1997 Porsche 993 Turbo: More refined than you think | One-Mile Review
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The 993-generation was the last air-cooled 911, and this Turbo was the last air-cooled 911 Turbo. We've reviewed other 993s and came away impressed with how refined they are compared to earlier air-cooled 911s, and we found the 993 Turbo stays true to this pattern. Watch and learn what Vu thinks about this 16,00-mile Turbo!
We couldn't have done this review without the help of RBS Garage (www.rbsgarage.com/), a collection made available to us by owners Robert and Joel Bassam, from @EasternMotors.
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Owned both pre and post 911's to the 993 turbo (plus other porsche's). The 993turbo was and is the best 911 that I've ever owned (for 10yrs). Stupid me to sell it.
My father in law traded his 85 turbo for this one! I I remember going with him to brumo Porsche in Jacksonville Fl to pick it up. It was sitting in middle of the showroom. It was bitter sweet because he really loved the 85 930 which it only had 30k on the odometer! However driving the new 993 turbo home we quickly forgot about the 930! Lol! I think he paid 138k for the 993.
Have owned a 993 twin turbo since 2001. Prior to that owned a 70 911S for 20 yrs.
Clearly, this model was the peak iteration of the air cooled Porsche.
Fastest, most comfortable, livable, reliable version of the 911 bodied car that Zuffenhausen produced.
Mine has 47k and drives like new. The engine sounds like a plane engine.
An Engineering masterpiece.
Thanks for sharing!
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Wow this is a real dream car, thanks for this review. Before I never liked the 933 Turbo, but this changed my mind.
993 turbo review that's covered everything we know about them to those of you that currently own one- me a (997.26sp'turbo 4wd) & black. & will recognize exactly what he's talking about. the mileage or this car is crazy low & would rate at a handful maybe two in the world. i have a 1996-97mag with a burgundy red 993t on the cover & remember back then thinking how huge the hp was for the time, but now as we know a fairly medium nice power nowadays. A well sorted review & always enjoy looking at another collectable porsche.
Thanks for watching!
I owned a 1996 993 Turbo in speedyellow It had the 3.8 conversion 600 hp 595 ft lbs torque @ 1 bar PSS9 suspension plus other tasteful upgrades
That sounds fun to drive!
Great vid! How can PCA have such a small channel? Mind boggling
Thanks for the support and be sure to share!
Because good taste is rare. And competence undervalued…
Good job Vu. Beautiful car with only 16k miles.
I purchased my 993tt in Memphis 12 years ago and drove it back to Boston. Got my first speeding ticket with it less than 24hrs later. These are solid and quick. The boost is intoxicating. Everytime I think about selling it I just drive it and that thought goes straight out of my head. Someone else mentioned the Golden Rod by Fister and they are right, best mod for 993's. No slop in the linkage with it installed. Mine at 115k miles does not rattle or creak and drives like a 38k mile car. Vu, I may have missed it but I don't think you mentioned the power assisted clutch, so easy to actuate. Everything about the car is "rock star". I would have given it 9.5, you would have too if you had a chance to run it up the scale 🙂
Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the drive!
I will never not love the 993 and this is such a great example. Thanks for the review…it did nothing to diminish my desire for a 993 TT.
So a green 993 Turbo would be a great bridge between your two current cars ;)
an 8, an 8? she's a 10 I'll tell ya! Look at those hips, look at the way she sings, the way she moves, the way she grooves! I think some rock star sang a song about this 911, 😂.
A 10 is a tough score to earn. I must find this song, lol
You lucky son of a gun... I would give a kidney to drive one of these for a day. Who needs a kidney?
Lucky indeed!
You have a great presentation style, Vu. Easy to listen to. Really enjoying these videos.
I’m in a 991.1 TT Cab but would really love to sample one of these 993 TT someday just to get the air cooled experience. Could never justify owning one due to $, but love the videos and keep them coming.
This was such an informative review on an amazing car. I love the ideas of these 1 mile reviews and think this format works great in its slightly longer form.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the feedback as well.
Great review!
Probably as close as I’ll get to driving one of my dream cars.
I really enjoyed this 1 mile review! Infact, I think Vu did as well. So much so that, I’d like to check that odometer from the time he got into the car, until the time he got out. Have a feeling it was a bit more than a mile 😄 Great job Vu!
Thanks! Yes, a bit longer of a drive.
Wonderful! Great review ! You guys are the best. PCA is and was always my favorite club. I still dream of owning a 911, never know.
Keep the dream alive!
Be still my heart! The first Porsche I ever rode in was a 930 Turbo at the age of 15. I was HOOKED from the get go. I really love the turbo cars and this was a great review. Keep up the good work
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These cars now go for $230-250K, Turbo S goes for $350-450K.
I remember when a buddy bought a nice red one for $60k and I thought that was ALL the money!
Love the new one mile review.Great job Vu.
Thank you for watching!
Keep up the great work on these One-Mile Review videos and I sure love to see you guys reviewing the classic Porsche 911s. You have an open invitation to do a One-Mile review video with my modified 997.1 GT2 next time you're in the Pacific Northwest.
Thank you for the offer and your support of the channel!
Great video of a beautiful car! 👍
buy it, Vu!
Just need to find that money tree!!
I owned an Arena Red 993 Turbo for over ten years and just sold it last year - and agree with almost all of your comments. One issue is the value of the model has risen (and they are so milage sensitive) so much that DD is pretty well out of the question. There really is no turbo lag, the power is linear and the car does go like stink. So why did I sell? A few reasons 1 - the value climbed so high that I noticed I was not driving it much due to risk 2- I had 993’s for almost 20 years and it was time to try other cars in the Porsche lineup, god forbid I was getting bored of it lol. 3 - Fuel consumption - these cars are THIRSTY - like 12 mpg in the city, so running costs were quite expensive. 4 - Rising maintenance costs, although I do all my own work, including engine builds so that was mitigated somewhat, but parts have skyrocketed
So what did I get to replace it? A mint Cobalt Blue 997.1 GT3 with 11K miles, Euro Spec, and I pocketed pretty well what I paid for the 993 Turbo in the process. Regrets? NONE - I enjoyed the Turbo, great car, but it was time to move on and have someone else enjoy the car, and the GT3 is just on at another level.
Great review and nice work!
Nice post Mike. My wife & I still have our Guards Red ‘91 964 Turbo going on 20 yrs. We also decided to get into a 997.2 GT3 in Aqua Blue, & LOVE IT. But we decided to keep the 964 Turbo given all our family memories in it, even tho, as you said, the values are crazy enticing. #GoBlue997GT3’s!!
You lucky dog 👍👍
Agree with you Mike especially point #2. I had a 1997 993tt in White. I had it for 10 years and never really loved it. For me the basic suspension was just too mushy and I am not a fan of 4wd in a sports car. I suppose I should have gone to PSS10s but instead put it up for sale and sold it in about 8 hours. No real regrets.
Beautiful car, great review. That was definitely more than one mile ;)
Just a tad bit more, lol
I just love the 993 Turbo looks amazing in Polar Silver!
true!
Today this car is worth about $300k. I would not sell my C4s for less than $220k and I don't even use it. I just love looking at it and touching it.
That’s the only problem with these cars …. They own you.
Nice review. Love the 993 turbo. I think you shift too soon. Gotta wind it out a bit.
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately the streets we drove didn't really allow us to be able to really open it up.
Nice review Vu, love the car. One question, has the owner had PPF or Ceramic added to this turbo? Watching the video, I cringed every time I saw a big truck near by.
It has both ppf and ceramic.
Did you beat Damon in "rock, paper, scissors" to get to do this one-mile-review?
He offered and I didn't hesitate!
Good review Vu. I have a '97 C4S, and, except for the obvious power difference, many similarities.
The shift throws are long and rubbery, as you state, a common complaint. Darin Fister and Jeff Gamroth offer corrections, the Golden Rod(GR) and short shift kit(ssk). FD Motorsports' GR is a must for most 993-owners, and improves things. The ssk helps, but not dramatically- I have both. Surprised the owner(s) of this car did not add the GR, or both?
I argue that supple leather, not on this car, while not the favorite of all, is very comfortable and (was) fashionable- still is, in my view.
The car you drove has other obvious factory options: onboard computer, rear wiper, dual exhaust tips, these being standard on the Turbo S.
Floor-mounted pedals definitely are different from most manuals. Such does not enable stretching feet under the pedals on long drives. I'm 6'4".
Referencing your 996, many 993-owners are not fans of 4-spoke steering wheels and swap for the 3-spoke, like in your 996.
The overall smaller size and shapeliness when parked next to a 992, for example, are dramatic.
Too bad you drove the car only in the city and in traffic, not having opportunity to open it up..!
Fred
Thanks for sharing Fred!
Another excellent video. I’ll have to stick with my stock Amazon green 964. But I really enjoy all the videos you produce. A question: I have a little rust along the lower edge of the windshield. Maybe a fourth of an inch. It is shame to have to probably replace the original windshield after the body work?
Hey Greg, yes there is certainly a high probability they guy removing it will break it. We took a rock to our original Sigla Pilkington windshield on our 964 Turbo back in 2018. When the guy replaced it with a OEM Pilkington, he did fully break the original. I would not take that chance if I were you. Better off seeing if a good body guy could attend to the rust spot without disturbing the windshield. The hard part is that the rubber seal surrounds the windshield perimeter, so they will not be able to remove that to do the rust repair. They would only be able to prop it up on each side of the rust & work from there.
Find a good bodyshop that is familiar with a 964 windshield. We recently had the same exact rust repair done on Projekt 964 and they were able to remove the windshield without breaking it.
The 993 Turbo with the stock turbo chargers starts delivering significant boost from around 2,500 rpm. In any gear at any speed, even with low rpm in a high gear, all you need to do is plant your foot on the accelerator and enjoy the short moment in anticipation before that intoxicating swooooosh firmly comes on. Even today, with slightly enhanced Motronic, but stock turbochargers almost no one will overtake you, even on some low traffic stretches of German autobahns, if you don’t want. I always take the long way home.
Yup. He kept the revs below the powerband peak and short shifted. Was in 3rd and not even at50 mph. Let that puppy breathe and rev. Then you will feel the turbos and the lag.
13:23 "can't feel the turbo lag" ... because it is in the next 2-3 thousand rpm you aren't using putting around.
We did get it up to redline and still didn't feel a massive turbo kick in, hence our surprise. It was very linear.
Like the standard partial leather seat much more than the supple look. Also, get and install the Immoblock that will eliminate the need for depressing the button prior to starting.
Full leather was standard on the '97 TT
@@richardscales9379thanks for that! I was most focused on the standard seat vs. supple.
im going to look into that immoblock for sure!
I've owned multiple 911 generations through the years including Turbo variants, as well as 2 928's, 2 944's, a Boxster, etc... but I'll never understand why people claim that 911 doors sound "vault like" upon closing. The only model Porsche or car for that matter that's truly sounded vault like to me has been the 944, with the 928 coming in at a close 2nd. Beautiful 993TT BTW!
Meaning the car is just super solid. Thanks for watching!
Great review, you picked the right roads!👍
Car show: 10 😃
Daily driver: 7 (kinda too valuable to daily) 🤑
Road trip: 3 (perhaps more fuel efficient and reliable than its competitors like C5 Z06 and Ferrari 355, but still 12mpg is low) 😆
Fun factor: 10 (never driven one, but it looks like fun!) 😎👌
Average: 7.5 - I'll take it!!! 😁👌
Thanks for sharing!
Still my favorite turbo Porsche.
Great choice!
I own a 95 C2 , A 993 is My Car For life.
We can understand!
literally my dream car. i will get one some day
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This is the counter part of David lee
Dude is A menace to society blowing numerous red lights at intersections. Total disregard for public safety.
Stop wiggling the shifter, you’re not standing at a urinal.
I’ve over 40 yrs driving and maintaining my Porsches.
Thankfully you didn’t make the fatal error sticking your hand through the steering wheel for turns which will break your wrist if the wheel kicks back.
Nah, 993 Turbos in mint condition, can be found in Austin Texas for around $130k
i think car and driver got 3.7 to 60 on a cabriolet no less. 4.4 is very conservative, basically the opposite of Tesla.
I hear it has a long shift throw.... 14 times
LOL, thanks for counting!
Long shift throw… Is that why you push it in and out of 1st gear about 3-5 times every stop?!?!?!? Respect it and give it a rest.
Nothing new from you! You know very little. Always in the left lane 😂
Please share if you have more facts!