaaan. I’m still waiting for mine.
Gerber always seems to have great ideas with execution that somehow just doesn’t let their “out of the box” ideas shine
Can you let me know if you have same issues plz??
@@maxlvledc sure sure. I am now questioning if I should also order the Lockdown Drive. I intended to order it once my Pry arrived to see if I could somehow forego the awl in favor of fitting scissors in it to make an ideal tool. . . But it doesn’t look like there’s room for that to work Bc of how the driver folds in.
They’re also larger than I imagined. I’ll have to see how that works
typical Gerber. wonder what their meetings are like. "wow that's a really good idea, we need to balance it out with bad execution."
🤣🤣🤣
I saw the prerelease info on these and wrote down the Pry on my wish list. I was crossing it off the list early in the video. Thanks for saving me the expense and frustration.
Definition of form over function.
and the form isn't that impressive when you look at comparable tool knives from leatherman or even a SAK
I'm sag, and this one...it much worse than. Anything I've experienced from them.
I appreciate the review! I was thinking about picking one up, but it's way too heavy and has too many issues. Honestly the only company that I feel has decent execution is Victorinox.
What’s you favorite model?
Well I'm glad I watched this video before purchasing one of these. Thanks for the work & time you put into this.
Okay, not to stick up for the tools, but a few observations from your handling:
-I’ve seen many knives that don’t deploy well with applying pressure on it. This can in face lens to some design flaws, but seeing how this works, it doesn’t appear that it is supposed to be a one-hand opening. There wasn’t a ton of testing and consideration on deploying it that way.
-yeah, looks like the tab is odd and can get in the way, then you mentioned using a nail nick. This would indicate two-hand opening then as well.
-the flip side is, you mentioned a shallow tab, but you were able to open a few other implements much easier. Looks like the depth isn’t the issue, but probably the tightness.
-we all know Gerber Chinese stuff needs some babying, some attention, and some break in. Seems odd we’re expecting (also odd that we shouldn’t expect it) smooth operation out of the box. I bet some lube and some work-in period would give us a better understanding of the true tolerances. Also, the coated tools always stick more.
Just some thoughts. Thanks for the review.
Ive had a lot of cheap tools...this is far and away the most difficult tool I have had to open. Also, you are correct I said nail nic in the context of what they could have done. None of those tabs are designed to be used as nail nics. I had to resort to using 2 hands and treating the gap between the tab and the frame as a "nail nic" to get it out. If that makes any sense.
Quality control guy at Gerber: what’s for lunch
CZcams: YOU HAD ONE JOB!
Same old problem with Gerber: innovative ideas, poor execution and quality...
Thanks for the vid. Gerber have got a long way to go in terms of improving the quality of their tools.
What are Gerber playing at?
Years ago I had the Legend and it was great. Blade was like a razor and even went through leather as if it was paper.
They seem to have gone for gimmicks rather than QC in the last 20 years.
man i was hoping for these to be good! I loved the look of em when i first saw the pictures!
Im actually enjoying mine so far. It does take 2 hands but i can remove the tools safely that way. Im more worried about the small thin pocket clip breaking off this brick of a tool lol. Great video!
what a disappointment.
I had great expectations for its design.
I wanted a multi to rotate the LM T4 & K4
Good review and comparison.
Greetings
I was really sad..I wanted the pry to be good.
That prybar though! 😍
You Americans are so lucky! All the new stuff available! I would love that pry! But probably have to wait and be lucky for a long time, before it's available overhere. 😕
Love this! Thank you. When I saw it initially, I was like, yeah, maybe more useful. But just seeing it, guess I'll wait till next gen. =)
Did you ever get around to fixing or modifying them like you mentioned, @Maxlvledc? They shouldn't have come like that out of the box, but I'd try lubricating and adjusting fastener tension and detents.
I did, I made a few videos on it actually.
Wow! What a swing and a miss by Gerber! I was really looking forward to this too. The weight is a killer for me.
A very informative review, thanks for the heads up... Just another example of why most EDC folks avoid all things Gerber like the plague..
I keep trying to give them the benefit...they have innovative ideas.
I'd argue the only decent thing from gerber is the prybrid its hard to screw up a utility knife and prybar...
Is it supposed to be one handed opening?
My gosh I'm so glad I CZcamsd this.. I was sold like crazy but I've had enough stitches in my life haha. Where can I send you money for a coffee.. you saved me big time man thank you
I've heard about 30% of these are not as bad as mine. But yea...thanks for the offer on coffee though!
@@maxlvledc I'm gonna spare my thumbs anyways haha but I'm a subscriber man thanks!
I’ve had the Gerber Pry for 4-5 months. It’s in my pocket daily. Maybe I got lucky, but it’s not this difficult to use for me. The knife/blade is definitely super sharp right out of the box. Scissors cut thru a lot of stuff.
The Scissors performed well. I think about 30% of ppl had my issue. But even then, the lack of tab exposure is just plain lazy design.
Thank god I saw this. I was considering these as groomsmen gifts. Not anymore. WTF was Gerber thinking? Looks like my guys will get Victorinox SAKs or full blown plier based multitools!
Wow- I’ve never seen these before. Thanks for handling and unboxing them… i feel like they may have dropped the ball I have tons of Gerbers and never had issues like that. I’d return them if I had bought them.
Always a satisfying watch. Pure comedy. What happened, Gerber? Wtf are these? :D
Thanks for good review
Isn't it supposed to be heavy and sturdy because of the cast prybar?
That part I don't mind too much, but the weight is comparable to tools with a plier which seems problematic
Sometimes those screws that keep all the components together are a little tight. Any chance that backing the screw off just a bit to free up some tension might make those tools easier to deploy with one hand? I have done that with some of my multi tools with success without losing the screws. Worth a shot! 👍
Sadly no, check my second video of disassembly
Thanks i was thinking about one of these two but now now no more
The good idea fairy always gets gerber. Do they not let knife EDC these before making
Nope ! And since they were shown in 2019...no excuse
Great review! Well worth the $50 you saved me from buying this tool. Will stick with my Leatherman Skeletool.
Could it be that the difficulty of opening could be due to being brand new and needs time to break in? Like i heard alot of people used to complain about their leatherman wave+ not being able to swing open like a butterfly knife one handed but after mine broke in it is easy for me. Idk aesthetically speaking they look great tbh.
Sadly no, this has 2-3 major design flaws
4min end of review, thanks thumbs up
There seems to be inconsistency. I got one last week and I can open all the tools one handed bar the file/scraper which is a bugger to both deploy and return. Otherwise a handy pocket tool👍
What do you think of the Gerber Armbar? Is it much better than the Lockdown?
Yes it's better...but get the T4 instead
Glad I watched the review before I bought one. I was interested, but at the cost of it, shipping it to hong kong, and finding out that it is basically useless to me. All I really want / need is the pry bar, the nail puller, the bottle opener and I have pretty much every thing I would be using constantly. Too bad they don't make one that is even close to affordable.
There are some great prys that do that as a stand alone
Idk if this was advertised as “one-handed tool” but it would be nice to be able to have that available. Maybe with time it will work itself out🤷🏽♂️ probably still gonna get the pry just because i need a prytool and it looks pretty kewl lol
I can recommend about 50prys more useful than this one and far far far far lighter. Message me on either IG or Facebook and I can find you the perfect one for your needs and at any budget.
thanks for sharing this one with us 🤔
Great review! The products are fails. Leatherman is still the king!
I agree 💯 . I really wanted to buy them 😕 but really they didn't again 😕, no locking drive, big tabs, is a no go for me. Gerber has better looking edc tools than Leatherman, if Gerber puts more interest in their designs they can become number one, but they promote a good looking edc tool with many cool and useful tools but with so many flaws. Please Gerber stop repeating the same issues 😒
thank you for the review was tempted to buy it but if its that awkward out the box i wont buy it
Two thingsi do like onit. The bottle opener is non invasive, and the chisel end could be very useful
Both things I like! but would I carry a 6 OZ tool just for that? probably not.
for those not allowed one hand opening blades the pry looks nice. with mods it will be better so easier to access. the drive needs a lot of modding. THE SOONER GERBER STOPS MAKING STUFF IN CHINA THE BETTER
For a pry tool...you can do soo much better
Great review maybe a little honing oil in joints to free up tools wouldn’t hurt. I sometimes think we are too gadget crazy it’s like buying a toy we want to upgrade all the time same really with phones and tech honestly me personally I’ll love tools that are robust functional and reasonably priced, I still find it hard to beat my Supertool 300, and smaller Rebar I have loved these tools since day dot and honoustly I am really rough with these tools & still going strong 💪 belt clip would be my ultimate on them hint hint.
You mention that you are going to modify the pry to make it easier to use. Can you please expand on how you are going to go about.
I made 2 additional vids on it actually
I had the same issues with mine. I'm also not crazy about the tabs and no need for the so many sharp tools. Over done.
Another Gerber.... why the hell do I even bother looking at these videos??? Gerber makes garbage multi-tools and always has. It's a damn shame... Thank You Maxiviedc for an honest review, VERY much appreciated!
Wow... Both of these are worthy of a "Picard Facepalm". Let's hope nobody gets cut trying to open the knife or utility blade...
I was excited to buy one until this video.. was gonna buy both
Gerber shouldn't try to compete with what people already carry, that is, a knife and a Victorinox and-or Leatherman. Instead, they should try something to "complete" the better brands. The best take would be a pry bar & utility blade as in Prybrid, but with a bit holder and maybe a chisel and a serrated blade - everything lockable with a nice pocket clip and lanyard hole. I believe that such a "completing" multitool would be a success in workplaces everywhere - ad long as it's well made.
It seems to me that Gerber lost several opportunities with these two new models.
Agreed 100%
Dangit I was litterally rooting for this tool. I am not buying it now. DANGIT... I hope they bring an updated version.
Today I got my lockdown pry. And I am really wondering all the negative reviews about it. I can open it all one handed. Not stiff, and easy to open with the studs. Maybe it works better for smaller. woman's hands. Because I found no issues with it. 🤷🏼♀️
I think you got a good one.
Thanks, you just saved me $100.
Dam i had it in my cart delete thanks
Hopefully some mods can help
what I have to do to make this thing work lol. That would make a cool video though.
Turns out it’s best feature/function wasn’t even advertised by Gerber, it’s best at being a paperweight! Or a fist weight if an impromptu bar fight breaks out lol.
Sin Duda GERBER es muy innovador, tienen modelos e ideas muy prometedoras, pero le falta calidad en la fabricación de sus multiherramientas.
Gracias por tus videos
Cool
If i’m gonna give up my Leatherman ….. Gerber’s gonna have to start making these in the USA . Not knocking all other products but if it’s hard to get American made now , imagine in 10 years . RC
Thanks forr the review or WARNING. Now I know not to waste my money on this.
I'll buy. A strong magnet is better than a weak one every day of the week. The detents are too strong? Better than weak detents/pivots. I've poured over the gerber website and can't find that this is marketed as a one-handed tool. Oh, a double-sided hex bit is longer than a standard bit? "Heh heh oh my...". Thanks for the video...
Hope it works for you. 👍
An interesting concept for a multitool. Thanks for the video review (Editing a video with "broken glass" is unpleasant when watching the video) Интересная концепция для мультитула. Спасибо за видеообзор. (Редактирование видео с "разбитым стеклом" неприятно при просмотре видео)
That's a huge disappointment, I was super excited to see these tools come out. Maybe this was a one off fluke like you said. Hopefully Gerber sees this and fixes these issues.
I would say that...but two??? One from each style?
@@maxlvledc Were the pivot screws tight? Maybe the screws being tight would cause the hang up?
@@MotorcyclePrepper they move fine when out of detent. The issue is that none of the tab is exposed and the frame has no cutout to access them in the first place
@@maxlvledc Gotcha 👍 Hopefully Gerber sees you video and gets this issue fixed.
@@MotorcyclePrepper RIIIIIGGGGHT, like how they fixed the Brittle cutters on the centerdrive.. not going to happen. A man can hope though.
Thank you for your review, I remove it from my Amazon cart.
Weight, price and overall execution is pretty bad. Glad I watched this before buying. I appreciate this review!
Your frustration with various aspects of this tool is pretty hilarious 😂
It was bad even by gerber standards
Merci pour cette revue édifiante. Elle va me permettre de ne pas jeter mon argent par la fenêtre en achetant ces deux outils lamentables. Fiskars serait bien inspiré de se débarrasser au plus vite de Gerber !
Thank you for this uplifting review. It will allow me not to throw my money out the window by buying these two dismal tools. Fiskars would be well advised to get rid of Gerber as soon as possible!
I was in shock...I really was genuinely surprised these were so bad
@@maxlvledc Depuis les séries Armbar, Armbar Slim et Lockdown, Gerber a atteint le fond du trou de la médiocrité et je ne vois pas comment il pourrait s'en sortir sans le renouvellement complet de son équipe de direction.
Since the Armbar, Armbar Slim and Lockdown series, Gerber has hit the bottom of the hole of mediocrity and I don't see how he could get away without the complete renewal of his management team.
@@diezelle57 can't argue with any of that....I was excited about the Dual force...now I'm not so sure..
I am not surprised at all. I assumed failure from the get go. Again… “Gerber!!! What are you thinking!!!” Please Gerber… stick to scissors and baby bottles. 😖😖😖
was looking forward to trying these outbut think ill just give it a huge pass.
If it's too tight all you do is loosen the screws a little bit. Everything about it is adjustable.
I answered it in the take down video..but that didn't fix it. And besides it doesnt solve the fact that there is no where to engage with the thumb tabs because they are flush.
@@maxlvledc it's too bad that you seem to have all these problems with yours. Mine opens and closes as nicely as you please. I love it, carry and use it daily.
@@ronman33 awesome, so far that's 3 that were good ish, and 8 that were bad like mine...not a good ratio so far.
Seems pretty typical for Gerber. Their design process seems to be to start with a good idea, then make a product, but don't actually test the product before shipping it.
The only gerber product that I own is their EAB utility knife. I own about 5 of them.
those EABs are sick. very useful imo.
Sucks cause I was gonna buy one
Hopefully the new heavy duty tool is better thought out
If they fuck up the Dual force I will never buy another gerber ever.
@@maxlvledc
Agreed
Love the center drive and dual force looks slick
Also make something kinda customizable and they'd gain back trust
i like gerber truss.
Thanks for the review. I DON'T need it. 👍👍👍😎
After buying the hilariously terrible armbar drive, I won't be buying another Gerber tool.
This new tool confirms my feelings!
I didnt think it could get worse! I was wrong..but maybe mine was a dud???
Just grabbed the prybrid utility at Walmart for like 20 then got home and realized their is no pocket clip smh. Lol oh well ill leave it in the toolbox at work or somthing
Leatherman needs to add the bit driver to the t4. Make the eyeglass driver as a scale tool. Alternatively, victorinox needs an update for one handed opening. How does gerber not go bankrupt with products like this? The only thing I would still buy is the dime and only because the ps4 costs 2+× more.
I recently learned that because the bit driver is made in Mexico it would have prevented them from marking all of the free series USA. The Free series are all stamped USA. Something most of their other tools don't have
@@maxlvledc That's interesting, thanks for sharing! Perhaps a discount wingman based pocket knife in the $30 range would be a better request?
@@edisontrent5244 well...the T2 can easily be found for 19-29 on ebay new atm
@@maxlvledc I haven't looked for the T2 very often since I would prefer to have scissors, but is certainly a good suggestion I will follow!
I had none of these issues with mine. Bad roll of the dice my friend.
So your the 2nd person with no issues, 15 with same issues so far. Keeping a running tab. But even if the detent is correct, not having a thumb tab relief is bad design.
Ironically the lockdown was locked down very well in the box 😅😅😅😅😊
idk what is it with gerber and making super bulky tools that are just hard to use. it's like they don't test the stuff they make. i had a gerber centerdrive and the knife was so hard to open, even with both hands. then if you wanted the other tools, you had to deploy the pliers, fold out all the tools, pick the one you want, fold back the tools, then slide the pliers back in. wtf! who the hell designs this stuff! gladly went back to my leatherman OHT and it's been great ever since. maybe gerber knifes are decent but their multi-tools are useless.
It is actually easy to open when you actually “use your shit” it breaks in rather easy. You can’t just open Amazon boxes with it, you have to actually use it for it to break in. It is relatively cheap, so don’t expect perfection when buying this tool, you are buying a worker not a custom tool.
????? $50 is cheap??? You do realize that 20ish victorinox pocket knives are less than this, work flawlessly, open easily, and use better materials...
Yeah, been waiting for what seems an age for these and hoped they wouldn't fuck up.... Ah well.
Gerber quality control is sheit, as well as the design ... literally nobody is testing these out after designing them.
More fail from Gerber. I do love the MP600 and CenterDrive. I wonder what the future holds for Gerber
Both of those are MADE IN USA.
At this rate the streets... This guys still use the worst cheapest posible steel on well designed and atractive pocket knives they are getting too cheap for they own good
@@glasius22 yep
sigh 😔 I had such high hopes
Another swing and a miss from a major multitool company. Any way to remove the thumb studs to have just an opening slot?
Hopefully the Gerber dual force isn't a swing and a miss. Really looking forward to it.
Hopefully they can CQI these. Make American made titanium versions with better blade steel and fixing the problems you mention. Even if it doubled the price of each I would prefer them built well and functional.
Would like to see you do a review of the Utica kutmaster multimaster someday. It's a unique USA made multitool.
If it is..I will never buy another gerber..
oh??? link?
Never had a Gerber tool yet. This gave me another reason not to buy one.
I'm sure it'll be better after break in and I'm sure a man wouldn't have such a hard time
Lols
I remember when gerber was decent. Seems like forever ago lol
I use a lockdown drive absolutely love it. I did not experience any of the issues he seemed to have with the knife in this video and do not feel it is dangerous or unsafe. I like the tools having a snug fit, not sure if it was a hand strength issue for him but again no issues I like the knife very much and can easily pull the screwdriver bit out.
So far, based on ppl reaching out about 40-50% of the lockdown tools are this bad. Some seem to be fine.
It really makes no sense to add stuff to the blade without facilitating one hand opening, and that shortened single cut file is hot garbage although at least you get the chisel i guess. At this point i wonder if Gerber understand how much people want their drivers to be locking. And yeah i totally feel like that craft blade is dangerous. Still, if its not overpriced i'll probably grab one.
$50..so as expensive as the T4..not worth.
I really leugh hard 😂😂
SKKEEEEEEEEEEETTCCHHHYYYYY
NO THANKS! HOW DID THAT PASS QA??
Yes I meant to yell all of that!! 🤣
kind of how I feel lol, only reason I wasn't angry is that I had already given up on Gerber lol. Leatherman I still care about, so them fucking up makes me pissed.
Yeah unfortunately Gerber is garbage. Leathermans “new” series is questionable at best.
The only good one so far was the Bond and that’s because it was $76 with tax!
Not impressed with the other’s so far. Unless they do a stripped charge tti version that EVERYONE can afford they’re just meh so far.
Sorry I know this was a gerber video 😆
@@theguywiththeface3338 it's relevant!
The issue with getting implements out on these is reminiscent of Victorinox. Same poor implementation and design. I will say that Victorinox is not quite this bad.
Gerber = Crap... interesting ideas terrible execution and quality control as usual! To be expected! Don't modify it...return it...get your money back and buy another product from a competitor...
Dude complained about the weight of the pry bar. Also he never tried to use the pry. Is you used it as a pry bar tool then you would want the extra weight my guy.
i made the mistake of getting lock down pry and your not kidding about it not being one handed its a hunk of shit